Jack Cork: I didn't make the most of my chance

Jack Cork

Jack Cork

First published in Saints News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

A disappointed Jack Cork admitted he did not feel as if he had grasped his opportunity in the Saints team last night.

The midfielder made his longest Premier League appearance of the season, as he played the entire second half of the 3-2 defeat against Aston Villa.

With Morgan Schneiderlin sidelined because of a groin problem, and Victor Wanyama taken off injured at the interval, Cork was afforded a rare opportunity to prove himself.

However, the 24-year-old, who gave the ball away in the build-up to Villa’s second goal, was honest in his assessment of whether he felt he had taken his chance.

“Not really,” he said. “Morgan’s only out for a week or so. I just tried to do well, and I’m not sure how well I did. I’ll just have a think about it tonight and tomorrow.”

Cork confessed his frustration at being dispossessed by Karim El Ahmadi ahead of Villa’s second goal, admitting he was not at his sharpest.

“It was just a bit of rustiness from me,” he said. “I sort of won the ball off him and then he sort of muscled his way through and got the cross in, so obviously I’m disappointed.”

It has been a difficult season for Cork, who has had to adjust to the role of being a fringe player, something that is in stark contrast to the previous two seasons, when he was such an integral part of the team.

When asked about his plans for the future, he said: “Obviously, I’ve been thinking about what part I’m going to play in this squad. I haven’t played that much, so it’s going to cross anyone’s head to think ‘what use am I going to be in the squad?’ “I’ll see what happens in the next couple of weeks and see if he (Mauricio Pochettino) uses me. I’m always happy to be part of the squad and play whenever I’m trusted.”

Cork also revealed that he had not been given any real indication from Pochettino about what his plans for the midfielder are.

“Nothing much. I haven’t really spoken to him much this season,” he said. “We’ll have to review tomorrow and see what happens from there; see what players are fit and if I will be any use in the coming weeks.”

Cork felt that Saints, who enjoyed more possession and chances than Villa, should have earned at least a point.

“It was a bit end to end, they had a few chances, we had a lot of chances, and it turned out to be a bit scrappy in the end,” he said.

“For the way we played at times we maybe should have nicked it, but it’s football. We’ve been on a good run, and sometimes you have to weather a storm.”

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6:14am Thu 5 Dec 13

Mr. Miyagi says...

You are right Jack, you didn't make the most of your chance. However, I would be more worried if I was Yoshida. He should not be given another chance in the team if both Fonte and Lovren are fit, and possibly fourth choice behind Hoovield. Last night exposed the lack of depth in the squad beyond the first 11. We all know who the strongest 11 are. I am not sure why MoPo felt he needed to tinker with the back line. He said it all in the post match interview. Villa, 4 chances, 3 goals = defensive issues. Saints, 21 chances, 2 goals = striking issues. Where to strengthen in January??
You are right Jack, you didn't make the most of your chance. However, I would be more worried if I was Yoshida. He should not be given another chance in the team if both Fonte and Lovren are fit, and possibly fourth choice behind Hoovield. Last night exposed the lack of depth in the squad beyond the first 11. We all know who the strongest 11 are. I am not sure why MoPo felt he needed to tinker with the back line. He said it all in the post match interview. Villa, 4 chances, 3 goals = defensive issues. Saints, 21 chances, 2 goals = striking issues. Where to strengthen in January?? Mr. Miyagi
  • Score: 13

7:35am Thu 5 Dec 13

SaintinCanada says...

Jack - you came back into the team last season when we were hot favorites for relegation, and look what happened. It's not just the XI on the pitch but the whole squad....glad you were there for the team. Everybody has an off night, and you weren't the only one.
Jack - you came back into the team last season when we were hot favorites for relegation, and look what happened. It's not just the XI on the pitch but the whole squad....glad you were there for the team. Everybody has an off night, and you weren't the only one. SaintinCanada
  • Score: 35

7:45am Thu 5 Dec 13

Southampton boy says...

Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly Southampton boy
  • Score: -12

8:25am Thu 5 Dec 13

bobbeale53 says...

To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much.

You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against.

Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem.

Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities.

I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run.

Can't wait
To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much. You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against. Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem. Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities. I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run. Can't wait bobbeale53
  • Score: 18

8:34am Thu 5 Dec 13

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

NEED A TOP TOP KEEPER ... otherwise we are in for more disappointing results.

Kelvin is past his sell by date and Gazza is not at this level.

Having 2 TOP Keepers (Artur +1) makes sense.

COYR
NEED A TOP TOP KEEPER ... otherwise we are in for more disappointing results. Kelvin is past his sell by date and Gazza is not at this level. Having 2 TOP Keepers (Artur +1) makes sense. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 8

8:59am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Southampton boy wrote:
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success.
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly[/p][/quote]No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 17

9:35am Thu 5 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success.
I thought Cork had a good game . The second goal was not his fault , it was Dejan's poor clearance and Cork was left trying to clean up from that. The whole side actually played quite well with the exception of central defence. They were responsible for the goals. We were by far the better side. When Benteke came on they reverted to Wet Spam type hoofball tactics. Just a bad and unlucky day. Sh1t happens. I think Artur may wel have done better but we will never know if that is the case or nort. Move on.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly[/p][/quote]No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success.[/p][/quote]I thought Cork had a good game . The second goal was not his fault , it was Dejan's poor clearance and Cork was left trying to clean up from that. The whole side actually played quite well with the exception of central defence. They were responsible for the goals. We were by far the better side. When Benteke came on they reverted to Wet Spam type hoofball tactics. Just a bad and unlucky day. Sh1t happens. I think Artur may wel have done better but we will never know if that is the case or nort. Move on. Clever Dick
  • Score: 19

9:57am Thu 5 Dec 13

redsnapper says...

bobbeale53 wrote:
To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much.

You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against.

Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem.

Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities.

I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run.

Can't wait
Agreed, the well oiled machine with the same 11 give or take S Davis, was working well, but then along come 2 wicked injuries to Morgan and Artur and the balance is disrupted.. and beats me why there are suddenly 3 Prem Games in 6 days in DECEMBER when pitches are cold, greasy and injuries happen,

Probably specially requested by the big clubs with their huge squads to give them an unfair advantage into the Xmas run in.
Bu as the report says 2 mistakes by Yoshi and Cork..game lost.
[quote][p][bold]bobbeale53[/bold] wrote: To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much. You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against. Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem. Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities. I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run. Can't wait[/p][/quote]Agreed, the well oiled machine with the same 11 give or take S Davis, was working well, but then along come 2 wicked injuries to Morgan and Artur and the balance is disrupted.. and beats me why there are suddenly 3 Prem Games in 6 days in DECEMBER when pitches are cold, greasy and injuries happen, Probably specially requested by the big clubs with their huge squads to give them an unfair advantage into the Xmas run in. Bu as the report says 2 mistakes by Yoshi and Cork..game lost. redsnapper
  • Score: 2

10:00am Thu 5 Dec 13

alan.of.eastleigh says...

I think Jack is being too hard on himself. Yes, he did give the ball away but that aside looked one of the best players on the pitch second half
I think Jack is being too hard on himself. Yes, he did give the ball away but that aside looked one of the best players on the pitch second half alan.of.eastleigh
  • Score: 16

10:12am Thu 5 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?
People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 13

10:18am Thu 5 Dec 13

Sherborne Saint says...

Didn't NC once say something like this in the 'I'm nice guy really' Sky Sports News interview a few days after NA got sacked ' I will remove the manger before we lose five games in a row'
Didn't NC once say something like this in the 'I'm nice guy really' Sky Sports News interview a few days after NA got sacked ' I will [sic] remove the manger before we lose five games in a row' Sherborne Saint
  • Score: -2

10:31am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success.
I thought Cork had a good game . The second goal was not his fault , it was Dejan's poor clearance and Cork was left trying to clean up from that. The whole side actually played quite well with the exception of central defence. They were responsible for the goals. We were by far the better side. When Benteke came on they reverted to Wet Spam type hoofball tactics. Just a bad and unlucky day. Sh1t happens. I think Artur may wel have done better but we will never know if that is the case or nort. Move on.
I absolutely agree with you, when their 2nd goal went in I had texted that Dejan had been sloppy, then Corky appeared to be blamed, 50/50 at most. We were quick to criticise Maya selection, but it was explained that Jose had a minor knock and I guess they wanted to keep him out ready for Saturday, Maya is obviously ring rusty, no amount of double training can keep you match fit, same goes for Corky, they need more pitch time. On the positive side, our 2nd goal showed promise, if Lambo and Oz can get on the same wavelength like that we will see an improvement in the goals for section IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly[/p][/quote]No mate you are not sorry at all, you are chuffed to bits as you appear to have been justified in your predictions, you have been posting so many negative posts that the disease is catching on and is beginning to affect other posters, I get slagged for pointing it out, until we all get behind the team with positive messages we won't deserve any success.[/p][/quote]I thought Cork had a good game . The second goal was not his fault , it was Dejan's poor clearance and Cork was left trying to clean up from that. The whole side actually played quite well with the exception of central defence. They were responsible for the goals. We were by far the better side. When Benteke came on they reverted to Wet Spam type hoofball tactics. Just a bad and unlucky day. Sh1t happens. I think Artur may wel have done better but we will never know if that is the case or nort. Move on.[/p][/quote]I absolutely agree with you, when their 2nd goal went in I had texted that Dejan had been sloppy, then Corky appeared to be blamed, 50/50 at most. We were quick to criticise Maya selection, but it was explained that Jose had a minor knock and I guess they wanted to keep him out ready for Saturday, Maya is obviously ring rusty, no amount of double training can keep you match fit, same goes for Corky, they need more pitch time. On the positive side, our 2nd goal showed promise, if Lambo and Oz can get on the same wavelength like that we will see an improvement in the goals for section IMO. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 7

10:46am Thu 5 Dec 13

Puddletown Saint says...

Our expectations are so very high

We have now found our level 7-10 We are going to have some wonderful days (starting with Citeh on Saturday) and some more Villa days!!!

Teams have found us out - s we must have a plan B and C - Rather liked the 3-4-3 at the end last night :)

Come on Saints fans - think back 3 years COYR
Our expectations are so very high We have now found our level 7-10 We are going to have some wonderful days (starting with Citeh on Saturday) and some more Villa days!!! Teams have found us out - s we must have a plan B and C - Rather liked the 3-4-3 at the end last night :) Come on Saints fans - think back 3 years COYR Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 12

10:48am Thu 5 Dec 13

Saintsayer II says...

I thought JC did Ok There were a few others who looked knackered right from the first whistle

Why did he change a centre half pairing on top of an enforced keeper chang Baffled me
I thought JC did Ok There were a few others who looked knackered right from the first whistle Why did he change a centre half pairing on top of an enforced keeper chang Baffled me Saintsayer II
  • Score: 0

10:52am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

redsnapper wrote:
bobbeale53 wrote:
To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much.

You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against.

Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem.

Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities.

I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run.

Can't wait
Agreed, the well oiled machine with the same 11 give or take S Davis, was working well, but then along come 2 wicked injuries to Morgan and Artur and the balance is disrupted.. and beats me why there are suddenly 3 Prem Games in 6 days in DECEMBER when pitches are cold, greasy and injuries happen,

Probably specially requested by the big clubs with their huge squads to give them an unfair advantage into the Xmas run in.
Bu as the report says 2 mistakes by Yoshi and Cork..game lost.
That is a good point you made about these games, we were on a serious roll until the International breaks, they have completely disrupted our flow, add the injuries sustained and we are in trouble, through no real fault of our own. I have enjoyed the good times but it makes you feel so much worse when it goes base over apex, hopefully we will turn it around, I am not too keen on panic buying in January, but a couple of half decent picks would boost the morale a little and a promising GK would be nice, know any?
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbeale53[/bold] wrote: To epect someone to come in and fit perfecty in agame like this is a bit much. You have a player who has been a major part of this team for 2 years who now getshis chance to shine. Unfortunately we had lost the last 2 games and now he comes into a ame where we are expeced to win handsomely. He wants to impress but makes a dumb mistake and it leads to a goal against. Don't villafy him.A couple of games and we know he will be shining and believe me, we need him. There is still 2/3 of the season to go and we need players like Cork ad Yoshida It is lack of playing time that is causing the problem. Sticking with the same starting line up every game sounds great but we are now looking at injuries. supensions looming and our backups are rusty. They need a couple of starting opportunities. I don't expect anything from the City game but after that with everyone up to speed I think we start another run. Can't wait[/p][/quote]Agreed, the well oiled machine with the same 11 give or take S Davis, was working well, but then along come 2 wicked injuries to Morgan and Artur and the balance is disrupted.. and beats me why there are suddenly 3 Prem Games in 6 days in DECEMBER when pitches are cold, greasy and injuries happen, Probably specially requested by the big clubs with their huge squads to give them an unfair advantage into the Xmas run in. Bu as the report says 2 mistakes by Yoshi and Cork..game lost.[/p][/quote]That is a good point you made about these games, we were on a serious roll until the International breaks, they have completely disrupted our flow, add the injuries sustained and we are in trouble, through no real fault of our own. I have enjoyed the good times but it makes you feel so much worse when it goes base over apex, hopefully we will turn it around, I am not too keen on panic buying in January, but a couple of half decent picks would boost the morale a little and a promising GK would be nice, know any? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:01am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
I thought JC did Ok There were a few others who looked knackered right from the first whistle

Why did he change a centre half pairing on top of an enforced keeper chang Baffled me
Note my 10:31 post about Fonte.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: I thought JC did Ok There were a few others who looked knackered right from the first whistle Why did he change a centre half pairing on top of an enforced keeper chang Baffled me[/p][/quote]Note my 10:31 post about Fonte. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:04am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sherborne Saint wrote:
Didn't NC once say something like this in the 'I'm nice guy really' Sky Sports News interview a few days after NA got sacked ' I will remove the manger before we lose five games in a row'
Away with the manger? Well it is Christmas.
[quote][p][bold]Sherborne Saint[/bold] wrote: Didn't NC once say something like this in the 'I'm nice guy really' Sky Sports News interview a few days after NA got sacked ' I will [sic] remove the manger before we lose five games in a row'[/p][/quote]Away with the manger? Well it is Christmas. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:18am Thu 5 Dec 13

sledgerite says...

why are some blaming the keeper he had no chancethe centre backs were 100% culpable for this defeat,lovren and yoshida were the worst players on the pitch just shows how much protection they have been given by victor and morgan,they need to step up and do there jobs becase in the main weve played well
why are some blaming the keeper he had no chancethe centre backs were 100% culpable for this defeat,lovren and yoshida were the worst players on the pitch just shows how much protection they have been given by victor and morgan,they need to step up and do there jobs becase in the main weve played well sledgerite
  • Score: 10

11:53am Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?
I guess you need more with Hoovers attitude, he knows he won't be first pick because he isn't as good as Lovren, but he knows that he can put in a good shift if asked, most talented players either want to be first pick or will want yto go elsewhere where they would be selected, not easy to be playing second fiddle, on the other hand they should be waiting to get a chance and then play well enough to keep the other fellow out, there is a very thin margin of error here. Lack of game time is an obvious drawback, it takes a few games to get up to speed. If we can get back to a fully fit first XI we could beat any team, anywhen, anywhere.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?[/p][/quote]I guess you need more with Hoovers attitude, he knows he won't be first pick because he isn't as good as Lovren, but he knows that he can put in a good shift if asked, most talented players either want to be first pick or will want yto go elsewhere where they would be selected, not easy to be playing second fiddle, on the other hand they should be waiting to get a chance and then play well enough to keep the other fellow out, there is a very thin margin of error here. Lack of game time is an obvious drawback, it takes a few games to get up to speed. If we can get back to a fully fit first XI we could beat any team, anywhen, anywhere. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:55am Thu 5 Dec 13

miltonnroad76 says...

Really dont agree with this 'been found out' stuff the statistics say otherwise 21 shots..massive possession..passes if it was the case Villa would have dominated the game..they hit us on the break with superb goals..it happens but this has happened at worst time really needed 3 points yesterday coz all decembers games look very very hard especailly now key players are injured....dreading team news against city if no wanayama schneiderlin clyne we will do well to avoid a thrashing....didnt see the goals cant say if Gazza to blame but he aint no Boruc with his wonder saves...
Really dont agree with this 'been found out' stuff the statistics say otherwise 21 shots..massive possession..passes if it was the case Villa would have dominated the game..they hit us on the break with superb goals..it happens but this has happened at worst time really needed 3 points yesterday coz all decembers games look very very hard especailly now key players are injured....dreading team news against city if no wanayama schneiderlin clyne we will do well to avoid a thrashing....didnt see the goals cant say if Gazza to blame but he aint no Boruc with his wonder saves... miltonnroad76
  • Score: 3

12:30pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

sledgerite wrote:
why are some blaming the keeper he had no chancethe centre backs were 100% culpable for this defeat,lovren and yoshida were the worst players on the pitch just shows how much protection they have been given by victor and morgan,they need to step up and do there jobs becase in the main weve played well
I don't think anyone's blaming Gazza. What is being said is that he didn't make a claim to become first choice keeper.
[quote][p][bold]sledgerite[/bold] wrote: why are some blaming the keeper he had no chancethe centre backs were 100% culpable for this defeat,lovren and yoshida were the worst players on the pitch just shows how much protection they have been given by victor and morgan,they need to step up and do there jobs becase in the main weve played well[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone's blaming Gazza. What is being said is that he didn't make a claim to become first choice keeper. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Thu 5 Dec 13

swesaint says...

Southampton boy wrote:
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
How did he not get a fingertip on the second goal?
[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly[/p][/quote]How did he not get a fingertip on the second goal? swesaint
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Thu 5 Dec 13

THE12THMAN says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?
You have to pay them vast amounts of money and be in the champions league or eufa cup so they the chance to play when players are rested.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?[/p][/quote]You have to pay them vast amounts of money and be in the champions league or eufa cup so they the chance to play when players are rested. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

12:35pm Thu 5 Dec 13

donni1437 says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
Really dont agree with this 'been found out' stuff the statistics say otherwise 21 shots..massive possession..passes if it was the case Villa would have dominated the game..they hit us on the break with superb goals..it happens but this has happened at worst time really needed 3 points yesterday coz all decembers games look very very hard especailly now key players are injured....dreading team news against city if no wanayama schneiderlin clyne we will do well to avoid a thrashing....didnt see the goals cant say if Gazza to blame but he aint no Boruc with his wonder saves...
I agree that we haven't been found out at all. I just think the amazing start we have had has got some fans thinking we're a champions league team in the making and expect us to keep this run going.

In the last three games have we been torn apart at any stage? I would say only a 10-15 minute spell against Chelsea when they really put us under the pump and that's it. We're still playing decent football and played some lovely stuff last night.

Villa played to their strengths, finished well and did the 'smash and grab' job perfectly . Replay the game last night and 9 times out of 10 we get something from it.

2 Chelsea season ticket holders I know were raving about how we played at their place so please remember this is work in progress and the players are gaining valuable experience at this level. We need to strengthen in areas but this might take time.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: Really dont agree with this 'been found out' stuff the statistics say otherwise 21 shots..massive possession..passes if it was the case Villa would have dominated the game..they hit us on the break with superb goals..it happens but this has happened at worst time really needed 3 points yesterday coz all decembers games look very very hard especailly now key players are injured....dreading team news against city if no wanayama schneiderlin clyne we will do well to avoid a thrashing....didnt see the goals cant say if Gazza to blame but he aint no Boruc with his wonder saves...[/p][/quote]I agree that we haven't been found out at all. I just think the amazing start we have had has got some fans thinking we're a champions league team in the making and expect us to keep this run going. In the last three games have we been torn apart at any stage? I would say only a 10-15 minute spell against Chelsea when they really put us under the pump and that's it. We're still playing decent football and played some lovely stuff last night. Villa played to their strengths, finished well and did the 'smash and grab' job perfectly . Replay the game last night and 9 times out of 10 we get something from it. 2 Chelsea season ticket holders I know were raving about how we played at their place so please remember this is work in progress and the players are gaining valuable experience at this level. We need to strengthen in areas but this might take time. donni1437
  • Score: 10

12:37pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?
I guess you need more with Hoovers attitude, he knows he won't be first pick because he isn't as good as Lovren, but he knows that he can put in a good shift if asked, most talented players either want to be first pick or will want yto go elsewhere where they would be selected, not easy to be playing second fiddle, on the other hand they should be waiting to get a chance and then play well enough to keep the other fellow out, there is a very thin margin of error here. Lack of game time is an obvious drawback, it takes a few games to get up to speed. If we can get back to a fully fit first XI we could beat any team, anywhen, anywhere.
That's my point. Jack is a better player than the Hoover so would be more inclined to consider his options whereas Jos is happy getting a few games and coming off the bench knowing that to get regular football he would need to leave the Prem. If we want to be able to replace players when injured, suspended or out of form with players of such quality the team doesn't miss a beat then they have to be happy with being on the bench at times and we have to rotate to keep everyone happy. We have decided on our 12 so the others have got rusty.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: People say we need greater strength in depth but if you read the article Cork is considering his position due to lack of games and Poch isn't communicating with him. How do you get quality players to sit on the bench?[/p][/quote]I guess you need more with Hoovers attitude, he knows he won't be first pick because he isn't as good as Lovren, but he knows that he can put in a good shift if asked, most talented players either want to be first pick or will want yto go elsewhere where they would be selected, not easy to be playing second fiddle, on the other hand they should be waiting to get a chance and then play well enough to keep the other fellow out, there is a very thin margin of error here. Lack of game time is an obvious drawback, it takes a few games to get up to speed. If we can get back to a fully fit first XI we could beat any team, anywhen, anywhere.[/p][/quote]That's my point. Jack is a better player than the Hoover so would be more inclined to consider his options whereas Jos is happy getting a few games and coming off the bench knowing that to get regular football he would need to leave the Prem. If we want to be able to replace players when injured, suspended or out of form with players of such quality the team doesn't miss a beat then they have to be happy with being on the bench at times and we have to rotate to keep everyone happy. We have decided on our 12 so the others have got rusty. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

12:57pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Egomaniac says...

I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click.

Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway.

Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play.

Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far.

MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed.

So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please.

Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?!
I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click. Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway. Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play. Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far. MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed. So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please. Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?! Egomaniac
  • Score: 5

1:08pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Confucious says...

It's hard to know who to believe. All those who 21 days ago were over the moon about our superb play and tactics and our sure-fire top four prospects - or the doomsters who have now appeared to say we've had it without drastic changes.

Perhaps the truth is - and always was - somewhere in between.

I'll be satisfied with more steady progress this season - and that means mid table.

Of course last night was hugely disappointing and frustrating and this is a difficult moment. But when does the club and players most need fans to be supportive and positive - when things are going swimmingly as they did for three whole months or when things are difficult as they have been for just three weeks?
It's hard to know who to believe. All those who 21 days ago were over the moon about our superb play and tactics and our sure-fire top four prospects - or the doomsters who have now appeared to say we've had it without drastic changes. Perhaps the truth is - and always was - somewhere in between. I'll be satisfied with more steady progress this season - and that means mid table. Of course last night was hugely disappointing and frustrating and this is a difficult moment. But when does the club and players most need fans to be supportive and positive - when things are going swimmingly as they did for three whole months or when things are difficult as they have been for just three weeks? Confucious
  • Score: 16

1:29pm Thu 5 Dec 13

moley_46@yahoo.co.uk says...

It is unfair to blame cork for the second goal and not give him credit for all the good things he did do. Cork has had to go from a major player to a fringe player through no fault of his own, if I had my way I would use cork over victor. Player put on the bench for month and then asked to go into a premiership game are going to struggle.

Sadly saints are starting to go down the route that football clubs take, which is all the players who brought our clubs back from the brink and want to play for us are forgotten and move on and we are left with overpaid players who if you take the money away will leave in a heart beat like osvaldo and Ramirez. This is also shown by the manager who puts osvaldo in place of lambert for no good reason and puts victor in for cork who was the back bone of the team last year.

A good question is after bring in players like osvaldo and Ramirez for stupid money with no real benefit to the squad. Who in January should be buy it?.
It is unfair to blame cork for the second goal and not give him credit for all the good things he did do. Cork has had to go from a major player to a fringe player through no fault of his own, if I had my way I would use cork over victor. Player put on the bench for month and then asked to go into a premiership game are going to struggle. Sadly saints are starting to go down the route that football clubs take, which is all the players who brought our clubs back from the brink and want to play for us are forgotten and move on and we are left with overpaid players who if you take the money away will leave in a heart beat like osvaldo and Ramirez. This is also shown by the manager who puts osvaldo in place of lambert for no good reason and puts victor in for cork who was the back bone of the team last year. A good question is after bring in players like osvaldo and Ramirez for stupid money with no real benefit to the squad. Who in January should be buy it?. moley_46@yahoo.co.uk
  • Score: -1

1:48pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Costa Baz says...

swesaint wrote:
Southampton boy wrote:
Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office.
But with that said I don't feel we played that badly
How did he not get a fingertip on the second goal?
Gazza did get a touch on the ball, for Villa's second, but if you are suggesting that he should have saved it, then your expectations for any keeper are extremely high.

He did well to get his hands near the ball, given that the perfect cross, hit with pace, was met flush on the forehead by Kozak, from about 6 or 7 yards out.

Gazzanigga wasn't at fault with any of the goals. End of.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say but no one made the most of there chances last night and as for PN the keeper he did not make one save they had 3 shots on target and he did not even get a finger tip to them. We need a keeper are front line needs something as osveldo even with him netting last does not seem to be the player I was expecting that 3 defeats now and over the next few weeks it's not going ypto get any easier bad night at the office. But with that said I don't feel we played that badly[/p][/quote]How did he not get a fingertip on the second goal?[/p][/quote]Gazza did get a touch on the ball, for Villa's second, but if you are suggesting that he should have saved it, then your expectations for any keeper are extremely high. He did well to get his hands near the ball, given that the perfect cross, hit with pace, was met flush on the forehead by Kozak, from about 6 or 7 yards out. Gazzanigga wasn't at fault with any of the goals. End of. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Thu 5 Dec 13

right back in the bar says...

My eyes fail me - I thought JC crossed for JRod's excellent header and he did a lot of other good stuff. He got mugged but so did the whole team. JC's quotes worry me as it seems he has almost given up on SFC and he is a good payer and top bloke and the sort we need at the club. As for all the comments on here blaming individual players... leave it out - we played well enough to win the game but Villa picked our pockets. We will play much worse than that and win games... its football.
My eyes fail me - I thought JC crossed for JRod's excellent header and he did a lot of other good stuff. He got mugged but so did the whole team. JC's quotes worry me as it seems he has almost given up on SFC and he is a good payer and top bloke and the sort we need at the club. As for all the comments on here blaming individual players... leave it out - we played well enough to win the game but Villa picked our pockets. We will play much worse than that and win games... its football. right back in the bar
  • Score: 5

2:13pm Thu 5 Dec 13

hedge end bob says...

My thoughts for last night, Jack Cork 8 out of ten. I thought Jack tried to get the ball forward a lot fasters than the other midfield players. Yoshida 3 out of ten. His mistake for the first goal was school boy football at the highest level, he watched the man instead of the ball . I thought Dejan looked nervous playing along side Toshy and this IMO led to his 5 out of ten performance. The two full backs put in their usual performances and looked solid.
OK it looks good on paper when you read 70 odd per cent possesion but it means very little when the other team scores 3 goals when they have hardly had the ball. Am i the only poster that thinks we labour on the ball and our forward play is no way fast enough. We always seem to take three or four extra passes trying to get to the other teams penalty box and when we get there no one will take a shot. A good example of what i am trying too say was, their 3rd goal.
I hope i am not sounding negative and i always give 100% support when i am at the game . I still think we will finish in the top ten this season and we only need another 7 wins and we will not be relegated. Last night was a reality shock for those that think we can finish top four, what it showed me was we need too really think where the team needs improving to get us up to that level.
We didn't drop from the premeirship to league 1 in three seasons and it will take a few more for us to be a top four premiership side. They came with a game plan which i feel we went a long way making it work very well for them.
COYR'S back to winning ways on Saturday
My thoughts for last night, Jack Cork 8 out of ten. I thought Jack tried to get the ball forward a lot fasters than the other midfield players. Yoshida 3 out of ten. His mistake for the first goal was school boy football at the highest level, he watched the man instead of the ball . I thought Dejan looked nervous playing along side Toshy and this IMO led to his 5 out of ten performance. The two full backs put in their usual performances and looked solid. OK it looks good on paper when you read 70 odd per cent possesion but it means very little when the other team scores 3 goals when they have hardly had the ball. Am i the only poster that thinks we labour on the ball and our forward play is no way fast enough. We always seem to take three or four extra passes trying to get to the other teams penalty box and when we get there no one will take a shot. A good example of what i am trying too say was, their 3rd goal. I hope i am not sounding negative and i always give 100% support when i am at the game . I still think we will finish in the top ten this season and we only need another 7 wins and we will not be relegated. Last night was a reality shock for those that think we can finish top four, what it showed me was we need too really think where the team needs improving to get us up to that level. We didn't drop from the premeirship to league 1 in three seasons and it will take a few more for us to be a top four premiership side. They came with a game plan which i feel we went a long way making it work very well for them. COYR'S back to winning ways on Saturday hedge end bob
  • Score: 5

2:34pm Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

right back in the bar wrote:
My eyes fail me - I thought JC crossed for JRod's excellent header and he did a lot of other good stuff. He got mugged but so did the whole team. JC's quotes worry me as it seems he has almost given up on SFC and he is a good payer and top bloke and the sort we need at the club. As for all the comments on here blaming individual players... leave it out - we played well enough to win the game but Villa picked our pockets. We will play much worse than that and win games... its football.
If you mean JRods goal, I think it was from Clynes cross.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: My eyes fail me - I thought JC crossed for JRod's excellent header and he did a lot of other good stuff. He got mugged but so did the whole team. JC's quotes worry me as it seems he has almost given up on SFC and he is a good payer and top bloke and the sort we need at the club. As for all the comments on here blaming individual players... leave it out - we played well enough to win the game but Villa picked our pockets. We will play much worse than that and win games... its football.[/p][/quote]If you mean JRods goal, I think it was from Clynes cross. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Thu 5 Dec 13

ghk230473 says...

Cork is a good player who can't count himself unlucky to have been out for so many games and not even making appearances as sub. Subs could possibly be used more, however I don't feel we have enough in back up to sustain a European spot let alone champions league one!
I'm still happy with start made and looking forward to a top ten finish. To move further takes time and money, ground capacity increase is needed.
Cork is a good player who can't count himself unlucky to have been out for so many games and not even making appearances as sub. Subs could possibly be used more, however I don't feel we have enough in back up to sustain a European spot let alone champions league one! I'm still happy with start made and looking forward to a top ten finish. To move further takes time and money, ground capacity increase is needed. ghk230473
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Well, it caused me a restless night. I bet I wasn't the only one who woke up in the early hours and couldn't get back to sleep wondering how on earth we had lost.

From what I saw, Jack played well, as did most of the others. While reflecting on the second goal and 'Jack's error', as I had labelled it last night, I remembered how he had made the initial interception and done the right thing in trying to play it down the line. Most of the time, any player managing to cut out a pass like Jack's will simply knock it out for a throw. Ahmedi got lucky, then pinged in a brilliant cross.

I have also reconsidered Yos's performance. From the little I could see of the first goal, he made a mistake. As Jack says of himself above, there was some rustiness. To the third goal. Remember Yos's first match - the 6-1 at Arsenal? He made a mistake there by rushing to get a tackle in on a Gooner (Gervinho, I think). He was lobbed and it resulted in a goal. Had the same thing happened yesterday, he'd certainly have been blamed. But, while I and probably all of us were calling on him to do just that, he stood back, probably waiting for the 'right' moment, not expecting a bullet like that.

As for Gazza, not a chance with any of them. It's far too early to write him off.

Dani? Getting better, and starting to fit. I don't think he's going anywhere. Meanwhile, with so many injuries and the need for flare, maybe Gaston will get a run next week.

In the last 3 matches, we've had constant disruption through injuries; especially to the defence. It started with Lovren, then Shaw, then Boruc, then Fonte (not 100% before yesterday's game), then Wanyama, then Clyne. Have I forgotten anyone? That, plus some early Christmas presents and a bit of class (Terry's header, the Ahmedi cross and Delph's strike) have made the difference. It's been a bad fortnight but we'll be okay; no need to be too gloomy.
Well, it caused me a restless night. I bet I wasn't the only one who woke up in the early hours and couldn't get back to sleep wondering how on earth we had lost. From what I saw, Jack played well, as did most of the others. While reflecting on the second goal and 'Jack's error', as I had labelled it last night, I remembered how he had made the initial interception and done the right thing in trying to play it down the line. Most of the time, any player managing to cut out a pass like Jack's will simply knock it out for a throw. Ahmedi got lucky, then pinged in a brilliant cross. I have also reconsidered Yos's performance. From the little I could see of the first goal, he made a mistake. As Jack says of himself above, there was some rustiness. To the third goal. Remember Yos's first match - the 6-1 at Arsenal? He made a mistake there by rushing to get a tackle in on a Gooner (Gervinho, I think). He was lobbed and it resulted in a goal. Had the same thing happened yesterday, he'd certainly have been blamed. But, while I and probably all of us were calling on him to do just that, he stood back, probably waiting for the 'right' moment, not expecting a bullet like that. As for Gazza, not a chance with any of them. It's far too early to write him off. Dani? Getting better, and starting to fit. I don't think he's going anywhere. Meanwhile, with so many injuries and the need for flare, maybe Gaston will get a run next week. In the last 3 matches, we've had constant disruption through injuries; especially to the defence. It started with Lovren, then Shaw, then Boruc, then Fonte (not 100% before yesterday's game), then Wanyama, then Clyne. Have I forgotten anyone? That, plus some early Christmas presents and a bit of class (Terry's header, the Ahmedi cross and Delph's strike) have made the difference. It's been a bad fortnight but we'll be okay; no need to be too gloomy. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

4:23pm Thu 5 Dec 13

right back in the bar says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Well, it caused me a restless night. I bet I wasn't the only one who woke up in the early hours and couldn't get back to sleep wondering how on earth we had lost.

From what I saw, Jack played well, as did most of the others. While reflecting on the second goal and 'Jack's error', as I had labelled it last night, I remembered how he had made the initial interception and done the right thing in trying to play it down the line. Most of the time, any player managing to cut out a pass like Jack's will simply knock it out for a throw. Ahmedi got lucky, then pinged in a brilliant cross.

I have also reconsidered Yos's performance. From the little I could see of the first goal, he made a mistake. As Jack says of himself above, there was some rustiness. To the third goal. Remember Yos's first match - the 6-1 at Arsenal? He made a mistake there by rushing to get a tackle in on a Gooner (Gervinho, I think). He was lobbed and it resulted in a goal. Had the same thing happened yesterday, he'd certainly have been blamed. But, while I and probably all of us were calling on him to do just that, he stood back, probably waiting for the 'right' moment, not expecting a bullet like that.

As for Gazza, not a chance with any of them. It's far too early to write him off.

Dani? Getting better, and starting to fit. I don't think he's going anywhere. Meanwhile, with so many injuries and the need for flare, maybe Gaston will get a run next week.

In the last 3 matches, we've had constant disruption through injuries; especially to the defence. It started with Lovren, then Shaw, then Boruc, then Fonte (not 100% before yesterday's game), then Wanyama, then Clyne. Have I forgotten anyone? That, plus some early Christmas presents and a bit of class (Terry's header, the Ahmedi cross and Delph's strike) have made the difference. It's been a bad fortnight but we'll be okay; no need to be too gloomy.
Good points - undone by two teams who at the moment, and on their day, are better than us; and a few brilliant moments from Villa (who lets not forget have mugged a few away from home by playing on the break this season). Bad luck that this has come all at once. Looking for a reaction on Saturday, MP should go with Osvaldo and Lambert together and get the midfield moving the ball quicker.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Well, it caused me a restless night. I bet I wasn't the only one who woke up in the early hours and couldn't get back to sleep wondering how on earth we had lost. From what I saw, Jack played well, as did most of the others. While reflecting on the second goal and 'Jack's error', as I had labelled it last night, I remembered how he had made the initial interception and done the right thing in trying to play it down the line. Most of the time, any player managing to cut out a pass like Jack's will simply knock it out for a throw. Ahmedi got lucky, then pinged in a brilliant cross. I have also reconsidered Yos's performance. From the little I could see of the first goal, he made a mistake. As Jack says of himself above, there was some rustiness. To the third goal. Remember Yos's first match - the 6-1 at Arsenal? He made a mistake there by rushing to get a tackle in on a Gooner (Gervinho, I think). He was lobbed and it resulted in a goal. Had the same thing happened yesterday, he'd certainly have been blamed. But, while I and probably all of us were calling on him to do just that, he stood back, probably waiting for the 'right' moment, not expecting a bullet like that. As for Gazza, not a chance with any of them. It's far too early to write him off. Dani? Getting better, and starting to fit. I don't think he's going anywhere. Meanwhile, with so many injuries and the need for flare, maybe Gaston will get a run next week. In the last 3 matches, we've had constant disruption through injuries; especially to the defence. It started with Lovren, then Shaw, then Boruc, then Fonte (not 100% before yesterday's game), then Wanyama, then Clyne. Have I forgotten anyone? That, plus some early Christmas presents and a bit of class (Terry's header, the Ahmedi cross and Delph's strike) have made the difference. It's been a bad fortnight but we'll be okay; no need to be too gloomy.[/p][/quote]Good points - undone by two teams who at the moment, and on their day, are better than us; and a few brilliant moments from Villa (who lets not forget have mugged a few away from home by playing on the break this season). Bad luck that this has come all at once. Looking for a reaction on Saturday, MP should go with Osvaldo and Lambert together and get the midfield moving the ball quicker. right back in the bar
  • Score: 1

4:26pm Thu 5 Dec 13

saintkenny says...

i think the the u 21 reserve league is the problem neither cork or maya could play in matches to get to a level the premier league demands neither of them looked match fit or up to the pace .we have 7 subs sat on there bums 4 might not get a match for weeks .then there drafted in to play how can they perform at premier league level .it wont happen in reality they need 3 games to get match therefore to blame them is a bit unfair ,the whole reserve set up is a problem to many players inactive then expected to perform the same as the team on the pitch week in week out .i mean come on lets have some fairness
i think the the u 21 reserve league is the problem neither cork or maya could play in matches to get to a level the premier league demands neither of them looked match fit or up to the pace .we have 7 subs sat on there bums 4 might not get a match for weeks .then there drafted in to play how can they perform at premier league level .it wont happen in reality they need 3 games to get match therefore to blame them is a bit unfair ,the whole reserve set up is a problem to many players inactive then expected to perform the same as the team on the pitch week in week out .i mean come on lets have some fairness saintkenny
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Thu 5 Dec 13

westfordUSAsaints says...

The past three games are in the past, a solid test of where we are as a SQUAD and MP as a manager too. Not looking for anything out of Saturday, a draw would help but with the injuries, we could be in for a long day at the office, but you just never know this season.

Glad we got the solid start and points on the board, this month could get rocky as we wait to get the first 11 back fit and look to add in the window. Stay positive.

And they are; we are 8th, safe in the top half, we are ahead of Man Utd, and we are not that shower down the road!

Top 10 is still very much on cards this season, which would be great progress for us.

COYR
The past three games are in the past, a solid test of where we are as a SQUAD and MP as a manager too. Not looking for anything out of Saturday, a draw would help but with the injuries, we could be in for a long day at the office, but you just never know this season. Glad we got the solid start and points on the board, this month could get rocky as we wait to get the first 11 back fit and look to add in the window. Stay positive. And they are; we are 8th, safe in the top half, we are ahead of Man Utd, and we are not that shower down the road! Top 10 is still very much on cards this season, which would be great progress for us. COYR westfordUSAsaints
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Thu 5 Dec 13

saintbobby says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Our expectations are so very high

We have now found our level 7-10 We are going to have some wonderful days (starting with Citeh on Saturday) and some more Villa days!!!

Teams have found us out - s we must have a plan B and C - Rather liked the 3-4-3 at the end last night :)

Come on Saints fans - think back 3 years COYR
Puddletown - spot on!!

I only saw the score right at the end and was choked! But then I reminded myself again that this is only our 2nd season back in the PL and we have started better than any of us probably expected.

I suppose Manchester City may prove to be bad news again but when did we last lose 4 games on the trot? I still think the team has been absolutely fantastic this year but we have tripped up in the last games, but these included 2 top dogs. Villa just has to be one of those games - 77% possession is incredible and then to lose must be burglary

But, think where we were and remind ourselves we could have finished up like that lot along the M27 . So let's be cheerful. Where we finish is perhaps now a puzzle - but at the end we will still be in the PL, for sure!!

Up THE SAINTS!
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Our expectations are so very high We have now found our level 7-10 We are going to have some wonderful days (starting with Citeh on Saturday) and some more Villa days!!! Teams have found us out - s we must have a plan B and C - Rather liked the 3-4-3 at the end last night :) Come on Saints fans - think back 3 years COYR[/p][/quote]Puddletown - spot on!! I only saw the score right at the end and was choked! But then I reminded myself again that this is only our 2nd season back in the PL and we have started better than any of us probably expected. I suppose Manchester City may prove to be bad news again but when did we last lose 4 games on the trot? I still think the team has been absolutely fantastic this year but we have tripped up in the last games, but these included 2 top dogs. Villa just has to be one of those games - 77% possession is incredible and then to lose must be burglary But, think where we were and remind ourselves we could have finished up like that lot along the M27 . So let's be cheerful. Where we finish is perhaps now a puzzle - but at the end we will still be in the PL, for sure!! Up THE SAINTS! saintbobby
  • Score: 1

7:53pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Positively4thStreet says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click.

Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway.

Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play.

Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far.

MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed.

So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please.

Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?!
The current position summed up in a nutshell.Good post Egomaniac.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click. Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway. Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play. Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far. MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed. So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please. Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?![/p][/quote]The current position summed up in a nutshell.Good post Egomaniac. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

9:00pm Thu 5 Dec 13

SaintNick50 says...

I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! SaintNick50
  • Score: 0

10:00pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

stephanieromero wrote:
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We hate spammers,
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[quote][p][bold]stephanieromero[/bold] wrote: Only seriously interested people will be welcomed, We hate spammers, Thanks,,you have to work and use the computer and internet, and if you can do that and dedicate some time each day then you can do this with no problem. I have been working with this for a month and have made over 2,000GBP already. let me know if you need more here you go >>>>> >> ℬAℛ17.cℴm[/p][/quote]Yeah we don't like Spammers either. Specially those Wet Spammers. Otherwise known as the Hoof. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Thu 5 Dec 13

donni1437 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click.

Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway.

Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play.

Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far.

MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed.

So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please.

Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?!
The current position summed up in a nutshell.Good post Egomaniac.
Sorry but I disagree to an extent. I think we do have strength in depth for a club in their 2nd season back in the prem. Of course we don't have the depth of the "top 4", Spurs, Everton or Liverpool. But compare to sides outside those, who have had more seasons under their belts, and we don't look too out of place. Internationals and record signings sitting on the bench isn't that bad for a club like Saints. We could have scatter gunned the transfer kitty and bought in 6 or 7 players to give the squad perhaps more depth, but I think the determination to promote the youth is taken seriously by the club and to buy a few better plays seems to have been the right choice so far this season. Saying that I do think a goalie is the only short-term requirement for me, as either a back-up or replacement to Artur, not that I think Artur needs replacement.

We've lost 3 games to Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa. No shame in that and it wasn't as if we were outplayed in any of the games, maybe a 15 min spell at Stamford bridge. We were the better team last night, I don't care what the result was, the better team does not always win.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I've said it before, and I will say it again! Our primary problem is the inability to score goals! The stats say it all from last night - 77% possession and only two goals. !00% possession is useless if you can't take the chances offered by such domination. Villa had only 23% possession and scored three from nothing! They took their chances superbly. They were the better team on the night because they won! Looking ahead with our current injury list, I do nor expect anything from the game against Man City. They have the talent and depth of squad to beat anyone on their day - and unfortunately their away form is beginning to click. Our second problem is lack of depth in the overall squad. Someone posted earlier that once we were back to our full strength eleven, all would be well. At this level you need more than just a fit first eleven. We need players who can step in for the injured and perform to the same level. or at least be game changers if off the bench. We just do not have that luxury - yet anyway. Finally, we need the manager to produce a Plan B (or even C) just as Mourinho did against us on Saturday. Saints were Chelsea equals until the second half, when they changed their plan and formation. We had no answer, and they negated our style of play. Nevertheless, I did not expect to see Saints at their current position when the season started - that's the huge positive this season so far. MP is a very talented manager, but there are some glaring gaps in his strategy at this level. I am quite sure he will solve the problems in due course, and I expect the future for SFC will be very promising indeed. So, strengthen the squad in January, get rid of the non-perfomers, and have a Plan B and/or C please. Whether or not we gat anything from Saturday, I will always be proud to be a Saints supporter. A top ten finish for me this season will be a huge success for the Club I hold dear. Next season, who knows ......?![/p][/quote]The current position summed up in a nutshell.Good post Egomaniac.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I disagree to an extent. I think we do have strength in depth for a club in their 2nd season back in the prem. Of course we don't have the depth of the "top 4", Spurs, Everton or Liverpool. But compare to sides outside those, who have had more seasons under their belts, and we don't look too out of place. Internationals and record signings sitting on the bench isn't that bad for a club like Saints. We could have scatter gunned the transfer kitty and bought in 6 or 7 players to give the squad perhaps more depth, but I think the determination to promote the youth is taken seriously by the club and to buy a few better plays seems to have been the right choice so far this season. Saying that I do think a goalie is the only short-term requirement for me, as either a back-up or replacement to Artur, not that I think Artur needs replacement. We've lost 3 games to Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa. No shame in that and it wasn't as if we were outplayed in any of the games, maybe a 15 min spell at Stamford bridge. We were the better team last night, I don't care what the result was, the better team does not always win. COYR donni1437
  • Score: 4

10:28pm Thu 5 Dec 13

donni1437 says...

SaintNick50 wrote:
I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!
So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.
[quote][p][bold]SaintNick50[/bold] wrote: I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that. donni1437
  • Score: 4

10:30pm Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

donni1437 wrote:
SaintNick50 wrote:
I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!
So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.
Vic said to have a chipped bone in his foot and six weeks out if true.
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintNick50[/bold] wrote: I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.[/p][/quote]Vic said to have a chipped bone in his foot and six weeks out if true. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

saintkenny says...

donni1437 wrote:
SaintNick50 wrote:
I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!
So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.
for me i would play victor in cork holding morgan further up spraying the passes but pressing when we dont have the ball.has to be a winner
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintNick50[/bold] wrote: I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.[/p][/quote]for me i would play victor in cork holding morgan further up spraying the passes but pressing when we dont have the ball.has to be a winner saintkenny
  • Score: 0

10:34pm Thu 5 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
stephanieromero wrote:
Only seriously interested people will be welcomed,
We hate spammers,
Thanks,,you have to work and use the computer and internet,
and if you can do that and dedicate some time each day then you can do this with no problem.
I have been working with this for a month and have made over 2,000GBP already. let me know if you need more here you go
>>>>>

>> ℬAℛ17.cℴm
Yeah we don't like Spammers either. Specially those Wet Spammers. Otherwise known as the Hoof.
Report it, don't quote it.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stephanieromero[/bold] wrote: Only seriously interested people will be welcomed, We hate spammers, Thanks,,you have to work and use the computer and internet, and if you can do that and dedicate some time each day then you can do this with no problem. I have been working with this for a month and have made over 2,000GBP already. let me know if you need more here you go >>>>> >> ℬAℛ17.cℴm[/p][/quote]Yeah we don't like Spammers either. Specially those Wet Spammers. Otherwise known as the Hoof.[/p][/quote]Report it, don't quote it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:25am Fri 6 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

saintkenny wrote:
donni1437 wrote:
SaintNick50 wrote:
I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!
So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.
for me i would play victor in cork holding morgan further up spraying the passes but pressing when we dont have the ball.has to be a winner
And who would you drop?
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintNick50[/bold] wrote: I saw a lot of positives from Jack. He delivers the ball quicker. He plays slightly further forward and his passes are more positive. All plusses v Wanyama. Brig back Jack Cork and keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]So you would seriously drop Victor for Cork if you were Poch? That's a big call. I really don't get the Victor negativity from the fans. I believe he's made the side better this season and would love to hear the arguments against that.[/p][/quote]for me i would play victor in cork holding morgan further up spraying the passes but pressing when we dont have the ball.has to be a winner[/p][/quote]And who would you drop? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

5:32am Fri 6 Dec 13

just kidding says...

I think Jack played really well, In fact if we do have a few injury problems, this could well be his moment to shine again. We play our game high up the pitch and that's where were going to find most of the opposition, so it seems like it takes ages to create a goal scoring opportunity because there are so many bodies in the way. But we pass the ball around beautifully and its great to watch because we do it so well. I hope the team wont get too down on themselves about this result because this was a winning performance. I counted just 3 maybe 4 moments of prolonged possession from Villa and WTF they score three goals, that's just crazy. I hope Jack gets his chance. Not because I prefer him to others but because he is a very good player who works his socks off and he needs a run. He is part of a great squad. I must admit like many of my fellow Saints supporters I have felt pretty down the last couple of days, I hadn't read any reviews, till today that is. But I think we are doing alright, my team.
I think Jack played really well, In fact if we do have a few injury problems, this could well be his moment to shine again. We play our game high up the pitch and that's where were going to find most of the opposition, so it seems like it takes ages to create a goal scoring opportunity because there are so many bodies in the way. But we pass the ball around beautifully and its great to watch because we do it so well. I hope the team wont get too down on themselves about this result because this was a winning performance. I counted just 3 maybe 4 moments of prolonged possession from Villa and WTF they score three goals, that's just crazy. I hope Jack gets his chance. Not because I prefer him to others but because he is a very good player who works his socks off and he needs a run. He is part of a great squad. I must admit like many of my fellow Saints supporters I have felt pretty down the last couple of days, I hadn't read any reviews, till today that is. But I think we are doing alright, my team. just kidding
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Fri 6 Dec 13

st1halo says...

Please stop going on about Plan B and Plan C and try to understand the game you are watching. Saints have moved on from formation football. The pressing style is far more fluid and tactically, adapts to every single game we play. MP calculates threats and changes tactics accordingly, sometimes you will notice the wing backs racing forward, sometimes limiting their advances to a certain point, A forward came on for a midfielder on Wednesday night as we were totally dominant in midfield and were likely to remain so even with one sacrificed, giving us that extra up front. What I'm sayng is that we already have a plan B,C,D etc through to Plan Z and these take place during every game hence we have only really been outplayed for 15 mins by one team throughout the season thus far.

STID
Please stop going on about Plan B and Plan C and try to understand the game you are watching. Saints have moved on from formation football. The pressing style is far more fluid and tactically, adapts to every single game we play. MP calculates threats and changes tactics accordingly, sometimes you will notice the wing backs racing forward, sometimes limiting their advances to a certain point, A forward came on for a midfielder on Wednesday night as we were totally dominant in midfield and were likely to remain so even with one sacrificed, giving us that extra up front. What I'm sayng is that we already have a plan B,C,D etc through to Plan Z and these take place during every game hence we have only really been outplayed for 15 mins by one team throughout the season thus far. STID st1halo
  • Score: 3

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