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Morgan should be fit to face Wolves

6:10am Tuesday 11th November 2008

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MORGAN Schneiderlin should be fit for Saints’ game against Championship table toppers Wolves on Saturday.

The French midfielder was forced out of the game at Bristol City through an injury picked up in training two days previously.

Schneiderlin, whose performances since signing for Saints have even seen him linked with a January move to Arsenal, will be back in the reckoning for the visit to St Mary’s of Mick McCarthy’s men.

Full story in today's Daily Echo


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UTS, says...
8:33am Tue 11 Nov 08

How has Lowe not managed to gag Morgan with his comments on setanta sports about Arsenal ?

Anyway more important business today is the daily echo trying to save some of its credibity by printing Dave Bassetts comments on talksport radio.

Whilst there at maybe they would also like to contact Stuart Gray, Steve Wigley and even Mr Sturrock ! On Lowe intefering with team affairs.

No need to contact 'Patsy Porto' as we all know he is just a Lowe puppet.

loweout@hotmail.co.uk, St. Marys says...
8:55am Tue 11 Nov 08

How about someone try and gag Lowe?

chapelsaint, Hedge End says...
8:59am Tue 11 Nov 08

Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?

UTS, says...
9:07am Tue 11 Nov 08

I forgot to say i thought it was common knowledge that when SFC got Morgan Arsenal had first dabs.


Shoong, Winchester says...
9:34am Tue 11 Nov 08

chapelsaint wrote:
Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so.
If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...

Kate, Andover, says...
10:05am Tue 11 Nov 08

Shoong wrote:
chapelsaint wrote: Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so. If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...
But if we play at 100% and they play at 75%, why can't we beat them???

That's happened with Birmingham already this season........

Saint, says...
10:30am Tue 11 Nov 08

Kate, Andover wrote:
Shoong wrote:
chapelsaint wrote: Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so. If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...
But if we play at 100% and they play at 75%, why can't we beat them??? That's happened with Birmingham already this season........
Not in the league! That what counts!!

loweout@hotmail.co.uk, St. Marys says...
10:36am Tue 11 Nov 08

Kate, Andover wrote:
Shoong wrote:
chapelsaint wrote: Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so. If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...
But if we play at 100% and they play at 75%, why can't we beat them??? That's happened with Birmingham already this season........
Why cant we beat the other 8 sides we lost to this season?

Forty five Years!, Newport says...
10:48am Tue 11 Nov 08

Not that I'm usually pessimistic but......Looking at our present form P 16 W4 D4 L8,, we will end up in the relegation zone if we compare with last year's table. If we say we are 1/3 through the season, then we end up with W12 D12 L24 (I know that makes 48 games not 46 but close enough) which will give 48 points!

Alan Curbishley is between jobs and used to making ends meet. We need some experience here somewhere!

sainthog7, southampton says...
11:19am Tue 11 Nov 08

Alan Curbishley is to much of a man for mrlowe&chums they would not be able to pull his strings&Kate please open your eyes and dont think with your heart

Shoong, Winchester says...
11:30am Tue 11 Nov 08

Kate, Andover wrote:
Shoong wrote:
chapelsaint wrote: Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so. If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...
But if we play at 100% and they play at 75%, why can't we beat them???

That's happened with Birmingham already this season........
Sorry Kate, a 100% Reserve side playing at 100% is really up against it against a Wolves side who look like they are 100% due for promotion this season.

I hope I'm proved wrong though.

Costa Baz, Southampton says...
11:45am Tue 11 Nov 08

I see on Paddy Power Saints are 8-1 to win 1-0 against Wolves.
If we are 8-1 to keep a clean sheet on Saturday, I wonder what the odds are on Kelvin Davis doing the same Friday night? ;-D

Chris1991, Marchwood says...
12:13pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Alan Curbishley eh? So you want to replace our manager with a loser?

Besides, he won't come cheap and will want to spend lots of money.

Therefore, it ain't gonna happen.

bringbackdave, FARNBOROUGH says...
1:24pm Tue 11 Nov 08

SAINTS TO WIN 2- 0!! Hell all teams have an off day and so will we!!
JP will pick a better mix of experience and youth, the 2 strikers up front will shoot past the keeper rather than at him and the back 4 won't give away any soft goals or stupid penalties.

loweout@hotmail.co.uk, St. Marys says...
1:38pm Tue 11 Nov 08

'Harry' Basset on Talksport last night confirmed what most of us suspected.

Rupert Lowe does interfere in team affairs.

Bassett was answering questions on relegation, in place of regular Stan Collymore.

When one phone-in fan asked about Southamptons chance of avoiding further relegation here is some of his comments.

Souhampton are very niave at the back, very exciting, very inexperienced.

But watching them all the other managers must be rubbing their hands together to play them.

Their manager seems to be niave as well, he hasn't come to terms with english football yet.

Too many youngsters all at the same time.

I know their chairman Rupert Lowe claim its cost cutting, but having experienced some time there with Harry Redknapp. I know he was always wanting us to play the young players.

Every week Harrys selection was picked over, every week Rupert Lowe insisted he included more youngsters, every week Harry resisted.

Whilst Harry and I were in charge that was not a problem however annoying it was. Then Rupert got two of his buddies involved, one from a non league club, one from another sport.

This was the end of Harry he walked as soon as an offer came in. I stayed for a while but could see how the wind was blowing.

Several ex Saints managers warned me not apply for Harrys job, because Rupert had always interfered in their job on the same lines.

In the end I was not offered the job, probably Rupert knew I would ignore his orders.

Thank you very much to Dave Bassett for having the courage to speak out.

To all those fans who dont understand why some supporters are boycotting SMS until Lowe goes, now you know.

The time for burying you heads in the sand over what is happen must end if we are to save our club from further disaster.

We are on a downward spiral and Lowe is in charge. Vote with your wallets and join the thousands not attending SMS until Lowe and Wilde resign for good.

If you are not attending SMS as a result of Lowes interfernce, please drop me an email stating the number of adults and children boycotting.

Lowe out, Wilde Out, JP Out.

Satellite, Erpingham. Norfolk says...
3:16pm Tue 11 Nov 08

loweout@hotmail, your are a prat.
The football played under Redknapp/Bassett was rubbish, some of the worse I have seen at either the Dell or SMS.
The football being played now is far better to watch.
So we have lost a few games, at least the 'Boys' are trying their best. Which never happened under the above two or the new scottish manager.
If you want to stay away, then do that. But stop posting things like " we are on a downward spiral" how the hell would you know, you're not there to see.
I would also like to thank the Northam End for their support against Bristol, just keeping singing like that and we will be moving up the league.

St Retford, Manchester says...
3:18pm Tue 11 Nov 08

What courage? That man helped get us relegated and then became really bitter about us when, unsurprisingly, we picked George Burley to be manager ahead of him. He's full of sour grapes and I'd doubt everything he says.

So, in short, we're going to STUFF Wolves this weekend. I can feel it in the air, you mark my words.

Satellite, Erpingham. Norfolk says...
3:21pm Tue 11 Nov 08

UTS, another false statement, Arsenal did not have first dabs on him, because Morgan wanted to come to the Saints.
Having spoken to him just lately, I can tell you he is very happy being here.
Still keep posting, you give a 'old boy' a good laugh.

Satellite, Erpingham. Norfolk says...
3:31pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Wolves on Saturday, how I remember their Chairman Jack Walker spending £100M trying to get them into the Premiership.
Just goes to show, money is not always the answer, its fans supporting the team through the good and bad times. Not like a lot of 'Glory' hunters on here, who only go when we are winning.

S!mon, Romsey says...
4:21pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Satellite wrote:
loweout@hotmail, your are a prat. The football played under Redknapp/Bassett was rubbish, some of the worse I have seen at either the Dell or SMS. The football being played now is far better to watch. So we have lost a few games, at least the 'Boys' are trying their best. Which never happened under the above two or the new scottish manager. If you want to stay away, then do that. But stop posting things like " we are on a downward spiral" how the hell would you know, you're not there to see. I would also like to thank the Northam End for their support against Bristol, just keeping singing like that and we will be moving up the league.
Yoy say "stop posting things like " we are on a downward spiral" how the hell would you know"

The recent results and the table speaks volumes don't it???????

Derek of Holbury, Holbury says...
4:59pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Derek of Holbury, Holbury says...
4:55pm Tue 11 Nov 08
St Jez, and Satellite, and St Retford,
I was at the match and my voice is regularly heard on this site. The only unfortunate thing is that there could (with just a little bit of effort) be so many more like you and I, at the ground and on this site, making positive. I know it sometimes gets tedious listening to the same old record, but we must not give in to the minority, and we have to keep putting that positive point of view across for the sake of our club.

I agree with absolutely all you have to say, and from talking to people day to day I know most people share most of our beliefs. Of course there are moans and groans when we lose and the same thing happens over tactics and teams selections, and I include myself in that number. Jesus, these things all happened when Bates was manager, and Lawrie Mac, and Ballie, so it doesn't just happen when things are going badly wrong. This is football, and I have supported Saints for over 40 years, and believe me it has always been this way. The only difference is that those doing the moaning always find their way back to support the team they love. The game has changed - hence the speed with which managers are replaced, the foreign invasion into our game, and the clout that fans now for some reason THINK they have in the running of their club.

At the end of the day we pick the club we wish to support and we pay for that privilege. We then have the option of staying a supporter (through thick and thin) or we can push off somewhere else when the going gets tough. I personally do not think there is an in between where we hound Board members, stage protests, and continually bombard websites with distasteful emails when we go through a bad patch.

This is not me living in the dark ages - just saying it as it is.

I support my team and would not feel right doing anything that undermined the guys who pull on our shirt to play their guts out for me. As you say, these poor kids must be reading and listening to all the sick nonsense being put about and wondering what the hell is going on.
Come on the rest of you fans with decent things to say - lets hear you

Court Jester Crew, Southampton says...
5:19pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Derek well said I agree with you about support of the team you love I have been a supporter since 1960 maybe slightly longer than you. I intend to carry on supporting Saints through thick and thin. My god it is thin at the mo but surely thats all part of being a supporter we take the knocks and delight in the successes.
I do however think that JP is being a bit naive about the best way to play teams in the CCC. We need to play 2 strikers upfront McGoldrick looks out of his depth without a mate to pass to in order to facilitate movement into the oppositions penalty area. Our midfield still seem to be slow off the mark to provide support and are playing too deep allowing the opposition to much room to get back at us. This season is going to be heart stopping stuff.
Just to conclude I am not a Lowe/Wilde supporter but what alternative is there? Come on all you negative posters how can you persuade a sugar daddy to take on Saints in their very precarious financial position? Even if Saints was sold who's to say that the new owner will not be just as interfering?
Please put the team first the supporters are worth an additional player if we are all behind team.
COYR

loweout@hotmail.co.uk, St. Marys says...
5:20pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Satellite wrote:
loweout@hotmail, your are a prat. The football played under Redknapp/Bassett was rubbish, some of the worse I have seen at either the Dell or SMS. The football being played now is far better to watch. So we have lost a few games, at least the 'Boys' are trying their best. Which never happened under the above two or the new scottish manager. If you want to stay away, then do that. But stop posting things like " we are on a downward spiral" how the hell would you know, you're not there to see. I would also like to thank the Northam End for their support against Bristol, just keeping singing like that and we will be moving up the league.
Thank you for your comments Satellite, though personal abuse is not welcome and unnecessary.

My point is Lowe is the negative factor which is destroying our club.

He has made bad choices as Chairman which has got us relegated, split the fan base and created an enviroment where we are forced to play our youth team to balance the books.

My feelings about the football played under previous managers or the players bought into the club are not in my observations.

My point is 100% Lowes interference with footballing matters and his decisions have got us where we are today.

Lowe out, Lowe out

the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
5:25pm Tue 11 Nov 08

As much as i suspect that Lowe is interfearing in team selection,the choice of not going to watch the team i love,will ultimately be another nail in the coffin for our club.Administration will become a reality followed by a ten point deduction,which will mean certain relegation.Then we will start next season in league1 with another 10 point deduction and the club will be bought by another businessman intent on recouping his investment and people like UTS etc will be screaming for his head to roll.Lowe comes across as a complete prat,who`s not prepared to listen to the experienced voices in football,he seems arrogent and aloof,i doubt if many fans like him.The fact is ,i love my team more than i dislike Lowe,its as simple as that,i aint prepared to cut off my nose to spite my face.To me it makes sense that the lower down the football league you go and the size and loyalty of your support to a team will determine the wealth and level of investment that you will get out of a businessman or consortium,lets face they are not going to be coming here for the love of saints ,just like Lowe they want to make money.Cmon get over yourselves and your daft obsessions with the poxy chairman,it reminds me of the old ugly inside fanzine ,always a far better read than the programme,it had a smattering of club politics which was fine,but it then became obsessed with Lowe and it lost it`s humour.Ultimately we`re all Saints fans and we`re all hurting at the moment,i just feel all this division will damage our club even more than that knob Lowe.

AndyinBitterne, says...
5:25pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Of course it's depressing to come on here and read about Lowe-although I have to say that's not half as depressing as thinking that he has any input into team matters.
I read on the saints trust website that our friends down the road are likely to have new owners (south african) with even more money. That will widen the gap further between us and make me even more depressed!
Isn't this the area where Lowe is supposed to be an expert? Much better he comes up with something there than spending his time messing with the team!

Lorenzo, Arboleas Spain says...
5:45pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Firstly I have to say that Lowe is nowhere near the top of my christmas card list, but I'm pretty much in agreement with Derek on this issue. Living where I do I have to rely a lot on other people's opinions, and that does not include the echo, I check the date twice on there. I was able to watch the game on Saturday, and was hugely disappointed that we could not overcome such mediocre opposition. Pretty football in the middle third of the park never hurts the other team, and we seem woefully short of creative ability, I don't think Torres would score for that team, any striker needs service, and that was clearly missing. Having said that, why on earth do all the whingers persist, the choice is theirs, if they don't like what's on offer then they are free to go elsewhere, but if, as they would have us believe, they are true supporters then surely support is what those kids need right now, playing in a "bear pit" will not help them one bit. I do not kid myself that all is rosy in the orchard, and, as I have said once before, the biggest error Lowe ever made was bringing baggy face in when all the man wanted to do was to thumb his nose to Mandaric, his heart was never in the job. I blame him more than anyone for the predicament we now find ourselves in. I am proud to have worn the colours as an associate scholboy, and will support the team whatever, I just wish the fickle few would go away, they do no good at all with their ranting.

wizard, soton says...
6:02pm Tue 11 Nov 08

AndyinBitterne wrote:
Of course it's depressing to come on here and read about Lowe-although I have to say that's not half as depressing as thinking that he has any input into team matters.
I read on the saints trust website that our friends down the road are likely to have new owners (south african) with even more money. That will widen the gap further between us and make me even more depressed!
Isn't this the area where Lowe is supposed to be an expert? Much better he comes up with something there than spending his time messing with the team!
we just wont line lowes pockets unlike you fickle few,get over it and get a life,when lowe has gone,we will be back! SIMPLE

UTS, says...
6:04pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Satellite wrote:
UTS, another false statement, Arsenal did not have first dabs on him, because Morgan wanted to come to the Saints. Having spoken to him just lately, I can tell you he is very happy being here. Still keep posting, you give a 'old boy' a good laugh.
I think you will find that they do indeed :)

Traceyf, Southampton says...
6:53pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Kate, Andover wrote:
Shoong wrote:
chapelsaint wrote: Really good news about Morgan--but will it make any difference?
As depressing as it is to say, I don't think so. If Wolves play 75% of what they are capable of we are in for a tonking on Saturday I'm afraid...
But if we play at 100% and they play at 75%, why can't we beat them??? That's happened with Birmingham already this season........
Kate,

It would apparently be because Saints have Lowe for chairman.

Satellite, Erpingham. Norfolk says...
7:07pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Wizard, you're another one, "will not line Lowe's pockets".
SIMPLE, you must be, the Saints are part of a PLc. Accounts are Audited every 6 months. I have a copy of every Financial Statement issued, nowhere, does it show that Lowe 'lined' his pockets in any year of being Chairman.
However, they do show that some players were paid more than he received.
You and a few others on this site should be more careful with printing false imformation. Because there is a court case where Directors of a Club are suing supporters, as far away as the USA for such reasons.
If you have proof that Lowe has 'lined' his pockets with the PLc's money, let us see it in writing on this site. If you have not and its just your loose tougue, BEWARE!!

Dr Who, Basingstoke says...
7:10pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Sometimes I think we just need to pause and weigh up the strength of the opposing "Boycott the Saints" argument - if only to keep things in perspective for those who try to assess the mood of the fans from afar.

At the time of posting, 28 contributions have been posted on this page today. 18 of them have been positive, 10 have been negative, of which SEVEN have been posted by just TWO, I repeat TWO regular self acclaimed supporters who advocate that fans should show their support for the club by staying away from matches.

I'll leave it to you to judge the strength of the opposing argument.




knuckle dragger, Southampton says...
7:11pm Tue 11 Nov 08

UTS wrote:
Satellite wrote: UTS, another false statement, Arsenal did not have first dabs on him, because Morgan wanted to come to the Saints. Having spoken to him just lately, I can tell you he is very happy being here. Still keep posting, you give a 'old boy' a good laugh.
I think you will find that they do indeed :)
Yeah its dead true UTS. My mate down the pub knows someone who knows someone who knows someone at sms and he says he has been told its true so it must be.

Satellite, Erpingham. Norfolk says...
7:25pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Dr.Who, I never noticed that, but I haven't got two hearts and three brains?.Well Spotted!!

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
7:56pm Tue 11 Nov 08

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
7:47pm Tue 11 Nov 08
Good Evening all, it's me again. I have a proposal for all Saints fans - including the anti-Lowe's like me who vowed never to spend whilst he was at the helm...please read on.

I was awoken by a dream at 2am this morning which liberated a couple of hours before work for thought!

My first thought was that IF every fan currently attending SMS was to persuade a friend to go with them the attendance would be virtually to capacity. This will never happen!

My second thought then was to demonstrate to the Lowe, the board and potential investor what Saints are all about. I am proposing the fans unite - the Lowe Luvvies and Anti-Lowe's for one home match per month for the rest of the season. Cost may prohibit this being done every home game - but once a month seems fair. For their part the club open every part of the ground and the fans fill the stadium, get behind the team for 90 minutes - not one moan or groan - just 90mins of songs, chants and encouragement.

The next home game those real fans turn up again...15,000. The statement being "It's our club - we want it back". The following month the same thing...Mr Lowe if you go we will keep coming, but this is your last chance.

I would hope that this promoted 2-things:
1) An intimidating atmosphere for the away side.
2) Give our lads a boost and confidence to win.
The knock on from this will be the Board (and main share holders) will see Mr Lowe for what he is and get him out. Mr Lowe in his turn will allow investment on terms agreeable to the shareholders...not just him.

This will then put the club in a position to understand the true fans base, and the affect of the "Never again with Lowe in charge" factor. Some estimate nearly 1,000 - others a sum more. I'm not saying it's the other 15,000 - but if you want a club to be proud of you need to fight for it.
This message needs to driven home on every forum, in The Echo, and other froms of press. The Saints Trust should do something - but why do I in the tiny market town in the East Riding Of Yorkshire try to come up with ideas. It needs organising - we can make it count.

This post is dedicated to Derek and Kate...I've not turned the corner yet, but I think getting people in and generating that sort of atmosphere may get people going back, and maybe enjoying it again.

So UTS, Denzil et al (who is al?) what about it? Show the board SMS has the fan base to support a once great club, and get the financial backing we desire - and finally show them that the Lowe factor is a MAJOR factor

derek fo holbury, holbury says...
7:57pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Hate to say I told you so, but so many comments I have posted on this site are now being rerpeated. I am not having a go at this or trying really to take any credit, but will just say three cheers.

I have been criticised for being "holier than thou" but that person could not find it in themself to come back and tell me why. I have also been called "condescending" and again - no facts came forward to back it up.

If my beliefs, views, and opinions hurt or upset people - I am sorry, but please tell me why.

I have never slagged anyone off on this site, been aggressive, or resorted to name calling. Except for UTS that is, who confounds me with his irrational comments.

It is so good to have real proof that the good comments by far outweigh the bad, and that most of the bad (as I have already suggested) come from only a couple of people in the main.

All I want to do is support my team and try to give an honest and fair assessment of what they try and do for us supporters when they pull on the red and white. I have also said so many times that I am not a Lowe fan, but I feel that what goes on in the Boardroom at the moment is secondary.

Every fan has the right to go or stay away from matches, and they also have a right to like or dislike anyone at the club. From where I am standing, the thought of letting some obsessive mindset over our Chairman, ultimately wreck our club by having a portion of the fan base missing from matches is sheer lunacy.

It is ovious that the problem is so deeply engrained in the brains of SOME supporters that they will indeeed stay away all the time Lowe and Wilde are here. Their choice, and to my mind their loss.

However, I am positive there are so many fans who do not have such a deep seated hatred, and you are the fans who can make a difference. Lets see all of you start posting messages of support on this site to make the margin between the good message and bad message much much bigger. You can do it and you can also start dragging yourself back to SMS. It won't always be pretty and for sure we will lose matches, but you lot hold the key. You could just mean the difference beteen the relegation these protesters seem to want with a vengeance, and staying up

Go for it. The lads deserve it and you know it makes sense.

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
8:08pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Well I can see this idea has got everybodies juices running!

OK let's pick the game for December 2008 & Jan 2009 for the "sell-out" crowd.

WE must write to the club requesting all the ground is made available for these games on the premise we are going to fill the stadium. This "filling of the stadium" is to help the finances, help the team and demonstrate we can unite behind an ideal...and this ideal is to get rid of Rupert Lowe. I know Xmas is coming - but £24 is £6 week - a packet of fags or two pints...so there is no excuse.
The more unfashionable the team the better.
We must get the message across via the press and TV. Nick Illingsworth for all his faults seems to get interviews and in print - so what about it Saints Trust?
Over to you guys then!

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
8:10pm Tue 11 Nov 08

PS forgot to say say "See you in Block 1"
Keep the Faith...but I want the Glory!

ssherbie28, romsey says...
8:36pm Tue 11 Nov 08

What a good idea .Lets do the Swansea game(31st JANUARY).Swansea will bring a good crowd the taffs will not know whats it hit them .Lets show Rupert Lowe
and his buddies they are not bigger than the Saints...

wizard, soton says...
8:43pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Satellite wrote:
Wizard, you're another one, "will not line Lowe's pockets".
SIMPLE, you must be, the Saints are part of a PLc. Accounts are Audited every 6 months. I have a copy of every Financial Statement issued, nowhere, does it show that Lowe 'lined' his pockets in any year of being Chairman.
However, they do show that some players were paid more than he received.
You and a few others on this site should be more careful with printing false imformation. Because there is a court case where Directors of a Club are suing supporters, as far away as the USA for such reasons.
If you have proof that Lowe has 'lined' his pockets with the PLc's money, let us see it in writing on this site. If you have not and its just your loose tougue, BEWARE!!
are you mr lowe?

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
8:47pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Can we wait that long?

We need a game in December...what about Sheff Wed on 6th?

I'll be in the sh*t as it is my 29th wedding anniversary - perhaps I'll have to make a weekend of it!


derek fo holbury, holbury says...
8:52pm Tue 11 Nov 08

St Yorkie,

I secretly think your tongue is so far into your cheek you look almost pornographic.

Anyway, I am up for it, but you were already aware of that fact.

I think the increase (irresppective of results) should be gradual so as not to alarm the club and the stewards. As for having the whole gound - do you really think you would have to go on bended knee to the Lowe fellow? If gates were to sneak up, and advance tickets for a particular match were substancial the whole ground would be available. If you guys hate Lowe and are incensed that he has shut parts of the ground - force him to re-open them by filling the bloody stadium. It's a no brainer isn't it?

I think we give everybody a chance to get used to being back there, and it should therefore be the last match of the year. It would be so good to have a sellout game as we watch Reading's championship hopes take a dent.

Yep - the eternal optomist, but you cannot deny there is a an upturn in the amount of positive thoughts this site is attracting.

You can have whatever glory you wish to extract from this, and you know I will keep the faith. The hope is that you can restore some of yours - genuinely.

Come on you upbeat supporters - where are your positive thoughts. Lets kick this pessimism and gloom out or our club. We are better than this, and history proves we used to have bloody good supporters who appreciated good football, and accepted that although we are basically a small club we could never be knocked for our support of the men/boys in red and white.

So what are you going to do about the dissent you keep hearing, and how strong are your feelings for the once great club of yours. It needs your help boys, or else it will slide into obscurity. Complacency is not an option

Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
9:27pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Arsenal my Arse...

Dr Who, Basingstoke says...
10:26pm Tue 11 Nov 08

Derek of Holbury - I have just put you forward for a knighthood. From now on I will refer to you as Sir Derek if that's ok with you. I have been encouraged by your postings to look into time and space. According to my radar if everyone pulls in the same direction, I see a significant rise in the status and influence of supporters. Admittedly we need to clear some of the fog first, but the future could so easily be very bright - with the stands full of red and white. Let's go for it!

Thorshammer, Valhalla says...
10:54pm Tue 11 Nov 08

If we got rid of the loan players we have gathered and are just picking up the money and nothing else, could we not afford to bring Stern John back?.
We must be shelling out for these bench warmers, it's starting to remind me of last year and our relegation season when we had too many non players.
They may be youngsters but they still cost us money which could be put to work elsewhere.
My nipper, Mark Dennis, are right.
We need to get ouselves a street=wise player in mid-field and a strong target man otherwise we are in the doo doo.



UTS, says...
7:16am Wed 12 Nov 08

I think we can safely say Derek is a wind up merchant on the bite.

Court Jester Crew, Southampton says...
9:54am Wed 12 Nov 08

The 6th December for this sell out crowd is a great idea. Especially for me as I will be out of the plaster cast by then and will be able to take my seat in the Itchen stand. It would be great to see SMS full and at the fans instigation.
Let's hope that JP will respond by concentrating on team tactics to expose the opposition instead of Saints being exploited. It just needs a formation change JP PLEASE DO IT!!!!! Big crowd will be the extra man that Saints need
COYR

Court Jester Crew, Southampton says...
10:01am Wed 12 Nov 08

PS: If my memory serves me well The Sheff Wed supporters include the rather large rotund gentleman who provided us a some entertainment before being stopped by our gormless stewards. Funny I thought stewards were for crowd control not humour stoppers

Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
10:21am Wed 12 Nov 08

Dear Rupert,

The Arsenal Academy proved last night against Wigan what youngsters can achieve. But that's the Arsenal displaying the crown jewels. Sadly Rupert you are trying to emulate them working with what Gerald Ratner described as 'crap'.

What you have in your shop window Rupert nobody is buying. Falling attendances are testament to that.
It will be time to re-stock come the January sales.

Nurse come quickly, it's time again for Mr Lowe's medication.

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
12:22pm Wed 12 Nov 08

OK everyone that's at least 5 of you keen for the plan - but you already go!

What about those who don't go...any takers?

Someone needs to coordinate with the club to get the corners opened for that game...we also need some publicity - can The Echo help?

I get the idea that lethargy will rule the day and nothing will happen...I could always try David Luker in the ticket office.

londonsaint, Bromley says...
1:51pm Wed 12 Nov 08

I like your idea Yorkie. I'm not boycotting but I've only been down once so far this season (not including claus' testimonial + I travelled to Cardiff first day at least) so I'll make sure I go for Sheff Wed on the 6th and encourage others to do so.

Traceyf, Southampton says...
2:59pm Wed 12 Nov 08

St.Yorkie wrote:
OK everyone that's at least 5 of you keen for the plan - but you already go! What about those who don't go...any takers? Someone needs to coordinate with the club to get the corners opened for that game...we also need some publicity - can The Echo help? I get the idea that lethargy will rule the day and nothing will happen...I could always try David Luker in the ticket office.
St Yorkie,

It would be nice of your idea came about but do you really think the knuckle draggers, who are so intent on driving the club out of business to get rid of Lowe, will play ball?

Court Jester Crew, Southampton says...
3:34pm Wed 12 Nov 08

Full attendance at the home match with Sheff Weds might appeal to a lot more people but how you can publicise it I'm not too sure. Some of fellow supporters are bound to continue with their boycott. I wonder if the Echo could be persuaded to take up the publicity bit. It would be very noticeable to all that we the supporters of Southampton Football Club are in a position to influence the outcome of the match and we could help financially by our full attendance. I don't suppose The Echo will though unless someone somewhere knows a contact in the Echo to talk to?

St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
4:10pm Wed 12 Nov 08

UPDATE - I made contact with David Luker at the club and asked for the corners to be opened as a gesture to encourage back the fans missing their spiritual homes...here's his response:

Thank you for your email.

We cannot currently agree to open the corners of the ground, as the costs we are saving by keeping them closed simply cannot be ignored. By opening even the blocks 1-3, this would increase Police costs for the game, and this is something we need to keep down. In an ideal world, we would love to make a “gesture” and open them, however, given the clubs well publicised financial situation, this is something we cannot do.

Rather than directing your efforts to the Sheffield Wednesday fixture, you may have read that we have cut prices for the Nottingham Forest game (20th December) to £15 and £5 across the ground. We are hopeful that this reduced price, rather than the opening of corners, will encourage some fans to return as we try and compete with the Christmas £. At the same time, should enough people buy tickets for this game, we will be forced to open the corners to accommodate the extra supporters.

I am sorry I cannot be fully supportive, but I do hope you can see we are trying to the best of our current abilities

So I will hold out until we sell out for the Firest game the weekend before Christmas - a normally poorly attended game due to the festivities - and hope the Itchen North opens.

So if we get the tickets sold for the Sheff Wednesday game - and they open the corners can we transfer there? I'll ask!




Derek of Holbury, Holbury says...
11:49am Thu 13 Nov 08

I REPEAT .......
derek fo holbury, holbury says...
8:52pm Tue 11 Nov 08
St Yorkie,

I secretly think your tongue is so far into your cheek you look almost pornographic.

Anyway, I am up for it, but you were already aware of that fact.

I think the increase (irresppective of results) should be gradual so as not to alarm the club and the stewards. As for having the whole gound - do you really think you would have to go on bended knee to the Lowe fellow? If gates were to sneak up, and advance tickets for a particular match were substancial the whole ground would be available. If you guys hate Lowe and are incensed that he has shut parts of the ground - force him to re-open them by filling the bloody stadium. It's a no brainer isn't it?

I think we give everybody a chance to get used to being back there, and it should therefore be the last match of the year. It would be so good to have a sellout game as we watch Reading's championship hopes take a dent.

Yep - the eternal optomist, but you cannot deny there is a an upturn in the amount of positive thoughts this site is attracting.

You can have whatever glory you wish to extract from this, and you know I will keep the faith. The hope is that you can restore some of yours - genuinely.

Come on you upbeat supporters - where are your positive thoughts. Lets kick this pessimism and gloom out or our club. We are better than this, and history proves we used to have bloody good supporters who appreciated good football, and accepted that although we are basically a small club we could never be knocked for our support of the men/boys in red and white.

So what are you going to do about the dissent you keep hearing, and how strong are your feelings for the once great club of yours. It needs your help boys, or else it will slide into obscurity. Complacency is not an option

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