Listen to the interview with Dave Bassett about Rupert Lowe (From Daily Echo)

LOL

I dont think fans where suggesting he picked the team. What they where saying as they still are is that Rupert Lowe is interfering with team affairs.

The Daily Echo newspaper is getting beyond a joke on how its reporting SFC. PR Spin by the bucket load every week.

I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things.

Now we have 'Patsy Porto' being played like a puppet.

Thank you to the Daily Echo for clarifying the Bassett comments about Lowes interference with team affairs.

It proves that both the Pro Lowe Echo team and or Lowes PR spin team reads this site daily..... good morning boys.

Perhaps the Echo would like to do another piece and interview Lowe on whether he is concerned that thousands of supporters are staying away directly as a result of his involvment with the running of SFC?

Is he not concerned the Wilde and Lowes involvement with SFC is financially damaging the club.

And if you want proof Daily Echo, do a poll, like you have run in the past over topics.

I have been asking for supporters who are boycotting SMS as a result of Lowe and Wildes involvment to drop me an email stating the number of adults and children boycotting.

Its a shame the Echo havent got their finger on the pulse regarding the mood of the fan base and doing something to address this issue.

It seems you cross RL at your peril!!!

This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson.

You didnt per chance get it from SFC ??

I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said.

It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'.

I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange.

Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

By Chance, Mr Bassett, would you like to clarify the situation, or SFC's Lawyers will be down on you like a ton of bricks. Here is the Daily Echo's Sports Editor's Telephone Number..02380..etc, etc,

UTS wrote:
LOL I dont think fans where suggesting he picked the team. What they where saying as they still are is that Rupert Lowe is interfering with team affairs. The Daily Echo newspaper is getting beyond a joke on how its reporting SFC. PR Spin by the bucket load every week. I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things. Now we have 'Patsy Porto' being played like a puppet.

Please could you reel off the list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? I'm sure we'd all be interested to read it.

The trouble is Lowe gets everyone who leaves the club to sign a confidentiality clause, so they cant tell the fans what is really going on behind the scenes.

Only people with something to hide would want to gag former employees with this type of contract.

John le Fleming wrote:

UTS wrote: LOL I dont think fans where suggesting he picked the team. What they where saying as they still are is that Rupert Lowe is interfering with team affairs. The Daily Echo newspaper is getting beyond a joke on how its reporting SFC. PR Spin by the bucket load every week. I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things. Now we have 'Patsy Porto' being played like a puppet.

Please could you reel off the list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? I'm sure we'd all be interested to read it.

There have been so many managers is Lowes unhappy reign we have all lost count. We use to be an example of stability, but under Lowe, we have hired and fired more times than McDonalds in Shirley!!!

Right. So nobody is going to name anyone then. Do you think this might undermine your argument a little?

UTS wrote:
This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson.

You didnt per chance get it from SFC ??

I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said.

It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'.

I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange.

Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

I'd also be interested to hear of an ex-manager who has been critical of Lowe.

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote: This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson. You didnt per chance get it from SFC ?? I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said. It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'. I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange. Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

Does it ?

I dont think it does at all.

You doubt probably work for Echo.

The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda. They are NOT going anywhere near the real concerns at SFC. They are scared to print what fans are thinking.

If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote: This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson. You didnt per chance get it from SFC ?? I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said. It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'. I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange. Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

Does it ?

I dont think it does at all.

You doubt probably work for Echo.

The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda. They are NOT going anywhere near the real concerns at SFC. They are scared to print what fans are thinking.

If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

Haha, good one.

Someone says something you don't agree with so they must be a plant!

Perhaps you need to actually think about what you are saying. The Bassett interview is there for anyone to listen to now. Have you? It certainly doesn't seem like it.

What next, I must be Rupert Lowe, I guess?

I think RL should have a say regarding team selection. Why not you would if you owned the club.

John le Fleming wrote:
Right. So nobody is going to name anyone then. Do you think this might undermine your argument a little?

Not really John Le Fleming. You have to on a different planet if you think everything is/has/and will be rosy with SFC under Lowes control.

There is always someone who knows past and current players and managers who spill the beans unofficially on developments within the club.

Unless you are blind and it has escaped your notice, we have had over a decade of Lowe control which has seen some good decisions but more recently since 2003 poor decisions that have put us in this current position.

Under investment in the team when in the Premiership.

Creating further instablility after Srachan by appointing Sturrock, only to sack him a few games into a new season (after a home win).

Replacing Sturrock with Wigley, an experiment which failed previously with Gray.... does the man never learn.

The dressing room was split spirit wise after the Sturrock sacking, I know this from first hand comment from one of our ex players. There were some players that were against the sacking and some for.

With a split dressing room, a strong man manager was needed to unite the playing staff again..... we got Wigley and that was a disaster.

Wigley was appointed because Lowe, it has been suggested, likes to tell managers to play the youngsters.

Why? Because he spends a million quid a year on the academy so he can bring through the next Walcott or Bale. And these youngsters are being developed in the shop window of bigger clubs so Lowe can get his hands on a healthy return.

Lowe is a business man, its a money making machine. He doesnt care about football or our club. He doesnt understand what it means for local people to see local lads come through and play for their side, perhaps for life like Le Tiss, Dodd etc.

Redknapp was brought in too late to try and save us from the drop but disappeared at the first opportunity after relegation when Lowe decided to interfere by bringing in a non league coach and a former rugby coach?

What a joke. What does Lowe know about football?

I dont doubt Lowes business talent but he should employ and trust football people to advise him on football matters. What Lowe fails to realise is there is a difference between a good football decision and a business decision.

An example is Fitz Hall. Signed for 250,000 and sold by Lowe shortly after for a £1mil profit. Great piece of business Lowe quoted in the Echo (I keep scrap books for my sad sins) but a rubbish football decision as Saints let in goals for fun that season. We ended up wasting the profit on Jaccobson and Yhia.

I really could go on. The point of this divide and debate amongst saints fans is some feel Lowe has no understanding of football and has put us in this position. Why should we trust him going forward.

I dont and thousands like me also feel the same.

So unless you are fan, family memeber, friend or employee of Lowe you should be open to the fact that some people care so much about SFC they are prepared to boycott as a last desperate resort for change.

If the only thing dividing the fan base is Lowe and Wilde, who need them. Its not as if they have invested personal money into the club or have brought us success!!!

If you are boycotting SMS because of Lowe and Wilde, drop me an email stating the number of adults and children.

UTS. Good to see you back. Got that list of names yet?

O come off it UTS. Do you not think that if you were a young reporter eager to prove yourself and you had some genuine dirt about RL that could prove potentially explosive then you wouldn't move heaven and earth to make it stick? Such a story would be a fast-track ticket to work on the sports pages for the nationals.

But perhaps the reason these scandalous stories aren't being broken is not because there's a media conspiracy but because they're unfounded.

In fact, if Lowe wanted to he could quite easily sue the Echo for publishing fan comments that suggest he's furtively lining his own pockets with the proceeds from selling players. The Echo is being quite bold to even let many of you have a say.

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote: This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson. You didnt per chance get it from SFC ?? I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said. It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'. I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange. Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

Does it ? I dont think it does at all. You doubt probably work for Echo. The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda. They are NOT going anywhere near the real concerns at SFC. They are scared to print what fans are thinking. If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

Haha, good one. Someone says something you don't agree with so they must be a plant! Perhaps you need to actually think about what you are saying. The Bassett interview is there for anyone to listen to now. Have you? It certainly doesn't seem like it. What next, I must be Rupert Lowe, I guess?

Well my friend i know someone who actually listend to the interview 'live' There are things missing that where broadcast 'live.

Maybe you want to email Mr Simpson why that is the case.

Also my main gripe was the fact that the thrust of this piece is misleading. Fans have been accusing Lowe of 'interfernce' not 'picking the team' as Mr Simpson makes out.

In the print version that 'Lowe does NOT pick the team gets a nice big bold lettering. All OTT and like i said its not what fans where saying.

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote: This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson. You didnt per chance get it from SFC ?? I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said. It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'. I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange. Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

Does it ? I dont think it does at all. You doubt probably work for Echo. The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda. They are NOT going anywhere near the real concerns at SFC. They are scared to print what fans are thinking. If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

Haha, good one. Someone says something you don't agree with so they must be a plant! Perhaps you need to actually think about what you are saying. The Bassett interview is there for anyone to listen to now. Have you? It certainly doesn't seem like it. What next, I must be Rupert Lowe, I guess?

Well my friend i know someone who actually listend to the interview 'live' There are things missing that where broadcast 'live.

Maybe you want to email Mr Simpson why that is the case.

Also my main gripe was the fact that the thrust of this piece is misleading. Fans have been accusing Lowe of 'interfernce' not 'picking the team' as Mr Simpson makes out.

In the print version that 'Lowe does NOT pick the team gets a nice big bold lettering. All OTT and like i said its not what fans where saying.

1. Make outlandish claims.
2. Make outlandish accusations.
3. Have claims blown out of the water.
4. Move goal posts.
5. Lie.

I think this just about covers the content of your posts on this story.

John le Fleming wrote:
UTS. Good to see you back. Got that list of names yet?

What names do you want ?

Lowe interference managers ?

Maybe its easier to say ones that might have stood up to him more and not had 'some level' of interference.

The list then ...............






None

What a crock of sh*te...

Berty Bassett insinuating our great leader interferes with football matters. I think he was just jealous because of his working class background, and the fact he took the crazy gang at Wimbledon so far.

I wonder how Rupert would feel if Berty rolled up in a beaten up old mini at the polo club and started telling everyone quad bikes would be more cost effective than thoroughbred polo ponies?

Gosh all seems reasonable to me - my Chairman is always telling me what I should be doing. Then again he has a lot of good ideas and understands the industry I work in - so it's good advice.

I really feel as though deperation is starting to hit home in the oak panelled rooms in SMS - bring it on!

UTS wrote:

John le Fleming wrote: UTS. Good to see you back. Got that list of names yet?

What names do you want ? Lowe interference managers ? Maybe its easier to say ones that might have stood up to him more and not had 'some level' of interference. The list then ............... None

In your first post you said "I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things."

I've asked you three times to provide this list but you have declined the invitations. What conclusions do you think people will draw from this?

Mr Lowe, have you noticed how well Nigel Pearson i doing at leicester?

John le Fleming wrote:

UTS wrote:

John le Fleming wrote: UTS. Good to see you back. Got that list of names yet?

What names do you want ? Lowe interference managers ? Maybe its easier to say ones that might have stood up to him more and not had 'some level' of interference. The list then ............... None

In your first post you said "I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things." I've asked you three times to provide this list but you have declined the invitations. What conclusions do you think people will draw from this?

John ive just told you !

They ALL have to various levels !!!

Thanks. So you're saying that every manager since 1997 got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? Now forgive me if I ask one more question but, in the interest of us all raising our knowledge to the level of yours, could you point me towards the interviews or articles in which all (or any) of them are on the record as saying this?

So where's that 23-30m quid we got for the sales of Beattie, Crouch, Walcott and Bale?? It can't be said that it's gone to pay debts. Every club has got massive debts and are not likely to pay them off, ever!

The cr*p we got in to replace them over the last 2-3 years has been dire. All this money saving business and playing the kids coz they're cheap is utter rubbish.

That money earnt for those players has either gone into the board's pockets or where is it?

My security password is : deny-club.
Is that something that Lowe will continue to do, deny the club?

Barcelona Saint wrote:
So where's that 23-30m quid we got for the sales of Beattie, Crouch, Walcott and Bale?? It can't be said that it's gone to pay debts. Every club has got massive debts and are not likely to pay them off, ever! The cr*p we got in to replace them over the last 2-3 years has been dire. All this money saving business and playing the kids coz they're cheap is utter rubbish. That money earnt for those players has either gone into the board's pockets or where is it? My security password is : deny-club. Is that something that Lowe will continue to do, deny the club?

Please can I come and live in your world where debts don't have to be repaid, ever?

Have you thought of looking at the plc accounts which show quite clearly where the money has gone?

In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

John le Fleming wrote:
Thanks. So you're saying that every manager since 1997 got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? Now forgive me if I ask one more question but, in the interest of us all raising our knowledge to the level of yours, could you point me towards the interviews or articles in which all (or any) of them are on the record as saying this?

Are you Derek from Holbury?

UTS you really are a sad, bitter and twisted individual. The point is, you have this irrational hatred of one or two members of the board at SFC and it is clouding your judgment, or would do if you had any.

I would really like to see things from your point of view but I can’t seem to get my head that far up my ar$e. You appear to have an IQ of around 2, shame it takes 3 to grunt!

Unfortunately as there is no vaccine against stupidity we will have to put up with the bigoted, misinformed, anti-SFC propaganda that you spew forth from your keyboard. Why let the facts get in the way when you can post unsubstantiated garbage.

And do you know what the saddest aspect of your irrelevant little life is; you actually want the SFC youngster to fail. You love it when they lose so that you can produce more vitriolic rubbish. How can an individual who wants a team to lose call themselves a fan? There is still time for you to get a life, get down to SMS and support the youngsters. You won’t will you? I’m wasting my time on you. Tell you what, I feel sorry for you, honest I do, very, very sorry you poor sap.

COYR

worried of e sussex wrote:
Mr Lowe, have you noticed how well Nigel Pearson i doing at leicester?

Pearsons record at SFC with an experienced squad was about the same as JP's current points total !!! Work it out for yourself.

However,as the bank was calling the shots the 350K Pearson wanted from SFC to sign a new contract was a no no. Leicester have been able to retain the squad from last season so they were always favorites to bounce back up from the pub league they now play in.

LOWE OUT, And take your Dutch boyfriends with you.

TSS wrote:
In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS,

UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

John le Fleming wrote:

Barcelona Saint wrote: So where's that 23-30m quid we got for the sales of Beattie, Crouch, Walcott and Bale?? It can't be said that it's gone to pay debts. Every club has got massive debts and are not likely to pay them off, ever! The cr*p we got in to replace them over the last 2-3 years has been dire. All this money saving business and playing the kids coz they're cheap is utter rubbish. That money earnt for those players has either gone into the board's pockets or where is it? My security password is : deny-club. Is that something that Lowe will continue to do, deny the club?

Please can I come and live in your world where debts don't have to be repaid, ever? Have you thought of looking at the plc accounts which show quite clearly where the money has gone?

No, I haven't seen the plc accounts, please enlighten me.

When are Chelsea and Man U gonna pay off their 730M debts?? The answer, never.

We are all living in a indebted world. All the money we own or clubs is actually debts. Our capitalist world is one big debt. So we're not gonna pay it off any time soon nor anyone. Watch the film Zeitgeist.

People need to start getting behind the team, need to face the facts that lowe is not going anywhere and that the team are trying there hardest every match.
COYR

John le Fleming wrote:
Thanks. So you're saying that every manager since 1997 got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? Now forgive me if I ask one more question but, in the interest of us all raising our knowledge to the level of yours, could you point me towards the interviews or articles in which all (or any) of them are on the record as saying this?

You obviously dont understand how Lowe works and what makes him tick. I havent got the time to rattle it all off.

St Retford wrote:
O come off it UTS. Do you not think that if you were a young reporter eager to prove yourself and you had some genuine dirt about RL that could prove potentially explosive then you wouldn't move heaven and earth to make it stick? Such a story would be a fast-track ticket to work on the sports pages for the nationals. But perhaps the reason these scandalous stories aren't being broken is not because there's a media conspiracy but because they're unfounded. In fact, if Lowe wanted to he could quite easily sue the Echo for publishing fan comments that suggest he's furtively lining his own pockets with the proceeds from selling players. The Echo is being quite bold to even let many of you have a say.

The Daily Echo are in bed with Wilde and Lowe.

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote:

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote: This is not the FULL radio dialogue either Gordon Simpson. You didnt per chance get it from SFC ?? I presume you will be issuing a full apology to fans for misleading what they have said. It is 'inteference' not 'Lowe picks the team'. I must question your journalistic pedigree. You and Adam Leitch are pumping out biast stuff which is all very strange. Whats the catch Gordon/Adam ?

Seeing as the Echo have put up the mp3 to listen to, it sort of makes you seem a little silly.

Does it ? I dont think it does at all. You doubt probably work for Echo. The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda. They are NOT going anywhere near the real concerns at SFC. They are scared to print what fans are thinking. If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

Haha, good one. Someone says something you don't agree with so they must be a plant! Perhaps you need to actually think about what you are saying. The Bassett interview is there for anyone to listen to now. Have you? It certainly doesn't seem like it. What next, I must be Rupert Lowe, I guess?

Well my friend i know someone who actually listend to the interview 'live' There are things missing that where broadcast 'live. Maybe you want to email Mr Simpson why that is the case. Also my main gripe was the fact that the thrust of this piece is misleading. Fans have been accusing Lowe of 'interfernce' not 'picking the team' as Mr Simpson makes out. In the print version that 'Lowe does NOT pick the team gets a nice big bold lettering. All OTT and like i said its not what fans where saying.

1. Make outlandish claims. 2. Make outlandish accusations. 3. Have claims blown out of the water. 4. Move goal posts. 5. Lie. I think this just about covers the content of your posts on this story.

Ive not made any of your points.

The article is misleading to suggest fans where saying 'Lowe Picks The Team'. Like i said its the general 'interfenece theme'.

I am also aware like i stated this claim 'full interview' is total fabrication. There are a number of things which have been edited out.

Everything ive said is 100% fact and ask any clued up person at SFC what ive said they will back me right up.

Gordon Simpson has made a right idiot of himself. But i suspect its SFC pulling his strings.

TSS wrote:
In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

I would forget about daft books as they are worthless. Especially when it comes to WGS. He had enough of football board politics at Coventry that drove him to the brink of a nervous breakdown. He steers well clear of anything stirring. He knows how the media work and newspapers in particular. He's a very clued up person and has indeed commented that Lowe was telling him to pay xyz and that he ignored him.

Lowe loves stirring things in the media via his mate at the daily mail for example. But when the shoe is on the other foot hes straight on the phone to his lawyers with threats. I suspect Bassett and talksport had thet treatment. In the past the Daily Echo and Radio Solent have had calls from Lowe moaning about coverage and not towing his line.

Thats all 100% FACT

miltonarchers wrote:
UTS you really are a sad, bitter and twisted individual. The point is, you have this irrational hatred of one or two members of the board at SFC and it is clouding your judgment, or would do if you had any. I would really like to see things from your point of view but I can’t seem to get my head that far up my ar$e. You appear to have an IQ of around 2, shame it takes 3 to grunt! Unfortunately as there is no vaccine against stupidity we will have to put up with the bigoted, misinformed, anti-SFC propaganda that you spew forth from your keyboard. Why let the facts get in the way when you can post unsubstantiated garbage. And do you know what the saddest aspect of your irrelevant little life is; you actually want the SFC youngster to fail. You love it when they lose so that you can produce more vitriolic rubbish. How can an individual who wants a team to lose call themselves a fan? There is still time for you to get a life, get down to SMS and support the youngsters. You won’t will you? I’m wasting my time on you. Tell you what, I feel sorry for you, honest I do, very, very sorry you poor sap. COYR

Im wondering should i reply to this total garbage ?

Im like thousands of other fans that know the biggest problem at SFC is Rupert Lowe. There is plenty of evidence over the years. Lets not forget the icing on the cake was him personally relegating the club with woeful incompetence with three managers in one season.

Unsurprisingly lets play the 'insult' card as you having nothing of note to say.

Anti-sfc ?? LOL

You really are sounding like a typical Lowe luvvie.


What SFC youngster ? I have not got a clue what your talking about !

I love it when they lose ! LOL

Im not putting my money into Lowes pockets to pay his wages to screw up Southampton FC.

The whole thing since Lowe has returned is a total disaster. Total incompetene all over the place. A sunday pub manager from some dutch amateur club. No experienced loans to cover the empty backline. Playing a number of players that are not ready.

I could go on and on but in the meantime we are in relegation battle from day 1 of the season.

All of that is courtesy of rupert Lowe and his megalowemaniac brain.

Traceyf wrote:

TSS wrote: In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS, UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false.

You are just gullible and believe all the spin thats thrown out.

Email Gordon Simpson and ask him why he is saying its the FULL interview when its NOT.

miltonarchers wrote:

worried of e sussex wrote: Mr Lowe, have you noticed how well Nigel Pearson i doing at leicester?

Pearsons record at SFC with an experienced squad was about the same as JP's current points total !!! Work it out for yourself. However,as the bank was calling the shots the 350K Pearson wanted from SFC to sign a new contract was a no no. Leicester have been able to retain the squad from last season so they were always favorites to bounce back up from the pub league they now play in.

Well lets look at Pearson he arrived after the Burley debacle. Unfit players with no motivation. He somehow managed to steer certain relegation around. You can only judge Pearson with a pre season his own assistants and his own team.

Can you imagine Porto coming in end of Feb ! We would of been relegated way before the end of it !

Sorry the Pearson wage stuff is total garbage. We could afford him no problem. However Lowe had been engaging with the dutch for a number of months. Portos agent was a Lowe guest at the Ipswich game.

So you say we cant afford him yet spend £500k on a player weeks later ! LOL

Dont fall into the lies that are spread by people.

Leicester are by no means simply going to bounce back either. There are several teams that will fight it out.

The majority of fans thought Pearson was worthy of a shot doing it his way. We now have a clueless amateur coach who is way out of his depth.

UTS wrote:

Traceyf wrote:

TSS wrote: In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS, UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false.

You are just gullible and believe all the spin thats thrown out.

Email Gordon Simpson and ask him why he is saying its the FULL interview when its NOT.

Is it not the full interview? You don't know - you didn't hear it. Although you claim to know people who did.

Here's an idea - if you are so certain of what you claim (that this is an edited version of the interview) why don't you get the full interview from talkSPORT and post a link to it for us all? I'm sure they have contact details on their site. Ring them up or email them and ask for a clip of the full interview.

Go on, rather than throwing out random accusations go and get some proof of your wild claims. I dare you.

has anybody else had enough of UTS and his lowe conspiracys you talk like he runs the world. what proof have you got that he makes the DE put out propaganda.

Bambi wrote:

UTS wrote:

Traceyf wrote:

TSS wrote: In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS, UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false. You are just gullible and believe all the spin thats thrown out. Email Gordon Simpson and ask him why he is saying its the FULL interview when its NOT.

Is it not the full interview? You don't know - you didn't hear it. Although you claim to know people who did. Here's an idea - if you are so certain of what you claim (that this is an edited version of the interview) why don't you get the full interview from talkSPORT and post a link to it for us all? I'm sure they have contact details on their site. Ring them up or email them and ask for a clip of the full interview. Go on, rather than throwing out random accusations go and get some proof of your wild claims. I dare you.

Oh ive tried that and been told i cant have it !

Here are some of the things that have been edited out and thus not the 'full interview'

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Just to put the record straight, as I was one of those that heard the original broadcast...

I was asked my opinion of the Echo article on another site,and whether anything was missing? I replied thus..

At first glance it seems as if somethings are missing, and/or are in a different chronological order.
One or two things that are attributed to Kelly, were actually said by Basset.
I see no reference to the week in, week out phrase that WAS USED!
In the transcipt the reference to Woodward and Clifford is missing (Rupert got two of his buddies in from non league and another sport bit)

Yet he feels the need to defend that in the prelude, which is strange.

But hey, it looks like Basset and Talksport have come under some pressure, so maybe it got to someone. Not exactly a retraction though!

LATER I ADDED..
I have just noticed the bit about previous managers advising him not apply for the job is missing as well.
At no time was it suggested that Lowe did pick the team, but the question of him interfering, or trying to interfere in the make up of the team is still very much there, even with 48 hours to edit it.

TSS wrote:
has anybody else had enough of UTS and his lowe conspiracys you talk like he runs the world. what proof have you got that he makes the DE put out propaganda.

Ahh not just me im afraid !!

The proof is there in numerous articles since May of this year.

Burnsbag wrote:
I'd also be interested to hear of an ex-manager who has been critical of Lowe.

I know I'm getting old, but I seem to remember Lowe's very first manager, Graeme Souness, leaving and being critical of Lowe.
I'm fairly sure that Souness accused Lowe of having lied to him over the size of the transfer fund he would have in the close season, giving it as one of the reasons why he was quitting.
Maybe getting a job in Italy was one other reason, but if he did say what I think he said, he wasn't sued for defamation or slander which is an option Lowe has taken with others he feels have made false accusations about him.

Confidentiality agreements may explain why there have been no further outbursts from departing managers, some who may have had a lot to say, such as Jones, Gray, Wigley & Sturrock.

Alternatively every manager that has left SFC has done so feeling very happy with the way they were treated by the Chairman, which would be an incredible feat of man management in an arena where there are so many opinionated & strongwilled managers.

The simple fact is this.

We DON'T know if confidentiality agreements have been entered into or not, and if they have been, we are never likely to find out without someone risking court action.

So it's up to the individual to believe what he likes.

Some Clutch wrote:
I think RL should have a say regarding team selection. Why not you would if you owned the club.

your username about sums you up!!!
no if i was chairman the manager would pick the team not me or anyone else.

UTS wrote:

Traceyf wrote:

TSS wrote: In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS, UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false. You are just gullible and believe all the spin thats thrown out. Email Gordon Simpson and ask him why he is saying its the FULL interview when its NOT.

Well UTS, if you dont see the point in posting things that are false could you try explaining why you post gibberish?

UTS wrote:

John le Fleming wrote:
Thanks. So you're saying that every manager since 1997 got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? Now forgive me if I ask one more question but, in the interest of us all raising our knowledge to the level of yours, could you point me towards the interviews or articles in which all (or any) of them are on the record as saying this?

You obviously dont understand how Lowe works and what makes him tick. I havent got the time to rattle it all off.

You haven't got time? Given that you have posted 15 times on this story alone, methinks its a clue you are missing rather than time. Its always the same when someone pins you down – no answer, just sweeping assertions with no evidence.

A couple of days ago, a few people floated the idea of all the “on principle” stayaways turning up for a single match (Notts Forest with reduced ticker prices seemed a good option) to show Lowe how and doubters like me how many of you there are out there are. Will you go for that, yes or no?

Why are we missing the first 50 seconds of the interview?

Perhaps we can have a debate once we have all heard the FULL transcript of the interview.

Traceyf wrote:

UTS wrote:

Traceyf wrote:

TSS wrote: In gordon strachan`s book, he talks about rupert lowe, he does not mention interfering with team. He does say he wished lowe would have spent a bit more money on players he had the chance to buy louis saha and malbranque for around 10 mill but lowe said no.

TSS, UTS doesn't let a little thing like fact get in the way of his anti Lowe rants

Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false. You are just gullible and believe all the spin thats thrown out. Email Gordon Simpson and ask him why he is saying its the FULL interview when its NOT.

Well UTS, if you dont see the point in posting things that are false could you try explaining why you post gibberish?

So me pointing out that the article is misleading is gibberish !

Ive emailed Mr Simpson and he has failed to reply.

Ive posted the missing parts that where on the live broadcast.


I find it somewhat amusing that people are so dumb they cant see it ! Maybe i shouldnt be surprised though as these same people are happy Lowe has screwed SFC for eleven years.


Hurry up Gordon with your reply and the missing 'edits'

Also you should be issuing an apology to Saints fans for claiming they suggested 'Lowe Picks the team' when in fact their main gripe is Lowe 'interfering' in team affairs.

F Fan wrote:

UTS wrote:

John le Fleming wrote: Thanks. So you're saying that every manager since 1997 got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things? Now forgive me if I ask one more question but, in the interest of us all raising our knowledge to the level of yours, could you point me towards the interviews or articles in which all (or any) of them are on the record as saying this?

You obviously dont understand how Lowe works and what makes him tick. I havent got the time to rattle it all off.

You haven't got time? Given that you have posted 15 times on this story alone, methinks its a clue you are missing rather than time. Its always the same when someone pins you down – no answer, just sweeping assertions with no evidence. A couple of days ago, a few people floated the idea of all the “on principle” stayaways turning up for a single match (Notts Forest with reduced ticker prices seemed a good option) to show Lowe how and doubters like me how many of you there are out there are. Will you go for that, yes or no?

Ive answered your question end of.

No i will not be putting money in Lowes wages to screw SFC up more.

God i hate to think where we will be come Dec 20th !

I think we should all applaud UTS for his performance today. He was up especially early this morning to post his first submission at 0839am and then followed with a further post at 0918am. He paused for a few hours to take stock and then made futher contributions at
1.18pm,
1.26pm,
3.37pm,
3.38pm,
3.43pm,
3.49pm,
3.59pm,
4.01pm,
4.07pm,
4.20pm,
4.22pm - - - and then presumably fell asleep exhausted. I wonder if he has any other interests?

At least Loweout@hotmail.co.u
k (disappointingly only 4 submissions today)is trying to be constructive in his endeavours to count the number of supportive emails he has received. I note with interest, by the way, that he has asked for children to be included in the count. Perhaps he could update us on the number of emails of support he has received so far. Again it will help to bring a sense of perspective to the debate.

Dr Who wrote:
I think we should all applaud UTS for his performance today. He was up especially early this morning to post his first submission at 0839am and then followed with a further post at 0918am. He paused for a few hours to take stock and then made futher contributions at 1.18pm, 1.26pm, 3.37pm, 3.38pm, 3.43pm, 3.49pm, 3.59pm, 4.01pm, 4.07pm, 4.20pm, 4.22pm - - - and then presumably fell asleep exhausted. I wonder if he has any other interests? At least Loweout@hotmail.co.u k (disappointingly only 4 submissions today)is trying to be constructive in his endeavours to count the number of supportive emails he has received. I note with interest, by the way, that he has asked for children to be included in the count. Perhaps he could update us on the number of emails of support he has received so far. Again it will help to bring a sense of perspective to the debate.

Yes lets ignore the subject matter and ridicule the messengar !

Lowe would love you mush !

I imagine Gordon Simpson has handed in his resignation letter today.

Oh UTS, you are a tonic. Better than any stand up comic and I don't have to pay. You once used to annoy me, but now I see just how rediculous your comments are, it just provides mild amusement now.

YOU SAID - dont think fans where suggesting he picked the team. What they where saying as they still are is that Rupert Lowe is interfering with team affairs.

TRY READING EARLIER POSTS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES ON THIS SITE THAT HE PICKED THE TEAM

YOU SAID - I can reel off a list of past managers who got fed up with Lowe sticking his oar into things

YOU SAY IT BUT YOU FAILED TO DO IT AND WHERE IS YOUR PROOF

YOU SAID - If you believe whats written in the DE or this website than well what can one say !

I BET YOU BELIEVED ALL UNBELIEVABLY BIASED ANTI LOWE LETTERS THAT WERE PRINTED INCESSANTLY LEADING UP TO HIS DEPARTURE LAST TIME ROUND. IF WE ARE NOT TO BELIEVE WHAT FANS ARE WRITING ON THIS WEBSITE - DOES THAT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT BELIEVE YOU THEN - OR IS IT THAT YOU ARE NOT A FAN?

YOU SAID - Well my friend i know someone who actually listend to the interview 'live'

HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE GOOD OLD UTS FAVOURITE - I KNOW A FRIEND WHO KNOWS THIS BLOKE WHO WORKS NEXT DOOR TO A MAN ETC. ETC

YOU SAID - You obviously dont understand how Lowe works and what makes him tick

WHAT - AND YOU DO? TELL ME MY LEARNED FRIEND, EXACTLY WHERE DID YOU QUALIFY IN THIS FIELD

YOU SAID - I havent got the time to rattle it all off.

YOU CERTAINLY SEEM TO HAVE THE TIME TO CONTINUALLY COME ONTO THIS SIGHT WITH YOUR PATHETIC ASSUMPTIONS AND GUESSWORK

YOU SAID - I would forget about daft books as they are worthless. Especially when it comes to WGS

YES, I THINK I SEE APATTERN UNFOLDING HERE. IF ANYONE (WGS OR THE ECHO OR THE MAIL)WRITE SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY OPPOSITE TO THE TRASH YOU TALK IT IS ALL ABSOLUTE RUBBISH

YOU SAID - Lowe loves stirring things in the media via his mate at the daily mail for example

COVERED THIS POINT ABOVE

YOU SAID - I suspect Bassett and talksport had thet treatment

YET MORE OF YOUR GUESSWORK??

YOU SAID - Sorry Tracey i cant see the point in posting things which are false

NO - YOU JUST PREFER TO MAKE IT UP, OVERHEAR WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING OR SIMPLY GUESS. OH, I FORGOT THOSE EXTRA SPECIAL POWERS YOU HAVE TO READ PEOPLES MINDS

YOU SAID - The Daily Echo newspaper is getting beyond a joke on how its reporting SFC. PR Spin by the bucket load every week.

You didnt per chance get it from SFC ??

The fact is the daily echo are in bed with Lowe and Wilde and pumping out weekly propaganda

You doubt probably work for Echo.

The Daily Echo are in bed with Wilde and Lowe

Gordon Simpson has made a right idiot of himself. But i suspect its SFC pulling his strings.

You are such a paranoid little man, and one who should be very careful, because you are walking very close to being slanderous, and that is punishable by law. Surely you cannot keep coming onto a site run by the Echo and continually slate them, as well as make accusations that they are being bought off by the Chairman of SFC. Very risky I would say.

However, lets assume that Mr Lowe has all this clout, and can just keep on paying all these managers, and press reporters, and radio presenters, to do what he says or to keep their traps shut. This then is probably the reason why we are so strapped for cash and cannot afford to buy decent players and a super manager. Hmmm makes sense when you put it that way.

Get real man, or take your snivelling to another site because the vast majority of posters here are sick and tired of your whining

Derek you are clueless and its a total waste of time entering any dialogue with you.

This article has been outed as being misleading and edited.

The Daily Echo sports journalists are running in cahoots with Wilde/Lowe since May. Loads of people are saying this not just me.

Lowes Nemisis wrote:
Why are we missing the first 50 seconds of the interview? Perhaps we can have a debate once we have all heard the FULL transcript of the interview.

if you listen to the clip the first 50 are about david norris and the prem. the echo have everythig else verbatim

UTS,

You say I am clueless, which coming from you is really hard to take. I do not personally feel I am clueless and I am confident that if a poll were to be taken on this very site to judge which of us should carry that title - I believe you would win it hands down. Let the people decide, lets have your votes people.

I went to great length to take statements made from you on just this story, in order that I highlight your crazy rantings and what do you do - come back with a one liner about the story being misleading and edited. I do not know whether it is or not and frankly my dear I do not give a toss. For your information Mr Lowe is not the only scallywag who can lie, distort, fabricate and embellish. I hate to break this to you but some managers and people of the press have also done this on the odd occasion. Now I know the Mr Bassett (seeing how he is saying things you like) cannot possibly be one of these, and we all know him as a straight talking, no nonsense, upright pillar of the community sort of an alight guy, so he must be telling the truth, and have no axe to grind.

Why the hell when someone asks you direct questions or takes you to task over things you have said, do you not just simply come back and answer those questions. Do you even take the trouble to read what is said about you?

As for loads of people saying this as you state (more guessing) sorry mate you are plain wrong on this one. I keep hearing you bleat on about it, and perhaps the odd one or two of your mates on this site, but other than that there is a deafening silence. Unless of course you are hearing voices in your head. Now that adds up doesn't it.

Bambi, you surely cannot be corect. A friend of the milkman who delivers to the brother in law of a bloke that UTS knows, told him there are lots of really bad things that have been left out of the clip, and those very naughty people at the Echo have been given millions by that cad Lowe to doctor it up a little.

Not sure who I should believe now.

I heard it live too, there are bits missing, and bits shuffled around.
Basset did say live that Lowe got in two buddies etc.
We have all known for years that Rupes rules his kingdom with an iron fist. Even in this shortened version you can see he puts managers under severe duress to come round to his way of thinking.
Otherwise its bye bye and a fat fee for keeeping quiet.

Dear Rupert,

What a tidy little relationship you have with Stoke City. First you arrange to play them in a pre-season friendly. Then you take their manager's son on loan, probably never to play first team football and now you propose to sell them Andrew Surman in January.

Nurse come quickly, it's time again for Mr Lowe's medication.

Just an idle thought I know, and not much chance of success, but I was wondering if we could actually get back to talking about football. Will probably be accused of being an old fogey, but I can honestly remember when fans went to matches and came back to spend all their time talking about the football, until they went back to the next game. We would discuss the win or the loss or the draw, and praise or slag off various players. Sometimes we would give the manager stick or moan about the catering, or perhaps even discuss the opposition and their players or supporters.

We were a pretty happy bunch of fans in those days and were fully aware that we supported a small team in terms of the overall league set up.

We believed though, that we were the best team in the league and we could not be beaten in terms of the support we gave.

Shame we cannot just get back to supporting football, and the players who wear our shirts with pride

All the rest is damaging us so much as a club. Sad times indeed

saintvic wrote:
I heard it live too, there are bits missing, and bits shuffled around.
Basset did say live that Lowe got in two buddies etc.
We have all known for years that Rupes rules his kingdom with an iron fist. Even in this shortened version you can see he puts managers under severe duress to come round to his way of thinking.
Otherwise its bye bye and a fat fee for keeeping quiet.

If you listen to the recording on this webpage, it is obvious nothing has been edited on shuffled around.

BAMBI - YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME. THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TALKING TO ONLY HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, AND ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

THEY THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO TOTALLY TURN IT AROUND TO MAKE IT SUIT THEIR PURPOSES.

GIVE THESE PEOPLE ABSOLUTE FACTS TO OPPOSE THEIR VIEWS AND THEY EITHER GO VERY QUIET OR GO OFF AT A TANGENT TO WHINGE ABOUT ONE OF THEIR OTHER PET GRIPES.

Derek of Holbury, Holbury says...
11:49am Thu 13 Nov 08
I REPEAT .......
derek fo holbury, holbury says...
8:52pm Tue 11 Nov 08
St Yorkie,

I secretly think your tongue is so far into your cheek you look almost pornographic.

Anyway, I am up for it, but you were already aware of that fact.

I think the increase (irresppective of results) should be gradual so as not to alarm the club and the stewards. As for having the whole gound - do you really think you would have to go on bended knee to the Lowe fellow? If gates were to sneak up, and advance tickets for a particular match were substancial the whole ground would be available. If you guys hate Lowe and are incensed that he has shut parts of the ground - force him to re-open them by filling the bloody stadium. It's a no brainer isn't it?

I think we give everybody a chance to get used to being back there, and it should therefore be the last match of the year. It would be so good to have a sellout game as we watch Reading's championship hopes take a dent.

Yep - the eternal optomist, but you cannot deny there is a an upturn in the amount of positive thoughts this site is attracting.

You can have whatever glory you wish to extract from this, and you know I will keep the faith. The hope is that you can restore some of yours - genuinely.

Come on you upbeat supporters - where are your positive thoughts. Lets kick this pessimism and gloom out or our club. We are better than this, and history proves we used to have bloody good supporters who appreciated good football, and accepted that although we are basically a small club we could never be knocked for our support of the men/boys in red and white.

So what are you going to do about the dissent you keep hearing, and how strong are your feelings for the once great club of yours. It needs your help boys, or else it will slide into obscurity. Complacency is not an option

Let's not be nieve enough to believe that Lowe does not interfere with affairs, i think we all know that he has a greater involvment than most Chairmen!

So what?

How about commenting on the team and the boys who are trying their hardest to makes us back into a team that will get us safe this season.

What about being a fan. What about supporting.

What about getting off the boring banwagon with your two mates who keep on singing this song.

You are decreasing in numbers as there are more and more coming on to this site to disparage your views. The people who want to just support their team are growing in number on a daily basis on this site.

Beware - you are going to see this move in to SMS and the support is going to filter back there as well

Bambi wrote:

saintvic wrote: I heard it live too, there are bits missing, and bits shuffled around. Basset did say live that Lowe got in two buddies etc. We have all known for years that Rupes rules his kingdom with an iron fist. Even in this shortened version you can see he puts managers under severe duress to come round to his way of thinking. Otherwise its bye bye and a fat fee for keeeping quiet.

If you listen to the recording on this webpage, it is obvious nothing has been edited on shuffled around.

If you want to believe that, what can I say other than BAA BAAA BAAA.
Your blind faith in Ruperts honesty is why he is able to continue dismantling our club bit by bit.
Our stadium is quickly resembling a sheep pen, less and less baying sheep watching lambs go to their slaughter.
baaa baaaa baaaa

Lowe is a business man, and pours money into the acadamy to sell players for profit.
Nice statement that. Easy to say but what is the point being made. The money does not go into Lowes pocket does it? He only gains from dividends and when he sells the shares.
Again I go to watch the team, you other people really need to go and watch Eastleigh and forget about Saints as I would bet that the likes of UTS would not come back and watch Saints in Division 2 with no Lowe at the helm. I would also bet he would be there in the ground at St Mary's protesting for Lowe out if Saints were in the Premiership. Glory supporter, just buy a Chelsea shirt and be done with it.

In case UTS hasn't provided a list of past managers

08/08Pearson (Contract not renewed)
05/08 Burley (Scotland Job)
04/05 Redknapp (Back to Pompey)
04/04 Wigley (Sacked)
04/04 Sturrock (Sacked)
01/04 Strachen (Time Out)
01/01 Gray (Sacked)
00/01 Hoddle (Spurs Job)
97/00 Jones (Court case)
96/97 Souness (Resigned citing Lowe)
95/96 Merrington (Personal Reasons)
94/95 Ball (Man City Job)
91/94 Branfoot (Sacked)
85/91 Nicholl (Sacked)

saintvic wrote:

Bambi wrote:

saintvic wrote: I heard it live too, there are bits missing, and bits shuffled around. Basset did say live that Lowe got in two buddies etc. We have all known for years that Rupes rules his kingdom with an iron fist. Even in this shortened version you can see he puts managers under severe duress to come round to his way of thinking. Otherwise its bye bye and a fat fee for keeeping quiet.

If you listen to the recording on this webpage, it is obvious nothing has been edited on shuffled around.

If you want to believe that, what can I say other than BAA BAAA BAAA.
Your blind faith in Ruperts honesty is why he is able to continue dismantling our club bit by bit.
Our stadium is quickly resembling a sheep pen, less and less baying sheep watching lambs go to their slaughter.
baaa baaaa baaaa

Actually it's because I'm a sound engineer for the BBC in London. If that clip was tampered with, it'd be obvious. I don't like Rupert Lowe - I just dislike hyperbolic liars such as yourself even more.

If you're so certain I'm wrong, phone up Talk Sport and ask them if that is the full thing.

No-one has yet proved that it isn't, and I doubt very much you can.

Go on, convince me.

BASSETTGATE: DAY TWO. UPDATE.

Right, there's been a breakthrough. I've pulled in a few favours with UTV, the company that owns Talksport, and managed to get hold of a full transcript of the interview. And Christ, I have to say that UTS only HINTS at the horrors that lurk within.

Bassett offers 100% concrete proof that not only does Lowe pick the entire team each week, but that he placed a £50,000 bet with Ladbrooks that we'd get relegated this season. Not only that, but it turns out that Lowe was the mastermind behind the assassination of JFK, the 9/11 attacks and he faked the moonlandings for NASA.

Conspiracy theories are fun in their own little way, but it's dangerous to take them too far. The trouble is it makes you focus on some flight of fancy that is probably nonsense, rather than on something obvious and more important that's staring you in the face.

For example, there's a huge industry of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and the US government is happy about that because it means people are wasting their energy on crackpot theories rather than focusing on the very real crimes of US foreign policy which are all a matter of public record.

In a similar way, people indulge in conspiracy theories about SFC because they think being 'in' on this information means they've joined some sort of secret club, while missing the more important fact that the club is dying on its arse if revenues don't increase. So rather than get to St Mary's and support the team, they moan into their pints about Lowe's secret mission to destroy the club, despite all the evidence to the contrary that can be found at Companies House. I suspect the fans of *****mouth are absolutely delighted by this.

AD74 wrote:
Lowe is a business man, and pours money into the acadamy to sell players for profit. Nice statement that. Easy to say but what is the point being made. The money does not go into Lowes pocket does it? He only gains from dividends and when he sells the shares. Again I go to watch the team, you other people really need to go and watch Eastleigh and forget about Saints as I would bet that the likes of UTS would not come back and watch Saints in Division 2 with no Lowe at the helm. I would also bet he would be there in the ground at St Mary's protesting for Lowe out if Saints were in the Premiership. Glory supporter, just buy a Chelsea shirt and be done with it.

Oh dear ad74 i think you have scored an own goal. Mr Lowe is indeed a business man and not qualified to be involved in football as 11 years of misery shows.

He has never put an ounce into the academy and over 11 years has put in a token couple of hundred grand which was done to buy shares to further strengthen his and cronies dictatorship.

I think someone worked out that Lowe since 1997 had pocketed around £2.5million in salary for the incompetence mess destroying Southampton FC. Since he created relegation the club has lost around £150 million in lost revenue.

Im not interested in pikey eastleigh. Ive been following Saints for 25 years since my early teens. During that period there have been many down points as you will know. But we have now reached the stage where the lifeblood of the club is being destroyed. I am one of many and i can point to fans i know who have been watching Saints since the 1960s and we are all saying the same thing. Core supporters are dissillusioned with Lowe and Judas Wilde.

As for the rest of your drivel i think ive answered you and mullered it all.


Still all this bickering does not hide the fact that Gordon Simpson has misled what fans where saying. There is also a rather big question that this so called Bassett 'Full' talkin sound clip has been doctored and edited.

Fans will not forget this disgrace i can assure you of that.

Bambi and St Retford.

That is just the spirit and response we need to hear more of in response to this deluded minority. Strange really, because I do not usually let the opinions of those with nothing to say get to me, but the three or four that keep coming back do wind me up.

Still, I won't lose my temper and resort to name calling, but continue in the same way as I have for a while now. That is to sing the praises of the team and encourage the lads at every opportunity.

These kids were probably delighted at first to be informed they would be the basis of the team each week, but they did not ask to be fielded each week in a tough division with no real experience around them. What they have exhibited and acheived so far this season is fantastic, and to do it with morons sounding off on websites and in the press is testament to their character. If asny of you guys are reading this take heart, because there are far more people rooting for you than the odd few he keep coming back to try and undermine what you do.

Keep the spirit and we will keep the faith. Hopefully in a short time the weary anti Lowe Brigade will find another cause to try and decimate, and this site will be filled in the main with fans who care and are writing to show it.

Come on you real fans get behind the boys in red and white. This is YOUR club - stand up fo it for Christ's sake

Sorry about that UTS I didn't know that all football chairmen had to have the dual ability to be business men and qualified in football! Is their a qualification? Perhaps there is and perhaps the American owners of Liverpool and Aston Villa have passed it. Oh and hasn't Mike Ashley at Newcastle done a fantastic job. I can't comment on your Monetry statements as I havn't read the finincial reports so don't know if the statements are fact or not. Mind you if you have said it it must be true.

But must commend you on 25 years of continued top flight support of Southampton FC. 25 years of watching Saints play the best teams in the land. As far as the lowe (did you like what I did there!) points the only one is relgation from the top flight and the instant departure of 25% of the fans, mind you they all came back when they thought we may get promoted back to the top flight. Now 50% of the fans are missing. My humble opinion is that the reason people are not coming to watch Saints is not because of Lowe or how the club is run or who is on the pitch but because of who they are playing. I don't care how many people post on web-sites and sign petitions for this and that to happen it is purely down to the fact that they don't want to see Saints v Blackpool etc. Your view of the many low points in the last 25 years have always been accompanied by "Full House" signs. Always better to be rubbish in the premiership playing Man Utd than rubbish in the Championship playing Bristol.

By the way simple question you dismissed as drivel, Lowe out saints in Div 2 playing Milton Keynes would you pay up and watch?


Good to see you have internet access like myself at work to keep abreast of these forums!

I like many fans would pay when Lowe has gone irrespect of what league SFC play in.

Regarding Lowe and being a chairman its the level of input or is that interference that Lowe engages in. He has no qualification for football yet thinks he can be director of football ! Look at the evidence on that mass failure !!

Maybe Lowe should bring back the over inflated rugby coach and non league coach to manage the team !

Still those 'fans' that continue to rate Lowe are merely helping him put the club six feet under

UTS,

Since Lowe has no qualification for football...where does one go to get such a qualification btw?...and since he is also director of football, can you tell me what duties he carries out in that roll? Please don't just answer with your opinion but some fact and the proof to back it up because otherwise you will just be talking gibberish.

Michael Wilde on another fans forum actually stated that Rupert Lowe was proposing himself as the Director of Football and Michael Wilde said he was totally against that and said he would do all he could to prevent that from happening.....given they formed an unholy alliance to gain control once again of SFC what would you conclude has happened since?

Oh and if you feel that Mr Lowe doesn't interfere in team selection ponder this, if he continues to shape the squad by continually selling players is he not by default gerrymandering team selection by his actions!

Lowes Nemisis wrote:
Michael Wilde on another fans forum actually stated that Rupert Lowe was proposing himself as the Director of Football and Michael Wilde said he was totally against that and said he would do all he could to prevent that from happening.....given they formed an unholy alliance to gain control once again of SFC what would you conclude has happened since? Oh and if you feel that Mr Lowe doesn't interfere in team selection ponder this, if he continues to shape the squad by continually selling players is he not by default gerrymandering team selection by his actions!

Ahh LM my friend im the person who had dialogue with MW where he joked that Lowe wanted to be what he is now !!

His actual words.. "RL has not learnt from past mistakes"


Write Simpson you have had long enough where is the missing comments from Bassett that people are saying has been edited out ?

So UTS, You would be happy to drive this club down the divisions by advocating that we all boycott the stadium, just to fuel your hatred of Lowe. Good plan (not) How many true fans who just want to support their team do you really think will give you their support.

Still waiting for you to give us absolute proof when it comes to your ranting about him interfering with the team. Now, I know you must attend every training session, and that you have spies in the stadium, and also an insider on match days in the dressing room, but still you fail to give me anything but hollow words. Help me understand. You may be absolutely right but you are not showing me the evidence.

Ah, Lowes Nemesis - now I can understand where you are coming from.

"unholy alliance" - "gain control" - "gerrymandering" I bet you are a lefty trade unionist - perhaps even shop steward. Either that or you are a would be politician that cannot quite make it.

It certainly explains your militant tendancies and a lot of hot air without actually saying anything.

One point - and I have asked you lot this one so many times without answering.

If you were there at the start of this season instead of Lowe - what would you have done. We had enormous debts and had a truck load of dead wood on stupid salaries. You go on and on about Lowe offloading all these 'wonderful'players and also about his refusal to spend money getting experienced players in. Please enlighten me how you would have done all these things without a magic wand.

I know you cannot answer these questions satisfactorily so I fully expect you to come back with some other nonsense not even related to the questions

Go on - surprise me

Derek of Holbury wrote:
Just an idle thought I know, and not much chance of success, but I was wondering if we could actually get back to talking about football. Will probably be accused of being an old fogey, but I can honestly remember when fans went to matches and came back to spend all their time talking about the football, until they went back to the next game. We would discuss the win or the loss or the draw, and praise or slag off various players. Sometimes we would give the manager stick or moan about the catering, or perhaps even discuss the opposition and their players or supporters. We were a pretty happy bunch of fans in those days and were fully aware that we supported a small team in terms of the overall league set up. We believed though, that we were the best team in the league and we could not be beaten in terms of the support we gave. Shame we cannot just get back to supporting football, and the players who wear our shirts with pride All the rest is damaging us so much as a club. Sad times indeed

Just re read your comments Derek and put it into context.

You say: can we get back to talking about football.....
well, all football matters are dictated by what Lowe wants... Bassett confirmed that he and Woodward was always badgering Redknapp and Bassett on playing youngsters. What has that got to do with either Lowe or Woodward.... they know nothing about football. The average man and woman on the terrace know more about football, because we have lived and slept football since we were small boys and girls and are passionate about the game and the support of our local side.... unlike Lowe/Woodward.

Derek says, I can honestly remember when fans went to matches and came back to spend all their time talking about football!

How right you are Derek, exactly how it should be..... those days wouldnt be pre Lowe days by any chance?????

Derek says, we were a pretty happy bunch of fans in those days.....
again, you are right, why????
Because we were all in the same boat, supporters of SFC, united in our fight against other clubs. Thats what football is about, a tribal thing. Now the main topic of discussion is between fans so concerned about is who is to blame over the the black hole we are falling. If Derek and all the other posters who seem to defend Lowes involvment in the running of SFC have answers to why we are in this mess, then please tell all..... I love a good debate.

Derek says, we believed that we were the best team in the league.... well I have to disagree but we all know that on our day we could beat the best in the land, if we were all pulling in the same direction (take note Lowe). Getting beating by Swansea and other teams in recent times is a sad reflection on what a shambolic mess this club has become under Lowes reign.

Derek says, shame we cannot just get back to supporting football. I say to you Derek we can.. Just get rid of Lowe and Wilde and then there is no reason for any other reason for the divide. If you are against this idea, then you are a fan, employee or family memeber of Lowe.

Unfortuately, this dream world of harmony amongst Saints fans will never exist again whilst Lowe and Wilde is involved. Why, because some fans have come to the conclusion after a decade of his leadership that we are in a worse position than the good old days you are banging on about.

Any as you say, all the rest is damaging us so much, sad times indeed. You know you answer, get rid of the reason for the divide.

If you are not attending SMS as a result of Lowe/Wildes involvement with SFC, drop me an email stating the number of adults and children boycotting.

AD74 wrote:
Lowe is a business man, and pours money into the acadamy to sell players for profit. Nice statement that. Easy to say but what is the point being made. The money does not go into Lowes pocket does it? He only gains from dividends and when he sells the shares. Again I go to watch the team, you other people really need to go and watch Eastleigh and forget about Saints as I would bet that the likes of UTS would not come back and watch Saints in Division 2 with no Lowe at the helm. I would also bet he would be there in the ground at St Mary's protesting for Lowe out if Saints were in the Premiership. Glory supporter, just buy a Chelsea shirt and be done with it.

AD74, you cannot possible say what another supporter would do. Just concentrate on what you feel passionate about.

The issue here is there seems to be basically 3 sets of supporters:-
*Lowe fans, employee, friend or relatives
*SFC fans who couldnt give a monkey who the chairman is and who is in charge. These fans will be concerned with our financial predictiment and are desperately looking for answers.
*SFC fans who care are deeply as the above 2 categories and believe that Lowe and Wilde are have destroyed our club, and SFC will continue a downward spiral under their reign. These fans feel so passionate about this they are willing to boycott attending, which we know will hurt the club.

Unless you are part of Category A, you should be concerned about the feelings of Category C and be open to their concerns.... for the greater good of SFC.

Lowe and Wilde will leave SFC at some stage, guaranteed. What I will also gurantee, is as a life long SFC fan boycotting SMS as a result of Lowe and Wilde, Im not going to suddenly start supporting Eastleigh, Chelsea, Pompey or any other sport.

Im still passionate, still a fan, just trying to get rid of Lowe and Wilde.

Is any fan of SFC really going to tell me that the club would fold with Lowe and Wilde, that no one else can do the job???? I dont think so.

Will the club eventually fold without fans..... I think so......

No Loweout - all football matters are not dictated by what Lowe wants. An assumption made by someone who clearly hates the man and is guessing about what is currently going on behind the scenes.

If you can believe ALL that Bassett says (and I personally cannot) so what. It did not mean that he was insisting they put in the kids. It could have been just light hearted banter with good intentions, that one man took the wrong way. WE WERE NOT THERE

It really does not matter how much these two know about football - their job is the financial side and running a business. How much do you think the owners of Man U, Villa and Liverpool know about English football.

You seem to have conveniently forgotten the FA cup when you talk about the good times being pre Lowe. I have seen lots of wonderful times during Lowes tenure and I include some this season, but you cannot comment on those can you, as you do not go any more.

Sorry mate but for the mainstream fans the fight is still against the other teams and it is a tribal thing - the board and who is on it does not change a thing in that respect.

The main topic of conversation between the fans is NOT about who is to blame, it is only a subject that is perpetuated by just a small section of 'fans' who have decided to stay away from the games. Football and the team is still the main topic for the majority.

Why is it you, and people like you are so quick to be insulting and accuse anyone who does not share your views of being a Lowe luvvy or in bed with him. How many different ways can I try to explain that I have no affinity or affection for Lowe, or any other member of the Board. I just support Saints and know right now they need that support, because they are in real danger of being wiped out by a senseless campaign to rid the club of Lowe and Wilde. The team will always come first in my book. You are quite welcome to your view but don't ram it down my throat because I happen to have a different one to you. Stay away if you must, but in my opinion you would be better served supporting the team, and continuing your campaign aginst Lowe in other ways if you really feel it is necessary.

A slight exageration to say I keep banging on about the good old days, but yes we are in a much worse position now than we were then in terms of finances, team personnel, and fan harmony. This is the reason I am so passionate, because I was there and and want to see those days return. I just happen to believe my methods of trying to get those good days back is better than yours. We may not REALLY have been the best team in the land - but it is what we used to sing. You will never convince me that being unhappy, aggressive, distructive, and campaigning to empty the ground will ever succeed in seeing us return to a great team competing at the highest level in this wonderful game of ours.

This great divide you mention, does not exist in my opinion. There are far too many staying away from the ground, and I am honest to say I do not know the reason. I think your supporters will account for some, but I also strongly believe the credit crunch, price of tickets, no smoking ban, lethargy, and the fact we are playing in the Chanpionship (and not very well) are also accounting for a lot of bums not being on seats. You however, will be confident that it is only because of Lowe, but again I say - prove it. You keep on asking for people to contact you on your email address to let you know the reason they are staying away, and what the numbers are - care to share with us how high those figures are?

AD74 wrote:
In case UTS hasn't provided a list of past managers 08/08Pearson (Contract not renewed) 05/08 Burley (Scotland Job) 04/05 Redknapp (Back to Pompey) 04/04 Wigley (Sacked) 04/04 Sturrock (Sacked) 01/04 Strachen (Time Out) 01/01 Gray (Sacked) 00/01 Hoddle (Spurs Job) 97/00 Jones (Court case) 96/97 Souness (Resigned citing Lowe) 95/96 Merrington (Personal Reasons) 94/95 Ball (Man City Job) 91/94 Branfoot (Sacked) 85/91 Nicholl (Sacked)

I thought Lowe arrived in 1997. So why have you included Nicholl, Branfoot, Ball and Merrington?

Wigley was only appointed in a caretaker roll. Sturrock left by mutual consent (ousted by player power) So, to summarise, only 1 sacking. Methinks your list is typical of the rubbish posted by you negatives.

Derek of Holbury wrote:
No Loweout - all football matters are not dictated by what Lowe wants. An assumption made by someone who clearly hates the man and is guessing about what is currently going on behind the scenes. If you can believe ALL that Bassett says (and I personally cannot) so what. It did not mean that he was insisting they put in the kids. It could have been just light hearted banter with good intentions, that one man took the wrong way. WE WERE NOT THERE It really does not matter how much these two know about football - their job is the financial side and running a business. How much do you think the owners of Man U, Villa and Liverpool know about English football. You seem to have conveniently forgotten the FA cup when you talk about the good times being pre Lowe. I have seen lots of wonderful times during Lowes tenure and I include some this season, but you cannot comment on those can you, as you do not go any more. Sorry mate but for the mainstream fans the fight is still against the other teams and it is a tribal thing - the board and who is on it does not change a thing in that respect. The main topic of conversation between the fans is NOT about who is to blame, it is only a subject that is perpetuated by just a small section of 'fans' who have decided to stay away from the games. Football and the team is still the main topic for the majority. Why is it you, and people like you are so quick to be insulting and accuse anyone who does not share your views of being a Lowe luvvy or in bed with him. How many different ways can I try to explain that I have no affinity or affection for Lowe, or any other member of the Board. I just support Saints and know right now they need that support, because they are in real danger of being wiped out by a senseless campaign to rid the club of Lowe and Wilde. The team will always come first in my book. You are quite welcome to your view but don't ram it down my throat because I happen to have a different one to you. Stay away if you must, but in my opinion you would be better served supporting the team, and continuing your campaign aginst Lowe in other ways if you really feel it is necessary. A slight exageration to say I keep banging on about the good old days, but yes we are in a much worse position now than we were then in terms of finances, team personnel, and fan harmony. This is the reason I am so passionate, because I was there and and want to see those days return. I just happen to believe my methods of trying to get those good days back is better than yours. We may not REALLY have been the best team in the land - but it is what we used to sing. You will never convince me that being unhappy, aggressive, distructive, and campaigning to empty the ground will ever succeed in seeing us return to a great team competing at the highest level in this wonderful game of ours. This great divide you mention, does not exist in my opinion. There are far too many staying away from the ground, and I am honest to say I do not know the reason. I think your supporters will account for some, but I also strongly believe the credit crunch, price of tickets, no smoking ban, lethargy, and the fact we are playing in the Chanpionship (and not very well) are also accounting for a lot of bums not being on seats. You however, will be confident that it is only because of Lowe, but again I say - prove it. You keep on asking for people to contact you on your email address to let you know the reason they are staying away, and what the numbers are - care to share with us how high those figures are?

Come off it Derek, of course Lowe is dicating football matters. Whilst he may not taking training, he has signed players for the club in the past, tried and failed on 2 occasions, including the current set up to adopt a european style head coach set up, where the director of football (Lowe) signs the players and then the coach is only responsible for development.

Why isnt this set widely adopted in other clubs? Because it just doesnt work, see Spurs recent mangerial history as proof.

I have always stated that I recognise Lowe has made some good calls for SFC...... SMS, mangerial appointments including Strachans FA Cup run.

What my point is that after a decade of his control, you conclude whether Lowe has been a benefit to SFC and we are in a stronger position today then when we joined? No!!!

Is Lowe likely to be able to reinstate us back to the position we were a few years ago in the immediate future, do we have faith in him....... I say No!!!!, and it is a view shared by other supporters Derek. You should be concerned that a percentage of seasoned ticket holders (myself/Dad 25 years) are boycotting because of Lowes involvment. Does that not worry you?

I have never insulted you or another ffan on this site and I have never asked for fans who are attending SMS to boycott. I have just asked for supporters who have decided, like me to boycott SMS in protest of Lowe, to drop me a line indicating the number of adults and children that would normally attend.

SFC have already lost these fans. I am suggesting we are in a downward spiral under Lowe and we will continue to loose players, points, get relegated and possible administration.

The set up is wrong and it is being dicated to be Lowe!!!

JP would not have wanted Stern John to not be at his disposal, it was Lowe that got rid of him to cash flow purposes. What Lowe doesnt realise is that if we start winning games, the success on the pitch generates fans on the terraces and wealth off it.

Just getting rid of all the high earners and not replacing them with anyone other than amateur players, youth players and loanees doesnt sound like a man who knows how to construct a winning side.

And to my final point about having a different view to you and ramming my iopinion down your throat????

What you dont seem to realise is fans like me are not the enermy of SFC. The opposite in fact. We care as much for our club and the running of the club as the supporters who are attending SMS. I feel so passionate about Lowe destroying what we had and our future, I am bothering to share my feelings and concerns with you. Why???? Its not for the fun of it, Id rather be doing something else believe me. Its because I have not given up the hope of being able to get back to the terraces and support my team, for life, until the day I day, as I had always imagined I would growing up. The dreams that go with being a football fan, have and will continue to be stripped away and destroyed by a hard nosed business man, who knows nothing about football.

You tell me if Im wrong, you could say there are 3 categories of supporters.
1. Lowe fans, friends, employees or family members - (Loyal to the core - what percentage of the fan base would this represent???)
2. SFC fans who dont care who is in charge (definately the largest percentage of the fan base)
3. SFC fans who are so enraged with a decade of poor decisions by Lowe, feel strongly enough to boycot SMS (we are trying to gauge this percentage).

Again, if the majority of the fans either dont want Lowe or dont care who is in charge, why does Lowe think he is acting in the best interest of SFC by remaining in power.

What category do you fit into Derek!!