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Forest outclassed us - Jan
5:57pm Saturday 20th December 2008
Jan Poortvliet admitted his side deserved to lose their crunch relegation clash with Nottingham Forest.
Saints are staring right down the barrel as a 2-0 St Mary’s reverse leaves them just one point clear of the drop zone at Christmas.
And with a dismal home record of just one league win all season things are not looking good.
He said: “It was a bad result at the wrong time.
“I think they deserved it. We didn’t do enough to win the game.
“We had not enough power to give them a difficult time and when they scored the goal it looked difficult for us to do it because we didn’t have enough attempts or possibilities.
“It was a disappointing afternoon.
“The only complaint was a little bit about the referee but then you are looking for an excuse.
“We should have done more and had more presence in the game itself and I look especially at the forwards because we didn’t do enough to bring the game to our side.
“The goals were at the wrong moments.”
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Costa Baz, Southampton says...
6:22pm Sat 20 Dec 08
I only caught the last minute on the radio and the general consensus was that the ref and linesman did ok, so yes Jan you are looking for an excuse.
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
6:24pm Sat 20 Dec 08
The odds on the survival of you, the board and the coach just got alot shorter after yet another gutless display. Sad to say but the only investment in this football club is at the bookmakers where Southampton are now quoted at even money for relegation.
It must surely be time Rupert for you to reverse out of Southampton Leisure Holdings and back to Insecure Retirement.
With you and your madcap ideas the only way is down.
Nurse come quickly it's time again for Mr Lowe's medication.
San Marco, says...
6:25pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Today's result is a catastrophe given the opposition, the large crowd and the difficult matches to come before New Year. We need drastic change quickly - but I fear we are not going to get it.
Roman Gasmi's Fifa09 Mullet, Isle of Wight says...
6:30pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Holmes looked good in the 1st half sfter his long spell out but due to fitness could not play the whole match.
after the 1st goal we looked out of ideas and tried to play too pretty football our crossing from corners and out wide was shocking as was our midfield play with the exception of Jack Cork who will surely be gone soon as his loan ends.
Mcgoldrick was a complete waste of space as ever and was rightly subbed for the more mobile BWP but even he faded after there 2nd goal.
all in all Poortvleit has no idea at all and after a terrible run at home with 1 win in 11 matches is just not good enough and if this continues we will heading for League 1.
The board (Rupert Lowe) must act now and be brave enough to admit he made a mistake in appointing him as he cannot make a difference to the way we play at all where as Nigel Pearson last season could motivate them to produce results when they counted.
Thanks for the xmas present Jan but it is just an empty box with nothing in, and all I want for Christmas is you P45 and Lowe's clowns out!!!
Merry Xmas
PS KEY WORD = when-fail ironic eh!!
cleversaint, Southampton says...
6:37pm Sat 20 Dec 08
dundas20012002, Dundas Ontario says...
6:41pm Sat 20 Dec 08
normsted, puybossard says...
6:51pm Sat 20 Dec 08
rob 1, andover says...
6:51pm Sat 20 Dec 08
couzzy, southampton says...
6:55pm Sat 20 Dec 08
We have got it so wrong this season it is abslutley inbelievable.
Merry Xmas forset , you will never have a better present.
Gutless,Winless an an utter utter disgrace to those who have worn the shirt with such pride before them.
ith the support you boys have had today you should be utterly ashamed of yourselves.
karenfairley, chandlers ford says...
6:55pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Paul TS, Swanwick says...
6:57pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Rupert made a massive gamble with Jan and another of his fads has failed. Rellegation form I am afraid. Rupert + Co MUST go for good and Jan must be sent packing. Please don't anyone tell me where we get the money for another manager, because at this rate there will be no fans, no season ticket holders attending in future, oh bar a few keeping the faith!. Mr Barclays bank manager, please can you insist that we have Leon back. Why on earth did Lowe get rid of Pearson?? I tell you why, because he was short sighted, does not know anything about football and was hoping, like Woodwarde that if his gamble came off, he would be applauded for his intuition! Lowe, Jan and I am afraid the lads today are making us all look total prats!
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
7:15pm Sat 20 Dec 08
couzzy, southampton says...
7:31pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Sorry to hear that but explain the word "passion" to him and use saints as the perfect example of the opposite of it. your son wnt be the last of the next generation of saints fans who witnesssed THAT today and will probably take up netball.....along with most of the saints squad
oz498, totton says...
7:41pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Lowes Nemisis, Southampton says...
7:51pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Martin Orford, Bishops Waltham says...
7:59pm Sat 20 Dec 08
And may "cultured passing football" never darken the doors of St Mary's again - it's dreadful.
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
8:09pm Sat 20 Dec 08
US Spitfire, Idaho USA says...
8:15pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Another Home Defeat
Another week nearer relegation
And to top it off, Jan admits Saints were outclassed by a team in the relegation spot...
Oh Dear, oh dear, oh dear
There's only one way for this club now - and it isn't UP!!!!
Invidia, southampton says...
8:28pm Sat 20 Dec 08
post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crap
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
8:35pm Sat 20 Dec 08
saint Compo, Winchester says...
8:38pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Jan has no tactical sense at all. To start with Euell instead of BW-P was stupid; not to make the change at half-time was incredible and then eventually to take off McGoldrick when you're a goal down and need an extra forward not a replacement one was crass.
Only Holmes showed any pace. BW-P could have threatened from the right or as twin striker with his pace.
Game after game at home we play the same system - the only system Jan seems to have in his repertoire. It may have worked with top-notch Dutch stars back in the seventies but it is not working here and now with inexperienced players.
Except when we play the long ball forward, it takes a minimum of 8 and often 12 passes to get from our penalty area to the opposition's. By that time even the less able opponents are able to get 8 men or more behind the ball. We are then having to play such tight passes that we lose the ball more times than we even remotely threaten a goal. All this passing is very pretty but is wholly ineffective. We simply disappear up our own proverbials as we run round in ever decreasing circles.
In contrast today, Notts Forest did the same at speed with 3 or 4 passes and had more space to create real scoring chances.
Our defence cannot defend high balls from set pieces. They are too short and aren't willing to put themselves about. The first goal was a free header and we nearly conceded more from cross balls.
Up front, with one 'striker' supported by others in ad hoc manner, we put no pressure on the opponents' defence.
If we are relegated, we go out of business. Jan should go but we probably can't afford to pay him and his support coaches off and we seem unable to afford a better manager. With his big pay-off (no doubt) from Blackburn, perhaps Paul Ince would do the job until the end of the season for free (said with tongue embedded in cheek!).
But the players must take some of the blame. They are not giving their all. They should look themselves in the miror. They may think they are budding prima donnas but, if so, they are deluding themselves.
I fear for our future. As a Saints fan for more than 50 years, I do not see much of a future for my beloved club.
COYR (please, please, please).
Invidia, southampton says...
8:46pm Sat 20 Dec 08
ken j, Highcliffe says...
8:54pm Sat 20 Dec 08
The Grey Mystery, Shirley says...
9:14pm Sat 20 Dec 08
fred the red, Southampton says...
9:39pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Time for change Rupert. Start on Tuesday by resigning and taking that three wise Dutchmen with you.
No matter what it takes change must happen. Rupert has proved again and again that he does not have enough nouse to chair a blow football club. Get out, take your worthless shares and your pathetic ideas and give the club back to the fans who have seen football played with passion and pride and not the gutless lot we saw today.
Traceyf, Southampton says...
9:44pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Invidia wrote:You really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you.
Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crap
Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic?
As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith?
In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
Invidia, southampton says...
9:56pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Traceyf wrote:your the silly so,d with blind faith, but never mind lets talk positive about todays fiasco, surely you have been briefed already!
Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
Invidia, southampton says...
9:58pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Traceyf, Southampton says...
10:08pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Invidia wrote:Yep I have been briefed already, Mr Lowe has told me to say I should ask you to prove I have blind faith ;-)
Traceyf wrote:your the silly so,d with blind faith, but never mind lets talk positive about todays fiasco, surely you have been briefed already!Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
On a serious note, what a poor match and terrible result. I thought...hoped....f
or a good result today, I expected forest to score but thought we could have got 2 or 3. Oh well, always the next match.
disgusted observer, totton says...
10:20pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Invidia, southampton says...
10:26pm Sat 20 Dec 08
disgusted observer wrote:Good question old timer, but while we have people in charge and paying customers who don't know football we wil just keep on dishing out the same old garbage
I have never seen such a poor Saints display, even back in the 3rd division days we put on a better show for the supporters and you know what. The Echo ran a campaign to get rid of Ted and Mary Bates can you imagine that now. What on earth is going on with the Saints club?
Saint, says...
10:40pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Traceyf wrote:Tracey todays was 100% crap, and trying to fight from this point is really silly!
Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
At what point do you as a Saints fan say enough is enough?!
As to DOH-pey he gets all that he desrves. He gives out far worst crap, and he should learn to take it. He is arrogant and very rude! He said we would win 3-1 today and that we play good football. Challegne him on this point and gets abusive and claims many are not real Saints fans like he is! He is a TRAIN stuck in the station.
Tracey we are in the deep doodoos! Jan is not good enough, and for the good of the club this has to change. The prove in front of your eyes, if you really care to look.
TottonScrutineer, Totton says...
10:49pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Invidia, southampton says...
10:50pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Reality-man, Southampton says...
10:58pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Look on the bright side though, at least the wheels are starting to come off of the pompey caravan! Having a great time on the portsmouth news website at the moment......... mugs!
saint Compo, Winchester says...
11:00pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Saint wrote:Yes Tracey, I would normally applaud your faith but blind faith, head in the sand, will lead to the club's ruin. Something has to be done but I know not what. We are in such a financial bind that we can't afford to change personnel on the field, nor off I suspect.
Traceyf wrote:Tracey todays was 100% crap, and trying to fight from this point is really silly! At what point do you as a Saints fan say enough is enough?! As to DOH-pey he gets all that he desrves. He gives out far worst crap, and he should learn to take it. He is arrogant and very rude! He said we would win 3-1 today and that we play good football. Challegne him on this point and gets abusive and claims many are not real Saints fans like he is! He is a TRAIN stuck in the station. Tracey we are in the deep doodoos! Jan is not good enough, and for the good of the club this has to change. The prove in front of your eyes, if you really care to look.Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
I have been prepared to give Jan time to get the young and inexperienced players to gel into a team. But time has run out. He's not up to the job - tactically bereft. The players' heads are now dropping. Supposedly bright young players are getting found out for what they are: insufficiently self-motivated and ambitious (to become better footballers rather than just line their pockets).
The country is in recession and it's going to get worse next year; only the fittest businesses will survive. We are in deep trouble. A lot of footballers are going to be out of a job as their clubs go to the wall. They'd better realise that and start to earn their inflated wages. I will not continue to pour good money into unworthy pockets for much longer. The good days are over for mediocre footballers.
Invidia, southampton says...
11:17pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
1:12am Sun 21 Dec 08
What a load of toss.
Who's fault is it Derek?
Is it the fans fault tonight?
Is it the tidal wave?
Is it the Lunar eclipse?
What has made us fail today??
WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH.
We're screwed, we're bolox. My nil nil prediction was well too optimistic. ONLY HERE FOR UNITED. Where the chuff were all of the other "superfans" who love this club. Did you only come for the Man U game?!?!??!
Can't beat clubs beneath us at home, **** toss
RomseyTom, Romsey says...
1:44am Sun 21 Dec 08
loweout@hotmail.co.uk, St. Marys says...
3:27am Sun 21 Dec 08
But lets get real here, we all know who the real culprit is, Lowe. Lowe got us relegated, Lowe is trying this dutch expertiment because its cheap and he can totally control the shots, making all the decisions for the club to ensure he tries and salvages some of his and Wildes share investment.
I and other fans have been on this site since the beginning of the season warning fans of the writing on the wall.
Today, a huge gate turned up in support of the team, due to the reduced pricing and realisation of how important it was not to loose today to 3 from bottom Forest.
Well, the extra fans made no difference at all. We lost again, the manager is not experience enough and doesnt have the players at his disposal to achieve what we all want, a team capable of winning home games at least!!!!!
If you have had enough of Lowe and his poor decision making on behalf of SFC or are boycotting SMS, please drop me a line, stating the number of adults and children not attending as a result of Lowe.
Kiwi, Southampton says...
4:38am Sun 21 Dec 08
Wilde, an inigma and some say treacherous has the power. All he has to do is withdraw his support at the AGM and Lowe is history. But will he have the nerve to turn on Lowe again. I doubt it, but then I hope I'm wrong.
Who to take his place why Crouch of course. Ok I know he didn't last ;ong but he was on the right track. He also knew we had to cut the playing staff to the bone and its the same medicine but it would have been under NP and thats the difference.
Lowe is not a football chairman, never has been nor ever will
wilsamsaints, southampton says...
4:56am Sun 21 Dec 08
The Grey Mystery, Shirley says...
5:18am Sun 21 Dec 08
wilsamsaints wrote:kate and doh are off to lapland with rupert, the loch ness monster, bigfoot, and a couple of yeti,please wake up you 2 you are making our club a laughing stock with the ammunition you give to the lowe haters on this site,see you at Plymouth, I will be the one in red and white without a beard
where is kate from andover with her c o y r, has she finally given in to the reality of how bad s f c are and how we need the other teams around us to be even worse if we are to stay in this division.
The Dell was bigger than Fratton, St Marys Stadium (32000) says...
7:20am Sun 21 Dec 08
Lowe Out Lowe Out Lowe Out Lowe Out Lowe Out
pitbull, norwich says...
9:04am Sun 21 Dec 08
I do wonder about Jan tho. All around him are saying 2 up front would be better,Lallanas most effective position is just behind the striker,so why is he played out on the wing.BWP was great at right wing in pre-season but Jan puts him on the left.There has always been a problem at the back but nothing was done,and McGoldrick is so assured of his starting place he doesnt put in the effort,I say give Paterson a few games and leave McGoldrick out for a bit,or is it a case of "Rupert wantz uz to play zis way and try to make goalz and I I I I I I I I try to make im appy".
As for the Forest game,it seemed to me that some of the players just didnt want to put the effort in just in case they picked up an injury before the transfer window opened.
sainthog7, southampton says...
9:08am Sun 21 Dec 08
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
9:16am Sun 21 Dec 08
Superman,Batman,Col Gadaffi,Col Sanders please i beg you come and save our sorry **** because there`s 300000 Saints fans mourning the demise of this club this morning.
pitbull, norwich says...
9:26am Sun 21 Dec 08
Anyone know his email address
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
9:31am Sun 21 Dec 08
pitbull wrote:Richard.branson@virg
Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email address
in.co.uk
Lordprice, Hedge End says...
10:00am Sun 21 Dec 08
Theres a manager in league 1 doing quite well at the moment at Leicester..a Nigel somebody..maybe you should take a look at him...
normsted, puybossard says...
10:02am Sun 21 Dec 08
Denzil', Chilworth says...
10:39am Sun 21 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse wrote:Says the bloke who posts on here during Pompey games. You pathetic Skate tosser. Typical plastic Pompey fan, who has only supported them since their pathetic club dragged themselves out of the nationwide a couple of years ago.
Denzil and the prawn sandwch brigade are probably already supporting Man Utd or Chelsea.
wild mutt, soton says...
10:53am Sun 21 Dec 08
Under the current set up SFC is doomed.Lowe has no passion and J,Portaloo has the equivelent experience as a conference manager.Im sure the majority of Our players can play well together week in week out but not under jP,A manager installs belief into the side but JP is incapable.NP would have been great for us this year,just look at what he's doing for the foxes! Bye Bye Saints R.I.P
Denzil', Chilworth says...
10:55am Sun 21 Dec 08
AND TAKE YOUR DUTCH BOYFRIENDS WITH YOU.
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
11:02am Sun 21 Dec 08
However the main theme of pure rage about yesterdays events on the pitch still consumes me. All the comments above are spot on IMO. I think the cogs are moving too quickly for us to stop them, the momentum is too great for us to turn back from the brink and survive this mess we are in.
We narrowly missed out on relegation last year and our squad / management structure is worse than it was, so what hope do we have?
Rupert Lowe, for the sake of sanity can you get rid of Jan, get a proper manager in, get our strikers back from loan and finally throw yourself off of the Itchen Bridge. I know all of this involves getting your chequebook out but in the long run it is the most economical option.
If we honestly can't afford it then we might as well wrap up the business now and all go forth and start supporting Bowls or Tiddly Winks or something not quite as demanding and emotionally draining as supporting Southampton Leisure Holdings FC.
If we are that skint why did we shell out £1.2m on Schneiderlin when an experienced professional English manager was far a far higher imperative than a fancy dan holding midfielder.
How do we move forward? What is our out? How do we move away from the brink when we can't even beat teams below us at home?
This team is not set up for this league, every other team looks bigger stronger and hungrier than Rupert Lowe FC.
I've got a horrible feeling we will be found out in a massive way against UTD.
Almost forgot.....
LOWE OUT AND TAKE YOUR DUTCH BOYFRIENDS WITH YOU
fred the red, Southampton says...
11:23am Sun 21 Dec 08
robhythe, Southampton says...
12:26pm Sun 21 Dec 08
lowe and behold, southampton says...
12:30pm Sun 21 Dec 08
27000 turn up even though a fair few were there to get their MAN UTD tickets.
never the less the anticipation pre kick off was that finally we will win.
The second half performance at Burnley gave heart and all the P R rubbish throughout the week ie the players are hurting etc.
Instead what we witnessed was the worst saints performance iv witnessed for a very long time and theres been a fair few!
NO HEART NO FIGHT NO PASSION NO SKILL against a side who are in the bottom 3. Forest won every ball and the second ball as well.
Saints were 5 yards off the pace every time for many periods the game seemed to just drift along in a daze.
Mcgoldrick is a lazy waste of space the biggest cheer of the day was when he was taken off!
Another liability is LLOYD JAMES how that bloke keeps appearing week in week out is beyond me.
JAN YOUR TIME IS UP LOWE YOUR TIME IS ALSO UP. THE CLUB IS IN DISARAY ON AND OF THE FIELD. TOTAL DISGRACE AND UTTER SHAMBLES
robhythe, Southampton says...
12:33pm Sun 21 Dec 08
lowe and behold wrote:Totally agree with all you said apart from the fans turned up cos of the prices not man utd! ( only would have made 1000 to 2000 more than usual)
The club cries out for all the fans to return. 27000 turn up even though a fair few were there to get their MAN UTD tickets. never the less the anticipation pre kick off was that finally we will win. The second half performance at Burnley gave heart and all the P R rubbish throughout the week ie the players are hurting etc. Instead what we witnessed was the worst saints performance iv witnessed for a very long time and theres been a fair few! NO HEART NO FIGHT NO PASSION NO SKILL against a side who are in the bottom 3. Forest won every ball and the second ball as well. Saints were 5 yards off the pace every time for many periods the game seemed to just drift along in a daze. Mcgoldrick is a lazy waste of space the biggest cheer of the day was when he was taken off! Another liability is LLOYD JAMES how that bloke keeps appearing week in week out is beyond me. JAN YOUR TIME IS UP LOWE YOUR TIME IS ALSO UP. THE CLUB IS IN DISARAY ON AND OF THE FIELD. TOTAL DISGRACE AND UTTER SHAMBLES
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
12:39pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Or can't you read either?
Like I pointed out before, technology would allow people to do so anyway, but I understand a backwater carrotcrunching Bumpkin like you wouldn't know that.
Prawn sandwich boy, you live in a villiage, why not support your local team? No went or the nearest big team didn't you.
Posh tw@t, go back to rugger or polo, leave the footie to the working classes.
jhp767903, Terra Firma says...
12:43pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Saint, says...
12:47pm Sun 21 Dec 08
pitbull wrote:Not a such a silly idea, stranger things have happen.
Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email address
richard.branson@virg
inmedia.com. or richard.branson@virg
innet.co.uk
The stadium could be re named the Virgin Mary stadium.
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
12:52pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Where was the outpouring of rage and anger at having to endure that dross.
Surely it`s getting to a point that if someone like me who is always prepared to give new idea`s a go has had enough.
I cant see how we`re going to find a way out of this situation with the current set up,im gutted .
Surely the next home game,if it is going the same way as all the other inept performances at home this season bar Norwich and an uninterested Birmingham carling cup match,the fans will be more vociferous in their disaproval of the Lowe grand plan and his Dutch lovers?
lowe and behold, southampton says...
12:54pm Sun 21 Dec 08
robhythe wrote:I really can not see how this club can go forward under the current regime. The gates will drop again with the perfomances totally unacceptable.The club is still charging nearly £30 per game to watch over rated under acheiving players who are only intrasted in their wages. Surman and lallana are just going through the motions not intrested and havent been for a while
lowe and behold wrote: The club cries out for all the fans to return. 27000 turn up even though a fair few were there to get their MAN UTD tickets. never the less the anticipation pre kick off was that finally we will win. The second half performance at Burnley gave heart and all the P R rubbish throughout the week ie the players are hurting etc. Instead what we witnessed was the worst saints performance iv witnessed for a very long time and theres been a fair few! NO HEART NO FIGHT NO PASSION NO SKILL against a side who are in the bottom 3. Forest won every ball and the second ball as well. Saints were 5 yards off the pace every time for many periods the game seemed to just drift along in a daze. Mcgoldrick is a lazy waste of space the biggest cheer of the day was when he was taken off! Another liability is LLOYD JAMES how that bloke keeps appearing week in week out is beyond me. JAN YOUR TIME IS UP LOWE YOUR TIME IS ALSO UP. THE CLUB IS IN DISARAY ON AND OF THE FIELD. TOTAL DISGRACE AND UTTER SHAMBLESTotally agree with all you said apart from the fans turned up cos of the prices not man utd! ( only would have made 1000 to 2000 more than usual)
I fear saints may well be the next LEEDS UTD heading into the unknown
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
1:04pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Saint wrote:ha ha thats a brilliant name.
pitbull wrote: Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email addressNot a such a silly idea, stranger things have happen. richard.branson@virg inmedia.com. or richard.branson@virg innet.co.uk The stadium could be re named the Virgin Mary stadium.
Im thinking of taking up religion because we`re in desperate need of a miracle.
lowe and behold, southampton says...
1:07pm Sun 21 Dec 08
the third hardest man in sholing wrote:I dont think even EILEEN DREWERY can help us with her healing hands and words :-)
Saint wrote:ha ha thats a brilliant name. Im thinking of taking up religion because we`re in desperate need of a miracle.pitbull wrote: Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email addressNot a such a silly idea, stranger things have happen. richard.branson@virg inmedia.com. or richard.branson@virg innet.co.uk The stadium could be re named the Virgin Mary stadium.
keano, chandlers ford says...
1:18pm Sun 21 Dec 08
going nowhere football, southampton says...
1:18pm Sun 21 Dec 08
OSPREYSAINT, Southampton says...
1:32pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Dutch Saints Fan, 's-Heerenberg/Holland says...
1:58pm Sun 21 Dec 08
THIS THE END for you Jan.
Lots of **** and less football.
Thanx for ruining my XMAS.
COYR for the next coach
Denzil', Chilworth says...
2:02pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse wrote:Liar liar liar, you come from Portsmouth, I wasn't aware people on your little disgusting island have finally got internet phones like the rest of the U.K. You plastic knob.
Denzil is a dinlow who can't tell the time, I've never posted during a match, check the times prawn sandwich boy. Or can't you read either? Like I pointed out before, technology would allow people to do so anyway, but I understand a backwater carrotcrunching Bumpkin like you wouldn't know that. Prawn sandwich boy, you live in a villiage, why not support your local team? No went or the nearest big team didn't you. Posh tw@t, go back to rugger or polo, leave the footie to the working classes.
Another great result for you yesterday Skate, all your players off back to good old 'arry next month aswell. I reckon within 2 years you will have reclaimed your place in the fizzy.
Reality-man, Southampton says...
2:14pm Sun 21 Dec 08
wilsamsaints wrote:At last another inhabitant of planet reality! Yeah has gone a bit quiet from our 'we'll win more games than we lose' friend from Andover. Shot me down in flames when i predicted the current crisis after the Birmingham home game!
where is kate from andover with her c o y r, has she finally given in to the reality of how bad s f c are and how we need the other teams around us to be even worse if we are to stay in this division.
Denzil', Chilworth says...
2:19pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Lowes Nemisis, Southampton says...
2:40pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Seems the "negtives" have finally chased you "fantasists" into the real world!!
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
3:16pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Honestly your obvious lack of any significant IQ is probably a big reaon your still a virgin.
You're the one from a backwater mate not me.
2 years time you probably won't even exist, and you deffo won't be in the Championship after this season.
Now run along unless you can think of something original to say prawn sandwich boy.
Football back to the working classes, Denzil out and take the prawn sandwich brigade with you.
Bright Spark, Stubbington says...
3:26pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Robert Napper, broadmoor says...
3:32pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse wrote:You leave Denzil alone, he's a good friend of mine, we used to get up to a lot together. He's no virgin I can assure you.
What you on about Denzil liar, prove it, show me the quoye from match time you silly little boy. Honestly your obvious lack of any significant IQ is probably a big reaon your still a virgin. You're the one from a backwater mate not me. 2 years time you probably won't even exist, and you deffo won't be in the Championship after this season. Now run along unless you can think of something original to say prawn sandwich boy. Football back to the working classes, Denzil out and take the prawn sandwich brigade with you.
If I ever get out of here you'next on my list.
Newquay Saint, says...
3:37pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Bright Spark, Stubbington says...
3:56pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Newquay Saint wrote:Just thank yourself that you haven't had to spend your spare cash and time at Christmas travelling to see a team that kept Southampton on the map for decades, but now have brought shame on the city. This is not always the players fault though from some there is an obvious lack of effort and moral fibre. It's the way that the club has been managed since we got to the cup final. And in answer to your question, when Plymouth stroll off with the 3 points on Boxing Day, and maybe a 3 or 4 nil win ... you will have answered your own question.
I'm a Saints living in Cornwall. I only get to join the Saints fans in the away end at Plymouth (Friday) - so having read all these comments, I'm feeling as if I'd got tickets for Lapland New Forest! Is it that bad guys?
Mr BCB, West End says...
4:06pm Sun 21 Dec 08
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
5:03pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Mr BCB wrote:I wouldnt fancy our chances against their under 11s at the moment,we couldnt even beat an egg at the mo.
I shall be at the Man Utd cup game in early Jan.Wonder what the score will be ? Also what type of team will Utd field? Based on yesterday even their reserve team would beat us.
Newquay Saint, says...
5:03pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Denzil', Chilworth says...
5:20pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse wrote:You go and find it, I can't be bothered to look for one of your pathetic ramblings, you illiterate plastic goon. Posting on a Saints match report when Pompey are playing at home. You really are a shameful little man.
What you on about Denzil liar, prove it, show me the quoye from match time you silly little boy. Honestly your obvious lack of any significant IQ is probably a big reaon your still a virgin. You're the one from a backwater mate not me. 2 years time you probably won't even exist, and you deffo won't be in the Championship after this season. Now run along unless you can think of something original to say prawn sandwich boy. Football back to the working classes, Denzil out and take the prawn sandwich brigade with you.
Obee-One, Lordswood says...
6:02pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Apart from the Man Utd game I don't think we'll be seeing a crowd like that for a while, if I'm honest I think we'll soon be thinking that 15k at SMS is good.
I don't very often write comments on here & when I do I normally try to be a peace maker as I agree with the negative & the positive comments but there really is no positive anymore.
I really don't want to be negative as I love SFC & want nothing more than to see them do well, I'm more than happy with survival in this league this season, how bad is that.
I'm a season ticket holder so I go to every home game but I also try to get to a few away games, I've seen some good games this season but if I'm honest I've seen more shockers. I think that the players can do better, I also think that the manager can do better but having said that I have run out of patience & time is running out for us in the championship.
Jan & some of the players are perhaps out of there depth but I don't blame them, I'm fairly sure that they didn't beg to be here & that they didn't promise that everything will be fine, for me this is all Lowe's fault, I know some people will defend him & say that it's not his fault but as far as I'm concerned he has a lot to answer for & most of it boils down to doing things on the cheap. Rupert was in charge when we dropped out of the Premiereship, he was in charge for our first season in the Championship which surely was the best season to have a go at getting back up, he was in charge when we brought most of the players in before our second season in this division yet he seems to blame Leon Crouch for that and now he's back in charge we've got off to the worst start ever, what next????? Obviously I don't want to go down or administration but I fear them both & to rub salt in the wounds Ruprt will probably by the club back for £1 or so & we'll be back to square one.
Sorry to be negative just before Christmas but it's getting beyond a joke now.
After all that I'll still be there next Sunday, I might go to Plymouth on Boxing day, & I will still be there next season, we've all seen some changes over the past few seasons but one thing that wont change is me supporting THE BEST & ONLY CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, I hope that there's some more Red & White nutters like me that wont give up.
Come on you Reds, new year, new start????? PLEASE !!!!!
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
6:50pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Traceyf, Southampton says...
6:58pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Saint wrote:Saint,
Traceyf wrote:Tracey todays was 100% crap, and trying to fight from this point is really silly! At what point do you as a Saints fan say enough is enough?! As to DOH-pey he gets all that he desrves. He gives out far worst crap, and he should learn to take it. He is arrogant and very rude! He said we would win 3-1 today and that we play good football. Challegne him on this point and gets abusive and claims many are not real Saints fans like he is! He is a TRAIN stuck in the station. Tracey we are in the deep doodoos! Jan is not good enough, and for the good of the club this has to change. The prove in front of your eyes, if you really care to look.Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
Yes I know the team played badly, I have previously said so.
At what point do I, as a Saints fan, say enough is enough? Never!! I will ALWAYS support saints through good and bad. I suspect you don't mean that though ;-)
Seriously, I think JP is a very good technical coach, I don't agree that he is out of his depth but he does need to very urgently review the team tactics and make changes (I have previously said this before too).
Yep I agree things aren't looking good.
What the problem here is Derek and myself choose not to slag the team or manager off, whereas other people here do and don't like it when someone has an opposing view.
Alec, Reading says...
6:58pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Traceyf, Southampton says...
7:04pm Sun 21 Dec 08
pitbull wrote:A fool and his money are soon parted and Richard Branson is no fool.
Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email address
Saints are a long way from being a viable takeover target for anyone who is really serious.
saint Compo, Winchester says...
7:08pm Sun 21 Dec 08
I note all the anti-Lowe feeling. It's understandable in many ways but I'm not sure his departure would be the best solution at the moment.
BUT HE NOW HAS TO SHOW THAT HE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. JAN AND HIS SUPPORT CREW ARE NOT UP TO THE JOB (SADLY) AND YET AGAIN WE HAVE TO BRING IN SOMEBODY WHO MAY BE ABLE TO KEEP US UP. PROBLEM IS: WE CAN'T REALLY AFFORD A BETTER MANAGER. THIS MAY SOUND A BIT 'OFF THE WALL' BUT I WONDER WHETHER SOMEBODY LIKE DAVE MERRINGTON MIGHT BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE JOB FOR THE REST OF THIS SEASON ON THE WAGES WE ARE PAYING JAN.
robhythe, Southampton says...
7:24pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Obee-One wrote:Well said, great post!!! Im with you there!
What a dissapointing game in front of a crowd that I've been hoping we'd have more often. Apart from the Man Utd game I don't think we'll be seeing a crowd like that for a while, if I'm honest I think we'll soon be thinking that 15k at SMS is good. I don't very often write comments on here & when I do I normally try to be a peace maker as I agree with the negative & the positive comments but there really is no positive anymore. I really don't want to be negative as I love SFC & want nothing more than to see them do well, I'm more than happy with survival in this league this season, how bad is that. I'm a season ticket holder so I go to every home game but I also try to get to a few away games, I've seen some good games this season but if I'm honest I've seen more shockers. I think that the players can do better, I also think that the manager can do better but having said that I have run out of patience & time is running out for us in the championship. Jan & some of the players are perhaps out of there depth but I don't blame them, I'm fairly sure that they didn't beg to be here & that they didn't promise that everything will be fine, for me this is all Lowe's fault, I know some people will defend him & say that it's not his fault but as far as I'm concerned he has a lot to answer for & most of it boils down to doing things on the cheap. Rupert was in charge when we dropped out of the Premiereship, he was in charge for our first season in the Championship which surely was the best season to have a go at getting back up, he was in charge when we brought most of the players in before our second season in this division yet he seems to blame Leon Crouch for that and now he's back in charge we've got off to the worst start ever, what next????? Obviously I don't want to go down or administration but I fear them both & to rub salt in the wounds Ruprt will probably by the club back for £1 or so & we'll be back to square one. Sorry to be negative just before Christmas but it's getting beyond a joke now. After all that I'll still be there next Sunday, I might go to Plymouth on Boxing day, & I will still be there next season, we've all seen some changes over the past few seasons but one thing that wont change is me supporting THE BEST & ONLY CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST, I hope that there's some more Red & White nutters like me that wont give up. Come on you Reds, new year, new start????? PLEASE !!!!!
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
7:53pm Sun 21 Dec 08
It wouldn't have seemed ideal at the time but think how it would have felt for the next few years, a cheap team with loyalty to the club.
I like a chirp up, but it's a shame what's happening at St Mary's, derby's would have been fun.
Andyt66, Salt Lake City, USA says...
7:56pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Traceyf wrote:Traceyf,
Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
What proof would you like that things have gone horribly wrong yet again under Lowe's leadership? FACT - We are 4th bottom and are asking a bunch of kids to battle against relegation. FACT - Lowe didn't want Nigel Pearson, told him he wouldn't be offered a contract and decided the way forward was through an "innovative" approach that no other club has tried. FACT - Nigel Pearson is top of Division 1 with one of the best defensive records in the 4 divisions FACT - Lowe brought in Woodward as another of his "innovative" approaches to taking this club forward - he failed. All it did was anger Harry Redknapp. Ever wonder why Redknapp has been successful at every club he's managed but ours? FACT - we were relegated under Lowes leadership. FACT - We have had more managers than any other club in the time Lowe has been in charge. Now it's pure speculation on my part, but I believe such turmoil creates the wrong environment for a club and it's team to progress.
As for Derek, he get's everything he deserves. Dare to write a comment that Derek doesn't agree with and he attacks the individual posting.
Perhaps those that are so upset and angry are the passionate fans while those that sit back and say "keep the faith" don't hurt as badly. The truth is we are a dismal team with dismal leadership. Boys are being asked to perform mens work - it's not their fault, they are simply out of their depth.
Invidia, southampton says...
8:07pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Tracey 95% (and thats being generous) of the posts on here think you are wrong and that the set up at SMS needs changing. In fact without Doh-py Derek whom which it has been said is still at the station you are the only one who thinks that all in the garden is rosy, yes you once in a while condescend and make utterances but you still don't get it do you and for gods sake don't ask me to prove it, or that you don't know what I mean
Malcy, Torrevieja says...
8:16pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Malcy, Torrevieja says...
8:16pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Costa Baz, Southampton says...
8:30pm Sun 21 Dec 08
lowe and behold wrote:Plus our team seem to like 'teasing' the fans with their total football, but when the chips are down they don't go all the way!
the third hardest man in sholing wrote:I dont think even EILEEN DREWERY can help us with her healing hands and words :-)Saint wrote:ha ha thats a brilliant name. Im thinking of taking up religion because we`re in desperate need of a miracle.pitbull wrote: Lets all bombard Richard Branson with emails begging him to come and Save Our Saints Anyone know his email addressNot a such a silly idea, stranger things have happen. richard.branson@virg inmedia.com. or richard.branson@virg innet.co.uk The stadium could be re named the Virgin Mary stadium.
Denzil', Chilworth says...
8:57pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse wrote:Wrong, wrong and wrong again. But then again you're a fat Skate meat head from Portsea island. Go and inject yourself with the aids virus and bugger off and die slowly somewhere. Dirty, disgusting Skate.
Denzil the virgin said- "You go and find it you illiterate plastic goon. I cannot be bothered to look for yet another of your pathetic ramblings. I live in the most exclusive estate in Southampton, I have no problems getting birds to come round and slam them, where as you live in either a caravan or a dingy Pompey bedsit somewhere on the cess pit that is Portsea island, gutted! I expect the only people you've had sex with are members of your family. You dirty Skate knob." Oy little lord Fauntleroy Chilworth is a little village outside Southampton, you live with mummy and daddy little rich boy, you wouldn't know what to do with a woman. The reason you can't be bothered to look for my comment is because it never happened. MUG Keep making yourself look stupid pansy virgin rich boy. Football for the working classes Denzil out and take your prawn sandwich brigade with you.
Invidia, southampton says...
9:06pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Denzil', Chilworth says...
9:15pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Invidia, southampton says...
9:23pm Sun 21 Dec 08
doctorsaint, Hedge End says...
9:33pm Sun 21 Dec 08
Invidia, southampton says...
9:59pm Sun 21 Dec 08
doctorsaint wrote:Too many maybe's and might's in your suggestion, He wont have a business if only four of you turn up!! and lets face it anything would be better than what we have now
It's really difficult to make this point, given the dismal home form. But you won't get Rupert Lowe out by not attending. He has to go, but bad attendance won't make him go. He just doesn't care. The business will just go into administration and he'll be back again with more power. Support the club by going and singing and maybe we'll stay up. If we do, we might get a buyer and a change at the top.
Saint, says...
11:15am Mon 22 Dec 08
Traceyf wrote:Tracey, no I did not mean that. But all on here will support Saints through good and bad. Though why Tracey dose it have to be so much bad? This is not my question and you know that. The question again in a slightly different way. Are you contented to see this pain and suffering your club is going through and if so how much more can you take before you say enough is enough? Even if you support this club, LIKE THE REST ON HERE DO to the bitter end, dose that make it right?
Saint wrote:Saint, Yes I know the team played badly, I have previously said so. At what point do I, as a Saints fan, say enough is enough? Never!! I will ALWAYS support saints through good and bad. I suspect you don't mean that though ;-) Seriously, I think JP is a very good technical coach, I don't agree that he is out of his depth but he does need to very urgently review the team tactics and make changes (I have previously said this before too). Yep I agree things aren't looking good. What the problem here is Derek and myself choose not to slag the team or manager off, whereas other people here do and don't like it when someone has an opposing view.Traceyf wrote:Tracey todays was 100% crap, and trying to fight from this point is really silly! At what point do you as a Saints fan say enough is enough?! As to DOH-pey he gets all that he desrves. He gives out far worst crap, and he should learn to take it. He is arrogant and very rude! He said we would win 3-1 today and that we play good football. Challegne him on this point and gets abusive and claims many are not real Saints fans like he is! He is a TRAIN stuck in the station. Tracey we are in the deep doodoos! Jan is not good enough, and for the good of the club this has to change. The prove in front of your eyes, if you really care to look.Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
Please prove that you know Jan is a very good technical coach? I do not think Jan is useless as a coach and technical coach. I know he is and I can prove it. It's call this season so far!
Things are not looking good? Really how far would you like to take this question. There are far more reaching problems to come from this position we find ourselves in. This is obviously worst in the bigger picture than you realise.
As to your last paragraph, well that made me laugh. Firstly the whole colunm is like a double edge sword statment. It literally can be used both ways, and as for DOH-pey he dose. You say he dose not slag of the team. So is it fine for him to constantly slag off other poster, and insult young and old! Is it right that DOH-pey is rude and arrogant towards others if they challegne him? He has no limits to his abuse and deserves all he gets on here. Live by the sword, die by the sword! So both of you say don't slag the team/board even if we mortals can see something wrong, as it should be aloud to continue! Then added to this we should all bow to the holier than thou DoH-pey facetious remarks? Trying to cool when your not achieving this is really silly, and not helping anything, and Tracey I think you know this too. DOH-pey is a train stuck in the station.
wallace-freemantl, Freemantle says...
11:42am Mon 22 Dec 08
If maintaining the share price and balancing the books is put above all else; the best players will be sold, the cheapest maintained and obtained, ditto the management
team. Sell, sell, sell and this is what you are left with.
Maybe not attending St Mary's won't get Rupert out, but I for one will not go whilst he is there. You can of course still support Saints away from home without giving him a penny of your hard earned dosh.
Personally I don't blame the players or Jan. Selling without
investing in adaquate replacements leads to a downwards spiral.
Rupert has other priorities, they do NOT include the team, performances or the fans AND we haven't hit the bottom of the spiral yet!
Merry Christmas Rupert
wallace-freemantl, Freemantle says...
11:53am Mon 22 Dec 08
If maintaining the share price and balancing the books is put above all else; the best players will be sold, the cheapest maintained and obtained, ditto the management
team. Sell, sell, sell and this is what you are left with.
Maybe not attending St Mary's won't get Rupert out, but I for one will not go whilst he is there. You can of course still support Saints away from home without giving him a penny of your hard earned dosh.
Personally I don't blame the players or Jan. Selling without
investing in adaquate replacements leads to a downwards spiral.
Rupert has other priorities, they do NOT include the team, performances or the fans AND we haven't hit the bottom of the spiral yet!
Merry Christmas Rupert
wallace-freemantl, Freemantle says...
11:54am Mon 22 Dec 08
If maintaining the share price and balancing the books is put above all else; the best players will be sold, the cheapest maintained and obtained, ditto the management
team. Sell, sell, sell and this is what you are left with.
Maybe not attending St Mary's won't get Rupert out, but I for one will not go whilst he is there. You can of course still support Saints away from home without giving him a penny of your hard earned dosh.
Personally I don't blame the players or Jan. Selling without
investing in adaquate replacements leads to a downwards spiral.
Rupert has other priorities, they do NOT include the team, performances or the fans AND we haven't hit the bottom of the spiral yet!
Merry Christmas Rupert
Saintlygirl, Southampton says...
2:01pm Mon 22 Dec 08
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse, POMPEY says...
9:20pm Mon 22 Dec 08
We're not from Portsmouth, hence we knew so little about Portsmouth FC, and the only time you wound any of us up was when you commented months ago on that poor mother falling from the tower block in Weston months ago.
Your vile comments made us want to discover if you were a stupid little school boy or a vile twisted man, if you'd have been the latter we'd have had you for it. As it goes we've discovered you are in fact a silly little school boy, or a man of very limited interlect.
If you were an adult you've have known that Chilworth comes under Test Valley, how dumb do you look now. Nothing you say offends us as we don't really exist.
You questioned us asking if that's your real name, look back at when we asked, it was to taunt you as a West Indian, why? Because of your vile racist rants, another clue you're a child who just says things for the sake of it, if you'd really been that way inclined you'd have gone mad at the comparrison.
Now little boy, you've been mugged right off online, exposed as the deluded, sick little fantasist you are.
Think what you say in future, when you insult dead mother's children it really is below the belt. That along with mindless taunts such as when Mick Channon had a car crash make people despise you.
In your schoolboy world it may seem like fun, in the real world it's not. If we really believed you were called Denzil and drank in the Chilworth Arms you'd have been in the back of a van a long time ago. People in the bar would have done nothing, believe me, at the time we made enquiries.
Is it falling into place now?
If you take anything from this you pathetic little moron, take this, be careful who you insult in the future.
Anyway thanks for the laughs, once we realised you were a child you gave us plenty to laugh about.
But for now disappear, you are seen as beneath contempt on this site, you offer nothing apart from childish comments, you have been exposed for what you are, the lack of support you've been given shows what others think of you, go, leave the site and never bother us again.
To anyone else we insulted, sorry, we had to make it look real, but notice the good stuff was saved for Denzil.
Traceyf, Southampton says...
1:32am Tue 23 Dec 08
Andyt66 wrote:Andy,
Traceyf wrote:Traceyf, What proof would you like that things have gone horribly wrong yet again under Lowe's leadership? FACT - We are 4th bottom and are asking a bunch of kids to battle against relegation. FACT - Lowe didn't want Nigel Pearson, told him he wouldn't be offered a contract and decided the way forward was through an "innovative" approach that no other club has tried. FACT - Nigel Pearson is top of Division 1 with one of the best defensive records in the 4 divisions FACT - Lowe brought in Woodward as another of his "innovative" approaches to taking this club forward - he failed. All it did was anger Harry Redknapp. Ever wonder why Redknapp has been successful at every club he's managed but ours? FACT - we were relegated under Lowes leadership. FACT - We have had more managers than any other club in the time Lowe has been in charge. Now it's pure speculation on my part, but I believe such turmoil creates the wrong environment for a club and it's team to progress. As for Derek, he get's everything he deserves. Dare to write a comment that Derek doesn't agree with and he attacks the individual posting. Perhaps those that are so upset and angry are the passionate fans while those that sit back and say "keep the faith" don't hurt as badly. The truth is we are a dismal team with dismal leadership. Boys are being asked to perform mens work - it's not their fault, they are simply out of their depth.Invidia wrote: Just got in from the local, where we were supposed to have a celebration drink on beating Nott. Forest we had a wake instead. So I have decided to write something positive on here, so here goes. We were absolete Sh1te, and if Doh-pey Derek, Tracey Fu**ing (wheres your proof) and all the other nutters who have been on here keeping the froth I only have one thing to say RL must go, and in the immortal words of Denzil take your Dutch boyfriends and all those idiots who keep on keeping the froth with you. post script. The wife has just put the cat in the oven and my dinner outside, but another positive she listened to the match on the radio and agrees with me, We are absolete crapYou really dispise people who have a different oppinion to your own don't you. Why do you keep attacking Derek for being optimistic? As for my wanting proof of things, people make allegations but never back them up, are we to accept an allegation in blind faith? In another thread you asked me for some proof, I replied to ask what you require proof off but you haven't told me you.
I can see quite clearly that things aren't going well, I just choose not to slagg off the team and management.
Pearson wasn't kept on by Lowe because of wage constraints. On the subject of Pearson (who I agree is doing a great job at Leicester), he is managing a championship side that is in the first division. How well would Leicester would be doing this season if they were in the champioship is anyones guess just as it is anyones guess at how well Saints would be doing if Pearson was still manager here.
Fact, we were relegated while th eteam was under Redknapps management. What were the actual reasons for getting religated? Was it the team didn't score enough goals? Was it the team conceeded to many goals? Did the manager not get the best out of the players? Was it that the players weren't good enough? Was it all Lowes fault? Was it a combination of a number of different things? I say it was a combination of a number of things, you may disagree.
Clive Woodwards appointment was a strange one indeed and I have never said it was good nor bad, I will say however that there is probably not a better coach in anysport that is as good at the technical aspects of coaching a team than Woodward. That is my oppinion, yours may differ.
I agree that a high turnover of managers creates instability.
Traceyf, Southampton says...
1:36am Tue 23 Dec 08
Invidia wrote:Invidia,
St Compo RL has failed SFC time and time again and I have already said his departure would add some finances to the club and with some sensible ticket priceing which yesterday prooved, we could add some money to the club to move forward, I have no doubt that a united fanbase would be benificial to the club, I just hope that it is not too late. There is not one good reason for RL to stay, he is not only a bad business man but also a bad influence on the manager and the team in the real world of business he would have been removed long before now. He has had two shots at it and failed miserably. what makes you think that his departure would not be the solution to the problem at the moment. Rome burned whilst Nero FIDDLED. Tracey 95% (and thats being generous) of the posts on here think you are wrong and that the set up at SMS needs changing. In fact without Doh-py Derek whom which it has been said is still at the station you are the only one who thinks that all in the garden is rosy, yes you once in a while condescend and make utterances but you still don't get it do you and for gods sake don't ask me to prove it, or that you don't know what I mean
Where have I said the set up at Saints doesn't need changing? I only support the set up we currently have because that is what we have got, I have never claimed it to be perfect.
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Saint, says...
6:17pm Sat 20 Dec 08
Jan really getting sick of your constant excuses. Your not up to the task!You promised so much more before the game agian, and again it is clear you are trying to get people to belief in you, by talking yourself up. Yet your record with Saints stinks, and says different!
Outclassed us....not difficult when your playing a Jan side. This gamble is not working at all and it is time for some drastic and positive action before we are sent to the deep darkest depths!