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10:30pm Thursday 2nd April 2009 in Saints News
By Gareth Lewis, Business Editor
THE desperate search for a saviour for Southampton Football Club has begun as its parent company Southampton Leisure Holdings entered administration today.
It has also been revealed that unless a buyer steps in, Southampton Football Club may not exist come the end of the football season in May.
Administrators from accountants Begbies Traynor took official control of the stock market listed company that controls the football club, shortly before 12pm.
It was two hours later than expected, due to a late expression of interest in buying the company last night.
However the unnamed party were unable to provide proof of funds before a 7.30pm deadline, according to administrator Mark Fry.
This morning, Saints chairman Michael Wilde, chief executive Rupert Lowe and director Andrew Cowen formally resigned from the boardrooms of both SLH and the football club and walked away from the business.
Press Conference - part one
Financial director David Jones is once again the only survivor, after surviving a succession of previous culls of executives at St Mary’s.
Administrators have also appointed a new director to the football board with no previous connection to the club to help with its day to day running.
It marks an ignominious end to the second chapter of both Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde’s management of the club, with its shares suspended on the AIM junior stock exchange and its immediate future in doubt.
Video: "Saints fans have a role to play"
It also signals the start of a 24-day countdown to stop the weight of debt, which has now climbed above £30m, crushing the club into oblivion before the end of the season.
There are just 24 days to go before the club’s final home game against Burnley, on April 25, which is the last of three remaining home games, each of which is a crucial opportunity to fill Saints’ empty coffers.
Mr Fry said there was a very real risk of the football club having to fold if a buyer was not found by the end of the season.
He prompted the fans back to the stadium in an attempt to improve the financial position and to make the club as attractive as possible to potential buyers.
However, even if sell-out crowds return to roar their support from the terraces at St Mary’s, if the club hasn’t found a buyer by the end of the season, it could disappear completely.
After the Daily Echo revealed the shock collapse of the company’s precarious financial situation yesterday, wealthy Saints fans were immediately offering cash to help it stay afloat.
Looking for potential buyers
But the sums they are able to offer are likely to be dwarfed by the debt mountain that sees the money owed to Norwich Union on the £34m stadium standing at £24m, while the company owes more than £4m to Barclays Bank and has an array of other minor creditors.
Comments(189)
BP
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9:08am Thu 2 Apr 09
St.Yorkie wrote:Well said.
Finances so bad - get £500,000 in from season ticket sales for next season to keep the wolf drom the doors! The players need to not take any money for the next 24-days - after all they earn in excess of the normal working man. Show the fans they mean business too!
UTS
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9:08am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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9:12am Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza
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9:12am Thu 2 Apr 09
Saints No 1 Fan
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9:13am Thu 2 Apr 09
Burnsbag
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9:13am Thu 2 Apr 09
UTS
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9:14am Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun
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9:15am Thu 2 Apr 09
Martin Orford
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9:16am Thu 2 Apr 09
Help The Saints
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9:19am Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza wrote:Couldn't agree more. I will gladly put my £10 in as well as buy my season ticket for next year and attend the remaining games.
£10 from each of the 122,000 fans on the Saints ticket database? £1.2m should see us through to the end of the season.
Saintbob
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9:20am Thu 2 Apr 09
Le Tissier's Nose
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9:21am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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9:21am Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun wrote:Why don`t you come down and express your obviously well thought out opinion (!) at SMS on Saturday. You have no place on this website so Eff off. This football club is a passion of hundreds of thousands of people across the world.
They dont save a horse thats gone lame, so why save this lame donkey of a club?
jezza
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9:22am Thu 2 Apr 09
St.Yorkie
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9:23am Thu 2 Apr 09
BP wrote:Must confess had no intention of coming until this morning! Sent an e-mail to Luker in the ticket office to see if Block 1 or Block 2 open for business with the hoards flocking to SMS. Not sure the hoards will be there but the sheer joy of people like me will make SMS a much happier place.
St.Yorkie wrote: Finances so bad - get £500,000 in from season ticket sales for next season to keep the wolf drom the doors! The players need to not take any money for the next 24-days - after all they earn in excess of the normal working man. Show the fans they mean business too!Well said. Ive viewed your comments throughout this season and largely agreed. Will you now be attending on Saturday now that Lowe has gone?
Bring Back The Dell
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9:24am Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza wrote:Great idea. We need more proactive thought. We have all been stale for too long. Even if it meant going around with buckets collecting money on Saturday it has to be worth it.
£10 from each of the 122,000 fans on the Saints ticket database? £1.2m should see us through to the end of the season.
c0rsa28
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9:28am Thu 2 Apr 09
cpnhaddock
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9:30am Thu 2 Apr 09
chip eater
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9:33am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bassett Boy
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9:33am Thu 2 Apr 09
StDave
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9:33am Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun
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9:35am Thu 2 Apr 09
chip eater wrote:If there is still a club playing in any league.
i'm going back and i'll buy a season ticket again no matter what league we end up in. we will get our club back. I can return open hearted without the feeling of resentment and distaste.
Charlie George's Lawnmower
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9:36am Thu 2 Apr 09
Charlie George's Lawnmower
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9:39am Thu 2 Apr 09
Saints No 1 Fan
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9:40am Thu 2 Apr 09
upthe
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9:41am Thu 2 Apr 09
Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
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9:45am Thu 2 Apr 09
BP
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9:46am Thu 2 Apr 09
St.Yorkie wrote:Good Man.
BP wrote:Must confess had no intention of coming until this morning! Sent an e-mail to Luker in the ticket office to see if Block 1 or Block 2 open for business with the hoards flocking to SMS. Not sure the hoards will be there but the sheer joy of people like me will make SMS a much happier place.St.Yorkie wrote: Finances so bad - get £500,000 in from season ticket sales for next season to keep the wolf drom the doors! The players need to not take any money for the next 24-days - after all they earn in excess of the normal working man. Show the fans they mean business too!Well said. Ive viewed your comments throughout this season and largely agreed. Will you now be attending on Saturday now that Lowe has gone?
Saint Cope
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9:55am Thu 2 Apr 09
c0rsa28
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10:04am Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint
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10:10am Thu 2 Apr 09
helltowatch
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10:24am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bigrich1980
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10:25am Thu 2 Apr 09
OwenTheSaint
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10:31am Thu 2 Apr 09
San Marco
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10:31am Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun wrote:So it's the fans' fault. If you say each 'missing' fan costs £30 then to get a £30 million debt that means 1 million missing fans this season which is 50,000 per game. No wonder SMS has looked so empty.
chip eater wrote:If there is still a club playing in any league.
i'm going back and i'll buy a season ticket again no matter what league we end up in. we will get our club back. I can return open hearted without the feeling of resentment and distaste.
That kind of support is exactly what has put the club in the position it is. You lot are clueless, and the fans not going are what has got the club into this state.
dannyfloyd
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10:32am Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint
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10:33am Thu 2 Apr 09
teh
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10:33am Thu 2 Apr 09
Court Jester Crew
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10:35am Thu 2 Apr 09
ractac
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10:38am Thu 2 Apr 09
Duncan Disorderly
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10:40am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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10:41am Thu 2 Apr 09
Maverell
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10:45am Thu 2 Apr 09
TC1
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11:01am Thu 2 Apr 09
chip eater
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11:04am Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun wrote:idiot! should all germans have followed Hitler regardless of his lack morals, just because they're german. Those that didn't and denounced stilled loved their country just hated the regime and were taken out and shot by cowards like you who blindly follow. It takes courage to walk away from your passion on principle
chip eater wrote: i'm going back and i'll buy a season ticket again no matter what league we end up in. we will get our club back. I can return open hearted without the feeling of resentment and distaste.If there is still a club playing in any league. That kind of support is exactly what has put the club in the position it is. You lot are clueless, and the fans not going are what has got the club into this state.
Bring Back The Dell
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11:11am Thu 2 Apr 09
Maverell wrote:Lets all give up then !!!
Spending money in the shop isn't going to help - the adminstrators would use the cash to pay creditors... the only thing is a massive injection of cash or a buy out
Bigrich1980
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11:29am Thu 2 Apr 09
Maverell
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11:36am Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell wrote:I respect your point of view and would like to think you are right. Time will tell.
Maverell wrote: Spending money in the shop isn't going to help - the adminstrators would use the cash to pay creditors... the only thing is a massive injection of cash or a buy outLets all give up then !!! A full house for the last three home games all buying merchandise, programmes, food and drink will certainly create some short term finance that might just make sure this club is still alive in 24 days time. This is far more realistic plan of action than your mythical `massive injection of cash`.
acs202
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11:41am Thu 2 Apr 09
Saint Rob
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11:41am Thu 2 Apr 09
Saintbob
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11:57am Thu 2 Apr 09
SidPenguin
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11:58am Thu 2 Apr 09
IanRRR
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12:15pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Saint Rob wrote:Its been true since 10 oclock last night. The big worry is that David Jones remains, and we all know whos best mate he is...
Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde Resign? Please let this story be true!!!!
CasualBantam
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12:22pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bright Spark
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12:29pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bright Spark
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12:30pm Thu 2 Apr 09
CasualBantam wrote:Nice words Bradford fan, thanks.
Bradford City fan in peace. Having being through the administration nightmare twice, I appreciate what you are going through but it's amazing how everyone pulls together in such 'hours of need'. Here's genuinely hoping that all turns out positive for you.
subsea saint
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12:39pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Nicola C
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12:41pm Thu 2 Apr 09
subsea saint
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12:45pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Redbul
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12:46pm Thu 2 Apr 09
UTS wrote:Just using this opportunity to bump this post as no one has responded to it....
Nothing stopping these two now being part of a new company to buy the club if they can find the money.
TC1
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12:53pm Thu 2 Apr 09
TC1 wrote:Answers please.....
Can I just get 1 thing cleared up....obviously great news about RL & co, but if we don't find a buyer in 24 days is that the end of our club?? No more Southampton FC??
Beer Monster
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12:59pm Thu 2 Apr 09
rednwhite1
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12:59pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SaintPaul
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1:01pm Thu 2 Apr 09
St.Yorkie
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1:10pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SaintPaul wrote:Let's not go down this road again. The point is if the stayaways had not done so - the club would still be under the tenure of Lowe & Wilde - probably with Portvleit as well! I make no bones about it - I wanted Lowe never to darken our door last time - this time he thinks he's got one over on us the fans! However the fans, the City, local businesses will all rally round and save the football club - not the PLC!
If the stay away fans had only packed the stadium for every home game this season, the club wouldn't be in the mess it is now, I think all the stayaways should take some responsibilty for the clubs demise. Packing the stadium now is too little too late I'm afraid.
loweout@hotmail.co.uk
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1:12pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Redbul
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1:14pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SaintPaul wrote:That's a bit chicken and egg....The club wouldn't be in this mess if the appropriate investment had been put in place to bolster the team in the first place. It's a little unfair to blame the 'stay way' supporters who were reacting to this situation.
If the stay away fans had only packed the stadium for every home game this season, the club wouldn't be in the mess it is now, I think all the stayaways should take some responsibilty for the clubs demise. Packing the stadium now is too little too late I'm afraid.
saintadam
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1:15pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Stafford Saint
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1:23pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Invidia
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1:24pm Thu 2 Apr 09
loweout@hotmail.co.uIf ever they do come back in some way you can bet your bottom dollar the fans will not only boycott but make their feelings felt more than you can or they can ever imagine. Now every one buy your tickets they are cheap enough and as a ST holder I for one am grateful for the boycotters who without their help we would still be with the parasites. RL said "my best efforts may not be enough" we all knew his best efforts would not be enough, now they are gone lets move foreward together!!
k wrote:
As a boycotter of SMS in protest against Lowe and Wilde, I feel so happy today that I am able to go down at lunch time to buy 2 tickets for Saturdays game. This will be the first time I have spent any money at the club this season as a result of my protest against you know who, and I encourage all supporters to pop into the Saints shop and buy some merchandise, buy beers and food at the game inside the stadium and programmes etc. The healing starts now, and it will take every fan to play their part..... something Lowe failed to realise until it was too late. See you all at SMS.... I have a feeling it will be sell out!! CORY ps What happens to Lowe and Wildes shares..... any chance of them regaining power buy rebuying the club for next to nothing?
Invidia
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1:30pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer
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1:35pm Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza
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1:39pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Linguist
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1:40pm Thu 2 Apr 09
helltowatch
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1:42pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer wrote:Dream on!
Loser club, loser fans. The sooner the plug is pulled on Hampshire's 2nd team the better!
Major Sir Jerry Pending
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1:51pm Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza
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1:53pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SAD SAINT
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1:59pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Fides
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2:05pm Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint wrote:I hope you never get a job at business planning. Sigh.
The Echo said there are 200,000 people on Saints database.... if every one spent £5.00 at the shop.... there is our first million pounds
St.Yorkie
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2:06pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SAD SAINT wrote:Give it a rest - my face is the same in a mirror. I rest in peace and have no regrets about not going to SMS.
I hope all of you stay away fans can look at yourselves in the mirror as you have all contributed to this sad situation. R.I.P SFC
Saint Rob
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2:07pm Thu 2 Apr 09
ColaCola
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2:11pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Burnsbag wrote:And girls!!!!
Three full houses now boys, please.
Stafford Saint
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2:11pm Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint
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2:17pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Fides wrote:Never mind the business planning mate.... I have spent five times that this morning on things i don't really need, but, once a Saint, ALWAYS a Saint
suttonsaint wrote: The Echo said there are 200,000 people on Saints database.... if every one spent £5.00 at the shop.... there is our first million poundsI hope you never get a job at business planning. Sigh. Still buying things in the shop will definitely help even if you do think they come free to the shop. Pity there weren't a few more doing that for the rest of the season but hey ho. Roll on Saturday.
BRIAN from bartley
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2:21pm Thu 2 Apr 09
loweout@hotmail.co.uk
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2:31pm Thu 2 Apr 09
loweout
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2:38pm Thu 2 Apr 09
loweout
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2:38pm Thu 2 Apr 09
S.A. SAINT
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2:42pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer
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2:43pm Thu 2 Apr 09
S.A. SAINT wrote:I'll have a slice of that pie!
I'll sell my wife to save the club. Any takers ?
sausage monkey
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2:44pm Thu 2 Apr 09
The Exiled Saint
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2:44pm Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint
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2:47pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer
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2:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint wrote:I've said it before- LOSER FANS!
What are the ECHO doing for Saturday? How about some freebies, balloons, streamers, wigs, gazoos,flags, banners, stickers? SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING 'ECHO'?
suttonsaint
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2:54pm Thu 2 Apr 09
helltowatch
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3:00pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer wrote:Get back to taking an interest in your own affairs and wondering what happened to the stadium that not going to happen or why you continue to train on a school playing fields in Southampton!
suttonsaint wrote: What are the ECHO doing for Saturday? How about some freebies, balloons, streamers, wigs, gazoos,flags, banners, stickers? SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING 'ECHO'?I've said it before- LOSER FANS!
ColaCola
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3:02pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer wrote:Says he spending his day reading about a "loser club" with "loser fans". Go get a job if you've got nothing better to do.
suttonsaint wrote: What are the ECHO doing for Saturday? How about some freebies, balloons, streamers, wigs, gazoos,flags, banners, stickers? SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING 'ECHO'?I've said it before- LOSER FANS!
Stafford Saint
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3:06pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SaintPaul
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3:07pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Big Si
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3:07pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun
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3:28pm Thu 2 Apr 09
S.A. SAINT wrote:Does she do Garry Akshun?
I'll sell my wife to save the club.
Any takers ?
jandat44
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3:29pm Thu 2 Apr 09
devon exile
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3:31pm Thu 2 Apr 09
devon exile
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3:31pm Thu 2 Apr 09
devon exile
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3:32pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Laurie Marsh
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3:45pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer wrote:That is one reason your second rate team deserves people like you!
S.A. SAINT wrote: I'll sell my wife to save the club. Any takers ?I'll have a slice of that pie!
Stafford Saint
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3:56pm Thu 2 Apr 09
jandat44 wrote:BBC:-
Has anyone slung that **** train picture into the skip yet?
acs202
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3:59pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Laurie Marsh wrote:does Poole even have a team???
carltonpalmer wrote:That is one reason your second rate team deserves people like you! Come on Poole Town, the TOP team of the SOUTH!S.A. SAINT wrote: I'll sell my wife to save the club. Any takers ?I'll have a slice of that pie!
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:00pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bright Spark wrote:well if there any good then a quick trip down the M27 to the #1 south coast team otherwise league one!
The player's must be thinking "What the hell is going on, where do we go from here?" When the team comes out onto the pitch on Saturday, what a tonic it would be for them to see a crowd of 30,000 giving them their full support. The fans must get down to St Mary's and help to make it the fortress that it should be. COYR!
Invidia
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4:05pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Stafford Saint
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4:11pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:11pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Invidia
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4:18pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:And to think that you used to be a Lowe Luvvie last week.
***Breaking news*** rupert lowe has been spotted drinking with 'arry' redknapp bearing a pompey tatoo on his leg miming to the song when the saints go marching in!!!
Dickosfc
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4:20pm Thu 2 Apr 09
suttonsaint wrote:Just been on there mate and spent £25. I hope this helps..
The Echo said there are 200,000 people on Saints database.... if every one spent £5.00 at the shop.... there is our first million pounds
normsted
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4:21pm Thu 2 Apr 09
DJI
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4:22pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SidPenguin wrote:When any Company goes into Administration, the very last people to be paid are shareholders, assuming any money is left. So Lowe and Wilde have no control over anything now. The Company is surrendered to the Administrator who acts in the interest of all creditors and employees first, shareholders last.
Lowe & Wilde may be resigning from their positions on the boards, but remember they still control the companies in terms of ownership. Even if a potential buyer is found for the Football Club, unless Wilde/Lower are willing to sell their shares the winding up of the business is still a possibility.
Invidia
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4:23pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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4:25pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun wrote:Come on Garry he wasn`t serious so your virginity will have to stay intact a little longer I`m afraid.
S.A. SAINT wrote: I'll sell my wife to save the club. Any takers ?Does she do Garry Akshun?
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:26pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Invidia wrote:course im a lowe luvvie, cant think of anything better then saints in league one!
Ryan Mckinlay wrote: ***Breaking news*** rupert lowe has been spotted drinking with 'arry' redknapp bearing a pompey tatoo on his leg miming to the song when the saints go marching in!!!And to think that you used to be a Lowe Luvvie last week.
Invidia
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4:26pm Thu 2 Apr 09
normsted wrote:My exact sentiments and thoughts, mind you I will still cheer on my team and maybe make a comment or two, see you all later
God am I happy!! Its been so grim I dont particulary want to think about it,I can now get back to supporting the team,talk football,and look ahead,The party has started and will continue untill the end of the season ,come what may.I will not be posting on here again I will concentrate on supporting the club that I first started supporting 34 years ago,I would like to thank all those that have contributed to the removal of the parasite and would like to say that I have enjoyed the comments and opinions.The Only axe that I have to grind is the failure of the local press to report the mismangement of this club up till now.apart from that ,see you there COYR.
Dickosfc
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4:26pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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4:29pm Thu 2 Apr 09
acs202 wrote:Yeah speedway, they are pretty good too !
Laurie Marsh wrote:does Poole even have a team???carltonpalmer wrote:That is one reason your second rate team deserves people like you! Come on Poole Town, the TOP team of the SOUTH!S.A. SAINT wrote: I'll sell my wife to save the club. Any takers ?I'll have a slice of that pie!
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:29pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Dickosfc wrote:well dicko im sure you would know as your probably sat out there now in your corsa smoking your mayfair lights, besides im to busy with your mum, although taking a second look at her it could be your dad..... oh forget you probably dont know who that is do you!
Oh yeah.. Ryan Mckinlay, your sister will be finishing school soon. You'd better go pick her up if you want to take her out on that date. You might wanna shower first though, i know how much you lot reek of fish
ken j
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4:31pm Thu 2 Apr 09
helltowatch
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4:36pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:For someone with an SO post code your loyalties are misplaced Ryan, clearly you are the type who switches allegiance depending on what division your team is in. Or did you move house to be nearer the school playing field your team trains on?
Invidia wrote:course im a lowe luvvie, cant think of anything better then saints in league one!Ryan Mckinlay wrote: ***Breaking news*** rupert lowe has been spotted drinking with 'arry' redknapp bearing a pompey tatoo on his leg miming to the song when the saints go marching in!!!And to think that you used to be a Lowe Luvvie last week.
OwenTheSaint
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4:44pm Thu 2 Apr 09
carltonpalmer wrote:Come on, lets not be like that, we've got enough to worry about with Saints, lets not start talking about Pompey's concerns too!!
Loser club, loser fans. The sooner the plug is pulled on Hampshire's 2nd team the better!
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:45pm Thu 2 Apr 09
TottonScrutineer
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4:47pm Thu 2 Apr 09
jezza wrote:This a time when we should ALL pull together. We all have wonderful memories at the Dell now SMS and what ever happens (and let's hope SFC are still here at the end of the season),we must put our money where our mouths are and buy a season ticket It's our way of saying thank you to many years of pleasure (be it a bit hairy some times) as a fan of the Saints. The rest can keep thier teams most are SFC through and through.Let's get behind the whole club including the team and spend some dosh on our beloved team There's no room for silly jokes jezza we must get serious if we want this club to survive
Administrators out...and take your furry liquidators with you!!
acs202
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4:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:I would say the walls will come tumbling down at Fratton Park if they don't stay in the Prem but last time I saw they barely had any walls.
not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!
grove1
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4:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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4:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:The funny thing is your club is more than £40million in debt and you have no new stadium to show for it so although you make fun this is just like viewing your club`s future in a crystal ball.
not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!
Bring Back The Dell
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4:53pm Thu 2 Apr 09
grove1 wrote:Because you club is so **** it has no interesting news of it`s own. Obvious when you think about it !
why is this on the bournemouth site we dont care hope you all rot in hell scum muppets
Garry Akshun
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4:55pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell wrote:Isn't it ironic that your club is such a state because of the new stadium and your username wants to bring back the dell. You should take over the club....
grove1 wrote:Because you club is so **** it has no interesting news of it`s own. Obvious when you think about it !
why is this on the bournemouth site we dont care hope you all rot in hell scum muppets
saintsno1fan
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4:58pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay
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4:59pm Thu 2 Apr 09
acs202 wrote:yes and you will have the best stadium in league one till you bust!!! scummers!
Ryan Mckinlay wrote: not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!I would say the walls will come tumbling down at Fratton Park if they don't stay in the Prem but last time I saw they barely had any walls.
londonsouthampton
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5:00pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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5:01pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Garry Akshun wrote:This is why you shouldn`t be on here. The club is in this state beacuse of the people who have ran it for the last 12 years. No I didn`t want to move from The Dell but don`t forgot in the mean time Saints have blown around £20million on players like Delap, Phillips, Delgado, McCann, Ormerod (sorry Brett), Chala and other such wasters so the debt is about much more than SMS.
Bring Back The Dell wrote:Isn't it ironic that your club is such a state because of the new stadium and your username wants to bring back the dell. You should take over the club....grove1 wrote: why is this on the bournemouth site we dont care hope you all rot in hell scum muppetsBecause you club is so **** it has no interesting news of it`s own. Obvious when you think about it !
Ryan Mckinlay
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5:01pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell wrote:yes but we play arsenal man utd liverpool you will be playing walsall!!!
Ryan Mckinlay wrote: not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!The funny thing is your club is more than £40million in debt and you have no new stadium to show for it so although you make fun this is just like viewing your club`s future in a crystal ball.
helltowatch
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5:05pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:Get a life! Saints will always be around and will always have a fan base that supports their club what ever. Not so long ago, your team was nowhere with noone supporting them. Suddenly when the good times come you appear out of the woodwork. Someday you will all disappear again.
acs202 wrote:yes and you will have the best stadium in league one till you bust!!! scummers!Ryan Mckinlay wrote: not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!I would say the walls will come tumbling down at Fratton Park if they don't stay in the Prem but last time I saw they barely had any walls.
Bring Back The Dell
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5:16pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Ryan Mckinlay wrote:If you could guarantee me we would be playing Walsall next season I would we ecstatic.
Bring Back The Dell wrote:yes but we play arsenal man utd liverpool you will be playing walsall!!!Ryan Mckinlay wrote: not misplaced at all, why would i want to pay to watch a saints game! i grew up in portsmouth and after years of the boot being on the other foot am basking in the fun of watching the drama unfold!The funny thing is your club is more than £40million in debt and you have no new stadium to show for it so although you make fun this is just like viewing your club`s future in a crystal ball.
davidm229
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5:26pm Thu 2 Apr 09
d2p
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5:38pm Thu 2 Apr 09
bowwhite
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5:48pm Thu 2 Apr 09
andy newbury
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5:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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5:51pm Thu 2 Apr 09
bowwhite wrote:Unlike most supporters I wanted Hoddle back but it was because Hoddle didn`t have the full support of the board that he did not return, nothing to do with the supporters.
Had Rupert taken back Hoddles then we would have not been in this mess, do not blame Rupert, blame yourselves for the support Hate Hoddle campaign, you know who you are, Remember the Pied Piper of Hamlin,
boondocksaint08
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5:56pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Cherryfan
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6:02pm Thu 2 Apr 09
sodemall
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6:15pm Thu 2 Apr 09
pitbull
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6:17pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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6:22pm Thu 2 Apr 09
sodemall wrote:What are 80`s supergroup AHA reforming ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ,hohohohohohohohohoh o,there is a god after all
milton road
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6:32pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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6:39pm Thu 2 Apr 09
milton road wrote:Unfortunately my friend this will all fall on deaf ears. I have been on here all season saying not to give Lowe the power by preventing you going to support your local team but all I have got back on the most part is abuse. I personally would have never given Lowe the power to decide for me or not whether to go and watch my beloved Saints, yet so many sadly did.
I don't really believe this. There is an 80% chance Saints will cease to exist by the end of the season. there is no magic fairy godmother for this club. The economy is stuffed and they will just be a memory. We need 30 plus million by the end of the season. Lowe shouldn't of come back agreed but neither should so many have walked away. Norwich Leicester, Derby, Ipswich, Sheffield Wednesday have all had problems as well as Leeds. Yet their fans stayed true. It shouldn't have just been about Lowe, the club was always about far more than him. I hope I am not right. Yet the Pompey boys are singing "Oh when the Saints go marching out" They aren't talking about the division. They are talking about oblivion. Everyone is coming back for the last three games in the history of the club to say farewell. Then those who were part of the cause will walk away and tell themselves they did their part. Fair weather supporters, well next season they can go and mow their gardens or creep up and watch Reading or Arsenal play. With no guilt because there will be no club left. By the way no season tickets are on sale until the club is declared solvent. What does the song say Too little too late.However you Lowe haters felt justified in staying away, you helped bury this club, now live with it. To me the club was all about my football team from the mid sixties as a boy until this dark and sad day and it will remain so even when it is gone, to the day i am shovelled six foot under .Thanks for many great memories Southampton Football Club. AND NOW THE END IS NEAR.
c0rsa28
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6:41pm Thu 2 Apr 09
mastershot100
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6:42pm Thu 2 Apr 09
davidm229 wrote:Correct!!!!
So who thinks this is part of a cunning plan by Lowe and Wilde to make even more money - they use the administration as a means of writing off £40m of debt - pop up just before the club closes claiming to be the true saviours and buy the it back debt free for £1 and then in 6-12 months time sell it for a figure of with lots of zeros in it !
Andy Locks Heath
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6:50pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bassett Boy wrote:Exactly - so why not blame the 5000 who stayed away and put the club into this position? Are these 5000 so lame that they let just two men force them to stay away from their beloved club? And I bet they all claim "Southampton till I die" when what they should say is "Southampton until a nasty man forces me to say at home"
We've waited a long time for a bit of good news but at last it's happened1
This will definitely put thousands on the gate, proving once and for all that Lowe and Co were personally responsible for the stay-away fans and subsequent huge loss of income. An extra 5,000 every home game and we wouldn't be in this position, but that's what it's taken to get rid of Lowe. May he NEVER darken our doors again !
Stafford Saint
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6:53pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
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7:17pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SaintPaul wrote:Just like I am responsible for the closure of Woolies because I would not buy the carp they sold.
If the stay away fans had only packed the stadium for every home game this season, the club wouldn't be in the mess it is now, I think all the stayaways should take some responsibilty for the clubs demise. Packing the stadium now is too little too late I'm afraid.
sodemall
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7:56pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell wrote:cos thats the last time they had a hit, and drew a crowd, sound familar,ahahahahahah
sodemall wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ,hohohohohohohohohoh o,there is a god after allWhat are 80`s supergroup AHA reforming ?
milton road
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7:57pm Thu 2 Apr 09
doctorsaint
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8:03pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Traceyf
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8:27pm Thu 2 Apr 09
loweout@hotmail.co.uYou and other boycotters are just as guilty for this mess as those you accuse. You boycotters chose to try and starve the club of money to get rid of Lowe and Wilde and now look what has happened.
k wrote:
As a boycotter of SMS in protest against Lowe and Wilde, I feel so happy today that I am able to go down at lunch time to buy 2 tickets for Saturdays game. This will be the first time I have spent any money at the club this season as a result of my protest against you know who, and I encourage all supporters to pop into the Saints shop and buy some merchandise, buy beers and food at the game inside the stadium and programmes etc. The healing starts now, and it will take every fan to play their part..... something Lowe failed to realise until it was too late. See you all at SMS.... I have a feeling it will be sell out!! CORY ps What happens to Lowe and Wildes shares..... any chance of them regaining power buy rebuying the club for next to nothing?
Traceyf
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8:41pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bob in the city
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8:47pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Traceyf
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8:57pm Thu 2 Apr 09
SidPenguin wrote:Lowe and Wilde (and Crouch) own shares in the PLC, in turn the PLC owns the club. The administrator will look to sell the club and use the money to pay the creditors of the PLC.
Lowe & Wilde may be resigning from their positions on the boards, but remember they still control the companies in terms of ownership. Even if a potential buyer is found for the Football Club, unless Wilde/Lower are willing to sell their shares the winding up of the business is still a possibility.
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse
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9:19pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Carthage
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9:36pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Dudley Armitage
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9:40pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Hello?!?!
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9:41pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Shagga, the genuine lard @rse
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9:45pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Hello?!?! wrote:A sound investment? No I think you'll find Southampton's on the Solent, Plymouth's on the Sound.
Yey Bye Lowe! Now we'll get some fans back at the stadium and some money coming in! Just need a buyer now.... come on there must be a millionaire out there looking for a sound investment! Saints will go back up... us fans just need to stay strong and continue to support them! Up the Saints!
supermac
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10:09pm Thu 2 Apr 09
pugwash
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10:09pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bob in the city wrote:...AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHILE RUPERT WAS AWAY THOSE TWO YEARS,A CASH BALANCE OF £4.5M. BECAME AN OVERDRAFT OF £5.5M.,£21M WAS TAKEN IN PLAYER SALES,AND SOMEHOW THE CLUB STILL MANAGED A £5.M. LOSS LAST YEAR!
There have been many comments as to the delight at the demise of Micheal Wilde and Rupert Lowe. It would seem that few if any of the comentators have any idea about the financial fight that these two people have gone through in order to secure the club. They will have fought relentlessly to stave off administration, not just to secure their own investments but to secure the future of the club. If only the players had fought so hard, players who now expect an exhorbitant return for very little effort, the club would have attracted investment. Of course if the supporters had maintained their support for the club then maybe, just maybe, invetors could have seen the potential for investing. There are some who will remain accountable but then everyone is responsible.
pugwash
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10:09pm Thu 2 Apr 09
Bob in the city wrote:...AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHILE RUPERT WAS AWAY THOSE TWO YEARS,A CASH BALANCE OF £4.5M. BECAME AN OVERDRAFT OF £5.5M.,£21M WAS TAKEN IN PLAYER SALES,AND SOMEHOW THE CLUB STILL MANAGED A £5.M. LOSS LAST YEAR!
There have been many comments as to the delight at the demise of Micheal Wilde and Rupert Lowe. It would seem that few if any of the comentators have any idea about the financial fight that these two people have gone through in order to secure the club. They will have fought relentlessly to stave off administration, not just to secure their own investments but to secure the future of the club. If only the players had fought so hard, players who now expect an exhorbitant return for very little effort, the club would have attracted investment. Of course if the supporters had maintained their support for the club then maybe, just maybe, invetors could have seen the potential for investing. There are some who will remain accountable but then everyone is responsible.
SF76
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10:28pm Thu 2 Apr 09
lionheart
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11:05pm Thu 2 Apr 09
seagullsaint
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12:50am Fri 3 Apr 09
I am Saint Paul
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1:19am Fri 3 Apr 09
I am Saint Paul
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1:46am Fri 3 Apr 09
milton road
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5:50am Fri 3 Apr 09
Bring Back The Dell
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7:03am Fri 3 Apr 09
sodemall wrote:No I don`t remember that one, did it do well in the charts ?
Bring Back The Dell wrote:cos thats the last time they had a hit, and drew a crowd, sound familar,ahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahah ahahaahahahahaha,loo oooooooooooooosers scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmerssodemall wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ,hohohohohohohohohoh o,there is a god after allWhat are 80`s supergroup AHA reforming ?
Brock_and_Roll
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9:12am Fri 3 Apr 09
grove1
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9:29am Fri 3 Apr 09
StPete
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1:58pm Fri 3 Apr 09
grove1 wrote:Your level of intelligence is staggering
Your going back to your natural hhome division 3 enjoy!!!!
Its where your pathetic fan base belong. Giving away all those tickets when you were in the premashite pretending to be a big club was totaly pathetic. Reading next I hope, now sod off our site!!!!
Laurie Marsh
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2:28pm Fri 3 Apr 09
StPete wrote:Absolute class!
grove1 wrote: Your going back to your natural hhome division 3 enjoy!!!! Its where your pathetic fan base belong. Giving away all those tickets when you were in the premashite pretending to be a big club was totaly pathetic. Reading next I hope, now sod off our site!!!!Your level of intelligence is staggering
Ryan Mckinlay
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3:35pm Fri 3 Apr 09
Andy Locks Heath wrote:of course easy to blame lowe from your armchair, you fantastic supporters!!! try looking at the players first see how many donate there wages to the cause????
Bassett Boy wrote: We've waited a long time for a bit of good news but at last it's happened1 This will definitely put thousands on the gate, proving once and for all that Lowe and Co were personally responsible for the stay-away fans and subsequent huge loss of income. An extra 5,000 every home game and we wouldn't be in this position, but that's what it's taken to get rid of Lowe. May he NEVER darken our doors again !Exactly - so why not blame the 5000 who stayed away and put the club into this position? Are these 5000 so lame that they let just two men force them to stay away from their beloved club? And I bet they all claim "Southampton till I die" when what they should say is "Southampton until a nasty man forces me to say at home"
Traceyf
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7:09pm Fri 3 Apr 09
I am Saint Paul wrote:It is partly because of so called "real fans" who boycotted and starved the club of much needed finance that we are in the position of possibly not having a team to support next season. I hope you are proud of yourself.
Tracey,Doctor Saint, Milton Road, Saint Paul and others, You should have seen the cancer that our club has had to endure a bit sooner methinks then perhaps we could have cut it out sooner and given ourselves more time for survival. I for one am pleased that the 'real fans'and 'protesters' who saw this coming months ago stood up and identified what a mess this club was in due to people like yourselves thinking everything was going to be OK. I will be at the Charlton game and Watford away because i love this club and its real supporters. Those of you who failed to see this coming or even worse did nothing about it...look in the mirror and tell yourselves just exactly why you thought everything would be OK.
terry1965
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7:10pm Fri 3 Apr 09
FaceonaBus
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10:08pm Fri 3 Apr 09
Saints No 1 Fan
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11:26pm Fri 3 Apr 09
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St.Yorkie says...
9:03am Thu 2 Apr 09