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Former chairman Leon Crouch helps keep Southampton FC afloat

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Former chairman Leon Crouch is helping to keep Saints afloat as talks to buy the club continue to drag.

The Daily Echo can reveal that the Lymington-based businessman contributed towards April’s wage bill and has agreed to stump up some cash for May’s salaries as well if a buyer is not found in time.

That follows the £50,000 cheque he wrote out to the club on the day Mark Fry arrived at St Mary’s as the Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC administrator back on April 2.

Crouch, who was ousted as football board chairman 12 months ago following the return of Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde, declined to comment on the story or the specific amounts of money involved.

It is understood that two month’s wages for the entire club would not come up far short of £1m.

There were three 23,000-plus attendances in April which helped cover that month’s wagebill and also some of this month’s.

But in the absence of any new deal being struck yet and with Saints having not sold any players either to bring in much needed funds, Crouch’s contributions are being seen as crucial to the club’s survival.

There had been serious concern over whether the club would be able to continue to function at this stage with no new owner in place.

The May wage bill will be paid on May 28 but the funds need to be cleared by this Thursday.

Potential new owners of Saints are being asked for a non-refundable deposit in the region of £500,000.

That will be used to cover a month’s wages while full due diligence is carried out, hopefully leading to a takeover.

Crouch – who was the second largest individual shareholder of Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC with a 10 per cent stake – has also paid to underwrite the Saints Aid concert at St Mary’s this coming weekend.

It is not known how long he will continue to support the club financially while a buyer is sought.

But his contributions have helped Fry buy some extra time in which to find a buyer – but that extra time is measured in days rather than months.

Fry has been trying to knit together a deal in what is becoming a long and drawn out attempt to bring talks to a successful conclusion.

Having set the Matt Le Tissier-backed Pinnacle group an initial deadline of Friday, and then extended it to yesterday, it is understood a further extension has been granted until today.

Tony Lynam, who is managing the Pinnacle bid, told the Echo last night: “We are still working on it and are in the final stages.

“It is reaching crunch time but we are still confident.”

Pinnacle have been talking to Fry now for over a fortnight.

At the same time the Echo understands Fry has been in contact with the consortium being fronted by Stuart Green and Marc Jackson for the first time since they lodged a bid for the club over a week ago.

That initial offer was for £8m up front with a further £2m deferred and another possible £5m in payments due on promotions, ultimately back to the Premiership.

It appears that initial deal was well below the one scratched out by Pinnacle.

But whether any further cash could be found as time starts to run out, and whether there is a deal to be struck with creditors who face losing their investments, remains to be seen.

In addition, an overseas group of businessmen remain very interested in acquring the club.

As revealed in yesterday’s Echo, the group – whose lawyers have been in contact with Fry for around a week – are waiting to step in if the Pinnacle consortium fail to meet their latest deadline.

It is believed the group have pieced together a business plan to show Fry and the creditors if they can stump up the £500,000 deposit and win preferential bidder status.

Comments(63)

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
9:20am Tue 19 May 09

Good for Leon.

Shame on those other rich Saints fans who are doing nothing to help the club in it's hour of need.

Why hasn't the Echo approached Gavyn Davies to see what he can do for the club??????

c0rsa28 says...
9:23am Tue 19 May 09

Fair play Leon, cant see Lowe donating money if he actually has any left, after the collapse of SLH

La Manga says...
9:23am Tue 19 May 09

Hats off to you Leon.

If accused of not having your head in the right place at times, your heart is certainly in the right place.

Patrick80's says...
9:25am Tue 19 May 09

Well done Leon,shame some of the ex directors of the club who have profited from the club over the last 10 years havent put some money back into the club. You are all responsible for this sorry mess and not the fans ! SW left-debt

Snuggle saint says...
9:25am Tue 19 May 09

Good for Leon

It shows who was in this for the money and who was in it for the love of the club

Still think the players could all have agreed a week or 2 with no salary, after all its their poor performances through the season that got us relegated. Its also their jobs on the line, trouble is they know they can go elsewhere and play

Maybe today is the day though - We all keep hoping

Security word

vary-that ? ? ?

SFC4EVA says...
9:26am Tue 19 May 09

Well done Leon I only hope others follow suit and the players take a lower weekly wage for the time being! Afterall they are not doing anything to earn the money.

Bitterne Park Tim says...
9:33am Tue 19 May 09

Good Man.... It really is appreciated.

I still think you spend too much time on the back of the Echo though!

I actually hope Lowe does not do the same, as some small part of me maybe gratefull and I would hate myself for that!


Saint Rob says...
9:34am Tue 19 May 09

Thank-You Leon!!!! This surely gives Mr.Fry some more time to seal the deal!

buffalosoldier says...
9:48am Tue 19 May 09

as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
9:52am Tue 19 May 09

Some people really have deluded minds thinking they know what's going on with private discussions about the club's future.

And Mr Fry is selling the football club. He's selling it as an asset of the holding company.

aliscan66 says...
9:53am Tue 19 May 09

Fair play to him! Unfortunately i dont believe we are any closer to a deal to what we were weeks ago! I hate myself for thinking it but i have real bad vibes on this one. There has not been any report on the pinnacle groups extra 48 hours or so they were given.So what now? Are they out of the running to buy the club? One part of me wants to think that Leon knows something and knows its worth ploughing some more money in.One thing i do know, is that all this waiting and not knowing is actually making me feel ill. It will be nice to see the day when i can concentrate on something different and hopefully look forward to Saturdays! Heres hoping with fingers and toes crossed.

aliscan66 says...
10:00am Tue 19 May 09

buffalosoldier wrote:
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
sorry but i was under the impression that the holding company is no more and that it doesnt even come into the equasion? its about selling whats left. Talks ended on the holding company.

BIg-Al says...
10:01am Tue 19 May 09

So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.

doogle1983 says...
10:02am Tue 19 May 09

top honor skip!

at least someones doing something to keep us afloat. Now Mr Fry if you could be as so kind to find us a bloody buyer that would be great... thanks in advance :S

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
10:04am Tue 19 May 09

How did Crouch blow £11m on players when he was only in control of the club for 6 months and during those 6 months, he appointed Pearson and avoided relegation????

It was Wilde and then Hone & Hoos who sanctioned the biggest spending (to back Burley)

Get your facts right.

buffalosoldier says...
10:04am Tue 19 May 09

aliscan66 wrote:
buffalosoldier wrote:
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
sorry but i was under the impression that the holding company is no more and that it doesnt even come into the equasion? its about selling whats left. Talks ended on the holding company.
nope.
the holding company is what went in to administration, remember Mr Fry trying to reason that it didn't affect the football club?
if no one wants to but the company (SFC holdings)then the administrator has no option but to liquidate the assets, to pay creditors. sell it off, parts or whole.
then someone can buy in debt free, but obviously not in Division 1.

deadly666 says...
10:30am Tue 19 May 09

ive just seen on sky sports news that a consortium led by graeme souness had tabled a bid for saints

and how apt......security words....real-ball

is this an omen?

BIg-Al says...
10:33am Tue 19 May 09

Come on Lawnmower: When Lowe was ousted by the original "Wilde Bunch" - which included your new best friend Mr. Crouch, there was a Barclays balance IRO £5m - Lowe forced his way back in to bail out the club from a £6m overdraft which was an impossible task. The stay-a-way fans forced the administration issue - had all true fans kept coing to SMS, then we would still be OK - relegated, but OK. So facts are correct. Irrespective of that - I have no wish to verbally fight with anyone on a very old and boring argument cuz we are where we are. Let's now combine our verbals energy to get SFC back where it belongs. I hope I win the Eurolottery on Friday!!

c0rsa28 says...
10:35am Tue 19 May 09

just thought id say what the securtiy word is "hour-deep"... maybe a sign something will happen in the next hour or so

saintjofbstoke says...
10:40am Tue 19 May 09

Good man leon nothing wrong with letting your heart rule your head.By donating funds to keep our club alive shouldn,t be viewed as a guilt trip. it,s just the decent thing and you should be applauded for that!! Keeping Wilde in check when you had the chance would of bought more praise.

San Marco says...
10:41am Tue 19 May 09

BIg-Al wrote:
Come on Lawnmower: When Lowe was ousted by the original "Wilde Bunch" - which included your new best friend Mr. Crouch, there was a Barclays balance IRO £5m - Lowe forced his way back in to bail out the club from a £6m overdraft which was an impossible task. The stay-a-way fans forced the administration issue - had all true fans kept coing to SMS, then we would still be OK - relegated, but OK. So facts are correct. Irrespective of that - I have no wish to verbally fight with anyone on a very old and boring argument cuz we are where we are. Let's now combine our verbals energy to get SFC back where it belongs. I hope I win the Eurolottery on Friday!!
If you don't wish to 'verbally fight' why come out with such Lowe-Luvvie nonsense. Yes Wilde's phantom investment + the Burley spending spree make him a guilty man (along with his accomplices) but it is YOUR MAN Lowe who has to take prime responsibility. It was the Total Football Revolution - nearly the last of a whole series of idiotic 'ideas' from Lowe - that finally sunk us and even while he wasn't chairman it was HIS PLC set-up which was rigged to make outside investment nigh on impossible...

aliscan66 says...
10:42am Tue 19 May 09

deadly666 wrote:
ive just seen on sky sports news that a consortium led by graeme souness had tabled a bid for saints and how apt......security words....real-ball is this an omen?
When was this as i have not taken my eyes off sky sports news all morning?

Saints No 1 Fan says...
10:53am Tue 19 May 09

Good man Leon, at least someone is trying to keep saints afloat. If he had enough money im sure he would be on the doorstep and bought it by now, shame he doesnt. Anyway I hope a buyer comes in soon!

saintofatheism says...
10:55am Tue 19 May 09

awesome move by crouch,
i still filling my pants up every hour!

greystonesben says...
10:58am Tue 19 May 09

BIg-Al wrote:
So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet.

Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending.

Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found.

It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...

braveheart1 says...
10:59am Tue 19 May 09

Whatever happened to the old addage "If you have nothing useful to say......"
I am so fed up with the inane daily rubbish put on the official website. Designed to keep us interested. I think Crouch's gesture is too little too late. I will gladly send them a £1000 cheque if the players (Who played a big,big part in getting us into this mess forfeit their next two months over inflated and undeserved salaries. park-have

SFC4EVA says...
11:01am Tue 19 May 09

The PLC is no more! Fry is trying to sell the Football Club not the holding company!

Security word loss-loan

saintofatheism says...
11:04am Tue 19 May 09

we need to squeeze some cash out of graig david- hes not exactly skint- and hes a fan in some form or another-

aliscan66 says...
11:08am Tue 19 May 09

SFC4EVA wrote:
The PLC is no more! Fry is trying to sell the Football Club not the holding company! Security word loss-loan
Thank-you SFC4EVA i pretty much thought that was the case. Talks on the holding company ended back last week sometime as i understood it!

StDave says...
11:08am Tue 19 May 09

read the echo article in untold stories http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/sport/saints/
untoldstories/436836
6.Were_execs_right_a
ll_along_/

To quote :-
“Some of the people who spoke out against the SISU bid are now going around asking fans to put their hands in their pockets to save the club.

“The ego of some major shareholders is to blame for what’s happened.

“Jim Hone used to say ‘the money is not there’ when other directors wanted money spending to support George Burley.

“That’s why Jim used to get one of the non executives to sign all the contracts of players that were signed.

“Jim was worried the business didn’t have the money required.”

Who was this non-executive signing all the players contracts. My guess is Leon Crouch.
Fair play to the guy for putting some money in but it was announced that he was paying players wages 2 seasons ago (Guthrie or Potter) and when the truth came out Leons cheques had never been cashed. Still if he can come up with the £2M he's been waving around for the last 3 seasons and it doesn't all end up in Jason Euell's bank account there's a chance the club might survive until next month when more obscene wages have to be paid.

Traceyf says...
11:08am Tue 19 May 09

San Marco wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: Come on Lawnmower: When Lowe was ousted by the original "Wilde Bunch" - which included your new best friend Mr. Crouch, there was a Barclays balance IRO £5m - Lowe forced his way back in to bail out the club from a £6m overdraft which was an impossible task. The stay-a-way fans forced the administration issue - had all true fans kept coing to SMS, then we would still be OK - relegated, but OK. So facts are correct. Irrespective of that - I have no wish to verbally fight with anyone on a very old and boring argument cuz we are where we are. Let's now combine our verbals energy to get SFC back where it belongs. I hope I win the Eurolottery on Friday!!
If you don't wish to 'verbally fight' why come out with such Lowe-Luvvie nonsense. Yes Wilde's phantom investment + the Burley spending spree make him a guilty man (along with his accomplices) but it is YOUR MAN Lowe who has to take prime responsibility. It was the Total Football Revolution - nearly the last of a whole series of idiotic 'ideas' from Lowe - that finally sunk us and even while he wasn't chairman it was HIS PLC set-up which was rigged to make outside investment nigh on impossible...
Lots of companies are owned by holding companies but they still easily manage to attract investment.

Crouch played his part in this mess by backing Wilde and his plans.

The bottom line is Lowe, Crouch, Wilde, the boardroom merry go round and the fans that boycotted to deliberatly starve the club of money when Lowe returned are all to blame for the situation we are now in.

StDave says...
11:15am Tue 19 May 09

greystonesben wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.

mr_lee_white@hotmail.com says...
11:26am Tue 19 May 09


Thank-you Mr Crouch

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
11:29am Tue 19 May 09

Anyone who thinks we would win a points deduction appeal is thicker than Mr Thicky Thick Thick of Thicktown.

The situation the club is in now, would be exactly the same if we had 5,000 more fans every home match.

It wasn't and never has been the fans who have ruined this club, it's been Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde & Guy Askham.

Those three have ruined Southampton FC.

Those three should be banned for life from St Mary's.

They are vermin

Bitterne Park Tim says...
11:30am Tue 19 May 09

StDave wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.
Leave Crouch alone..... he is trying to deal with what is happening today.. not 6 or 12 months ago. And as for there being no chance of an appeal, I would love to know where you got that from, I have not heard anything to say we cannot appeal the deduction.... it just so happens there is more focus on selling the club...

saintjofbstoke says...
11:45am Tue 19 May 09

As far as i know we can still appeal the 10 point deduction.I fear it will be in vain though.Mawhinney has his claws out and wants red and white blood!! Defo leave crouch alone at least he's trying to do somthing.

StDave says...
11:46am Tue 19 May 09

Bitterne Park Tim wrote:
StDave wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.
Leave Crouch alone..... he is trying to deal with what is happening today.. not 6 or 12 months ago. And as for there being no chance of an appeal, I would love to know where you got that from, I have not heard anything to say we cannot appeal the deduction.... it just so happens there is more focus on selling the club...
I would love to know where you got the idea that I said we couldn't appeal. I said we had lost any chance of winning an appeal when an ex-chairman announces on national radio that the company structure was set up to cheat the points deduction.

montecristosaint says...
11:49am Tue 19 May 09

BIg-Al wrote:
So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
You all need to calm down.Lowe is history he would be lynched if he showed his face there again the only Lowe orientated matter i am interested in is whether there is going to be an enquiry into the way he ran the club. The man was a director 0f 49 companies and remains a director of 21 of these. It also happense to be the case that over twenty of the PLC shareholders were nominee companies owned by peple who did not want their shareholdings revealed. That worries me.

Redhat says...
12:09pm Tue 19 May 09

Despite what any Saints fan on here says... im extremely greatful that you have allowed our club to live a little longer in the hope that the future is Red and White...

at least you put your money into the club when NO- ONE else does or indeed has!!!

i am hating this squeaky bum time and just pray that our future is secured very soon.

THANKS LEON

upthe says...
12:14pm Tue 19 May 09

Thanks Leon

I don't care if the money "given" is a donation or a loan, at least somebody is doing something to keep us from liquidation and the oblivion that goes with it

Security word: meet-cost!!

San Marco says...
12:42pm Tue 19 May 09

My first reaction to Crouch's unfortunate comments on the company structure were that it doomed an appeal, BUT:

1. If SFC did NOT break League rules then we should not be punished - whatever the moral arguments. Others have pointed to a recent Telegraph blog which sets out this argument very well. I don't think, so far anyway, that the football club has been in Administration. Technically we didn't break the rules. Why should the authorities be making MORAL judgements - their role is to enforce RULES.

2. Crouch was not speaking in an official capacity and he wasn't involved with setting up the 'loophole exploitation'.

Yes it is a loophole and the league should close it but that should be THEIR problem - not Saints'. Malwinnie is an unpleasant idiot and should be sent to the same circle of hell as Lowe...

OSPREYSAINT says...
12:50pm Tue 19 May 09

At least Leon is putting his money where his mouth is, why are there no others doing the same?
I hope no Saints fan is banking with Barclays! They started the rot it seems?

As for the 10 point deduction appeal, there are some legal eagles trawling through the legitimacy of the wording which apparently is not as clear as it would appear, but that is clutching at straws and irrelavant if we have no team. I just wish we had more information about the future, there has been much misinformation and hype but no real detail of whether we are doomed or have any way out of the mess? Just speculation.

Geoff Beattie says...
1:12pm Tue 19 May 09

You lot are class!! You've got the nerve to slag off a man that is practically floating your pathetic excuse of a club whilst you can't be bothered to pay £20 to do YOUR bit!! You really are a sorry bunch...
PUP!

offix says...
1:13pm Tue 19 May 09

Thanks mr. Crouch. You are the ONLY one of the former "big three' to show real commitment to the club.

Security word "live-rise" ..... lets hope so.

Egomaniac says...
1:16pm Tue 19 May 09

There is great delusion on this board and BBC 606 about a buyer being found.

Ask yourselves a simple question - who in their right mind would want to invest in a bankrupt company, let alone a bankrupt football club. SFC has no real assets of commercial value right now, it has just been relegated to league 1 with a 10 point deduction, and because it will be unable to service any of its debts, a further penalty of 15 points plus is inevitable! Couple that with a team of players who are close to useless, I would suggest the prospects for SFC are pretty dim indeed, with an inevitable drop to League 2 at the end of next season.

Would you want to buy such a dismal investment?

I am seriously afraid that SFC will cease to exist very soon.

dannyfloyd says...
1:17pm Tue 19 May 09

i'm so bored now of waiting to see if i can watch football next month. and i've read just about every rumour on here from people who know people. not one of you has got it right. lets ask the shoe shine boy from police squad... he'll know. i'm just dreading a headline with a big fat breaking news on here saying saints are gone. i hope it doesn't happen.

seagullsaint says...
1:22pm Tue 19 May 09

How come Brighton can find a fan,Tony Bloom, who is putting about £100 million into his club, yet Saints can not find anybody prepared to invest just £15 million ?
I so wish Bloom was a Saints fan !!

ken j says...
1:30pm Tue 19 May 09

Good for you Leon, I bet you had bought tickets for the charity game too! like some of us not using the excuse "too far from pay day" or "too much for a kick about" its the club that matters and if a lot gave a few quid along with Mr Crouch's big donation perhaps the investors might be more inclined to get on with it.Sec word pass-band or should it be pass-buck?

Patron says...
2:37pm Tue 19 May 09

Not always agreed with you but Thanks Loads Leon

buffalosoldier says...
2:43pm Tue 19 May 09

San Marco wrote:
My first reaction to Crouch's unfortunate comments on the company structure were that it doomed an appeal, BUT:

1. If SFC did NOT break League rules then we should not be punished - whatever the moral arguments. Others have pointed to a recent Telegraph blog which sets out this argument very well. I don't think, so far anyway, that the football club has been in Administration. Technically we didn't break the rules. Why should the authorities be making MORAL judgements - their role is to enforce RULES.

2. Crouch was not speaking in an official capacity and he wasn't involved with setting up the 'loophole exploitation'.

Yes it is a loophole and the league should close it but that should be THEIR problem - not Saints'. Malwinnie is an unpleasant idiot and should be sent to the same circle of hell as Lowe...
re your point 1

well if that s the case just ask the board to pay the creditors and it will all seem like a bad dream!

Jesus_02 says...
3:00pm Tue 19 May 09

buffalosoldier wrote:
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
liquidation/administ
ration.. what is the difference?

I would like to see what the league would actually do if SFC actually went into administration.

The Football club should take legal action against the League when all is done and dusted. The league has put Saints in a virtually un-buy-able situation by making a completely unfounded decision based on fears that Barnsley or Norwich would take hem to court if they didnt give us a points deduction.

Where where the league when Cov defaulted on Leon Bests fees and then played him against us?

How are the league protecting teams like Cardiff against idiots like Risdale that are making the same "mistakes" again. (Cardiff 32m in debt before they even start a stadium)

Will anyone ever stick up for Saints?

costa gaz says...
3:40pm Tue 19 May 09

Thanks Leon, nice gesture. However doesn't disguise the fact that if it wasn't for you and the rest of the bungling regime, this would'nt be needed.

buffalosoldier says...
3:50pm Tue 19 May 09

Jesus_02 wrote:
buffalosoldier wrote:
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
liquidation/administ

ration.. what is the difference?

I would like to see what the league would actually do if SFC actually went into administration.

The Football club should take legal action against the League when all is done and dusted. The league has put Saints in a virtually un-buy-able situation by making a completely unfounded decision based on fears that Barnsley or Norwich would take hem to court if they didnt give us a points deduction.

Where where the league when Cov defaulted on Leon Bests fees and then played him against us?

How are the league protecting teams like Cardiff against idiots like Risdale that are making the same "mistakes" again. (Cardiff 32m in debt before they even start a stadium)

Will anyone ever stick up for Saints?
i;d gladly stick up for the fans.
but not for a board that couldn't run a bus trip, never mind a large company. the fans have been there along time before the board and administrators and will still be there along time after them. unfortunately it is taking extreme times such as now to flush out the many people who shouldn't have been allowed near a football club. and yes ffs Ridsdale again! what dream was he living this time?

bumblysaint says...
5:13pm Tue 19 May 09

I hope Leon does come back as Chairman,he'd be great for our Club.I
have supported Saints since 1952,in that time we've had some brilliant people
here and Leon Crouch
is one of the truest
and best.He lives Saints.It's not his
fault we're bust,give
him a go,the one thing about Leon is,he's as good as his word,he won't let
us down like some others I could mention,he's a true Saint just like us.

Baybrit says...
5:25pm Tue 19 May 09

c0rsa28 wrote:
Fair play Leon, cant see Lowe donating money if he actually has any left, after the collapse of SLH
You better believe that Lowe has money left. Those huge salaries he paid himself and his cronies have probably been safely stashed away, away from any possibility of being retrieved by the administrators or other debtors. But you are right about one thing, Lowes hand will stay well away from his pocket when it comes to keeping afloat the club he claims to love. He loved the Saints organization because he looked on it as his own private money dispenser.

eastleigh-ian says...
6:56pm Tue 19 May 09

i have been reading this with intrest . as i`m sure many saints fans are .i cant beleive some of the rubbish being put in here like this was leons fault total rubbish hes a fan the same as us luckly hes a few bob to help out the club till its sorted . good for him and a big thank you.secondly some muppet was haveing a pop at lawri mac the mans a legend .i cant think of many outher past managers who give a fig about a club that kicked him of the board by the bigest muppet in the world lowe. lets just get the club sold and move on . no more atacking freinds of the club.

Block13 says...
7:49pm Tue 19 May 09

StDave wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.
Can someone please clarify, when did SLH come into exsistence?

I thought that SLH was set up during the reverse takeover when Lowe first bought SFC. If that was the case, then it was years before the points deduction penalty imposed by the FL, so how was that cheating the system/rules of the FL which had not been written?

Like many I have said before that Crouch has a portion of the blame at his feet. But still nice move to support SFC and get the fans on your side.

Thansk anyway.

San Marco says...
10:54pm Tue 19 May 09

Block13 wrote:
StDave wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.
Can someone please clarify, when did SLH come into exsistence?

I thought that SLH was set up during the reverse takeover when Lowe first bought SFC. If that was the case, then it was years before the points deduction penalty imposed by the FL, so how was that cheating the system/rules of the FL which had not been written?

Like many I have said before that Crouch has a portion of the blame at his feet. But still nice move to support SFC and get the fans on your side.

Thansk anyway.
Block 13 - this says something. It seems to imply it was set up before the 97 flotation:

http://www.footballe
conomy.com/stats2/en
g_southampton.htm

San Marco says...
11:27pm Tue 19 May 09

Block 13 - this explains it all. Secure Retirement was Lowe's company and he reversed by creating the shell company called Southampton Leisure Holdings in 1997:

http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/busine
ss/southampton-shine
s-as-football-clubs-
flex-for-action-1283
284.html

BertCatt says...
12:33am Wed 20 May 09

At least Crouch has staved off extintion for the time being. But, and its a big but, we seem to be no nearer having Saints saved. Soeone somwhere must want to buy us.

Security word tear-role hope not!

Southampton Heart says...
9:35pm Wed 20 May 09

Thank you Leon for your contribution to the wages. Respect.

PussnBoots says...
11:27pm Wed 20 May 09

Take my hat off to Leon Crouch - its people like him we need - not some property developer who is looking to make a quick buck developing the land in Botley owned by SLH and then dropping us once they have got their money out.

Ghole says...
11:45pm Wed 20 May 09

The Echo gets it wrong again. Crouch has NOT said he will bankroll the wages again this month. when asked, he actually says he won't. Quality journalism. The clue is in the "story" itself folks. Crouch declined to comment.... Anyone notice that before you all give him a knighthood?

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