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9:17am Tuesday 19th May 2009 in Saints News
Former chairman Leon Crouch is helping to keep Saints afloat as talks to buy the club continue to drag.
The Daily Echo can reveal that the Lymington-based businessman contributed towards April’s wage bill and has agreed to stump up some cash for May’s salaries as well if a buyer is not found in time.
That follows the £50,000 cheque he wrote out to the club on the day Mark Fry arrived at St Mary’s as the Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC administrator back on April 2.
Crouch, who was ousted as football board chairman 12 months ago following the return of Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde, declined to comment on the story or the specific amounts of money involved.
It is understood that two month’s wages for the entire club would not come up far short of £1m.
There were three 23,000-plus attendances in April which helped cover that month’s wagebill and also some of this month’s.
But in the absence of any new deal being struck yet and with Saints having not sold any players either to bring in much needed funds, Crouch’s contributions are being seen as crucial to the club’s survival.
There had been serious concern over whether the club would be able to continue to function at this stage with no new owner in place.
The May wage bill will be paid on May 28 but the funds need to be cleared by this Thursday.
Potential new owners of Saints are being asked for a non-refundable deposit in the region of £500,000.
That will be used to cover a month’s wages while full due diligence is carried out, hopefully leading to a takeover.
Crouch – who was the second largest individual shareholder of Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC with a 10 per cent stake – has also paid to underwrite the Saints Aid concert at St Mary’s this coming weekend.
It is not known how long he will continue to support the club financially while a buyer is sought.
But his contributions have helped Fry buy some extra time in which to find a buyer – but that extra time is measured in days rather than months.
Fry has been trying to knit together a deal in what is becoming a long and drawn out attempt to bring talks to a successful conclusion.
Having set the Matt Le Tissier-backed Pinnacle group an initial deadline of Friday, and then extended it to yesterday, it is understood a further extension has been granted until today.
Tony Lynam, who is managing the Pinnacle bid, told the Echo last night: “We are still working on it and are in the final stages.
“It is reaching crunch time but we are still confident.”
Pinnacle have been talking to Fry now for over a fortnight.
At the same time the Echo understands Fry has been in contact with the consortium being fronted by Stuart Green and Marc Jackson for the first time since they lodged a bid for the club over a week ago.
That initial offer was for £8m up front with a further £2m deferred and another possible £5m in payments due on promotions, ultimately back to the Premiership.
It appears that initial deal was well below the one scratched out by Pinnacle.
But whether any further cash could be found as time starts to run out, and whether there is a deal to be struck with creditors who face losing their investments, remains to be seen.
In addition, an overseas group of businessmen remain very interested in acquring the club.
As revealed in yesterday’s Echo, the group – whose lawyers have been in contact with Fry for around a week – are waiting to step in if the Pinnacle consortium fail to meet their latest deadline.
It is believed the group have pieced together a business plan to show Fry and the creditors if they can stump up the £500,000 deposit and win preferential bidder status.
Comments(63)
c0rsa28
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9:23am Tue 19 May 09
La Manga
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9:23am Tue 19 May 09
Patrick80's
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9:25am Tue 19 May 09
Snuggle saint
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SFC4EVA
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9:26am Tue 19 May 09
Bitterne Park Tim
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Saint Rob
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buffalosoldier
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Charlie George's Lawnmower
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aliscan66
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9:53am Tue 19 May 09
aliscan66
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10:00am Tue 19 May 09
buffalosoldier wrote:sorry but i was under the impression that the holding company is no more and that it doesnt even come into the equasion? its about selling whats left. Talks ended on the holding company.
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
BIg-Al
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10:01am Tue 19 May 09
doogle1983
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10:02am Tue 19 May 09
Charlie George's Lawnmower
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10:04am Tue 19 May 09
buffalosoldier
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10:04am Tue 19 May 09
aliscan66 wrote:nope.
buffalosoldier wrote:sorry but i was under the impression that the holding company is no more and that it doesnt even come into the equasion? its about selling whats left. Talks ended on the holding company.
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
deadly666
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10:30am Tue 19 May 09
BIg-Al
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10:33am Tue 19 May 09
c0rsa28
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10:35am Tue 19 May 09
saintjofbstoke
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10:40am Tue 19 May 09
San Marco
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10:41am Tue 19 May 09
BIg-Al wrote:If you don't wish to 'verbally fight' why come out with such Lowe-Luvvie nonsense. Yes Wilde's phantom investment + the Burley spending spree make him a guilty man (along with his accomplices) but it is YOUR MAN Lowe who has to take prime responsibility. It was the Total Football Revolution - nearly the last of a whole series of idiotic 'ideas' from Lowe - that finally sunk us and even while he wasn't chairman it was HIS PLC set-up which was rigged to make outside investment nigh on impossible...
Come on Lawnmower: When Lowe was ousted by the original "Wilde Bunch" - which included your new best friend Mr. Crouch, there was a Barclays balance IRO £5m - Lowe forced his way back in to bail out the club from a £6m overdraft which was an impossible task. The stay-a-way fans forced the administration issue - had all true fans kept coing to SMS, then we would still be OK - relegated, but OK. So facts are correct. Irrespective of that - I have no wish to verbally fight with anyone on a very old and boring argument cuz we are where we are. Let's now combine our verbals energy to get SFC back where it belongs. I hope I win the Eurolottery on Friday!!
aliscan66
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10:42am Tue 19 May 09
deadly666 wrote:When was this as i have not taken my eyes off sky sports news all morning?
ive just seen on sky sports news that a consortium led by graeme souness had tabled a bid for saints and how apt......security words....real-ball is this an omen?
Saints No 1 Fan
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10:53am Tue 19 May 09
saintofatheism
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10:55am Tue 19 May 09
greystonesben
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10:58am Tue 19 May 09
BIg-Al wrote:Muppet.
So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
braveheart1
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10:59am Tue 19 May 09
SFC4EVA
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11:01am Tue 19 May 09
saintofatheism
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11:04am Tue 19 May 09
aliscan66
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11:08am Tue 19 May 09
SFC4EVA wrote:Thank-you SFC4EVA i pretty much thought that was the case. Talks on the holding company ended back last week sometime as i understood it!
The PLC is no more! Fry is trying to sell the Football Club not the holding company! Security word loss-loan
StDave
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11:08am Tue 19 May 09
Traceyf
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11:08am Tue 19 May 09
San Marco wrote:Lots of companies are owned by holding companies but they still easily manage to attract investment.
BIg-Al wrote: Come on Lawnmower: When Lowe was ousted by the original "Wilde Bunch" - which included your new best friend Mr. Crouch, there was a Barclays balance IRO £5m - Lowe forced his way back in to bail out the club from a £6m overdraft which was an impossible task. The stay-a-way fans forced the administration issue - had all true fans kept coing to SMS, then we would still be OK - relegated, but OK. So facts are correct. Irrespective of that - I have no wish to verbally fight with anyone on a very old and boring argument cuz we are where we are. Let's now combine our verbals energy to get SFC back where it belongs. I hope I win the Eurolottery on Friday!!If you don't wish to 'verbally fight' why come out with such Lowe-Luvvie nonsense. Yes Wilde's phantom investment + the Burley spending spree make him a guilty man (along with his accomplices) but it is YOUR MAN Lowe who has to take prime responsibility. It was the Total Football Revolution - nearly the last of a whole series of idiotic 'ideas' from Lowe - that finally sunk us and even while he wasn't chairman it was HIS PLC set-up which was rigged to make outside investment nigh on impossible...
StDave
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11:15am Tue 19 May 09
greystonesben wrote:Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.
BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
mr_lee_white@hotmail.com
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11:26am Tue 19 May 09
Charlie George's Lawnmower
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11:29am Tue 19 May 09
Bitterne Park Tim
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11:30am Tue 19 May 09
StDave wrote:Leave Crouch alone..... he is trying to deal with what is happening today.. not 6 or 12 months ago. And as for there being no chance of an appeal, I would love to know where you got that from, I have not heard anything to say we cannot appeal the deduction.... it just so happens there is more focus on selling the club...
greystonesben wrote:Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
saintjofbstoke
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11:45am Tue 19 May 09
StDave
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11:46am Tue 19 May 09
Bitterne Park Tim wrote:I would love to know where you got the idea that I said we couldn't appeal. I said we had lost any chance of winning an appeal when an ex-chairman announces on national radio that the company structure was set up to cheat the points deduction.
StDave wrote:Leave Crouch alone..... he is trying to deal with what is happening today.. not 6 or 12 months ago. And as for there being no chance of an appeal, I would love to know where you got that from, I have not heard anything to say we cannot appeal the deduction.... it just so happens there is more focus on selling the club...greystonesben wrote:Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
montecristosaint
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11:49am Tue 19 May 09
BIg-Al wrote:You all need to calm down.Lowe is history he would be lynched if he showed his face there again the only Lowe orientated matter i am interested in is whether there is going to be an enquiry into the way he ran the club. The man was a director 0f 49 companies and remains a director of 21 of these. It also happense to be the case that over twenty of the PLC shareholders were nominee companies owned by peple who did not want their shareholdings revealed. That worries me.
So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.
Redhat
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12:09pm Tue 19 May 09
upthe
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San Marco
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OSPREYSAINT
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Geoff Beattie
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offix
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Egomaniac
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dannyfloyd
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seagullsaint
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ken j
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Patron
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2:37pm Tue 19 May 09
buffalosoldier
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2:43pm Tue 19 May 09
San Marco wrote:re your point 1
My first reaction to Crouch's unfortunate comments on the company structure were that it doomed an appeal, BUT:
1. If SFC did NOT break League rules then we should not be punished - whatever the moral arguments. Others have pointed to a recent Telegraph blog which sets out this argument very well. I don't think, so far anyway, that the football club has been in Administration. Technically we didn't break the rules. Why should the authorities be making MORAL judgements - their role is to enforce RULES.
2. Crouch was not speaking in an official capacity and he wasn't involved with setting up the 'loophole exploitation'.
Yes it is a loophole and the league should close it but that should be THEIR problem - not Saints'. Malwinnie is an unpleasant idiot and should be sent to the same circle of hell as Lowe...
Jesus_02
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3:00pm Tue 19 May 09
buffalosoldier wrote:liquidation/administ
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
costa gaz
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3:40pm Tue 19 May 09
buffalosoldier
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3:50pm Tue 19 May 09
Jesus_02 wrote:i;d gladly stick up for the fans.
buffalosoldier wrote:liquidation/administ
as i commented last week, and as of today nothing concrete has been announced to the contrary. M Fry will be unsuccessful in selling the club at this juncture. the parties interested which now number 1. want a deal on the cheap. i.e. buy cheap, don't inherit debt, or have it offset against future success (promotion etc). and it would appear that the creditors are having none of of it! they want to see the majority of what they are owed up front. i am afraid for all saints fans it means liquidation. i.e docked another 17 points, and then perhaps soeone can buy in without the debt. remember Mr Fry is selling the holding company (and its debt)not the blokes kicking the leather around.
ration.. what is the difference?
I would like to see what the league would actually do if SFC actually went into administration.
The Football club should take legal action against the League when all is done and dusted. The league has put Saints in a virtually un-buy-able situation by making a completely unfounded decision based on fears that Barnsley or Norwich would take hem to court if they didnt give us a points deduction.
Where where the league when Cov defaulted on Leon Bests fees and then played him against us?
How are the league protecting teams like Cardiff against idiots like Risdale that are making the same "mistakes" again. (Cardiff 32m in debt before they even start a stadium)
Will anyone ever stick up for Saints?
bumblysaint
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5:13pm Tue 19 May 09
Baybrit
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5:25pm Tue 19 May 09
c0rsa28 wrote:You better believe that Lowe has money left. Those huge salaries he paid himself and his cronies have probably been safely stashed away, away from any possibility of being retrieved by the administrators or other debtors. But you are right about one thing, Lowes hand will stay well away from his pocket when it comes to keeping afloat the club he claims to love. He loved the Saints organization because he looked on it as his own private money dispenser.
Fair play Leon, cant see Lowe donating money if he actually has any left, after the collapse of SLH
eastleigh-ian
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6:56pm Tue 19 May 09
Block13
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7:49pm Tue 19 May 09
StDave wrote:Can someone please clarify, when did SLH come into exsistence?
greystonesben wrote:Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
San Marco
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10:54pm Tue 19 May 09
Block13 wrote:Block 13 - this says something. It seems to imply it was set up before the 97 flotation:
StDave wrote:Can someone please clarify, when did SLH come into exsistence?
greystonesben wrote:Nothing but good???? He did a lot of good in his radio interview when he announced the holding company had been set up to cheat the system and avoid a points deduction. Any chance we had at winning an appeal was lost the moment he opened his mouth.BIg-Al wrote: So this is a BIG guilt trip for you Mr Crouch. First you blow £11m of the clubs funds on crap players - it's about time you splashed some of your own cash to keep us going.Muppet. Crouch was nothing to do with the £11m spending. Crouch has done nothing but good for this club. He is one of us, just in a more privileged situation to donate hard funds to keep the company running while a buyer a (hopefully) found. It's your friends Lowe and Wilde who have driven this club into the ground, not Crouch. And following on from that, how much have Wilde & Lowe donated since we went into admin? Remind me please...
I thought that SLH was set up during the reverse takeover when Lowe first bought SFC. If that was the case, then it was years before the points deduction penalty imposed by the FL, so how was that cheating the system/rules of the FL which had not been written?
Like many I have said before that Crouch has a portion of the blame at his feet. But still nice move to support SFC and get the fans on your side.
Thansk anyway.
San Marco
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BertCatt
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Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
9:20am Tue 19 May 09
Shame on those other rich Saints fans who are doing nothing to help the club in it's hour of need.
Why hasn't the Echo approached Gavyn Davies to see what he can do for the club??????