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Marc Jackson's consortium move to due dilligence in Soithampton FC takeover
6:00am Saturday 23rd May 2009 in Saints News
Mark Fry
ONE of the parties interested in buying Saints is set to move to a final stage of due diligence.
The group being led by businessmen Marc Jackson and Stuart Green are understood to have been given the green light to get further access to the club’s books after the Bank Holiday weekend.
However, they are not in a period of exclusivity.
Several potential purchasers have baulked at the prospect of having to put down a non-refundable deposit of £500,000 to enter the final stage of due diligence and gain exclusivity.
But it appears that some sort of a deal has been struck whereby the Jackson and Green group could still be trumped by another other party but can take a closer look at the club’s finances.
It is not clear whether all interested parties who can prove their funds will get access to a final due diligence stage but if so it could be a clever ploy by administrator Mark Fry to move things along with talks having dragged on and on.
Comments(51)
bumblysaint
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6:50am Sat 23 May 09
Chris1991
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7:01am Sat 23 May 09
TedStripes
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7:17am Sat 23 May 09
oldtimesaint wrote:The creditors have supplied goods and services in good faith to Southampton FC. They employ people like you and me and are entitled in my opinion to every penny owed,otherwise guess who pays for the loss; yes its you and me.
no wonder everything has stalled over last week!!!...non refundable half million. If it was needed this is a reminder to fans that Fry has no interest in the football club other than squeezing every penny he can for the benefit of creditors.
I am an avid fan but this has to be done correctly or we will be in Div 2 come theend of next season.
Don`t blame Mark Fry, he is only doing his job.
Security word nice-nose they couldn`t have ever seen me.
Northern Saint
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7:20am Sat 23 May 09
oldtimesaint wrote:What rubbish?
no wonder everything has stalled over last week!!!...non refundable half million. If it was needed this is a reminder to fans that Fry has no interest in the football club other than squeezing every penny he can for the benefit of creditors.
His job is to get the best deal for the club and not entertain time-wasters that don't actually have the money.
Nothing to do with whether he likes football or not but he is administering a failed business that owes money to banks/ creditors that they want back
Southampton boy
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7:37am Sat 23 May 09
So please get on with it.
Good security word "TEST-WORK" it is a testing time for all saints fans hope to see you all at the SMS today
UTS
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7:53am Sat 23 May 09
In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name)
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nosurrender
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8:13am Sat 23 May 09
robhythe
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8:31am Sat 23 May 09
UTS wrote:the club has to be saved! dont care who by at the moment,! hopefully you are reading about past mistakes that have been learned from!
oh dear in trouble if Jackson and Green get anywhere near SFC. These two set up a company in 2007 with a convicted VAT fraudster called Barry Beardall. They hang on the coat tails of all the old faces like Cowen, Jones, Richards and Lowe. In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name) http://asf.narrowste p.tv/mcp?psid=861655 82&ref=0&chi
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doogle1983
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8:36am Sat 23 May 09
Mr fry has to work to gain the best outcome possible for the creditors first then the club.
We can say who we want and don't want but eventually it comes down to who's wallet is biggest.
Yes we would like MLT and his gang but if they are stalling at the 500k deposit even though they have these resources for a 5-year-plan to return to the prem then it is somewhat questionable.
The overseas group??? what are they waiting for? have they placed the 500k if not why?
Nothing now will happen until Tuesday and for us true red and white blooded saints fans thats an eternity.
Fry is doing all he can now. Its finally down to bidders to pull out thier finger.
robhythe
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8:38am Sat 23 May 09
UTS wrote:how can you say in trouble??? might not have a club ! THATS TROUBLE
oh dear in trouble if Jackson and Green get anywhere near SFC. These two set up a company in 2007 with a convicted VAT fraudster called Barry Beardall. They hang on the coat tails of all the old faces like Cowen, Jones, Richards and Lowe. In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name) http://asf.narrowste p.tv/mcp?psid=861655 82&ref=0&chi
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normsted
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8:55am Sat 23 May 09
UTS
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8:57am Sat 23 May 09
robhythe wrote:Thanks for reply twice.
UTS wrote: oh dear in trouble if Jackson and Green get anywhere near SFC. These two set up a company in 2007 with a convicted VAT fraudster called Barry Beardall. They hang on the coat tails of all the old faces like Cowen, Jones, Richards and Lowe. In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name) http://asf.narrowste p.tv/mcp?psid=861655 82&ref=0&chi d=977&pi d=3346&vid=69175 095& br=400&tid=1&how can you say in trouble??? might not have a club ! THATS TROUBLE
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If you thought it was bad under Lowe. Wait for these two clowns to get involved.
Jackson and Green will only be interested in making money out of the situation, end of.
All talk as afc bournemouth found out.
robhythe
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9:03am Sat 23 May 09
robhythe
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9:05am Sat 23 May 09
UTS wrote:Hope we dont get ripped of like you say , but just want to watch some football ! And had to answer you twice again!!!!
robhythe wrote:Thanks for reply twice. If you thought it was bad under Lowe. Wait for these two clowns to get involved. Jackson and Green will only be interested in making money out of the situation, end of. All talk as afc bournemouth found out.UTS wrote: oh dear in trouble if Jackson and Green get anywhere near SFC. These two set up a company in 2007 with a convicted VAT fraudster called Barry Beardall. They hang on the coat tails of all the old faces like Cowen, Jones, Richards and Lowe. In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name) http://asf.narrowste p.tv/mcp?psid=861655 82&ref=0&chi d=977&pi d=3346&vid=69175 095& br=400&tid=1&how can you say in trouble??? might not have a club ! THATS TROUBLE
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Bashfan
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9:25am Sat 23 May 09
Chris 1991 - I wish you were right about the £100K for Mr Fry - I reckon it could be 5 times that by the time he's finished.
I'd rather start with a clean slate in the Conference than muddle on from crisis to crisis.
Good security word -
your-over
hasnain11
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9:47am Sat 23 May 09
News on 3rd May 2010:
'Southampton relegated to league two'
Southampton Heart
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10:05am Sat 23 May 09
graeme37
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10:40am Sat 23 May 09
seedhouse
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11:14am Sat 23 May 09
It would appear that none of the prospective purchasers have particularly deep pockets. If they end up over paying for the club they will then have less money to invest in the team.
geordie saint
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11:18am Sat 23 May 09
mastershot100
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11:23am Sat 23 May 09
Please Mr Fry switch it off!
It may be R.I.P.to the old Saint but we will be singing "Long live the new young Saint" that is waiting in wings.
My first ever match I saw was Southend in 1956 Div.3 South in the great days of 5-3-2 formation.Now I have come a full circle and back to where I started from.
seedhouse
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11:28am Sat 23 May 09
They need to take a sensible view. Also Barclays spend many millions sponsoring football and the adverse publicity of crippling a football club as big as Saints has got to be worst than the relatively small amount of money owed.
UTS
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11:46am Sat 23 May 09
Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ?
Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo.
What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?
St.Yorkie
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12:11pm Sat 23 May 09
On the otherhand I have a mate in Manchester who is off to Rome. He's a real Mancunian born and bred in Stretford. He's a top bloke and watches our misfortune from afar with great concern. He's never forgiven Bobby Stokes - but has a soft spot for us. I've wished him well and hope he survives those bl**dy Romans - What did the Romans ever do for us?
Let's face it - we both follow football's ups and downs - but the guklf between us is almost a too bigger gap to comprehend!
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. We used to be rich - now we're poor...where did it all go wrong?
I believe our board settled for us being a mid-table Premier league side and got complacent. Never get the truth of the story behind the missing millions...but all those Managers didn't help closhing with one person?
Oblivion or Division 1 next season - will life go on as we know it?
Feeling a little down at the moment - should be planning for next season - but all I can think about is investing in a MX-5. For more fun and less stressful than being a Saints fan!
San Marco
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12:21pm Sat 23 May 09
seedhouse wrote:Yes - Barclays chose to put us into administration, they didn't have to, and having made that choice why should they get all their money back? By choosing administration they CHOSE to lose money - we might even have stayed up without the administration, it was certainly that which finished us off.
Fry seems to be trying to get all the creditors money back. If the club is worth enough to cover all it's debts then there was never any need for it to go into administration in the first place because it was still solvent!
They need to take a sensible view. Also Barclays spend many millions sponsoring football and the adverse publicity of crippling a football club as big as Saints has got to be worst than the relatively small amount of money owed.
seedhouse
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12:43pm Sat 23 May 09
There was a rumour their solicitors had checked out the points deduction with the league before they pulled the rug and were supposedly told it would be ok.
It's time some of these people spoke out so we can seperate myth and fact.
Southampton Heart
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8:12pm Sat 23 May 09
ninjajack01
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9:17pm Sat 23 May 09
UTS wrote:its people like you that put people off trying to help the club dont you understand that if someone doest buy the club soon there will be no club at all!!!! i hope if marc jackson does get the club you will be barred for life you ***ing prat !!!!!!
So folks i suggest you all email the daily Echo. Ask them why they have not made it known about Jackson & Green. The company set up 'Trican Sports' to buy Saints in 2007. What was the purpose of it all ? Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ? Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo. What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?
AD74
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9:33pm Sat 23 May 09
saintjofbstoke
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10:18pm Sat 23 May 09
The Grey Mystery
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10:28pm Sat 23 May 09
taylor1066
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11:13pm Sat 23 May 09
The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid.
The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place.
Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan.
As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back.
As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books.
Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.
ninjajack01
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12:45am Sun 24 May 09
taylor1066 wrote:finally someone who talks sense !!!!!hats off to you
some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.
Southampton Heart
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12:53am Sun 24 May 09
ninjajack01 wrote:At last a sensible quote. We should ALL get behind however is trying to save our Club. No matter who they are. The future is what we make it.
taylor1066 wrote: some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.finally someone who talks sense !!!!!hats off to you
robhythe
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1:33am Sun 24 May 09
Southampton Heart wrote:exactly
ninjajack01 wrote:At last a sensible quote. We should ALL get behind however is trying to save our Club. No matter who they are. The future is what we make it.taylor1066 wrote: some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.finally someone who talks sense !!!!!hats off to you
derek james
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9:02am Sun 24 May 09
Stossie
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10:03am Sun 24 May 09
taylor1066 wrote:don't disagree with he jist of what you say but find it a bit unfair don't you think that you are calling Crouch a publicity gaining local businessman when you don't know him ? or Do you??
some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.
I am just glad that he donated the £50k and admire him for doing so, and why shouldn't he want his £350k back?, the important thing is that he is prepared to loan it and keep us alive.
You say you know little of Green then say that he is totally ethical, does that mean Crouchj is not?? and if not what are you basing this assumption on please? like i said I take your point about being annoyed that fans are slagging green off etc when they know nothing or very little about him but just wanted to make my point that thought it was unfair to slag crouch off.
jhp767903
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11:15am Sun 24 May 09
It is also adviseable to be very careful regarding statements being made regarding certain individuals and their associates!!
Rest assured that who ever takes over SFC will have gone through a very thorough process, and any "dodey dealing" will be uncovered by due diligence.
My concern remains that either the lack of money or the due diligence process will prevent a takeover by the amended deadline. (unsubstantiated gossip has it that this is now prior to a Football League Meeting, in June, when club registration and fixtures etc are submitted/drawn etc).
So, like most other genuine Saints supporters, I hope that the whole drama does reach a possive conclusion, and that the Administrator does not overstep the timeline with obsesive attention to detail.
I remian Saints Forever.
TakingLeTiss
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12:12pm Sun 24 May 09
I for one am looking forward to League One. We can wipe the slate clean on all fronts. If someone buys us, whoever it is let's get behind them.
UTS
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6:46pm Sun 24 May 09
taylor1066 wrote:Jackson is a Arthur Daley Spiv. Green a Saints fan for life ?? LOL
some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.
As for slagging off Crouch. Who else has stepped in to fund the money ???? He has also not said anything on donations either.
How did Barry Beardall get involved with Stuart Green then ?
Green & jackson hang on the coat tails of Cowen, Lowe, Jones et all
StPete
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7:23pm Sun 24 May 09
UTS wrote:If you were part of the vetting process for who can launch a bid for the club, we wouldn't have a club next season. I'd personally prefer a club run by Jackson and Green than no club at all
taylor1066 wrote:Jackson is a Arthur Daley Spiv. Green a Saints fan for life ?? LOL
some people on here write utter rubbish and some is driven by miss informed passion. The Green (& Jackson) bid is a solid bid, neither of these two are the money men behind the bid. The money is coming from a London company who have financial clout to buy the assets and put a realistic business plan in place. Stuart Green is the lead and he is a life long fan, un like the Lowe and Cowan. As for a certain publicity gaining local business man who claims he gave the money to the club to keep it alive... not quite true, he donated £50k... the other £350k was a loan he wants it back. As for Fry he is doing his job, playing hard ball but time is running out so he has to let the only bid who has demonstrated they have the money to see the books. Currently the only chance is Green and co and what little I know of Green he is a fan, a business man and he is totally ethical.
As for slagging off Crouch. Who else has stepped in to fund the money ???? He has also not said anything on donations either.
How did Barry Beardall get involved with Stuart Green then ?
Green & jackson hang on the coat tails of Cowen, Lowe, Jones et all
UTS
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7:35pm Sun 24 May 09
ninjajack01 wrote:LOL, behave..........
UTS wrote: So folks i suggest you all email the daily Echo. Ask them why they have not made it known about Jackson & Green. The company set up 'Trican Sports' to buy Saints in 2007. What was the purpose of it all ? Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ? Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo. What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?its people like you that put people off trying to help the club dont you understand that if someone doest buy the club soon there will be no club at all!!!! i hope if marc jackson does get the club you will be barred for life you ***ing prat !!!!!!
robhythe
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8:40am Mon 25 May 09
UTS wrote:UTS , do you want a club or not??? I dint care who buys now as long as someone does ! It will all change again in the future i expect again, but not if there is no club at all!!
ninjajack01 wrote:LOL, behave..........UTS wrote: So folks i suggest you all email the daily Echo. Ask them why they have not made it known about Jackson & Green. The company set up 'Trican Sports' to buy Saints in 2007. What was the purpose of it all ? Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ? Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo. What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?its people like you that put people off trying to help the club dont you understand that if someone doest buy the club soon there will be no club at all!!!! i hope if marc jackson does get the club you will be barred for life you ***ing prat !!!!!!
Linesman
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10:27am Mon 25 May 09
robhythe wrote:So you don't care who buys now as long as someone does!
UTS wrote:UTS , do you want a club or not??? I dint care who buys now as long as someone does ! It will all change again in the future i expect again, but not if there is no club at all!!ninjajack01 wrote:LOL, behave..........UTS wrote: So folks i suggest you all email the daily Echo. Ask them why they have not made it known about Jackson & Green. The company set up 'Trican Sports' to buy Saints in 2007. What was the purpose of it all ? Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ? Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo. What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?its people like you that put people off trying to help the club dont you understand that if someone doest buy the club soon there will be no club at all!!!! i hope if marc jackson does get the club you will be barred for life you ***ing prat !!!!!!
Let the first cowboy that rides into town have it!
As you say, it will change hands again in the future, when the cowboy has put it into administration again, with a further relegation and season starting on minus points!
Mr Fry, by asking for the NON-REFUNDABLE (meaning, if your bid is not successful, you lose it) deposit of £500,000 is making sure of two things:-
a) The bid is a serious one and
b) The bidder has cash available.
If they lose out, then the £500,000 will help pay for Mr Fry's time that they have wasted.
An interesting comment by taylor1066.
After praising Green bid, which he describes as 'a solid bid', he ends his comment with the words: 'Currently the only chance is Green&Co and WHAT LITTLE I KNOW OF GREEN he is a fan, a businessman and he is ethical'!
He starts, as if he is the expert on Green, and ends up with 'what little I know' about the man.
I would point out that the description he gives of Green could equally describe Leon Crouch, who is also a fan, a businessman and is ethical!
deano69
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10:35am Mon 25 May 09
robhythe
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12:14pm Mon 25 May 09
Linesman wrote:so you dont want the club!! ok ! If someone can put up the 500.000 and then buy then great! It must be serious then! If not then you have to find someone else to support !!
robhythe wrote:So you don't care who buys now as long as someone does! Let the first cowboy that rides into town have it! As you say, it will change hands again in the future, when the cowboy has put it into administration again, with a further relegation and season starting on minus points! Mr Fry, by asking for the NON-REFUNDABLE (meaning, if your bid is not successful, you lose it) deposit of £500,000 is making sure of two things:- a) The bid is a serious one and b) The bidder has cash available. If they lose out, then the £500,000 will help pay for Mr Fry's time that they have wasted. An interesting comment by taylor1066. After praising Green bid, which he describes as 'a solid bid', he ends his comment with the words: 'Currently the only chance is Green&Co and WHAT LITTLE I KNOW OF GREEN he is a fan, a businessman and he is ethical'! He starts, as if he is the expert on Green, and ends up with 'what little I know' about the man. I would point out that the description he gives of Green could equally describe Leon Crouch, who is also a fan, a businessman and is ethical!UTS wrote:UTS , do you want a club or not??? I dint care who buys now as long as someone does ! It will all change again in the future i expect again, but not if there is no club at all!!ninjajack01 wrote:LOL, behave..........UTS wrote: So folks i suggest you all email the daily Echo. Ask them why they have not made it known about Jackson & Green. The company set up 'Trican Sports' to buy Saints in 2007. What was the purpose of it all ? Is it true Marc Jackson was made bankrupt in 2004 ? Come one Echo rather than relying on fed PR. Get out there and do some journalism. Lets have Barry Beardall on the front page of the Echo. What will come out the woodwork if these two get into SFC and their chums ?its people like you that put people off trying to help the club dont you understand that if someone doest buy the club soon there will be no club at all!!!! i hope if marc jackson does get the club you will be barred for life you ***ing prat !!!!!!
Deano69 i totally agree there doesnt have to be much money spent !
season ticket holder
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1:21pm Mon 25 May 09
COYR
Ghole
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9:31pm Mon 25 May 09
The Grey Mystery
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10:43pm Mon 25 May 09
deano69 wrote:time to smell the coffee - 15000 to 20000 season tickets is a ridiculous expectation,the players we have would not wipe out the ten points ,and we are not going to be able to even keep hold of the losers we have now,accept your fate saints fans we will NEVER return to the premier.
The fact is that whoever is going to buy the club for 15 mil has a great deal of money after the purchase. I personaly don't think we need to spend a major amount of money on players. If you calculate the saving on the players that will be leaving you will release a great deal of money. I think we need a couple of big centre backs, somebody hard in midfield and a forward. That's 4 players to add at a cost of 3m. The saving on the wages will pay for this. The big investment will only be needed once or if we get back up. The main thing is getting the price of season tickets right. They need to be priced so we can sell between 15,000 to 20,000. Then we need to have gates of at least 24,000 to 28,000. This can be done, Leicester did last year and look what happened. We need a new manager. Eventhough Wotte has be very active during the last few weeks he is only trying to save his job. We need an English manager that knows the kind of football you need to play in the lower tier. Last year we tried to play passing football and it looked good sometimes but the ball was never hurting the other teams. We need to get back to 4-4-2 and with the players we have now we should be able to wipe out the 10 point deduction within 10 games. If we were able to get 20 points from the first ten games we should be in with a shout. Somehow it seems like a Sunday again.
MangaFace
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4:34pm Tue 26 May 09
UTS wrote:Sorry but im obviously thick and missing something, why would anyone else buy a buisness other than to "make money"??? Not quite getting what your point is.
robhythe wrote:Thanks for reply twice. If you thought it was bad under Lowe. Wait for these two clowns to get involved. Jackson and Green will only be interested in making money out of the situation, end of. All talk as afc bournemouth found out.UTS wrote: oh dear in trouble if Jackson and Green get anywhere near SFC. These two set up a company in 2007 with a convicted VAT fraudster called Barry Beardall. They hang on the coat tails of all the old faces like Cowen, Jones, Richards and Lowe. In fact is it not about time the Daily Echo printed this fact about Green and Jackson ??? Why not even speak to Barry Beardall LOL ( google his name) http://asf.narrowste p.tv/mcp?psid=861655 82&ref=0&chi d=977&pi d=3346&vid=69175 095& br=400&tid=1&how can you say in trouble??? might not have a club ! THATS TROUBLE
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oldtimesaint says...
6:45am Sat 23 May 09