Southampton FC staff not paid wages for May (From Daily Echo)
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Southampton FC staff not paid wages for May
1:00pm Thursday 28th May 2009 in
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- By Adam Leitch » Chief Sports Writer
Saints’ staff have been informed they will not be paid their monthly wages today – but have been asked to stay on and work for another week while Mark Fry tries to generate the cash to pay them.
Administrator Fry called an emergency meeting at St Mary’s today to explain to staff why they hadn’t been paid their May wages.
He asked for their continued goodwill to stay on at the club for a further week while he tries to bring the current situation to an endgame and he has called a further meeting for next Friday by which time he hopes to be able to confirm they will be paid.
The Daily Echo understands he told them that he was still hopeful of concluding a deal to sell the club with four parties still interested.
He will also investigate other possible ways to raise funds.
Comments(53)
gregsoton
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12:46pm Thu 28 May 09
XRT
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12:46pm Thu 28 May 09
Sums up Fry.
Channonite
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12:46pm Thu 28 May 09
Not the sort of news I was hoping for.
Looks VERY grim
East End Saint
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12:54pm Thu 28 May 09
Stafford Saint
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12:58pm Thu 28 May 09
I am not particularly interested in this race of minutes to be first with the news! Unless the 'news' is about you, you will always have to wait some anunt of time. People should chill a bit!
I don't know of the e-addresses of EVERY forum, nor do I have confidence in the accuracy of their reporting.
Therefore I am quite happy that the Echo site covers this story a couple of hours after it appeared elsewhere.
stmarysmush
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1:13pm Thu 28 May 09
G3orgem
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1:14pm Thu 28 May 09
gregsoton wrote:This is a newspaper and has to get the facts before reporting it as it may be deemed as slander etc.
Old news - This was posted on a forum about 2 hours ago. Keep up the good work:)
Hope this Helps
nhumby
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1:19pm Thu 28 May 09
seany1966
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1:24pm Thu 28 May 09
The person who sets up sw is taking the p155 now
SW:must-earn
ourkid1984
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1:31pm Thu 28 May 09
Wasn't there a story that Crouch was paying the wages for May? What's happened to that? Not that it should be up to Crouch to foot the bill.
eisman84
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1:42pm Thu 28 May 09
ourkid1984 wrote:Do people not realise that the players are staff of Southampton football club also??
So the staff don't get paid...... Why aren't the players not getting paid! In close season the staff continue to work and the players go on holiday. It should be the other way around. Wasn't there a story that Crouch was paying the wages for May? What's happened to that? Not that it should be up to Crouch to foot the bill.
The £200,000 plus £200,000 at a later date for Dyer is to cover the wages, therefore they are around £400,000 per month. The supporting staff's wages alone at the club wouldn't come to this so yes it does include the players that are not being paid.
As for Leon Crouch, I agree with what you say that it should not be up to him, the man has and is taking an undue amount of flak for being an honest saints fan.
A deal will be done at some point, whether it is tomorrow, next week, or next month. So why don't we leave Mark Fry to do his job, which he is doing well, and just await the news whenever it comes. When it does lets also not jump on the new owners back immdiately and start taking the pi55.
Charlie George's Lawnmower
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1:46pm Thu 28 May 09
Sadly, the more "exclusives" we get from the Echo, the further we move away from knowing the truth of what's happening at our club.
I know the Echo is a business and just want to sell papers, but they dropped further and further in my estimation and it's been proven time and time again that we as fans, just can not trust any "news" they print about SFC.
The Echo depends heavily on it's sales on news about Saints, so it is running a fine line between informing and teasing, or in some circumstances, actually misleading it's readers.
It's my own fault for reading this website I guess. But when you care as much as we all do about Saints, it's natural to be eager for news.
Ciaran
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1:50pm Thu 28 May 09
If he hasn't (which seems to be the case), then surely it is more down to him not doing what he said he would rather than lies by the media?
G3orgem
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1:50pm Thu 28 May 09
people keep up
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/4378684.
Crouch_pays_Saints__
wages_for_April/
eisman84
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1:56pm Thu 28 May 09
Give the man a break, he is not obliged to pay anything at all but his love for the club, aligned with a little guilt as he feels this mess is solely his fault for allowing Lowe to return (which I for one do not blame Mr Courch for) is the reason he is dipping into his own pocket to pay wages.
He wants this club alive the same as all of us. Allow people to do the job they are paid for and then continue to support the club we love
ourkid1984
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2:01pm Thu 28 May 09
eisman84 wrote:I just thought if it was the players they would say so regardless of whether they are classed as staff or not. I would say they are staff but if it was the players not getting paid then I'm suprised that a paper like the Echo has not stated that it is players as well.
ourkid1984 wrote: So the staff don't get paid...... Why aren't the players not getting paid! In close season the staff continue to work and the players go on holiday. It should be the other way around. Wasn't there a story that Crouch was paying the wages for May? What's happened to that? Not that it should be up to Crouch to foot the bill.Do people not realise that the players are staff of Southampton football club also?? The £200,000 plus £200,000 at a later date for Dyer is to cover the wages, therefore they are around £400,000 per month. The supporting staff's wages alone at the club wouldn't come to this so yes it does include the players that are not being paid. As for Leon Crouch, I agree with what you say that it should not be up to him, the man has and is taking an undue amount of flak for being an honest saints fan. A deal will be done at some point, whether it is tomorrow, next week, or next month. So why don't we leave Mark Fry to do his job, which he is doing well, and just await the news whenever it comes. When it does lets also not jump on the new owners back immdiately and start taking the pi55.
Crawley Saint
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2:05pm Thu 28 May 09
eisman84 wrote:I disagree - the players are one of the few saleable commodities left at the club.
ourkid1984 wrote: So the staff don't get paid...... Why aren't the players not getting paid! In close season the staff continue to work and the players go on holiday. It should be the other way around. Wasn't there a story that Crouch was paying the wages for May? What's happened to that? Not that it should be up to Crouch to foot the bill.Do people not realise that the players are staff of Southampton football club also?? The £200,000 plus £200,000 at a later date for Dyer is to cover the wages, therefore they are around £400,000 per month. The supporting staff's wages alone at the club wouldn't come to this so yes it does include the players that are not being paid. As for Leon Crouch, I agree with what you say that it should not be up to him, the man has and is taking an undue amount of flak for being an honest saints fan. A deal will be done at some point, whether it is tomorrow, next week, or next month. So why don't we leave Mark Fry to do his job, which he is doing well, and just await the news whenever it comes. When it does lets also not jump on the new owners back immdiately and start taking the pi55.
If it doesn't pay them it is in breach of contract and the players become free agents - its just the workers that aren't getting paid
Saint Rob
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2:05pm Thu 28 May 09
aliscan66
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2:08pm Thu 28 May 09
Saints Mike
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2:11pm Thu 28 May 09
Saint Rob wrote:I totally agree with you, Mawhinney will use any excuse he can to deduct points from us. I feel sorry for the support staff, they have mortgages to pay, I'm sure the players won't worry as much as the tea lady will.
Now the Football League surely going to get involved again?? Hopefully they will not deduct us more points. Hurry Fry and pull your finger out and start doing what you was put in charge to do.
greystonesben
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2:14pm Thu 28 May 09
aliscan66 wrote:Hmmm, if it goes to SFC, I cant help but think that it would be swallowed up by creditors first...
I may be missing the point here, but players excluded, i thought thats where the money raised from the family fun day were going..to pay the staff wages?
aliscan66
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2:17pm Thu 28 May 09
greystonesben wrote:which makes me really mad as i would not have been willing to plough money into a black hole, i for one went on the understanding that all money was to pay staff wages.
aliscan66 wrote: I may be missing the point here, but players excluded, i thought thats where the money raised from the family fun day were going..to pay the staff wages?Hmmm, if it goes to SFC, I cant help but think that it would be swallowed up by creditors first...
Jesus_02
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2:18pm Thu 28 May 09
Stafford Saint wrote:I kind of agree with this, but what i would like is them to offer an informed opinion as to what this means.
"Old news" I am not particularly interested in this race of minutes to be first with the news! Unless the 'news' is about you, you will always have to wait some anunt of time. People should chill a bit! I don't know of the e-addresses of EVERY forum, nor do I have confidence in the accuracy of their reporting. Therefore I am quite happy that the Echo site covers this story a couple of hours after it appeared elsewhere.
The situation has become so cloudy I can work it out.
For instance we have been given a 10 point deduction for going into administration when we arent in administration. Will we get penilised further?
The news is obviously serious for those that work for saints, although im sure that this is "old news" to them.
But what does it mean for those that support the club?
brennothornhill
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2:29pm Thu 28 May 09
kay08
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2:54pm Thu 28 May 09
Saints No 1 Fan
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3:02pm Thu 28 May 09
Its hideous
AvromShalom
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3:05pm Thu 28 May 09
stoney79
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3:26pm Thu 28 May 09
PS SW: loss-rate, gota love the echo
spoon
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3:35pm Thu 28 May 09
Fearful situation indeed.
sw - shut-beat
???
Traceyf
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3:36pm Thu 28 May 09
Where in this news story do the Echo claim it to be an exclusive?
Traceyf
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3:42pm Thu 28 May 09
gregsoton wrote:By the time this was posted on that forum it was old news too.
Old news - This was posted on a forum about 2 hours ago. Keep up the good work:)
Costa Baz
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3:45pm Thu 28 May 09
Saints Mike wrote:This worries me as well, but surely not even the Football League can penalise us twice for the same offence?
Saint Rob wrote: Now the Football League surely going to get involved again?? Hopefully they will not deduct us more points. Hurry Fry and pull your finger out and start doing what you was put in charge to do.I totally agree with you, Mawhinney will use any excuse he can to deduct points from us. I feel sorry for the support staff, they have mortgages to pay, I'm sure the players won't worry as much as the tea lady will.
They said we were in administration, we said we weren't, yet they penalised us 10 points any way.
Can't see how they can now deduct more points if we have now actually done what they said we had done 2 or so months ago.
Have we now ACTUALLY gone into administration, in the legal sense, or is it a "cash flow problem", that may hopefully be rectified next week?
I hate to see loyal staff missing out on what they have earned and can only hope they can meet all their monthly outgoings, despite their money being late into the bank.
Traceyf
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3:46pm Thu 28 May 09
XRT wrote:Why does that sum Mr Fry up? Do you expect him to forcibly sell the club to someone?
Security word = weak-some. Sums up Fry.
LeC7
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4:14pm Thu 28 May 09
Big Si
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4:28pm Thu 28 May 09
norfolksaint
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4:39pm Thu 28 May 09
Crawley Saint
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5:18pm Thu 28 May 09
If it is the players too though I hope Swansea has signed the transfer agreement for Dyer!
matty07uk
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6:15pm Thu 28 May 09
It would just be nice if the Administrator, or even bidders, treated the fans as grown ups and explained why it is so "complex", Mr Fry's words. We are not stupid and if you tell us the facts at least we know why the saga goes on.
Genuine sympathy for the staff at the club who have had to deal with this for weeks.
Pedant
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6:27pm Thu 28 May 09
An admirable gesture but a quick glance at the PLC annual reports will show you that this would be futile, quite apart from the fact that you can`t sell season tickets unless you are sure you are going to be playing!
The fact of the matter is it has cost more to run the club than the income provides, so something has to change big time. 32,000 for every game would help but is that realistic? Then there is the little matter of £35 million + owed to people who would like some of it back. The league rules, signed up to by every club, are there to discourage clubs getting into this sort of situation. Former directors going to the media and saying the PLC was set up to sidestep these regulations hasn`t attracted much sympathy!
It`s always the fans that suffer.
kay08
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6:37pm Thu 28 May 09
stoney79 wrote:I did the 12hrs for the love of a club that i have supported for over 30yrs! is it to much to expect that Im told that the rest of the work ive done im not being paid for rather than read it on echo website i think not! at the end of the day sfc is my job and bills still need to be paid!
lol kay08, if you'd done the 12 hours for the 'love of your club' you wouldn't be wanting paying would you. Did you mean you'd done the 12 hours for the love of your wages... PS SW: loss-rate, gota love the echo
Graham_AFCB
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6:43pm Thu 28 May 09
We've had this for a few years now. It's not nice.
Begbies Traynor sold us out of administration to people with no money. A club the size of Southampton should be easy to do a deal on.
BT do not appear the most competent of administrators.
Good luck. Here's to the new season kicking off (for both of us)
kay08
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6:44pm Thu 28 May 09
kay08 wrote:I did the saints aid for 12hrs for free! in case u didnt realise stoney79 not that i mined but i would have liked to have heard this story direct from sfc.
stoney79 wrote: lol kay08, if you'd done the 12 hours for the 'love of your club' you wouldn't be wanting paying would you. Did you mean you'd done the 12 hours for the love of your wages... PS SW: loss-rate, gota love the echoI did the 12hrs for the love of a club that i have supported for over 30yrs! is it to much to expect that Im told that the rest of the work ive done im not being paid for rather than read it on echo website i think not! at the end of the day sfc is my job and bills still need to be paid!
flower49
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8:35pm Thu 28 May 09
ShakeyWiffles
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8:48pm Thu 28 May 09
kay08 wrote:thought you lot were doing it for free anyway? That's what I understood
Dont it say something when as an employee of sfc ive had to find out i wont get paid via the echo!! wish id known this befor id worked 12hrs at saints aid last weekend for the love of my club.
FaceonaBus
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9:45pm Thu 28 May 09
ourkid1984 wrote:Just for the record. The money Mr Crouch put in went some-way to paying BT or for the layman, Mr Fry's employers. There seems to be very good money in this line of work. Check out their fees.
So the staff don't get paid...... Why aren't the players not getting paid! In close season the staff continue to work and the players go on holiday. It should be the other way around.
Wasn't there a story that Crouch was paying the wages for May? What's happened to that? Not that it should be up to Crouch to foot the bill.
Dont want to knock BT or Mr Fry as they are all we have got but its a lot like giving a team who for no fault of their own,have run out of money, a ten point penalty. Same mentality.
Thanks BT ( I think!!) BIG thanks to MR Crouch but most of all COYR COYR COYR
" I dont normally get involved with SW but slow-gold, how true unless ur an arab .......Mmmm!!!!!
FaceonaBus
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9:49pm Thu 28 May 09
kay08 wrote:I as many others really feel for you, not just as Fans but also as normal working class, pay the bills etc people. I'm not saying anything will help, but thanks from us all and hang in there. it WILL get better. You are appreciated.
Dont it say something when as an employee of sfc ive had to find out i wont get paid via the echo!! wish id known this befor id worked 12hrs at saints aid last weekend for the love of my club.
COYR COYR COYR
FaceonaBus
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9:49pm Thu 28 May 09
kay08 wrote:I as many others really feel for you, not just as Fans but also as normal working class, pay the bills etc people. I'm not saying anything will help, but thanks from us all and hang in there. it WILL get better. You are appreciated.
Dont it say something when as an employee of sfc ive had to find out i wont get paid via the echo!! wish id known this befor id worked 12hrs at saints aid last weekend for the love of my club.
COYR COYR COYR
stew5018
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11:05pm Thu 28 May 09
saintrooty
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12:02am Fri 29 May 09
captain_fantastic
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8:13am Fri 29 May 09
SW : gate-loss lol brilliant
spoon
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9:33am Fri 29 May 09
saintrooty
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2:23pm Fri 29 May 09
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