Swiss group waiting to swoop for Saints (From Daily Echo)

Wow..... earth shattering... are you trying to tell me that a group of people that wanted to buy Saints two weeks aga are still potentially interested! Such revelations over breakfast.. I almost choked on a Cherio!

well on the brighter side at least it looks like someone will buy us hence survival?

yeah right if they wanted to buy saints so much why didn't they enter the exclusivity period

sounds a bit cheesy to me. We'll have to watch and see

are you saying the story has holes in it

why does everything to do with saints have to be a Mystery ..... its like playing Cluedo being a saints fan .... who is buying saints its Colonel Mustard in the saints bored room with a lead pipe ..........and who does the Colonel want for saints new manger Professor Plum



Professor Plum`s red and white army

So the rumour mill is in overdrive about Pinnacles deal falling through is it ? Or would that just be the echo making something up to try and fill a bit of space in the paper. Pinnacle have 21 days to tie up the deal, which includes all the legalities and going through the books to see just how much Rupert did take out of the club ! Amazing to think someone who wanted to buy the club two weeks ago still would if a deal with Pinnacle fails to go through, great journalism keep up the good work !

***There was an expectation, which has proved unrealistic, that Pinnacle would have had a deal secured by now – and the fact they haven’t has sent the rumour mill in to overdrive with people fearing the deal is on the brink of collapse, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS STILL A WEEK AND A HALF TO DO IT***

A week and a half echo you muppets... jesus you expect it to have happened 24hrs AFTER they went into exclusivity??? **** you must be bored today!

Mr Leitch

Please have a lie down in a darkened room or go on holiday.

You could, of course, do both

Sorry it is not my lot, but did work for firm who has HQ over there and lots of cash.

No more cheesy joke please as with name like mine have heard too many(only joking)

Ringmer Saint

Not condoning the usual sensationalist reporting from the Echo, but the future looks good.

Pinnacle are buying all the assets of Southampton Leisure Holdings, which was in doubt at one stage. If the company had been broken up, we could have lost Marchwood (the source of millions in the past few years) to a developer.

If the deal is finally done, the Swiss consortium could still buy out Pinnacle and give them a quick profit.

Hope my logic and optimism is justified.

Good news about Setanta. In 5 years you won't recognise football as it is today. Donkeys like Rasiak won't be able to demand obscene wages.

Come on Pinnacle, announce details as soon as possible so we (the fans) can finally relax and look forward to a brighter future! What about a statement to let us know progress is being made at least?

The Swiss Group is Ramon Vega who tried to buy Portsmouth for nothing.

The Pinnacle deal hangs by a thread, it could be Vega or bust.

Security word:
drop-kick

A Swiss group, that will be ABBA then, they are loaded!!

AB12345 wrote:
The Swiss Group is Ramon Vega who tried to buy Portsmouth for nothing. The Pinnacle deal hangs by a thread, it could be Vega or bust. Security word: drop-kick

Why would you say the pinnacle deal hangs on a thread?

How do you know this.. where do you get your info from?

Bright Spark wrote:
A Swiss group, that will be ABBA then, they are loaded!!

Correct ABBA are a Group and they are loaded but unfortunatly they are Swedish.

Bright Spark wrote:
A Swiss group, that will be ABBA then, they are loaded!!

Unless ABBA have moved then i think they are still Swedish!

sw- song-wind no lies

I cant understand why matt dosent go on local tv or radio and give fans an update, why such a secrete, supposed to have a multi million pound backer,what can be the problem?

for a bunch of football fans you seem to know alot about pop music...

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There�s no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando
Yes, if I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando...

to be honest i think everyone is suffering from not only the boredom of spending saturday afternoons doing the garden and kicking the cat. fixtures next week though. wonder who we get first! lets hope its southend away. i could do with a trip to the seaside. and they've got that really long pier too which means if i decide to end it all i can at least be a mile out at sea.

I thought I read somewhere that a deal must be done by June 17th,the day the new fixtures come out. If it is not concluded then we could be deducted more points. The same as Leeds & B,mouth.

This story has been lifted from today's Daily Mail.

The Swiss bid is from "a blue chip Swiss pharmaceutical Company"

So it's not Abba, its The Chemical Brothers :-)

dannyfloyd wrote:
for a bunch of football fans you seem to know alot about pop music... There was something in the air that night The stars were bright, fernando They were shining there for you and me For liberty, fernando Though I never thought that we could lose There�s no regret If I had to do the same again I would, my friend, fernando Yes, if I had to do the same again I would, my friend, fernando... to be honest i think everyone is suffering from not only the boredom of spending saturday afternoons doing the garden and kicking the cat. fixtures next week though. wonder who we get first! lets hope its southend away. i could do with a trip to the seaside. and they've got that really long pier too which means if i decide to end it all i can at least be a mile out at sea.

And i thought you were a pink floyd fan, send me a stick of rock from southend

PINNACLE OUT!

where is the lowe lover today I need my daily bit of bull**** to keep me going....

geordie saint wrote:

dannyfloyd wrote: for a bunch of football fans you seem to know alot about pop music... There was something in the air that night The stars were bright, fernando They were shining there for you and me For liberty, fernando Though I never thought that we could lose There�s no regret If I had to do the same again I would, my friend, fernando Yes, if I had to do the same again I would, my friend, fernando... to be honest i think everyone is suffering from not only the boredom of spending saturday afternoons doing the garden and kicking the cat. fixtures next week though. wonder who we get first! lets hope its southend away. i could do with a trip to the seaside. and they've got that really long pier too which means if i decide to end it all i can at least be a mile out at sea.

And i thought you were a pink floyd fan, send me a stick of rock from southend

Who needs Old Trafford's prawn sandwiches, when we can have jellied eels on Southend pier (and a lovely stick of rock!)or black pudding at Oldham!

Is it Abba?

No news is good news!

but i fear its always the other way round being a saints fans.

meaning no news is bad news!!

let us pray that a deal can be done before its to late!!

COYR and come on Le tiss!!

security word- ROD STEWART to the rescue

rossofficial wrote:
No news is good news! but i fear its always the other way round being a saints fans. meaning no news is bad news!! let us pray that a deal can be done before its to late!! COYR and come on Le tiss!! security word- ROD STEWART to the rescue

I'll say it before you get abuse security words are four letters then four letters lol sw coyr-tiss

Weren't Yello Swiss?

brennothornhill wrote:

rossofficial wrote: No news is good news! but i fear its always the other way round being a saints fans. meaning no news is bad news!! let us pray that a deal can be done before its to late!! COYR and come on Le tiss!! security word- ROD STEWART to the rescue

I'll say it before you get abuse security words are four letters then four letters lol sw coyr-tiss

thanks for the tip

security word

TISS-STEW

GREAT NEWS.

Ive just sent back a TERMINATOR T-800 to wipe out Rupert lowe

I wish!

rossofficial wrote:
GREAT NEWS. Ive just sent back a TERMINATOR T-800 to wipe out Rupert lowe I wish!

love it, so wish that were true... Was it lowe threatening to jump of the itchen bridge?

brennothornhill wrote:

rossofficial wrote: GREAT NEWS. Ive just sent back a TERMINATOR T-800 to wipe out Rupert lowe I wish!

love it, so wish that were true... Was it lowe threatening to jump of the itchen bridge?

Maybe without LOWE wed still be in the prem and even in the top 6 every season.

We'll never know!

secuity word JOHN-CONN

So where is the story? Pinnacle are still in exclusivity and are on track. Until we here otherwise the rest is just spin.
I'm sure Matt and Pinnacle will complete.. Have some faith and don't heed the media diatribe.

AB12345 wrote:
The Swiss Group is Ramon Vega who tried to buy Portsmouth for nothing.

The Pinnacle deal hangs by a thread, it could be Vega or bust.

Security word:
drop-kick

No it's not. It's the family Robinson, along with anyone else the Echo wants us to believe.

My petunias are doing well this year.

I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted Rogers wrote:
I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

moron bregade? optimists I am guessing?

rossofficial wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

rossofficial wrote: GREAT NEWS. Ive just sent back a TERMINATOR T-800 to wipe out Rupert lowe I wish!

love it, so wish that were true... Was it lowe threatening to jump of the itchen bridge?

Maybe without LOWE wed still be in the prem and even in the top 6 every season. We'll never know! secuity word JOHN-CONN

dont think that would have been the case, lowe was bad but we have never been that good!! We may still be in the prem or at least a promotion contender in champ every season though

brennothornhill wrote:
where is the lowe lover today I need my daily bit of bull**** to keep me going....

We need AntiMoaner on here for a laugh!

Ted Rogers wrote:
I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

Beer Monster wrote:
Weren't Yello Swiss?

I was just thinking that.

Boris Blanc for Chairman!

Ken Hutchinson wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

too true, come on then ted fill us with doom and gloom....

Wasn't going to post, but the security word I think sums up the Echo beautifully

task-lazy

PINNACLE MUST GO!!!!the swiss is the future bring them on!!!!!!!

Another fantastically insightful article that tells us nothing. This is journalism at it's best. What next for Adam? Today the Echo, tomorrow the Sun or the Star?

Security word lead-down, how about you get your head down adam and write something decent for a change?

wehatepompey wrote:
PINNACLE MUST GO!!!!the swiss is the future bring them on!!!!!!!

on what do you base this?

brennothornhill wrote:

Ken Hutchinson wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

too true, come on then ted fill us with doom and gloom....

I won't fill you with doom and gloom. Initially all I did was put some info I received into the public domain. As Ken points out no Pinnacle = Swiss Group. In fact common knowledge amongst interested parties the Swiss bidder was so interested that they originally offered to buy Pinnacle out of exclusivity arrangement agreed with the club, which Pinnacle refused, initially.
And point of fact the Swiss interest is not a consortium, rather an extremely wealthy individual (Billionaire)

banhammer wrote:
Is it Abba?

No - apparently ABBA are from Waterloo.

Ted Rogers wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

Ken Hutchinson wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

too true, come on then ted fill us with doom and gloom....

I won't fill you with doom and gloom. Initially all I did was put some info I received into the public domain. As Ken points out no Pinnacle = Swiss Group. In fact common knowledge amongst interested parties the Swiss bidder was so interested that they originally offered to buy Pinnacle out of exclusivity arrangement agreed with the club, which Pinnacle refused, initially. And point of fact the Swiss interest is not a consortium, rather an extremely wealthy individual (Billionaire)

come on ted who is this billionair?

geordie saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

Ken Hutchinson wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

too true, come on then ted fill us with doom and gloom....

I won't fill you with doom and gloom. Initially all I did was put some info I received into the public domain. As Ken points out no Pinnacle = Swiss Group. In fact common knowledge amongst interested parties the Swiss bidder was so interested that they originally offered to buy Pinnacle out of exclusivity arrangement agreed with the club, which Pinnacle refused, initially. And point of fact the Swiss interest is not a consortium, rather an extremely wealthy individual (Billionaire)

come on ted who is this billionair?

its not me, my billions are tied up in stock...

sw east-land

geordie saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

Ken Hutchinson wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

If the article is accurate, it really is of no consequence if you are proved right or proved wrong Ted. No Pinnacle = Swiss Group....

too true, come on then ted fill us with doom and gloom....

I won't fill you with doom and gloom. Initially all I did was put some info I received into the public domain. As Ken points out no Pinnacle = Swiss Group. In fact common knowledge amongst interested parties the Swiss bidder was so interested that they originally offered to buy Pinnacle out of exclusivity arrangement agreed with the club, which Pinnacle refused, initially. And point of fact the Swiss interest is not a consortium, rather an extremely wealthy individual (Billionaire)

come on ted who is this billionair?

Me

Ted Rogers wrote:
I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views.

All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here.

How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask?

Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

wehatepompey wrote:
PINNACLE MUST GO!!!!the swiss is the future bring them on!!!!!!!

oh what a fickle bunch we are....why are we wanting pinnacle out? what exactly have they done apart from taking their time and making sure everything is in place before they make any statements to the fans? As many people people have said, MLT would not be putting his name to this bid if he didnt think it was sound and in the best intrests of our club so be patient people and as for the echo.....i have nothing to say...pretty much the same as you but the difference is when there is nothing to say....i keep quiet.! what a SW....sale-hang!!!!

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer.

I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer. I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

sorry but I just dont buy that...

brennothornhill wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer. I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

sorry but I just dont buy that...

i smell fish !!!!!!!

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer. I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

Is any of this related to your work and if so what do you do?

Just looking for some hint so I know whether to take seriously or not. Im sure you yourself know that being a Saints fan can make you sceptical with all the talk over the years surrounding the club we love.

You also sound like and intelligent guy so must understand the scepticism surrounding what you are saying and why people may not believe you.

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer. I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

Is any of this related to your work and if so what do you do? Just looking for some hint so I know whether to take seriously or not. Im sure you yourself know that being a Saints fan can make you sceptical with all the talk over the years surrounding the club we love. You also sound like and intelligent guy so must understand the scepticism surrounding what you are saying and why people may not believe you.

Of course I understand the level of scepticism that would surround an issue which is highly emotive for many.
It's your choice what you choose to believe, as it is others'choice to be ignorant, rude and abusive. I am loosely connected to current events in a commercial capacity but have extensive knowledge of the parties involved in both a commercial and social environment. I am not the only person who has this information; I, as a Saints fan for over thirty five years chose to impart some of my knowledge to supporters that continually express great interest but are met with a wall of silence.

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

eisman84 wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: I'd hate to be proved right!(Especially following the abusive comments that followed by the moron brigade)

Ted - I do hope that you are not saying I am part of the "moron brigade" as you so politely put it. I personally thought we were having a discussion the other day about it and airing our own views. All I asked for was some evidence of what you were saying to have some belief due to the rumour mill that generally gets going on here. How, may I ask, do you know so much about all of the bids involved and no-one else seems to know anything is all I ask? Hope security word has no bearing on anything that may happen "lose-poor"

Not a reference to you as an individual; you would only need to review the thread to see to whom I refer. I can't say more than I have for valid personal reasons. However, what I would say is that a talented journalist would be able to report at least some of the facts to date, if they were creative enough to approach the 'correct' individuals.

Is any of this related to your work and if so what do you do? Just looking for some hint so I know whether to take seriously or not. Im sure you yourself know that being a Saints fan can make you sceptical with all the talk over the years surrounding the club we love. You also sound like and intelligent guy so must understand the scepticism surrounding what you are saying and why people may not believe you.

Of course I understand the level of scepticism that would surround an issue which is highly emotive for many. It's your choice what you choose to believe, as it is others'choice to be ignorant, rude and abusive. I am loosely connected to current events in a commercial capacity but have extensive knowledge of the parties involved in both a commercial and social environment. I am not the only person who has this information; I, as a Saints fan for over thirty five years chose to impart some of my knowledge to supporters that continually express great interest but are met with a wall of silence.

nice reply, please forgive me for still not believing it

Whether or not Ted is to be believed or not is immaterial.I would hope that the majority of us have the maturity to absorb differing views and information without the inclination to abuse and deride safe in the knowledge that at some point all of the relevant facts will "come out in the wash".

geordie saint wrote:
I cant understand why matt dosent go on local tv or radio and give fans an update, why such a secrete, supposed to have a multi million pound backer,what can be the problem?

totally agree.
whats the problem with just letting everyone know whats going on.
if it was chelsea man u or liverppol we would know the ins and outs of the deal about a year before it was done

I love the rest of the St Mary’s massive. Bashfan – you’re a bit special – Pinnacle (who ever he/she/they are!) are thinking about making an offer for SLH Plc, although it isn’t certain that they have the cash to afford it & the Swiss consortium didn’t put forward the £500k so whilst they may be interested, they weren’t that interested… As regards Setanta, did you forget about ITV Digital? Or did I miss the numerous reports about footballers taking pay cuts?...

Geordie Saint & wehatepompy, you really can’t understand why Matt doesn’t go on local TV or radio and give fans an update? Let me explain in little words:
Matt Le Tissier is (was) a footballer, and is now a pundit for Sky TV. He is not a business man, nor is he the Pinnacle group. He is a paid spokesman for Pinnacle. He says what he is paid to say – in the same way that he kicked the ball in the direction he was paid to kick it and provides commentary on the games he is paid to provide commentary on.
Why on earth would you think he knows any more about the deal than any other person on the street? He may be doing it purely for the cash or he may think he is doing it for Saints (based only on what he has been told by his mystery employer) either way he is not Pinnacle so he doesn’t know.
Does anybody else think that it is peculiar that somebody offering ‘multiple millions’ to refinance the club and strengthen the team needs to go out and pay a former player to sweeten up the fans? Do they thing we don’t want their cash? Or do they think we may spot something dodgy about their refusal to be named or stump up the cash and the only way to keep us quiet would be to get ‘Le-God’ to tell us ‘it’s all okay, don’t worry about a thing, it’ll be fine’!...

Banhammer – Pinnacle Out? They’re not even it yet you spanner, no wonder Saints went through 16 managers in 13 years, you represent the worst of the boo boys!

Rossofficial, brenothornhill et all, I am no Lowe lover – but it increasingly seems to me that he is the only reason the club is still here! He was the person who insisted that players had clauses in their contracts which dropped their wages if the club was relegated, allowing us to survive for so long the Championship. This was dropped by Wilde etc so many of the current players don’t have that clause – leading to greater financial difficulties than we would otherwise have had at the moment. Lowe was the one who invested in the fantastic infrastructure we currently have, the only reason I can see anybody would look to seriously invest in the club! Lowe was the one who invested in the academy, we’d have gone bust years ago if we weren’t able to develop talent to sell, and we’d have fared worse last season if it weren’t for the youth system. There is little chance we would have stayed in the Prem for ever.
How were Saints supposed to compete with 60k+ capacity stadia from the Dell? Not going to happen. Hard enough with the 32,000 we wouldn’t have had without Lowe. If he had spend £££M on players to keep us in the Prem there is no guarantee we would have survived, just look at Leeds!

Face the facts. When Lowe took over the club were just about hanging on to the Prem. In the 6 years prior to him taking over Saints had had 4 managers, an average of 1 every season and a half. In the 9 years Lowe was chairman we had 8 managers (two we couldn’t avoid going) just over 1 every season and a half. He did not make Saints dis-loyal to managers, we already were.
He increased the turnover of the club from 15.9M in ‘99 to 50M by ’04 – and kept the club in profit!

The ave

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The average number of games we won (even including relegation) increased in the league and the FA Cup. In the 8 years prior to him taking over we finished below 14th 6 times and were knocked out of the FA Cup in the 3rd round 4 times, in the 9 years he was here we finished below 14th 3 times and were knocked out of the FA Cup in the 3rd round 4 times, we had our bets cup run since ’76 and our highest league finish since the 89-90 season.

What is everybody’s problem? How short are our memories? Lowe didn’t destroy Saints – reckless spending and poor contracts (dropping the pay cut on relegation clause) by Wilde & Co, only there because of the ‘fans’ and low attendances destroyed Saints.

stoney79 wrote:
I love the rest of the St Mary’s massive. Bashfan – you’re a bit special – Pinnacle (who ever he/she/they are!) are thinking about making an offer for SLH Plc, although it isn’t certain that they have the cash to afford it & the Swiss consortium didn’t put forward the £500k so whilst they may be interested, they weren’t that interested… As regards Setanta, did you forget about ITV Digital? Or did I miss the numerous reports about footballers taking pay cuts?... Geordie Saint & wehatepompy, you really can’t understand why Matt doesn’t go on local TV or radio and give fans an update? Let me explain in little words: Matt Le Tissier is (was) a footballer, and is now a pundit for Sky TV. He is not a business man, nor is he the Pinnacle group. He is a paid spokesman for Pinnacle. He says what he is paid to say – in the same way that he kicked the ball in the direction he was paid to kick it and provides commentary on the games he is paid to provide commentary on. Why on earth would you think he knows any more about the deal than any other person on the street? He may be doing it purely for the cash or he may think he is doing it for Saints (based only on what he has been told by his mystery employer) either way he is not Pinnacle so he doesn’t know. Does anybody else think that it is peculiar that somebody offering ‘multiple millions’ to refinance the club and strengthen the team needs to go out and pay a former player to sweeten up the fans? Do they thing we don’t want their cash? Or do they think we may spot something dodgy about their refusal to be named or stump up the cash and the only way to keep us quiet would be to get ‘Le-God’ to tell us ‘it’s all okay, don’t worry about a thing, it’ll be fine’!... Banhammer – Pinnacle Out? They’re not even it yet you spanner, no wonder Saints went through 16 managers in 13 years, you represent the worst of the boo boys! Rossofficial, brenothornhill et all, I am no Lowe lover – but it increasingly seems to me that he is the only reason the club is still here! He was the person who insisted that players had clauses in their contracts which dropped their wages if the club was relegated, allowing us to survive for so long the Championship. This was dropped by Wilde etc so many of the current players don’t have that clause – leading to greater financial difficulties than we would otherwise have had at the moment. Lowe was the one who invested in the fantastic infrastructure we currently have, the only reason I can see anybody would look to seriously invest in the club! Lowe was the one who invested in the academy, we’d have gone bust years ago if we weren’t able to develop talent to sell, and we’d have fared worse last season if it weren’t for the youth system. There is little chance we would have stayed in the Prem for ever. How were Saints supposed to compete with 60k+ capacity stadia from the Dell? Not going to happen. Hard enough with the 32,000 we wouldn’t have had without Lowe. If he had spend £££M on players to keep us in the Prem there is no guarantee we would have survived, just look at Leeds! Face the facts. When Lowe took over the club were just about hanging on to the Prem. In the 6 years prior to him taking over Saints had had 4 managers, an average of 1 every season and a half. In the 9 years Lowe was chairman we had 8 managers (two we couldn’t avoid going) just over 1 every season and a half. He did not make Saints dis-loyal to managers, we already were. He increased the turnover of the club from 15.9M in ‘99 to 50M by ’04 – and kept the club in profit! The ave

I like the way you have put this across and do not mean anything I say following to be come across personal so please do not take it that way. Lowe split the fan base which was the first critical thing he did. this led to problems off the field that went onto the field in terms of noise and bums on seats. The arguement about moving from the dell is not something I would put pro lowe. That was always going to happen and I really cant put all the credit on lowe, it was work in progress for many years, Lowe just happened to be in charge when it finally got the go ahead. He did not pay for this stadium outright or with a great loan, we have had that stadium for a number of years and i remember it costing something in the tune of £30 million, now NU say we owe them £27million for the stadium, where did all the money go from those high finishes, cup runs, ticket sales and sponsorship? not on players or the stadium. I agree with the contracts if there is one thing I would begrudgingly give lowe credit for is the clauses in the contracts that he put in. well done lowe you saved us that. As for Wilde etc, I do not think they did anything right either, they aer just as bad because they promised the world and delivered fratton park. The increased turn over is down to inflation within football, every club had a huge increase in turnover and with our bigger stadium that isnt rocket science. Management decisions were NOT all bad, strachan and hoddle were good decisions but with WGS he did not back him enough. You can not give the credit of our high finishes to lowe they were down to hoddle and strachan etc so I congratulate the managers for those moments. As for Stuart Grey and Wigley come on surely you even must admit that Lowe made a huuuuge mistake with both of them, and did not learn from either. You keep saying Lowe 'invested' in things like our infrastructure. Lowe did not give any of his personal wealth to the cause, he spent Saints money on this, I could authorise that in his position. We may have the best infrastructure. That does not mean as much to investers as league position, look at west ham, p****y etc. the youth is down to the employees we had previous to lowe and have had for a long long time, before lowe we had shearer, wallace's, le tiss, kenna, dodd, banali the list goes on of players that come through our youth ranks. This was down to being the biggest club in the south coast therefore parents wanted kids to go to us. Again this is only my feelings and is not maybe a 100% correct statement as to what happened.

brennothornhill, I see were you are coming from. I know it wasn't Lowe's cash and said previously I am no Lowe lover, but as chairman he had final say over appointing Strachen & Hoddle, he had final say over spending the revenues on the youth & infrastructure and he had the job of keeping the club in the black (or at least making sure we could service our debts). I don't think it’s fair to say none of this was down to Lowe, he was the decision maker. I know the move was 'on' for years, but so was Pompys, Evertons (more recently Liverpools). It’s up to the chairman to make these things happen and he is one of very few to do it. Okay a complete balls up with Grey & Wigley but all football chairmen make mistakes, can't take it away he was the decision maker when we invested so much in Marchwood (okay Sir Clive was taking a bit of a gamble, but at the same time there was record investment at Staplewood and that’s why its one of the best training facilities in the country. Okay its been good for a long time, but it’s still going strong, Theo Walcott; Wayne Bridge; Gareth Bale and Chris Baird all recent graduates – its not just down to being the big club in the south, Shearer was from Newcastle much bigger clubs up there, it’s down to continual investment in training and facilities – started before Lowe and continued by him

lol, SW fair-part
;-p

brennothornhill wrote:

stoney79 wrote:
I love the rest of the St Mary’s massive. Bashfan – you’re a bit special – Pinnacle (who ever he/she/they are!) are thinking about making an offer for SLH Plc, although it isn’t certain that they have the cash to afford it & the Swiss consortium didn’t put forward the £500k so whilst they may be interested, they weren’t that interested… As regards Setanta, did you forget about ITV Digital? Or did I miss the numerous reports about footballers taking pay cuts?... Geordie Saint & wehatepompy, you really can’t understand why Matt doesn’t go on local TV or radio and give fans an update? Let me explain in little words: Matt Le Tissier is (was) a footballer, and is now a pundit for Sky TV. He is not a business man, nor is he the Pinnacle group. He is a paid spokesman for Pinnacle. He says what he is paid to say – in the same way that he kicked the ball in the direction he was paid to kick it and provides commentary on the games he is paid to provide commentary on. Why on earth would you think he knows any more about the deal than any other person on the street? He may be doing it purely for the cash or he may think he is doing it for Saints (based only on what he has been told by his mystery employer) either way he is not Pinnacle so he doesn’t know. Does anybody else think that it is peculiar that somebody offering ‘multiple millions’ to refinance the club and strengthen the team needs to go out and pay a former player to sweeten up the fans? Do they thing we don’t want their cash? Or do they think we may spot something dodgy about their refusal to be named or stump up the cash and the only way to keep us quiet would be to get ‘Le-God’ to tell us ‘it’s all okay, don’t worry about a thing, it’ll be fine’!... Banhammer – Pinnacle Out? They’re not even it yet you spanner, no wonder Saints went through 16 managers in 13 years, you represent the worst of the boo boys! Rossofficial, brenothornhill et all, I am no Lowe lover – but it increasingly seems to me that he is the only reason the club is still here! He was the person who insisted that players had clauses in their contracts which dropped their wages if the club was relegated, allowing us to survive for so long the Championship. This was dropped by Wilde etc so many of the current players don’t have that clause – leading to greater financial difficulties than we would otherwise have had at the moment. Lowe was the one who invested in the fantastic infrastructure we currently have, the only reason I can see anybody would look to seriously invest in the club! Lowe was the one who invested in the academy, we’d have gone bust years ago if we weren’t able to develop talent to sell, and we’d have fared worse last season if it weren’t for the youth system. There is little chance we would have stayed in the Prem for ever. How were Saints supposed to compete with 60k+ capacity stadia from the Dell? Not going to happen. Hard enough with the 32,000 we wouldn’t have had without Lowe. If he had spend £££M on players to keep us in the Prem there is no guarantee we would have survived, just look at Leeds! Face the facts. When Lowe took over the club were just about hanging on to the Prem. In the 6 years prior to him taking over Saints had had 4 managers, an average of 1 every season and a half. In the 9 years Lowe was chairman we had 8 managers (two we couldn’t avoid going) just over 1 every season and a half. He did not make Saints dis-loyal to managers, we already were. He increased the turnover of the club from 15.9M in ‘99 to 50M by ’04 – and kept the club in profit! The ave

I like the way you have put this across and do not mean anything I say following to be come across personal so please do not take it that way. Lowe split the fan base which was the first critical thing he did. this led to problems off the field that went onto the field in terms of noise and bums on seats. The arguement about moving from the dell is not something I would put pro lowe. That was always going to happen and I really cant put all the credit on lowe, it was work in progress for many years, Lowe just happened to be in charge when it finally got the go ahead. He did not pay for this stadium outright or with a great loan, we have had that stadium for a number of years and i remember it costing something in the tune of £30 million, now NU say we owe them £27million for the stadium, where did all the money go from those high finishes, cup runs, ticket sales and sponsorship? not on players or the stadium. I agree with the contracts if there is one thing I would begrudgingly give lowe credit for is the clauses in the contracts that he put in. well done lowe you saved us that. As for Wilde etc, I do not think they did anything right either, they aer just as bad because they promised the world and delivered fratton park. The increased turn over is down to inflation within football, every club had a huge increase in turnover and with our bigger stadium that isnt rocket science. Management decisions were NOT all bad, strachan and hoddle were good decisions but with WGS he did not back him enough. You can not give the credit of our high finishes to lowe they were down to hoddle and strachan etc so I congratulate the managers for those moments. As for Stuart Grey and Wigley come on surely you even must admit that Lowe made a huuuuge mistake with both of them, and did not learn from either. You keep saying Lowe 'invested' in things like our infrastructure. Lowe did not give any of his personal wealth to the cause, he spent Saints money on this, I could authorise that in his position. We may have the best infrastructure. That does not mean as much to investers as league position, look at west ham, p****y etc. the youth is down to the employees we had previous to lowe and have had for a long long time, before lowe we had shearer, wallace's, le tiss, kenna, dodd, banali the list goes on of players that come through our youth ranks. This was down to being the biggest club in the south coast therefore parents wanted kids to go to us. Again this is only my feelings and is not maybe a 100% correct statement as to what happened.

Nothing to add to two very well composed post,s. Interesting points of view,sort of sums up the split in the fan base,looking forward to the time when all this is put to one side and the talk is about football again.

ok lets talk football, long ball or pretty football next season? lol

sw fuel-foot

well said normsted

The firs thing any owner will do is to put the Season Tickets on sale
No Season Tickets
No Deal
Don't believe anything till these tickets go on sale

Best wishes to ALL supporters

Checked my supply of Viagra to see if Pfizer are a Swiss company, sadly they are not. If it had been them that were successful in the takeover SFC could claim to have the hardest supporters in the UK.

miltonarchers wrote:
Checked my supply of Viagra to see if Pfizer are a Swiss company, sadly they are not. If it had been them that were successful in the takeover SFC could claim to have the hardest supporters in the UK.

lol, now that would be quality, all we would have to do is resing viafara and it would be complete!!

stoney79 wrote:
I love the rest of the St Mary’s massive. Bashfan – you’re a bit special – Pinnacle (who ever he/she/they are!) are thinking about making an offer for SLH Plc, although it isn’t certain that they have the cash to afford it & the Swiss consortium didn’t put forward the £500k so whilst they may be interested, they weren’t that interested… As regards Setanta, did you forget about ITV Digital? Or did I miss the numerous reports about footballers taking pay cuts?... Geordie Saint & wehatepompy, you really can’t understand why Matt doesn’t go on local TV or radio and give fans an update? Let me explain in little words: Matt Le Tissier is (was) a footballer, and is now a pundit for Sky TV. He is not a business man, nor is he the Pinnacle group. He is a paid spokesman for Pinnacle. He says what he is paid to say – in the same way that he kicked the ball in the direction he was paid to kick it and provides commentary on the games he is paid to provide commentary on. Why on earth would you think he knows any more about the deal than any other person on the street? He may be doing it purely for the cash or he may think he is doing it for Saints (based only on what he has been told by his mystery employer) either way he is not Pinnacle so he doesn’t know. Does anybody else think that it is peculiar that somebody offering ‘multiple millions’ to refinance the club and strengthen the team needs to go out and pay a former player to sweeten up the fans? Do they thing we don’t want their cash? Or do they think we may spot something dodgy about their refusal to be named or stump up the cash and the only way to keep us quiet would be to get ‘Le-God’ to tell us ‘it’s all okay, don’t worry about a thing, it’ll be fine’!... Banhammer – Pinnacle Out? They’re not even it yet you spanner, no wonder Saints went through 16 managers in 13 years, you represent the worst of the boo boys! Rossofficial, brenothornhill et all, I am no Lowe lover – but it increasingly seems to me that he is the only reason the club is still here! He was the person who insisted that players had clauses in their contracts which dropped their wages if the club was relegated, allowing us to survive for so long the Championship. This was dropped by Wilde etc so many of the current players don’t have that clause – leading to greater financial difficulties than we would otherwise have had at the moment. Lowe was the one who invested in the fantastic infrastructure we currently have, the only reason I can see anybody would look to seriously invest in the club! Lowe was the one who invested in the academy, we’d have gone bust years ago if we weren’t able to develop talent to sell, and we’d have fared worse last season if it weren’t for the youth system. There is little chance we would have stayed in the Prem for ever. How were Saints supposed to compete with 60k+ capacity stadia from the Dell? Not going to happen. Hard enough with the 32,000 we wouldn’t have had without Lowe. If he had spend £££M on players to keep us in the Prem there is no guarantee we would have survived, just look at Leeds! Face the facts. When Lowe took over the club were just about hanging on to the Prem. In the 6 years prior to him taking over Saints had had 4 managers, an average of 1 every season and a half. In the 9 years Lowe was chairman we had 8 managers (two we couldn’t avoid going) just over 1 every season and a half. He did not make Saints dis-loyal to managers, we already were. He increased the turnover of the club from 15.9M in ‘99 to 50M by ’04 – and kept the club in profit! The ave

Pretty good analysis this, but wasted on this site.
Not many people who log onto it have enough concentration to read so many words in one sitting.
Further, the main reason the sheep are convinced Rupert is a bad'un is because the Echo spent the three seasons following the 2003 Cup Final, day in, day out, without pause, publishing negative publicity about him.
Conversely, Michael Wilde was greated as a saviour. It took less than six months to prove otherwise, and the Echo still can't admit it was conned.
Do I hear bleatings of discent?

stoney79 wrote:
brennothornhill, I see were you are coming from. I know it wasn't Lowe's cash and said previously I am no Lowe lover, but as chairman he had final say over appointing Strachen & Hoddle, he had final say over spending the revenues on the youth & infrastructure and he had the job of keeping the club in the black (or at least making sure we could service our debts). I don't think it’s fair to say none of this was down to Lowe, he was the decision maker. I know the move was 'on' for years, but so was Pompys, Evertons (more recently Liverpools). It’s up to the chairman to make these things happen and he is one of very few to do it. Okay a complete balls up with Grey & Wigley but all football chairmen make mistakes, can't take it away he was the decision maker when we invested so much in Marchwood (okay Sir Clive was taking a bit of a gamble, but at the same time there was record investment at Staplewood and that’s why its one of the best training facilities in the country. Okay its been good for a long time, but it’s still going strong, Theo Walcott; Wayne Bridge; Gareth Bale and Chris Baird all recent graduates – its not just down to being the big club in the south, Shearer was from Newcastle much bigger clubs up there, it’s down to continual investment in training and facilities – started before Lowe and continued by him lol, SW fair-part ;-p

we will agree to disagree on most of these topics, its human nature I suppose that everyone see's things differently, but hey we both have the same hopes and dreams for saints so its all good. At least it has been a good if not very interesting debate with no childish name calling or insults thrown, we should be in parliament!!! COYR

Captain Swing wrote:

stoney79 wrote: I love the rest of the St Mary’s massive. Bashfan – you’re a bit special – Pinnacle (who ever he/she/they are!) are thinking about making an offer for SLH Plc, although it isn’t certain that they have the cash to afford it & the Swiss consortium didn’t put forward the £500k so whilst they may be interested, they weren’t that interested… As regards Setanta, did you forget about ITV Digital? Or did I miss the numerous reports about footballers taking pay cuts?... Geordie Saint & wehatepompy, you really can’t understand why Matt doesn’t go on local TV or radio and give fans an update? Let me explain in little words: Matt Le Tissier is (was) a footballer, and is now a pundit for Sky TV. He is not a business man, nor is he the Pinnacle group. He is a paid spokesman for Pinnacle. He says what he is paid to say – in the same way that he kicked the ball in the direction he was paid to kick it and provides commentary on the games he is paid to provide commentary on. Why on earth would you think he knows any more about the deal than any other person on the street? He may be doing it purely for the cash or he may think he is doing it for Saints (based only on what he has been told by his mystery employer) either way he is not Pinnacle so he doesn’t know. Does anybody else think that it is peculiar that somebody offering ‘multiple millions’ to refinance the club and strengthen the team needs to go out and pay a former player to sweeten up the fans? Do they thing we don’t want their cash? Or do they think we may spot something dodgy about their refusal to be named or stump up the cash and the only way to keep us quiet would be to get ‘Le-God’ to tell us ‘it’s all okay, don’t worry about a thing, it’ll be fine’!... Banhammer – Pinnacle Out? They’re not even it yet you spanner, no wonder Saints went through 16 managers in 13 years, you represent the worst of the boo boys! Rossofficial, brenothornhill et all, I am no Lowe lover – but it increasingly seems to me that he is the only reason the club is still here! He was the person who insisted that players had clauses in their contracts which dropped their wages if the club was relegated, allowing us to survive for so long the Championship. This was dropped by Wilde etc so many of the current players don’t have that clause – leading to greater financial difficulties than we would otherwise have had at the moment. Lowe was the one who invested in the fantastic infrastructure we currently have, the only reason I can see anybody would look to seriously invest in the club! Lowe was the one who invested in the academy, we’d have gone bust years ago if we weren’t able to develop talent to sell, and we’d have fared worse last season if it weren’t for the youth system. There is little chance we would have stayed in the Prem for ever. How were Saints supposed to compete with 60k+ capacity stadia from the Dell? Not going to happen. Hard enough with the 32,000 we wouldn’t have had without Lowe. If he had spend £££M on players to keep us in the Prem there is no guarantee we would have survived, just look at Leeds! Face the facts. When Lowe took over the club were just about hanging on to the Prem. In the 6 years prior to him taking over Saints had had 4 managers, an average of 1 every season and a half. In the 9 years Lowe was chairman we had 8 managers (two we couldn’t avoid going) just over 1 every season and a half. He did not make Saints dis-loyal to managers, we already were. He increased the turnover of the club from 15.9M in ‘99 to 50M by ’04 – and kept the club in profit! The ave

Pretty good analysis this, but wasted on this site. Not many people who log onto it have enough concentration to read so many words in one sitting. Further, the main reason the sheep are convinced Rupert is a bad'un is because the Echo spent the three seasons following the 2003 Cup Final, day in, day out, without pause, publishing negative publicity about him. Conversely, Michael Wilde was greated as a saviour. It took less than six months to prove otherwise, and the Echo still can't admit it was conned. Do I hear bleatings of discent?

Any need to start insulting people 'enough concentration in one sitting' 'sheep' that is not the case at all, people have different views and just because they are not the same as yours please refrain from being petulant. Michael Wilde did con us, please forgive us for thinking a man who promised us so so so much never delivered, now he is not a saviour around these parts anymore. Lowe is not a bad 'un just because the echo gave him so much publicity, Lowe brought most of that on himself due to decisions that he made. Its people like you that really wind me up, good day

Well, Mr Homegrown (if that's your real name - I suspect not), what do you have to say for yourself? :-)

I want to buy the club and would but those Euro Lottery people don't pick my numbers and I give them £3.00 each week!

you know he wont be back until something happens.... lol

sharpee wrote:
I want to buy the club and would but those Euro Lottery people don't pick my numbers and I give them £3.00 each week!

Well try giving them the correct numbers - duuh :-D

i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

tauntonsaint wrote:

sharpee wrote: I want to buy the club and would but those Euro Lottery people don't pick my numbers and I give them £3.00 each week!

Well try giving them the correct numbers - duuh :-D

now someone tells me!!!

brennothornhill wrote:

tauntonsaint wrote:

sharpee wrote: I want to buy the club and would but those Euro Lottery people don't pick my numbers and I give them £3.00 each week!

Well try giving them the correct numbers - duuh :-D

now someone tells me!!!

Works for me - I'm bored winning it every week - mattress is touching the ceiling :-D

a good post by stoney79 but i think he is wrong whan he states Matt is not a buisness man,to my knowledge he has his own succesful ventures and also talks with a very sensible head, sorry stoney but you wont change my mind about a money grabbing Lowe. Would love to know where the money from the recent big transferes has gone, not to norwich union we all know that, cant blame fans for staying away sick of lining his pockets, Istill think Matts pinnicle will do the biz

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote:
i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

How many you got?

I hope at least 11 for this season

geordie saint wrote:
I hope at least 11 for this season

May need to get some in on loan. Is the gnome-loan window open yet?

Will our club and fans ever be immune from the frustation of the 'cons' of people not delivering? Probably not.
Football is about money now for a handful of the hundred plus clubs in England. Saints fans will clamour to be one of those clubs spending other people's money and looking out for new chairmen almost as quickly as chairmen look for managers! Perhaps until this changes we will have to be ready for being conned.

It is my interpretation that last summer Lowe feared the club would go under and he feared for the value of his shares. Call that selfish if you want but if it worked for us too, then so be it. If someone had bought them off him I doubt he would have come back. He then tried to keep us going on the finances we can generate. Failed because of various reasons.
When we went into administration I was concerned that coming out would be lengthy and problematic. The 08/09 season would appear to the money people we now rely on to sort this mess out that running a club without wasting your own money on it would be next to impossible. How would the creditors and potential buyers agree? We had backed ourselves into a corner. Removing Lowe in the normal business way (as was done before) was the easier and cheaper way. Buy up shares, vote him out. No need to get administrators involved, no need to hand the higher ground to creditors.

It would be seem that we are blooming lucky if buyers are willing to satisfy the creditors and clear debts to gain ownership.

Whilst we would be foolish to turn down money to burn on players, I think a period of humility and some patient development of the club during financial self sufficiency might have done us all good. I am not an expert on the history of the club but I would imagine it was not all about millionaire benefactors. It was probably more a proud living within means type of club.

Stafford Saint wrote:
Will our club and fans ever be immune from the frustation of the 'cons' of people not delivering? Probably not. Football is about money now for a handful of the hundred plus clubs in England. Saints fans will clamour to be one of those clubs spending other people's money and looking out for new chairmen almost as quickly as chairmen look for managers! Perhaps until this changes we will have to be ready for being conned. It is my interpretation that last summer Lowe feared the club would go under and he feared for the value of his shares. Call that selfish if you want but if it worked for us too, then so be it. If someone had bought them off him I doubt he would have come back. He then tried to keep us going on the finances we can generate. Failed because of various reasons. When we went into administration I was concerned that coming out would be lengthy and problematic. The 08/09 season would appear to the money people we now rely on to sort this mess out that running a club without wasting your own money on it would be next to impossible. How would the creditors and potential buyers agree? We had backed ourselves into a corner. Removing Lowe in the normal business way (as was done before) was the easier and cheaper way. Buy up shares, vote him out. No need to get administrators involved, no need to hand the higher ground to creditors. It would be seem that we are blooming lucky if buyers are willing to satisfy the creditors and clear debts to gain ownership. Whilst we would be foolish to turn down money to burn on players, I think a period of humility and some patient development of the club during financial self sufficiency might have done us all good. I am not an expert on the history of the club but I would imagine it was not all about millionaire benefactors. It was probably more a proud living within means type of club.

that is probably the most sensible post i have seen you write

Could be the answere, remote controled gnomes

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote: i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

How many you got?

eleven

I see all the experts with inside knowledge were saying there would be an announcement today- wrong again- perhaps Pinnacle have noticed Newcastle is going cheap- 50,000 every game and more shirt sales than most can dream about.
Maybe tomorrow?

Pedant wrote:
I see all the experts with inside knowledge were saying there would be an announcement today- wrong again- perhaps Pinnacle have noticed Newcastle is going cheap- 50,000 every game and more shirt sales than most can dream about. Maybe tomorrow?

my fathers mate uncles friends wifes boss knows a bloke that is friends with the vicar that lives next door to this bloke who is mates with someone in vloved with Pinnacle or at least I think its the pinnacle, anyway he said it should be done soon

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote:

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote: i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

How many you got?

eleven

What if one gets injured?

I must admit to finding the threads fun to get up to in NZ.

If there was a fact in this release I can't for the life of me see it. Is it just me or is this piece just complete bs? If it were true there would be an interview with the so called Swiss group and a chase for a follow up where a report goes and does some work and speaks to someone and reports it.

The Echo seems to be letting its young staff practise here for when they have a story.

They print blurb like throwing a few stale crumbs to us poor pigeons to scrap over hahaha

But it's fun over that first coffee in the NZ morning.

brennothornhill wrote:

Pedant wrote: I see all the experts with inside knowledge were saying there would be an announcement today- wrong again- perhaps Pinnacle have noticed Newcastle is going cheap- 50,000 every game and more shirt sales than most can dream about. Maybe tomorrow?

my fathers mate uncles friends wifes boss knows a bloke that is friends with the vicar that lives next door to this bloke who is mates with someone in vloved with Pinnacle or at least I think its the pinnacle, anyway he said it should be done soon

Yeah, I know that vicar, don't believe a word he says ;-)

Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:
I must admit to finding the threads fun to get up to in NZ. If there was a fact in this release I can't for the life of me see it. Is it just me or is this piece just complete bs? If it were true there would be an interview with the so called Swiss group and a chase for a follow up where a report goes and does some work and speaks to someone and reports it. The Echo seems to be letting its young staff practise here for when they have a story. They print blurb like throwing a few stale crumbs to us poor pigeons to scrap over hahaha But it's fun over that first coffee in the NZ morning.

As you are ahead of us on the clock, can you tell us if Pinnacle have completed the deal yet? ;-D

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote:

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote: i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

How many you got?

eleven

What if one gets injured?

i have got 2 subs but ones got a wheelbarrow and the others got a fishing rod

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote:

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote:

tauntonsaint wrote:

stormus troupias the 2nd wrote: i'm going to paint my garden gnomes now red and white of course

How many you got?

eleven

What if one gets injured?

i have got 2 subs but ones got a wheelbarrow and the others got a fishing rod

Tell the boy to lose the wheelbarrow (small hammer will do it) - it'll only slow him down
- what is the boy thinking?

Who's the Goalkeeper -

Anti Gnomii?

Costa Baz wrote:

Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:
I must admit to finding the threads fun to get up to in NZ. If there was a fact in this release I can't for the life of me see it. Is it just me or is this piece just complete bs? If it were true there would be an interview with the so called Swiss group and a chase for a follow up where a report goes and does some work and speaks to someone and reports it. The Echo seems to be letting its young staff practise here for when they have a story. They print blurb like throwing a few stale crumbs to us poor pigeons to scrap over hahaha But it's fun over that first coffee in the NZ morning.

As you are ahead of us on the clock, can you tell us if Pinnacle have completed the deal yet? ;-D

Lol... I wish!!!
at least I get into the euro press websites when their stories come out at 4am or so.

I'm sure Matt Le Tissier would be the first to tell the fans (local daytime)if he were pulling out or beaten out in any way.

Until we actually hear from Matt LT that he is out have faith that he is trying to complete the deal with his backers as originally stated and will put The Club First in all his dealings.

He is the best person to have a hand on the tiller.

Good on You Matt and Pinnacle..

Up The Saints..
Southampton United

According to my spies, Pinnacle are VERY close to buying saints. expect an announcement really soon, maybe even as early as tomorrow.

get ur season ticket money ready guys, it's onwards and upwards from here!

I doubt the swiss will 'Roll' this deal, but it may 'Toblerone', and on. At least the brown stuff will be Chocolate, but I expect the Swiss will 'Watch' how they go, and go 'Gnome' to Zurich, and say 'No Francs'

before we all get over excited, please can everyone remember that the annual accounts for Southampton Football Club Ltd, are now seriously overdue at Companies House, and so it begs the question if the have been lodges with HMRC, so it's no wonder the FA are looking into it