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7:50am Monday 23rd November 2009
Alan Pardew felt his side needed to sacrifice a bit of their “entertainment factor” to grab three points against Norwich.
The Saints boss had mixed emotions after the 2-2 draw – disappointment his side ended up with just a point despite leading twice, but enthralled by the fantastic game of football he had seen.
His professional head knew that once David Connolly had given Saints a 2-1 lead his side should have shut up shop.
But they paid the price for continuing to chase goals.
He said: “We were quite happy with the way it was going first half.
“We sacrificed a little bit of possession to catch them on the break.
“Second half they came out and caused us a lot of problems because their reaction to being a goal behind was first class.
“It forced us into a change but it was one we were comfortable with because Adam Lallana is as good as (Wes) Hoolahan in that position.
“He came up with some clever play to give Connolly the chance and it was a brilliant goal from him.
“We should have then made the game ugly and shut up shop.
“But we like the entertainment factor and gave them a chance to get back in it, because it was too open for me. I wasn’t looking for any entertainment after David Connolly’s goal, I can assure you.
“I would have happily locked up shop.
“We tried to but fair play to Norwich because they’ve got good players, they move the ball, they’re on the front foot, they’ve got their tails up at the moment and they got an equaliser which I personally think they deserved.
“We should have won the game because we got that second great goal, but fair play to them.
“I said to the players ‘you did Connolly a disservice’ because that goal should have been a winning goal and we should have locked it all up.”
He added: “We’re trying to get a team here that understands how to win games, but you can’t fault the quality of the game.
“It was a game that would have graced a higher division.
“Norwich were as good as us, there were chances galore.
“Defensively we were a lot better and it is a game we should have won because their two goals were disappointing on our part and our two were fantastic.”
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Le Tissier's Nose, Southampton says...
8:48am Mon 23 Nov 09
Mistress Ploppy, says...
9:17am Mon 23 Nov 09
Alicesdad, Chandler's Ford says...
9:22am Mon 23 Nov 09
Norfolk Saint, Norwich says...
9:27am Mon 23 Nov 09
solent_saint_matt, Southampton says...
9:48am Mon 23 Nov 09
Tirau Dan, Tirau (NZL) says...
10:21am Mon 23 Nov 09
Norfolk Saint wrote:Pards has such a great attitude. He wants good flare attacking football but common sense too. He demands hard work and total effort. The man just doesn't accept second. As a far off fan following the rebuild the best thing has been the way he openly says.. good but bldy well not good enough. Clean sheets and clean strikes is what we need and Pards won't settled for less.. Enjoy the game and football well played but be prepared to demand better... Pards will. This draw was fine but Orient wasn't and Brighton was a disaster.. redemption has to start with another fresh run of good victories.. Glory regained as push up out of the rele zone, take Leeds, reinforce in the window and charge forward in the new year with Pards cracking the whip. Laughing all the way as our neighbours change names from skate to flounder.
I listened to the match on radio norfolk , obviously it was norwich biased , however the commentary team were saying in the first half that norwich were facing quality they had not witnessed previously so far this season ; second half appeared more even and as they said extremely entertaining ; I do agree with Mr AP's comments we must learn to finish the game off . We cannot afford to continue to drop points and we should start setting some milestone targets with the minimum objective of a playoff postion , it can be achieved we just need to be ruthlessly focused . I am waitng for the cup match return with norwich in december and then the away game next year at carrow road which i intend visiting - norfolk saint
Bigrich1980, ERIMI says...
10:26am Mon 23 Nov 09
Le Tissier's Nose, Southampton says...
10:35am Mon 23 Nov 09
Bigrich1980 wrote:He's been banging them in all season and (having seen some of them on tele!) lots have been belters!
That Pitman sounds quite a good player, does anyone know if he is any good, seems to have a good goal scoring record in the last 2 seasons and is still only 21.
solent_saint_matt, Southampton says...
10:44am Mon 23 Nov 09
Harleysaint, Marlow says...
10:48am Mon 23 Nov 09
Tirau Dan wrote:Morning Dan.
Norfolk Saint wrote: I listened to the match on radio norfolk , obviously it was norwich biased , however the commentary team were saying in the first half that norwich were facing quality they had not witnessed previously so far this season ; second half appeared more even and as they said extremely entertaining ; I do agree with Mr AP's comments we must learn to finish the game off . We cannot afford to continue to drop points and we should start setting some milestone targets with the minimum objective of a playoff postion , it can be achieved we just need to be ruthlessly focused . I am waitng for the cup match return with norwich in december and then the away game next year at carrow road which i intend visiting - norfolk saintPards has such a great attitude. He wants good flare attacking football but common sense too. He demands hard work and total effort. The man just doesn't accept second. As a far off fan following the rebuild the best thing has been the way he openly says.. good but bldy well not good enough. Clean sheets and clean strikes is what we need and Pards won't settled for less.. Enjoy the game and football well played but be prepared to demand better... Pards will. This draw was fine but Orient wasn't and Brighton was a disaster.. redemption has to start with another fresh run of good victories.. Glory regained as push up out of the rele zone, take Leeds, reinforce in the window and charge forward in the new year with Pards cracking the whip. Laughing all the way as our neighbours change names from skate to flounder. UP THE SAINTS Nite nite from NZ :)
Allotment man 66, Bitterne says...
10:50am Mon 23 Nov 09
Tirau Dan, Tirau (NZL) says...
10:54am Mon 23 Nov 09
Harleysaint wrote:Smashing to hear stories from the stands like yours.. I noted that it was Jacob Mellis that go them both away late in the game.. he really seemed to brighten things up at the death.
Tirau Dan wrote:Morning Dan.
Norfolk Saint wrote: I listened to the match on radio norfolk , obviously it was norwich biased , however the commentary team were saying in the first half that norwich were facing quality they had not witnessed previously so far this season ; second half appeared more even and as they said extremely entertaining ; I do agree with Mr AP's comments we must learn to finish the game off . We cannot afford to continue to drop points and we should start setting some milestone targets with the minimum objective of a playoff postion , it can be achieved we just need to be ruthlessly focused . I am waitng for the cup match return with norwich in december and then the away game next year at carrow road which i intend visiting - norfolk saintPards has such a great attitude. He wants good flare attacking football but common sense too. He demands hard work and total effort. The man just doesn't accept second. As a far off fan following the rebuild the best thing has been the way he openly says.. good but bldy well not good enough. Clean sheets and clean strikes is what we need and Pards won't settled for less.. Enjoy the game and football well played but be prepared to demand better... Pards will. This draw was fine but Orient wasn't and Brighton was a disaster.. redemption has to start with another fresh run of good victories.. Glory regained as push up out of the rele zone, take Leeds, reinforce in the window and charge forward in the new year with Pards cracking the whip. Laughing all the way as our neighbours change names from skate to flounder. UP THE SAINTS Nite nite from NZ :)
Great game even though very soggy in the front row!
Apart from putting Murty on, to remove the risk of James conceding another penalty, I did not get the impression that AP instructed the boys to shut up shop. We looked like we were going for 3-1 and then 3-2 after their second.
If the lino on the Kingsland side had not flagged wrongly both Adam and Papa I think we would have won!
Both possess blistering pace and this is what confused the official.
Play was directly opposite where I was sitting and on both occasions they were 2 yards onside when the ball was played!!
Still bitter and twisted 2 days later!
Should have and deserved to have won it!!
Will post your programme today when the rain eases off here.
Its only just dried out after saturday! ;-)
puppy saint, republic of bitterne triangle says...
11:03am Mon 23 Nov 09
corporal punishment, ypres says...
11:18am Mon 23 Nov 09
Mistress Ploppy wrote:
Re your first post - how can you laugh at us!!!!!!!! Anyway, I hope this is my only post here today but we have your lot on our forum again. If they continue you know we will be back.
corporal punishment, ypres says...
11:19am Mon 23 Nov 09
corporal punishment wrote:Pompey are set to be without David James for the next three weeks of their continuing battle to remain in the Premier League.
Mistress Ploppy wrote: Re your first post - how can you laugh at us!!!!!!!! Anyway, I hope this is my only post here today but we have your lot on our forum again. If they continue you know we will be back.Paul Hart surveyed Pompey's 10th defeat of the season and insisted: We can still stay up. A 1-0 slump at Stoke yesterday means the Blues have now lost 10 of their 13 Premier League games this season. They now find themselves four points adrift of safety as the battle to remain in the top flight continues. Yet Hart was given plenty of encouragement from his side's Britannia Stadium showing. The visitors were left to rue Prince Boateng's seventh-minute penalty miss, while overall they controlled the match for large periods. In the end, Ricardo Fuller's 74th-minute strike settled matters and inflicted another defeat on Pompey. But Hart is adamant in the belief his side can still avoid the drop. He said: 'You can't legislate for missing a penalty and I thought we played well, defended extremely well and controlled most of the game. 'I think to say that we are disappointed not to have something from it is an understatement. 'We could have done with three points, but we still believe that we are going to get out of this and we think in the final analysis six months down the line that goal difference will be important. 'Nobody's really got away yet, there's a chance that people will come back towards us as well. 'So I think – and I said this right at the start of the season – there is going to be seven or eight teams in the mix. 'We get two wins on the bounce – which we are very capable of doing – and the picture changes. 'My only concern now is to keep the players in that sort of confident form to go out and play as they can do. 'You look at the Wigan result yesterday. I still believe we'll get out of this and goal difference will be a massive thing by the end of the season.' Despite the latest body blow to their survival hopes, in general, Hart was thoroughly pleased with the performance of his troops. Pompey had to cope without injured duo Hassan Yebda and Nadir Belhadj, while David James joined them on the sidelines after pulling his calf in the warm up. Meanwhile, there was a rare start for Hayden Mullins, and Hermann Hreidarsson was making his first appearance of the campaign. And Hart was delighted with their contributions. He added: 'The performance was excellent. They've had one real meaningful shot, I don't think the goalie has had a shot to save all game. 'What you have to say is that we had a penalty in the first few minutes and if we score that it's a totally different game. 'But Jamie O'Hara played very well for us, as did Michael Brown. 'There were some stalwart performances all over the pitch. 'Hayden Mullins came in and did a great job in that position and I thought we caused Stoke an awful lot of problems. 'As for Hermann, he was brilliant. That's his first game in something like seven months, he's a great character.
corporal punishment, ypres says...
11:19am Mon 23 Nov 09
a realist perspective, says...
11:21am Mon 23 Nov 09
Norfolk Saint wrote:Well, I might still have £50 at 16-1 on Saints reaching the play-offs, but I'm starting to write it off now. OK we can afford to drop two points to Norwich, wo are a very good team, but only one point from the six we should have had against Orient and Brighton have left us with an awful lot of work to do after Christmas. Let's face it, we're 16 points off 6th place, whcih is a big ask. If it had been 11 I think we could reasonably have expected to have a pop at it. AP is clearly more realistic than I was, when he set a target for top half of the table. It's true the team is only just gelling together, so we'll probably have to be patient for a while.
I listened to the match on radio norfolk , obviously it was norwich biased , however the commentary team were saying in the first half that norwich were facing quality they had not witnessed previously so far this season ; second half appeared more even and as they said extremely entertaining ; I do agree with Mr AP's comments we must learn to finish the game off . We cannot afford to continue to drop points and we should start setting some milestone targets with the minimum objective of a playoff postion , it can be achieved we just need to be ruthlessly focused . I am waitng for the cup match return with norwich in december and then the away game next year at carrow road which i intend visiting - norfolk saint
Mac the North, alnwick says...
12:38pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Rich Unemployed Saint, Warmley says...
12:48pm Mon 23 Nov 09
season ticket holder, totton says...
12:56pm Mon 23 Nov 09
corporal punishment wrote:I thought this forum was supposed to be about Saints v Norwich.
corporal punishment wrote:Pompey are set to be without David James for the next three weeks of their continuing battle to remain in the Premier League. The England keeper injured his left calf during the warm-up before yesterday's clash at Stoke. As a result, Jamie Ashdown was called up from the bench to deputise, with Antti Niemi named among the substitutes. Ashdown was helpless to prevent Ricardo Fuller's 74th- minute winner. Pompey now face an anxious wait to discover the full extent of James' injury. However, Paul Hart expects the veteran keeper to spend the next three weeks on the sidelines. That would rule him out of this Saturday's visit of Manchester United, the Carling Cup quarter-final against Aston Villa and also fixtures against Burnley and Sunderland. But the Blues boss insisted James' absence is not linked to the keeper's on-going knee concerns. Hart said: 'David pulled his calf, it may be compensatory but we are not sure yet. 'A calf muscle is probably about three weeks out. I think he will be fit for the World Cup. 'With his knee, we are managing the situation at the moment and – up until now – he's been out on the pitch. 'He has to do some gym work to help him through it but he's been out there playing still. He's not been a real problem. 'He hasn't got a knee injury, he had an operation on it in the summer. There are some things we have to manage in terms of rehabilitation but he's been getting out there on the pitch. 'This is a calf injury.'Mistress Ploppy wrote: Re your first post - how can you laugh at us!!!!!!!! Anyway, I hope this is my only post here today but we have your lot on our forum again. If they continue you know we will be back.Paul Hart surveyed Pompey's 10th defeat of the season and insisted: We can still stay up. A 1-0 slump at Stoke yesterday means the Blues have now lost 10 of their 13 Premier League games this season. They now find themselves four points adrift of safety as the battle to remain in the top flight continues. Yet Hart was given plenty of encouragement from his side's Britannia Stadium showing. The visitors were left to rue Prince Boateng's seventh-minute penalty miss, while overall they controlled the match for large periods. In the end, Ricardo Fuller's 74th-minute strike settled matters and inflicted another defeat on Pompey. But Hart is adamant in the belief his side can still avoid the drop. He said: 'You can't legislate for missing a penalty and I thought we played well, defended extremely well and controlled most of the game. 'I think to say that we are disappointed not to have something from it is an understatement. 'We could have done with three points, but we still believe that we are going to get out of this and we think in the final analysis six months down the line that goal difference will be important. 'Nobody's really got away yet, there's a chance that people will come back towards us as well. 'So I think – and I said this right at the start of the season – there is going to be seven or eight teams in the mix. 'We get two wins on the bounce – which we are very capable of doing – and the picture changes. 'My only concern now is to keep the players in that sort of confident form to go out and play as they can do. 'You look at the Wigan result yesterday. I still believe we'll get out of this and goal difference will be a massive thing by the end of the season.' Despite the latest body blow to their survival hopes, in general, Hart was thoroughly pleased with the performance of his troops. Pompey had to cope without injured duo Hassan Yebda and Nadir Belhadj, while David James joined them on the sidelines after pulling his calf in the warm up. Meanwhile, there was a rare start for Hayden Mullins, and Hermann Hreidarsson was making his first appearance of the campaign. And Hart was delighted with their contributions. He added: 'The performance was excellent. They've had one real meaningful shot, I don't think the goalie has had a shot to save all game. 'What you have to say is that we had a penalty in the first few minutes and if we score that it's a totally different game. 'But Jamie O'Hara played very well for us, as did Michael Brown. 'There were some stalwart performances all over the pitch. 'Hayden Mullins came in and did a great job in that position and I thought we caused Stoke an awful lot of problems. 'As for Hermann, he was brilliant. That's his first game in something like seven months, he's a great character.
GHamilton, Swindon says...
12:57pm Mon 23 Nov 09
SomersetSaint, Yeovil says...
1:09pm Mon 23 Nov 09
St Retford, Manchester says...
1:16pm Mon 23 Nov 09
gosportsaint, gosport says...
2:15pm Mon 23 Nov 09
costa gaz, fuente del marques says...
2:18pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Allotment man 66 wrote:I agree, we need to hold on to a lead and if that means sacrificing a striker, then so be it.
Prads said we would have won if turned ugly. All I can say is let's turn UGLY and win.
Costa Baz, Southampton says...
2:44pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Rich Unemployed Saint, Warmley says...
2:51pm Mon 23 Nov 09
mack chinnon, southampton says...
2:56pm Mon 23 Nov 09
costa gaz wrote:Agreed.
Allotment man 66 wrote: Prads said we would have won if turned ugly. All I can say is let's turn UGLY and win.I agree, we need to hold on to a lead and if that means sacrificing a striker, then so be it. Also, I be on my own, but I cannot read comments of more than about 100 words, they become very boring. Keep them short and to the point.
season ticket holder, totton says...
2:57pm Mon 23 Nov 09
St Retford wrote:If we play against a team with quick forwards like Norwich, Leeds & Brighton then perhaps we should have Chris Perry alongside Jaidi at the back instead of Trotman
Without wishing to state the obvious, I'd say our problems on Saturday were down to a lack of pace and sharpness in the defence. Both goals happened because their forwards reacted to rebounds faster than our defenders, and if I was KD I'd be very hacked off about that, especially after his penalty save. But, in a way, that's something we're just going to have to learn to live with. We've picked a central defensive pairing that in general is right for this League. Most teams aren't Norwich - most will try and score by playing long balls into the box and looking to get a head on them. We can defend against that all day long because our defenders are great big lumbering mothers. However, they're not the quickest on their feet so when teams play with pace and precision through us then we'll be exposed. Fortunately, most teams in this league don't play with pace and precision so we're going to win an awful lot more than we lose and I still think we'll do enough to reach the play-offs. However, when we're playing the decent sides in this division (who are basically just Leeds and Norwich) we're going to have to score a lot of goals, because we're certainly going to concede.
saintmac, Brighton says...
2:58pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Sainty saint saint, Southampton says...
3:12pm Mon 23 Nov 09
ray the turk, southampton now living in Turkey says...
3:43pm Mon 23 Nov 09
puppy saint, republic of bitterne triangle says...
3:46pm Mon 23 Nov 09
montechristoes, canterbury says...
5:11pm Mon 23 Nov 09
slugger, southampton says...
5:42pm Mon 23 Nov 09
puppy saint wrote:just seen it.......quality !
third eye moment from highlights! watch the Norwich fan attempt to celebrate their first goal (unlucky KD!). this individual decides to join the pitchside celebrations but completely forgets the fact that they are 3 rows back! talk about a face plant! you just see him/her drag themselves to their feet as the players celebrate! that's got to hurt! Cheered me up no end!
Tirau Dan, Tirau (NZL) says...
5:52pm Mon 23 Nov 09
ray the turk wrote:Gem!
A bit of Hartlepool's history, it would seem..Should help us beat this north east team.
In the days of the Napoleonic war,
A french ship was washed up on their shore.
Thinking they had captured a frog,
the sole survivor, they did flog.
After whipping, torturing and turning the screw..
They got nothing from him, so, what did they do?
They took him to Hartlepool's main square,
stripped him and cut off all of his hair.
Then they hung him from the highest tree..
But, what they hung was a chimpanzee.
So anywhere in Hartlepool you go..
Sing, "Who hung the monkeyo"!!
All of the Hartlepool's fans enjoy..
this idle banter.. boy oh boy.
I am sure they will love it, that we should rember..
little bits of history.. like the 5th of november.
Tirau Dan, Tirau (NZL) says...
5:58pm Mon 23 Nov 09
slugger, southampton says...
5:59pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Tirau Dan, Tirau (NZL) says...
6:13pm Mon 23 Nov 09
slugger wrote:lol me too last week.. you'll get fans mail soon :)
hey,iv'e been published again !!
gonna get my own column soon.
coyr
milton road, cambridge says...
8:11pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Sloughsaints41, Slough says...
8:14pm Mon 23 Nov 09
saintsayer, Chandlersford says...
8:22pm Mon 23 Nov 09
slugger, southampton says...
8:44pm Mon 23 Nov 09
saintsayer wrote:just proves how you can make stats say anything you like...LOL
Now that Murtyrty is back let LJ go into mid-field He can always drop deep to help the back 4 so the centre backs can play close to-gether and James goes between them and either full back depending which side we are bein attacked on As far as the rest of the season is concerned first take these 2 statements as fact 50 points equals safety 76 points equals play offs Before a ball was kicked we needed 1.08 points per game to get to safety (60 divided by 46) We now need 1.27 points per game so we have more to do Before a ball was kicked we needed 1.86 points per game to reach the play offs we now need 2.17 So again more to do now than at the start Our average so far is 1.35 points per game but over the last 7 games it goes to 2.14 A win at hartlepool would take the average over the last 8 to 2.25 i.e above the average we need to make the play offs Keep the faith Luvin it
Bronson69, southampton says...
10:56pm Mon 23 Nov 09
slugger wrote:Dissapointed none of my jokes dont get published,just cant understand it.
hey,iv'e been published again !! gonna get my own column soon. coyr
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
11:11pm Mon 23 Nov 09
season ticket holder wrote:I agree.
St Retford wrote: Without wishing to state the obvious, I'd say our problems on Saturday were down to a lack of pace and sharpness in the defence. Both goals happened because their forwards reacted to rebounds faster than our defenders, and if I was KD I'd be very hacked off about that, especially after his penalty save. But, in a way, that's something we're just going to have to learn to live with. We've picked a central defensive pairing that in general is right for this League. Most teams aren't Norwich - most will try and score by playing long balls into the box and looking to get a head on them. We can defend against that all day long because our defenders are great big lumbering mothers. However, they're not the quickest on their feet so when teams play with pace and precision through us then we'll be exposed. Fortunately, most teams in this league don't play with pace and precision so we're going to win an awful lot more than we lose and I still think we'll do enough to reach the play-offs. However, when we're playing the decent sides in this division (who are basically just Leeds and Norwich) we're going to have to score a lot of goals, because we're certainly going to concede.If we play against a team with quick forwards like Norwich, Leeds & Brighton then perhaps we should have Chris Perry alongside Jaidi at the back instead of Trotman
Bronson69, southampton says...
11:22pm Mon 23 Nov 09
E-M27, Southampton says...
11:52pm Mon 23 Nov 09
Bronson69 wrote:That's why they don't get published!
A man staggered into a hospital with a concussion, multiple bruises, two black eyes and a five iron wrapped tightly around his throat. Naturally the doctor asked him, " what happened to you?" "Well I was having a quiet round of golf with my wife, when at a difficult hole, we both sliced our balls into a cow pasture, we went to look for them and while I was looking around I noticed one of the cows had something white at its rear end" " I walked over, lifted its tail, and sure enough, there was a golf ball with my wifes monogram on it - stuck right in the middle of the cows butt, still holding the cows tail up, I yelled to my wife " Hey this looks like yours!" I don`t remember much after that.
E-M27, Southampton says...
12:04am Tue 24 Nov 09
E-M27, Southampton says...
12:08am Tue 24 Nov 09
Mistress Ploppy wrote:F**K Off and put your fish back in the bath, ploppy pants
Re your first post - how can you laugh at us!!!!!!!! Anyway, I hope this is my only post here today but we have your lot on our forum again. If they continue you know we will be back.
just kidding, Austin Texas says...
1:45am Tue 24 Nov 09
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mack chinnon, southampton says...
8:06am Mon 23 Nov 09