Carlisle United return 10 per cent of Johnstone's Paint Trophy final tickets (From Daily Echo)

rossofficial wrote:
im having a real nightmare booking my ticket on the booking phone 0800 number! you end up listening to music for a long time and then it says please try again later! ive wasted 10 quid phone credit already! the phone line should tell you where you are in the queue!! disgrace

w1lkins822 wrote:

rossofficial wrote: im having a real nightmare booking my ticket on the booking phone 0800 number! you end up listening to music for a long time and then it says please try again later! ive wasted 10 quid phone credit already! the phone line should tell you where you are in the queue!! disgrace

I know that feeling when we were in the premiership we had a phone line that held you in the queue and told you where you were in it. now it just blows you out after listening to that voice message going on about ticket options bet they are making loads of money out of us that way

rossofficial wrote:
im having a real nightmare booking my ticket on the booking phone 0800 number! you end up listening to music for a long time and then it says please try again later! ive wasted 10 quid phone credit already! the phone line should tell you where you are in the queue!! disgrace

adscm wrote:

rossofficial wrote: im having a real nightmare booking my ticket on the booking phone 0800 number! you end up listening to music for a long time and then it says please try again later! ive wasted 10 quid phone credit already! the phone line should tell you where you are in the queue!! disgrace

Likewise! I don't mind getting on the phone early or waiting in a phone-queue. But what has really angered me is that five times this morning between 8.30am and 11am, I've been holding on only to be bumped out of the queue each time after about five minutes!!!! So, not only have I struggled to get into the queue in the first place, (because you don't join the queue every time you call), I then have to go through the whole process again. I would say that on average it has taken me 15 to 20 re-dials just to get back in the queue without being disconnected immediately. I'm a patience guy but this really is bad service Saints. Once you're in the queue you should remain there until your time comes to speak to an operator. sw "drug-time"!!! It certainly might be if this carries on!

The Wickham Man wrote:
Another wonderful example of broken bureacucratic jobsworth Britain - where nobody is responsible and everyone points the blame at someone else for what is a complete fiasco. Why build a £750m stadium if petty rules and regulations mean it can mever be filled? What is the point of an official whose sole job seems to be to ensure that fans cannot watch their team? Of course the official in question will say that it is not his fault it is the police, and the police will say it is H&S regulations, and H&S will deny this........ it's the same story every time A complete shambolic farce, all ultimately caused by an overcentralised controlling Labour Government.

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:
Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free! Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go. It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k. Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:
Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free!

Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go.

It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k.

Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Fourth Bear wrote:

EarlsCourtSaint wrote: Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free! Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go. It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k. Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Boo Hoo! STH and regular attendees should be rewarded for their loyalty. If we do receive another 6,000 tickets (we won't btw) then perhaps they should be sold to any fan willing to prove their loyalty and purchasing a 2010/11 season ticket with each cup final ticket to prove your conclusion. Trouble is on the rare occassion this club has some success we have fans coming out of the woodwork moaning and whinging about being unable to get a ticket. Your argument about loyalty is tired and unproven because the stats tell us that once the memory fades the whingers soon find something else to do than support Saints on more mundane match days. It's human nature we have an inbred fear of missing out on something but in this case ensure you are a ST holder and the fear will go away. Better luck next time, provided you don't wait for success again to prove your worth and motivation as a supporter and not just a fan.

Fourth Bear wrote:

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:
Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free! Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go. It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k. Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Boo Hoo!

STH and regular attendees should be rewarded for their loyalty. If we do receive another 6,000 tickets (we won't btw) then perhaps they should be sold to any fan willing to prove their loyalty and purchasing a 2010/11 season ticket with each cup final ticket to prove your conclusion.

Trouble is on the rare occassion this club has some success we have fans coming out of the woodwork moaning and whinging about being unable to get a ticket. Your argument about loyalty is tired and unproven because the stats tell us that once the memory fades the whingers soon find something else to do than support Saints on more mundane match days.

It's human nature we have an inbred fear of missing out on something but in this case ensure you are a ST holder and the fear will go away.

Better luck next time, provided you don't wait for success again to prove your worth and motivation as a supporter and not just a fan.

Fourth Bear wrote:

EarlsCourtSaint wrote: Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free! Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go. It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k. Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Boo Hoo! STH and regular attendees should be rewarded for their loyalty. If we do receive another 6,000 tickets (we won't btw) then perhaps they should be sold to any fan willing to prove their loyalty and purchasing a 2010/11 season ticket with each cup final ticket to prove your conclusion. Trouble is on the rare occassion this club has some success we have fans coming out of the woodwork moaning and whinging about being unable to get a ticket. Your argument about loyalty is tired and unproven because the stats tell us that once the memory fades the whingers soon find something else to do than support Saints on more mundane match days. It's human nature we have an inbred fear of missing out on something but in this case ensure you are a ST holder and the fear will go away. Better luck next time, provided you don't wait for success again to prove your worth and motivation as a supporter and not just a fan.

The Wickham Man wrote:
Another wonderful example of broken bureacucratic jobsworth Britain - where nobody is responsible and everyone points the blame at someone else for what is a complete fiasco. Why build a £750m stadium if petty rules and regulations mean it can mever be filled? What is the point of an official whose sole job seems to be to ensure that fans cannot watch their team? Of course the official in question will say that it is not his fault it is the police, and the police will say it is H&S regulations, and H&S will deny this........ it's the same story every time A complete shambolic farce, all ultimately caused by an overcentralised controlling Labour Government.

SFC1981 wrote:
Got my tickets at 9 this morning, don't bother with the 0800 number it's useless. Call direct on 01271 335708 and keep redialing till it rings. As long as you have your mates previous booking ID numbers you can buy up to 4 tickets. Roll on the 28th, COYR!!!!

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:
Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free!

Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go.

It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k.

Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

AdmiralDB wrote:
I must have posted this several times but the empty seats are in a middle tier that are owned by England season ticket holders of Wembley Stadium. Saints and Carlisle already have reached the safe limit of people for the lower and upper tiers. End of!

On the N332 wrote:

AdmiralDB wrote:
I must have posted this several times but the empty seats are in a middle tier that are owned by England season ticket holders of Wembley Stadium. Saints and Carlisle already have reached the safe limit of people for the lower and upper tiers. End of!

Thanks, Admiral. Point noted and accepted. So perhaps the Echo et al should revise their standpoint on segregation then.

The Paints are coming!!!

random_sam69 wrote:
The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

random_sam69 wrote:
The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

Ragworm wrote:
Any good sports bars in Southampton?. Been a while since i've ventured out into Taannn.. Is the place in Leisure world still there?.

french fan club wrote:
So would you say that when its the FA cup final, that those tickets / seats if not taken by england season ticket holders will reamin unsold. i think not!!!
If Leeds had got to the final we all know that each club would have been given 44500 tickets each.
Its rubbish to say that it is impossible to sell the rest.

le god wrote:

Ragworm wrote: Any good sports bars in Southampton?. Been a while since i've ventured out into Taannn.. Is the place in Leisure world still there?.

Why don't you venture to SMS on Saturday instead. Much more going on than at Leisure World

The Wickham Man wrote:
Another wonderful example of broken bureacucratic jobsworth Britain - where nobody is responsible and everyone points the blame at someone else for what is a complete fiasco. Why build a £750m stadium if petty rules and regulations mean it can mever be filled? What is the point of an official whose sole job seems to be to ensure that fans cannot watch their team? Of course the official in question will say that it is not his fault it is the police, and the police will say it is H&S regulations, and H&S will deny this........ it's the same story every time A complete shambolic farce, all ultimately caused by an overcentralised controlling Labour Government.

random_sam69 wrote:
The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

le god wrote:

random_sam69 wrote: The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

The FA hate us so much that in 2002 England played Macedonia in Qualifying game for the European Championship. Get a life, you are paranoid

St.Yorkie wrote:

le god wrote:

random_sam69 wrote: The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

The FA hate us so much that in 2002 England played Macedonia in Qualifying game for the European Championship. Get a life, you are paranoid

Yes but come on that was in the days when the catering was more important than the football at SMS! It was alledgedly the best in The Premiership - if the catering at Old Trafford was anything to go by recently - all football stadia catering must be pretty dire fare!

Saintj01 wrote:
'Will you all listen to yourselves'? Wembley...Great day Out? Where the hell have you all been all Season? St Marys hasnt been full at every game?, so there was room for you? As a Season Ticket holder throughout all the Divisions we have been in, all those cold Tuesday Nights watching 1st League Football, where were you? Glad your all proud of your team...but Glory Seekers springs to mind!!"!!

Saintj01 wrote:
'Will you all listen to yourselves'? Wembley...Great day Out? Where the hell have you all been all Season? St Marys hasnt been full at every game?, so there was room for you? As a Season Ticket holder throughout all the Divisions we have been in, all those cold Tuesday Nights watching 1st League Football, where were you? Glad your all proud of your team...but Glory Seekers springs to mind!!"!!

Ragworm wrote:

Saintj01 wrote: 'Will you all listen to yourselves'? Wembley...Great day Out? Where the hell have you all been all Season? St Marys hasnt been full at every game?, so there was room for you? As a Season Ticket holder throughout all the Divisions we have been in, all those cold Tuesday Nights watching 1st League Football, where were you? Glad your all proud of your team...but Glory Seekers springs to mind!!"!!

And another one. Unbelievable..

saintrooty wrote:
Please can we stop the "im a better and more deserving fan than you as I have a season ticket" b@llocks. Of course people are going to want to see saints at wembley and no matter what ticket system is in place, not everyone is going to be happy. I agree with the the posters that say if it means weekly attendances will rise then great, its a worthwhile thing. So please, we all love Saints some more than others maybe but we should be united in this support, not lauding the fact you have a season ticket and questioning other fans commitment to this club.

Ragworm wrote:

saintrooty wrote: Please can we stop the "im a better and more deserving fan than you as I have a season ticket" b@llocks. Of course people are going to want to see saints at wembley and no matter what ticket system is in place, not everyone is going to be happy. I agree with the the posters that say if it means weekly attendances will rise then great, its a worthwhile thing. So please, we all love Saints some more than others maybe but we should be united in this support, not lauding the fact you have a season ticket and questioning other fans commitment to this club.

" i like this "

E-M27 wrote:

Ragworm wrote:

saintrooty wrote: Please can we stop the "im a better and more deserving fan than you as I have a season ticket" b@llocks. Of course people are going to want to see saints at wembley and no matter what ticket system is in place, not everyone is going to be happy. I agree with the the posters that say if it means weekly attendances will rise then great, its a worthwhile thing. So please, we all love Saints some more than others maybe but we should be united in this support, not lauding the fact you have a season ticket and questioning other fans commitment to this club.

" i like this "

I agree but.... Season ticket holders are really great!!

Saint Pete II wrote:
I'm not entirely convinced by the Wembley season ticket argument. If Carlisle had the fan base, they too could have applied for 44,000 tickets. This leaves 2,000 for wembley season ticket holders, not 20,000. I would be surprised if nearly 25% of the stadium seats were owned by Wembley season ticket holders and were fitted out with luxury padded seats with access to exclusive bars and restaurants. This seems a massive mis-judgement of seat allocation which i'm sure even the FA wouldn't have done. 2,000 luxury seats sounds much more plausible. By all means correct me if I am wrong on this. This is based on assumptions in my often confused brain and not hard evidence lol!

The way I understand it is that Wembley stadium has been built in such a way that half the stadium is connected through seats, concourses bars etc. And so is the other half. And both halves are segregated from each other. What they are saying is they can't give us more seats as they would be in the other half of the stadium that would be directly connected to the Carlisle fans. It's a matter of logistics, not politics!

In conclusion, if I understand correctly, it is a direct result of a poorly designed stadium that cost £750m and still can't cater for varying home/away crowd sizes!

The Moog wrote:

random_sam69 wrote: The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

How paranoid are you? You must go about in a constant state of fear!

Harleysaint wrote:

The Moog wrote:

random_sam69 wrote: The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

How paranoid are you? You must go about in a constant state of fear!

Hearts and Minds Sir....Hearts and Minds ;-) Paranoid lives down the road!!! COYRAWAPMACHINE!!!!

saint Compo wrote:
I have been a Saints supporter for more than 50 years and have attended many great Saints matches including the cup game against Leeds when the lights went out and Derek Reeves scored all 5 Saints goals, via the FA Cup semi-final against Man Utd. at Villa Park, the effective promotion winning game in 1966 at Leyton Orient, the 5-0 defeat of Notts Forest at White Hart Lane, the 1976 FA Cup final, the 1978 League Cup final, Shearer's debut/hat-trick game v Arsenal, the last game at the Dell and the first at St Mary's and the 2003 FA Cup final. But, as I am no longer a season ticket holder and couldn't get to the MK Dons semi-final, I have been unable to get a ticket to the JPT final. Nor can my son (indoctrinated from birth, despite the best efforts of my Liverpudlian wife to claim his soul, and also a season ticket holder until recently). Fair play to season ticket holders and those who did get to the MK Dons game, who fully deserve first bite of the cherry (although I'm not sure they should have been allowed 2 tickets each - how many will end up on e-Bay?). Congratulations to the football authorities for their crass stupidity in letting 20,000 tickets go begging when many Saints fans will have to watch the game on TV and miss the fantastic match day atmosphere at Wembley. Their arrogance and incompetence beggar belief! How can they even think they deserve to host a World Cup when they can't even organise a JPT final. It's also a shame for Johnstone's Paint mthat their trophy will be sold short. Maybe we could at least compensate by using their paint when we paint the town red! Would those who go to the match, please sing their hearts out throughout the game. I will be doubly upset if you let me down. Enjoy the occasion and bring home the cup. COYR

Ozmosis wrote:

random_sam69 wrote: The answer is simple, the FA hate us, they always have done. They tried to have us wound up but luckily Liebherr and Cortese came to the rescue. They ensure as many ref decisions go against us as possible. They see situations that are likely to go in our favour and they rule against them. They know that Pompey are our rivals so they do everything they can to help them. The FA don't have a justified reason for hating us, they just do, and that hatred means that half the seats at Wembley will be empty. They don't want the world to know just how much support we do have, they are worried someone might take notice.

Blimey, with that much pent up paranoia I'm surprised you're able to leave the house in the morning!

Ragworm wrote:
I think everyone without tickets should turn up on the day and demand entry.
The JPT has never had so much support, good on the Saints fans.
Just goes to show how much support we have.
Not the most glamerous final in the world, but that doesn't stop the desire to celebrate our club.

My View from the Hill wrote:

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:
Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free!

Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go.

It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k.

Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Got my ticket, but need two for my lads, both on the database but can't get through, absolute fiasco, trying the number you gave now.

Fingers crossed, otherwise two disappointed teenagers tonight when I get home.

SUUUPERSAINT wrote:

Ragworm wrote:
I think everyone without tickets should turn up on the day and demand entry.
The JPT has never had so much support, good on the Saints fans.
Just goes to show how much support we have.
Not the most glamerous final in the world, but that doesn't stop the desire to celebrate our club.

Totally agree. There will be thousands of disappointed saints fans who will be watching the seats they could have been sat in for 90 minutes. I feel sorry for all you fans out there who couldn't get a ticket because of poor organization by the dimwits in charge of the whole thing.

EarlsCourtSaint wrote:

Fourth Bear wrote:

EarlsCourtSaint wrote: Firstly the club will not be making a penny from the 0800 number - it's a free phone number so is therefore - free! Try the 01271 335708 - I got through after about 45 mins this morning. Still could not buy an extra ticket for my son as he is not on the database and I already have mine, but was worth a go. It is a joke we can't get more - although I do have a sneaking feeling that as soon as all 44k have gone we 'might' just get another 6k. Hope so, there are 1000's like me that want to take relatives along for the day - and as for this STH and loyal fans arguement it's rubbish - we have the opportunity to generate more loyal and long term fans through this final, we should do whatever we can to take it.

Boo Hoo! STH and regular attendees should be rewarded for their loyalty. If we do receive another 6,000 tickets (we won't btw) then perhaps they should be sold to any fan willing to prove their loyalty and purchasing a 2010/11 season ticket with each cup final ticket to prove your conclusion. Trouble is on the rare occassion this club has some success we have fans coming out of the woodwork moaning and whinging about being unable to get a ticket. Your argument about loyalty is tired and unproven because the stats tell us that once the memory fades the whingers soon find something else to do than support Saints on more mundane match days. It's human nature we have an inbred fear of missing out on something but in this case ensure you are a ST holder and the fear will go away. Better luck next time, provided you don't wait for success again to prove your worth and motivation as a supporter and not just a fan.

The only fans or supporters that will not get tickets are those that are not STHs, friend of STHs or that did not attend either of the semi finals - I don't think that there will be many regular attendees that will miss out. I agree therefore that STH and regular attendees are rightly being rewarded for their loyalty.

My point here is that this offers a great opportunity to increase the fan base and get more people, especially kids, to support Saints rather than walking round the city in Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal shirts!

Just because you are a STH now does not make you a better fan than anyone else - it simply means you have the money, proximity and circumstances to attend games. Good on you, you had first bite of the cherry, I had 2nd as I went to the Semi - I'm simply saying that more Dads could take their sons, daughters etc if the FA and Wembley saw sense and gave us more tickets!!

Soopersaints wrote:
Der! 2/3ds of the stadium? 60,000 tickets? Sadly not my friend. Also, why do you keep suggesting that there are over 20,000 seats kept for Wembley season ticket holders? How would that have worked then if Leeds had got through?