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12:03pm Tuesday 31st August 2010 in
THE figures below show why the Saints manager’s job is one of the warmest hot-seats in English football.
Following on from Alan Pardew’s Bank Holiday departure, the club are now searching, remarkably, for their 13th permanent boss of the Millennium.
Pardew was dismissed having only been in charge for 49 league games, but that was still more than six of his seven predecessors managed.
Given the exceptional turnover of managers at Saints in recent years, not one boss since Chris Nicholl left in 1991 has completed 100 league games in charge.
The nearest was George Burley, who was in charge for 99 games – including two in the play-offs – prior to leaving for the Scotland job in January 2008.
Four managers have failed to even last 20 league games in charge.
The shortest reign was just the 13 games Paul Sturrock managed in 2003/04 and early 2004/05 prior to his departure which was announced as mutual consent.
Up until 1991, though, Saints had only had three managers in 36 years!
Ted Bates was in charge from 1955-1973, followed by Lawrie McMenemy serving 12 years and Chris Nicholl serving six.
The late, great Alan Ball used to tel everyone who asked that all managers really need three years in charge before they can be judged a success or failure.
Amazingly, no Saints manager has lasted that long in charge since Nicholl two decades ago. The best was Dave Jones (two years and seven months).
Pardew was sacked having won 53 per cent of his 64 league and cup games.
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Jasper7
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12:13pm Tue 31 Aug 10
nate4456
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12:50pm Tue 31 Aug 10
cpnhaddock
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12:51pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Sainted Aunt
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1:01pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Atpost wrote:Yeah **** the club right mate! As long as you're proved right! We could do with more fans like you right now!!!!!
HAVEN'T LAUGHED SO MUCH FOR A LONG TIME: 2 REASONS. 1. I told you this was going to happen 2 weeks ago, and several aggressive mor0ns accused me of being out of touch and anti-saints. 2. I have read with great mirth the chameleon statements from the l0sers who LUVVED Pardew last week, now they agree that nickers is doing the right thing. WELL, WHICH ONE IS IT? Ha ha ha ha He he he he
Brussel sprouts are evil
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1:02pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Atpost wrote:Yeah, well even a broken clock is right twice a day
HAVEN'T LAUGHED SO MUCH FOR A LONG TIME: 2 REASONS.
1. I told you this was going to happen 2 weeks ago, and several aggressive mor0ns accused me of being out of touch and anti-saints.
2. I have read with great mirth the chameleon statements from the l0sers who LUVVED Pardew last week, now they agree that nickers is doing the right thing. WELL, WHICH ONE IS IT?
Ha ha ha ha
He he he he
SFC-WILL
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1:11pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Elgy
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1:12pm Tue 31 Aug 10
JohnItaly
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1:12pm Tue 31 Aug 10
cpnhaddock wrote:Absolutely. Hart's win % is 30. If appointed this will really test the allegiance of those who have faith in NC.
Right - I am praying this is a wind up but Sky Sports News are saying that Paul Hart is high up on our 'wish list'...... Lord help us if he is!!!!...... I would accept Nigel Pearson, Phil Brown, MARTIN ONEIL, Zola, Shearer,Cotterill, Howes, Santa Claus....... BUT NOT HART!!!!!.... He is useless!!!!!........ I neither agree nor disagree with Pards sacking because we dont know what went on behind the scenes.... but if Hart comes it is far from a progressive step!! COYWWRS!!!
EricMartin'sHat
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1:12pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Saintjon
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1:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10
lroberts2010
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1:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Saintjon
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1:23pm Tue 31 Aug 10
lroberts2010 wrote:Do you know this for a fact? I really hope you are right. If it turns out to be Paul Hart im gonna top myself.
martin oneill was at the game last saturday so i think it might be him which will be a good thing
Dookiez
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1:38pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Atpost
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1:45pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Jasper7 wrote:I can predict
OK, you did. But you also stated that relegation is on the cards this season. Do you have tea with the Pakistani cricket team?
Nic on the N332
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1:57pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Brussel sprouts are evil
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2:02pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Nic on the N332 wrote:Saints have said on their Twitter feed that it is 'agent talk'.
I do not want to believe what I have read on Sky Sports: "Southampton have approached former Portsmouth boss Paul Hart over the vacant managerial position at St Mary's, Sky Sports sources understand."
His face doesn't fit, neither does the baggage that would come with him. There are plenty of other 'tough guys' who could come in (excluding Dowie). Please, NC. Read Harts CV thoroughly. I hope sincerely that this is just a ruse.
Jason D
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2:03pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Nic on the N332
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2:30pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Jason D wrote:Some good points, Jason. And, I agree (with one or two reservations) that AP was as good as we could have hoped for. Trouble is, we'll never know now.
Seriously. Martin O'Neill?
What are you guys smoking?
Why oh why oh why would Martin O'Neill take the Saints job.
We'd be unlikely to get him if we were still in the Premiership.
Is that the same Martin O'Neill that left a team that was going for a four four finish this year but who couldn't live with interference and politics from the boardroom?
So he is impatient for success at Villa and instead decides he will relocate himself to the South for a job in League One with a club that sacks managers win 50% win ratios, a trophy in their first season and a 4-0 away win.
The same guy who still remembers the way Leicester fans treated him and called for his head after a couple of games?
Get real. I truly hope I'm wrong, but Alan Pardew was as good as we could ever have hoped for in this division.
Whoever does come in has to look forward to working with a squad he didn't assemble for four months, with high expectations, not much money left, and a difficult boss.
Add to that the fact that quite a few players will be angling for a move come January if we aren't top of the league and you have a very worrying situation.
Rudolf Hucker
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2:32pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Jason D wrote:Agree with you on this one Jason.
Seriously. Martin O'Neill? What are you guys smoking? Why oh why oh why would Martin O'Neill take the Saints job. We'd be unlikely to get him if we were still in the Premiership. Is that the same Martin O'Neill that left a team that was going for a four four finish this year but who couldn't live with interference and politics from the boardroom? So he is impatient for success at Villa and instead decides he will relocate himself to the South for a job in League One with a club that sacks managers win 50% win ratios, a trophy in their first season and a 4-0 away win. The same guy who still remembers the way Leicester fans treated him and called for his head after a couple of games? Get real. I truly hope I'm wrong, but Alan Pardew was as good as we could ever have hoped for in this division. Whoever does come in has to look forward to working with a squad he didn't assemble for four months, with high expectations, not much money left, and a difficult boss. Add to that the fact that quite a few players will be angling for a move come January if we aren't top of the league and you have a very worrying situation.
legod7
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2:37pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Dookiez
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2:48pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Atpost
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2:49pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Rudolf Hucker wrote:No, I am a west hants man.
Jason D wrote: Seriously. Martin O'Neill? What are you guys smoking? Why oh why oh why would Martin O'Neill take the Saints job. We'd be unlikely to get him if we were still in the Premiership. Is that the same Martin O'Neill that left a team that was going for a four four finish this year but who couldn't live with interference and politics from the boardroom? So he is impatient for success at Villa and instead decides he will relocate himself to the South for a job in League One with a club that sacks managers win 50% win ratios, a trophy in their first season and a 4-0 away win. The same guy who still remembers the way Leicester fans treated him and called for his head after a couple of games? Get real. I truly hope I'm wrong, but Alan Pardew was as good as we could ever have hoped for in this division. Whoever does come in has to look forward to working with a squad he didn't assemble for four months, with high expectations, not much money left, and a difficult boss. Add to that the fact that quite a few players will be angling for a move come January if we aren't top of the league and you have a very worrying situation.Agree with you on this one Jason. Sky sources say Paul Hart.......Thanks, but NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully that knob Atpost of Minstead will f**k off down to Poopie, where he obviously belongs.
Nic on the N332
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3:04pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Brussel sprouts are evil wrote:It's okay. We can relax. The 'approach' was just to tell Hart to bother even thinking about applying.
Nic on the N332 wrote:Saints have said on their Twitter feed that it is 'agent talk'.
I do not want to believe what I have read on Sky Sports: "Southampton have approached former Portsmouth boss Paul Hart over the vacant managerial position at St Mary's, Sky Sports sources understand."
His face doesn't fit, neither does the baggage that would come with him. There are plenty of other 'tough guys' who could come in (excluding Dowie). Please, NC. Read Harts CV thoroughly. I hope sincerely that this is just a ruse.
Nic on the N332
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3:06pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Nic on the N332 wrote:Whoops.Typo. Should be NOT BOTHER. Sorry!
Brussel sprouts are evil wrote:It's okay. We can relax. The 'approach' was just to tell Hart to bother even thinking about applying.
Nic on the N332 wrote:Saints have said on their Twitter feed that it is 'agent talk'.
I do not want to believe what I have read on Sky Sports: "Southampton have approached former Portsmouth boss Paul Hart over the vacant managerial position at St Mary's, Sky Sports sources understand."
His face doesn't fit, neither does the baggage that would come with him. There are plenty of other 'tough guys' who could come in (excluding Dowie). Please, NC. Read Harts CV thoroughly. I hope sincerely that this is just a ruse.
Atpost
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3:09pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Nic on the N332 wrote:NO, right the 1st time.
Nic on the N332 wrote:Whoops.Typo. Should be NOT BOTHER. Sorry!Brussel sprouts are evil wrote:It's okay. We can relax. The 'approach' was just to tell Hart to bother even thinking about applying.Nic on the N332 wrote: I do not want to believe what I have read on Sky Sports: "Southampton have approached former Portsmouth boss Paul Hart over the vacant managerial position at St Mary's, Sky Sports sources understand." His face doesn't fit, neither does the baggage that would come with him. There are plenty of other 'tough guys' who could come in (excluding Dowie). Please, NC. Read Harts CV thoroughly. I hope sincerely that this is just a ruse.Saints have said on their Twitter feed that it is 'agent talk'.
zorba
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3:24pm Tue 31 Aug 10
saint Compo
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3:49pm Tue 31 Aug 10
tinas
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3:50pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Sainted Aunt
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3:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Jason D wrote:Would agree Jason, particularly AP being the best we could hope for and I thought he did well. You never know though, O'Neil thinks he's taken Villa as far as he can, he won't get a job at a club higher up so maybe he might look at a completely fresh challenge! I don't think NC would scare him much! Like I say, you never know! I do smoke though!!!
Seriously. Martin O'Neill? What are you guys smoking? Why oh why oh why would Martin O'Neill take the Saints job. We'd be unlikely to get him if we were still in the Premiership. Is that the same Martin O'Neill that left a team that was going for a four four finish this year but who couldn't live with interference and politics from the boardroom? So he is impatient for success at Villa and instead decides he will relocate himself to the South for a job in League One with a club that sacks managers win 50% win ratios, a trophy in their first season and a 4-0 away win. The same guy who still remembers the way Leicester fans treated him and called for his head after a couple of games? Get real. I truly hope I'm wrong, but Alan Pardew was as good as we could ever have hoped for in this division. Whoever does come in has to look forward to working with a squad he didn't assemble for four months, with high expectations, not much money left, and a difficult boss. Add to that the fact that quite a few players will be angling for a move come January if we aren't top of the league and you have a very worrying situation.
da boss
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4:03pm Tue 31 Aug 10
leosaint
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4:35pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Glenn(Leeds)
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5:26pm Tue 31 Aug 10
saints til i die
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5:33pm Tue 31 Aug 10
rascal123
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5:55pm Tue 31 Aug 10
saints4eva12
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8:58pm Tue 31 Aug 10
pugwash
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9:19pm Tue 31 Aug 10
Dookiez
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10:04pm Tue 31 Aug 10
OSPREYSAINT
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12:01am Wed 1 Sep 10
pugwash wrote:Rupert was a **** cat compared with NC. No comparison.
THERE MUST SOMEHOW BE A WAY TO BLAME THIS MESS ON RUPERT-COME ON ECHO,COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO PLEASE THE FANS.
JohnItaly
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9:25am Wed 1 Sep 10
WoolNob
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2:36pm Wed 1 Sep 10
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Atpost says...
12:08pm Tue 31 Aug 10
1. I told you this was going to happen 2 weeks ago, and several aggressive mor0ns accused me of being out of touch and anti-saints.
2. I have read with great mirth the chameleon statements from the l0sers who LUVVED Pardew last week, now they agree that nickers is doing the right thing. WELL, WHICH ONE IS IT?
Ha ha ha ha
He he he he