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11:52am Wednesday 1st September 2010 in
FORMER Hull City boss Phil Brown is the first out-of-work manager to publicly throw his hat into the ring for the vacant Saints job.
Chairman Nicola Cortese has started the hunt this week for someone to replace Alan Pardew, after he was sacked on Monday.
And Brown is hoping he will receive a call from Saints chief Cortese, as he looks to make a return to management.
Speaking to the Daily Echo, the 51-year-old said: “I was very surprised on Monday morning to hear Alan Pardew had been sacked, but Southampton would be a fantastic opportunity for someone who has the ambition to get back to the Premiership, so of course I would be interested.
“I’d like to think I’ll get an opportunity to speak to Southampton and hearing what they have to say.
“Southampton were unfortunate to find themselves in League One, for whatever reason, but it is a club steeped in tremendous history and tradition.”
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ian redhill
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Triangle Jim wrote:Did brilliantly with Fulham at this level and Newcastle in Championship, from rock bottom. He'd get us playing and would no doubt continue to polish the diamond that is Rickie Lambert.
according to
http://www.oddscheck
er.com/football/foot
ball-specials/southa
mpton-specials/next-
permanent-manager
the odds are shortening on Kevin Keegan...
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JimmyLondon
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Elgy
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mbetts
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oldtimesaint
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mhay69
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deadly666
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Stevie61163
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RobJChase wrote:does that make him a hash-brown???
Brown might be ok but he made a hash of his last job according to Blair
st waggy
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shaun_inuk
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st waggy
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mhay69 wrote:Apparently the echo is back in favour at SMS, NC trying to get some positive spin on this debacle? AP was the master of his own destruction, the truth will out.
I wouldn't really want Brown, however don't think he can be slated for his managerial skills because of what he achieved with Hull. He has probably ruled himself out of the job though for talking to the Echo!!!
allsaintsnocurves
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sound ranger
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Harleysaint
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st waggy wrote:Bit of a contradiction st waggy. Whilst I agree we need to be realistic in div 1 and Brown is probably as good as it gets, don't see how you can say no point in comparing to AP and then go on to state you trust NC. NC stated he was replacing AP because he wanted to go up this year and wanted a better manager - so if you trust him you have to take that at face value and therefore we expect a better manager than AP. Either that, or we accept NC is a liar. Can't have it both ways.
Time for a reality check for some people. We are in the third tier of English football, a manager of Browns standing is as about as good as it gets at this level. No good saying AP is better than him as he is yesterdays man, gone, sacked, persona non gratis so get over it. PB's track record at motivating teams in lower leagues is good and if there is a team in L1 that needs motivating it is us. In NC we trust. COYS WIFM
Aaron1
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Footso
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allsaintsnocurves wrote:KK is a proven quitter, but his previous association with the Saints might just see him through, if things start to go against him. He could be an inspired choice.
Okay I'm throwing my hat into the Keagan camp again...he got Newcastle and Fulham promoted so has experience at this level. I think he can be the guy to guide us back up!! He would inspire the players.
Saint Madcap
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Saintade
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EAGLESAINT
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ken j
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saint t.boy
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ali dia
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EricMartin'sHat
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TheJoiners
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TakingLeTiss
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Saint Bean
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MitchellT
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Big Mac
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allsaintsnocurves wrote:Yeah, but has a tendency to walk too easily if things aren't to his liking – check back through the seats he's left empty
Okay I'm throwing my hat into the Keagan camp again...he got Newcastle and Fulham promoted so has experience at this level. I think he can be the guy to guide us back up!! He would inspire the players.
Woolston Saint
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Saint Bean
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Woolston Saint wrote:Must admit i wondered if villa had anything to do with it
Heard that AP wanted to talk to villa so NC gave him the boot,Also heard that Bryan Robson is going to be the Man!!
oldtimesaint
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Saint Bean wrote:i am sure if that was the case NC would have gone public on reasons for sacking...and doesnt explain sacking the whole management team!!
Woolston Saint wrote: Heard that AP wanted to talk to villa so NC gave him the boot,Also heard that Bryan Robson is going to be the Man!!Must admit i wondered if villa had anything to do with it
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Saintjon
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Saintjon wrote:and hes not afraid to lose now and again so no negative tactics!
Please no Bryan Robson, I would like to see King Kevin Keegan. Great motivator, former Saint and has all the experience. Plus hes done it all before and knows the score.
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Alicesdad
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gillyman
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phil of downton
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Southampton boy
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hedge end bob
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Saint Bean wrote:HI SAINT BEAN Sorry mate but your line , on the way back up to where we belong. We are were we belong today and we have no divine right to think otherwise. Were in div 3 simply because the standard of player in the past was simply not good enough to play at the higher grade of football. Dont get me wrong i would walk over red hot coals to see our club playing the highest grade of football but we are in division 3 and we really cant expect top class managers to want to come to our club. It is also my opinion that N.C. is much like RUPERT LOWE only difference is N. C. is putting money into the club instead of taking it out.So i would like us to hire someone in the BILLY DAVIS mould, cant stand the little so and so but is a master at this level.
Well i rekon either this was on the cards and planned prior to Markus passing and had to be delayed due to this with someone in the frame ready to take charge which may explain the possible resistance of AP to our new brazilian signing. Or there was a serious bun fight at the staplewood corale i find it unusual AP the coach and goalie coach all going at the same time. After all why get rid of the whole lot if theres nothing to replace them mmmmm hopefully the outcome wont be fishy. Everyone keeps carping on about how were only a league one club but a very rich one on the way back up to where we belong. We would be a very atractive proposition to any manager worth his salt, high flying or not.
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phil of downton wrote:A good thought
It seems pretty clear to me that the decision to sack AP was not a football decision but either a political or personality clash type reason. To this end the new 1st team coach (watch the title change from Manager at the press conference!) will have to meet three requirements. A personality and style acceptable to the Chairman. Credibility in football acheivements to win over the players. A willingness to commit to the long term with Southampton FC to provide the stability all fans crave for. The one name that I believe can satisfy all three is Alan Shearer. No question he is a loyal man. No question over his football credentials. Diplomatic and young enough to happily leave the moneyside to the Chairman perhaps??? Inexperienced enough to welcome the back room structure. already in place. Attracted to an apprenticeship with huge potential in both short and long term. Just a thought!!!
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Alicesdad wrote:Well said. I too liked AP but as you say we dont know the full facts. We must do what all saint fans should ,stick with it and get behind the team on sat after all they will need our support more than ever to get through this. We owe it to Markus. You can bet it wont be who we expect.
It's good to see such passion from the fans. Although many may have liked Pardew, myself included, I do not honestly think that NC acts in haste and makes rash decisions. This sacking was a long time coming and I think the criticism of NC is not based on the full facts. He was shrewd to advise the purchase of this club by the late Markus Leibherr, he was shrewd in making money available for player purchases. I also think he was shrewd in kicking out the hangers on in the Boardroom hospitality area, legends or not. All in all I think it wiser to watch NCs next moves, support the club and judge him on the remainder of the season rather than act rashly now. Don't attack him because of his business acumen, he knows what he's doing.
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phil of downton wrote:Actually, that is a cracking shout. He clearly wants to be a manager but as the Newcastle 'episode' shows he needs to learn his trade at a lower level, and there can be no better place to start than Saints - not with the set up we have in place.
It seems pretty clear to me that the decision to sack AP was not a football decision but either a political or personality clash type reason. To this end the new 1st team coach (watch the title change from Manager at the press conference!) will have to meet three requirements. A personality and style acceptable to the Chairman. Credibility in football acheivements to win over the players. A willingness to commit to the long term with Southampton FC to provide the stability all fans crave for. The one name that I believe can satisfy all three is Alan Shearer. No question he is a loyal man. No question over his football credentials. Diplomatic and young enough to happily leave the moneyside to the Chairman perhaps??? Inexperienced enough to welcome the back room structure. already in place. Attracted to an apprenticeship with huge potential in both short and long term. Just a thought!!!
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seedhouse
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Balders76
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oldtimesaint wrote:I hope that is true but I don't think it is. I don't know anything more than most but I suspect there is nothing lined up. But you never know with this guy, he plays his cards close to his chest. Again - I hope you are right and this is a plan and not just a show of power.
Brown says he would like to receive a phone call from NC....well that rules him out because I am sure whoever NC has in mind to replace AP received the call days ago!!
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JimmyLondon
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Saintjon
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JimmyLondon wrote:Makes very interesting reading, and could answer quite a few questions.
this on the bbc 606 board http://www.bbc.co.uk /dna/606/A73718436 check ot out what do we think??
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TakingLeTiss
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JimmyLondon wrote:Read something else on 606 about Pardew and co being sacked for making informal approach to Aston Villa. Perhaps people should reserve judgment on NC before truth comes out (if it does). I reckon there is more to this than meets the eye.....
this on the bbc 606 board http://www.bbc.co.uk /dna/606/A73718436 check ot out what do we think??
Chandlers Ford Saints
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Saint Bean
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Saintjon wrote:Indeed a suspected bun fight then the plot thickens
JimmyLondon wrote:Makes very interesting reading, and could answer quite a few questions.
this on the bbc 606 board http://www.bbc.co.uk /dna/606/A73718436 check ot out what do we think??
superbarrio
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Nic on the N332
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Chandlers Ford Saints
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saints til i die
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Saint Bean
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saints til i die wrote:Truly you speak like your user name and i agree although maybee not ince. A Hoddle return i agree would be good despite the history.
I seriously cannot believe some of the morons on here that have NO clue about football!!!!!!!!!!
Phil Brown is as good if not better than Alan fcuking Pardew!!
People said they don't want a yes man...well this guy is not! BUT this is the FIRST premier league experienced manager to put his name forward and it's only Wednesday afternoon!
I'm embarrassed by the behaviour of our fans this week. The lemmings last night chanting 'shove Paul Hart up your ar5e!' took the biscuit !! I knew hours before kick-off it was a wind up by Murdoch! How these muppets didn't, I can only presume they were gettin tanked up in the pub!! After all the hard work and saving our beloved Saints THIS is how you repay him! AP played rubbish football and his tactics and substitutions are awful, PLEASE GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!
All of you think you know who the best man for the job is. But none of you have a clue what you're talking about!! Martin O'neil is not gonna come here (yet), people who have something to prove and have experience in Prem and possibly exp. with a continental set-up will do well!
We need someone that's PASSIONATE !!! AP WAS NOT !!!
I'm only 26 years old but have seen a fair few managers come and go in that time. And the only time I can remember watching Saints play like 'Brazil' was with Hoddle! He has unfinished business, he works well under the radar like Cortese and has International experience! If I had to go with someone different I would prefer someone like Zola, Ince or Shearer get a chance. All are VERY passionate about football and have played at the highest level.
Time to forgive and forget. Or support the skate bastards down the road!!!!
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JimmyLondon wrote:If this is true, that would explain why NC has not made any comments because a player's wife is involved and that could be very hurtful to this "Player A".
this on the bbc 606 board
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/dna/606/A73718436
check ot out what do we think??
w1lkins822
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mhay69 wrote:this report is from the telegraph word for word and I doubt the telegraph would copy the echo
I wouldn't really want Brown, however don't think he can be slated for his managerial skills because of what he achieved with Hull. He has probably ruled himself out of the job though for talking to the Echo!!!
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DJI wrote:I have always believed that NC did not take this decision out of spite. Regardless of what any of us think of him, that would not be the actions of a sensible business man.
JimmyLondon wrote:If this is true, that would explain why NC has not made any comments because a player's wife is involved and that could be very hurtful to this "Player A".
this on the bbc 606 board
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/dna/606/A73718436
check ot out what do we think??
I am not surprised by this as it was very clear that something had happened at the Training Ground which brought about a major breach which NC was forced to settle.
Wonder if the Nationals will pick up on this and go digging?
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Southampton boy wrote:It says something about AP if the team that he built can only be promoted with him in charge - pretty poor i would think. The 606 was an interesting read sounds like he was taking tips from Burley :) Im happy with Wilkins in charge for the moment. Probs why the players played so well against Bristol if they knew AP was going. Lets get behind the whole club NC included and forget about AP and not chant his name at games.
I was at the game last night and I do nnot believe we willl get out of the division not after sacking what I believe is the only manager ablle to get us out, we have a man in "NC" who is starting to look like another "RL" at the match I hard a lot of talk about our new boy that it was "NC" who signed him and not "AP" and this is way "AP" was sacked as he did not play him on Saturday. We are now out of 2 cups and have only got the division left. I am so angry about what is happing at our club!! What is there for us now may be "NC" is a Port****** fan and he is trying to finish off this club
saints til i die
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Saint Bean wrote:Thank you.
saints til i die wrote:Truly you speak like your user name and i agree although maybee not ince. A Hoddle return i agree would be good despite the history.
I seriously cannot believe some of the morons on here that have NO clue about football!!!!!!!!!!
Phil Brown is as good if not better than Alan fcuking Pardew!!
People said they don't want a yes man...well this guy is not! BUT this is the FIRST premier league experienced manager to put his name forward and it's only Wednesday afternoon!
I'm embarrassed by the behaviour of our fans this week. The lemmings last night chanting 'shove Paul Hart up your ar5e!' took the biscuit !! I knew hours before kick-off it was a wind up by Murdoch! How these muppets didn't, I can only presume they were gettin tanked up in the pub!! After all the hard work and saving our beloved Saints THIS is how you repay him! AP played rubbish football and his tactics and substitutions are awful, PLEASE GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!
All of you think you know who the best man for the job is. But none of you have a clue what you're talking about!! Martin O'neil is not gonna come here (yet), people who have something to prove and have experience in Prem and possibly exp. with a continental set-up will do well!
We need someone that's PASSIONATE !!! AP WAS NOT !!!
I'm only 26 years old but have seen a fair few managers come and go in that time. And the only time I can remember watching Saints play like 'Brazil' was with Hoddle! He has unfinished business, he works well under the radar like Cortese and has International experience! If I had to go with someone different I would prefer someone like Zola, Ince or Shearer get a chance. All are VERY passionate about football and have played at the highest level.
Time to forgive and forget. Or support the skate bastards down the road!!!!
saints til i die
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Red n White wrote:Totally agree Red n White!!
Southampton boy wrote:It says something about AP if the team that he built can only be promoted with him in charge - pretty poor i would think. The 606 was an interesting read sounds like he was taking tips from Burley :) Im happy with Wilkins in charge for the moment. Probs why the players played so well against Bristol if they knew AP was going. Lets get behind the whole club NC included and forget about AP and not chant his name at games.
I was at the game last night and I do nnot believe we willl get out of the division not after sacking what I believe is the only manager ablle to get us out, we have a man in "NC" who is starting to look like another "RL" at the match I hard a lot of talk about our new boy that it was "NC" who signed him and not "AP" and this is way "AP" was sacked as he did not play him on Saturday. We are now out of 2 cups and have only got the division left. I am so angry about what is happing at our club!! What is there for us now may be "NC" is a Port****** fan and he is trying to finish off this club
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Red n White wrote:sorry red n white i must strongly disagree with you pathetic comment "the players played so well against Bristol Rovers because they knew AP was going" what a crock of sh1t if this was the case why did they play so poorly last night AFTER he had already gone.
Southampton boy wrote: I was at the game last night and I do nnot believe we willl get out of the division not after sacking what I believe is the only manager ablle to get us out, we have a man in "NC" who is starting to look like another "RL" at the match I hard a lot of talk about our new boy that it was "NC" who signed him and not "AP" and this is way "AP" was sacked as he did not play him on Saturday. We are now out of 2 cups and have only got the division left. I am so angry about what is happing at our club!! What is there for us now may be "NC" is a Port****** fan and he is trying to finish off this clubIt says something about AP if the team that he built can only be promoted with him in charge - pretty poor i would think. The 606 was an interesting read sounds like he was taking tips from Burley :) Im happy with Wilkins in charge for the moment. Probs why the players played so well against Bristol if they knew AP was going. Lets get behind the whole club NC included and forget about AP and not chant his name at games.
mbetts
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jwcl
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st.athan saint
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Saintade wrote:A bit rubbish ? He must have got better then!
PB would fall out with NC after about 5 minutes according to my mate who is from Hull (now a Saint living down here). His brother is a season ticket holder at Hull and says he is not the man for us...a bit rubbish really.
Stevie the saint
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3:35pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford
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3:36pm Wed 1 Sep 10
didicoy wrote:Very interesting, although it could almost have been written by Nicola himself judging by the positive light it puts him in. But either way, it's a version of events which suggests Nicola could have been 100% right in his actions, so let's all lay off him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk /dna/606/A73723755
Saintjon
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Stevie the saint wrote:I think the article has become a bit too hot to handle!
what was in the BBC 606 article, its not there any more!
OSPREYSAINT
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saints til i die wrote:Absolutely, Well at least we seem to have calmed down a bit, I somehow am not too worried about who it is now, as long as they want the job for what it is, think that they can carry it through, and can build a decent rapport which will motivate the team to play to their proper potential, and has more than Plan A in their armoury, once more we could be in for exciting times, providing the choice is the right one, keep the faith.
Saint Bean wrote:Thank you. I never really thought about Ince, but I watched 'Goals On Sunday' just gone and I was sold! The way he came across and handled himself was terrific and the man knows a lot about his football and how he wants the game played. If someone were to give him financial backing i'm sure in the future he will be right up there with the best. At the end of the day, I just want to be able to enjoy watching good football. I'll support whoever comes in, as long as we keep moving forward!saints til i die wrote: I seriously cannot believe some of the morons on here that have NO clue about football!!!!!!!!!! Phil Brown is as good if not better than Alan fcuking Pardew!! People said they don't want a yes man...well this guy is not! BUT this is the FIRST premier league experienced manager to put his name forward and it's only Wednesday afternoon! I'm embarrassed by the behaviour of our fans this week. The lemmings last night chanting 'shove Paul Hart up your ar5e!' took the biscuit !! I knew hours before kick-off it was a wind up by Murdoch! How these muppets didn't, I can only presume they were gettin tanked up in the pub!! After all the hard work and saving our beloved Saints THIS is how you repay him! AP played rubbish football and his tactics and substitutions are awful, PLEASE GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! All of you think you know who the best man for the job is. But none of you have a clue what you're talking about!! Martin O'neil is not gonna come here (yet), people who have something to prove and have experience in Prem and possibly exp. with a continental set-up will do well! We need someone that's PASSIONATE !!! AP WAS NOT !!! I'm only 26 years old but have seen a fair few managers come and go in that time. And the only time I can remember watching Saints play like 'Brazil' was with Hoddle! He has unfinished business, he works well under the radar like Cortese and has International experience! If I had to go with someone different I would prefer someone like Zola, Ince or Shearer get a chance. All are VERY passionate about football and have played at the highest level. Time to forgive and forget. Or support the skate bastards down the road!!!!Truly you speak like your user name and i agree although maybee not ince. A Hoddle return i agree would be good despite the history.
Footso
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3:48pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Stevie61163 wrote:There must be a good explanation for the massive difference between Saturday's performance and last night. Admittedly the Gas have had their problems, and Swindon were our bug-bear team last season, but is that enough to account for a 7 goal difference? I wonder whether we will ever know the truth. NC had better have a very good reason or a very good "masterplan" (or both).
Red n White wrote:sorry red n white i must strongly disagree with you pathetic comment "the players played so well against Bristol Rovers because they knew AP was going" what a crock of sh1t if this was the case why did they play so poorly last night AFTER he had already gone.
Southampton boy wrote: I was at the game last night and I do nnot believe we willl get out of the division not after sacking what I believe is the only manager ablle to get us out, we have a man in "NC" who is starting to look like another "RL" at the match I hard a lot of talk about our new boy that it was "NC" who signed him and not "AP" and this is way "AP" was sacked as he did not play him on Saturday. We are now out of 2 cups and have only got the division left. I am so angry about what is happing at our club!! What is there for us now may be "NC" is a Port****** fan and he is trying to finish off this clubIt says something about AP if the team that he built can only be promoted with him in charge - pretty poor i would think. The 606 was an interesting read sounds like he was taking tips from Burley :) Im happy with Wilkins in charge for the moment. Probs why the players played so well against Bristol if they knew AP was going. Lets get behind the whole club NC included and forget about AP and not chant his name at games.
St Retford
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stjimmy76
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Footso
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JimmyLondon
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3:57pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:exactley, i am sure there is more to this than meets the eye and that Pardew did do something. NC is miticulous in his planning and execution, had AP's sacking been planned tehre would eb someone else as manager by now, i think that NC acted on instinct and in the short time he had when this came to light
Just had a terrible thought: imagine if everything in JimmyLondon's post is true. How bad would those shouting abuse at him feel? Especially after the loss of his friend and mentor? :(
Enrico Palazzo
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3:58pm Wed 1 Sep 10
JimmyLondon
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Saint Bean
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JimmyLondon wrote:Lucky i copied most of it in here then
All threads in relation to what i cut and pasted form the BBC 606 site have now been removed!!!!!
St Retford
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4:03pm Wed 1 Sep 10
wayborn wrote:If we were in the Premier League then I expect the tabloids would be bang on it, but I don't think we'll be of that much interest to them, which is unfortunate as this story being confirmed would galvanise support behind Nicola at a time the club needs it. And the tabs will probably not go to too much trouble to find out something that makes Nicola look good, following the whole Picture-gate incident.
If the info in this post is true then Mr Cortese had no choice and I wholeheartedly offer my apologies for questioning your sanity! I have heard the rumours about Pardew's womanising else where, maybe we will never know the truth but something tells me something will appear in the tabloids sometime soon.
Rowester
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4:04pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saints til i die
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St Retford wrote:The only way is to pack out our next home game and show our true love for him and our club!
Just had a terrible thought: imagine if everything in JimmyLondon's post is true. How bad would those shouting abuse at him feel? Especially after the loss of his friend and mentor?
:(
Footso
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4:05pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Footso wrote:I know the Echo site must be working overtime at the moment, but there's no need for it to duplicate me!
There must be a good explanation for the massive difference between Saturday's performance and last night. Admittedly the Gas have had their problems, and Swindon were our bug-bear team last season, but is that enough to account for a 7 goal difference? I wonder whether we will ever know the truth. NC had better have a very good reason or a very good "masterplan" (or both).
swesaint
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4:07pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Tank Johnson wrote:wow, what an ignorant comment. How will we be set back years no matter who he appoints? We still have the best squad in the league and should get promoted with anyone at the helm.
still in shock.....everytime you think this nightmare is over something worse happens...this is the worse thing that could of happened...NC has no clue about english football ...might as well gear up for conference football,this will set us back years no matter who he appoints
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Saint Bean wrote:I already copied it Saint Bean about 10 mins before your post, great minds think alike!
JimmyLondon wrote: All threads in relation to what i cut and pasted form the BBC 606 site have now been removed!!!!!Lucky i copied most of it in here then
St Retford
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4:08pm Wed 1 Sep 10
JimmyLondon wrote:Innit. The poor bloke's mate dies and then he has to deal with an absolute shitstorm on the training ground in which he's totally in the right, and yet he gets nothing but abuse from the fans. He must be wondering why he bothers...
St Retford wrote: Just had a terrible thought: imagine if everything in JimmyLondon's post is true. How bad would those shouting abuse at him feel? Especially after the loss of his friend and mentor? :(exactley, i am sure there is more to this than meets the eye and that Pardew did do something. NC is miticulous in his planning and execution, had AP's sacking been planned tehre would eb someone else as manager by now, i think that NC acted on instinct and in the short time he had when this came to light
Saint Bean
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4:09pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saints til i die
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4:09pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Rowester wrote:lol! :-)
Made his feelings public.......count him out
oldtimesaint
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Rowester
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SaintInYorkshire
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St Retford
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St dai
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4:21pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saint Bean wrote:agree about you feeling ashamed, poor excuse for human biengs in the northam last night.
saints til i die wrote: I seriously cannot believe some of the morons on here that have NO clue about football!!!!!!!!!! Phil Brown is as good if not better than Alan fcuking Pardew!! People said they don't want a yes man...well this guy is not! BUT this is the FIRST premier league experienced manager to put his name forward and it's only Wednesday afternoon! I'm embarrassed by the behaviour of our fans this week. The lemmings last night chanting 'shove Paul Hart up your ar5e!' took the biscuit !! I knew hours before kick-off it was a wind up by Murdoch! How these muppets didn't, I can only presume they were gettin tanked up in the pub!! After all the hard work and saving our beloved Saints THIS is how you repay him! AP played rubbish football and his tactics and substitutions are awful, PLEASE GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! All of you think you know who the best man for the job is. But none of you have a clue what you're talking about!! Martin O'neil is not gonna come here (yet), people who have something to prove and have experience in Prem and possibly exp. with a continental set-up will do well! We need someone that's PASSIONATE !!! AP WAS NOT !!! I'm only 26 years old but have seen a fair few managers come and go in that time. And the only time I can remember watching Saints play like 'Brazil' was with Hoddle! He has unfinished business, he works well under the radar like Cortese and has International experience! If I had to go with someone different I would prefer someone like Zola, Ince or Shearer get a chance. All are VERY passionate about football and have played at the highest level. Time to forgive and forget. Or support the skate bastards down the road!!!!Truly you speak like your user name and i agree although maybee not ince. A Hoddle return i agree would be good despite the history.
Bungy53
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4:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
PGA-
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oldtimesaint
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4:26pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:quite right St Retford....but if its not true the court case established that its not just the BBC and ECho but they have to disclose the identity of the poster as well!!
O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.
Jannersaint
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4:30pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Andyt66
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4:31pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford
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4:35pm Wed 1 Sep 10
oldtimesaint wrote:I think I'd agree with the ruling. It shouldn't just be the newspapers who face libel action if someone is making up malicious rumours and posting them online. Obviously, it'll still be the newspapers that get sued because they have more money, but posters should be held accountable for what they say.
St Retford wrote: O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.quite right St Retford....but if its not true the court case established that its not just the BBC and ECho but they have to disclose the identity of the poster as well!!
slugger
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4:37pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford
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4:38pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jannersaint wrote:I vote for this option, please Nicola. He's like an English Arsene Wenger.
Mowbray please. Played the best football I have seen for years with WBA.
St dai
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4:41pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:patience my young jedi. the force is strong with this one.
so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !
ben dover
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4:42pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Give Peas a Chance
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4:42pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:Interesting that htis should surface the day after fans show their support for AP. It's almost as if someone wants to harm his reputation.
oldtimesaint wrote:I think I'd agree with the ruling. It shouldn't just be the newspapers who face libel action if someone is making up malicious rumours and posting them online. Obviously, it'll still be the newspapers that get sued because they have more money, but posters should be held accountable for what they say.St Retford wrote: O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.quite right St Retford....but if its not true the court case established that its not just the BBC and ECho but they have to disclose the identity of the poster as well!!
OSPREYSAINT
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4:44pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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4:44pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai wrote:perceptive so you are.
slugger wrote: so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !patience my young jedi. the force is strong with this one.
Stevie61163
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4:45pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:Slugs......why feel ashamed??? being ill informed is not a crime.......why anyone woud boo or jeer one of our own god only knows......i thought there was a reason that we are called supporters.
so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !
Jasper7
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4:50pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai
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4:52pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Stevie61163 wrote:ahh with wisdom comes great understanding me thinks,
slugger wrote: so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !Slugs......why feel ashamed??? being ill informed is not a crime.......why anyone woud boo or jeer one of our own god only knows......i thought there was a reason that we are called supporters.
slugger
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4:53pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Stevie61163 wrote:fair comment but.........the trouble with some is that they make knee-jerk assumptions (which i'm positive nicola wouldn't),think about it....why would a very successfull businessman jepordise his baby without good reason ?.....the second part of your post i agree with 100%
slugger wrote: so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !Slugs......why feel ashamed??? being ill informed is not a crime.......why anyone woud boo or jeer one of our own god only knows......i thought there was a reason that we are called supporters.
St Retford
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4:57pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Give Peas a Chance wrote:Absolutely - we should take it with a massive pinch of salt and it's a pretty basic PR trick to post things on forums in order to sway opinion. But it does mean that there's a possible version of events in which Nicola has acted completely in the right and that vilification of him is unfair. Until we find out what happened (and we may never) then it's wrong to think ill of him over the Pards sacking.
St Retford wrote:Interesting that htis should surface the day after fans show their support for AP. It's almost as if someone wants to harm his reputation.oldtimesaint wrote:I think I'd agree with the ruling. It shouldn't just be the newspapers who face libel action if someone is making up malicious rumours and posting them online. Obviously, it'll still be the newspapers that get sued because they have more money, but posters should be held accountable for what they say.St Retford wrote: O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.quite right St Retford....but if its not true the court case established that its not just the BBC and ECho but they have to disclose the identity of the poster as well!!
St dai
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4:58pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:correct again.
Stevie61163 wrote:fair comment but.........the trouble with some is that they make knee-jerk assumptions (which i'm positive nicola wouldn't),think about it....why would a very successfull businessman jepordise his baby without good reason ?.....the second part of your post i agree with 100%slugger wrote: so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !Slugs......why feel ashamed??? being ill informed is not a crime.......why anyone woud boo or jeer one of our own god only knows......i thought there was a reason that we are called supporters.
St Retford
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5:00pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jasper7 wrote:Yes, and there is a secret conspiracy of lizards running the world, the moon landings were faked and George Bush was behind 9/11.
A bunch of foreign scammers come to a company which has quick cashflow and lots of legitimate reasons to do badly, AND YOU THINK THEY ARE HERE COZ THEY LOVE FOOTBALL??? Ha ha ha ha ha
nicola cortese is god
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5:01pm Wed 1 Sep 10
nicola cortese is god
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5:01pm Wed 1 Sep 10
sound ranger
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5:02pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai
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5:04pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:so nicola must be from atlantis then,
Jasper7 wrote: A bunch of foreign scammers come to a company which has quick cashflow and lots of legitimate reasons to do badly, AND YOU THINK THEY ARE HERE COZ THEY LOVE FOOTBALL??? Ha ha ha ha haYes, and there is a secret conspiracy of lizards running the world, the moon landings were faked and George Bush was behind 9/11.
7ses
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5:06pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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5:07pm Wed 1 Sep 10
sound ranger wrote:hello again.....the files in your computer must be bulging at the seems ! why the intrest ?
From the Echo 28 march 2010 Alan Pardew says Saints’ Johnstone’s Paint Trophy win allows him to look Nicola Coreste in the eye and insist that his two-year challenge to get the team promoted to the Championship is very much on. There has been a lot of speculation over Pardew’s relationship with Cortese after the executive chairman released a statement to say the priority this season is to reach play-offs, even given a minus ten start, with the cups merely a nice bonus. When asked whether he felt the 4-1 win over Carlisle at Wembley would buy him more time in the job Pardew said: “I don’t think it’s about buying time, I really haven’t thought about that. “There’s been a lot of speculation about what the acting chief executive has said and some of the pressure he’s put on us and I have to accept that. “It was important we won this so I can look him in the eye and say ‘we’ve won this."
slugger
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5:11pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai wrote:* good you're god ;o)
slugger wrote:correct again. God your goodStevie61163 wrote:fair comment but.........the trouble with some is that they make knee-jerk assumptions (which i'm positive nicola wouldn't),think about it....why would a very successfull businessman jepordise his baby without good reason ?.....the second part of your post i agree with 100%slugger wrote: so.........the plot thickens !......i'm positve nicola acted in the best intrests of the club (why wouldn't he ?) to those that booed and jeered,you should feel ashamed !Slugs......why feel ashamed??? being ill informed is not a crime.......why anyone woud boo or jeer one of our own god only knows......i thought there was a reason that we are called supporters.
sound ranger
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5:11pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Rowester
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5:12pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jannersaint wrote:Totally agree, would be a very good manager,English & would def have the respect from the players..However I do think that NC has his own man & i think that man could be Zola. Would also say that whoever comes in must bring in some loan players,we do not have enough depth in our squad.I think that as Phil Brown has 'Thrown his name in the hat ' & gone public he will not be coming.NC will does not do public so count Mr Brown out.
Mowbray please. Played the best football I have seen for years with WBA.
slugger
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5:17pm Wed 1 Sep 10
sound ranger wrote:it's like an armrest but you rest your int on it..............dumb
Whats an intrest?
St dai
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5:18pm Wed 1 Sep 10
cjm1966
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bloke from bitterene park
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St dai
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5:23pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:it`s when you sound out opinion.....?
sound ranger wrote: Whats an intrest?it's like an armrest but you rest your int on it..............dumb o !
Nic on the N332
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5:28pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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5:28pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai wrote:wise words so they are.i'm in !
do not be swayed from your path young slugger. the dark side will understand soon. May the force be with us . where are we going ,i don`t know when will we get there ain`t certain. all i know is i am on my way. got a dream boys got a song. Paint your wagons and come along.
lowe hater, cornwall
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5:31pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint
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5:38pm Wed 1 Sep 10
CMT
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5:39pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai
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5:40pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:mmmm, would do the job, but getting now would be hard for him, giving our chairmans dislike of doing buisnes in thepublic eye.
St dai wrote: do not be swayed from your path young slugger. the dark side will understand soon. May the force be with us . where are we going ,i don`t know when will we get there ain`t certain. all i know is i am on my way. got a dream boys got a song. Paint your wagons and come along.wise words so they are.i'm in ! we've got strong leadership and financial backing,no debt and a bright future. patience my friends and we'll reach the promised land ! for the record....i think phill brown could do a good job for us but going public smacks of desparation and that will probably rule him out.
Harleysaint
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5:43pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:What !!!...so if I go up to a bird and ask for a shag I've got no chance??..Think about it!...;-)))
St dai wrote: do not be swayed from your path young slugger. the dark side will understand soon. May the force be with us . where are we going ,i don`t know when will we get there ain`t certain. all i know is i am on my way. got a dream boys got a song. Paint your wagons and come along.wise words so they are.i'm in ! we've got strong leadership and financial backing,no debt and a bright future. patience my friends and we'll reach the promised land ! for the record....i think phill brown could do a good job for us but going public smacks of desparation and that will probably rule him out.
tennisaint
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5:44pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St dai
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5:45pm Wed 1 Sep 10
wraggster
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DJI
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5:47pm Wed 1 Sep 10
CMT wrote:CMT - if you think about it and this story is true, do you really think NC is going to broadcast it when it could cause further harm and humiliation to one of his Senior players? The Statement they put out hinted that there had been unrest in the Training Camp and due to this, AP and his close allies were no longer employed by SFC.
If, and I do mean IF there is foundation to the speculation regarding AP's departure I will be the first to put my hand up and apologise to NC, especially after mailing my disapproval to Sky Sports and Saints websites. However, much of the outcry could have been avoided if NC had provided an explanation for the dismissal. There would be no need to go into extreme detail but at least something so that the fans can form their opinions armed with more than a general Club statement. I feel that NC can be his own worst enemy at times by not imparting information to the supporters. As I said to a friend yesterday, "no explanation = speculation"...and lots of it!!
oldtimesaint
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5:49pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint
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5:51pm Wed 1 Sep 10
DJI wrote:Should be on Facebook!!....I would have clicked the "LIKE" button..:-)
CMT wrote: If, and I do mean IF there is foundation to the speculation regarding AP's departure I will be the first to put my hand up and apologise to NC, especially after mailing my disapproval to Sky Sports and Saints websites. However, much of the outcry could have been avoided if NC had provided an explanation for the dismissal. There would be no need to go into extreme detail but at least something so that the fans can form their opinions armed with more than a general Club statement. I feel that NC can be his own worst enemy at times by not imparting information to the supporters. As I said to a friend yesterday, "no explanation = speculation"...and lots of it!!CMT - if you think about it and this story is true, do you really think NC is going to broadcast it when it could cause further harm and humiliation to one of his Senior players? The Statement they put out hinted that there had been unrest in the Training Camp and due to this, AP and his close allies were no longer employed by SFC. Clearly Nicola has no intention of speaking the truth for the protection of his players and the Club; "You don't air dirty linen in public"! We would all like to know the truth but (if this story has any legs at all) we should trust the Chairman and give him the benefit of the doubt. He now has a very awkward task of getting in a new Manager whilst taking a great deal of stick from the fans, and for deciding that something that happened inside the Camp should stay there for the sake of all involved.
Saintjon
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5:55pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:lol, very good :)
DJI wrote:Should be on Facebook!!....I would have clicked the "LIKE" button..:-)CMT wrote: If, and I do mean IF there is foundation to the speculation regarding AP's departure I will be the first to put my hand up and apologise to NC, especially after mailing my disapproval to Sky Sports and Saints websites. However, much of the outcry could have been avoided if NC had provided an explanation for the dismissal. There would be no need to go into extreme detail but at least something so that the fans can form their opinions armed with more than a general Club statement. I feel that NC can be his own worst enemy at times by not imparting information to the supporters. As I said to a friend yesterday, "no explanation = speculation"...and lots of it!!CMT - if you think about it and this story is true, do you really think NC is going to broadcast it when it could cause further harm and humiliation to one of his Senior players? The Statement they put out hinted that there had been unrest in the Training Camp and due to this, AP and his close allies were no longer employed by SFC. Clearly Nicola has no intention of speaking the truth for the protection of his players and the Club; "You don't air dirty linen in public"! We would all like to know the truth but (if this story has any legs at all) we should trust the Chairman and give him the benefit of the doubt. He now has a very awkward task of getting in a new Manager whilst taking a great deal of stick from the fans, and for deciding that something that happened inside the Camp should stay there for the sake of all involved.
CMT
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6:00pm Wed 1 Sep 10
DJI wrote:Agreed but as I said in my post, something could have been released.... perhaps along the lines of "...gross breach of Club rules/misconduct etc". That way the supporters (who will still obviously speculate what the breach was) will know the actual decision for the dismissal. That way, there is no public airing of the dirty laundry and if AP does not make a statement to counter any specific allegations, we at least know his sacking was justified.
CMT wrote:CMT - if you think about it and this story is true, do you really think NC is going to broadcast it when it could cause further harm and humiliation to one of his Senior players? The Statement they put out hinted that there had been unrest in the Training Camp and due to this, AP and his close allies were no longer employed by SFC.
If, and I do mean IF there is foundation to the speculation regarding AP's departure I will be the first to put my hand up and apologise to NC, especially after mailing my disapproval to Sky Sports and Saints websites. However, much of the outcry could have been avoided if NC had provided an explanation for the dismissal. There would be no need to go into extreme detail but at least something so that the fans can form their opinions armed with more than a general Club statement. I feel that NC can be his own worst enemy at times by not imparting information to the supporters. As I said to a friend yesterday, "no explanation = speculation"...and lots of it!!
Clearly Nicola has no intention of speaking the truth for the protection of his players and the Club; "You don't air dirty linen in public"! We would all like to know the truth but (if this story has any legs at all) we should trust the Chairman and give him the benefit of the doubt. He now has a very awkward task of getting in a new Manager whilst taking a great deal of stick from the fans, and for deciding that something that happened inside the Camp should stay there for the sake of all involved.
ludacris..
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6:05pm Wed 1 Sep 10
DJI
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6:07pm Wed 1 Sep 10
CMT wrote:Fair point CMT but we don't know the conditions of the Contract or any severance agreement they might have made which might have stated "We go public if you pursue severance pay"? I suspect that something like this will leak out eventually and perhaps it coming out today in the way it did might well have been part of the plan to get the fans the truth without publicly admitting to it?
DJI wrote:Agreed but as I said in my post, something could have been released.... perhaps along the lines of "...gross breach of Club rules/misconduct etc". That way the supporters (who will still obviously speculate what the breach was) will know the actual decision for the dismissal. That way, there is no public airing of the dirty laundry and if AP does not make a statement to counter any specific allegations, we at least know his sacking was justified.
CMT wrote:CMT - if you think about it and this story is true, do you really think NC is going to broadcast it when it could cause further harm and humiliation to one of his Senior players? The Statement they put out hinted that there had been unrest in the Training Camp and due to this, AP and his close allies were no longer employed by SFC.
If, and I do mean IF there is foundation to the speculation regarding AP's departure I will be the first to put my hand up and apologise to NC, especially after mailing my disapproval to Sky Sports and Saints websites. However, much of the outcry could have been avoided if NC had provided an explanation for the dismissal. There would be no need to go into extreme detail but at least something so that the fans can form their opinions armed with more than a general Club statement. I feel that NC can be his own worst enemy at times by not imparting information to the supporters. As I said to a friend yesterday, "no explanation = speculation"...and lots of it!!
Clearly Nicola has no intention of speaking the truth for the protection of his players and the Club; "You don't air dirty linen in public"! We would all like to know the truth but (if this story has any legs at all) we should trust the Chairman and give him the benefit of the doubt. He now has a very awkward task of getting in a new Manager whilst taking a great deal of stick from the fans, and for deciding that something that happened inside the Camp should stay there for the sake of all involved.
st.athan saint
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6:12pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Chandlers Ford Saints wrote:Frani coach ? careful I sometimes sit in row kk!!!
Personally, I'd only be happy if we got Keegan or Curbishley. O' Neill is out of the question... Shearer and Le Tiss would be an awesome duo, with Benali and Dodd as first team coaches. Apart from that, I'm not too bothered but I'd give almost anyone a chance, except from Paul Hart. Or best option, BRING BACK PARDEW! As the team is mainly his choice of players.
Harleysaint
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6:14pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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6:18pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:......iv'e thought about it.........and i think my comment stands up !!!!!
slugger wrote:What !!!...so if I go up to a bird and ask for a shag I've got no chance??..Think about it!...;-)))St dai wrote: do not be swayed from your path young slugger. the dark side will understand soon. May the force be with us . where are we going ,i don`t know when will we get there ain`t certain. all i know is i am on my way. got a dream boys got a song. Paint your wagons and come along.wise words so they are.i'm in ! we've got strong leadership and financial backing,no debt and a bright future. patience my friends and we'll reach the promised land ! for the record....i think phill brown could do a good job for us but going public smacks of desparation and that will probably rule him out.
saintkenny
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6:18pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saintjak wrote:no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
ummm... no.
Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO.
If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager.
Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!!
Nope.
Hoodle to take us to the premier league.
Harleysaint
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6:22pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:Just coz you were never a "Toyboy"back in the day,and lets face it you have so missed the boat,is no good reason to have a Pop at me!!....Plumbers!!?.
Harleysaint wrote:......iv'e thought about it.........and i think my comment stands up !!!!! lol...you said it mate.slugger wrote:What !!!...so if I go up to a bird and ask for a shag I've got no chance??..Think about it!...;-)))St dai wrote: do not be swayed from your path young slugger. the dark side will understand soon. May the force be with us . where are we going ,i don`t know when will we get there ain`t certain. all i know is i am on my way. got a dream boys got a song. Paint your wagons and come along.wise words so they are.i'm in ! we've got strong leadership and financial backing,no debt and a bright future. patience my friends and we'll reach the promised land ! for the record....i think phill brown could do a good job for us but going public smacks of desparation and that will probably rule him out.
Saint
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6:23pm Wed 1 Sep 10
OSPREYSAINT
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6:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jasper7 wrote:Any legal eagles out there know if this has any legal/libel connotations, I am all for freedom of speech, but this is sailing close to the wind for my liking.
A bunch of foreign scammers come to a company which has quick cashflow and lots of legitimate reasons to do badly, AND YOU THINK THEY ARE HERE COZ THEY LOVE FOOTBALL??? Ha ha ha ha ha
slugger
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6:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:it's a closely guarded secret.....all i'll say is that some bloke came up to me in minehead and said "nice shirt mate"...............
Never a dull moment....Why was I born where I was?...Why do I love SFC?....Its a birthright....Please let this end well as at my age the Roller Coaster bcomes more difficult to cope. I do believe that my support and sympathies will always lie with the man at the top as he is the only person who is in posession of all the facts.I will just add,for the purposs of keeping the pot boiling..Where did Slugger go for his holiday???
Nic on the N332
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6:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.
saintjak wrote:no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
ummm... no.
Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO.
If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager.
Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!!
Nope.
Hoodle to take us to the premier league.
Harleysaint
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6:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:At your age you should stop borrowing Bills cloathes!!!
Harleysaint wrote: Never a dull moment....Why was I born where I was?...Why do I love SFC?....Its a birthright....Please let this end well as at my age the Roller Coaster bcomes more difficult to cope. I do believe that my support and sympathies will always lie with the man at the top as he is the only person who is in posession of all the facts.I will just add,for the purposs of keeping the pot boiling..Where did Slugger go for his holiday???it's a closely guarded secret.....all i'll say is that some bloke came up to me in minehead and said "nice shirt mate"............... ......DOH !!!!!
Saintjon
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6:35pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.
saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
ali dia
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6:38pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint
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6:39pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:Maybe the south coast Derby should be our next encounter?...2 Giants locked in Mortal Embrace...That should kick start the season!...Always thought that Bournemouth and Boscombe had more Seagulls than Brighton?..Hey Ho..;-))...Only good for Pooing whichever way you look at it!..;-))) COYRAW(NO MANAGER MACHINE)!!!!
slugger wrote:At your age you should stop borrowing Bills cloathes!!!Harleysaint wrote: Never a dull moment....Why was I born where I was?...Why do I love SFC?....Its a birthright....Please let this end well as at my age the Roller Coaster bcomes more difficult to cope. I do believe that my support and sympathies will always lie with the man at the top as he is the only person who is in posession of all the facts.I will just add,for the purposs of keeping the pot boiling..Where did Slugger go for his holiday???it's a closely guarded secret.....all i'll say is that some bloke came up to me in minehead and said "nice shirt mate"............... ......DOH !!!!!
oldtimesaint
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6:40pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saint wrote:they have Howe at 2/3 and Shearer at 7/.....http://www.sk
Sky bet have Alan Shearer as 5/2 favourite to be named Saints boss.
Harleysaint
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6:43pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
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6:45pm Wed 1 Sep 10
oldtimesaint wrote:Lol , do you remember last summer when we were all speculating about who would be the next manager? Then came Alan Pardew, a complete bolt out of the blue. No paper talk or gossip. I have the funny feeling its gonna happen again.
Saint wrote: Sky bet have Alan Shearer as 5/2 favourite to be named Saints boss.they have Howe at 2/3 and Shearer at 7/.....http://www.sk ybet.com/betting/foo tball/manager-specia ls/t10002896.html
saints til i die
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6:46pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Nic on the N332 wrote:LMFAO!!!!!
saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.
saintjak wrote:no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
ummm... no.
Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO.
If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager.
Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!!
Nope.
Hoodle to take us to the premier league.
Harleysaint
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6:49pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)
Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
Legend Saint
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6:50pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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6:54pm Wed 1 Sep 10
oldtimesaint
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6:54pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Legend Saint wrote:very good point...lets stop worrying about a new manager or the poor start to the season and put all our efforts in sorting out a fringe player!!!!
Please can someone get to the bottom of the issue surounding Anthony Pulis. Says on the o/s that he was signed on the 29 August 2008 on a two year contract. Why is he still here!!!! Got to be the worst player we have ever had. Joke!
Saints1980
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6:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jannersaint
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7:00pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:Off the top of my head, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Gardiola, Clough, Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle, Dunga, Strachan, O'Neill....depends on what you define as great I suppose but one of them might help. I'm a less experienced 35 year old (being a smartars..sorry!)
Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
slugger
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7:02pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saints1980 wrote:on what basis do you say it's rubbish ?
Just cannot believe a lot of you guys have fallen for this rubbish about Pardew. Somebody is clearly trying to taint Pardew's image so everyone starts kissing Cortese's a**e again. I thank Cortese for saving the club along with Saint Markus but I really do fear for Saints under Nicola's leadership. We are making lots of enemies which will only hinder our progress in the long term. Pardew was best boss we've had in a while and we were really kicking on after saturday. The players I believe are a bit shell-shocked so we need to appoint the new man fairly soon and rescue our promotion bid. We must not panic but I'm so frustrated that we are in this situation again. Seeing as the new boss will not be able to make any signings (although possibly loans) I think we need a real motivator to gee the players up and really kick on again. We could have a large points deficit (again) to overcome if we leave it too long. Top teams are looking strong already. Badly need to be up for it and support the team for 3 points on sat or the rot will really set in. Come on Saints, get it right this whole saga can be put to rest if we're challenging near the top in 10 games time. Up the Saints...
franiow
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7:06pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
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7:06pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jannersaint wrote:Dont forget Big Ron Atkinson! Apparently he had a really good throw :)
Harleysaint wrote:Off the top of my head, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Gardiola, Clough, Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle, Dunga, Strachan, O'Neill....depends on what you define as great I suppose but one of them might help. I'm a less experienced 35 year old (being a smartars..sorry!)Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
Harleysaint
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7:17pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:Yeah!!...OK..BUT!...
Jannersaint wrote:Dont forget Big Ron Atkinson! Apparently he had a really good throw :)Harleysaint wrote:Off the top of my head, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Gardiola, Clough, Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle, Dunga, Strachan, O'Neill....depends on what you define as great I suppose but one of them might help. I'm a less experienced 35 year old (being a smartars..sorry!)Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
Baddesley Bill
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7:22pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
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7:23pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:oh.....and dont forget the wine Reg :)
Saintjon wrote:Yeah!!...OK..BUT!... Apart from a couple of those!!(OK)...Which player ever went on to become just an average manager??..HaHa..got you you young Smartass!!(;-))..)Jannersaint wrote:Dont forget Big Ron Atkinson! Apparently he had a really good throw :)Harleysaint wrote:Off the top of my head, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Gardiola, Clough, Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle, Dunga, Strachan, O'Neill....depends on what you define as great I suppose but one of them might help. I'm a less experienced 35 year old (being a smartars..sorry!)Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
Harleysaint
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7:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:On what basis do you say "It wont Leak"(check the spelling correction)
Saints1980 wrote: Just cannot believe a lot of you guys have fallen for this rubbish about Pardew. Somebody is clearly trying to taint Pardew's image so everyone starts kissing Cortese's a**e again. I thank Cortese for saving the club along with Saint Markus but I really do fear for Saints under Nicola's leadership. We are making lots of enemies which will only hinder our progress in the long term. Pardew was best boss we've had in a while and we were really kicking on after saturday. The players I believe are a bit shell-shocked so we need to appoint the new man fairly soon and rescue our promotion bid. We must not panic but I'm so frustrated that we are in this situation again. Seeing as the new boss will not be able to make any signings (although possibly loans) I think we need a real motivator to gee the players up and really kick on again. We could have a large points deficit (again) to overcome if we leave it too long. Top teams are looking strong already. Badly need to be up for it and support the team for 3 points on sat or the rot will really set in. Come on Saints, get it right this whole saga can be put to rest if we're challenging near the top in 10 games time. Up the Saints...on what basis do you say it's rubbish ?
slugger
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7:26pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saints1980
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7:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:On what basis do we know that there is any truth to it?! We do not know anything so we should probably not even comment on stories like this. It just seems very fabricated to me and funny that it's after last nights game when the fans were singing Pardews name. I'm just so frustrated that Pardew and our 'Stability' is gone. Suppose I need to get over it and move on but it's just even more annoying with the names being bandied about, the good ones we will never get- O'neill etc. I hope Nicola pulls something out of the hat to get the feel-good factor back......
Saints1980 wrote: Just cannot believe a lot of you guys have fallen for this rubbish about Pardew. Somebody is clearly trying to taint Pardew's image so everyone starts kissing Cortese's a**e again. I thank Cortese for saving the club along with Saint Markus but I really do fear for Saints under Nicola's leadership. We are making lots of enemies which will only hinder our progress in the long term. Pardew was best boss we've had in a while and we were really kicking on after saturday. The players I believe are a bit shell-shocked so we need to appoint the new man fairly soon and rescue our promotion bid. We must not panic but I'm so frustrated that we are in this situation again. Seeing as the new boss will not be able to make any signings (although possibly loans) I think we need a real motivator to gee the players up and really kick on again. We could have a large points deficit (again) to overcome if we leave it too long. Top teams are looking strong already. Badly need to be up for it and support the team for 3 points on sat or the rot will really set in. Come on Saints, get it right this whole saga can be put to rest if we're challenging near the top in 10 games time. Up the Saints...on what basis do you say it's rubbish ?
Harleysaint
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7:29pm Wed 1 Sep 10
nicola cortese is god
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7:34pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Jannersaint
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7:35pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:What have the Romans ever done for us right Harley ;-)
Saintjon wrote:Yeah!!...OK..BUT!... Apart from a couple of those!!(OK)...Which player ever went on to become just an average manager??..HaHa..got you you young Smartass!!(;-))..)Jannersaint wrote:Dont forget Big Ron Atkinson! Apparently he had a really good throw :)Harleysaint wrote:Off the top of my head, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Gardiola, Clough, Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle, Dunga, Strachan, O'Neill....depends on what you define as great I suppose but one of them might help. I'm a less experienced 35 year old (being a smartars..sorry!)Saintjon wrote:Look at you getting the "LIKE" button again..;-)...Name one great player who went on to become a "Great" manager??...Dont think that I,with my limited experience,age 55 can think of a single one!..(well said young man!)Nic on the N332 wrote:The problem with Shearer is that he has not real track record, just a great player, does not make a great manager and is not worth the gamble(Newcastle gambled on him, but he failed to inspire). Hoddle done a great job for us, we were struggling and he only bought a couple of players and we really kicked off. Keegan(we are not worthy) would not only inspire, has sound knowledge of how to get promoted, and would put bums on seats to boot. I also believe (if he took the job) he would really love it! if he could lose the quitter tag.saintkenny wrote:Okay. You get the likes of Keegan, Tiss and Shearer running the ship - and it all goes pear-shaped. Another example of heroes to villains. My point being that the fans' favourites may not be the best candidates.saintjak wrote: ummm... no. Hoddle for me. not the populist choice but the right one IMHO. If not then Keegan? popular with the fans and a good man manager. Brown, Dowie, Southgate, Coleman??!! Nope. Hoodle to take us to the premier league.no way hoddle ,half the fans still resent him after the spurs fiasco .keegan would do a good job much more loved by the fans .i wouldnt mind shearer with letissier .with dave merrington in a director role .least you got 2 out of 3 who genuinly love and care about southampton football club
Saintjon
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7:39pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint wrote:Is he a virgin? Not being a personal question or anything.....s/w able-once, im sure Alan Pardew is ooh err!
Alan cant come out to play coz he's been a "Naughty Boy"..LOL..Keep the faith..what else is there?..(apart from booze and drugs,loose women...gambling..la ughing at the misfortune of others..did I leave anything out??
slugger
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7:39pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saints1980 wrote:i know where your'e coming from and i agree.......but my gut feeling since monday is that somthing serious happend,you don't call a meeting on a bankholiday morning and sack a guy in 10 mins because of a mediocre start to a season.........somth
slugger wrote:On what basis do we know that there is any truth to it?! We do not know anything so we should probably not even comment on stories like this. It just seems very fabricated to me and funny that it's after last nights game when the fans were singing Pardews name. I'm just so frustrated that Pardew and our 'Stability' is gone. Suppose I need to get over it and move on but it's just even more annoying with the names being bandied about, the good ones we will never get- O'neill etc. I hope Nicola pulls something out of the hat to get the feel-good factor back......Saints1980 wrote: Just cannot believe a lot of you guys have fallen for this rubbish about Pardew. Somebody is clearly trying to taint Pardew's image so everyone starts kissing Cortese's a**e again. I thank Cortese for saving the club along with Saint Markus but I really do fear for Saints under Nicola's leadership. We are making lots of enemies which will only hinder our progress in the long term. Pardew was best boss we've had in a while and we were really kicking on after saturday. The players I believe are a bit shell-shocked so we need to appoint the new man fairly soon and rescue our promotion bid. We must not panic but I'm so frustrated that we are in this situation again. Seeing as the new boss will not be able to make any signings (although possibly loans) I think we need a real motivator to gee the players up and really kick on again. We could have a large points deficit (again) to overcome if we leave it too long. Top teams are looking strong already. Badly need to be up for it and support the team for 3 points on sat or the rot will really set in. Come on Saints, get it right this whole saga can be put to rest if we're challenging near the top in 10 games time. Up the Saints...on what basis do you say it's rubbish ?
andysaint
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7:45pm Wed 1 Sep 10
jdowling17
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7:47pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Harleysaint
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7:49pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:You get my vote Slugger!!...Can see the headline now(no picture obviously what with the press ban).
the days of a football manager controling the day to day running of a club are long gone,today a manager is basicly a motivator,a tactition and the man who speaks to the press after games(they don't really coach either).......this is what we are looking for,passion for the club is not nearly enough (although it would help).....who that person is i don't know....but i'm sure it's not keegan or shearer.
Tirau Dan
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7:52pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
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7:57pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Tirau Dan wrote:im with you there mate :)
Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.
seedhouse
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7:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:Libel action can only be taken if the story is untrue. We live in a democracy and can print what we like - provided its true!
O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.
slugger
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8:03pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:like you,i'm proud not annoyed that nicola is standing up to the press.....the hart rumour is proof of their spite !.......good on you mr cotese,i'll never read the sun again !!!!
Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.im with you there mate :)
hedge end bob
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8:05pm Wed 1 Sep 10
St Retford wrote:The clubs own fault. Only had to state gross misconduct in their release statement and the fans could accept this , to say nothing leaves themselfs open for all sorts of comments.Unfortunate but people do put two and two together and come up with six. Missed the 606 post, can anyone let us in on it without naming names?
JimmyLondon wrote:Innit. The poor bloke's mate dies and then he has to deal with an absolute shitstorm on the training ground in which he's totally in the right, and yet he gets nothing but abuse from the fans. He must be wondering why he bothers...St Retford wrote: Just had a terrible thought: imagine if everything in JimmyLondon's post is true. How bad would those shouting abuse at him feel? Especially after the loss of his friend and mentor? :(exactley, i am sure there is more to this than meets the eye and that Pardew did do something. NC is miticulous in his planning and execution, had AP's sacking been planned tehre would eb someone else as manager by now, i think that NC acted on instinct and in the short time he had when this came to light
Saintjon
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8:06pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:I will never read the sun either, does that mean I cant look at page 3 ?
Saintjon wrote:like you,i'm proud not annoyed that nicola is standing up to the press.....the hart rumour is proof of their spite !.......good on you mr cotese,i'll never read the sun again !!!!Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.im with you there mate :)
Atpost
says...
8:06pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
8:10pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:that's looking......dosn't count as reading so you're ok !
slugger wrote:I will never read the sun either, does that mean I cant look at page 3 ?Saintjon wrote:like you,i'm proud not annoyed that nicola is standing up to the press.....the hart rumour is proof of their spite !.......good on you mr cotese,i'll never read the sun again !!!!Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.im with you there mate :)
Saintjon
says...
8:14pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:Phew, thank God for that :)
Saintjon wrote:that's looking......dosn't count as reading so you're ok !slugger wrote:I will never read the sun either, does that mean I cant look at page 3 ?Saintjon wrote:like you,i'm proud not annoyed that nicola is standing up to the press.....the hart rumour is proof of their spite !.......good on you mr cotese,i'll never read the sun again !!!!Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.im with you there mate :)
ludacris..
says...
8:15pm Wed 1 Sep 10
seedhouse wrote:Changed your tune haven't you??
St Retford wrote:Libel action can only be taken if the story is untrue. We live in a democracy and can print what we like - provided its true!
O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.
slugger
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8:19pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:we could be onto somthing here........if the sun sales in southampton drop to nil because of this,they'll be forced to publish a soton only edition full of nothing but page 3's......brilliant !!!!
slugger wrote:Phew, thank God for that :)Saintjon wrote:that's looking......dosn't count as reading so you're ok !slugger wrote:I will never read the sun either, does that mean I cant look at page 3 ?Saintjon wrote:like you,i'm proud not annoyed that nicola is standing up to the press.....the hart rumour is proof of their spite !.......good on you mr cotese,i'll never read the sun again !!!!Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.im with you there mate :)
Saintjon
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8:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
8:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:not bad for 30p
The Sun "Page 3 Edition" exclusive to Southampton, sounds good lol.
Enrico Palazzo
says...
8:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Tirau Dan wrote:Enough said.
Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.
Baddesley Bill
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8:31pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon wrote:They could have a special page given over to some of the t*ts on here! (no names given...for libel reasons! lol) :O)
The Sun "Page 3 Edition" exclusive to Southampton, sounds good lol.
Saintjon
says...
8:31pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:and considering the sun only produces about a paragraph at most on match reports , (plus no photos), its a deal :)
Saintjon wrote: The Sun "Page 3 Edition" exclusive to Southampton, sounds good lol.not bad for 30p
Billy 2 Baps
says...
8:33pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
says...
8:34pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Baddesley Bill wrote:That would be a laugh, mug shot and wanted poster.
Saintjon wrote: The Sun "Page 3 Edition" exclusive to Southampton, sounds good lol.They could have a special page given over to some of the t*ts on here! (no names given...for libel reasons! lol) :O)
TUNA_MAN
says...
8:34pm Wed 1 Sep 10
seedhouse
says...
8:37pm Wed 1 Sep 10
ludacris.. wrote:Not at all, but having defended against a libel action was just clarifying a point of law. Libel and its verbal form slander are only that if they meet certain criteria, the main one being the comments are untrue.
seedhouse wrote:Changed your tune haven't you??St Retford wrote: O there's no doubt the 606 posting was taken down because it's massively defamatory to AP and it would have left the BBC and Echo open to libel action. . However, that doesn't mean it wasn't true or, at least, close to the truth.Libel action can only be taken if the story is untrue. We live in a democracy and can print what we like - provided its true!
seedhouse
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8:41pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
8:44pm Wed 1 Sep 10
seedhouse wrote:could you please come to my place and wave a wad of cash at me.......i promise not to sue !
At the skates game I put on arab headgear for a laugh and waved a wad of cash in Peter Storries face (I sit next to the away directors). One of the independent photographers caught it on camera and various shots ended up in 5 national papers plus the echo. The club took a dim view and I had my latest in a long line of bollickings. Under the current regime the photos would have been surpressed.
seedhouse
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8:48pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:lol :)
seedhouse wrote: At the skates game I put on arab headgear for a laugh and waved a wad of cash in Peter Storries face (I sit next to the away directors). One of the independent photographers caught it on camera and various shots ended up in 5 national papers plus the echo. The club took a dim view and I had my latest in a long line of bollickings. Under the current regime the photos would have been surpressed.could you please come to my place and wave a wad of cash at me.......i promise not to sue !
saintmac
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8:48pm Wed 1 Sep 10
puppy saint
says...
8:49pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:Made me and Sir Trevor Brooking laugh!
seedhouse wrote:could you please come to my place and wave a wad of cash at me.......i promise not to sue !
At the skates game I put on arab headgear for a laugh and waved a wad of cash in Peter Storries face (I sit next to the away directors). One of the independent photographers caught it on camera and various shots ended up in 5 national papers plus the echo. The club took a dim view and I had my latest in a long line of bollickings. Under the current regime the photos would have been surpressed.
seedhouse
says...
8:54pm Wed 1 Sep 10
puppy saint wrote:Ha. I use one of the photos as my screen saver and Sir Trevor is having a good chuckle. The two stewards who came and persuaded me to sit down got verbal warnings for not acting quickly enough which I felt bad about but they still said it was funny.
slugger wrote:Made me and Sir Trevor Brooking laugh!seedhouse wrote: At the skates game I put on arab headgear for a laugh and waved a wad of cash in Peter Storries face (I sit next to the away directors). One of the independent photographers caught it on camera and various shots ended up in 5 national papers plus the echo. The club took a dim view and I had my latest in a long line of bollickings. Under the current regime the photos would have been surpressed.could you please come to my place and wave a wad of cash at me.......i promise not to sue !
Salar
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8:54pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Tirau Dan wrote:I have refrained from commenting about the press position, the way that NC appears to run the club, and the recent dismissals because I simply do not know all the facts (and probably never will!). I don't know NC and probably never will. I understand the passion felt by the genuine fans and well appreciate that they may be unhappy at some of decisions made by NC. Also, I remember the vision that he outlined at this time last year. If my memory is correct, part of this was the intention of conducting the club's business in a different manner to that typically done by other English clubs. Well there has been plenty of evidence of this... I am not sure that it is all for the better..! But we were warned. The idea of moving the club forward on a (more or completely?) sustainable business model that is the complete opposite of the financial shambles evidenced elsewhere seems to be a worthwhile intention. Especially, as in the future, if the rule changes take a more financially conservative view, the foundations being laid over the past year may prove to be prescient, wise, and the model to be admired and followed by others. It is entirely possible that with having financial expertise at the helm such a goal is possible. It is also possible that the foundations are on sand.. only time will tell.... With such a fairly radical aim, it is entirely likely that some will feel that the change in the established order is unwelcome and unacceptable, especially if vested interests loose a pecunary benefit. This is the price of progress. As for the press, they are more than capable of looking after their interests. I think it is too early to judge NC's success or failure and it appears that his natural approach is secretive which leads to much suspicion whether fair or not.
Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.
Saintjon
says...
8:55pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saintmac wrote:Is it not on one of the threads from before...or have they deleted them?
Please can someone give me the outline of the 606 report without naming names?
slugger
says...
8:57pm Wed 1 Sep 10
saintmac wrote:it was posted earlier on this thread......if it's been deleted then the outline is.................t
Please can someone give me the outline of the 606 report without naming names?
franiow
says...
9:00pm Wed 1 Sep 10
cbuk
says...
9:03pm Wed 1 Sep 10
puppy saint
says...
9:03pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:you obviously intended to write allegedly Slugger?
saintmac wrote:it was posted earlier on this thread......if it's been deleted then the outline is.................t
Please can someone give me the outline of the 606 report without naming names?
here was a confrontation between ap and a 1st team player at staplewood to do with the players wife,scuffles ensued and about half a dozen players demanded action.....also accusations of a drinking gang (those dismissed)someone else will probably add more as that's all i can remember.........hop
e this helps.
saint matt
says...
9:04pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
9:08pm Wed 1 Sep 10
puppy saint wrote:can't spell it puppysaint.
slugger wrote:you obviously intended to write allegedly Slugger?saintmac wrote: Please can someone give me the outline of the 606 report without naming names?it was posted earlier on this thread......if it's been deleted then the outline is.................t here was a confrontation between ap and a 1st team player at staplewood to do with the players wife,scuffles ensued and about half a dozen players demanded action.....also accusations of a drinking gang (those dismissed)someone else will probably add more as that's all i can remember.........hop e this helps.
Footso
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9:14pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Salar wrote:Quality, Salar! We just don't know, and probably never will find out the whole story. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed that it all works out right.
Tirau Dan wrote: Two people (ex media) emailed me to say Eaglespark was most likely a multiple ID used by Echo Staff to up the threads. Saying it was common practise at some papers. Heck if not the Echo then it's sport for rival clubs fans to do it. I'd say they are having a field day at the mo by the number of new posters here. That thought has kept me sane this week as I'm deeply hurt and thoroughly ashamed of a lot of hot heads that just fire off pot shots, some racist, some just totally unfounded. To liken the current era to the Lowe days just because Alan Pardew got sacked is a bigger shock to me than the sacking. This gentleman chairman of ours had a vision of taking Saints to the top which he sold to one of the most decent men in business. He'll get the job done for Markus and will at least enjoy the support of Kararina Liebherr if not the ranting short sighted people in Southampton that do not know all the facts but prefer to sling off anyway. I agree with the many fans who protest changes in the ticket structure which hurt a lot and with changes in the press relationship but do so rationally and see whether their are benefits in the long term for the club. If Nicola Cortese can get a club running and standing on it's own feet then he will be one of the very few in Britain. I admire him for not being bullied by the ignoramus press and league as he forges a new blueprint for the way a club should be run. I do not doubt Saints are going up, not for a single second. If some have to be dragged up to the Prem kicking and protesting so be it. I hope some support comes back and the Echo exercise a little moderation. Do people know that your Echo username and password gets them on to other papers in the chain... check out some of the papers in the way they snipe at Saints.. it's all from the owners.. I hate it, it's childish : subuteo and cartoons.. They charge for photos, Pop Stars have done it for ages (no cameras or photographers and licensed sales only) so why not Football Clubs when they are struggling for funds? I am considering a name change for The Echo Saints Forum facebook group to South Coast Club Forum in support of The Chairman where slagging at Saints is banned and debate is encouraged I'll see what members think.I have refrained from commenting about the press position, the way that NC appears to run the club, and the recent dismissals because I simply do not know all the facts (and probably never will!). I don't know NC and probably never will. I understand the passion felt by the genuine fans and well appreciate that they may be unhappy at some of decisions made by NC. Also, I remember the vision that he outlined at this time last year. If my memory is correct, part of this was the intention of conducting the club's business in a different manner to that typically done by other English clubs. Well there has been plenty of evidence of this... I am not sure that it is all for the better..! But we were warned. The idea of moving the club forward on a (more or completely?) sustainable business model that is the complete opposite of the financial shambles evidenced elsewhere seems to be a worthwhile intention. Especially, as in the future, if the rule changes take a more financially conservative view, the foundations being laid over the past year may prove to be prescient, wise, and the model to be admired and followed by others. It is entirely possible that with having financial expertise at the helm such a goal is possible. It is also possible that the foundations are on sand.. only time will tell.... With such a fairly radical aim, it is entirely likely that some will feel that the change in the established order is unwelcome and unacceptable, especially if vested interests loose a pecunary benefit. This is the price of progress. As for the press, they are more than capable of looking after their interests. I think it is too early to judge NC's success or failure and it appears that his natural approach is secretive which leads to much suspicion whether fair or not. Dan, don't change the name it could be seen as supportive of the papers that use such labels, we are Saints' supporters and proud of it!
nw saint
says...
9:14pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
9:22pm Wed 1 Sep 10
nw saint wrote:marco van basten......now there's a shout !
If Nicola Cortese need help in finding a good manager that is out of work how about one of these the Bernd Schuster, Jürgen Klinsmann, Glenn Hoddle, Marco van Basten, Alan Curbishley, Kevin Keegan, Michael Laudrup. Just a few interesting names he could try...
Red n White
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9:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10
franiow
says...
9:25pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Footso
says...
9:37pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Red n White wrote:Whether we could sign him or not, I don't fancy that on the back of my shirt!
Danny Shittu has just been released by Bolton with immediate effect - would be a quality signing if we could get him and then drop Jaidi
Spirit of 58
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9:41pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
says...
9:46pm Wed 1 Sep 10
franiow wrote:i believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma
When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chance
ludacris..
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9:52pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:Great stuff, i am glad today is seeing more people trusting in Nicola... i know you always have mate.
franiow wrote: When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chancei believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma ke it pay it's way,quite radical in todays way of doing things......mark my words , he will prevail.....we are amonsgt the most financially stable clubs in the world !!!!!!ultimately we will forge ahead of others and show the world how to run a football club.... in nicola i trust and have no reason to think otherwise !
Saintjon
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9:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger
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10:02pm Wed 1 Sep 10
ludacris.. wrote:at the end of the day.....i know about my job and you know about yours,fred bloggs knows about his and so on !.........none of us know how to run sfc,i say leave it to the experts !
slugger wrote:Great stuff, i am glad today is seeing more people trusting in Nicola... i know you always have mate.franiow wrote: When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chancei believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma ke it pay it's way,quite radical in todays way of doing things......mark my words , he will prevail.....we are amonsgt the most financially stable clubs in the world !!!!!!ultimately we will forge ahead of others and show the world how to run a football club.... in nicola i trust and have no reason to think otherwise !
Southampton Heart
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10:13pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:you said it Sluggs, Luda & Franny.
ludacris.. wrote:at the end of the day.....i know about my job and you know about yours,fred bloggs knows about his and so on !.........none of us know how to run sfc,i say leave it to the experts !
slugger wrote:Great stuff, i am glad today is seeing more people trusting in Nicola... i know you always have mate.franiow wrote: When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chancei believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma ke it pay it's way,quite radical in todays way of doing things......mark my words , he will prevail.....we are amonsgt the most financially stable clubs in the world !!!!!!ultimately we will forge ahead of others and show the world how to run a football club.... in nicola i trust and have no reason to think otherwise !
Southampton Heart
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10:13pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:you said it Sluggs, Luda & Franny.
ludacris.. wrote:at the end of the day.....i know about my job and you know about yours,fred bloggs knows about his and so on !.........none of us know how to run sfc,i say leave it to the experts !
slugger wrote:Great stuff, i am glad today is seeing more people trusting in Nicola... i know you always have mate.franiow wrote: When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chancei believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma ke it pay it's way,quite radical in todays way of doing things......mark my words , he will prevail.....we are amonsgt the most financially stable clubs in the world !!!!!!ultimately we will forge ahead of others and show the world how to run a football club.... in nicola i trust and have no reason to think otherwise !
northamrowcc
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10:20pm Wed 1 Sep 10
ludacris.. wrote:More fools listening to idiots like you,the reason is emerging' NC bought Guly the only Brazilian footballer with no talent! AP did not want him played him when the game was safe upset NC and the rest is history Rupert Lowe has returned
slugger wrote:Great stuff, i am glad today is seeing more people trusting in Nicola... i know you always have mate.
franiow wrote: When AP was sacked I thought NC had a new manager lined up and AP had been shafted. That wasn't true so NC must have had a strong reason for sacking him at such short notice. Let's support the team and give NC and the new manager a chancei believe that nicola is trying to run the club like a business....ie....ma ke it pay it's way,quite radical in todays way of doing things......mark my words , he will prevail.....we are amonsgt the most financially stable clubs in the world !!!!!!ultimately we will forge ahead of others and show the world how to run a football club.... in nicola i trust and have no reason to think otherwise !
dj scooternick
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10:27pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Saintjon
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10:35pm Wed 1 Sep 10
dj scooternick wrote:Maybe it was a threesome :)
if pardew was sacked for gross missconduct,why sack two coaches as well?
franiow
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10:36pm Wed 1 Sep 10
northamrowcc
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10:36pm Wed 1 Sep 10
dj scooternick wrote:Perhaps they agreed with AP and suffered the consequences? the press new some time ago that something was wrong so they were banned.
if pardew was sacked for gross missconduct,why sack two coaches as well?
northamrowcc
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10:41pm Wed 1 Sep 10
franiow wrote:My gut feeling is that it didn't seem to matter that we won 4-0 all he cared about was that his judgement was being questioned, we will probably never know the true reason as I suspect AP might have got an incentive to stay quite?
If NC wanted Guly played he would argue with AP. I don't believe he would sack him for that reason, especially as we won 4.0. The more likely scenario would be they'd have a steaming row and AP would have walked. That didn't happen. It was a 10 min sacking. This sounds like gossip perpetrated by newspapers. Everything else is gossip as well. I say lets have a look at the next manager and his relationship wth NC. Remember we don't want Saints sold again. Everyone out there looking for a football club is shadier than a black umbrella at night.
nw saint
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10:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
HullCityFan
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10:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Kamawoop
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11:00pm Wed 1 Sep 10
non sailor, lymington
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11:10pm Wed 1 Sep 10
the third hardest man in sholing
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11:12pm Wed 1 Sep 10
ben dover
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11:15pm Wed 1 Sep 10
slugger wrote:clear message here. keep it in yer "Y" FRONTS.
saintmac wrote:it was posted earlier on this thread......if it's been deleted then the outline is.................t
Please can someone give me the outline of the 606 report without naming names?
here was a confrontation between ap and a 1st team player at staplewood to do with the players wife,scuffles ensued and about half a dozen players demanded action.....also accusations of a drinking gang (those dismissed)someone else will probably add more as that's all i can remember.........hop
e this helps.
Kamawoop
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11:23pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Red n White
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11:54pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Kamawoop wrote:Apparently, ML wanted AP out at the end of last season but NC defended him and they stuck with him for the beginning of this season, but with high targets. With a slow start, defeat to Plymouth and draw with Orient, this fling just seemed to top it all and NC decided he had to get rid of AP and his staff who the players didn't get on with, apparently calling for action from NC, so i presume the supposed fling would have been recent.
When did AP make his move on her? Was it last December? Seems to me a bit far-fetched that the board have been wanting rid for half-a-year and now, suddenly, after he's gone all the justifications appear.
BlueWhiteRed
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11:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Tirau Dan
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ShakeyWiffles
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oregonsaint
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Tirau Dan
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7saint7
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oregonsaint
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4:06am Thu 2 Sep 10
7saint7 wrote:Shearer is a young English manager? What team does he manage at the moment, or what team has he ever managed? It might be good for him to come here, but he has no proven managerial experience to my knowlege, but what do I know?
Phil Brown interested in becoming the next Southampton manager good on him got to like the man for that ;-) Alan Pardew was a good manager won us jpt took us to 7th with -10 pts and Mr Cortese backed all his buy's and said what needed to be said from time to time to get him back on track . so Mr Cortese like's to stay away from the press good on him like what he's done think any manger would like to work with him he's hard but very fair. COYR i for one would love Shearer as boss he's a young engish manager who could be great . also if he could have king kev with him helping him would be better than when we had big mac and ball :-)
Tirau Dan
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6:05am Thu 2 Sep 10
franiow
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7:04am Thu 2 Sep 10
Rowester
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7:28am Thu 2 Sep 10
oregonsaint wrote:Newcastle!........Bu
7saint7 wrote: Phil Brown interested in becoming the next Southampton manager good on him got to like the man for that ;-) Alan Pardew was a good manager won us jpt took us to 7th with -10 pts and Mr Cortese backed all his buy's and said what needed to be said from time to time to get him back on track . so Mr Cortese like's to stay away from the press good on him like what he's done think any manger would like to work with him he's hard but very fair. COYR i for one would love Shearer as boss he's a young engish manager who could be great . also if he could have king kev with him helping him would be better than when we had big mac and ball :-)Shearer is a young English manager? What team does he manage at the moment, or what team has he ever managed? It might be good for him to come here, but he has no proven managerial experience to my knowlege, but what do I know?
chapelsaint
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8:03am Thu 2 Sep 10
Littleton-Saint
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8:32am Thu 2 Sep 10
TakingLeTiss
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8:42am Thu 2 Sep 10
Littleton-Saint wrote:Evidence?
Brown is far too dominating for Cortese. Zola fits Cortese's bill. He's pliable and fairly assuming. He'll do what he's told. Cortese is like Lowe - he wants to manage the team through a puppet!
Littleton-Saint
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8:42am Thu 2 Sep 10
Littleton-Saint wrote:That was meant to read: "unassuming"!!
Brown is far too dominating for Cortese. Zola fits Cortese's bill. He's pliable and fairly assuming. He'll do what he's told. Cortese is like Lowe - he wants to manage the team through a puppet!
Littleton-Saint
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8:44am Thu 2 Sep 10
saintssaintssaints
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saintssaintssaints
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Huntingdon Saint
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the third hardest man in sholing
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saintssaintssaints
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7saint7
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ShakeyWiffles
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Tirau Dan wrote:lol Dan! Shakey is because of my surname!
The public expression of interest from Phil Brown os heartening. Agree Shakey but please change your name to steady wiffles 8)
hantsyork
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7:23pm Thu 2 Sep 10
Tirau Dan
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8:28pm Thu 2 Sep 10
ShakeyWiffles wrote:double lol... there's always deed poll ;p
Tirau Dan wrote:lol Dan! Shakey is because of my surname!
The public expression of interest from Phil Brown os heartening. Agree Shakey but please change your name to steady wiffles 8)
ben dover
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11:04pm Thu 2 Sep 10
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costa gaz says...
11:56am Wed 1 Sep 10
Forget Martin O'Neil etc... etc... never was going to happen.
Get him in place asap.