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    Bungy53 wrote:
    Seedhouse the Sequel wrote:
    puppy_saint wrote: Someone mentioned the 'bi-polar syndrome' like attitudes of some Saints fans recently. I couldn't agree more. I know all fans are fickle but we must have more than most. Man up! Show a bit a belief. If you go to games then get behind the players. Don't sit there grizzling and tutting. Show a bit of passion and pride in your club. It might help more than booing. MAN UP!
    The reason we are miffed is the problems are self created. We sacked a manager purely because the chairman didnt like him, nothing to do with results nothing to do with Fontes girlfriend. We then lost alot of ground under the caretaker. Nige was brought in the day after the transfer window shut. He then needed to learn the squad and is still fully finding his feet. We didnt take full advantage of the transfer window and indeed weakened the squad by loaning too many out. NC's last chance for this season is the January window and already there are veiled messages via NA that we may wait to the summer.... That's why we are miffed, nothing to do with fickle, we know it could have been different.
    Can't agree with you Seedhouse, NC is a business man and one of the basic rules of business is that "you don't have to like someone to work with them". Sure it helps but definitely not necessary. Whatever the reason or reasons we are not likely to know for sure, because of a likely confidentiality clause. It's history, move on fella. I have to say Seedhouse, from your past postings you come across as one of those from the Pre-Liebheer era whose nose has been put out of joint. Whoever is in charge now or in the future, all us arm-chair managers will never be 100% satisfied with results, personalities or the timing of certain events. It's all down to one common denominator the game of football itself. In the words of one very famous past England player --"It's a funny old game"
    You're wrong about me Bungy53, the pre-Liebherr era was for many years one of decline, frustration and despondency. The arrival of the Liebherrs was the best thing that happened to this club for many, many years.

    AP was part of the Liebherr era and I think an excellent manager for us at this time in this division. At £250k a year we had a manager who was well connected in the game for transfers and loans. He told me that the relationship between him and Cortese had collapsed and it was effectively down to Marcus to decide who stayed and who went (I paraphrase a long conversation) I said "that's you gone then" he replied "dont be too sure".

    The next week Marcus died, three weeks later Pardew was gone. This was not a business decision.

    Having now met Nigel, who I do believe will get it right for our club, I can see a more shall we say manipulable character by the chairman. A loyal and faithful man, 14 years at Scunthorpe, and keen to progress. He is less likely to confront the chairman over cash for players etc etc.

    All I have ever said is that I am uneasy about the qualities of NC, for the many reasons I have sited before and wont repeat now. I know I will get slated for saying this but it's my honest opinion and that's what these threads are for. However, again as I've said before, I hope i'm wrong, I hope time shows him to be the person you all think he is.

    He was without doubt a very, very successful banker but that is not the same as being a businessman. The way he has structured the club he is effectively in total control, he answers to know one. He has far more power than the Dark Lord ever had. No proper business does that. You need checks and balances and non execs.

    What I have said is that NC must also be accountable for delivering his 5 year plan (if it slips to 6 or 7 so be it). However, surely you can agree that say we fail to get promoted this year or even next then it's fair to say that the Liehberrs should replace him?

    Obviously I hope he gets us promoted this year, indeed he said he got rid of AP to be sure of going up this season. If I were him I would give NA the 2-3 first team players he needs in January otherwise it somewhat blows up in his face doesn't it?"
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Big freeze not all bad for Saints

Lee Barnard

Lee Barnard

First published in Saints News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

LEE Barnard’s fitness should be among the silver linings after Saints suffered the disappointment of a second successive away League One game being postponed due to the big freeze.

A pitch inspection yesterday morning revealed the pitch at Walsall’s Banks’s Stadium was frozen and, with no realistic chance of it thawing, the game was given the axe early. It is now scheduled for March 1.

Saints’ game at Hartlepool earlier this month was postponed in the same way. But at least it gives key striker Barnard extra chance to get fit in time for Saints’ Boxing Day trip to Charlton. Full story in today's Daily Echo

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