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Norris leveller denies Saints derby win
3:16pm Saturday 7th April 2012 in Saints News
Norris leveller denies Saints derby win
David Norris’ equaliser deep into stoppage time denied Saints victory in the south coast derby.
Saints twice led through Billy Sharp goals but were pegged back on both occasions at St Mary’s.
Sharp’s first came after 28 minutes only for Chris Maguire’s fierce drive to level things up eight minutes later.
Saints were not at their best but thought they won it when Sharp flicked home from close range with just a minute of the game remaining, the goal initially ruled out for offside before referee Neil Swarbrick reversed the decision.
But Norris’ remarkable strike in the dying seconds of the game meant Saints had to settle for a point.
It took them back to the top of the table on goal difference, now level with second placed Reading and four ahead of third placed West Ham with five games left.
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Yon_St_Harri
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3:23pm Sat 7 Apr 12
up saints
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3:27pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Yon_St_Harri
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3:29pm Sat 7 Apr 12
up saints wrote:You mean 'tense' and 'they're'.....
bright side still top but if you sit back bring harding on for sharpe so late in a tence match like this you deserve to be punished.1 point is far more important to us than for them there doomed.
JohnItaly
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3:32pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Yon_St_Harri
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3:34pm Sat 7 Apr 12
JohnItaly wrote:Agreed - a poor and regretable decision.
I have always felt best form of defence is attack. Why substitute a forward with a defender so late in the game? To my mind it tells the opposition we are going to shut-up shop so come and get us if you can and they did!!
saintmark1977
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3:35pm Sat 7 Apr 12
We were winning today and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute for Sharp. Result? They score again.
When will he ever learn?
Coupled the above with Mr Adkins obviously having no idea how to play without Lambert as at Blackpool last week and it is clear to see where the blame lies.
A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.
up saints
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3:36pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Yon_St_Harri wrote:agreed i tried to say the same even with spelling errors
JohnItaly wrote:Agreed - a poor and regretable decision.
I have always felt best form of defence is attack. Why substitute a forward with a defender so late in the game? To my mind it tells the opposition we are going to shut-up shop so come and get us if you can and they did!!
saint70
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3:40pm Sat 7 Apr 12
mark5
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3:40pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Linesman
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3:43pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saintmark1977 wrote:I know that it's Easter, but do you really need to crucify Nigel Adams?
We were winning at Portsmouth and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute. Result? They score.
We were winning today and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute for Sharp. Result? They score again.
When will he ever learn?
Coupled the above with Mr Adkins obviously having no idea how to play without Lambert as at Blackpool last week and it is clear to see where the blame lies.
A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.
Look at the league table, and then think again.
GHamilton
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3:43pm Sat 7 Apr 12
ble, another white knuckle ride we re in for!!
rocketone
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3:44pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Did they come with an attitude that this was their biggest game of the season?
We have 5 games bigger than this because we are going to get promotion.
If poopey lose their next 5 they will still boast about this game.
Big deal.
they are going down, we are going up . why should we be downhearted ?
Get real........ we are top of the league and in August I would have been sectioned for daring to suggest we might be !
Mush On The Beach
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3:47pm Sat 7 Apr 12
It was in essence a typical derby game where form goes out of the window and we blew it.
The ref was an arrse, they were dirty twatts early doors and he didn’t stamp it out.
They were an embarrassment to the premiership and now to the championship, but like a hot potato they keep bankruptingly bouncing around with nobody in power having the **** to wipe them out on their watch.
A Skint club that can still loan players to come in and score goals to affect outcomes at both ends of the table is to me morally bankrupt and an indictment of the hypocrisy killing the game.
Bitter and twisted? ..... Words cannot describe it.
Having said that, I’d like to thank the Scummers for another point that will lead us to our promotion .
See you in another life Blue Few.
rocketone
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3:48pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saint70
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3:48pm Sat 7 Apr 12
rocketone wrote:Fair play!
Did we lose?
Did they come with an attitude that this was their biggest game of the season?
We have 5 games bigger than this because we are going to get promotion.
If poopey lose their next 5 they will still boast about this game.
Big deal.
they are going down, we are going up . why should we be downhearted ?
Get real........ we are top of the league and in August I would have been sectioned for daring to suggest we might be !
mellowmellor
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3:48pm Sat 7 Apr 12
PembSaint
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3:52pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saintmark1977 wrote:A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.
We were winning at Portsmouth and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute. Result? They score.
We were winning today and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute for Sharp. Result? They score again.
When will he ever learn?
Coupled the above with Mr Adkins obviously having no idea how to play without Lambert as at Blackpool last week and it is clear to see where the blame lies.
A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.
....and just who was the Manager that got us to the top of the table..?
GHamilton
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3:54pm Sat 7 Apr 12
loadcee
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3:54pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saintmark1977
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3:56pm Sat 7 Apr 12
By the way who is Nigel Adams?
Reference the table. If our manager had not made the sustitution, thus allowing the Ref to add on even more time then we would have 81 points not 79.
Saint.
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3:56pm Sat 7 Apr 12
JohnItaly wrote:Totally believe this too. Attack and be in their faces and give them something to think about, most certainly better than allow them to be hungry to get at least some morsel out their crap season, and we did, and fair play to them they got in our faces and took their chance as they had nothing what so ever to lose! You could see it coming. We did not create pressure, we invited pressure!!
I have always felt best form of defence is attack. Why substitute a forward with a defender so late in the game? To my mind it tells the opposition we are going to shut-up shop so come and get us if you can and they did!!
Moreover, is it me, or dose Prado really look like he dose not care, and I would go as far as to say, he looks like to me he really dose not want to be here playing for Saints? At the start of the season he scored some crucial goals, even though he seemed to be the odd cog in the team, and he always had answer to give his critics in the next game. But now, and taken into account is luck luster way of play, he really seems even more not to care like he did at the beginning of the season. Why has he not been dropped, as we need to play with an eleven committed players playing for the shirt and win this dam league!? I am even convinced that opposition teams do not worry about him and even expect him to be subbed in the second half.
I can't remember when he taken on a player and created something positive in recent games, or even made a correct pass forward to another red and white shirt. Yes he sometimes finds one passing back/side-wards, which is still not always the most convincing pass back/side-wards and shows massive signs of negative thoughts/play!
Folkestone Saint
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3:58pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saint70 wrote:Why? it will be a good day when we are promoted. I would be worried if I were todays opposition, they only played twice this season and Coventry are winning 2-1
I might just be me but I'm getting slightly worried about us getting promoted??
pompeyfanpaul
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3:59pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach
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3:59pm Sat 7 Apr 12
mellowmellor wrote:Can I shagg your girlfriend, I love your Woosie/Liberal attitude
Man up you moaners, we all expected to hammer them but credit where credits due and they were the better team and our 2nd goal was offside so we were lucky to grab a draw, why dont our fans sing as much much as Pompeys when we are getting promotion and they are going out of business ..COYR
rocketone
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4:00pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Every single manager makes that same one and the goalscorer gets a standing ovation, we still had Lambert on the pitch and plenty of players to get behind the ball.
The players were on the pitch and should have been able to deal with a long punt but they didn't.
Stop slating and start thinking.
rocketone
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4:01pm Sat 7 Apr 12
pompeyfanpaul wrote:and we are going to laugh when you are relegated.
Great result 'PLAY UP POMPEY', I'll laugh my socks off if you scummers miss out on promotion by 1 point.
by several points.
Folkestone Saint
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4:01pm Sat 7 Apr 12
pompeyfanpaul wrote:Coventry 2-1 P/Boro
Great result 'PLAY UP POMPEY', I'll laugh my socks off if you scummers miss out on promotion by 1 point.
Bluebob
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4:04pm Sat 7 Apr 12
abbiscuits
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4:04pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Linesman wrote:Who is nigel adams?
saintmark1977 wrote: We were winning at Portsmouth and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute. Result? They score. We were winning today and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute for Sharp. Result? They score again. When will he ever learn? Coupled the above with Mr Adkins obviously having no idea how to play without Lambert as at Blackpool last week and it is clear to see where the blame lies. A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.I know that it's Easter, but do you really need to crucify Nigel Adams? Look at the league table, and then think again.
rocketone
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4:06pm Sat 7 Apr 12
his form is slipping further and it can not be coincidental that the slating he gets whatever he does is having a toll.
OUR manager thinks he does a job he is told to do, the supporters don't and eventually the supporters will get their way and another player will leave and play better for another team.
Mush On The Beach
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4:09pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Bluebob wrote:Oh go on then BobbyBoy, group hugs all round. XXXXX
Well said mellowmellor, nice to hear a common sense summing up by a decent Southampton fan, it's a shame that a few of your fellow fans can't show as much humility. The same people who lower the tone with their sour grapes on the Pompey forum are doing the same on here, they can't give credit where credit is due & will not take their red tinted specs off. It was a great derby match & I am convinced that you will still be promoted, but I'm afraid we still possess bragging rights as far as our personal battles go & you just have to swallow your pride & accept that. Good luck for the rest of the season, PUP, PTID.
I’m trying to sort out my anger management, honestly
Bluebob
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4:15pm Sat 7 Apr 12
bully0046
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4:15pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Linesman
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4:21pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saintmark1977 wrote:My apologies as well. I, of course, meant Adkins.
Sorry Linesman. No offence intended to those of a religious belief.
By the way who is Nigel Adams?
Reference the table. If our manager had not made the sustitution, thus allowing the Ref to add on even more time then we would have 81 points not 79.
It's all history now. Throughout the season Nigel's decisions have proved to be the right ones, which is why Saints are top of the league. Who knows, if he had not made the substitution, it could have meant losing instead of drawing.
We all aim for perfection, and we all fall short by varying degrees. The league position indicates that Nigel, although not perfect, has made fewer errors than most as far as football is concerned.
Linesman
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4:23pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:I doubt that you have a good one in you.
mellowmellor wrote:Can I shagg your girlfriend, I love your Woosie/Liberal attitude
Man up you moaners, we all expected to hammer them but credit where credits due and they were the better team and our 2nd goal was offside so we were lucky to grab a draw, why dont our fans sing as much much as Pompeys when we are getting promotion and they are going out of business ..COYR
loosehead
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4:24pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Saint.
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4:30pm Sat 7 Apr 12
rocketone wrote:If your referring to my earlier post? I suggest you read it again!
It seems that the Guly haters are getting their way.
his form is slipping further and it can not be coincidental that the slating he gets whatever he does is having a toll.
OUR manager thinks he does a job he is told to do, the supporters don't and eventually the supporters will get their way and another player will leave and play better for another team.
I am not a hater of Prado, and I am asking the questions only to see what other Saint fans as yourself think. But regardless of what you say, you have in your comments confirm he not playing well, as you seem to think fans are getting on his back. This can be applied to any player, but it is more important as a pro on how you respond to it and not sulk.
You will also see I have given credit to Prado for answering his critics, which you can not say he is doing now for many games now! I trust in NA more than most, though I am trying to see why NA persist with him, but I just can't and would wish NA to sit down with me over a cuppa to explain, but that is never going to happen.
I may also add that I am not one who enjoys to put a Saints player down so easily. But with Prado in so many games now he looks like he somewhere else and shows a don't care attitude. So my point is can we afford this in hopefully a title wining side, and I would say no! If he dropped it might be what he needs, and to answer you if he sold to another, at this present time I really feel it would not make us weaker. Having him mopping around on the pitch will, and again oppositions teams really don't worry about him, and just wait for the coming substitution. Why telegraph with this ploy every game.
Lastly I would love Prado to going out on Monday and score a ha-trick! I really would!! But the way he is playing he never going to get in the box to do such a thing, and I would added he not linking up with Lambert at all up front now a days.
Bluebob
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4:30pm Sat 7 Apr 12
David Crook
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4:30pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach
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4:31pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Bluebob wrote:BobbyBoy happy to discuss.
Mush on the beach, you could do with following mellowmellors example, he is obviously a true football fan and appreciates the finer aspects of the game rather than slagging for slaggings sake, you obviously don't possess the knowledge to qualify as a fair & unbiased observer, still, your team bowed to our quality on the day in a great match, PUP, PTID.
Fair play today, the result will stand in history? or will it?
No excuses as far as performances, we blew it.
What gripes me is your excuse of a football club is allowed to flagrantly breach all rules of a bankrupt business and still trade with players coming in to your club. Fed up with the embarrassment you are purveying to the world footballing family
Mowyjoe
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4:33pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach
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4:42pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Linesman wrote:Heckled by a Linesman, Hilarious.
Mush On The Beach wrote:I doubt that you have a good one in you.
mellowmellor wrote:Can I shagg your girlfriend, I love your Woosie/Liberal attitude
Man up you moaners, we all expected to hammer them but credit where credits due and they were the better team and our 2nd goal was offside so we were lucky to grab a draw, why dont our fans sing as much much as Pompeys when we are getting promotion and they are going out of business ..COYR
Tell me truthfully, are you taller than 5 foot 4 inches cheeky one?
DisplacedFan
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4:48pm Sat 7 Apr 12
pompeyfanpaul wrote:I'll laugh as you go down. Think about it - if we don't go up, you will still go down!!
Great result 'PLAY UP POMPEY', I'll laugh my socks off if you scummers miss out on promotion by 1 point.
cyber_fug
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5:01pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saintmark1977 wrote:The Police wanted both matches to be a draw to reduce any chance of violence..... Lets sue the police for match fixing :oD
We were winning at Portsmouth and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute. Result? They score.
We were winning today and Mr Adkins brings on a substitute for Sharp. Result? They score again.
When will he ever learn?
Coupled the above with Mr Adkins obviously having no idea how to play without Lambert as at Blackpool last week and it is clear to see where the blame lies.
A "nailed on" promotion is slipping through our hands.
Bluebob
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5:03pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach
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5:34pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Bluebob wrote:Good night John Boy, good night Mary Ellin, good night Elizabeth and good night BOBBY BOB.
Mush on the beach, I;m afraid you are wrong, if we had broken all the rules as you suggest, we would have been further punished by the FL. The facts are that we played completely by the rules as regards loaning players, & all the other associated rules, just as your club did a few years ago but I don't denigrate your club for surviving as best you could under the circumstances, what really wrankles with you is the fact that it was one of those loanees that scored a brilliant first goal against you. Never mind, don't fret, you will still go up then you can concentrate on your own team's affairs rather than ours.
Sleep well on Waltons Mountain (where it’s aperfect world).
What really wrankles me here in reality (no offence Bob) is that the laws are an arrse, as you quite rightly take advantage of them.
But I the Mush say enough is enough. You are a repeat offender and should have been relegated. Remember Leeds, Luton, Rotheram, Chester, Plymouth. They did it and some were punished far worse than you.
Have you done the time for the crime Bob? .... I don’t think so!!!
saintkenny
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5:49pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Bluebob wrote:how do you work this out proper football league and cup matches 34 to 17 biggest wins 50 and 4 0 at home .and in a game not a proper game at fratton alan knights match 5 1 was the score .perhaps you have forgot .all skates will be reminded.also soon to leagues below us ,no money .accept and swallow your pride your down in dead in buried uts stid .premier league here we come and guess what we wont cheat
Well said mellowmellor, nice to hear a common sense summing up by a decent Southampton fan, it's a shame that a few of your fellow fans can't show as much humility. The same people who lower the tone with their sour grapes on the Pompey forum are doing the same on here, they can't give credit where credit is due & will not take their red tinted specs off. It was a great derby match & I am convinced that you will still be promoted, but I'm afraid we still possess bragging rights as far as our personal battles go & you just have to swallow your pride & accept that. Good luck for the rest of the season, PUP, PTID.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:52pm Sat 7 Apr 12
saint70 wrote:I am sure you are you, and don't worry we might or we might not do it, 5 games to go, enjoy the ride, the worse scenario is to get beat in the Play Offs, we don't want that do we?
I might just be me but I'm getting slightly worried about us getting promoted??
Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:53pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Nothing less than 3 Points against Palace and against Reading will do as its a playoff place against Wet Spammers!
OSPREYSAINT
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5:57pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:Have you forgotten that our prime midfielder was booked and injured before ten minutes was out, might have had an influence on the outcome?
What a Derby well played out by both teams thats what makes Soccer so nerve ending.Now the facts Saints again been found out with a duff midfield aint Atkins sussed this out yet!
Nothing less than 3 Points against Palace and against Reading will do as its a playoff place against Wet Spammers!
joelster
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6:00pm Sat 7 Apr 12
1. Saints 90pts
2. West Ham 84pts
2. Reading 84pts
I have saints getting 11 from 5.
West Ham getting 9 and Reading getting 5!
I know when you look at that you think "You're really biased" but truth be known look at the remaining games and you will see it. The only "banana" in the works is what happens next Friday with Reading- but we're "at home" and its not a derby- we'll win it!!
Thoughts?
Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:05pm Sat 7 Apr 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Primed for what his Goal Scoring record now hang on a minute I can count how many he has got on one hand!
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:Have you forgotten that our prime midfielder was booked and injured before ten minutes was out, might have had an influence on the outcome?
What a Derby well played out by both teams thats what makes Soccer so nerve ending.Now the facts Saints again been found out with a duff midfield aint Atkins sussed this out yet!
Nothing less than 3 Points against Palace and against Reading will do as its a playoff place against Wet Spammers!
OSPREYSAINT
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6:05pm Sat 7 Apr 12
mellowmellor wrote:Ain't you a skate? Or were you watching a different game to the rest of us? The 2nd goal would have gone down as a Varney own goal, if Sharp hadn't touched it in.
Man up you moaners, we all expected to hammer them but credit where credits due and they were the better team and our 2nd goal was offside so we were lucky to grab a draw, why dont our fans sing as much much as Pompeys when we are getting promotion and they are going out of business ..COYR
Saints 54% possession, 14 shots 7 on Target, Pompey 8 shots 3 on target. Saints 9 corners , Pompey 3, Saints 7 fouls, Pompey 12. The statistics don't equate to your summary. I was in the Kingsland and my ears are still ringing, where were you. on the North Pole?
OSPREYSAINT
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6:11pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:Would have loved Spider if he scored more but that isn't what we pay him for is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Primed for what his Goal Scoring record now hang on a minute I can count how many he has got on one hand!
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:Have you forgotten that our prime midfielder was booked and injured before ten minutes was out, might have had an influence on the outcome?
What a Derby well played out by both teams thats what makes Soccer so nerve ending.Now the facts Saints again been found out with a duff midfield aint Atkins sussed this out yet!
Nothing less than 3 Points against Palace and against Reading will do as its a playoff place against Wet Spammers!
Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:29pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Linesman
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7:34pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Why? Do you want someone to look up to? You appear to be short on intelligence so maybe you are also short on stature.
Linesman wrote:Heckled by a Linesman, Hilarious.
Mush On The Beach wrote:I doubt that you have a good one in you.
mellowmellor wrote:Can I shagg your girlfriend, I love your Woosie/Liberal attitude
Man up you moaners, we all expected to hammer them but credit where credits due and they were the better team and our 2nd goal was offside so we were lucky to grab a draw, why dont our fans sing as much much as Pompeys when we are getting promotion and they are going out of business ..COYR
Tell me truthfully, are you taller than 5 foot 4 inches cheeky one?
Linesman
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7:37pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Who or what is 'Rotheram'?
Bluebob wrote:Good night John Boy, good night Mary Ellin, good night Elizabeth and good night BOBBY BOB.
Mush on the beach, I;m afraid you are wrong, if we had broken all the rules as you suggest, we would have been further punished by the FL. The facts are that we played completely by the rules as regards loaning players, & all the other associated rules, just as your club did a few years ago but I don't denigrate your club for surviving as best you could under the circumstances, what really wrankles with you is the fact that it was one of those loanees that scored a brilliant first goal against you. Never mind, don't fret, you will still go up then you can concentrate on your own team's affairs rather than ours.
Sleep well on Waltons Mountain (where it’s aperfect world).
What really wrankles me here in reality (no offence Bob) is that the laws are an arrse, as you quite rightly take advantage of them.
But I the Mush say enough is enough. You are a repeat offender and should have been relegated. Remember Leeds, Luton, Rotheram, Chester, Plymouth. They did it and some were punished far worse than you.
Have you done the time for the crime Bob? .... I don’t think so!!!
Saintsayer II
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7:39pm Sat 7 Apr 12
the extra time added was not because of the substitution but because of the over enthusiastic fans who delayed the re-start by coming onto the pitch
Strasbourg Saint
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7:55pm Sat 7 Apr 12
Saintsayer II wrote:I have to say, I agree on both points.
To those that don't rate Guly Who should play instead? Things certainly got no better when SDR came on
the extra time added was not because of the substitution but because of the over enthusiastic fans who delayed the re-start by coming onto the pitch
Last week, Guly was just about the only player who didn't have a mare, today he seemed okay but not the best and he immediately gets flack.
I don't remember Rickie doing that much today.
As for the sub., at the time, I thought it was a touch of genious; sub Billy and get the fans on their feet to stir that little extra passion needed for the final minutes.
I doubt people would be talking about the sub. or Guly if the match had ended 2-1.
Btw, how much time did it take to get the idiots off the pitch? I was surprised there were 4 mins of added time.
loosehead
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9:39pm Sat 7 Apr 12
PTID1898 wrote:So when are you going to pay back all you owe in full or are you just going to ride it out maybe get a new owner he'll do a runner you don't want to,pay so you go into administration again.Anyway you've got Bournemouth to look forward to next year but will you keep your players?
q.what happend to to the cricket score?
q.what happend to putting the final nail in our coffin?
q.what happend to the supposedly best team in hamshire?
I will tell you the fact is that you are s**t you are mediocre championship team and always will be PUP,PTID
doos
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10:38am Sun 8 Apr 12
PUP
Bluepride
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12:10pm Sun 8 Apr 12
your support is awful
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3:00pm Sun 8 Apr 12
loosehead
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9:19pm Sun 8 Apr 12
doos wrote:But even the most ardent hater of Southampton know it was a separate company so how does this compare to your club?
My memory is not perfect but I am sure I saw something in the papers a few years ago about Southampton FC going into administration and trying to say it was a seperate company so they were not deducted 10 points. Kettle.... Black
PUP
Wasn't Southampton one of the companies who you owed money too & they lost it?
Pompey~Blue
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11:16am Mon 9 Apr 12
Pompey~Blue
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11:18am Mon 9 Apr 12
mellowmellor says...
3:20pm Sat 7 Apr 12