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Southampton FC unveil 2012/13 season ticket prices for Premier League
1:10pm Wednesday 23rd May 2012 in Saints News
By Dan Kerins, Digital Editor
Saints unveil season ticket prices for Premier League
SAINTS have today revealed how much fans will have to pay to watch their team in the Premier League.
Adult supporters renewing their tickets will pay between £695 and £495, depending on where they sit. Anyone interested in buying a new season ticket will have to pay between £780 and £555.
Compared to last season's ticket prices, the cheapest adult tickets have gone up by 30 per cent and the most expensive by 31 per cent.
This is despite the club playing 17 per cent fewer games at home when compared to the Football League (19 as opposed to 23), meaning the price-per-game has gone up by an even larger amount percentage-wise.
The biggest increase is faced by adult supporters sitting in of Chapel as only part of the stand is now classified as the family section - they are looking at a 51 per cent price increase from £380 to £575.
Fans who wish to purchase their season ticket via the club's instalment plan will have to pay a £50 administration fee.
Fans wishing to renew must do so between June 6 and June 30. Any later, and they will be forced to pay the prices laid down for new customers.
Anyone wishing to purchase a new season ticket can do so from July 2 until July 31.
Saints have yet to reveal how much tickets will be for individual matches, but has said there will be five gold games, seven silver and seven bronze.
The club has also changed how it charges booking fees. From now on, each ticket bought either online or in person at the ticket office will incur a fee of £1.50 and those bought via the telephone will have a fee of £2.50 levied on them.
The only way to avoid the charge is to pay by cash at the ticket office.
Previously, fans had been charged £3 per transaction, rather than per ticket.
Saints are believed to have had around 14,000 season ticket holders last season.
In a poll running on the Daily Echo website, 33 per cent of Saints supporters thought a fair price would be between £400 and £499, with 27 per cent settling for between £300 and £399 and 25 per cent for between £500 and £599.
Just 15 per cent were prepared to pay over £600.
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Renewals |
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Itchen Premium |
Kingsland Premium |
Centre | Wings/Goals | Family | |
| Adult | £695 | £675 | £625 | £575 | £495 |
| Concession | £695 | £675 | £535 | £470 | £325 |
| U17 | £695 | £675 | £425 | £305 | £215 |
| U11 | £695 | £675 | £185 | £140 | £100 |
| Disabled Adult | £495 | £495 | £495 | £495 | £495 |
| Disabled concession | £325 | £325 | £325 | £325 | £325 |
| Disabled U17 | £215 | £215 | £215 | £215 | £215 |
New tickets
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Itchen Premium |
Kingsland Premium |
Centre | Wings/Goals | Family | |
| Adult | £780 | £720 | £670 | £600 | £555 |
| Concession | £780 | £720 | £600 | £525 | £360 |
| U17 | £780 | £720 | £480 | £340 | £240 |
| U11 | £780 | £720 | £205 | £155 | £100 |
| Disabled Adult | £555 | £555 | £555 | £555 | £555 |
| Disabled Concession | £360 | £360 | £360 | £360 | £360 |
| Disabled U17 | £240 | £240 | £240 | £240 | £240 |
How Saints Compare to Premier League rivals
| Club | Cheapest | Dearest | Price per game* |
| Arsenal | £985 | £1,954 | £75 |
| Aston Villa | £295 | £580 | £30.50 |
| Chelsea | £750 | £1,250 | £65.80 |
| Everton | £399 | £560 | £29.50 |
| Fulham | £399 | £909 | £47.80 |
| Liverpool | £725 | £802 | £42.20 |
| Man City | £465 | £745 | £39.20 |
| Man Utd | £532 | £950 | £50 |
| Newcastle | £363 | £909 | £47.80 |
| Norwich | £471 | £532 | £28 |
| QPR | £499 | £949 | £50 |
| Reading | £525 | £595 | £50 |
| Saints | £495 | £780 | £41.05 |
| Stoke | £399 | £599 | £31.50 |
| Sunderland | £425 | £550 | £28.90 |
| Swansea | £427 | £550 | £25.20 |
| Tottenham | £725 | £1,845 | £87.90 |
| West Brom | £349 | £459 | £24.20 |
| West Ham | £600 | £850 | £44.70 |
| Wigan | £255 | £300 | £15.70 |
*Price per game is the cost of the most expensive season ticket divided by the number of games it covers. Some clubs offer season tickets which cover a small number of cup games as well as 19 Premier League matches.
Comments(179)
Lyn-Bn
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1:33pm Wed 23 May 12
jonny-shuttle
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1:39pm Wed 23 May 12
Bargain.
Hobson82
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1:40pm Wed 23 May 12
lambo83
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1:40pm Wed 23 May 12
Is that really what my loyalty to SFC in League 1 is really worth?!
Although I've been behind what Cortese has done to date, this point and the prices in general take the pee.
Daft Kerplunk
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1:40pm Wed 23 May 12
Let's move on up
dopplershift
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1:41pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford
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1:47pm Wed 23 May 12
Daft Kerplunk wrote:You have the best username EVER.
If we sell plenty then there will be good money in the coffers for new players and holding onto others we develop more easily...hopefully of course. Let's move on up
If we're serious about balanacing books AND attracting decent players we have to accept an increase and I don't think this is as bad as it could have been.
tamara1983
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1:49pm Wed 23 May 12
lambo83
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1:58pm Wed 23 May 12
tamara1983 wrote:Per game it's actually a 49.4% increase
last season a ticket in the northam was £466 for 23 games at a cost of £20.26 per match this season it is £575 for 19 games at 30.26 thats a whopping 33% increase still gonna get 1 hope we get good players for that increase
Portland Saint
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1:59pm Wed 23 May 12
ottostrasser
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1:59pm Wed 23 May 12
thebigtruthdog
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1:59pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777
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2:01pm Wed 23 May 12
george chivers
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2:01pm Wed 23 May 12
thebigtruthdog wrote:19 games.
hmmm....okay, seems fair enough for 38 games of joy and excitement... As i will mostly be unemployed this coming season, I shall invest in a ticket and have a right jolly od time. Bosh!
Walter K
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2:03pm Wed 23 May 12
george chivers
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2:06pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford wrote:Do you have a season ticket?
Daft Kerplunk wrote:You have the best username EVER.
If we sell plenty then there will be good money in the coffers for new players and holding onto others we develop more easily...hopefully of course. Let's move on up
If we're serious about balanacing books AND attracting decent players we have to accept an increase and I don't think this is as bad as it could have been.
Redrobbo
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2:12pm Wed 23 May 12
Shoong
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2:12pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:The Premier League? 'That calibre of football'? Remember, your not just paying to watch our players but the opposition teams as well and many say our PL is the best in the world.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
Glass half empty for you then!
LeroyJenkins
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2:12pm Wed 23 May 12
Shoong
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2:13pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:forgot to mention, can you let us know where you heard that the club is to be sold? Or is that just a complete guess ;) ?
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
anderoo
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2:14pm Wed 23 May 12
Also the instalment plan is payable over 7 months for renewals, with only 25% payment required upfront.
St Retford
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2:19pm Wed 23 May 12
george chivers wrote:I didn't last season for the first time in a long time, but I will get one this time.
St Retford wrote:Do you have a season ticket?Daft Kerplunk wrote: If we sell plenty then there will be good money in the coffers for new players and holding onto others we develop more easily...hopefully of course. Let's move on upYou have the best username EVER. If we're serious about balanacing books AND attracting decent players we have to accept an increase and I don't think this is as bad as it could have been.
Redrobbo
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2:20pm Wed 23 May 12
Shoong wrote:Liebherrs converted their loan to the club into shares. This in theory makes it easier for them to sell the club, so people have put two and two together and come up with five. There may be some substance in it, but it is pure speculation at the moment.If you wanted to put a different spin on it then you could equally make a case that they are showing their commitment to the club by converting loans to equity. I have heard rumours of Chinese syndicate wanting to buy us, but have nothing to substantiate that. I personally hope that the Liebherr family carry on the legacy of Markus and retain ownership. I would rather the club be owned by people who have shown integrity rather than by some of the bandits and chancers who have purchased other clubs.
bigfella777 wrote: Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.forgot to mention, can you let us know where you heard that the club is to be sold? Or is that just a complete guess ;) ?
miltonarcher
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2:21pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:You really are a bitter and twisted individual. Are you so jealous of SFC you have to come on here and spout your infantile rubbish. Perhaps in your sad and lonely life it gives you some sort of thrill. Go away and try supporting your own club.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
DasLiebherrTrain
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2:27pm Wed 23 May 12
SaintMax
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2:28pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford
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2:30pm Wed 23 May 12
SaintMax wrote:We're signing all of them? Blimey, £500 a season is an absolute SNIP.
The stakes are higher, the cost of running the club will be much higher, the quality of the teams that visit will be much higher.. entertainment wise you will see Rooney, Modric, Bale, Balotelli week in week out as opposed to I dont know who - much higher. It amazes me the people that demand a winning team, and promotions then whinge at the ramifacations. Cough up, enjoy us being where we havent for years, or go and cheer on a 2nd div team with cheaper prices
Redrobbo
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2:31pm Wed 23 May 12
UTS
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2:34pm Wed 23 May 12
Im led to believe they are now going to charge fans £1.50 to actually buy tickets from the ticket office ! bonkers.
I think we will struggle to get 20k for most games and so called Cat A teams, no more than 25k.
MGRA
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2:43pm Wed 23 May 12
mack chinnon
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2:47pm Wed 23 May 12
UTS wrote:Are you mad.
I think the prices are a sobering welcome to the Premier League. Despite a basic £50million per season coming into PL clubs they are still charging crazy prices. Over recent seasons fans only turned out at higher levels than expected as we were winning.
Im led to believe they are now going to charge fans £1.50 to actually buy tickets from the ticket office ! bonkers.
I think we will struggle to get 20k for most games and so called Cat A teams, no more than 25k.
Redrobbo
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2:50pm Wed 23 May 12
MGRA wrote:Because people are lazy! The instalments are only possible because of the new smartcard entry will allow the club to block the cards of anyone who doesn't pay. With the old tickets the system was abused by certain individuals who would claim to be Saints fans and then basically steal from the club by stopping their payments but not returning the ticket.
£50 admin fee !? Um.... you can borrow £500 over 9 months currently for a cost of just £35.... so why would anyone be stupid enough to pay that admin fee !?!?
BIg-Al
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2:52pm Wed 23 May 12
Redrobbo
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2:53pm Wed 23 May 12
Redrobbo wrote:just reread my email that is 1300 tickets( paying customers) per player per season.
Just did a quick calculation.If you average the players wages £15K per player per week that equates to £780K a year per player. If you average the revenue per seat at £600 per season.Then you need to sell 1300 seats per season just to pay the wages, that is without National Insurance.So with a squad of 25 (and it will be bigger than that because of players ages) then the ticket revenue will not even pay the players wages. On top of that you have everyone else working for the club, the cost of the stadium, the academy , travel and hotels , the list is endless and that is before we actually buy anyone. This shows why the Sky money is vital. My starting avergae wage per player is just a stab in the dark, but I don't think it will be a million miles away.
Itchen hero
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2:53pm Wed 23 May 12
george chivers
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3:15pm Wed 23 May 12
I will be renewing, but equally I will be looking forward to claiming my over 65 discount next season.
The position of Saints in the above ticket price league table is roughly where I guess Cortese would like us to be in the Premier League at the end of next season.
Lyn-Bn
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3:30pm Wed 23 May 12
LadySaint1975
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3:30pm Wed 23 May 12
StevieSteve
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3:35pm Wed 23 May 12
Lm once said hello to me
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3:36pm Wed 23 May 12
Hobson82
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3:36pm Wed 23 May 12
DasLiebherrTrain wrote:As I said the prices are MOSTLY based on local economy. West Ham are in London and Reading are very close to London, hence why there prices are so high. Look at poorer parts of the country like Newcastle and Sunderland, their season ticket prices are much more reasonable mainly because most of them are unemployed.
West Ham and Reading not cheap either! Saints cheaper than West Ham and price per game cheaper than Reading. Teams who get promoted to the Premier League initially require more investment than established teams... Just an observation.
Redrobbo
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3:37pm Wed 23 May 12
BIg-Al wrote:The Club is a business, any romantic idea that football clubs are anything other than that are from a byegone era when they were owned by the local butcher! The Club would have looked at the market and pitched the ticket prices at where they think they can sell them. A shopkeeper wont sell something for a pound if he can sell it for one pound fifty, but equally he has to compete with other businesses. We will now pay around £30 for a game of premiership football, that is probably on par with other forms of live entertainment, and cheaper than a night at the pub.
So £575 for a Northam renewal - but only £600 for a new seat in the Northam. ONLY £25 BONUS TO REPAY THE LOYALTY :( thanks for supporting us during the last 7 years of struggle -
WobblyCat
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3:40pm Wed 23 May 12
seany1966
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3:45pm Wed 23 May 12
legod7
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3:50pm Wed 23 May 12
saintsmurf96
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3:55pm Wed 23 May 12
franiow
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4:00pm Wed 23 May 12
miltonarcher
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4:01pm Wed 23 May 12
Lyn-Bn
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4:10pm Wed 23 May 12
saintsmurf96 wrote:Lucky you. Ours has gone up £195 each.
I'm happy with that an increase of £35 for x100 better quality footie!!!! Cheers cortese :)
Tevez888
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4:14pm Wed 23 May 12
As a STH I am happy with the price of a renewal at £575, I judged this to be about right and as such have the money to pay up front.
What I disagree with mostly is that I have been a STH for over 15years and my anger is over the last few years more than anything. I consider myself to have been incredibly loyal at a time when everyone else was shying away (plastic fans!). My point is that now we are Premier League and among the big boys, my loyalty has saved me all of £25 compared to a NEW STH.
I am disgusted at this and would complain if I thought it would get me anywhere. I feel badly treated by the Club at a time that I’ve witnessed heartbreak up to jubilation in our rise to the big time once more.
I am extremely happy with price, just not the saving I’m making.
Wouldn’t it have been nice for EVERY STH that was around while we were in League 1 up to now, to be told that we could have an extra 10% off or even a FREE Home Shirt for standing by the Club…. No such luck.
Redrobbo
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4:15pm Wed 23 May 12
sarfhamton
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4:20pm Wed 23 May 12
Hatman
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4:35pm Wed 23 May 12
ToastyTea
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4:45pm Wed 23 May 12
Jesus_02
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4:47pm Wed 23 May 12
My seat has gone from being "wings" to "center" because of this, meaning that my season ticket has gone up from £465 to £625. I.E £160. This was after it went up last season from £325 meaning an increase of very nearly 100% over two seasons. I cant be bothered to work out the difference in cost per game...its too depressing......I would love to get a season ticket...but it really is a big decision in a town called malice!
Lone Ranger.
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4:48pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
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milton road
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4:55pm Wed 23 May 12
The idea was to enter the premier league virtually debt free. Which makes sound sense.
We have people who run us who work on sound business sense.
The club in transfers and wages has to be self sufficient.
Okay prices have gone up but they are going to be comparable with most premier clubs. Did anyone really expect anything else?
There was this argument before last season if i remember.
Yet our average gate was well up.
Higher wages more expensive players, we compete or we go back down.
This is it the big time and we need to stay there.
Saintsayer II
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5:04pm Wed 23 May 12
lambo83
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5:05pm Wed 23 May 12
Redrobbo wrote:All very well and good but why do adults renewing in all other areas get either £45 / £85 as a gesture of their loyalty or 6.67% / 7.2% / 12.23% (depending on where they sit) but those sitting behind the goals or in the wings only get a £25 or 4.35% saving for their continued loyalty??
BIg-Al wrote: So £575 for a Northam renewal - but only £600 for a new seat in the Northam. ONLY £25 BONUS TO REPAY THE LOYALTY :( thanks for supporting us during the last 7 years of struggle -The Club is a business, any romantic idea that football clubs are anything other than that are from a byegone era when they were owned by the local butcher! The Club would have looked at the market and pitched the ticket prices at where they think they can sell them. A shopkeeper wont sell something for a pound if he can sell it for one pound fifty, but equally he has to compete with other businesses. We will now pay around £30 for a game of premiership football, that is probably on par with other forms of live entertainment, and cheaper than a night at the pub.
Am I not as good a fan as the others?
likewatchingbrazil
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5:07pm Wed 23 May 12
MGRA
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5:12pm Wed 23 May 12
ShakeyWiffles
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5:29pm Wed 23 May 12
LeTissLeGod
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5:31pm Wed 23 May 12
LeroyJenkins wrote:Totally agree with you mate
GOD EVERYONE STOP MOANING YEAH PRICES ARE GOING UP BUT IF WE WANT TO COMPETE WITH THE BEST, THE CLUB NEEDS TO GENERATE FURTHER INCOME, LETS STOP MOANING AND GET BEHIND THE BOYS
rednwhite42
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5:37pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT
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5:40pm Wed 23 May 12
Ted Rogers
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5:43pm Wed 23 May 12
Tevez888 wrote:You contradict yourself 'I'm happy - I'm disgusted'.
Happy and Unhappy! As a STH I am happy with the price of a renewal at £575, I judged this to be about right and as such have the money to pay up front. What I disagree with mostly is that I have been a STH for over 15years and my anger is over the last few years more than anything. I consider myself to have been incredibly loyal at a time when everyone else was shying away (plastic fans!). My point is that now we are Premier League and among the big boys, my loyalty has saved me all of £25 compared to a NEW STH. I am disgusted at this and would complain if I thought it would get me anywhere. I feel badly treated by the Club at a time that I’ve witnessed heartbreak up to jubilation in our rise to the big time once more. I am extremely happy with price, just not the saving I’m making. Wouldn’t it have been nice for EVERY STH that was around while we were in League 1 up to now, to be told that we could have an extra 10% off or even a FREE Home Shirt for standing by the Club…. No such luck.
So what would really make you happy if other people have to pay more than you to sit in the same seating watching the game.
Don't be so naive. You support a club because you wish to; no-one forces you, and here's some news, out of 30,000 people you're not special.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:43pm Wed 23 May 12
LeroyJenkins wrote:Give us a break, I reckon at these Prices we can afford a little bit of grumpiness if makes one feel better about it. Now I am moaning about people moaning about the moaners!
GOD EVERYONE STOP MOANING YEAH PRICES ARE GOING UP BUT IF WE WANT TO COMPETE WITH THE BEST, THE CLUB NEEDS TO GENERATE FURTHER INCOME, LETS STOP MOANING AND GET BEHIND THE BOYS
BowesSaint
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5:49pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford wrote:Oh not as bad as it could have been. I sit in the new 'premium'itchen with my 2 boys under 11. Last year we paid £800 and attended 39 matches. Our reward for our support - a 125% increase to £2085. Unbelievable!
Daft Kerplunk wrote:You have the best username EVER.
If we sell plenty then there will be good money in the coffers for new players and holding onto others we develop more easily...hopefully of course. Let's move on up
If we're serious about balanacing books AND attracting decent players we have to accept an increase and I don't think this is as bad as it could have been.
GHamilton
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6:03pm Wed 23 May 12
dopplershift wrote:Ah yes....i can assure you there will be a 30% increase in football quality....wether it will be 30% increase from us is another question!
30% increase. Hope there's a 30% increase in the quality of football as well.
Strasbourg Saint
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6:06pm Wed 23 May 12
Tevez888 wrote:Can understand your mixed feelings on this. There are a number of people who could probably 'justify' some kind of freebe, especially season ticket holders of recent years and the regular travelling faithful. It won't happen and it's probably a correct commercial decision.
Happy and Unhappy!
As a STH I am happy with the price of a renewal at £575, I judged this to be about right and as such have the money to pay up front.
What I disagree with mostly is that I have been a STH for over 15years and my anger is over the last few years more than anything. I consider myself to have been incredibly loyal at a time when everyone else was shying away (plastic fans!). My point is that now we are Premier League and among the big boys, my loyalty has saved me all of £25 compared to a NEW STH.
I am disgusted at this and would complain if I thought it would get me anywhere. I feel badly treated by the Club at a time that I’ve witnessed heartbreak up to jubilation in our rise to the big time once more.
I am extremely happy with price, just not the saving I’m making.
Wouldn’t it have been nice for EVERY STH that was around while we were in League 1 up to now, to be told that we could have an extra 10% off or even a FREE Home Shirt for standing by the Club…. No such luck.
In the end, we will all vote with our feet (and a little with our hearts).
It doesn't affect me because of where I live, what I earn, what else I have to prioritise and what I'd be prepared to pay.
In the end, along with most people on here, and accepting that seating and purchasing policies have altered and will affect some more than others, it seems about right.
If anyone is to 'blame' (big word that) for the 'high' price of a football ticket, it's probably those who take most money out of the game - the top-earning players, agents etc.
Probably the best way to justify it is to think like this:
Ballpark figure? £600 or so? That's, what? 200 pints?
In other words, one week's supply of beer for Slugger, Bill Seedhouse and RedArmy combined!
Bargain!
Baddesley Bill
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6:10pm Wed 23 May 12
Lyn-Bn wrote:Get a less expensive seat then...it's not rocket science.
saintsmurf96 wrote:Lucky you. Ours has gone up £195 each.
I'm happy with that an increase of £35 for x100 better quality footie!!!! Cheers cortese :)
BowesSaint
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6:11pm Wed 23 May 12
sarfhamton
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6:16pm Wed 23 May 12
Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:17pm Wed 23 May 12
Baddesley Bill
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6:21pm Wed 23 May 12
GHamilton
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6:22pm Wed 23 May 12
Golden_Salamander
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6:23pm Wed 23 May 12
Lyn-Bn wrote:Mine has also gone up 51% from £380 to £575, but this is mainly because they have returned most of the Chapel end to "wings/goal" from the "family centre", that it was clasified as for the last few years.
Just worked out our season ticket in the Chapel behind the goal has gone up a whopping 51%. I know we need to buy more players but with me getting no pay rise for 2 years, how are we supposed to find this sort of money?
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Back in Premier League days (again when the Chapel was NOT family centre) I was paying
2004/5 - £475
2003/4 - £444
2002/3 - £451
(I cannot find the receipt for 2005/6), so I was expect something between £550 and £600.
The £575 is a 21% increase since the Premier League days of 2004/5, which is about right imo.
Over the Edge
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6:25pm Wed 23 May 12
MGRA wrote:Not with Wonga loans you can't.
£50 admin fee !? Um.... you can borrow £500 over 9 months currently for a cost of just £35.... so why would anyone be stupid enough to pay that admin fee !?!?
StevieSteve
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6:27pm Wed 23 May 12
miltonarcher wrote:What's the point of that? We've got the whole of the Chapel, Kingsland and Itchen. Are we only aloud to be noisy in the Northam stand??
Surely its time to put the away fans in a different section, perhaps one of the corners, give over the whole of the Northam to Saints, we'll need all the help we can get in the Prem.
I hope the crowds bring back their singing voices cos the atmosphere is nothing like it was 7 years ago!
Over the Edge
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6:31pm Wed 23 May 12
I am well chuffed, all I have to do now is beg the Mrs to let go again lol.
slugger
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6:32pm Wed 23 May 12
Golden_Salamander wrote:was gonna post something similar , this is the way you need to be considering the prices , all in all they're about right imo .
Lyn-Bn wrote:Mine has also gone up 51% from £380 to £575, but this is mainly because they have returned most of the Chapel end to "wings/goal" from the "family centre", that it was clasified as for the last few years.
Just worked out our season ticket in the Chapel behind the goal has gone up a whopping 51%. I know we need to buy more players but with me getting no pay rise for 2 years, how are we supposed to find this sort of money?
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Back in Premier League days (again when the Chapel was NOT family centre) I was paying
2004/5 - £475
2003/4 - £444
2002/3 - £451
(I cannot find the receipt for 2005/6), so I was expect something between £550 and £600.
The £575 is a 21% increase since the Premier League days of 2004/5, which is about right imo.
Jesus_02
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6:34pm Wed 23 May 12
likewatchingbrazil wrote:Fair enough attitude, everything seems to be getting difficult these days! I can just about stetch to it this year, next will be a real problem as I have another boy on the way.
as a hard working man it will be difficult to afford the renew but i deserve it for being a worker and being there when we was not so good. so i'm getting it and good for me. coyr ipdy
This years ticket is in the balance because the group of guys that i go with all have different challenges, e. g redundancy and being able to make all the matches.
I think Cortese may have got it wrong for the last reason. The benefit in getting a season ticket financially has dropped considerably. That only leaves sentiment and that doesn't come cheaply at £625.
Verdict - probably will renew but its likely to be the last time!
slugger
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6:38pm Wed 23 May 12
saintmicky
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6:43pm Wed 23 May 12
Me and the nipper £600 last year renewal Kingsland block 30
This year £1350, Nothing like repaying loyalty, and I would have been happy to pay £600+ and maybe £300 for the nip.
steveyot
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7:04pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT
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7:07pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
Baddesley Bill
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7:13pm Wed 23 May 12
saintmicky wrote:Get another seat then...assuming "nipper" is under 11...£595 for family centre tickets...no problem for a prem season....and you save money...simples.
Oh good!!
Me and the nipper £600 last year renewal Kingsland block 30
This year £1350, Nothing like repaying loyalty, and I would have been happy to pay £600+ and maybe £300 for the nip.
King o' the Kingsland
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7:18pm Wed 23 May 12
As a 'loyal league 1 season ticketholder' myself I'm not fussed about the 25 quid saving being too low. The last three seasons have been effin brilliant, that was reward enough for remaining loyal through thick n thin!
Baddesley Bill
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7:21pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Gate payers stuck with the Club too...STH's get first choice for the plum seats and tickets (quite right too), but a minority of them think that they are owed something more for some reason...this attitude confuses me somewhat.
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
legod7
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7:23pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Move from Kingsland Premium to Kingsland Centre .
I feel as if I have been mugged 3 Adults (1 OAP) and 2 youngsters, in Kingsland Block 30, no concessions = £675-00 each, for less games. This will probably be my last chance of a Season Ticket as I retire in September and no way will I be able to renew in the future, so I have to make the most of this one. Not so much of a moan as I fully expected it, and I will renew somehow, couldn't miss the first Season back. Just hope we get some decent players in to justify the extra expense.
Simples
slugger
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7:24pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:this is true ..... i'm not having a dig , i just equate it to my local boozer , i pay the same for my beer as someone who just goes once ........ an awfull lot of businesses give the greatest discounts to first time buyers .
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
OSPREYSAINT
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7:26pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT
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7:29pm Wed 23 May 12
legod7 wrote:I could also go to Nottarf but I don't want or need to at the moment.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Move from Kingsland Premium to Kingsland Centre .
I feel as if I have been mugged 3 Adults (1 OAP) and 2 youngsters, in Kingsland Block 30, no concessions = £675-00 each, for less games. This will probably be my last chance of a Season Ticket as I retire in September and no way will I be able to renew in the future, so I have to make the most of this one. Not so much of a moan as I fully expected it, and I will renew somehow, couldn't miss the first Season back. Just hope we get some decent players in to justify the extra expense.
Simples
MGRA
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7:31pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT
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7:38pm Wed 23 May 12
legod7 wrote:Not sure but moving seat may equate to purchasing a new ST and may cost more? I like my seat and am prepared to bite the bullet to keep it, I reckon I am entitled to have a good moan about it, but I will get over it by the time of the first kick off! I am a bit disappointed that only "We are Premier League" flag that I have seen in my area is outside of my window, has no one else bothered to celebrate it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Move from Kingsland Premium to Kingsland Centre .
I feel as if I have been mugged 3 Adults (1 OAP) and 2 youngsters, in Kingsland Block 30, no concessions = £675-00 each, for less games. This will probably be my last chance of a Season Ticket as I retire in September and no way will I be able to renew in the future, so I have to make the most of this one. Not so much of a moan as I fully expected it, and I will renew somehow, couldn't miss the first Season back. Just hope we get some decent players in to justify the extra expense.
Simples
rocketone
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7:40pm Wed 23 May 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:200 pints between 4 blokes for a week ?
Tevez888 wrote:Can understand your mixed feelings on this. There are a number of people who could probably 'justify' some kind of freebe, especially season ticket holders of recent years and the regular travelling faithful. It won't happen and it's probably a correct commercial decision.
Happy and Unhappy!
As a STH I am happy with the price of a renewal at £575, I judged this to be about right and as such have the money to pay up front.
What I disagree with mostly is that I have been a STH for over 15years and my anger is over the last few years more than anything. I consider myself to have been incredibly loyal at a time when everyone else was shying away (plastic fans!). My point is that now we are Premier League and among the big boys, my loyalty has saved me all of £25 compared to a NEW STH.
I am disgusted at this and would complain if I thought it would get me anywhere. I feel badly treated by the Club at a time that I’ve witnessed heartbreak up to jubilation in our rise to the big time once more.
I am extremely happy with price, just not the saving I’m making.
Wouldn’t it have been nice for EVERY STH that was around while we were in League 1 up to now, to be told that we could have an extra 10% off or even a FREE Home Shirt for standing by the Club…. No such luck.
In the end, we will all vote with our feet (and a little with our hearts).
It doesn't affect me because of where I live, what I earn, what else I have to prioritise and what I'd be prepared to pay.
In the end, along with most people on here, and accepting that seating and purchasing policies have altered and will affect some more than others, it seems about right.
If anyone is to 'blame' (big word that) for the 'high' price of a football ticket, it's probably those who take most money out of the game - the top-earning players, agents etc.
Probably the best way to justify it is to think like this:
Ballpark figure? £600 or so? That's, what? 200 pints?
In other words, one week's supply of beer for Slugger, Bill Seedhouse and RedArmy combined!
Bargain!
7 pints a day?
or 2 or 3 weekday and a semi-serious drink at the weekend?
Season ticket is a bargain ! ! ! ! !
I'm getting one !
200 pints for 4 blokes for an away game? that seems a little more likely !
batesieboy
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7:40pm Wed 23 May 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I am a bit ashamed that you two post this. Whilst it is true that we are back in the Prem and have to pay for the privilege, those who have stuck by Saints through the poorer times ought to be rewarded. I really dislike the old Johnny-come-lately stuff even if they are welcome. They are also welcome if it all goes a bit pear-shaped. But you won't see them for dust.
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
STHB15
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7:45pm Wed 23 May 12
Hatman wrote:Hatman, good comment, I hope the whinging bloke behind me finds it too expensive as well.
It's a bigger increase than I expected but I will definitely renew. May mean have to think harder about going to so many away games. Just hope the whinger who sits behind me thinks it's too expensive and doesn't renew.
STHB15
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7:48pm Wed 23 May 12
LadySaint1975 wrote:LadySaint, not sure I follow the negative slant comment.
Typical Echo, trying to put a negative slant on it! My season ticket has gone from £465 to £575 and I was expecting more. Everybody I have spoken to is happy about the increase
I have re-read the article, seems to me they are just stating the facts.
STHB15
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7:48pm Wed 23 May 12
LadySaint1975 wrote:LadySaint, not sure I follow the negative slant comment.
Typical Echo, trying to put a negative slant on it! My season ticket has gone from £465 to £575 and I was expecting more. Everybody I have spoken to is happy about the increase
I have re-read the article, seems to me they are just stating the facts.
batesieboy
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7:49pm Wed 23 May 12
rocketone
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7:49pm Wed 23 May 12
Just think about all our hero lunatic away fans ! !
can you afford an away ticket to the Emirates? or are you hoping that game is on the telly ?
or a special/birthday/xma
s treat from some foolish relative?
now we will see how our team fares away without that fantastic support they have had for the last few years.
We all will have to chose very carefully which games we decide to invade !
OSPREYSAINT
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7:51pm Wed 23 May 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Nothing like wishful thinking is there? I admire all of those that stuck with us through thick and thin, I also welcome all the plastics and newcomers, the more the merrier joining the crusade is fine by me.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Gate payers stuck with the Club too...STH's get first choice for the plum seats and tickets (quite right too), but a minority of them think that they are owed something more for some reason...this attitude confuses me somewhat.
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
Dorssaints
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7:55pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger
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7:57pm Wed 23 May 12
batesieboy wrote:i was one of those customers ........... and as a "pay as you go" i pay more than a season ticket holder ........ so why don't i get cheaper tickets as i'm on the data base ? ......... at the end of the day we all pay our money , it's about supply and demand ...... my guess is nicola has got the balance right ..... we'll see come august .
Slugger...what kept that business, in business, was that customer. So say thank you. As your bruv would say, it's not rocket science.
Baddesley Bill
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7:58pm Wed 23 May 12
batesieboy wrote:The johny-come-latelys (which I am not btw) will still be paying more than you...and will be funding the future of our club..this is how a prem club is funded...like it or loathe it..that is how it is. If you think you deserve somekind of payback...then you are deluded...I trust you enjoyed the JPT day...Coventry game...Poopey game...Wham game...that was because the ST's got what they paid for...easy tickets for big games...pay back...to expect somekind of super-special treatment now is a little delusional now imo.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I am a bit ashamed that you two post this. Whilst it is true that we are back in the Prem and have to pay for the privilege, those who have stuck by Saints through the poorer times ought to be rewarded. I really dislike the old Johnny-come-lately stuff even if they are welcome. They are also welcome if it all goes a bit pear-shaped. But you won't see them for dust.
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
OSPREYSAINT
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7:59pm Wed 23 May 12
batesieboy wrote:I didn't say I liked it, I am a realist and have to face the facts, it's just my bad luck that the circumstances have changed and have resulted in a substantial increase in the area where I chose to sit, the Club have realised that it is a prime position in the Stadium and I have been privileged to be there during the good times, I now have to pay extra to remain there, that's life. Those that have stuck with us should be rewarded with better quality players, certainly the opposition will be better in most cases. That should be reward enough as long as we get some decent results and performances.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I am a bit ashamed that you two post this. Whilst it is true that we are back in the Prem and have to pay for the privilege, those who have stuck by Saints through the poorer times ought to be rewarded. I really dislike the old Johnny-come-lately stuff even if they are welcome. They are also welcome if it all goes a bit pear-shaped. But you won't see them for dust.
slugger wrote:Maybe it is because the loyal ST's that stuck in there through thick and thin thought they deserved a little reward for their loyalty, this doesn't work in a business that needs funds to sustain its future, charity butters no parsnips.
i don't get why existing sth's think they deserve to get them cheaper than a 1st time buyer , we're all customers at the end of the day !
OSPREYSAINT
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8:06pm Wed 23 May 12
batesieboy wrote:It's mostly seagull poo!
bigfella777 wrote:big smeller777...you stink of fish
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
Baddesley Bill
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8:07pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger
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8:11pm Wed 23 May 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:perhaps we can afford messi's wages now ! .,....... every cloud and all that .
For all those that feel agrieved...think of poor Seedhouse...his free bar deal ended last season...this is truely a catastrophy of epic proportions! ;O)
rocketone
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8:25pm Wed 23 May 12
randre
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8:39pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:You are a plank, do you ever have anything positive to say? I suggest you go back and support your own team, who is that by the way? Fair prices I say, consumer choice, you either buy or you don't. Your choice.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
For what I can see is that Southampton fc is now looking at sensible and ambitious building blocks to the club. We would soon wish things were different if we were to run into financial ruin like that lot down the road.
We pay our money and take the choice. The club is selling a product and if we continue to be entertained then it is money well spent.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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8:45pm Wed 23 May 12
worried of n e hampshire
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8:49pm Wed 23 May 12
only joking my ST had gone up 115 quid, a bit of a shock but I will cough up I kind of hoped I would have been rewarded for sticking through the dark days but hey-ho can't wait for the fixtures to come out. but why hammer the really hard up with a £50 charge for paying by instalments? that does hurt.
Baddesley Bill
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8:52pm Wed 23 May 12
randre wrote:randre...he is a seagull wum..ignore him. I'm still trying to work out what exactly Fatty is...or what he is on! :O)
bigfella777 wrote:You are a plank, do you ever have anything positive to say? I suggest you go back and support your own team, who is that by the way? Fair prices I say, consumer choice, you either buy or you don't. Your choice.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
For what I can see is that Southampton fc is now looking at sensible and ambitious building blocks to the club. We would soon wish things were different if we were to run into financial ruin like that lot down the road.
We pay our money and take the choice. The club is selling a product and if we continue to be entertained then it is money well spent.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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8:57pm Wed 23 May 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:I AM GOING SWISS ROLLMATE ARE YOU!
randre wrote:randre...he is a seagull wum..ignore him. I'm still trying to work out what exactly Fatty is...or what he is on! :O)
bigfella777 wrote:You are a plank, do you ever have anything positive to say? I suggest you go back and support your own team, who is that by the way? Fair prices I say, consumer choice, you either buy or you don't. Your choice.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
For what I can see is that Southampton fc is now looking at sensible and ambitious building blocks to the club. We would soon wish things were different if we were to run into financial ruin like that lot down the road.
We pay our money and take the choice. The club is selling a product and if we continue to be entertained then it is money well spent.
randre
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9:05pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger wrote:yes, agree. No problem with prices. Good post.
Golden_Salamander wrote:was gonna post something similar , this is the way you need to be considering the prices , all in all they're about right imo .
Lyn-Bn wrote:Mine has also gone up 51% from £380 to £575, but this is mainly because they have returned most of the Chapel end to "wings/goal" from the "family centre", that it was clasified as for the last few years.
Just worked out our season ticket in the Chapel behind the goal has gone up a whopping 51%. I know we need to buy more players but with me getting no pay rise for 2 years, how are we supposed to find this sort of money?
.
Back in Premier League days (again when the Chapel was NOT family centre) I was paying
2004/5 - £475
2003/4 - £444
2002/3 - £451
(I cannot find the receipt for 2005/6), so I was expect something between £550 and £600.
The £575 is a 21% increase since the Premier League days of 2004/5, which is about right imo.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:05pm Wed 23 May 12
Please add your comments !
worried of n e hampshire
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9:11pm Wed 23 May 12
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:if I had the wings of a sparrow,
Percy says if I was a blackbird I would whisle and sing.
Please add your comments !
if I gad the @rse of a crow,
you know the rest!
slugger
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9:18pm Wed 23 May 12
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:you missed out the "t" ....... best i can do at the mo ...... sorry :o)
Percy says if I was a blackbird I would whisle and sing.
Please add your comments !
Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:23pm Wed 23 May 12
Please follow the next verse up!
wild rupert
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9:27pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford
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9:30pm Wed 23 May 12
BowesSaint wrote:Maybe try different seats? I'm here to help...
St Retford wrote:Oh not as bad as it could have been. I sit in the new 'premium'itchen with my 2 boys under 11. Last year we paid £800 and attended 39 matches. Our reward for our support - a 125% increase to £2085. Unbelievable!
Daft Kerplunk wrote:You have the best username EVER.
If we sell plenty then there will be good money in the coffers for new players and holding onto others we develop more easily...hopefully of course. Let's move on up
If we're serious about balanacing books AND attracting decent players we have to accept an increase and I don't think this is as bad as it could have been.
St Retford
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9:31pm Wed 23 May 12
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:34pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger wrote:Don't, I'm seriously depressed! :(
Baddesley Bill wrote:perhaps we can afford messi's wages now ! .,....... every cloud and all that .
For all those that feel agrieved...think of poor Seedhouse...his free bar deal ended last season...this is truely a catastrophy of epic proportions! ;O)
wild rupert
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9:35pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
St Retford
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9:37pm Wed 23 May 12
wild rupert wrote:It's a date.
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
slugger
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9:39pm Wed 23 May 12
wild rupert wrote:i assume you'll pop back if it don't ?
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:42pm Wed 23 May 12
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
wild rupert
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9:45pm Wed 23 May 12
slugger wrote:Sure will mate and eat my humble pie
wild rupert wrote:i assume you'll pop back if it don't ?
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
mike saint
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9:46pm Wed 23 May 12
bigfella777 wrote:Your a cheap skate you should go and support the skint skates down the road. We are in the premier league with the top footballers in the world so pay up or shut up.
Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.
St Retford
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9:47pm Wed 23 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Because they're badly run. Some clubs - maybe even us - might have to accept that relegation is better than survival at any cost. West Brom are a pretty good role model in this respect.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:50pm Wed 23 May 12
wild rupert wrote:Sadly he may well be right.
slugger wrote:Sure will mate and eat my humble pie
wild rupert wrote:i assume you'll pop back if it don't ?
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
slugger
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9:51pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford wrote:i also notice that wigans season ticket prices (back on thread in an instant) are far and away the cheapest .......... is that sustainable in the prem with their gates ?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Because they're badly run. Some clubs - maybe even us - might have to accept that relegation is better than survival at any cost. West Brom are a pretty good role model in this respect.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
slugger
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10:03pm Wed 23 May 12
St Retford wrote:don't mind a bit of rugby union ..... rugby league is more stop start than american football (why do they call it football ?).
slugger wrote:It's not, but Wigan is a rugby town that can't fill a football stadium so it has little choice. We're definitely not a rugby town. (We weren't raised as tw@ts).
St Retford wrote:i also notice that wigans season ticket prices (back on thread in an instant) are far and away the cheapest .......... is that sustainable in the prem with their gates ?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Because they're badly run. Some clubs - maybe even us - might have to accept that relegation is better than survival at any cost. West Brom are a pretty good role model in this respect.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
St Retford
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10:04pm Wed 23 May 12
RedArmy1
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11:29pm Wed 23 May 12
SAINTS FANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND SUCCESS.
No-one wants to pay to see Saints lose or even draw without taking the fight to the Opposition.
WE FIGHT FOR EUROPEAN FOOTBALL. WE WILL SETTLE FOR NO LESS THAN TOP TEN FINISH.
WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
NIGEL - Get Key Players in and strengthen the Goalkeeping Squad - the Defence - another CB - Goal Scoring Midfielder with pace and another Striker (like Hooper)....
Do not let us struggle this Season due to lack of action in beefing up the Squad.
RED ARMY 2012. TOGETHER AS ONE - FIGHT !!!
randre
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11:34pm Wed 23 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Seedhouse, you have hit the nail on the head. Great post.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
Southampton fc is a business of entertainment, just because we are regular customers does not mean we are owed anything.
If you spend £150 per week on shopping in Your local shop or frequent the same theatre / concert venue they do not give a discount for loyalty.
hedge end bob
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12:35am Thu 24 May 12
hedge end bob
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12:35am Thu 24 May 12
Thesa1nt
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1:49am Thu 24 May 12
townieboy
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6:12am Thu 24 May 12
townieboy
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6:13am Thu 24 May 12
seventh-junction
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7:07am Thu 24 May 12
If that is the case then so be it and maybe someone would want to move to my original seats if I do have to move, which could be sorted with someone on here at the time.
I just know I will be supporting Saints next season in the best league in the world.......I'll say that again......THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD...just in case anyone doesn't yet realise where we are now.
COYR FOADP
seventh-junction
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7:10am Thu 24 May 12
If that is the case then so be it and maybe someone would want to move to my original seats if I do have to move, which could be sorted with someone on here at the time.
I just know I will be supporting Saints next season in the best league in the world.......I'll say that again......THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD...just in case anyone doesn't yet realise where we are now.
COYR FOADP
Strasbourg Saint
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8:02am Thu 24 May 12
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:.... take these broken hearts at Fraton Park.
Another song for you lot.Blackbird singing in the dead of night!
Please follow the next verse up!
All my life, I have only waited for this moment to arrive.
Strasbourg Saint
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8:03am Thu 24 May 12
rocketone wrote:These are no ordinary beer drinkers!
Strasbourg Saint wrote:200 pints between 4 blokes for a week ?
Tevez888 wrote:Can understand your mixed feelings on this. There are a number of people who could probably 'justify' some kind of freebe, especially season ticket holders of recent years and the regular travelling faithful. It won't happen and it's probably a correct commercial decision.
Happy and Unhappy!
As a STH I am happy with the price of a renewal at £575, I judged this to be about right and as such have the money to pay up front.
What I disagree with mostly is that I have been a STH for over 15years and my anger is over the last few years more than anything. I consider myself to have been incredibly loyal at a time when everyone else was shying away (plastic fans!). My point is that now we are Premier League and among the big boys, my loyalty has saved me all of £25 compared to a NEW STH.
I am disgusted at this and would complain if I thought it would get me anywhere. I feel badly treated by the Club at a time that I’ve witnessed heartbreak up to jubilation in our rise to the big time once more.
I am extremely happy with price, just not the saving I’m making.
Wouldn’t it have been nice for EVERY STH that was around while we were in League 1 up to now, to be told that we could have an extra 10% off or even a FREE Home Shirt for standing by the Club…. No such luck.
In the end, we will all vote with our feet (and a little with our hearts).
It doesn't affect me because of where I live, what I earn, what else I have to prioritise and what I'd be prepared to pay.
In the end, along with most people on here, and accepting that seating and purchasing policies have altered and will affect some more than others, it seems about right.
If anyone is to 'blame' (big word that) for the 'high' price of a football ticket, it's probably those who take most money out of the game - the top-earning players, agents etc.
Probably the best way to justify it is to think like this:
Ballpark figure? £600 or so? That's, what? 200 pints?
In other words, one week's supply of beer for Slugger, Bill Seedhouse and RedArmy combined!
Bargain!
7 pints a day?
or 2 or 3 weekday and a semi-serious drink at the weekend?
Season ticket is a bargain ! ! ! ! !
I'm getting one !
200 pints for 4 blokes for an away game? that seems a little more likely !
Strasbourg Saint
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8:06am Thu 24 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Nothing surprises me anymore, except, perhaps, some of the excuses for driving I witness daily on French roads.
wild rupert wrote:Sadly he may well be right.
slugger wrote:Sure will mate and eat my humble pie
wild rupert wrote:i assume you'll pop back if it don't ?
St Retford wrote:Wait and see then ill pop back on here to see your response then
wild rupert wrote:Give it up, Rupert. You're not running things anymore.
As I posted on other thread big changes coming ,new manager incoming . You ii all dismiss it but it's happening
Sainty saint saint
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8:42am Thu 24 May 12
I've been shopping at the same local shop for the last ten years. They've just increased their price for a pint of milk from 45p to 50p, and they expect ME to pay the same price as the geezer that's JUST MOVED IN next door.
It's crazy. Why aren't they rewarding my loyalty to the shop by letting me pay less than this johnny-come-lately? I stuck with them through the financial crisis when other shops were going under. My milk purchases through those dark times were keeping the business afloat - and now they have the AUDACITY to treat me like everyone else. Shame on them.
Maybe I'll start taking my coffee black - see how they like that!
stockysaint
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8:52am Thu 24 May 12
In just about any other business you loyal supporters would be paying £25 more not less.
I think you should be grateful to the club for a loyalty reward.
Before you all ask, not a STH as geography gets in the way.
Winman
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9:05am Thu 24 May 12
I'm really intrigued, however, by what else has been said on the official website. The are lots of mentions of 'The Southampton Way', in realtion to how the club has been planning and how it wants to progress. My reading of this is that it suggests that the Liebherrs are in for the long haul,but in terms of signing and producing players who 'buy in ' to a club which is always pulling in the same direction - a team that is bigger than any individual (QPR anyone?); an approach to football that is about winning well, rather than aiming for percentage results to 'ensure survival' (whatever that means).
This, for me, has the potential to be exciting and successful, with Saints paving the way without resorting to throwing big bucks at building a 'big name' team. I can imagine there will be lots of 'big names' at Southampton, like Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain who STAY!
I am looking forward to supporting 'The Southampton Way'!
PO191EE
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9:37am Thu 24 May 12
MGRA
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9:47am Thu 24 May 12
rractions you could spend money on...
Gossie.
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10:26am Thu 24 May 12
Don't agree with the booking fee at the window for using cards, the cost of processing a debit card is about 5p, so quite where £1.50 a ticket comes from I don't know.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:35am Thu 24 May 12
George4th
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11:32am Thu 24 May 12
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Most of the increase will go on players increased "Premiership" wages even before any money is spent on transfers...........
PO191EE
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11:39am Thu 24 May 12
Open open your eyes smell the fresh brewed coffee and this is from a Pompey Person wishing you all well !!
batesieboy
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12:20pm Thu 24 May 12
randre wrote:err, yes, they do. I have a Tesco Clubcard, Airmiles, Nectar, and knockdown prices at the Theatre for being a member.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Seedhouse, you have hit the nail on the head. Great post.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
Southampton fc is a business of entertainment, just because we are regular customers does not mean we are owed anything.
If you spend £150 per week on shopping in Your local shop or frequent the same theatre / concert venue they do not give a discount for loyalty.
batesieboy
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12:31pm Thu 24 May 12
Sainty saint saint wrote:A "club" is kind of different to a shop. Nobb Ed! I do not have a few beers with my mates before we all go to the shops together and sing songs supporting various brands of Porridge.
I am furious. Not about the season ticket price change but check this out:
I've been shopping at the same local shop for the last ten years. They've just increased their price for a pint of milk from 45p to 50p, and they expect ME to pay the same price as the geezer that's JUST MOVED IN next door.
It's crazy. Why aren't they rewarding my loyalty to the shop by letting me pay less than this johnny-come-lately? I stuck with them through the financial crisis when other shops were going under. My milk purchases through those dark times were keeping the business afloat - and now they have the AUDACITY to treat me like everyone else. Shame on them.
Maybe I'll start taking my coffee black - see how they like that!
insane saint
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1:01pm Thu 24 May 12
Gossie. wrote:go on pay the price i am and i am in the chapel end sod got a good repour with the guys round me. if you move you loose where you are from and your identity and the other to where you will go to will say here comes jonney come lately and they will call you a plastic fan. now do you want that.
I know we're now in the Prem, but I am a little disppointed in the pricing. Generally they don't look to bad, but for me personally in the Chapel an increase from £380 to £575 seems strong, so looks like I am going to have to move to the new family centre, assuming that I'm allowed to without kids.
Don't agree with the booking fee at the window for using cards, the cost of processing a debit card is about 5p, so quite where £1.50 a ticket comes from I don't know.
come on saints and the fans
WE ARE ONE PAY UP AND SUPPORT THE ONLY TEAM IN THE SOUTH THAT PLAY IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
LETS GO FOR EUROPE AND BEYOND
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
Sainty saint saint
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1:03pm Thu 24 May 12
batesieboy wrote:What a ridiculous argument.
Sainty saint saint wrote:A "club" is kind of different to a shop. Nobb Ed! I do not have a few beers with my mates before we all go to the shops together and sing songs supporting various brands of Porridge.
I am furious. Not about the season ticket price change but check this out:
I've been shopping at the same local shop for the last ten years. They've just increased their price for a pint of milk from 45p to 50p, and they expect ME to pay the same price as the geezer that's JUST MOVED IN next door.
It's crazy. Why aren't they rewarding my loyalty to the shop by letting me pay less than this johnny-come-lately? I stuck with them through the financial crisis when other shops were going under. My milk purchases through those dark times were keeping the business afloat - and now they have the AUDACITY to treat me like everyone else. Shame on them.
Maybe I'll start taking my coffee black - see how they like that!
lowe esteem
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1:16pm Thu 24 May 12
MGRA wrote:Support the club?- as you've said elsewhere...
£50 admin fee !? Um.... you can borrow £500 over 9 months currently for a cost of just £35.... so why would anyone be stupid enough to pay that admin fee !?!?
lowe esteem
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1:39pm Thu 24 May 12
Like I said before "Careful what you wish for"
Given that the season-ticket is only one of the 'lesser' income sources for our club,now that we're in the "promised land", I'm less than impressed, and guess that it's speculatively based on the numbers turning up already in the Championship.You will need an uplift on these numbers to be further reflected in shop, concourse and other sales. On this basis and having been a long- term Season Ticket Holder, and barring a large windfall, I am unlikely to be getting a new Season Ticket.
However, I will be able to car-share and afford a trip to The Stadium of Light whilst also being able to watch another side in Red and White Stripes, at less cost than St Marys.
ShakeyWiffles
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4:38pm Thu 24 May 12
skin2000
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10:15pm Thu 24 May 12
randre
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10:17pm Thu 24 May 12
batesieboy wrote:I said local shop, not Tescos..... My local venue does not offer discount, they have no need to as they pull in good entertainment... They know if people want to watch it, they will pay. It must be working as all the top shows are selling out and they are making a profit.
randre wrote:err, yes, they do. I have a Tesco Clubcard, Airmiles, Nectar, and knockdown prices at the Theatre for being a member.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Seedhouse, you have hit the nail on the head. Great post.
It's a lot of money for many people and I feel genuinely sorry for those who simply can't afford it. They will have to pick individual games which is a shame.
The number of games doesn't make a difference commercially as players earn what they earn per week and not per game.
Unfortunately a culture has grown up in football where so many fans of so many clubs expect their owners to bankroll their entertainment. We are all guilty of demanding this and that player, invariably the best ones and therefore expensive ones in terms of transfer fees and wages, yet we don't want an increase in our ticket prices. The two go together.
Take the skunts, the Few turn up in low numbers paying low prices but demanded players on up to 36k a week! Look what it has led to.
For all those that say the Prem is the promised land with all the TV money please tell me why Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan etc are drowning in debt?
Southampton fc is a business of entertainment, just because we are regular customers does not mean we are owed anything.
If you spend £150 per week on shopping in Your local shop or frequent the same theatre / concert venue they do not give a discount for loyalty.
randre
says...
10:28pm Thu 24 May 12
Nice to see the post from the Pompey fan earlier though, I think he was right and I bet he wishes Pompey were run with better business sense!
I for one am really excited about the future of our great club and will gladly pay to be part of it, but that is my choice.
Alty Saint
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12:15am Fri 25 May 12
Hobson82 wrote:Firstly it is not more expensive to live in Southampton than Manchester, Most of South Manchester is in Cheshire where the cost of living plus house prices far exceed Southampton prices ( I know because I live there and go to every home game) Season tickets at Man City seem reasonable but wait until you buy your away ticket next season for that match which will be at least £48.00 per person and two pies plus two beers will cost about £20 ( I know this as my daughter is a City fan and before you say it I know but she is moving out soon) Currently City are subsidising ticket prices and at Utd they get 75,000 most home games so can afford to charge less; with Wigan I think if they charged any more no one would go!
Looking at the comparisons above it does appear harsh especially when you compare us to Man City. But I think we pay the price because of where we live, it's more expensive to live down here than it is in Manchester so we have to accept that.
Footballfootballandmorefootball
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1:20pm Fri 25 May 12
hedge end bob
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7:23pm Fri 25 May 12
lowe esteem wrote:Thats if you can get a ticket, all away games are on sale to SEASON TICKET HOLDERS FIRST!!!!!!
Are those prices "sustainable"? Are all the other clubs prices up to date?
Like I said before "Careful what you wish for"
Given that the season-ticket is only one of the 'lesser' income sources for our club,now that we're in the "promised land", I'm less than impressed, and guess that it's speculatively based on the numbers turning up already in the Championship.You will need an uplift on these numbers to be further reflected in shop, concourse and other sales. On this basis and having been a long- term Season Ticket Holder, and barring a large windfall, I am unlikely to be getting a new Season Ticket.
However, I will be able to car-share and afford a trip to The Stadium of Light whilst also being able to watch another side in Red and White Stripes, at less cost than St Marys.
Last time we were in the Premiership an adult ticket for the season cost £444 in what they classed as the wings, it is now classed as centre stand.
Fatty x Ford Worker
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7:30pm Fri 25 May 12
Stuwills
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7:40pm Fri 25 May 12
Redrobbo wrote:It does not make it easier to sell the club.
Shoong wrote:Liebherrs converted their loan to the club into shares. This in theory makes it easier for them to sell the club, so people have put two and two together and come up with five. There may be some substance in it, but it is pure speculation at the moment.If you wanted to put a different spin on it then you could equally make a case that they are showing their commitment to the club by converting loans to equity. I have heard rumours of Chinese syndicate wanting to buy us, but have nothing to substantiate that. I personally hope that the Liebherr family carry on the legacy of Markus and retain ownership. I would rather the club be owned by people who have shown integrity rather than by some of the bandits and chancers who have purchased other clubs.
bigfella777 wrote: Not worth it to watch that calibre of football, there are no players on high wages so why are the tickets so expensive? I guess the Liebherrs want their money back quickly before they sell the club.forgot to mention, can you let us know where you heard that the club is to be sold? Or is that just a complete guess ;) ?
OSPREYSAINT
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9:18pm Fri 25 May 12
5cum 5cum 5cum wrote:You missed one, ha!
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OSPREYSAINT
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9:31pm Fri 25 May 12
PO191EE wrote:Better still come over and join us, at least until your lot are back on the straight and level!
It's good to read the positives butv there are a few negatives still creeping in you all know as Southampton Supporters it's for the best to be able to compete and to run as a business prices needed to be increased on average of 39%.
Open open your eyes smell the fresh brewed coffee and this is from a Pompey Person wishing you all well !!
pompey in spain
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10:29pm Fri 25 May 12
midlandsaint
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11:11pm Fri 25 May 12
But what I'm seeing is that people want the club to be loyal to them for having supported them and been season ticket holders.
Erm, we are back in the premier league folks. That is the reward for your loyalty. You support the club and the team and as a result our club is now back where it belongs. 28 April 2012 was the reward for your support. It is the only reward you should expect. It is the only reward that matters.
Now, hopefully, there are new goals to be set - consolidation and staying in the PL, climbing the table year on year, pushing for a European spot, top four, title!! And the club continues to need your support to achieve that.
Football is an expensive business and expecting the club to somehow reward you financially for your loyalty is frankly absurd. It would make it more difficult to compete at the level we want it to compete at.
I understand your frustrations, but we all love this club and want it to do the best it can, and when it does you will find your loyalty rewarded when you remember those days and can say 'I was there when...'
St Retford
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9:07am Sat 26 May 12
Alty Saint wrote:Heh. South Manchester also includes Stretford where you can get a mortgage for under £200 a month. This is how I can afford a season ticket. (And, erm, quite a lot of petrol.)
Hobson82 wrote:Firstly it is not more expensive to live in Southampton than Manchester, Most of South Manchester is in Cheshire where the cost of living plus house prices far exceed Southampton prices ( I know because I live there and go to every home game) Season tickets at Man City seem reasonable but wait until you buy your away ticket next season for that match which will be at least £48.00 per person and two pies plus two beers will cost about £20 ( I know this as my daughter is a City fan and before you say it I know but she is moving out soon) Currently City are subsidising ticket prices and at Utd they get 75,000 most home games so can afford to charge less; with Wigan I think if they charged any more no one would go!
Looking at the comparisons above it does appear harsh especially when you compare us to Man City. But I think we pay the price because of where we live, it's more expensive to live down here than it is in Manchester so we have to accept that.
Mush On The Beach
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4:07pm Sat 26 May 12
pompey in spain wrote:Skint Skunt in Spain as obviously someone new to the feeling of reality let me explain something ... you are few and getting fewer, and the infighting of PCC and Chainrai’s will ensure nobody buys a ticket at Farton .. bet on Poopey for instant relegation AGAIN, we will ... here endith the lesson!
ospreysaint!!! as obviously someone new to football and new to a club let me explain something..you pick a team or betterstill support your home team and you stick with em through thick and thin.in your case dont buy a season ticket put the money to better use...bet on s.f.c. for relegation your family will have a nice chirstmas cos it will be certain by then..here endith the lesson!
Future festive greetings to you and your family, we’ve always thought of you poor Blue feckers less fortunate than ourselves in the season of good will.

St Retford says...
1:25pm Wed 23 May 12