Southampton 'make £6m-plus offer' for Jay Rodriguez claim reports

Jay Rodriguez (left)

Jay Rodriguez (left)

First published in Saints News

Saints have reportedly offered in excess of £6m for Burnley striker Jay Rodriguez.

Nigel Adkins failed in his pursuit to sign the highly-rated forward during last summer's transfer window, but it appears the club have now gone back in for the 22-year-old as they look to strengthen the squad for their Premier League return.

The Clarets are ideally hoping to receive £8m for the player, who has one year left to run on his contract, but were said to be mulling over the offer from Saints, according to reports from Lancashire.

However, this afternoon Burnley's head of media, Darren Bentley, claimed the club had received no bids for the young striker, who is also said to be attracting the attention of Sam Allardyce at West Ham.

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10:19am Thu 24 May 12

WobblyCat says...

Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!!
Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!! WobblyCat
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10:22am Thu 24 May 12

RedArmy1 says...

Good Move.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY
Good Move. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY RedArmy1
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10:23am Thu 24 May 12

dualsy says...

But we need more pace nige.
?
C.O.Y.R
But we need more pace nige. ? C.O.Y.R dualsy
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10:38am Thu 24 May 12

george chivers says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!!
In the Prem clubs need 5 strikers who can be rotated on a regular basis. Anything less than that will not take care of injuries, suspensions or loss of form. Especially if you are not a top ten team, which I don't think we will be.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!![/p][/quote]In the Prem clubs need 5 strikers who can be rotated on a regular basis. Anything less than that will not take care of injuries, suspensions or loss of form. Especially if you are not a top ten team, which I don't think we will be. george chivers
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10:38am Thu 24 May 12

St Retford says...

"reportedly"
"reportedly" St Retford
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10:40am Thu 24 May 12

dennytg says...

How many goals did he score in open play ? How many were penalties ?
If Rickie remains our penalty taker, what will the overall gain to Saints be ?
Championship form is not the Premiership.
How many goals did he score in open play ? How many were penalties ? If Rickie remains our penalty taker, what will the overall gain to Saints be ? Championship form is not the Premiership. dennytg
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10:40am Thu 24 May 12

allsaintsnocurves says...

Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly.
I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen. allsaintsnocurves
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10:41am Thu 24 May 12

saintssaintssaints says...

Lambert, Jay, Billy, Lee and then Hooper - nice.

The pace will come from the wings, I would expect offers for Ince an Phillips - possible Jarvis if we can get him.
Lambert, Jay, Billy, Lee and then Hooper - nice. The pace will come from the wings, I would expect offers for Ince an Phillips - possible Jarvis if we can get him. saintssaintssaints
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10:41am Thu 24 May 12

saintssaintssaints says...

Lambert, Jay, Billy, Lee and then Hooper - nice.

The pace will come from the wings, I would expect offers for Ince an Phillips - possible Jarvis if we can get him.
Lambert, Jay, Billy, Lee and then Hooper - nice. The pace will come from the wings, I would expect offers for Ince an Phillips - possible Jarvis if we can get him. saintssaintssaints
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10:43am Thu 24 May 12

hedge end bob says...

Nothing on the REAL NEWS PAGE, SAINTS WEB SITE. Still it will sell a few more papers.
IMO not worth it, for that money you could get a premier experienced player, example the yak , but only as an example.
Nothing on the REAL NEWS PAGE, SAINTS WEB SITE. Still it will sell a few more papers. IMO not worth it, for that money you could get a premier experienced player, example the yak , but only as an example. hedge end bob
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10:46am Thu 24 May 12

Tubbystubb says...

I know he's a proven goal scorer at the lower levels, but can he cut it in the prem.

Personally I'd prefer someone with proven premiership goal scoring ability, but never the less In NC and NA I trust.

Thinking about it with Sir Rickie supplying the flick on's for Rodrigues or Sharp we should be able to score a hatful of goals no matter who plays, or better yet if BOTH play either side of Rickie in a three man attack the opposition defence would be s******g themselves and I've no doubt this would catch a few teams by surprise.
I know he's a proven goal scorer at the lower levels, but can he cut it in the prem. Personally I'd prefer someone with proven premiership goal scoring ability, but never the less In NC and NA I trust. Thinking about it with Sir Rickie supplying the flick on's for Rodrigues or Sharp we should be able to score a hatful of goals no matter who plays, or better yet if BOTH play either side of Rickie in a three man attack the opposition defence would be s******g themselves and I've no doubt this would catch a few teams by surprise. Tubbystubb
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10:47am Thu 24 May 12

bigfella777 says...

Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.
Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete. bigfella777
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10:51am Thu 24 May 12

townieboy says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.
Full backs are a must not forwards............
.wake up nigel
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.[/p][/quote]Full backs are a must not forwards............ .wake up nigel townieboy
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10:53am Thu 24 May 12

Confucious says...

At £6 million that's roughly the income from 10,000 season ticket sales - and that's before his wages.

Phew - puts another persepective on the season ticket price debate.
At £6 million that's roughly the income from 10,000 season ticket sales - and that's before his wages. Phew - puts another persepective on the season ticket price debate. Confucious
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10:54am Thu 24 May 12

saintssaintssaints says...

We need two strikers:
Jay and Hooper.
At least 2 pacey wingers:
1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly.
1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner.
1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates.
1 goalie - young talented englishman
Thats 7 players.

Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well.

1st team something like:
Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER.
Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players.
Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc

Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.
We need two strikers: Jay and Hooper. At least 2 pacey wingers: 1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly. 1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner. 1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates. 1 goalie - young talented englishman Thats 7 players. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well. 1st team something like: Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER. Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players. Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m. saintssaintssaints
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10:58am Thu 24 May 12

derbydog says...

Eddie Howe is thought to like Lee Barnard so it could be £6M plus Barnard (and another player?). Lambert/Rodriguez as big man and substutute big man; Sharp/Lee as second striker and replacement second striker. Hooper has got his Champions League football and a pay rise so he ain't coming...
Eddie Howe is thought to like Lee Barnard so it could be £6M plus Barnard (and another player?). Lambert/Rodriguez as big man and substutute big man; Sharp/Lee as second striker and replacement second striker. Hooper has got his Champions League football and a pay rise so he ain't coming... derbydog
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11:02am Thu 24 May 12

saintssaintssaints says...

derbydog wrote:
Eddie Howe is thought to like Lee Barnard so it could be £6M plus Barnard (and another player?). Lambert/Rodriguez as big man and substutute big man; Sharp/Lee as second striker and replacement second striker. Hooper has got his Champions League football and a pay rise so he ain't coming...
When did Hooper sign a new contract? I dont think he has.

If not, we still need a poven goalscorer in prem or elsewhere. Like Yak.
[quote][p][bold]derbydog[/bold] wrote: Eddie Howe is thought to like Lee Barnard so it could be £6M plus Barnard (and another player?). Lambert/Rodriguez as big man and substutute big man; Sharp/Lee as second striker and replacement second striker. Hooper has got his Champions League football and a pay rise so he ain't coming...[/p][/quote]When did Hooper sign a new contract? I dont think he has. If not, we still need a poven goalscorer in prem or elsewhere. Like Yak. saintssaintssaints
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11:06am Thu 24 May 12

derbydog says...

Swansea and Norwich (and others before them) went in to the Premier League with proven Championship goalscorers they thought could make the step up. Lambert , Rodriguez and Sharp were the top three goalscorers in the division last season.
Swansea and Norwich (and others before them) went in to the Premier League with proven Championship goalscorers they thought could make the step up. Lambert , Rodriguez and Sharp were the top three goalscorers in the division last season. derbydog
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11:15am Thu 24 May 12

Bigrich1980 says...

i am not so sure that £6 million is a good price, we are talking about a player that has a year to run on his contract, he should be available for half that price as he is into the last year, we dont want to pay over the odds for players that might not cut it.
i am not so sure that £6 million is a good price, we are talking about a player that has a year to run on his contract, he should be available for half that price as he is into the last year, we dont want to pay over the odds for players that might not cut it. Bigrich1980
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11:18am Thu 24 May 12

Walter K says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!!
Former Burnley striker currently at Wolves - Steven Fletcher.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!![/p][/quote]Former Burnley striker currently at Wolves - Steven Fletcher. Walter K
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11:18am Thu 24 May 12

Tubbystubb says...

Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press.
We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed.
Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation!
Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.
Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press. We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed. Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation! Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here. Tubbystubb
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11:46am Thu 24 May 12

up saints says...

Tubbystubb wrote:
Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press.
We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed.
Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation!
Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.
just about the add the same you saved me the job.can;t see us playing 6m plus anyway.we will pick up the josh and lee of this world
[quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press. We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed. Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation! Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.[/p][/quote]just about the add the same you saved me the job.can;t see us playing 6m plus anyway.we will pick up the josh and lee of this world up saints
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11:48am Thu 24 May 12

Ciaran says...

Tubbystubb wrote:
Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press.
We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed.
Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation!
Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.
Except Billy Sharp, Tadanari Lee, Jack Cork, Danny Fox and Jos Hooiveld were all reported in the Echo before they joined Saints.

NC ain't that good at keeping things quiet!
[quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press. We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed. Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation! Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.[/p][/quote]Except Billy Sharp, Tadanari Lee, Jack Cork, Danny Fox and Jos Hooiveld were all reported in the Echo before they joined Saints. NC ain't that good at keeping things quiet! Ciaran
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11:49am Thu 24 May 12

BlandfordSaint says...

saintssaintssaints wrote:
We need two strikers: Jay and Hooper. At least 2 pacey wingers: 1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly. 1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner. 1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates. 1 goalie - young talented englishman Thats 7 players. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well. 1st team something like: Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER. Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players. Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.
Great call

Javis and Phillips will do me

Davis in midfield

Davies at the back

Schmeichael in goal

COYR
[quote][p][bold]saintssaintssaints[/bold] wrote: We need two strikers: Jay and Hooper. At least 2 pacey wingers: 1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly. 1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner. 1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates. 1 goalie - young talented englishman Thats 7 players. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well. 1st team something like: Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER. Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players. Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.[/p][/quote]Great call Javis and Phillips will do me Davis in midfield Davies at the back Schmeichael in goal COYR BlandfordSaint
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11:54am Thu 24 May 12

batesieboy says...

If I were Roriguez I would be tempted to stay another season at Burnley...then be free to negotiate a 5 million quid signing-on fee to whoever wants him.(Should I be an agent?)
If I were Roriguez I would be tempted to stay another season at Burnley...then be free to negotiate a 5 million quid signing-on fee to whoever wants him.(Should I be an agent?) batesieboy
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12:00pm Thu 24 May 12

St Gary says...

What about Reo-Coker in midfield as Bolton have released him. Also Craig Gorden would oush Davis to be even better than he has been this season. IMO some good players have been released by clubs and could do a good job for us
What about Reo-Coker in midfield as Bolton have released him. Also Craig Gorden would oush Davis to be even better than he has been this season. IMO some good players have been released by clubs and could do a good job for us St Gary
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12:07pm Thu 24 May 12

Sainty saint saint says...

Not Reo-Coker please - he's unsettled the dressing room everywhere he's been and he's mercenary.

I'm not sure that $6mill for J-Rod is a good deal either - quite a gamble.
Not Reo-Coker please - he's unsettled the dressing room everywhere he's been and he's mercenary. I'm not sure that $6mill for J-Rod is a good deal either - quite a gamble. Sainty saint saint
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12:10pm Thu 24 May 12

D4n1el says...

interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/18
182424
interesting... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/18 182424 D4n1el
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12:12pm Thu 24 May 12

Ciaran says...

D4n1el wrote:
interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/18

182424
That was posted last night, so I guess we can suppose the bid was made this morning?
[quote][p][bold]D4n1el[/bold] wrote: interesting... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/18 182424[/p][/quote]That was posted last night, so I guess we can suppose the bid was made this morning? Ciaran
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12:13pm Thu 24 May 12

Supersaintz says...

We should be making a move for Kalou and Bosingwa who will be released from Chelsea. Yeah ok the wages would be high but both are proven performers in the premier league. Stick them both on the right hand side of the pitch and we would be looking at a hell of a better looking team straight away....
We should be making a move for Kalou and Bosingwa who will be released from Chelsea. Yeah ok the wages would be high but both are proven performers in the premier league. Stick them both on the right hand side of the pitch and we would be looking at a hell of a better looking team straight away.... Supersaintz
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12:36pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

If we sign him, we will sell Guly... In mathematics I trust...
If we sign him, we will sell Guly... In mathematics I trust... MGRA
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12:54pm Thu 24 May 12

SaintsJosh says...

He didn't do any out the ordinary when he played at st Mary's
He didn't do any out the ordinary when he played at st Mary's SaintsJosh
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12:59pm Thu 24 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:04pm Thu 24 May 12

Just another reader says...

Jordan Sibley quoted on twitter as saying no bids have been made.
Jordan Sibley quoted on twitter as saying no bids have been made. Just another reader
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1:07pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
20-25Million.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?[/p][/quote]20-25Million. MGRA
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1:21pm Thu 24 May 12

Condor Man says...

chuck in a makeweight like Lee Barnard to push the deal through.
chuck in a makeweight like Lee Barnard to push the deal through. Condor Man
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1:27pm Thu 24 May 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted. arthur dalyrimple
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1:32pm Thu 24 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
20-25Million.
That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?[/p][/quote]20-25Million.[/p][/quote]That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:48pm Thu 24 May 12

Alicesdad says...

Just as I thought we had some news I see it is caveated with the usual mystified denials.

The price does seem a bit high but I leave that to the wise heads with the deep pockets.

I also noted some comments here about Barnard. I think it is unwise to call him a "make weight" . I think he's much better than people acknowledge and should attract a much more significant fee. We will lose cash if we let him go as "part of a deal" . I am sure NC will not overlook this point.
Just as I thought we had some news I see it is caveated with the usual mystified denials. The price does seem a bit high but I leave that to the wise heads with the deep pockets. I also noted some comments here about Barnard. I think it is unwise to call him a "make weight" . I think he's much better than people acknowledge and should attract a much more significant fee. We will lose cash if we let him go as "part of a deal" . I am sure NC will not overlook this point. Alicesdad
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1:48pm Thu 24 May 12

jonny-shuttle says...

how about berbatov?
how about berbatov? jonny-shuttle
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1:50pm Thu 24 May 12

Egomaniac says...

I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone? Egomaniac
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1:51pm Thu 24 May 12

Thesa1nt says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
Barton, Rob Green! That's a joke right?
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]Barton, Rob Green! That's a joke right? Thesa1nt
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1:51pm Thu 24 May 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
20-25Million.
That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.
I'd make them play for free..... they'd do it for the honour.

It's the new Southampton way!

It would be like watching the gladiators in ancient Rome and, if they performed well, the fans could chuck money at them.....


....... oh!!! Now it sounds more like the Rhino Club!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?[/p][/quote]20-25Million.[/p][/quote]That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.[/p][/quote]I'd make them play for free..... they'd do it for the honour. It's the new Southampton way! It would be like watching the gladiators in ancient Rome and, if they performed well, the fans could chuck money at them..... ....... oh!!! Now it sounds more like the Rhino Club! Strasbourg Saint
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1:53pm Thu 24 May 12

Thesa1nt says...

jonny-shuttle wrote:
how about berbatov?
No way, he's just a name. Lazy, slack and no doubt overpriced
[quote][p][bold]jonny-shuttle[/bold] wrote: how about berbatov?[/p][/quote]No way, he's just a name. Lazy, slack and no doubt overpriced Thesa1nt
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1:56pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
20-25Million.
That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.
of course it was , it was the reason we got relegated, average players on stupid contracts... £20-£25M for 12/13, £25-30M for 13/14, and assuming a bigger capacity by 14/15 , then £30-£40M. Sounds reasonable to me given our current squad and the likely make-up of our squad in the coming couple of years...
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?[/p][/quote]20-25Million.[/p][/quote]That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.[/p][/quote]of course it was , it was the reason we got relegated, average players on stupid contracts... £20-£25M for 12/13, £25-30M for 13/14, and assuming a bigger capacity by 14/15 , then £30-£40M. Sounds reasonable to me given our current squad and the likely make-up of our squad in the coming couple of years... MGRA
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2:00pm Thu 24 May 12

Alicesdad says...

Good idea, but can you really see him wanting to come south to a club that has only just come up?

In any event there would be the clubs with stupid budgets who would simply outbid us.

I doubt we will get any of the so called "big" names down here until we have been up for more than a season. We are only likely to be fishing in the "sensible" ponds at home and maybe we will pick up some true quality from abroad . Good luck to Nigel though, the whole thing must be like buying from a "nearly new" stall at a school jumble sale.

Best of luck Nigel !!
Good idea, but can you really see him wanting to come south to a club that has only just come up? In any event there would be the clubs with stupid budgets who would simply outbid us. I doubt we will get any of the so called "big" names down here until we have been up for more than a season. We are only likely to be fishing in the "sensible" ponds at home and maybe we will pick up some true quality from abroad . Good luck to Nigel though, the whole thing must be like buying from a "nearly new" stall at a school jumble sale. Best of luck Nigel !! Alicesdad
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2:06pm Thu 24 May 12

Ted Rogers says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.
If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.[/p][/quote]If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket. Ted Rogers
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2:08pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Good idea, but can you really see him wanting to come south to a club that has only just come up?

In any event there would be the clubs with stupid budgets who would simply outbid us.

I doubt we will get any of the so called "big" names down here until we have been up for more than a season. We are only likely to be fishing in the "sensible" ponds at home and maybe we will pick up some true quality from abroad . Good luck to Nigel though, the whole thing must be like buying from a "nearly new" stall at a school jumble sale.

Best of luck Nigel !!
bigger names all depends on the story that people hear about Saints and what the plans are for the club...if the vibe is good then certain players would take a punt... obviously many players are just greedy money grabbing sh1tes with no soul,loyalty or integrity but there are some true human beings out there who will put their faith in certain managers and go on a certain journey. who knows.....
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Good idea, but can you really see him wanting to come south to a club that has only just come up? In any event there would be the clubs with stupid budgets who would simply outbid us. I doubt we will get any of the so called "big" names down here until we have been up for more than a season. We are only likely to be fishing in the "sensible" ponds at home and maybe we will pick up some true quality from abroad . Good luck to Nigel though, the whole thing must be like buying from a "nearly new" stall at a school jumble sale. Best of luck Nigel !![/p][/quote]bigger names all depends on the story that people hear about Saints and what the plans are for the club...if the vibe is good then certain players would take a punt... obviously many players are just greedy money grabbing sh1tes with no soul,loyalty or integrity but there are some true human beings out there who will put their faith in certain managers and go on a certain journey. who knows..... MGRA
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2:11pm Thu 24 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:19pm Thu 24 May 12

Ted Rogers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Egomaniac wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.
Worryingly our biggest lack of pace is in our defence.
Picture Nani, Lennon, Cole, Ballotelli, Cisse et al running at Fraser Richardson and Dan Fox!
Jos and Jose will encounter movement from forwards that they've never experienced in their lives - Massive task lies ahead for an experienced coach!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.[/p][/quote]Worryingly our biggest lack of pace is in our defence. Picture Nani, Lennon, Cole, Ballotelli, Cisse et al running at Fraser Richardson and Dan Fox! Jos and Jose will encounter movement from forwards that they've never experienced in their lives - Massive task lies ahead for an experienced coach! Ted Rogers
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2:59pm Thu 24 May 12

milton road says...

rodrigues plays wide as well on the flank
rodrigues plays wide as well on the flank milton road
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3:01pm Thu 24 May 12

Over the Edge says...

Personally I'd rather they went for the Jordan Rhodes but not for silly money, I think Rodriguez, is a good player but not worth £6 million though, leave him to Wetspam.

Rhodes however will be I think cheaper especially if Huddersfield don't make the Championship on Saturday, possibly with Barnard going the other way, with respect to Lee Clark and Simon Grayson Rhodes will get better at Saints.

The Ince lad at Blackpool is right up there with those on my list, maybe cash plus swap Puncheon deal could be done.

Centre back for Fonte (I worry about him) is needed, Craig Gordon would be an excellent back up to JD, another 2 central midfielders and 2 strikers.

Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon, Hammond, Guly.

Other than that we are in pretty good shape
Personally I'd rather they went for the Jordan Rhodes but not for silly money, I think Rodriguez, is a good player but not worth £6 million though, leave him to Wetspam. Rhodes however will be I think cheaper especially if Huddersfield don't make the Championship on Saturday, possibly with Barnard going the other way, with respect to Lee Clark and Simon Grayson Rhodes will get better at Saints. The Ince lad at Blackpool is right up there with those on my list, maybe cash plus swap Puncheon deal could be done. Centre back for Fonte (I worry about him) is needed, Craig Gordon would be an excellent back up to JD, another 2 central midfielders and 2 strikers. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon, Hammond, Guly. Other than that we are in pretty good shape Over the Edge
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3:07pm Thu 24 May 12

dopplershift says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
Wayne Bridge? Sorry but he was and always will be overrated. A nice player but there's something very Tyro league about the way he kicks the ball (which is always backwards BTW) and in my opinion not better than Fox. I think his name proceeded him and then he's been found out at every club.
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Owen wouldn't be in it for the long haul and I'd guarantee NC wouldn't pay more than a quid for a player as injury prone as him as it's not an investment. If he brought his wages down to less than £20k per week and was on a free it would be worth a second glance but we all know he is only in it for the money.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]Wayne Bridge? Sorry but he was and always will be overrated. A nice player but there's something very Tyro league about the way he kicks the ball (which is always backwards BTW) and in my opinion not better than Fox. I think his name proceeded him and then he's been found out at every club. . Owen wouldn't be in it for the long haul and I'd guarantee NC wouldn't pay more than a quid for a player as injury prone as him as it's not an investment. If he brought his wages down to less than £20k per week and was on a free it would be worth a second glance but we all know he is only in it for the money. dopplershift
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3:25pm Thu 24 May 12

PO191EE says...

Im sure that NA NC know exactly what they are doing it's ok for you lads to say we needs this one we need that one , but the logistics in all of this is down to finances and also if you have listened in the past who can fit into the style that saints have been come a customed too . Until you guys know for sure who they have signed let the profesionals get on with who they need to support and improve and be able to work with the lads whilst you lot just babbler on moaning and groaning.

The importance is that your a team in the Prem and be lucky that you can have a good first season like Norwich they build the follow ing season to bacome stronger !!!!!!!!
Im sure that NA NC know exactly what they are doing it's ok for you lads to say we needs this one we need that one , but the logistics in all of this is down to finances and also if you have listened in the past who can fit into the style that saints have been come a customed too . Until you guys know for sure who they have signed let the profesionals get on with who they need to support and improve and be able to work with the lads whilst you lot just babbler on moaning and groaning. The importance is that your a team in the Prem and be lucky that you can have a good first season like Norwich they build the follow ing season to bacome stronger !!!!!!!! PO191EE
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4:10pm Thu 24 May 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution. ShakeyWiffles
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4:37pm Thu 24 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.
If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.
Smart Cards are quite tasty I believe, but take some chewing.
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.[/p][/quote]If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.[/p][/quote]Smart Cards are quite tasty I believe, but take some chewing. OSPREYSAINT
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4:38pm Thu 24 May 12

hedge end bob says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?
Well they should be able to foot the bill by what they are charging us to sit in the ITCHEN NORTH BLOCK 4 this season. I thought an increase of about £100 would be reasonable but, it's nearly double. How can a seat be classed as in the wings/ behind the goal one season and then be centre stand the next ???. We are only 18 yards from the goal line. Huh they should of gone to SPECSAVERS !!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?[/p][/quote]Well they should be able to foot the bill by what they are charging us to sit in the ITCHEN NORTH BLOCK 4 this season. I thought an increase of about £100 would be reasonable but, it's nearly double. How can a seat be classed as in the wings/ behind the goal one season and then be centre stand the next ???. We are only 18 yards from the goal line. Huh they should of gone to SPECSAVERS !!! hedge end bob
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4:45pm Thu 24 May 12

Jesus_02 says...

West ham are in for him (seriously?)

We will end up up with EITHER Jay Rod or Hooper. One or both are just a declaration that we have options. Price seems high but then thats what bringing a player to the preiership envolves.
West ham are in for him (seriously?) We will end up up with EITHER Jay Rod or Hooper. One or both are just a declaration that we have options. Price seems high but then thats what bringing a player to the preiership envolves. Jesus_02
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4:48pm Thu 24 May 12

sammy_m says...

Unfortunately as saints are in the prem we are going to have to pay premiership wages!
Cortese is going to have to get the cheque book out and break our record transfer fee for that infamous RORY DELAP at £4,000,000!!!!!
Unfortunately as saints are in the prem we are going to have to pay premiership wages! Cortese is going to have to get the cheque book out and break our record transfer fee for that infamous RORY DELAP at £4,000,000!!!!! sammy_m
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4:48pm Thu 24 May 12

sammy_m says...

Unfortunately as saints are in the prem we are going to have to pay premiership wages!
Cortese is going to have to get the cheque book out and break our record transfer fee for that infamous RORY DELAP at £4,000,000!!!!!
Unfortunately as saints are in the prem we are going to have to pay premiership wages! Cortese is going to have to get the cheque book out and break our record transfer fee for that infamous RORY DELAP at £4,000,000!!!!! sammy_m
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5:28pm Thu 24 May 12

cantthinkofone says...

I've also heard you may be taking Harry Kane on loan. Done very well at Millwall, would be a good squad/rotation striker/AM for you.
I've also heard you may be taking Harry Kane on loan. Done very well at Millwall, would be a good squad/rotation striker/AM for you. cantthinkofone
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5:39pm Thu 24 May 12

DBTM says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase?
Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase? Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club. DBTM
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5:54pm Thu 24 May 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

DBTM wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase?
Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.
I think he means Dick Barton, Special Agent!
[quote][p][bold]DBTM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase? Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.[/p][/quote]I think he means Dick Barton, Special Agent! Strasbourg Saint
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6:01pm Thu 24 May 12

priesters says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
DBTM wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase?
Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.
I think he means Dick Barton, Special Agent!
I'd take Warren Barton over that chode.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DBTM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase? Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.[/p][/quote]I think he means Dick Barton, Special Agent![/p][/quote]I'd take Warren Barton over that chode. priesters
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6:12pm Thu 24 May 12

magnette says...

This team is available on free transfers:
GK – Hahnemann/Kingson

DF – Pantsil, Upson, Craddock, Garrido

MF – Gera, Vieira/Zenden, Reo-Coker, McFadden/Larsson

FW – Gudjohnsen, Carew/Benjani
This team is available on free transfers: GK – Hahnemann/Kingson DF – Pantsil, Upson, Craddock, Garrido MF – Gera, Vieira/Zenden, Reo-Coker, McFadden/Larsson FW – Gudjohnsen, Carew/Benjani magnette
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6:18pm Thu 24 May 12

cantthinkofone says...

Upson lol
Upson lol cantthinkofone
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6:23pm Thu 24 May 12

tugboat says...

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
[quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights. tugboat
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6:52pm Thu 24 May 12

Baddesley Bill says...

tugboat wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
Abso-bloody-lutely Tugboat!
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.[/p][/quote]Abso-bloody-lutely Tugboat! Baddesley Bill
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7:01pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

we need someone in the squad who knows the Prem a bit, thats why it dawned on NC to make-friends-make-fr
iends-never-never-br
eak-friends with JP... his stint with Blackpool was worth its weight in gold... I agree though that has-beens from the Prem would be an expensive step backwards. Its all about stability and steady growth and development. but the bigger stadium is the key imo..
we need someone in the squad who knows the Prem a bit, thats why it dawned on NC to make-friends-make-fr iends-never-never-br eak-friends with JP... his stint with Blackpool was worth its weight in gold... I agree though that has-beens from the Prem would be an expensive step backwards. Its all about stability and steady growth and development. but the bigger stadium is the key imo.. MGRA
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7:11pm Thu 24 May 12

rocketone says...

I have a problem with bringing in players with "prem experience" didn't Poopey just get relegated from the Championship with player with "prem ex " ?
players who were on very high wages and were allegedly really good when they bought them ?
Buy players who are good in whatever league they are playing in, if that happened to be the Prem, then ok !
Do not buy players who have had multiple relegations or have only played for losing teams.
We want winners, so we will be winners !
Defoe is a very good idea, Joe Cole is a left field idea, Kalou is a good statement, although I personally think he is over-rated but what do I know?
We have a few players we can sell to Championship teams with hopes, others who will only be squad and make occasional appearances.
The young players coming through are being watched by the likes of Arsenal , so they must be good prospects and they need to be nurtured carefully.
The future is bright, honestly ! ! ! !
I have a problem with bringing in players with "prem experience" didn't Poopey just get relegated from the Championship with player with "prem ex " ? players who were on very high wages and were allegedly really good when they bought them ? Buy players who are good in whatever league they are playing in, if that happened to be the Prem, then ok ! Do not buy players who have had multiple relegations or have only played for losing teams. We want winners, so we will be winners ! Defoe is a very good idea, Joe Cole is a left field idea, Kalou is a good statement, although I personally think he is over-rated but what do I know? We have a few players we can sell to Championship teams with hopes, others who will only be squad and make occasional appearances. The young players coming through are being watched by the likes of Arsenal , so they must be good prospects and they need to be nurtured carefully. The future is bright, honestly ! ! ! ! rocketone
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7:11pm Thu 24 May 12

aldermoorboy says...

I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX. aldermoorboy
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7:16pm Thu 24 May 12

MGRA says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.
its not good having a player like him without the players around him he needs... he scored his goals with us virtually by himself !! no that was a wise sell imo... ironic though that we have a problem on the right now tho and late in the season we played chappers there with disasterous consequences...
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.[/p][/quote]its not good having a player like him without the players around him he needs... he scored his goals with us virtually by himself !! no that was a wise sell imo... ironic though that we have a problem on the right now tho and late in the season we played chappers there with disasterous consequences... MGRA
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7:45pm Thu 24 May 12

Baddesley Bill says...

MGRA wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.
its not good having a player like him without the players around him he needs... he scored his goals with us virtually by himself !! no that was a wise sell imo... ironic though that we have a problem on the right now tho and late in the season we played chappers there with disasterous consequences...
I'd have love to have kept hold of Oxo (if he'd have wanted to stay)...him and AL switching wings would have ripped up the Prem. Anyone agree that Jarvis could be an option?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.[/p][/quote]its not good having a player like him without the players around him he needs... he scored his goals with us virtually by himself !! no that was a wise sell imo... ironic though that we have a problem on the right now tho and late in the season we played chappers there with disasterous consequences...[/p][/quote]I'd have love to have kept hold of Oxo (if he'd have wanted to stay)...him and AL switching wings would have ripped up the Prem. Anyone agree that Jarvis could be an option? Baddesley Bill
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8:12pm Thu 24 May 12

Crossley Place Saint says...

I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for. Crossley Place Saint
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8:13pm Thu 24 May 12

slugger says...

if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing ! slugger
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8:19pm Thu 24 May 12

Over the Edge says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt. Over the Edge
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8:28pm Thu 24 May 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Over the Edge wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
I think Huddersfield will want more than £2mill...but I'd still be happy to have him in the squad.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.[/p][/quote]I think Huddersfield will want more than £2mill...but I'd still be happy to have him in the squad. Baddesley Bill
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9:22pm Thu 24 May 12

Over the Edge says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
I think Huddersfield will want more than £2mill...but I'd still be happy to have him in the squad.
I honestly think its all on the result of the play off final on Saturday, if Huddersfield don't make it, £2 million is a lot to spend in League One, agreed excellent squad member, young enough the learn more, we will make him a better player.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.[/p][/quote]I think Huddersfield will want more than £2mill...but I'd still be happy to have him in the squad.[/p][/quote]I honestly think its all on the result of the play off final on Saturday, if Huddersfield don't make it, £2 million is a lot to spend in League One, agreed excellent squad member, young enough the learn more, we will make him a better player. Over the Edge
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9:28pm Thu 24 May 12

saintshorse101 says...

tugboat wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
could not agree more! prem clubs have for years brought in cheaper foreign players rather than pay the higher asking price of lower league teams for british players. this has increased the quality of lower league football in this country as those players stay at lower levels. i am not saying we should pay over the odds for british players, all i am saying is there are some better quality players at lower levels than some so called prem quality players! if you can get the right player at the right price it shouldn`t matter what level they have previously been at! for example former liverpool player david ngog scored 4 goals in 27 apps for bolton last season, how many would rickie or billy have got? some (not me) thought rickie would struggle at champ level. the same thing has happened with british managers, there are many quality british managers plying their trade at lower levels whilst prem clubs have had a love affair with foreign managers. I am not anti foreign players/managers i would just like to see some more british talent given a chance.
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.[/p][/quote]could not agree more! prem clubs have for years brought in cheaper foreign players rather than pay the higher asking price of lower league teams for british players. this has increased the quality of lower league football in this country as those players stay at lower levels. i am not saying we should pay over the odds for british players, all i am saying is there are some better quality players at lower levels than some so called prem quality players! if you can get the right player at the right price it shouldn`t matter what level they have previously been at! for example former liverpool player david ngog scored 4 goals in 27 apps for bolton last season, how many would rickie or billy have got? some (not me) thought rickie would struggle at champ level. the same thing has happened with british managers, there are many quality british managers plying their trade at lower levels whilst prem clubs have had a love affair with foreign managers. I am not anti foreign players/managers i would just like to see some more british talent given a chance. saintshorse101
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9:51pm Thu 24 May 12

RedArmy1 says...

slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !
Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP.

Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot.

Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough.

Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball.

When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had.

If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success.

WE MEAN BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH.

p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc.....

Sink the Skunts ...

THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing ![/p][/quote]Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP. Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot. Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough. Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball. When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had. If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success. WE MEAN BUSINESS. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc..... Sink the Skunts ... THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE RedArmy1
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9:54pm Thu 24 May 12

RedArmy1 says...

Over the Edge wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ...

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.[/p][/quote]Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ... COYR RedArmy1
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9:55pm Thu 24 May 12

bigbezzer says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
how is he a journeyman striker he has been at Burnley since he was 11 try getting your facts right before posting it just makes you look a bellend
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]how is he a journeyman striker he has been at Burnley since he was 11 try getting your facts right before posting it just makes you look a bellend bigbezzer
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10:10pm Thu 24 May 12

Velleity says...

D4n1el wrote:
interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/18

182424
This "story" is summed up by Barry Kilby in the article above:

"What happens at this time of year, in my experience, is that agents plant things in newspapers"

Nothing to see here, move along.
[quote][p][bold]D4n1el[/bold] wrote: interesting... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/18 182424[/p][/quote]This "story" is summed up by Barry Kilby in the article above: "What happens at this time of year, in my experience, is that agents plant things in newspapers" Nothing to see here, move along. Velleity
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10:33pm Thu 24 May 12

skin2000 says...

Saints linked with Frank Saul and Fred Kemp
Saints linked with Frank Saul and Fred Kemp skin2000
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11:08pm Thu 24 May 12

randre says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
tugboat wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
Abso-bloody-lutely Tugboat!
Yes, agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.[/p][/quote]Abso-bloody-lutely Tugboat![/p][/quote]Yes, agree 100% randre
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11:24pm Thu 24 May 12

skin2000 says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !
Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP.

Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot.

Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough.

Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball.

When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had.

If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success.

WE MEAN BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH.

p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc.....

Sink the Skunts ...

THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE
i would put a bid in for Dave Blake.He would link well with Fonte.We should be able to pick him up on a free.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing ![/p][/quote]Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP. Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot. Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough. Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball. When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had. If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success. WE MEAN BUSINESS. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc..... Sink the Skunts ... THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE[/p][/quote]i would put a bid in for Dave Blake.He would link well with Fonte.We should be able to pick him up on a free. COYR skin2000
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12:04am Fri 25 May 12

arthur boutfaith says...

skin2000 wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !
Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP.

Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot.

Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough.

Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball.

When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had.

If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success.

WE MEAN BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH.

p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc.....

Sink the Skunts ...

THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE
i would put a bid in for Dave Blake.He would link well with Fonte.We should be able to pick him up on a free.

COYR
Disagree about Butterfield.
On the occasions I've seen him play, he's had a few good games and I can't recall him having a 'bad' game.
In one match he put in a brilliant performance.

I'm more concerned with cover at LB.
IMO Harding is not as good a deputy in that position as Butterfield is at RB.

Need more CB's. Good Buddy.
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing ![/p][/quote]Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP. Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot. Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough. Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball. When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had. If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success. WE MEAN BUSINESS. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc..... Sink the Skunts ... THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE[/p][/quote]i would put a bid in for Dave Blake.He would link well with Fonte.We should be able to pick him up on a free. COYR[/p][/quote]Disagree about Butterfield. On the occasions I've seen him play, he's had a few good games and I can't recall him having a 'bad' game. In one match he put in a brilliant performance. I'm more concerned with cover at LB. IMO Harding is not as good a deputy in that position as Butterfield is at RB. Need more CB's. Good Buddy. arthur boutfaith
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2:58am Fri 25 May 12

StevieSteve says...

I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?! StevieSteve
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3:11am Fri 25 May 12

petethephantom says...

g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia
g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia petethephantom
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4:06am Fri 25 May 12

mack chinnon says...

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia
We wondered where you had got to.
Hope you enjoyed yourself in Blighty and in the now fairly cheap eurozone.
Enjoy your winter and see you soon.
U.T.S.
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia[/p][/quote]We wondered where you had got to. Hope you enjoyed yourself in Blighty and in the now fairly cheap eurozone. Enjoy your winter and see you soon. U.T.S. mack chinnon
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4:25am Fri 25 May 12

RisingSon says...

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia
Was beginning to think you were a phantom.
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia[/p][/quote]Was beginning to think you were a phantom. RisingSon
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8:41am Fri 25 May 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia
Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion.

Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was!

Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia[/p][/quote]Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here? Strasbourg Saint
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8:51am Fri 25 May 12

SFCOLDBOY says...

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
Owen is an injury waiting to happen.
He has had a serious knee and numerous muscle problems, even while at ManUnited.His pace has been affected by this.
Ferguson just used him as a back up goal poacher. I accept he was a great scorrer when he was young and no doubt he will still get a few goals for a championship side.
We can't afford to carry anyone now.
COYR.
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?![/p][/quote]Owen is an injury waiting to happen. He has had a serious knee and numerous muscle problems, even while at ManUnited.His pace has been affected by this. Ferguson just used him as a back up goal poacher. I accept he was a great scorrer when he was young and no doubt he will still get a few goals for a championship side. We can't afford to carry anyone now. COYR. SFCOLDBOY
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8:51am Fri 25 May 12

Alicesdad says...

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
You must believe it. It is a bad idea. Nothing more to say.
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?![/p][/quote]You must believe it. It is a bad idea. Nothing more to say. Alicesdad
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9:13am Fri 25 May 12

Vordhosbn says...

tugboat wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
I completely agree that we don't need players purely because "they have experience" and that players from the Championship, or possibly even lower, are capable of doing very well in the Premier League. But I have to take exception to your Everton remark. I think too many fans think we are better than we are, play them off the park? A bit too arrogant don't you think? We will do ok in our first season, but lets not start claiming we will be playing teams that consistently finish in the top 8 off the park...coincidentall
y Everton are a good example of what you were saying about buying players from the lower leagues, Beckford aside of course...
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.[/p][/quote]I completely agree that we don't need players purely because "they have experience" and that players from the Championship, or possibly even lower, are capable of doing very well in the Premier League. But I have to take exception to your Everton remark. I think too many fans think we are better than we are, play them off the park? A bit too arrogant don't you think? We will do ok in our first season, but lets not start claiming we will be playing teams that consistently finish in the top 8 off the park...coincidentall y Everton are a good example of what you were saying about buying players from the lower leagues, Beckford aside of course... Vordhosbn
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9:24am Fri 25 May 12

saintdownunder says...

skin2000 wrote:
Saints linked with Frank Saul and Fred Kemp
frank saul was ok but yes, i would settle for freddie kemp in midfield , he always gave 300% and never stopped running, where are the good honest players like that today?
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: Saints linked with Frank Saul and Fred Kemp[/p][/quote]frank saul was ok but yes, i would settle for freddie kemp in midfield , he always gave 300% and never stopped running, where are the good honest players like that today? saintdownunder
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11:20am Fri 25 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
No he doesn't, he let him go.
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?![/p][/quote]No he doesn't, he let him go. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:33am Fri 25 May 12

george chivers says...

Not only does he lack pace. He also lacks decent hamstrings, knees, calves and motivation.

But apart from that!
Not only does he lack pace. He also lacks decent hamstrings, knees, calves and motivation. But apart from that! george chivers
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11:55am Fri 25 May 12

St Retford says...

He knows a lot about horses though.
He knows a lot about horses though. St Retford
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11:56am Fri 25 May 12

george chivers says...

tugboat wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.
If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.
I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.
Your assumption about good Championship players doing well in the Premier League is not always right. For instance the following Reading players, who have achieved something, but really haven't shone at the top level.

Hunt, Kitson, Long, Shorey, Doyle and the mid field player who is now at Fulham.

The size of their transfer fees does not reflect their performances at the highest Level. Good at times but not consistent. Same as Surman with Norwich, if you recall he failed with Wolves.

I think we we have to buy some
experienced Premier League/foreign players to supplement our existing players and any others we get in from the lower leagues.

Norwich and Swansea won't stay up forever by buying from the lower divisions, Reading didn't.
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShakeyWiffles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.[/p][/quote]If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.[/p][/quote]I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.[/p][/quote]Your assumption about good Championship players doing well in the Premier League is not always right. For instance the following Reading players, who have achieved something, but really haven't shone at the top level. Hunt, Kitson, Long, Shorey, Doyle and the mid field player who is now at Fulham. The size of their transfer fees does not reflect their performances at the highest Level. Good at times but not consistent. Same as Surman with Norwich, if you recall he failed with Wolves. I think we we have to buy some experienced Premier League/foreign players to supplement our existing players and any others we get in from the lower leagues. Norwich and Swansea won't stay up forever by buying from the lower divisions, Reading didn't. george chivers
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11:57am Fri 25 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Retford wrote:
He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:12pm Fri 25 May 12

St Retford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful. St Retford
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12:19pm Fri 25 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
He always came over as such a clean cut lad.

I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.[/p][/quote]He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:10pm Fri 25 May 12

St Retford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.
I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.[/p][/quote]He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.[/p][/quote]I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games. St Retford
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1:18pm Fri 25 May 12

mack chinnon says...

St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.
I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.
I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.[/p][/quote]He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.[/p][/quote]I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.[/p][/quote]I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy. mack chinnon
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1:27pm Fri 25 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

mack chinnon wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.
I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.
I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.
Hahaha!

I agree Owen is probably not the man, be too much like DC - great when fully fit but too rarely available to make it worth it.

Who are today's players that fit into that mould? Probably the likes of Giggs and Scholes but they seem to be playing to the very end at Manure.
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.[/p][/quote]He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.[/p][/quote]I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.[/p][/quote]I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.[/p][/quote]Hahaha! I agree Owen is probably not the man, be too much like DC - great when fully fit but too rarely available to make it worth it. Who are today's players that fit into that mould? Probably the likes of Giggs and Scholes but they seem to be playing to the very end at Manure. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:31pm Fri 25 May 12

St Retford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.
Is that why he can't retire yet?
He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.
He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.
I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.
I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.
Hahaha! I agree Owen is probably not the man, be too much like DC - great when fully fit but too rarely available to make it worth it. Who are today's players that fit into that mould? Probably the likes of Giggs and Scholes but they seem to be playing to the very end at Manure.
Stevie G could do a job, I reckon, and Nigel would LOVE to have him. Equally, I doubt he'll ever leave Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.[/p][/quote]Is that why he can't retire yet?[/p][/quote]He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.[/p][/quote]He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.[/p][/quote]I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.[/p][/quote]I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.[/p][/quote]Hahaha! I agree Owen is probably not the man, be too much like DC - great when fully fit but too rarely available to make it worth it. Who are today's players that fit into that mould? Probably the likes of Giggs and Scholes but they seem to be playing to the very end at Manure.[/p][/quote]Stevie G could do a job, I reckon, and Nigel would LOVE to have him. Equally, I doubt he'll ever leave Liverpool. St Retford
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1:42pm Fri 25 May 12

Redrobbo says...

I can't see us or anyone else paying £6 million for JayRod. He only has one year on his contract so I would have thought half of that would be about right. We may bring in Owen, I think he could still do a job and would certainly help the youngsters to be training with him or anyone else of his undoubted calibre. NC and NA have a difficult job keeping the team spirit and at the same time bringing in probably half a dozen new faces. Think it will be a test for NA as he will want to show loyalty to the players who have achieved so much, I think NC will have no such problem in getting rid of anyone not up to scratch.
I can't see us or anyone else paying £6 million for JayRod. He only has one year on his contract so I would have thought half of that would be about right. We may bring in Owen, I think he could still do a job and would certainly help the youngsters to be training with him or anyone else of his undoubted calibre. NC and NA have a difficult job keeping the team spirit and at the same time bringing in probably half a dozen new faces. Think it will be a test for NA as he will want to show loyalty to the players who have achieved so much, I think NC will have no such problem in getting rid of anyone not up to scratch. Redrobbo
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2:29pm Fri 25 May 12

petethephantom says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
petethephantom wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia
Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?
hhaahahaha
umm went to the silver service section of the game, and met some really nice ppl on the table i was on...... after the game we went ( myself and a couple of ppl on the table i was on) to some italian club/nightclub where we crashed someones 25th birthday and then someones hens night.... then we went into the centre of town and drank and sung and drank some more and sang some more( we are southampton in the premier league) oh and did i say drank some more.... well i got back to the novatell around 3am full as a bull and well thouroughly and completely satisfied

hence i will be back again next season sometime. need fixture to work out where and when cause is even for 1 game is a $2500 round trip so gotta make it worth while ( thats 1600 pound)

coy r

ps i met kelvin davis b4 the game and had a photo with him, what a champion bloke.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia[/p][/quote]Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?[/p][/quote]hhaahahaha umm went to the silver service section of the game, and met some really nice ppl on the table i was on...... after the game we went ( myself and a couple of ppl on the table i was on) to some italian club/nightclub where we crashed someones 25th birthday and then someones hens night.... then we went into the centre of town and drank and sung and drank some more and sang some more( we are southampton in the premier league) oh and did i say drank some more.... well i got back to the novatell around 3am full as a bull and well thouroughly and completely satisfied hence i will be back again next season sometime. need fixture to work out where and when cause is even for 1 game is a $2500 round trip so gotta make it worth while ( thats 1600 pound) coy r ps i met kelvin davis b4 the game and had a photo with him, what a champion bloke. petethephantom
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2:38pm Fri 25 May 12

Dickosfc says...

Florent Malouder looda looda Florent Malouder Whoop Whoop!!!
Florent Malouder looda looda Florent Malouder Whoop Whoop!!! Dickosfc
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2:51pm Fri 25 May 12

Alicesdad says...

It's Friday, it's hot, I'm bored. There are no interesting rumours and seems to be no news .... OK Echo I give in .. put up an artcle with thousands of stats in it ... You KNOW what I mean ..."it's over fifty years since we had a team with four left handers playing on the right side of the field where two of them have scored less than ten goals in five years on a day when the crowd was half what it had been three weeks before their last score draw.

Come on you can do it !! Get typing ..
It's Friday, it's hot, I'm bored. There are no interesting rumours and seems to be no news .... OK Echo I give in .. put up an artcle with thousands of stats in it ... You KNOW what I mean ..."it's over fifty years since we had a team with four left handers playing on the right side of the field where two of them have scored less than ten goals in five years on a day when the crowd was half what it had been three weeks before their last score draw. Come on you can do it !! Get typing .. Alicesdad
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3:17pm Fri 25 May 12

petethephantom says...

is hot what says 25 deg up the top corner
thats a spring/ autumn day here.... you couldnt handle summer in oz ....lol
is hot what says 25 deg up the top corner thats a spring/ autumn day here.... you couldnt handle summer in oz ....lol petethephantom
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3:17pm Fri 25 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

petethephantom wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
petethephantom wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia
Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?
hhaahahaha
umm went to the silver service section of the game, and met some really nice ppl on the table i was on...... after the game we went ( myself and a couple of ppl on the table i was on) to some italian club/nightclub where we crashed someones 25th birthday and then someones hens night.... then we went into the centre of town and drank and sung and drank some more and sang some more( we are southampton in the premier league) oh and did i say drank some more.... well i got back to the novatell around 3am full as a bull and well thouroughly and completely satisfied

hence i will be back again next season sometime. need fixture to work out where and when cause is even for 1 game is a $2500 round trip so gotta make it worth while ( thats 1600 pound)

coy r

ps i met kelvin davis b4 the game and had a photo with him, what a champion bloke.
Were you in the Mick Channon? An Aussie was interviewed befoe the game and me and Bill were going to say Hi and see if it was you but couldn't find you afterwards. I was the one infront of the stage with the small boy in his Saints kit, my lad was mascot.
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia[/p][/quote]Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?[/p][/quote]hhaahahaha umm went to the silver service section of the game, and met some really nice ppl on the table i was on...... after the game we went ( myself and a couple of ppl on the table i was on) to some italian club/nightclub where we crashed someones 25th birthday and then someones hens night.... then we went into the centre of town and drank and sung and drank some more and sang some more( we are southampton in the premier league) oh and did i say drank some more.... well i got back to the novatell around 3am full as a bull and well thouroughly and completely satisfied hence i will be back again next season sometime. need fixture to work out where and when cause is even for 1 game is a $2500 round trip so gotta make it worth while ( thats 1600 pound) coy r ps i met kelvin davis b4 the game and had a photo with him, what a champion bloke.[/p][/quote]Were you in the Mick Channon? An Aussie was interviewed befoe the game and me and Bill were going to say Hi and see if it was you but couldn't find you afterwards. I was the one infront of the stage with the small boy in his Saints kit, my lad was mascot. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:24pm Fri 25 May 12

petethephantom says...

yes...... ill look at my pics and see..... you kid was the mascot wow ....how cool is that.....trying to upload the pic on here with dan seaborne and the one with kelvin but alas no luck

was a great day in my life and enjoyed every minute including putting 20 pound on 4-0 at 16/1 ....

next time im there we will have to definetely meet
yes...... ill look at my pics and see..... you kid was the mascot wow ....how cool is that.....trying to upload the pic on here with dan seaborne and the one with kelvin but alas no luck was a great day in my life and enjoyed every minute including putting 20 pound on 4-0 at 16/1 .... next time im there we will have to definetely meet petethephantom
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3:27pm Fri 25 May 12

petethephantom says...

tiz 1226am sat and i think better go to bed as jetlagg is starting to hit

till next time pete

coyr
tiz 1226am sat and i think better go to bed as jetlagg is starting to hit till next time pete coyr petethephantom
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3:33pm Fri 25 May 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Sorry possums, but I feel some of you boys are getting a little starry eyed and delusional about Taffy Sick Note Owen and his possible contribution to Saints. He is IMO one of a number of players that have shown exceptional talent over the years but are now old injury crocks that have proved ultimately unreliable to their teams cause. A’ la Jamie Redknapp, Ledley King, Mush on the Beach, Owen Hargreave etc.

No time or space for old experienced overpaid has beens, the Saints Prem model should look no further than Geordie land model. Exciting young talent that the big boys have turned their nose up at A’la Cisse, Ba, Cabaye, Mush on the Beach and Ben Arfa.
I hope Nicola reads these pages, it's full of gems for how to improve out footy club, present company excluded!!!
Sorry possums, but I feel some of you boys are getting a little starry eyed and delusional about Taffy Sick Note Owen and his possible contribution to Saints. He is IMO one of a number of players that have shown exceptional talent over the years but are now old injury crocks that have proved ultimately unreliable to their teams cause. A’ la Jamie Redknapp, Ledley King, Mush on the Beach, Owen Hargreave etc. No time or space for old experienced overpaid has beens, the Saints Prem model should look no further than Geordie land model. Exciting young talent that the big boys have turned their nose up at A’la Cisse, Ba, Cabaye, Mush on the Beach and Ben Arfa. I hope Nicola reads these pages, it's full of gems for how to improve out footy club, present company excluded!!! Mush On The Beach
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3:44pm Fri 25 May 12

El Santo says...

St Retford wrote:
"reportedly"
Which translated means "ain't gonna happen". NC does not work like that if past moves are any guide.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: "reportedly"[/p][/quote]Which translated means "ain't gonna happen". NC does not work like that if past moves are any guide. El Santo
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4:03pm Fri 25 May 12

Mush On The Beach says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.
Unless I’m mistaken, are you not in fact a confused Brighton fan (you know it) coming on here expressing your undesired love and wishes for a big jolly green incredible large giant of a man to satisfy your competitive needs? Interesting
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.[/p][/quote]Unless I’m mistaken, are you not in fact a confused Brighton fan (you know it) coming on here expressing your undesired love and wishes for a big jolly green incredible large giant of a man to satisfy your competitive needs? Interesting Mush On The Beach
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4:12pm Fri 25 May 12

Mush On The Beach says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ...

COYR
Bigfella777 would love to nominate himself onto the inspection comittee
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.[/p][/quote]Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ... COYR[/p][/quote]Bigfella777 would love to nominate himself onto the inspection comittee Mush On The Beach
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4:38pm Fri 25 May 12

St Retford says...

El Santo wrote:
St Retford wrote: "reportedly"
Which translated means "ain't gonna happen". NC does not work like that if past moves are any guide.
*Nose / finger pointy thingie*
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: "reportedly"[/p][/quote]Which translated means "ain't gonna happen". NC does not work like that if past moves are any guide.[/p][/quote]*Nose / finger pointy thingie* St Retford
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4:42pm Fri 25 May 12

StevieSteve says...

Alicesdad wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
You must believe it. It is a bad idea. Nothing more to say.
Do we really want Rodriguez? Watch this pen... http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=h3KsEHgMh
GE

Lucky we've got Le Ricky Lambert!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?![/p][/quote]You must believe it. It is a bad idea. Nothing more to say.[/p][/quote]Do we really want Rodriguez? Watch this pen... http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=h3KsEHgMh GE Lucky we've got Le Ricky Lambert! StevieSteve
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4:55pm Fri 25 May 12

StevieSteve says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!
Owen is an injury waiting to happen.
He has had a serious knee and numerous muscle problems, even while at ManUnited.His pace has been affected by this.
Ferguson just used him as a back up goal poacher. I accept he was a great scorrer when he was young and no doubt he will still get a few goals for a championship side.
We can't afford to carry anyone now.
COYR.
We're all entitled to our own opinions I guess but he is the exact kind of squad player we need! Didn't we take a risk with Connolly? Look how well he did for us when he was fit.

And..Owen has been fit for months now and like you said Fergie has been using him as a back up goal poacher... a player of his calibre can teach the youngsters coming through also.

By the way it's not just Fergie who rates him, Le God seems to think he's still got it! But hey what do they know eh?! Lol

Anyway guys, I'm sure you're all busy playing Championship Manager so ENJOY!
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?![/p][/quote]Owen is an injury waiting to happen. He has had a serious knee and numerous muscle problems, even while at ManUnited.His pace has been affected by this. Ferguson just used him as a back up goal poacher. I accept he was a great scorrer when he was young and no doubt he will still get a few goals for a championship side. We can't afford to carry anyone now. COYR.[/p][/quote]We're all entitled to our own opinions I guess but he is the exact kind of squad player we need! Didn't we take a risk with Connolly? Look how well he did for us when he was fit. And..Owen has been fit for months now and like you said Fergie has been using him as a back up goal poacher... a player of his calibre can teach the youngsters coming through also. By the way it's not just Fergie who rates him, Le God seems to think he's still got it! But hey what do they know eh?! Lol Anyway guys, I'm sure you're all busy playing Championship Manager so ENJOY! StevieSteve
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5:33pm Fri 25 May 12

saintkenny says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.
but you cant if the boy wants to go and treble his wages.same with all players unless your going to cheat status and pay it like pompey did .this is not the saints way .we all would of loved walcott bale to stay ,but this is the real world you cannot compete .even arsenal or spurs cannot compete with clubs with the champions league cash .wake up this is the real world
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.[/p][/quote]but you cant if the boy wants to go and treble his wages.same with all players unless your going to cheat status and pay it like pompey did .this is not the saints way .we all would of loved walcott bale to stay ,but this is the real world you cannot compete .even arsenal or spurs cannot compete with clubs with the champions league cash .wake up this is the real world saintkenny
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5:39pm Fri 25 May 12

saintkenny says...

dopplershift wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
Wayne Bridge? Sorry but he was and always will be overrated. A nice player but there's something very Tyro league about the way he kicks the ball (which is always backwards BTW) and in my opinion not better than Fox. I think his name proceeded him and then he's been found out at every club.
.
Owen wouldn't be in it for the long haul and I'd guarantee NC wouldn't pay more than a quid for a player as injury prone as him as it's not an investment. If he brought his wages down to less than £20k per week and was on a free it would be worth a second glance but we all know he is only in it for the money.
fox is a poor left back .bridge would be better fox is ok going forward crosses .but fonte and ho have carried him to much .he was not good enough in the premier with burnley .it is important we buy a left back urgently and for cover .davis bham was miles the best left back in the championship i would bid for him ,way better than fox
[quote][p][bold]dopplershift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]Wayne Bridge? Sorry but he was and always will be overrated. A nice player but there's something very Tyro league about the way he kicks the ball (which is always backwards BTW) and in my opinion not better than Fox. I think his name proceeded him and then he's been found out at every club. . Owen wouldn't be in it for the long haul and I'd guarantee NC wouldn't pay more than a quid for a player as injury prone as him as it's not an investment. If he brought his wages down to less than £20k per week and was on a free it would be worth a second glance but we all know he is only in it for the money.[/p][/quote]fox is a poor left back .bridge would be better fox is ok going forward crosses .but fonte and ho have carried him to much .he was not good enough in the premier with burnley .it is important we buy a left back urgently and for cover .davis bham was miles the best left back in the championship i would bid for him ,way better than fox saintkenny
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7:35pm Fri 25 May 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Paper talk its been a bit quite lately!
Paper talk its been a bit quite lately! Fatty x Ford Worker
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8:20pm Fri 25 May 12

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...

Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement.
No way will Celtic let Hooper go.
Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement. No way will Celtic let Hooper go. Ashley Charles Pragnell
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8:20pm Fri 25 May 12

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...

Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement.
No way will Celtic let Hooper go.
Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement. No way will Celtic let Hooper go. Ashley Charles Pragnell
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9:07pm Fri 25 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Paper talk its been a bit quite lately!
Quite or quiet?
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: Paper talk its been a bit quite lately![/p][/quote]Quite or quiet? OSPREYSAINT
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9:12pm Fri 25 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement.
No way will Celtic let Hooper go.
Rod(r)iguez, to(o), What we?, Seabo(no u)rne, p(re)haps, the Spelling and Grammar Police are appalled at the low standard on this site, you must try harder now that we are in the Premier League!
[quote][p][bold]Ashley Charles Pragnell[/bold] wrote: Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement. No way will Celtic let Hooper go.[/p][/quote]Rod(r)iguez, to(o), What we?, Seabo(no u)rne, p(re)haps, the Spelling and Grammar Police are appalled at the low standard on this site, you must try harder now that we are in the Premier League! OSPREYSAINT
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10:27pm Fri 25 May 12

Gossie. says...

A complete waste of money, and a move that wont happen. Nige's first move will be to strengthen his midfield, then his fullbacks and goalkeepers, then the veggie pie option
A complete waste of money, and a move that wont happen. Nige's first move will be to strengthen his midfield, then his fullbacks and goalkeepers, then the veggie pie option Gossie.
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8:04am Sat 26 May 12

LoyalSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.
and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.[/p][/quote]and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!! LoyalSaint
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10:51am Sat 26 May 12

SaffaSaint says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
transfermarkt also values Llalana at e1.8 and lambert at e2.2 so its fair to say they underprice some players
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]transfermarkt also values Llalana at e1.8 and lambert at e2.2 so its fair to say they underprice some players SaffaSaint
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11:19am Sat 26 May 12

St_Ron says...

I think a striker is our least prioirty, Lee and Sharp arrived only a few months ago and still need game time to intergrate..Pacey Full-backs are our top prioirty, Luke Shaw our England U21 , promoted from youth team has already caught the eye from other prem teams, maybe this is the year to break into the first team? worth a punt over Fox I think.
I think a striker is our least prioirty, Lee and Sharp arrived only a few months ago and still need game time to intergrate..Pacey Full-backs are our top prioirty, Luke Shaw our England U21 , promoted from youth team has already caught the eye from other prem teams, maybe this is the year to break into the first team? worth a punt over Fox I think. St_Ron
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12:30pm Sat 26 May 12

FDA1963 says...

saintssaintssaints wrote:
We need two strikers:
Jay and Hooper.
At least 2 pacey wingers:
1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly.
1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner.
1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates.
1 goalie - young talented englishman
Thats 7 players.

Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well.

1st team something like:
Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER.
Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players.
Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc

Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.
How about Gattuso for CM ??Milan are letting him go ,he is just the kind of player we @ soton like ,tough tackler and inspirational !!!
[quote][p][bold]saintssaintssaints[/bold] wrote: We need two strikers: Jay and Hooper. At least 2 pacey wingers: 1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly. 1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner. 1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates. 1 goalie - young talented englishman Thats 7 players. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well. 1st team something like: Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER. Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players. Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.[/p][/quote]How about Gattuso for CM ??Milan are letting him go ,he is just the kind of player we @ soton like ,tough tackler and inspirational !!! FDA1963
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1:32pm Sat 26 May 12

arm chair fan says...

i have no idea who will come in but i will make one prediction "no one will return " this is trouble that they don't need . def. new young keeper . a lot of the rest will depend on how they rate the 4 youngsters (and Seabourne ) i.e. i think that by this time next year Shaw may be our first choice L B .
i have no idea who will come in but i will make one prediction "no one will return " this is trouble that they don't need . def. new young keeper . a lot of the rest will depend on how they rate the 4 youngsters (and Seabourne ) i.e. i think that by this time next year Shaw may be our first choice L B . arm chair fan
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9:16pm Sat 26 May 12

skin2000 says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.
Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.
Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ...

COYR
Bigfella777 would love to nominate himself onto the inspection comittee
No Dave Blake is the man to go for.He may lack a bit of place, but he is far better than Rhodes and has been quoted as saying 'Come and get me Saints'
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.[/p][/quote]Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.[/p][/quote]Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ... COYR[/p][/quote]Bigfella777 would love to nominate himself onto the inspection comittee[/p][/quote]No Dave Blake is the man to go for.He may lack a bit of place, but he is far better than Rhodes and has been quoted as saying 'Come and get me Saints' skin2000
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9:39am Sun 27 May 12

StevieSteve says...

LoyalSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.
and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!!
He was actually keeping Cole on the bench most of the time! That's why he was always in England squads?! Not sure he could still do a job for us now but he used to be 1 of the best left backs in England.
[quote][p][bold]LoyalSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.[/p][/quote]and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!![/p][/quote]He was actually keeping Cole on the bench most of the time! That's why he was always in England squads?! Not sure he could still do a job for us now but he used to be 1 of the best left backs in England. StevieSteve
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11:16am Sun 27 May 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

StevieSteve wrote:
LoyalSaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?
I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.
and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!!
He was actually keeping Cole on the bench most of the time! That's why he was always in England squads?! Not sure he could still do a job for us now but he used to be 1 of the best left backs in England.
Cole has kept Bridge on the bench throughout his career at club and country level. If Cole hadn't been around he would have had a very different time.

He was an ever present for us, I remember him holding the record for consecutive minutes on the pitch.

Probably best left as memories if we wish to build a team to improve year on year. Also I don't think Fox, Chappers, De Ridder, Sharp etc were bought just to get us promoted. The club isn't as short term as that under NC and NA.
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LoyalSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.[/p][/quote]and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!![/p][/quote]He was actually keeping Cole on the bench most of the time! That's why he was always in England squads?! Not sure he could still do a job for us now but he used to be 1 of the best left backs in England.[/p][/quote]Cole has kept Bridge on the bench throughout his career at club and country level. If Cole hadn't been around he would have had a very different time. He was an ever present for us, I remember him holding the record for consecutive minutes on the pitch. Probably best left as memories if we wish to build a team to improve year on year. Also I don't think Fox, Chappers, De Ridder, Sharp etc were bought just to get us promoted. The club isn't as short term as that under NC and NA. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:34am Sun 27 May 12

abbiscuits says...

i'd like to see whittingham, ince, gordon (gk), clyne and jordan rhodes come in and butterfield, dickson, hammond? out???
i'd like to see whittingham, ince, gordon (gk), clyne and jordan rhodes come in and butterfield, dickson, hammond? out??? abbiscuits
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5:57pm Sun 27 May 12

ghk230473 says...

Rumour has it that the don is ambitious and looking towards champions league football. Adkins will be under pressure and with this in mind I don't think Rodriguez is a starter. If the rumour is true expect as you get more for your money. The don is a fan and friend of Di matteo! Watch this space......
Rumour has it that the don is ambitious and looking towards champions league football. Adkins will be under pressure and with this in mind I don't think Rodriguez is a starter. If the rumour is true expect as you get more for your money. The don is a fan and friend of Di matteo! Watch this space...... ghk230473
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6:00pm Sun 27 May 12

ghk230473 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Rumour has it that the don is ambitious and looking towards champions league football. Adkins will be under pressure and with this in mind I don't think Rodriguez is a starter. If the rumour is true expect as you get more for your money. The don is a fan and friend of Di matteo! Watch this space......
Expect foreigners (not the group)!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Rumour has it that the don is ambitious and looking towards champions league football. Adkins will be under pressure and with this in mind I don't think Rodriguez is a starter. If the rumour is true expect as you get more for your money. The don is a fan and friend of Di matteo! Watch this space......[/p][/quote]Expect foreigners (not the group)! ghk230473
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3:31pm Mon 28 May 12

saintkenny says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.
If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.
WHAT YOU WANT SALT IN PEEPER ,BARNARD HAS A LOT TO OFFER .NOW FREE OF ALL TROUBLES ON CONTRACT TILL 2015 SO .THINK HE WILL WITH 7 SUBS ,CERTAINLY CAN BE A IMPACT SUB ,NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.[/p][/quote]If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.[/p][/quote]WHAT YOU WANT SALT IN PEEPER ,BARNARD HAS A LOT TO OFFER .NOW FREE OF ALL TROUBLES ON CONTRACT TILL 2015 SO .THINK HE WILL WITH 7 SUBS ,CERTAINLY CAN BE A IMPACT SUB ,NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT saintkenny
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