Saints make Butland enquiry

Saints have enquired after England goalkeeper Jack Butland – but are likely to have to offer first team football to land him.

The 19-year-old was a shock call-up for Roy Hodgson’s Euro 2012 squad, despite having not yet played a single club game for Birmingham.

Saints will sign a new keeper this summer after releasing Bartosz Bialkowski, leaving only the unfancied Tommy Forecast, who has not made a single appearance for the club in four years at St Mary’s, as the only back-up for Kelvin Davis.

The Daily Echo can confirm that Saints have enquired after the young stopper, rated at around £3m, but are one of a number of Premier League clubs to do so with Newcastle, Liverpool, Everton, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal and Tottenham also interested.

It is understood that Butland, who is contracted to Birmingham until 2015, is only interested in a move away from St Andrew’s if he can be guaranteed some first team football.

He is likely to get that at Birmingham next season with the Blues expected to cash in on Ben Foster this summer.

For Nigel Adkins that would mean having drop Championship keeper of the year Davis or somehow change Butland’s mind to convince him he will be the long term replacement for Davis who turns 36 in September.

Comments(95)

theamazingrob says...
1:30pm Tue 5 Jun 12

I think Kelvin should get first pick for between the sticks this season. With the promise to Butland of first team season after and cups this season. However, I don't see him accepting that offer.

costa gaz says...
1:41pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Would love to see this one come off...
Young hungry group of players coming in, the futures bright.
Any news on J Rod?

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...
2:05pm Tue 5 Jun 12

At the right price , Butland could be gold , but Kelvin done us proud last season , so its more like SHARE duty s

boondocksaint08 says...
2:22pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Be interesting to see how this plays out, don't think he would be interested in a move to any of the other PL teams as they all seem to have their set #1's between the sticks maybe with the exception of Tottenham as Freidel is getting up their in age. Fingers crossed that perhaps some first team time split with Davis would be enough for him!

St.Yorkie says...
2:31pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Strange to think we are after a young goalkeeper - usually they get better with age!
As for displacing Kelvin - I think it would be good to get him in and say to him "The shirt is up for grabs - you will get your chance if you earn it!"
Competiton for Kelvin - I think both goalkeepers would thrive on the competition - more important is how our defence cope with a 19-year old rookie as against someone who has been there for years!
Goalkeepers are potential match winners - Kelvin had a mare with Sunderland last time he was there...I think he deserves another shot, but with someone snapping at his heels!

RedArmy1 says...
2:31pm Tue 5 Jun 12

I say ... Get Butland In ...

He will get first Team football and Kelvin and him can fight to be Number One Choice ...

It will be a change to have some real competition for the Number One Slot.

IMO Bart was a good guy but a fraud - who took the money week in week out and never seriously challenged to be Number One.

RED ARMY 2012. FIGHT AND WIN.

SOUTHAMPTON AND ENGLAND.

up saints says...
2:37pm Tue 5 Jun 12

is this just more paper talk to fill the echo.after pinching the story else where.j rod story gone quite too

Condor Man says...
2:54pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Peter Shilton told Leicester he'd leave at 18 unless they played him so they sold Gordon Banks to Stoke. Davis is nowhere near in that league, if Butland is THAT good let's see what he can do. Also, who on earth gave Tommy Forecast such a long deal?

St Graz says...
3:13pm Tue 5 Jun 12

This is definately in keeping with bringing in good youngsters - been a bit bored over the BH so I liked a football transfer page on fbook and it's rumouring Danny Guthrie and Marius Zaliukas who I think is the Hearts captain. A few might be waiting until after the euros I suppose in case they can increase their values but it has got a bit quiet. Still whinging on the skunt site about Kanu and TBH - I'm sure Rangers made a few redundant - why don't they???

JohnItaly says...
3:25pm Tue 5 Jun 12

With some of the major clubs showing an interest it would be a major coup if Saints could land Butland and it would clearly endorse the club's commitment to itself becoming a big player in the Premiership. Such a signing may also encourage other young and talented players to consider Saints and act as a spur for our home grown talent to stick with the Saints and not move on to what they think will be "bigger and better things".

ghk230473 says...
3:42pm Tue 5 Jun 12

We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!

sainyglen74 says...
3:51pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Tricky one to Call but Man City took their chance on Joe Hart at far less a price and Man Utd did on De Gea who well erm there you go anyway.
Not proven so to try and get straight into a premier league side is a big ask. Its about time Kelvin had serious competition though, especially at this level and if he is good enough and confident enough to get to 1st choice he will make the right choice. Kelvin has been a great player for us and didn't leave when he could have done but has not exactly had a serious competitor for his jersey since he has been here. Would welcome a serious contender for the number 1 jersey for the saints. The story sounds similar to signing Tim Flowers who started off with a nightmare but didn't take long to win over the fans.

Strasbourg Saint says...
3:54pm Tue 5 Jun 12

I can't see us signing anyone who 'demands' first-team football. What sort of attitude is that?

Having said that, I doubt very much that Butland would be demanding first-team football anyway. It's more likely he would demand a 'chance' of it rather than signing for a team where he has little or no chance of being in the frame for a year or more (i.e. Man City). On that basis, I think we'd have a great chance of landing him. It reminds me of when a very young, untried Tim Flowers signed.

sainyglen74 says...
4:09pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!
Well Bart and Connolly have gone as well as fringe players like Doble Harlee dean and Aarraan Racine. I think others will follow but due to transfer negotiations. This is now serious business as we have exceeded our expectations so there is a massive amount of work to be done no doubt about it. If we want to challenge and stay up there the work starts now and I think by the new pricing structure for tickets put in place and a new kit coming soon this will all go towards maintaining a solid infrastructure.

Baddesley Bill says...
4:09pm Tue 5 Jun 12

St Graz wrote:
This is definately in keeping with bringing in good youngsters - been a bit bored over the BH so I liked a football transfer page on fbook and it's rumouring Danny Guthrie and Marius Zaliukas who I think is the Hearts captain. A few might be waiting until after the euros I suppose in case they can increase their values but it has got a bit quiet. Still whinging on the skunt site about Kanu and TBH - I'm sure Rangers made a few redundant - why don't they???
I'm given to believe that contract law is different north of the border...the skunts are stuck with the deadwood.
Good lesson for us during this crucial period. Every signing we make needs to be a good investment. If potential players make unreasonable demands...walk away.

ghk230473 says...
4:14pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
I can't see us signing anyone who 'demands' first-team football. What sort of attitude is that?

Having said that, I doubt very much that Butland would be demanding first-team football anyway. It's more likely he would demand a 'chance' of it rather than signing for a team where he has little or no chance of being in the frame for a year or more (i.e. Man City). On that basis, I think we'd have a great chance of landing him. It reminds me of when a very young, untried Tim Flowers signed.
I hope we do, they're players we want. There's too many players in our squad that aren't premier class.

sainyglen74 says...
4:15pm Tue 5 Jun 12

sainyglen74 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!
Well Bart and Connolly have gone as well as fringe players like Doble Harlee dean and Aarraan Racine. I think others will follow but due to transfer negotiations. This is now serious business as we have exceeded our expectations so there is a massive amount of work to be done no doubt about it. If we want to challenge and stay up there the work starts now and I think by the new pricing structure for tickets put in place and a new kit coming soon this will all go towards maintaining a solid infrastructure.
Just gutted that in theory my price has risen nearly 100% due to kids change in policy but never mind. Perhaps I can afford the odd game instead.

ghk230473 says...
4:25pm Tue 5 Jun 12

sainyglen74 wrote:
sainyglen74 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!
Well Bart and Connolly have gone as well as fringe players like Doble Harlee dean and Aarraan Racine. I think others will follow but due to transfer negotiations. This is now serious business as we have exceeded our expectations so there is a massive amount of work to be done no doubt about it. If we want to challenge and stay up there the work starts now and I think by the new pricing structure for tickets put in place and a new kit coming soon this will all go towards maintaining a solid infrastructure.
Just gutted that in theory my price has risen nearly 100% due to kids change in policy but never mind. Perhaps I can afford the odd game instead.
Which ever way you look at it, loyal season ticket holders could have been awarded more than £25 and moving/cutting capacity of family section is a bit tight too.

OSPREYSAINT says...
4:26pm Tue 5 Jun 12

The bit about demanding a promise of First Team football is probably paper talk, but the last thing we need, is Players who want to tell the Gaffer what he should be doing. If we get him, it will be up to himself to prove that he is good enough. We want Team Players, not Prima Donnas, no matter how good they are, let their boots do the talking or otherwise keep their opinions to themselves.

Red n White says...
4:40pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Do we really want a keeper who's not played above League 2 level starting in goal every week in the Premiership? If he was willing to be back-up and play the cup games and odd league game for a season or two, then I think he'd be a good buy. Had to laugh at the mention of Forecast, never gonna cut it here, wasn't he returned earlyby Grimsby as he wasn't good enough for them?! This is the same keeper that couldn't even challenge Bart for no.2 keeper. I think the problem is we can't give him away

OSPREYSAINT says...
4:41pm Tue 5 Jun 12

sainyglen74 wrote:
sainyglen74 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!
Well Bart and Connolly have gone as well as fringe players like Doble Harlee dean and Aarraan Racine. I think others will follow but due to transfer negotiations. This is now serious business as we have exceeded our expectations so there is a massive amount of work to be done no doubt about it. If we want to challenge and stay up there the work starts now and I think by the new pricing structure for tickets put in place and a new kit coming soon this will all go towards maintaining a solid infrastructure.
Just gutted that in theory my price has risen nearly 100% due to kids change in policy but never mind. Perhaps I can afford the odd game instead.
Same problem here, two adults, 1 pensioner, two kids = no concessions, makes a heck of a difference. Was happy to pay the extra for Premier, but this is a bit unfair in my opinion.

Malcy says...
4:45pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Interesting for a young talented Player who could be a natural but good Managers know a good Player and Nigel Adkins is a very good Manager, do people remember that a young Bruce Grobbelaar was signed when at Crewe just by warming up before kick off by Bob Paisley? I agree with OSPRESAINT Prima Donnas will not be allowed to Play for Southampton, Nigel has got the Team together as one not as individuals and to be all Mates, Jason Pucheon broke rank last season and sufferered, Players should not go around like " Don't you know who I am" they need the Supporters as do the Supporters need good popular Players, in Nigel Adkins the Supporters trust, he is going to make Southampton Football Club like another Manu, known the world over

Baddesley Bill says...
4:54pm Tue 5 Jun 12

GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.

ghk230473 says...
5:03pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience

slugger says...
5:07pm Tue 5 Jun 12

the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .

slugger says...
5:10pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
all this "demanding" makes me smile ............ who's up for helping to pay for it ?

Fatty x Ford Worker says...
5:17pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Got to earn the shirt mate kiddies who rattle the pram aint welcome!

Strasbourg Saint says...
5:17pm Tue 5 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.

ghk230473 says...
5:50pm Tue 5 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
all this "demanding" makes me smile ............ who's up for helping to pay for it ?
As above

ghk230473 says...
5:52pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.
Any potential signing that is happy to warm the bench is not worth the ink.

Strasbourg Saint says...
5:57pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.
Any potential signing that is happy to warm the bench is not worth the ink.
There's a big difference between 'being happy to warm the bench' and 'demanding to start, regardless of form'.

slugger says...
6:05pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.
Any potential signing that is happy to warm the bench is not worth the ink.
earning the right to play is a million miles away from "happy to warm the bench" ........ do i have to spell everything out ?

ghk230473 says...
6:06pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.
Any potential signing that is happy to warm the bench is not worth the ink.
There's a big difference between 'being happy to warm the bench' and 'demanding to start, regardless of form'.
I wouldn't sign him any way, like I mentioned earlier, Paul robinson, c. Gordon and Ben foster.

OSPREYSAINT says...
6:10pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
the don will never agree to gauranteed 1st team football ........ you must earn the right to play , if he don't want to take the risk then niether should we imo .
imo, as well, Slugger.
Any potential signing that is happy to warm the bench is not worth the ink.
There's a big difference between 'being happy to warm the bench' and 'demanding to start, regardless of form'.
I wouldn't sign him any way, like I mentioned earlier, Paul robinson, c. Gordon and Ben foster.
I am sure Nigel is on your wavelength, and as usual, we will be the last to know!

Bazz4saints says...
6:11pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Not going to happen, one of the top six clubs will come in like vultures....

franiow says...
6:18pm Tue 5 Jun 12

He probably wants the chance of first team football not demands it. He's in the England squad..suspect other teams will offer more as we surely won't take the risk.

ghk230743 says...
6:19pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.

Baddesley Bill says...
6:22pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.

sainyglen74 says...
6:25pm Tue 5 Jun 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
sainyglen74 wrote:
sainyglen74 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
We have a young keeper in forecast, need experience like Craig Gordon or Paul Robinson to name 2.
What's happened with Rodriguez? And why only Holmes out of the door?
Adkins tell him who you want and get them in, time is of the essence. He won't waste time asking you whats happening!
Well Bart and Connolly have gone as well as fringe players like Doble Harlee dean and Aarraan Racine. I think others will follow but due to transfer negotiations. This is now serious business as we have exceeded our expectations so there is a massive amount of work to be done no doubt about it. If we want to challenge and stay up there the work starts now and I think by the new pricing structure for tickets put in place and a new kit coming soon this will all go towards maintaining a solid infrastructure.
Just gutted that in theory my price has risen nearly 100% due to kids change in policy but never mind. Perhaps I can afford the odd game instead.
Same problem here, two adults, 1 pensioner, two kids = no concessions, makes a heck of a difference. Was happy to pay the extra for Premier, but this is a bit unfair in my opinion.
Yeah 1 child free per adult previously. My brother says no to jump in prices. Now two adults to free child ticket which means now i would need to spend £100 per child on top of my £200 hyke. £400 hyke? Thanks for my loyalty saints.

ghk230473 says...
6:29pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Bill, the tickets are what they are but to give £25 back as loyalty well you may as well not bother!
I'm not demanding massive player investment just some and I would like it sooner rather than later. Would you not tend to agree that IF we had signed sharp a little earlier for a bit more it would have helped all round. He would have settled and been fitter sooner and we may not have needed to rely so heavily on tad? I know hind sight is a wonderful thing but like wise now, get players in and others out ASAP and let them gel.

Baddesley Bill says...
6:43pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Bill, the tickets are what they are but to give £25 back as loyalty well you may as well not bother!
I'm not demanding massive player investment just some and I would like it sooner rather than later. Would you not tend to agree that IF we had signed sharp a little earlier for a bit more it would have helped all round. He would have settled and been fitter sooner and we may not have needed to rely so heavily on tad? I know hind sight is a wonderful thing but like wise now, get players in and others out ASAP and let them gel.
Most of the players are still on their holidays...be patient and try to show some trust in the ownership. It is they who have delivered our Club back to where it belongs.

St.Yorkie says...
6:43pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Blimey what a load of moaning minnies! Premiership football demands Premiership wages and hence ticket prices. Loyalty is a forgotten word. I'm not worried though as I'll pick and choose games! Football is a business after all. I enjoyed the ride up the divisions and it rekindled a lot of passion to go again - but there is a limit.
Success breeds contempt. So we filled the stadium for the last few games, we sold out the last few away games...inevitable as those wanted to jump on the winning bandwagon. I'll be back on my terms in Block 1 or Block 2 when I need a fix.
It is not a badge a season ticket - it's a luxury many cannot afford. If you can't afford it - live with it. It you can - stop moaning you have a club to be proud of!

slugger says...
6:48pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Bill, the tickets are what they are but to give £25 back as loyalty well you may as well not bother!
I'm not demanding massive player investment just some and I would like it sooner rather than later. Would you not tend to agree that IF we had signed sharp a little earlier for a bit more it would have helped all round. He would have settled and been fitter sooner and we may not have needed to rely so heavily on tad? I know hind sight is a wonderful thing but like wise now, get players in and others out ASAP and let them gel.
sorry to butt in ....... i hear what you're saying but who pays for it ? ........... the club is trying to be sustainable , we have to do our bit (dig deeper into our pockets) if we want to progress ......... it's simple as heck to me (but i am a simple person).

ghk230473 says...
6:59pm Tue 5 Jun 12

£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo

slugger says...
7:02pm Tue 5 Jun 12

our squad is settled already ......... two or three additions would be cool but on our terms , not theirs !

batesieboy says...
7:06pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.

OSPREYSAINT says...
7:21pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
Preaching to the converted here I think, we all know what we need, whether we get it or not, that is something else and of course we will be last to know, so patience please, NA is going nowhere for a while.

batesieboy says...
7:23pm Tue 5 Jun 12

1. Southampton Football CLUB should have shown a little more sensitivity in the pricing of season tickets. Many people who remained faithful in some pretty poor times have not been thanked for this loyalty. Shame.
2. It is obvious that SFC needs to strengthen the squad in order to survive what is going to be a physically and mentally stronger, faster League. But do not break the Bank to do this. Season ticket money is not the only way forward...SPONSORSHI
P is going to be so important to Clubs from now on. Start now (learning from the non-profit organisations)
3. Do not believe the Press talk about "demanding" I doubt the player in question said this, so please grow up people and consider the source before getting on your high horses about what a 19 year old probably did not say at all.

ghk230473 says...
7:27pm Tue 5 Jun 12

batesieboy wrote:
ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.
Batsie you've been mugged off, look closer at who posts

long memory says...
7:29pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
I have to agree with GHK.Although I would hate to see NA be dismissed,I think NC will give him 10/15 games to show he is up to the challenge,if he doesn't deliver in that period he will be gone.Pep Guardiola' will be waiting in the wings

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...
7:32pm Tue 5 Jun 12

What a load of rubbish from the posters who seem to think that Aitkins will get the push. Remembering it is a public holiday, one would not expect signings at the moment. If Rodriguez is to come! We will have to wait until he arrives back from Mexico. I that we do sign the likes of Rodriguez, Butland and Ince. All in my view are future England Internationals. We have a good decated squad. Sluggers is right about a few additions coming in. I remember back in 1978 Lawrie only brought in two players, Golac and Curran. We will be fine next season.

slugger says...
7:34pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.
Batsie you've been mugged off, look closer at who posts
ah ha ! ........ never spotted the difference ....... it ain't me , honest !

Baddesley Bill says...
7:49pm Tue 5 Jun 12

batesieboy wrote:
1. Southampton Football CLUB should have shown a little more sensitivity in the pricing of season tickets. Many people who remained faithful in some pretty poor times have not been thanked for this loyalty. Shame.
2. It is obvious that SFC needs to strengthen the squad in order to survive what is going to be a physically and mentally stronger, faster League. But do not break the Bank to do this. Season ticket money is not the only way forward...SPONSORSHI

P is going to be so important to Clubs from now on. Start now (learning from the non-profit organisations)
3. Do not believe the Press talk about "demanding" I doubt the player in question said this, so please grow up people and consider the source before getting on your high horses about what a 19 year old probably did not say at all.
Just to pick you up on point 1... Our loyal fans were thanked when the current regime came in and saved our Club from total extinction. Perhaps those who feel they are owed something financially could apply in writing to Rupert Lowe?
Totally agree with points 2 and 3 though ;O)

Confucious says...
7:54pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Blimey, not too cheerful on here tonight - bit like a bunch of pall bearers peeling onions.

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:00pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Confucious wrote:
Blimey, not too cheerful on here tonight - bit like a bunch of pall bearers peeling onions.
ha ha. but batsie boy is right on all 3 points how come people will find the money now for ST's when they could not be bothered the last few years. not true fans IMO.

slugger says...
8:04pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Blimey, not too cheerful on here tonight - bit like a bunch of pall bearers peeling onions.
ha ha. but batsie boy is right on all 3 points how come people will find the money now for ST's when they could not be bothered the last few years. not true fans IMO.
here we go again ! .... lol

batesieboy says...
8:06pm Tue 5 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.
Batsie you've been mugged off, look closer at who posts
ah ha ! ........ never spotted the difference ....... it ain't me , honest !
Apologies to the real GHK...but how many of us can spend the time scrutinising every name to check who we are actually responding to?! Apologies also go to Confucious for not being a bit more cheerful! Bill, we will have to agree to differ on that point!
COYS...so proud to have a Club like this to follow! Everyone I meet knows I am a Saint, and why!

slugger says...
8:13pm Tue 5 Jun 12

batesieboy wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
batesieboy wrote:
ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.
Batsie you've been mugged off, look closer at who posts
ah ha ! ........ never spotted the difference ....... it ain't me , honest !
Apologies to the real GHK...but how many of us can spend the time scrutinising every name to check who we are actually responding to?! Apologies also go to Confucious for not being a bit more cheerful! Bill, we will have to agree to differ on that point!
COYS...so proud to have a Club like this to follow! Everyone I meet knows I am a Saint, and why!
i think that your point "having a club like this to follow" is the main thing we all agree about ......... we just squabble about the finer points .,........ not too bad really . COYR !!

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:17pm Tue 5 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Blimey, not too cheerful on here tonight - bit like a bunch of pall bearers peeling onions.
ha ha. but batsie boy is right on all 3 points how come people will find the money now for ST's when they could not be bothered the last few years. not true fans IMO.
here we go again ! .... lol
true though, your not a plumber are you?

slugger says...
8:23pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Blimey, not too cheerful on here tonight - bit like a bunch of pall bearers peeling onions.
ha ha. but batsie boy is right on all 3 points how come people will find the money now for ST's when they could not be bothered the last few years. not true fans IMO.
here we go again ! .... lol
true though, your not a plumber are you?
depends ........... how much money you got ?

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:25pm Tue 5 Jun 12

good answer!

upwherewebelong says...
8:31pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Think Butland could be a great signing. And I might be alone in thinking this but are people really being intellingent and thinking things through properly when they say Adkins could/should go ? he's been succesful beyond my expectations so the unhelpful speculation should cease. And whats the rush for signings it is only June 5 don't think the transfer window is even officially open yet for domestic transfers. Patience guys !! best things come to those who wait EG Hooiveld last season !

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:31pm Tue 5 Jun 12

not a lot, saving for a season ticket

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:37pm Tue 5 Jun 12

upwherewebelong wrote:
Think Butland could be a great signing. And I might be alone in thinking this but are people really being intellingent and thinking things through properly when they say Adkins could/should go ? he's been succesful beyond my expectations so the unhelpful speculation should cease. And whats the rush for signings it is only June 5 don't think the transfer window is even officially open yet for domestic transfers. Patience guys !! best things come to those who wait EG Hooiveld last season !
exactly, Nigel is going nowhere and the incoming players will come trust in our management, they havn't let us down yet

Baddesley Bill says...
8:41pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
Ain't we all! No worries though...Slugger is cheap...he offers £25 discount to STH's ;O)

Red n White says...
8:47pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:53pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?

ghk230473 says...
8:58pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
Or insult?

Confucious says...
9:00pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
I asked my Auntie Elspeth for help on that front. She gave me a lump of coal and said if I put it up my backside and kept it there long enough it would turn into a diamond. Hoping two months will do the trick.

Baddesley Bill says...
9:10pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
Or insult?
If you want to give me £25, I promise I won't be insulted.

slugger says...
9:14pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?
oh no i don't ........ st holders are obviously more affluent ....... skin em !

worried of n e hampshire says...
9:18pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Confucious wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
I asked my Auntie Elspeth for help on that front. She gave me a lump of coal and said if I put it up my backside and kept it there long enough it would turn into a diamond. Hoping two months will do the trick.
for that to work you must weigh roughly 250 million tonnes, so I hope your sat in row A at SMS!

worried of n e hampshire says...
9:32pm Tue 5 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?
oh no i don't ........ st holders are obviously more affluent ....... skin em !
or effluent?

slugger says...
9:44pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?
oh no i don't ........ st holders are obviously more affluent ....... skin em !
or effluent?
not at all , st holders are the life-blood of our club .......... all us mere mortals who pay more per game and keep the club going during the season should bow down and accept their superiour status ........... that should get a tickle !

slugger says...
9:44pm Tue 5 Jun 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
£25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?
oh no i don't ........ st holders are obviously more affluent ....... skin em !
or effluent?
not at all , st holders are the life-blood of our club .......... all us mere mortals who pay more per game and keep the club going during the season should bow down and accept their superiour status ........... that should get a tickle !

worried of n e hampshire says...
9:48pm Tue 5 Jun 12

sorry, thats not what i meant, i dont actually know what i meant? were all Saints fans that is all that matters. again sorry.

slugger says...
9:58pm Tue 5 Jun 12

agreed . lol

hedge end bob says...
10:26pm Tue 5 Jun 12

batesieboy wrote:
ghk230743 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
In fact, when it comes to Adkins, "I predict adkins will be gone before end of the year. I do not see adkins as manager in 2013"

As I said after the Burnley game last year.

I'm seeing it again; despite it now being the 5th June, he hasn't yet signed all the players I'd like him to sign, so I now feel that NC will be considering the sack for him.
Because the players YOU want to sign have not been, NC will sack him. GHK you are a nut case.
Only read up to your post but agree 100% with what you say. This guy was singing the same song all last season, it must be his signature song.
NIGEL ADKINS IS THE BEST MANAGER WE HAVE HAD AT OUR CLUB FOR A LONG TIME. I dont think it will be a case of him being booted out but a case of NICOLA TRYING TO GET HIM TO STAY.
IMO the two of them have sorted out who they want and when their targets are back from holidays the players will come through the front door.
My ticket price has gone up double what i was expecting as an O A P , but life goes on and the choice is mine . I can pay up and support my local team or i can simply walk. Come the K O i will be sat in block 4 ITCHEN NORTH and it cant come soon enough.
Any player we sign will have to except that they are a squad player that will only play each week if and only if they are in better form than the next man , and as a fan i would'nt want it any other way. Those that demand to play should not be entertained.

hedge end bob says...
10:38pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Slugger i am a sth but i am not superiour than you. It's just that i can afford to go each home game and i have the time to do it. When you reach my age i hope you will be in the same boat.

hedge end bob says...
10:51pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
Ain't we all! No worries though...Slugger is cheap...he offers £25 discount to STH's ;O)
bill there is three of us season ticket holders that wants a plumber to do a job at a cost of£60 , does that mean he will do the job and give us £15 ???

Baddesley Bill says...
10:58pm Tue 5 Jun 12

hedge end bob wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
Ain't we all! No worries though...Slugger is cheap...he offers £25 discount to STH's ;O)
bill there is three of us season ticket holders that wants a plumber to do a job at a cost of£60 , does that mean he will do the job and give us £15 ???
Yes...(naturally I do take a £50 management fee though as I do have a child and ST to pay for) :O)

Matt maleski says...
11:17pm Tue 5 Jun 12

We've apparently bid 3m for him and tottenham have outbid us

hedge end bob says...
11:19pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
not a lot, saving for a season ticket
Ain't we all! No worries though...Slugger is cheap...he offers £25 discount to STH's ;O)
bill there is three of us season ticket holders that wants a plumber to do a job at a cost of£60 , does that mean he will do the job and give us £15 ???
Yes...(naturally I do take a £50 management fee though as I do have a child and ST to pay for) :O)
Christ if he gives you £ 50 and us £ 15 no wonder he cant afford a S T. Makes you feel like getting some one else to do the job ....thanks Bill.

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:39pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Not that it's any of my business, as I'm not a STH and am unlikely to be one in the near future, but one way of looking at the £25 discount to current STHs who renew is that it's something like one free matchday ticket.

I seem to remember some people posting on here last year that it would be nice for the club to reward the loyalty of 'certain' fans ....... STHs, regular travelling fans and those who went to Charlton and had to turn back at the last minute etc....... was to give them one free matchday ticket. It seems that that's what the club has done.

Just a thought!

SFCOLDBOY says...
11:40pm Tue 5 Jun 12

hedge end bob wrote:
Slugger i am a sth but i am not superiour than you. It's just that i can afford to go each home game and i have the time to do it. When you reach my age i hope you will be in the same boat.
I agree with you.
I couldn't watch the Saints during the Lowe years.
Couldn't afford the prices. Family and mortgage commitments,added to that couldn't bring myself to help fill his coffers, using Saints as a cash cow to finance his other businesses.
I am a season ticket holder and this will be my 3rd re-newall.
I was as shocked as anyone about the increases,this said it will not deter me. I will probably retire in about 6 years and I hope to see this great team be a force in the Prem and Europe, whilst I can still afford it.
COYR

ghk230473 says...
6:38am Wed 6 Jun 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Not that it's any of my business, as I'm not a STH and am unlikely to be one in the near future, but one way of looking at the £25 discount to current STHs who renew is that it's something like one free matchday ticket.

I seem to remember some people posting on here last year that it would be nice for the club to reward the loyalty of 'certain' fans ....... STHs, regular travelling fans and those who went to Charlton and had to turn back at the last minute etc....... was to give them one free matchday ticket. It seems that that's what the club has done.

Just a thought!
I'm not a sth, but it's not just the slap in the face discount but the 'moving of the goals with regards to family section.
Fingers crossed we will see some signings in the very near future to justify this.

St Graz says...
8:03am Wed 6 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
St Graz wrote:
This is definately in keeping with bringing in good youngsters - been a bit bored over the BH so I liked a football transfer page on fbook and it's rumouring Danny Guthrie and Marius Zaliukas who I think is the Hearts captain. A few might be waiting until after the euros I suppose in case they can increase their values but it has got a bit quiet. Still whinging on the skunt site about Kanu and TBH - I'm sure Rangers made a few redundant - why don't they???
I'm given to believe that contract law is different north of the border...the skunts are stuck with the deadwood.
Good lesson for us during this crucial period. Every signing we make needs to be a good investment. If potential players make unreasonable demands...walk away.
Thanks Bill that makes sense - must stick in their throats though that a couple of Rangers players simply walked away for the good of the club. Honourable. The same FB site is now saying Butland could be guaranteed 1st team the season after next and quoting £3M. If he does come he'll be under no illusion that it's NA & NCs' way or nowt!! No idea what their sources are - may just be rehashed from the papers but it's had more saints transfer talk on there in the last few days than the echo could muster so it's been fun.

WobblyCat says...
8:22am Wed 6 Jun 12

slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
slugger wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Red n White wrote:
ghk230473 wrote: £25 even the staunch supporters would have to agree is an insult, why bother? I'm not going to whinge about that but to get a settled squad ASAP. To stay up I think any half wit knows we need to strengthen, I'm not saying bust the bank maybe speculate to accumulate. Goalie and no non sense central midfielder are a must imo
I'm sure if you phoned up and said that you're not happy with the £25 discount they'd be happy for you to pay the full amount of a brand new one. It's not a huge discount, but it is a discount
aparantly even slugger gives a £25 discount to ST holders?
oh no i don't ........ st holders are obviously more affluent ....... skin em !
or effluent?
not at all , st holders are the life-blood of our club .......... all us mere mortals who pay more per game and keep the club going during the season should bow down and accept their superiour status ........... that should get a tickle !
Someone has finally realised that you are not currently a season ticket holder but still a 'true' Saints fan Slugger, same as me! Southampton Football Club is something for the whole community to share and be proud of not a social clique for the more fortunate.

Alicesdad says...
9:21am Wed 6 Jun 12

Getting back to the point. Lets keep this simple.

We need a new goalkeeper.

Kelvin has been a true marvel, but the time will soon be here for him to step aside and younger blood will replace him.

Obviously it has to be on merit so any new boys will not get guarantees, nobody does.

So when a new boy arrives he will get his chance. Kelvin knows this. For a man of his age to be a premiership keeper even a reserve keeper is still a great tribute to him.

His loyalty is undoubted but the hard facts are that we need to build for the future and that means getting in another keeper who will eventually replace him.

This should not lead to crtiticism of NA (or NC) , it's the business they are in. I see no reason at all to doubt either of them and all this nonsense about NA being on trial has no real foundation. All premiership managers are on trial all of the time, it never stops, no matter how succesful they are.

As for season tickets, we are Premier League !! They will be expensive. We are a major corporate business and this is the price you pay these days.

There has been a massive cultural change in football support since the premiership arrived. It's no longer a cheap afternoon out and never will be again at the top level. I do not believe the club are doing anything wrong on this front at tye moment. It's a free market and if they overprice the tickets they lose sales. They have to test the water and look at other clubs, which I think they have done.

These are uncomfortable months for fans, we want the new season to start and see outr team playing the big clubs again, we want to be a big club too. It's all good. But the delay is frustrating and when there is no knews we start getting restless.

Best to just sit back, watch the Euro 2012, check out the Olympics and bide our time.

lowe esteem says...
1:23pm Wed 6 Jun 12

I will watch Bart's future with interest, and hope he can turn the trajectory back round.
Who know's he might star for Cheltenham and then get head-hunted by the big-boys?

Glenn(Leeds) says...
4:14pm Wed 6 Jun 12

Just an update regarding Jay Rod.
Whilst stood by the reception desk waiting to go into the gym this morning at 5.45am, my mate mentioned had we signed Jay Rod yet and without any prompting the girl behind the reception said "did you say Jay Rodriguez", I said yes and she replied (without knowing I am a saints fan) " he's off to Southampton. Turns out she is best mates with him having known him since they were kids, she then went on to say that he is on holiday at the moment and will be joining when he comes back, we will se how that pans out then.COYR

montecristosaint says...
12:02am Thu 7 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Youve got this wrong mate. Adkins does not sign players Cortese does you can count on it.All Adkins does is what any manager should and that is tell his chairman who he would like.
The rest is down to Cortese. Good grief you ought to know this by now!!!!

montecristosaint says...
12:02am Thu 7 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Youve got this wrong mate. Adkins does not sign players Cortese does you can count on it.All Adkins does is what any manager should and that is tell his chairman who he would like.
The rest is down to Cortese. Good grief you ought to know this by now!!!!

montecristosaint says...
12:02am Thu 7 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Youve got this wrong mate. Adkins does not sign players Cortese does you can count on it.All Adkins does is what any manager should and that is tell his chairman who he would like.
The rest is down to Cortese. Good grief you ought to know this by now!!!!

montecristosaint says...
12:13am Thu 7 Jun 12

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
GHK...in one comment you demand premiership class players....in the very next you suggest the STH concessions should be better. I tend to sympathise that some of us will be paying a lot more due to policy changes ..but my over-riding thought is that you can't have it both ways...you seem to want your cake...and eat it.
There's plenty out there without breaking the bank. We haven't spent for a long while and delap is still a record signing!
I would like to get signings done sooner rather than later, and others out. That way the can bond and gel in pre-season matches instead of early season games. Qpr left it late and stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Adkins is back on trial and something tells me the don is not known for his patience
With respect...we (as a club) have posted losses over the last few seasons in order to make the big league. Our current squad have proven themselves too good for the championship. Of course I agree that we need to strengthen pre-season...but to read your "we want cheaper tickets and massive player investment" comments tends to gripe a little. Adkins will always be on trial...he was last season...and I trust that he is up to the job without having to mortgage our Club.
Youve got this wrong mate. Adkins does not sign players Cortese does you can count on it.All Adkins does is what any manager should and that is tell his chairman who he would like.
The rest is down to Cortese. Good grief you ought to know this by now!!!!

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