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Alexander Büttner's proposed move to Southampton looking 'uncertain'
9:09am Tuesday 10th July 2012 in Saints News
By Gordon Simpson, Senior Sports Reporter
Alexander Büttner
VITESSE Arnhem have revealed the transfer of Alexander Büttner to Saints is now "uncertain".
The Dutch side have blamed demands made by a "third party" which they say they will not be pressurised into accepting.
Vitesse have confirmed that Saints have acted "absolutely correctly" in their approach to the deal and are not to blame if it falls through.
A statement from the club said: "The transfer of Alexander Büttner to Southampton FC is now uncertain.
"Last Friday Vitesse came to an agreement with Southampton about the transfer of Alexander Büttner to the Premier League club.
"Because Büttner himself also agreed on his personal conditions with Southampton FC, Vitesse was in the supposition that the transfer was a fact, with the proviso that Büttner would pass a medical examination.
"However, in the course this weekend the player informed Vitesse via his agent that a third party had a supplementary demand towards the club.
"Vitesse gave to understand to the player that it would not comply with that demand, since it was applied in retrospect and Vitesse will not be pressurised.
"Vitesse is disappointed about the course of things, all the more because Vitesse negotiated with Southampton FC on the player's request.
"Southampton FC has taken up an absolute correct position and is not to blame for the possible fall through of the transfer. Vitesse have also tried all possible to keep the set deal going."
Comments(74)
dixonbox
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9:17am Tue 10 Jul 12
NC won't be held to ransom and it sounds like Vitesse are the same. Alex - it's over to you.........
ButtyIoWSaint
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9:17am Tue 10 Jul 12
The player informed Vitesse via his agent that a third party had a supplementary demand towards the club.
WTF is that all about?
Saints+Wigan fan
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9:19am Tue 10 Jul 12
White and red till dead
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9:20am Tue 10 Jul 12
EAGLESAINT
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9:21am Tue 10 Jul 12
upwherewebelong
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9:21am Tue 10 Jul 12
dixonbox
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9:23am Tue 10 Jul 12
Maybe his mum wants a refund on her Vitesse season ticket?
Jesus_02
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9:25am Tue 10 Jul 12
Bigrich1980
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9:26am Tue 10 Jul 12
franiow
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9:28am Tue 10 Jul 12
Darkangelv2
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9:45am Tue 10 Jul 12
Sounds like the whole Tevez - West Ham saga again!
No thanks!
montecristosaint
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9:48am Tue 10 Jul 12
What is more Saints are unlikely to get Butland unless he slams in a transfer request.
ButtyIoWSaint
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9:51am Tue 10 Jul 12
Ordered mine last week online but a glitch in the system meant that only £1 was taken from my bank account for 2 season tickets. Thought I'd got lucky;) Rang them to find out when they will be sent, was told of a problem.
Sorted now though :)
If this has happened, You will need to give them your details again so they can take the correct amount.
They said that they will be contacting others that it affected, from today.
Jannersaint
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9:57am Tue 10 Jul 12
Hobson82
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10:01am Tue 10 Jul 12
montecristosaint wrote:Saints have just been unlucky, I'm sure everything will go through in the end, if not then I trust NA & NC have a plan B.
oh dear it seems Saints are into real problems recruiting players this summer.Buttner needs a lawyer and so does Davis. What is more Saints are unlikely to get Butland unless he slams in a transfer request.
billythesaint
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10:01am Tue 10 Jul 12
Koalee
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10:02am Tue 10 Jul 12
Jannersaint wrote:I thought the same
This smells of a sell on clause from Ajax.
ToastyTea
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10:03am Tue 10 Jul 12
Bigrich1980
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10:18am Tue 10 Jul 12
St Retford
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10:18am Tue 10 Jul 12
Jannersaint wrote:Innit. Surely Vitesse should have been aware of this before selling him though?
This smells of a sell on clause from Ajax.
Red n White
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10:20am Tue 10 Jul 12
DasLiebherrTrain
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10:20am Tue 10 Jul 12
Koalee wrote:Yes I thought this too. If so it is poor handling from Vitesse who should already be aware that a sell on clause exists and that they owe a percentage of any future transfer money for the player to the club they signed him from.
Jannersaint wrote: This smells of a sell on clause from Ajax.I thought the same
george chivers
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10:24am Tue 10 Jul 12
St Retford wrote:And Saints hopefully. So why does it go this far without showing up before?
Jannersaint wrote:Innit. Surely Vitesse should have been aware of this before selling him though?
This smells of a sell on clause from Ajax.
Confucious
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10:29am Tue 10 Jul 12
For ten years now I've been working on developing a tablet that will make my sperm taste like chocolate. I just hope I can do it before I'm too old to reap the rich rewards that I'm sure will ensue.
franiow
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10:50am Tue 10 Jul 12
OzSaintDave75
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11:13am Tue 10 Jul 12
SaintAsh1964
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11:16am Tue 10 Jul 12
Ih8sk8s
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11:19am Tue 10 Jul 12
How hard can it be to phone the other club and say i want ur player and they say ok lets talk money, agree and stick the player on a plane job done, 3rd party my ****!
saintsdan
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11:21am Tue 10 Jul 12
St.Yorkie
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11:27am Tue 10 Jul 12
If Buttner has history with an undesireable - then he doesn't appear to be the sort of player we want at our club.
Whatever the club is bigger than the player...move on!
rocketone
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11:47am Tue 10 Jul 12
allsaintsnocurves
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12:10pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Don't think this will scupper the deal. I also read somewhere that Buttner can play at right back so sounds like he has decent versatility that we need and would hampen the development of Shaw.
sarfhamton
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12:26pm Tue 10 Jul 12
OSPREYSAINT
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12:47pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Over the Edge
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12:49pm Tue 10 Jul 12
His agent must have thought Mr Cortese was soft touch, Vitesse won't pay him, I bet his agent thought Saints would.
Hahaha Mr Agent your player goes nowhere, you get no money, your player doesn't get his dream move to Saints.
Well done Mr Cortese and Vitesse, why should clubs pay players furthering their careers?
Over the Edge
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1:10pm Tue 10 Jul 12
sarfhamton wrote:Being born in Skateland, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Could be worse, we might have been born Pompey or Rangers fans
Alicesdad
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1:25pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Cortese and Vitesse seem to be behaving with suitable integrity and would surely have known about sell on clauses - so who else has in interest ?
Life was much simpler when agents weren't involved.
Q: What do you call 500 agents drowning in the English Channel ?
A: Not enough.
Alicesdad
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1:25pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Cortese and Vitesse seem to be behaving with suitable integrity and would surely have known about sell on clauses - so who else has in interest ?
Life was much simpler when agents weren't involved.
Q: What do you call 500 agents drowning in the English Channel ?
A: Not enough.
Alicesdad
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1:33pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Confucious wrote:These ideas come and go.
Oh well, soldier on - Rome wasn't built in a day.
For ten years now I've been working on developing a tablet that will make my sperm taste like chocolate. I just hope I can do it before I'm too old to reap the rich rewards that I'm sure will ensue.
You should put the idea on Dragons den.
Be careful though, they will want to diversify, you must be ready to produce other flavours, fruit and nut , whole nut, orange, and the one that helps you work rest and play.
So how's the market research coming along then ??
St Retford
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1:39pm Tue 10 Jul 12
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
Strasbourg Saint
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2:09pm Tue 10 Jul 12
The period over the next few weeks promises to be the usual pre-season rollercoaster ........
...... then it all calms down on 19 August!
JasperAG
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2:22pm Tue 10 Jul 12
I wasn't suggesting Harry takes a percentage from every transfer that occurs in the world.
Only that it reminds me that there are people other than clubs, players and agents expecting a payout.
Hobson82
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2:43pm Tue 10 Jul 12
He may well have struck up a deal reference free advertisment or something, just a thought.
St Retford
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2:53pm Tue 10 Jul 12
JasperAG wrote:Have you ever seen that youtube clip of Harry Redknapp when someone says he has a reputation for being a bit of a 'wheeler dealer'? You should search it - he goes totally arms house.
Why remove my comment about Harry Redknapp taking a percentage of transfer fees? This has been reported numerous times.
I wasn't suggesting Harry takes a percentage from every transfer that occurs in the world.
Only that it reminds me that there are people other than clubs, players and agents expecting a payout.
I imagine he wouldn't take kindly to the Echo for publishing your suggestions.
tugboat
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3:06pm Tue 10 Jul 12
rocketone wrote:Great Post-"step ladder", LMFAO
Demn unt blest, where is step ladder when you need clarification ?
Thanks for giving me my "smile a day" dose.
tugboat
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3:36pm Tue 10 Jul 12
JasperAG wrote:Sorry but its a bit low criticising ,one man and his dog(accountant).Afte
Why remove my comment about Harry Redknapp taking a percentage of transfer fees? This has been reported numerous times.
I wasn't suggesting Harry takes a percentage from every transfer that occurs in the world.
Only that it reminds me that there are people other than clubs, players and agents expecting a payout.
r all we are a nation of animal lovers.
Harry had no idea his dog was going to crack under pressure from alicescat.
Not his fault at all,blame the dog.All he had was a lead to go on -but that was enough.
Regards agents,bleach is an agent,use it ,get rid of them-parasites.
anderoo
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3:43pm Tue 10 Jul 12
dopplershift
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4:13pm Tue 10 Jul 12
.
I think this is all a smoke screen for something that NA & NC are going to announce soon. Something big that will put bums on seats. (and I'm not talking about the return of Dennis Rofe's half time entertainment!)
rocketone
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6:04pm Tue 10 Jul 12
SaintMark
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6:04pm Tue 10 Jul 12
anderoo wrote:I read it on SSN in my lunch break!
Have only read it on here, nothing on SSN at all about it. Im sure Sky would of picked up on it if it was anything serious
dadofmy3sons
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6:13pm Tue 10 Jul 12
rocketone wrote:7.30 kick off, £8 entrance under 16 free with adult.
Is game against Sholing tonight? And does it cost anything?
ElliotP
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6:16pm Tue 10 Jul 12
anderoo wrote:http://www1.skysport
Have only read it on here, nothing on SSN at all about it. Im sure Sky would of picked up on it if it was anything serious
s.com/football/news/
11700/7886201/Buttne
r-deal-in-doubt
Been on Skysports website since this morning ;)
GHamilton
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6:33pm Tue 10 Jul 12
anderoo
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6:46pm Tue 10 Jul 12
ElliotP wrote:Hadn't looked at SSN website....just read it on here and had SSN on the telly at the same time......apologies
anderoo wrote:http://www1.skysport
Have only read it on here, nothing on SSN at all about it. Im sure Sky would of picked up on it if it was anything serious
s.com/football/news/
11700/7886201/Buttne
r-deal-in-doubt
Been on Skysports website since this morning ;)
legod7
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7:53pm Tue 10 Jul 12
GHamilton wrote:If you READ it, it says it is to do with the agent NOT the player
Have n't read all comments on here but, simple answer from NC would be to tell him to **** off, deals off!!. Says something about a players personality when he starts making demands on a club he has recently served, and would probably try the same stunt with SFC if the club needed to get shot of him. How soon would it be before he was making demands here. Still NC is no fool, might just cut him off and look elsewhere.
pompey phil
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8:23pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Drape
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8:28pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Baddesley Bill
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8:48pm Tue 10 Jul 12
pompey phil wrote:TBH and Kanu seem very attached to Poopey...what's your secret for such stalwart loyalty? ;O)
See even the foreigners don't wanna sign for you even they know your ****,pup
SFCOLDBOY
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8:55pm Tue 10 Jul 12
pompey phil wrote:Come out of the woodwork yet again I see.
See even the foreigners don't wanna sign for you even they know your ****,pup
Your posts are so repetative and boring.
You must be a leg-end among your 4 remaining supporters.
Go back to your lot they must regard you as a hero, in the great fight against the enemy.
Sad.
Coyr,
slugger
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8:56pm Tue 10 Jul 12
pompey phil wrote:this doesn't even warrent a reply ........... DOH !
See even the foreigners don't wanna sign for you even they know your ****,pup
franiow
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10:03pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Strasbourg Saint
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10:12pm Tue 10 Jul 12
franiow wrote:On or off? Well, Fran, that covers all bases.
According to people ITK this deal is on or off :-) Apparently, we'll know tomorrow, but don't hold your breath.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:12pm Tue 10 Jul 12
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
slugger
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10:27pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:to soak fergie ..... i'd have one !
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
saintshorse101
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10:29pm Tue 10 Jul 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:why do you want sprinklers at the etihad? its in manchester its always raining there, just like here this summer but worse!
St Retford wrote: Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind. I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
long memory
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10:30pm Tue 10 Jul 12
StevieSteve
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10:46pm Tue 10 Jul 12
slugger wrote:To soak him just for one game a season?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:to soak fergie ..... i'd have one !
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
You want one of those Old Trafford sprinkler aps, slugger!
puppy saint
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12:11am Wed 11 Jul 12
StevieSteve wrote:I've got one that makes the ref involuntarily blow up 2 minutes into second half stoppage time despite Ferguson bullying 6 extra minutes out of the fourth official. It hasn't worked yet.
slugger wrote:To soak him just for one game a season?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:to soak fergie ..... i'd have one !
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
You want one of those Old Trafford sprinkler aps, slugger!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:31am Wed 11 Jul 12
puppy saint wrote:I've got a blow up ref too.
StevieSteve wrote:I've got one that makes the ref involuntarily blow up 2 minutes into second half stoppage time despite Ferguson bullying 6 extra minutes out of the fourth official. It hasn't worked yet.
slugger wrote:To soak him just for one game a season?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:to soak fergie ..... i'd have one !
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
You want one of those Old Trafford sprinkler aps, slugger!
flashhart2000
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3:59am Wed 11 Jul 12
saintsdan wrote:The player signs a contract with a sports agency firm and it's not too easy to get out of.
Surley if this is the agents fault buttner can sack his agent doent the agent get employed by the player?
You can't just sack them you have to buy yourself out.
I think the player and his agent might have been surprised by a little clause in the contract that may have been triggered by his initial call up to the national side or something. The agent's manager may have spotted this.
lowe esteem
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12:59pm Thu 12 Jul 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:It's called a tap.
St Retford wrote:Why do we what an app to turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad?
Never mind all this. I've just been told that the groundsman at Man City has an ap on his phone that lets him turn the sprinklers on at the Etihad from anywhere in the world. This has actually blown my mind.
I want us to get one of those rather than a left back.
lowe esteem
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1:02pm Thu 12 Jul 12
Alicesdad wrote:Fruit and Nut sounds apt, and what about Chicken and Egg, and which came first?
Confucious wrote:These ideas come and go.
Oh well, soldier on - Rome wasn't built in a day.
For ten years now I've been working on developing a tablet that will make my sperm taste like chocolate. I just hope I can do it before I'm too old to reap the rich rewards that I'm sure will ensue.
You should put the idea on Dragons den.
Be careful though, they will want to diversify, you must be ready to produce other flavours, fruit and nut , whole nut, orange, and the one that helps you work rest and play.
So how's the market research coming along then ??
lowe esteem
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1:07pm Thu 12 Jul 12
Hobson82 wrote:John Lydon has got involved now, something about image rights?
Has anyone considered that the 3rd party might be his tattooist or hairdresser??
He may well have struck up a deal reference free advertisment or something, just a thought.
BlandfordSaint says...
9:17am Tue 10 Jul 12
sibly no Buttner and no Davis. Blimey the season has not started and my heart is already racing. I suspect they will both go through though