Adkins' midfield dilemma

Saints’ preparations for the Premier League enter their final stages tomorrow – with Nigel Adkins searching for more answers to his midfield conundrum.

The manager will further sharpen his squad with a friendly at St Mary’s against Championship outfit Wolves.

The most fascinating aspect of pre-season so far has been the introduction of a fresh formation by Adkins.

Having graduated to the top level, he is keen to move away from the classic 4-4-2 that has served Saints so well in the past two seasons, instead fashioning his team into a more intricate 4-3-2-1 line-up.

With the club’s work in the transfer market so far incomplete, there is obviously still some evolving to be done.

For now, though, there is little doubt about what Adkins’ preferred personnel at the back is.

Kelvin Davis remains number one in goal, with new signing Nathaniel Clyne at right back, Danny Fox on the opposite side of defence, and centre halves Jose Fonte and Jos Hooiveld at the heart of it all.

Up front, Rickie Lambert remains the focal point – and is well built, both physically and metaphorically, for the role of a lone frontman – but it is in between where things are less certain.

Under the new formation, Adkins is deploying three centrally-based midfielders, with two more advanced widemen supporting Lambert.


The situation in those areas is currently fluid. Guly and record signing Jay Rodriguez provided the wide support to Lambert in last week’s 1-0 defeat against Ajax, but neither possesses the sort of searing pace that might be desired there.

Billy Sharp falls into the same category, as does Tadanari Lee, who remains sidelined through injury.


It is no secret that Saints are keen on adding some quick wingers to their ranks, and it is clear to see why.

Occupying the central positions last weekend were Morgan Schneiderlin, teenager James Ward-
Prowse and Adam Lallana.


Lallana is almost a guaranteed starter, although could certainly be utilised in a more advanced
role, but the other two positions are not so clear cut.

Adkins is still awaiting the return of Team GB representative Jack Cork, who he played in every league game last season.

He has also been without summer signing Steven Davis, with the ex-Rangers man having been out injured.


Beyond them, Dean Hammond and Richard Chaplow are also available, although both are facing
ever-increasing competition for a spot in the line-up.

There were some positive signs against Ajax last week that the new formation has potential,  but Adkins is still searching for the perfect blend.

He will have another valuable chance to tinker and experiment tomorrow, while he continues to work on upgrading the squad in the transfer market.


Time is ticking away, though.


After this weekend, there is just the visit to another Championship club, Bristol City, next Tuesday and the home fixture against Udinese a week tomorrow before the daunting trip to champions Manchester City beckons on August 19.

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10:46am Fri 3 Aug 12

franiow says...

I wonder what state Cork will be in when he returns from duty. He will have had competitive matches on the plus side, but will miss most of preseason. I think he will be behind other players in term of fitness.
I wonder what state Cork will be in when he returns from duty. He will have had competitive matches on the plus side, but will miss most of preseason. I think he will be behind other players in term of fitness. franiow
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10:54am Fri 3 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking.

I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces.

In NA I trust.

COYR
Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking. I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces. In NA I trust. COYR Over the Edge
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10:57am Fri 3 Aug 12

george chivers says...

I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points. george chivers
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11:01am Fri 3 Aug 12

Bigrich1980 says...

RB - Nathaniel Clyne i thought looked quality against ajax and is one of the best rb outside the top flight. With richardson as back up i dont think the RB area is a concern - the wings and CB is though.
RB - Nathaniel Clyne i thought looked quality against ajax and is one of the best rb outside the top flight. With richardson as back up i dont think the RB area is a concern - the wings and CB is though. Bigrich1980
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11:14am Fri 3 Aug 12

Paul TS says...

Need another centre back instead of Fonte.
Need another centre back instead of Fonte. Paul TS
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11:15am Fri 3 Aug 12

Cheapshot says...

IMO we need 2 CB and 2 midfielders and a LB. Agree about Fonte looking a wee bit out of his depth but would be great back up. Clyne looked class last weekend! I just hope we can get these new signings in before the big KO!
IMO we need 2 CB and 2 midfielders and a LB. Agree about Fonte looking a wee bit out of his depth but would be great back up. Clyne looked class last weekend! I just hope we can get these new signings in before the big KO! Cheapshot
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11:30am Fri 3 Aug 12

Barney123 says...

So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on!
So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on! Barney123
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11:37am Fri 3 Aug 12

Supersaintz says...

The squad we already have is good enough to avoid relegation. I agree that we need 1/2 central defenders, 1 more goalkeeper (as back up) and a winger would be nice. I think the line up against Ajax looked like a strong team. If you swap Guly out for Tadanari Lee and swap the midfield to fit in Davis and Cork we have a winning team!

Can't wait for the season to start. Who do you guys think we should add to the squad? Is Scott Dann worth £6m? If not who (realisticly) would you like us to bid for?
The squad we already have is good enough to avoid relegation. I agree that we need 1/2 central defenders, 1 more goalkeeper (as back up) and a winger would be nice. I think the line up against Ajax looked like a strong team. If you swap Guly out for Tadanari Lee and swap the midfield to fit in Davis and Cork we have a winning team! Can't wait for the season to start. Who do you guys think we should add to the squad? Is Scott Dann worth £6m? If not who (realisticly) would you like us to bid for? Supersaintz
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12:12pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

Barney123 wrote:
So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on!
I'm on my chair in my office, would you like it?
[quote][p][bold]Barney123[/bold] wrote: So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on![/p][/quote]I'm on my chair in my office, would you like it? Over the Edge
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12:30pm Fri 3 Aug 12

seventh-junction says...

4% think we will be relegated.......skun
ts on crack I presume
WTFILN
4% think we will be relegated.......skun ts on crack I presume WTFILN seventh-junction
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1:08pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Electrostar says...

What is happening about Buttner?
What is happening about Buttner? Electrostar
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1:36pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:46pm Fri 3 Aug 12

mack chinnon says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?
Come on Bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?[/p][/quote]Come on Bournemouth. mack chinnon
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1:47pm Fri 3 Aug 12

steveyot says...

OWS article statng NA to name his 25 man premier squad. With Barnard, Forte and Dickson all but gone he can currently only name 20 as all the others aged 21 and under are 'free' players.
OWS article statng NA to name his 25 man premier squad. With Barnard, Forte and Dickson all but gone he can currently only name 20 as all the others aged 21 and under are 'free' players. steveyot
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1:54pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach says...

I remember posting last season about the difference between getting your signings in early as opposed to late. Man City booked in early and Arsenal played LastMinute.Com, the results were clear to see with Gunners struggling early as the team chemistry had not had chance to evolve, while City sat on top of the pile.
Admitedly, in the second half of the season Gooners snatched 3rd position, so let’s not panic.
I remember posting last season about the difference between getting your signings in early as opposed to late. Man City booked in early and Arsenal played LastMinute.Com, the results were clear to see with Gunners struggling early as the team chemistry had not had chance to evolve, while City sat on top of the pile. Admitedly, in the second half of the season Gooners snatched 3rd position, so let’s not panic. Mush On The Beach
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2:40pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Confucious says...

Over the Edge wrote:
Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking.

I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces.

In NA I trust.

COYR
I'm not concerned if Nigel doesn't have a plan - or even worse if he has no plan to have a plan. I don't think his indecision will be final. Nicola will have ensured there's a procedure in place to contrive a blueprint of a plot for a strategy to formulate a new framework scenario. It won't be announced to the public, but inside Nicola's inner circle it will be known simply as "Nigel's Plan".

My only concern is that the plan will involve no required changes or actions - thus satisfying in full Nicola's demands for a 'clear plan' but to all intents and purposes being the same thing as having no plan.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking. I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces. In NA I trust. COYR[/p][/quote]I'm not concerned if Nigel doesn't have a plan - or even worse if he has no plan to have a plan. I don't think his indecision will be final. Nicola will have ensured there's a procedure in place to contrive a blueprint of a plot for a strategy to formulate a new framework scenario. It won't be announced to the public, but inside Nicola's inner circle it will be known simply as "Nigel's Plan". My only concern is that the plan will involve no required changes or actions - thus satisfying in full Nicola's demands for a 'clear plan' but to all intents and purposes being the same thing as having no plan. Confucious
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2:44pm Fri 3 Aug 12

tugboat says...

I think its taking shape very nicely,the club/NA have highlighted the shortfalls that are obvious to all and are actively addressing them.Lens would be top drawer,and a player plus cash swap for a winger with pace to burn would be great.
A squad full of ambition ,drive and hungry for success,and with the ability to show a few premier league,cheque book jockeys the way home-Bring it on.The saints are back.
I think its taking shape very nicely,the club/NA have highlighted the shortfalls that are obvious to all and are actively addressing them.Lens would be top drawer,and a player plus cash swap for a winger with pace to burn would be great. A squad full of ambition ,drive and hungry for success,and with the ability to show a few premier league,cheque book jockeys the way home-Bring it on.The saints are back. tugboat
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2:52pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes.
Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!!
Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes. Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!! Mush On The Beach
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2:56pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Saintsayer II says...

Confucious wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking.

I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces.

In NA I trust.

COYR
I'm not concerned if Nigel doesn't have a plan - or even worse if he has no plan to have a plan. I don't think his indecision will be final. Nicola will have ensured there's a procedure in place to contrive a blueprint of a plot for a strategy to formulate a new framework scenario. It won't be announced to the public, but inside Nicola's inner circle it will be known simply as "Nigel's Plan".

My only concern is that the plan will involve no required changes or actions - thus satisfying in full Nicola's demands for a 'clear plan' but to all intents and purposes being the same thing as having no plan.
I'm very glad that we have Confucious as our man on the inside how else would we know these things

As regards the skunts he he he is all i can say really serves them right And don't tell me the bit about it wasn't the fans who badly managed the club It wasn't but it was them who took the p155 when we were in trouble
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: Two wingers and another centre back, I worry for Jose Fonte in the big, he got caught far to often last season for my liking. I believe NA has identified who he wants and who he needs, it just a matter of time before we see some more new faces. In NA I trust. COYR[/p][/quote]I'm not concerned if Nigel doesn't have a plan - or even worse if he has no plan to have a plan. I don't think his indecision will be final. Nicola will have ensured there's a procedure in place to contrive a blueprint of a plot for a strategy to formulate a new framework scenario. It won't be announced to the public, but inside Nicola's inner circle it will be known simply as "Nigel's Plan". My only concern is that the plan will involve no required changes or actions - thus satisfying in full Nicola's demands for a 'clear plan' but to all intents and purposes being the same thing as having no plan.[/p][/quote]I'm very glad that we have Confucious as our man on the inside how else would we know these things As regards the skunts he he he is all i can say really serves them right And don't tell me the bit about it wasn't the fans who badly managed the club It wasn't but it was them who took the p155 when we were in trouble Saintsayer II
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3:03pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes.
Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!!
What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes. Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!![/p][/quote]What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:17pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes.
Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!!
What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery!
I see you Seed more as a Winter Olympian ..... frantically sweeping your broom to get the STONE down the ICE in Curling. Hang on, is your empire built on supplying drugs around Hampshire?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes. Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!![/p][/quote]What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery![/p][/quote]I see you Seed more as a Winter Olympian ..... frantically sweeping your broom to get the STONE down the ICE in Curling. Hang on, is your empire built on supplying drugs around Hampshire? Mush On The Beach
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3:32pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes.
Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!!
What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery!
I see you Seed more as a Winter Olympian ..... frantically sweeping your broom to get the STONE down the ICE in Curling. Hang on, is your empire built on supplying drugs around Hampshire?
Rumour and myth your honour, rumour and myth!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: Have you ever thought that you might be good at something but have not had the opportunity to try it and find out? I’ve watched the diving, cycling, gymnastics, rowing, water polo, basketball etc.... and thought enough respect to them, but it was never quite me in my sporting genes. Then I saw Archery, and thought I’m good at darts and drinking, I could have been an Olympic Champion ... Dohh!!![/p][/quote]What about sprinting? You lot from the convict colony must know how to show a clean pair of heels once you've nicked your mars bar. Mind you if you'd had any pace you'd still be here. Stick to the archery![/p][/quote]I see you Seed more as a Winter Olympian ..... frantically sweeping your broom to get the STONE down the ICE in Curling. Hang on, is your empire built on supplying drugs around Hampshire?[/p][/quote]Rumour and myth your honour, rumour and myth! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:41pm Fri 3 Aug 12

saintdave1976 says...

Pacy wingers??????
Pacy wingers?????? saintdave1976
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4:43pm Fri 3 Aug 12

saintdave1976 says...

Pacy wingers euro spot I think!!
Pacy wingers euro spot I think!! saintdave1976
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4:53pm Fri 3 Aug 12

miltonarcher says...

george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!! miltonarcher
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6:40pm Fri 3 Aug 12

hedge end bob says...

miltonarcher wrote:
george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!!
With you Milton, thought Clyne looked our no 1 RB. We do need cover at CB as been stated by most posters. I also think we need another LB and move Foxxy up to L M F, PLAY A L in a more central role behind R L.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!![/p][/quote]With you Milton, thought Clyne looked our no 1 RB. We do need cover at CB as been stated by most posters. I also think we need another LB and move Foxxy up to L M F, PLAY A L in a more central role behind R L. hedge end bob
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7:13pm Fri 3 Aug 12

george chivers says...

hedge end bob wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!!
With you Milton, thought Clyne looked our no 1 RB. We do need cover at CB as been stated by most posters. I also think we need another LB and move Foxxy up to L M F, PLAY A L in a more central role behind R L.
Sorry I meant LB.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]You dont rate Clyne then, I thought he looked class agaist Ajax!![/p][/quote]With you Milton, thought Clyne looked our no 1 RB. We do need cover at CB as been stated by most posters. I also think we need another LB and move Foxxy up to L M F, PLAY A L in a more central role behind R L.[/p][/quote]Sorry I meant LB. george chivers
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8:36pm Fri 3 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire says...

I think Saints are doing all they can to bring in new guys for the positions mentioned above but with a sensible budget to stick to it is obviously a bloody difficult task. touch wood we will have new signings next week COUR FOP!
I think Saints are doing all they can to bring in new guys for the positions mentioned above but with a sensible budget to stick to it is obviously a bloody difficult task. touch wood we will have new signings next week COUR FOP! worried of n e hampshire
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9:10pm Fri 3 Aug 12

saintbobby says...

So COYR and all that. I reckon if Saints finish in 17th position then for the 1st season back in the Premier, then that counts as job done.

The objective has to be a second season in the top flight, and then build on that. So any mis-placed loyalty or over optimism is really unhelpful. Just all of us should cheer them on as loudly as possible.

Nice to know that further signings to strengthen the back are being planned. We do need someone who knows what he's doing.

Also, let's hope the new, unrecgnisable shirts will not be a problem - I don't like them!!
So COYR and all that. I reckon if Saints finish in 17th position then for the 1st season back in the Premier, then that counts as job done. The objective has to be a second season in the top flight, and then build on that. So any mis-placed loyalty or over optimism is really unhelpful. Just all of us should cheer them on as loudly as possible. Nice to know that further signings to strengthen the back are being planned. We do need someone who knows what he's doing. Also, let's hope the new, unrecgnisable shirts will not be a problem - I don't like them!! saintbobby
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9:16pm Fri 3 Aug 12

St Retford says...

Barney123 wrote:
So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on!
We're on the bus, dude. You should get on it - it leaves in two weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Barney123[/bold] wrote: So far 10% of people on the poll think that Saints are going to win a place in Europe... I'd like whatever you're all on![/p][/quote]We're on the bus, dude. You should get on it - it leaves in two weeks. St Retford
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9:21pm Fri 3 Aug 12

St Retford says...

saintbobby wrote:
So COYR and all that. I reckon if Saints finish in 17th position then for the 1st season back in the Premier, then that counts as job done.

The objective has to be a second season in the top flight, and then build on that. So any mis-placed loyalty or over optimism is really unhelpful. Just all of us should cheer them on as loudly as possible.

Nice to know that further signings to strengthen the back are being planned. We do need someone who knows what he's doing.

Also, let's hope the new, unrecgnisable shirts will not be a problem - I don't like them!!
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: So COYR and all that. I reckon if Saints finish in 17th position then for the 1st season back in the Premier, then that counts as job done. The objective has to be a second season in the top flight, and then build on that. So any mis-placed loyalty or over optimism is really unhelpful. Just all of us should cheer them on as loudly as possible. Nice to know that further signings to strengthen the back are being planned. We do need someone who knows what he's doing. Also, let's hope the new, unrecgnisable shirts will not be a problem - I don't like them!![/p][/quote]I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence? St Retford
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9:22pm Fri 3 Aug 12

St Retford says...

I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence? St Retford
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9:25pm Fri 3 Aug 12

St Retford says...

O bugger - I posted that twice. Random question: does anyone here like Pavement?
O bugger - I posted that twice. Random question: does anyone here like Pavement? St Retford
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10:46pm Fri 3 Aug 12

truelysaints says...

On the present incomplete new buys we will finish just above relegation zone. What is the delay on all these promised new buys? We are still missing a decent backup goalkeeper let alone another 2 defenders. Slow, quick, quick, slow. I was worried before now I’m more worried, especially as our first game is against Manchester City away. I still don’t think we have a good enough premier league team. Now you can all slag me off. I’m just a realist, but just pray and hope I’m wrong. This does not make me any less a saint’s supporter, but I’m sure Ill gets a lot of flack
On the present incomplete new buys we will finish just above relegation zone. What is the delay on all these promised new buys? We are still missing a decent backup goalkeeper let alone another 2 defenders. Slow, quick, quick, slow. I was worried before now I’m more worried, especially as our first game is against Manchester City away. I still don’t think we have a good enough premier league team. Now you can all slag me off. I’m just a realist, but just pray and hope I’m wrong. This does not make me any less a saint’s supporter, but I’m sure Ill gets a lot of flack truelysaints
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11:36pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

truelysaints wrote:
On the present incomplete new buys we will finish just above relegation zone. What is the delay on all these promised new buys? We are still missing a decent backup goalkeeper let alone another 2 defenders. Slow, quick, quick, slow. I was worried before now I’m more worried, especially as our first game is against Manchester City away. I still don’t think we have a good enough premier league team. Now you can all slag me off. I’m just a realist, but just pray and hope I’m wrong. This does not make me any less a saint’s supporter, but I’m sure Ill gets a lot of flack
No we all want to see signings. However other teams will be competing for the same players, maybe offer more in transfer fees and wages. We can't offer wages that unbalance the dressing room. Keep the faith.

We have a new young keeper so I'd guess Butland is off as I can't see the point of buying two very young keepers. Was in Cardiff the other night and thought he was good but I'm sure the Argie will be good as well.
[quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: On the present incomplete new buys we will finish just above relegation zone. What is the delay on all these promised new buys? We are still missing a decent backup goalkeeper let alone another 2 defenders. Slow, quick, quick, slow. I was worried before now I’m more worried, especially as our first game is against Manchester City away. I still don’t think we have a good enough premier league team. Now you can all slag me off. I’m just a realist, but just pray and hope I’m wrong. This does not make me any less a saint’s supporter, but I’m sure Ill gets a lot of flack[/p][/quote]No we all want to see signings. However other teams will be competing for the same players, maybe offer more in transfer fees and wages. We can't offer wages that unbalance the dressing room. Keep the faith. We have a new young keeper so I'd guess Butland is off as I can't see the point of buying two very young keepers. Was in Cardiff the other night and thought he was good but I'm sure the Argie will be good as well. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:15am Sat 4 Aug 12

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?
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[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?[/p][/quote]. george chivers
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6:52am Sat 4 Aug 12

Corkonian Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?[/p][/quote]Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently.. Corkonian Saint
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9:42am Sat 4 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks.

CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL.

The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.
Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?
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It's the final countdown George. Personally I can see merits in all three options - BC, the Trust or Liquidisation. There is of course an outside chance that the next couple of years could see all three.

They're leaving together
But still it's fair well
And maybe they're come back
To earth, who can tell?
I guess everyones to blame
They're leaving their ground (leaving their ground)
Will things ever be the same again?

It's the final skuntdown

Oh oh

The final skuntdown

We're heading to St Marys (St Marys)
And still we stand tall...

It's the final skuntdown.....

Come on George, sing up. You know you want to!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I think there needs to be some serious in and out action in the next two weeks. CB, RB and RM are the priorities for me with CB being top of the list. It will be interesting to see how we get on against Wolves. A decent yardstick as to what we can achieve in the PL. The first 6 games are a stern test and if things don't go well we could end up with 4-6 points. But if they do go well 8-10 points.[/p][/quote]Yes, but what about the skunts? Will it be Trust or Chainrai? Will the council lend them tax payers money? Will BC liquidize them? Will the FL deduct further points?[/p][/quote].[/p][/quote]It's the final countdown George. Personally I can see merits in all three options - BC, the Trust or Liquidisation. There is of course an outside chance that the next couple of years could see all three. They're leaving together But still it's fair well And maybe they're come back To earth, who can tell? I guess everyones to blame They're leaving their ground (leaving their ground) Will things ever be the same again? It's the final skuntdown Oh oh The final skuntdown We're heading to St Marys (St Marys) And still we stand tall... It's the final skuntdown..... Come on George, sing up. You know you want to! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:09am Sat 4 Aug 12

milton road says...

Saints are one of the teams with status 1 and are in a competition for under 21's competing in group 2, which includes Man Utd.
Wolves defender Christophe Bharra could be on way to Saints from Wolves.
Leicester and Stoke also interested. Defender wants transfer.
Saints are one of the teams with status 1 and are in a competition for under 21's competing in group 2, which includes Man Utd. Wolves defender Christophe Bharra could be on way to Saints from Wolves. Leicester and Stoke also interested. Defender wants transfer. milton road
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10:13am Sat 4 Aug 12

Saint_Si says...

Corkonian Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..
AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus... need I say more? Two leagues in two seasons in our traditional red and white, if it's not broke, don't fix it!

Don't get me wrong though, I think Nigel and Nicola have done a superb job when only a few years ago there was a possibility of having no saints at all, St Markus Liebherr will always be a legend in my eyes, such a pity he's not here to see us play Man City. Two weeks, soo excited! COYR!
[quote][p][bold]Corkonian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?[/p][/quote]Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..[/p][/quote]AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus... need I say more? Two leagues in two seasons in our traditional red and white, if it's not broke, don't fix it! Don't get me wrong though, I think Nigel and Nicola have done a superb job when only a few years ago there was a possibility of having no saints at all, St Markus Liebherr will always be a legend in my eyes, such a pity he's not here to see us play Man City. Two weeks, soo excited! COYR! Saint_Si
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10:22am Sat 4 Aug 12

Confucious says...

Corkonian Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..
The debate over stripes or red will no doubt continue, but it isn't very rational. Tradition is great, but it doesn't win matches.

I studied this subject much more objectively in June and there's no doubt there are lessons to be learned from giraffes, cheetahs, leopards, puffer fish, standard Rex rabbits - and the popular Dalmation dog.

A football player who can achieve concealment through distruptive patterning, counter shading, counter illumination or who can resemble something else to the eye or conceal movement by visual confusion will have a big advantage. And my studies show (as identified by the above creatures) there is no better camouflage than spots.

Saints should switch from stripes to spots immediately. Imagine the ball whizzing down the wing apparently on its own because spotted Steeeeve can't be seen. Or the opposition goalie waiting to receive a back pass when the unseen spotted Lambert nips in and scores.

I wrote to Nicola with this suggestion in much more detail but he has not replied yet.

COME ON YOU SPOTS!
[quote][p][bold]Corkonian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?[/p][/quote]Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..[/p][/quote]The debate over stripes or red will no doubt continue, but it isn't very rational. Tradition is great, but it doesn't win matches. I studied this subject much more objectively in June and there's no doubt there are lessons to be learned from giraffes, cheetahs, leopards, puffer fish, standard Rex rabbits - and the popular Dalmation dog. A football player who can achieve concealment through distruptive patterning, counter shading, counter illumination or who can resemble something else to the eye or conceal movement by visual confusion will have a big advantage. And my studies show (as identified by the above creatures) there is no better camouflage than spots. Saints should switch from stripes to spots immediately. Imagine the ball whizzing down the wing apparently on its own because spotted Steeeeve can't be seen. Or the opposition goalie waiting to receive a back pass when the unseen spotted Lambert nips in and scores. I wrote to Nicola with this suggestion in much more detail but he has not replied yet. COME ON YOU SPOTS! Confucious
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10:52am Sat 4 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire says...

Confucious wrote:
Corkonian Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?
Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..
The debate over stripes or red will no doubt continue, but it isn't very rational. Tradition is great, but it doesn't win matches.

I studied this subject much more objectively in June and there's no doubt there are lessons to be learned from giraffes, cheetahs, leopards, puffer fish, standard Rex rabbits - and the popular Dalmation dog.

A football player who can achieve concealment through distruptive patterning, counter shading, counter illumination or who can resemble something else to the eye or conceal movement by visual confusion will have a big advantage. And my studies show (as identified by the above creatures) there is no better camouflage than spots.

Saints should switch from stripes to spots immediately. Imagine the ball whizzing down the wing apparently on its own because spotted Steeeeve can't be seen. Or the opposition goalie waiting to receive a back pass when the unseen spotted Lambert nips in and scores.

I wrote to Nicola with this suggestion in much more detail but he has not replied yet.

COME ON YOU SPOTS!
in the tour de france the bloke best at going up the mountains wares spots, you might have somthing here? - and there red & white!!!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Corkonian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think the red shirts will be a huge advantage. I know it upsets traditionalists but I think they'll make it easier for players to pick each other out. When was the last time a team with stripey shirts won the Premier League? Is that a coincidence?[/p][/quote]Barcelona haven't done too badly in stripes recently..[/p][/quote]The debate over stripes or red will no doubt continue, but it isn't very rational. Tradition is great, but it doesn't win matches. I studied this subject much more objectively in June and there's no doubt there are lessons to be learned from giraffes, cheetahs, leopards, puffer fish, standard Rex rabbits - and the popular Dalmation dog. A football player who can achieve concealment through distruptive patterning, counter shading, counter illumination or who can resemble something else to the eye or conceal movement by visual confusion will have a big advantage. And my studies show (as identified by the above creatures) there is no better camouflage than spots. Saints should switch from stripes to spots immediately. Imagine the ball whizzing down the wing apparently on its own because spotted Steeeeve can't be seen. Or the opposition goalie waiting to receive a back pass when the unseen spotted Lambert nips in and scores. I wrote to Nicola with this suggestion in much more detail but he has not replied yet. COME ON YOU SPOTS![/p][/quote]in the tour de france the bloke best at going up the mountains wares spots, you might have somthing here? - and there red & white!!! worried of n e hampshire
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11:44am Sat 4 Aug 12

Tirau Dan says...

Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints Tirau Dan
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11:46am Sat 4 Aug 12

Tirau Dan says...

come the other end of the season none of ya will admit you voted in the 39%
come the other end of the season none of ya will admit you voted in the 39% Tirau Dan
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11:51am Sat 4 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

IMO I am little bit worried about first game away to Citeh but have a feeling I may be pleasently suprised. After that reckon mid table security 12th and maybe a nice little cup run with the likes of JWP and Shaw leading the way in that. So basically pessimistic about first game but confident after that :)
IMO I am little bit worried about first game away to Citeh but have a feeling I may be pleasently suprised. After that reckon mid table security 12th and maybe a nice little cup run with the likes of JWP and Shaw leading the way in that. So basically pessimistic about first game but confident after that :) SO50 Saint
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12:28pm Sat 4 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
I voted mid table Dan. I don't know what I was thinking of and can only appologise profusely. Oh the shame of it all. Still, at least I'm not a skunt!
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints[/p][/quote]I voted mid table Dan. I don't know what I was thinking of and can only appologise profusely. Oh the shame of it all. Still, at least I'm not a skunt! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:46pm Sat 4 Aug 12

george chivers says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
Yep I did. I'll put my name for 15th position and that will be a good achievement with the squad we have or are likely to have by the end of August.

Europe in two years if we spend £40 to £50million on players and raise our average wage to between £45 and £50k per week. And retain our youngsters as they come through.

Possible, but not probable with a 32,000 seater stadium which we won't fill to capacity for every home game this season.

Your positive attitude is great but the reality is money buys success. Newcastle have half a chance because they have some money, the stadium, fan base, manager and an outstanding scout called Graham Carr.

We don't appear to have the money or a good enough scouting network and we don't have the stadium or the fan base to increase the revenue. So 15th it is for me, after a very slow start.

But on a good day, with a bit of luck we could lift the cup. I would be happy with that!
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints[/p][/quote]Yep I did. I'll put my name for 15th position and that will be a good achievement with the squad we have or are likely to have by the end of August. Europe in two years if we spend £40 to £50million on players and raise our average wage to between £45 and £50k per week. And retain our youngsters as they come through. Possible, but not probable with a 32,000 seater stadium which we won't fill to capacity for every home game this season. Your positive attitude is great but the reality is money buys success. Newcastle have half a chance because they have some money, the stadium, fan base, manager and an outstanding scout called Graham Carr. We don't appear to have the money or a good enough scouting network and we don't have the stadium or the fan base to increase the revenue. So 15th it is for me, after a very slow start. But on a good day, with a bit of luck we could lift the cup. I would be happy with that! george chivers
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1:37pm Sat 4 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
I hadn’t noticed the poll until you mentioned it Dan, I’ve now voted.
The hardest thing for a newly promoted team is to stay up and then if successful, beware of the second season syndrome.
The numerous dross teams that were seen as relegation fodder over the past few years have already been relegated, Poopey, Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, Brum, Hull etc.
The margins between best and worst teams are reducing. Anyone of the following teams this year are likely to be relegated – Saints, Villa, Norwich, Reading, West Ham, QPR, Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Wigan, Fulham.

I wouldn’t castigate anyone Dan in the 39% Just survive or even the 5% Relegated as these people are being honest and realistic of what the bookies are predicting, the bookies are never mugs.
You should save your frustrations for the likes of me as I’m one of the 6% voting top four and am clearly a delusional, blithering, rose tinted idiot.

It’s the 47% Mid Table voters that get up my goat. Those are the type of people IMO that normally wear XL y-fronts to be on the safe side while sat on padded cushions at the footy, chomping on a prawn sarnie.

Up The Saints
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints[/p][/quote]I hadn’t noticed the poll until you mentioned it Dan, I’ve now voted. The hardest thing for a newly promoted team is to stay up and then if successful, beware of the second season syndrome. The numerous dross teams that were seen as relegation fodder over the past few years have already been relegated, Poopey, Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, Brum, Hull etc. The margins between best and worst teams are reducing. Anyone of the following teams this year are likely to be relegated – Saints, Villa, Norwich, Reading, West Ham, QPR, Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Wigan, Fulham. I wouldn’t castigate anyone Dan in the 39% Just survive or even the 5% Relegated as these people are being honest and realistic of what the bookies are predicting, the bookies are never mugs. You should save your frustrations for the likes of me as I’m one of the 6% voting top four and am clearly a delusional, blithering, rose tinted idiot. It’s the 47% Mid Table voters that get up my goat. Those are the type of people IMO that normally wear XL y-fronts to be on the safe side while sat on padded cushions at the footy, chomping on a prawn sarnie. Up The Saints Mush On The Beach
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1:55pm Sat 4 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
I hadn’t noticed the poll until you mentioned it Dan, I’ve now voted.
The hardest thing for a newly promoted team is to stay up and then if successful, beware of the second season syndrome.
The numerous dross teams that were seen as relegation fodder over the past few years have already been relegated, Poopey, Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, Brum, Hull etc.
The margins between best and worst teams are reducing. Anyone of the following teams this year are likely to be relegated – Saints, Villa, Norwich, Reading, West Ham, QPR, Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Wigan, Fulham.

I wouldn’t castigate anyone Dan in the 39% Just survive or even the 5% Relegated as these people are being honest and realistic of what the bookies are predicting, the bookies are never mugs.
You should save your frustrations for the likes of me as I’m one of the 6% voting top four and am clearly a delusional, blithering, rose tinted idiot.

It’s the 47% Mid Table voters that get up my goat. Those are the type of people IMO that normally wear XL y-fronts to be on the safe side while sat on padded cushions at the footy, chomping on a prawn sarnie.

Up The Saints
STOP THIEF!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints[/p][/quote]I hadn’t noticed the poll until you mentioned it Dan, I’ve now voted. The hardest thing for a newly promoted team is to stay up and then if successful, beware of the second season syndrome. The numerous dross teams that were seen as relegation fodder over the past few years have already been relegated, Poopey, Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, Brum, Hull etc. The margins between best and worst teams are reducing. Anyone of the following teams this year are likely to be relegated – Saints, Villa, Norwich, Reading, West Ham, QPR, Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Wigan, Fulham. I wouldn’t castigate anyone Dan in the 39% Just survive or even the 5% Relegated as these people are being honest and realistic of what the bookies are predicting, the bookies are never mugs. You should save your frustrations for the likes of me as I’m one of the 6% voting top four and am clearly a delusional, blithering, rose tinted idiot. It’s the 47% Mid Table voters that get up my goat. Those are the type of people IMO that normally wear XL y-fronts to be on the safe side while sat on padded cushions at the footy, chomping on a prawn sarnie. Up The Saints[/p][/quote]STOP THIEF! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:35pm Sat 4 Aug 12

milton road says...

realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through.
We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership.
Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little.
The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season.
People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England).
I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet.
The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong.
realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through. We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership. Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little. The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season. People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England). I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet. The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong. milton road
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2:47pm Sat 4 Aug 12

Mush On The Beach says...

milton road wrote:
realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through.
We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership.
Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little.
The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season.
People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England).
I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet.
The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong.
Good points and well made Milton Rd
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through. We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership. Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little. The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season. People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England). I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet. The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong.[/p][/quote]Good points and well made Milton Rd Mush On The Beach
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3:16pm Sat 4 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
milton road wrote:
realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through.
We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership.
Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little.
The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season.
People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England).
I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet.
The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong.
Good points and well made Milton Rd
Yep. Although young the likes of Lallana, Spider and Cork are very experienced now. So is Rickie and has a great football brain. Chappers has been around the block and knows the score as does Kelv. If the academy lads step up and the new signings settle in I think we could do ok.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: realism Dan I reckon around 15th. Other than Davies we have bought players with potential, he is the one player we have bought with top level experience. We have very few players with actual top level experience anywhere, less than any team in the division. The gap between div 1 and championship is one thing, the gap between the championship and PL is a lot bigger. The transfer window has not closed yet, so there is time for some quality to be bought in. Yes we have a great team spirit, yes we potentially have some very good players, but that is the moment what they are potentially. We are putting so much responsibility on the shoulders of the young players. Llana, Spider, Cork, Rodriguez, Clyne. Without naming the new kids on the block that have come through. We also have a few players that have rightly the chance to make their name in the premiership. Hopefully we will bring in at least a couple of quality names, which may push us up the table a little. The PL is a stronger and harder division than when we left. Hopefully we will excel anything above bottom 3 will good for the first season. People on the site have compared this team and era to BIg Mac's. The team that got us into the Europe several seasons in a row and runners up was. Shilton (England) Mills (England) Watson (England) Nicole (Northern Ireland) Golac (Yugoslavia) Mark Wright (England) Mark Dennis. Alan Ball (England) Jimmy Case (England) Stevie Williams (England) Holmes (England under 21's) Graham Baker, David Armstrong (England) Moran, Channon (England) Keegan (England). I want us to end up in Europe as much as anyone, yet the realism is a hard season. Unless some real quality is bought in before the start. There is time yet and NA and NC have never let us down yet. The thing is that if Saints do find it tough, it won't be the ones that forecast that on here moaning, it will be the ones that expected top half of the table. I have been red and white through and through for near on 50 years, just happen to think the PL will be a tough baptism. Fantastic if i am proved wrong.[/p][/quote]Good points and well made Milton Rd[/p][/quote]Yep. Although young the likes of Lallana, Spider and Cork are very experienced now. So is Rickie and has a great football brain. Chappers has been around the block and knows the score as does Kelv. If the academy lads step up and the new signings settle in I think we could do ok. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:34pm Sat 4 Aug 12

angiemill says...

Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap
Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap angiemill
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6:03pm Sat 4 Aug 12

magnette says...

I voted for "the top four" because I couldn't find the "We're gonna win it" button.
I voted for "the top four" because I couldn't find the "We're gonna win it" button. magnette
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7:45am Sun 5 Aug 12

long memory says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity!

Up The Saints
I am confident that Saints will finish in the top half of the league. Odds of 5/1 looks a good bet to me.
N C comes over as a man on a mission to me,and will accept nothing less.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Cough up the 39% that say we'll just survive... have you forgotten the work of the last couple of years and the strength of resolve of Nicola Cortese to force the job to get done. I have every faith that Nicola and Nigel will do what they need to do to reach Europe in the next two years... No way is this club going to be anywhere near relegation at the end of the season... Man up and put you names next to your negativity! Up The Saints[/p][/quote]I am confident that Saints will finish in the top half of the league. Odds of 5/1 looks a good bet to me. N C comes over as a man on a mission to me,and will accept nothing less. long memory
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10:31am Sun 5 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire says...

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap
yep, i will go along with that
[quote][p][bold]angiemill[/bold] wrote: Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap[/p][/quote]yep, i will go along with that worried of n e hampshire
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1:06pm Sun 5 Aug 12

mack chinnon says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap
yep, i will go along with that
And me.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angiemill[/bold] wrote: Let's face it, the new website (as it stands at the moment) is crap[/p][/quote]yep, i will go along with that[/p][/quote]And me. mack chinnon
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