Adkins reveals reasons behind dropping Lambert (From Daily Echo)

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

tomw1234 wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

What the hell are you on? City are a world class team and we were just promoted from the championship! Did you expect us to give them a good thrashing?! Dropping Rickie was a brilliant idea! When he came on, we scored two goals against the best defence in the league! Honestly, some people.

costa gaz wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Absolutely sop on Andy.
Best 11 should have started.
I think he was experimenting because he thought we'd get nothing from the game.
Still very proud and nothing to worry about for the rest of the season.

Andyt66 wrote:

tomw1234 wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

What the hell are you on? City are a world class team and we were just promoted from the championship! Did you expect us to give them a good thrashing?! Dropping Rickie was a brilliant idea! When he came on, we scored two goals against the best defence in the league! Honestly, some people.

I didn't say I expected to win the game, and if you bothered to read my post from the previous story you would realize I am both thrilled and proud after that performance. Are you suggesting we drop our best players when we play a great team? Rickie has earned his place as a legend at the club and I am of the opinion that he should play from the start. The whole team looked different when he came on. Please look at the tweets from another club legend. Matt Le Tissier felt very much the same as I did, so while you may think I don't know f*** all, you surely have to aprreciate Matt's opinion.

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Taunton Saint wrote:
When the people on here have managed a side to 3 promtions in 6 years (including Scunthorpe) then they can start to argue tactics. Adkins was spot on, away at the Champions, opening day of the season we played a system that meant they had to press on to us. Lambert will see a lot more of the Bench this year as will the whole squad, it is how the Premiership works. Proud of that performance, proud of the players, we were exposed at times but we have just played a team that has spent the best part of £300m on 4 strikers including wages. Did you see our Stat? 15 players in 2 years for £m

upwherewebelong wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Sorry Andy but I think you are entirely wrong. Unless you have been a professional footballer and/or manager I don't think any of us are qualified to moan or question NA's judgement as clearly he knows just a little more about football than we do. Yes without doubt leaving Lambert on the bench was a surprise to me but who am I to question NA'S judgement and wow it nearly paid off. But for fox's lapse of concentration we may have got a point and with better defending and more honest decisions from officials we may even have done better than that. We support a team not just one player. And in my opinion Guly worked his socks off alongside all the players.

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Andyt66 wrote:

upwherewebelong wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

Sorry Andy but I think you are entirely wrong. Unless you have been a professional footballer and/or manager I don't think any of us are qualified to moan or question NA's judgement as clearly he knows just a little more about football than we do. Yes without doubt leaving Lambert on the bench was a surprise to me but who am I to question NA'S judgement and wow it nearly paid off. But for fox's lapse of concentration we may have got a point and with better defending and more honest decisions from officials we may even have done better than that. We support a team not just one player. And in my opinion Guly worked his socks off alongside all the players.

Your point is very fair, other than Matt Le Tiss made the same point as I did, and there is no disputing his understanding of the game. For those that say we went up there expecting nothing, please recall NA claimed we are approaching ALL games to win them, which I really admire.
It just makes no sense to me that our top goalscorer should be rested for the first game of the season. Will Rooney and Van Persie be rested tomorrow?

costa gaz wrote:

Taunton Saint wrote:
When the people on here have managed a side to 3 promtions in 6 years (including Scunthorpe) then they can start to argue tactics. Adkins was spot on, away at the Champions, opening day of the season we played a system that meant they had to press on to us. Lambert will see a lot more of the Bench this year as will the whole squad, it is how the Premiership works. Proud of that performance, proud of the players, we were exposed at times but we have just played a team that has spent the best part of £300m on 4 strikers including wages. Did you see our Stat? 15 players in 2 years for £m

Are you not arguing tactics?
hehehehehehe

Brilliant!!!!

Taunton Saint wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Taunton Saint wrote:
When the people on here have managed a side to 3 promtions in 6 years (including Scunthorpe) then they can start to argue tactics. Adkins was spot on, away at the Champions, opening day of the season we played a system that meant they had to press on to us. Lambert will see a lot more of the Bench this year as will the whole squad, it is how the Premiership works. Proud of that performance, proud of the players, we were exposed at times but we have just played a team that has spent the best part of £300m on 4 strikers including wages. Did you see our Stat? 15 players in 2 years for £m

Are you not arguing tactics?
hehehehehehe

Brilliant!!!!

laughs, no mate what I was trying to say that we should leave it Adkins!!

I love these forums, love the debates, we are all entitled to our views it is great fun and makes football doesn't it

Just don't like those Skunts but like wasps, bad drivers
and the French there is nothing to do but put up with them ;-)

Glad I amused you!!!

saint Compo wrote:
A great performance by Saints against last season's champions. We also had to suffer a referee who, like his peers, cannot help but show bias in favour of the big clubs.We had a cast iron penalty before Man City got theirs. Spiderman's booking for a 'professional' foul late on (fair enough) was however surprising given that 2 similar professional fouls by Man City players in the first half went unpunished. We'll just have to get used to getting ripped off against the big clubs.

COYR

midlandsaint wrote:
No denying Le Tiss is a legend, and a football genius, as a player. He was also quite lazy and was pretty much given a free rein. I certainly don't say that to knock him, but just to point out that his tactical nous may not be comparable to that of Nigel, who manages the team. I'll take the managers opinion over a legendary player anyday. I think Nige got it right. The old rope-a-dope. Soak up the pressure, include some pace to try the counter-attack if possible then when Man City are a little tired, and a little slower bring on Rickie to make the most of his ability. And it worked.

GX Saint wrote:

midlandsaint wrote:
No denying Le Tiss is a legend, and a football genius, as a player. He was also quite lazy and was pretty much given a free rein. I certainly don't say that to knock him, but just to point out that his tactical nous may not be comparable to that of Nigel, who manages the team. I'll take the managers opinion over a legendary player anyday. I think Nige got it right. The old rope-a-dope. Soak up the pressure, include some pace to try the counter-attack if possible then when Man City are a little tired, and a little slower bring on Rickie to make the most of his ability. And it worked.

Spot on. Ricky looked so lively when he came on. Guly had run the centre backs all over the place and he lasted right to the end. I think RIcky's impact when he came on was greater than it would have been had he started.
I expect he'll start against Wigan and Man U and then NA will revert to this plan again at the Emirates.

Andyt66 wrote:

tomw1234 wrote:

Andyt66 wrote:
Sorry Nigel, I don't buy that. Dropping Rickie was ridiculous -we never looked like scoring until he came on. Are you saying then that the game plan was to let City score first, then bring him on?
I suspect Rickie was furious, and rightly so. Guly showed once again that he is not good enough. Interesting what might have happened if we had started with our best 11.

What the hell are you on? City are a world class team and we were just promoted from the championship! Did you expect us to give them a good thrashing?! Dropping Rickie was a brilliant idea! When he came on, we scored two goals against the best defence in the league! Honestly, some people.

I didn't say I expected to win the game, and if you bothered to read my post from the previous story you would realize I am both thrilled and proud after that performance. Are you suggesting we drop our best players when we play a great team? Rickie has earned his place as a legend at the club and I am of the opinion that he should play from the start. The whole team looked different when he came on. Please look at the tweets from another club legend. Matt Le Tissier felt very much the same as I did, so while you may think I don't know f*** all, you surely have to aprreciate Matt's opinion.