Lambert in line for starting spot?

Lambert in line for starting spot? Lambert in line for starting spot?

Rickie Lambert is hoping for a first team recall after his controversial dropping for the season opener at Manchester City.

The prolific striker answered his demotion to the bench in the best way possible – by scoring just moments after being introduced as a second half sub at the Etihad Stadium.

Lambert is now expected to feature in the Saints starting line-up to face Wigan at St Mary’s tomorrow.

If recalled he would play as the main striker through the middle so the big question for Nigel Adkins would be whether to drop Guly do Prado , or move him back to one of the support roles, probably at the expense of Jason Puncheon .

He also faces a dilemma in midfield.

Like Lambert, new signing Steve Davis came off the bench to score last weekend and is fully fit and pushing for a first Saints start.

However, Adkins was full of praise for James Ward-Prowse in the central midfield three, Adam Lallana played well and is now team captain and Morgan Schneiderlin is seen as the ideal figure to screen the back four.

Adkins is relishing the game against Wigan tomorrow, which will be only the second time the teams have ever met, and the first in the league.

The Saints boss played for Wigan as a goalkeeper and said: “We can take confidence and belief from that (the Manchester City game).

“We’re back at St Mary’s now and we do well here. We have done very well over the past two seasons.

“But like Sun Tzu in The Art of War, you never ever, ever underestimate your opposition.

“Wigan have done magnificently over the years. Roberto Martinez is a very intelligent manager, they play a very good way and they have survived in the Premier League against all the odds.

“It is a club I was at myself as a player so to see them in the Premier League consistently over the last several years is amazing and great credit should go to them.

“We’re under no illusions. It will be a tough, tough game for us.

“Probably the Manchester City game you’re not expecting us to get anything from.

“The game against Wigan Athletic, we’ve got to look to get the three points from.”

Comments(62)

St Retford says...
8:20am Fri 24 Aug 12

I don't think it's fair to call it a 'demotion'; it was a one-off tactical switch made in preparation for containing the best team in the country. Rickie will start every other game he's fit for.

White and red till dead says...
8:20am Fri 24 Aug 12

He should start. we looked a more settle and confident team when he came on. Wigan are there for the taking from the off.

Skating on thin ice says...
8:22am Fri 24 Aug 12

13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.

worried of n e hampshire says...
8:33am Fri 24 Aug 12

I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing

Spookysaint says...
8:33am Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
Go home where you belong, the only thing that will be busy your way this weekend will be the M27, so make the most of it.
Yes we are in a good position and ahead of various teams, but where are you !!!!!! Its sad that you have to have players on loan on a montly basis, hope you can sleep at night when you think of all the people who's lives you have destroyed due to your arrogant attitude and underhand behaviour in addition to the dishonest behaviour with hard working peoples money. Just go to a kitchen shop and get a liquidiser and go away peacefully do us all a favour.

richie79 says...
8:37am Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
6 points is probably the maximum you will have come the end of the season you fish f***er go back to bed with your sister/mother/dad/br
other and get working on a new 2 headed baby to complete ur family coyr we are premier league say we are premier league

Barcelona Saint says...
8:40am Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
Haha. What a sad deluded fool! Go back to your mum's bosom and stop whining!!

seventh-junction says...
8:43am Fri 24 Aug 12

Jealous tw@t alert!!!!!
I can' see us beatng Wigan with a record Premier score as I think they are a good organised side.
I feel possibly a Saints 3-1 win may be on the cards though.
The skunts or Football League X1 as they are now known go to Carlisle which could be resounding defeat for the fishf@ckers leaving them with 0 wins from 3 games in League 1.....ha ha ha ha
COYR FOADP...If you all love Chanrai clap your hands!

St Graz says...
8:55am Fri 24 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
I don't think it's fair to call it a 'demotion'; it was a one-off tactical switch made in preparation for containing the best team in the country. Rickie will start every other game he's fit for.
Agree - demotion is inflamatory- it was tactics! And I'm sure Rickie was well aware of it! We may see more of this throughout the season to prolong his fitness and effectiveness but I'm certain he'll start this weekend. COYR!!

St Graz says...
9:00am Fri 24 Aug 12

White and red till dead wrote:
He should start. we looked a more settle and confident team when he came on. Wigan are there for the taking from the off.
For once Lawrenson being complimentary about Saints and Rickie in particular and predicting a Saints win. (probably the kiss of death then!)

St Graz says...
9:07am Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
Better that than the minus 10 pointer you're getting whichever way the administrator makes his decision today.

St Retford says...
9:14am Fri 24 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.

billythesaint says...
9:18am Fri 24 Aug 12

I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:30am Fri 24 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
Tend to agree ........ so NA will probably go 3-1-1-2-2-1 and bring in Lee Barnard as a loan striker :)

As for 'demotion', what Retford and Worried said! This is a squad and the players will ALL play their part this season.

St Retford says...
9:34am Fri 24 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
You know that bit in Escape To Victory when Michael Caine is explaining his tactics on a blackboard and Pele picks up the chalk and goes "I go round him, round him, round him, round him and then score" and Michael Caine goes "Er, that's the spirit, Luis"? You remind me a bit of him.

Still, great film. Is anyone else a little troubled by the ending, though? I mean, how difficult is it going to be for the Germans to spot Pele in a crowd in Occupied Paris of the 1940s?

redsnapper says...
9:36am Fri 24 Aug 12

Sorry Adam but this is cr*p.

It was a totally tactical decision which almost worked and got us a draw, unfortunately Fox's school boy blunder put an end to that.

I am 100% sure that all the squad knew the reasoning, and there was no slant whatsoever against RL.

It#s a pity the Echo doesn't have a better relationship with SFC instead of having to seond guess all the time.

Day_Saint says...
9:48am Fri 24 Aug 12

I doubted Adkins when I see Lambert, Davis and Sharp on the bench. But after that game I don't think ill ever doubt him again. The man is a tactical genius !

mbetts says...
9:58am Fri 24 Aug 12

What a non story!

He was on the bench for tactical reasons, to inject fear into their defence in the second half, it nearly paid off too, I wish people would stop dwelling on this, I applaud Adkins for thinking of ways to actually win the match not just go for damage limitation, the only thing i'd have done differently was start with Sharp instead if Rodrigues. Then we'd have given them 2 things to worry about.

Bazatron84 says...
10:00am Fri 24 Aug 12

Just for those that are interested about a possible signing, dont know how accurate it is: http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11095/8014033/Yoshid
a-attracting-interes
t

Alicesdad says...
10:07am Fri 24 Aug 12

Alicescat says that Ricky should play.

But he also acknowledges that Adkins is a tactical genius. Maybe Ricky could be the new CB everyone is crying out for .. who would beat him in the air?

Confucious .. what is Fentons opinion?

And where will Tad Lee fit in when he's fit? The options are to numreous to contemplate. We've never had so many players yet still to buy more.... how times have changed since 2009.

...... and it looks like the Italians have made a right Bolognese of the Ramirez deal. Shame. This was entirely their fault, Saints behaviour was impeccable and we take no nonsense. Well done Nicola.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:08am Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
In Cardiff for the cricket. Out last night with my ten year old and said 'becareful son it's a lot rougher around here than you're used to.'

'Is it like Portsmouth?' he replied.

Nuffield said!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:10am Fri 24 Aug 12

Nuff said even. Bloody predictive.

pushamara says...
10:23am Fri 24 Aug 12

Sky Italia reporting saints are considering signing Del Piero! Not sure about that one, think he's 37/38 maybe now?

Hobson82 says...
10:28am Fri 24 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1: K.Davis Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
I don't know why he doesn't push Lallana up alongside Rodriguez playing off Rickie. And play S.Davies, Spiderman and Ward-Prowse in the middle.
But then again I'm not a tactical genius, so what do I know.

Tirau Dan says...
10:33am Fri 24 Aug 12

Bazatron84 wrote:
Just for those that are interested about a possible signing, dont know how accurate it is: http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11095/8014033/Yoshid

a-attracting-interes

t
It was on the mirror first .. Maya Yoshido 6ft 2in cb.. 17 caps for Japan... has a tasty looking bit of defence on you tube too.

acardiffsaint says...
10:36am Fri 24 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
In Cardiff for the cricket. Out last night with my ten year old and said 'becareful son it's a lot rougher around here than you're used to.'

'Is it like Portsmouth?' he replied.

Nuffield said!
Oi! As a saints fan living in cardiff i felt the need to speak up for the city of cardiff. It is nothing like portsmire! Cardiff has great parks a nice leisure quarter great castle and the nightlifes not bad either. Now if u had likened portshite to maybe ely ( used to be the biggest council estate in europe) i would have seen your point although thinking about it their team plays in red now! Lol. Cardiffs lovely though.

mark5 says...
10:43am Fri 24 Aug 12

Good luck Saints with your home opener against Wigan. They are not to be underestimated as they have some decent players and can score goals! However, 3 points should be in the bag for you by 5.00pm. Maybe we will see our first league goal this term at the Amex tomorrow......or maybe not!!

Strasbourg Saint says...
10:43am Fri 24 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
You know that bit in Escape To Victory when Michael Caine is explaining his tactics on a blackboard and Pele picks up the chalk and goes "I go round him, round him, round him, round him and then score" and Michael Caine goes "Er, that's the spirit, Luis"? You remind me a bit of him.

Still, great film. Is anyone else a little troubled by the ending, though? I mean, how difficult is it going to be for the Germans to spot Pele in a crowd in Occupied Paris of the 1940s?
Yes, that bit ruined it for me .......... that and the wee fact that none of them had any ID, those helping them would have all been shot within five minutes of the closing credits and the fact that Sly looked better as a goalie than he does as an actor, of course.

Strasbourg Saint says...
10:46am Fri 24 Aug 12

mark5 wrote:
Good luck Saints with your home opener against Wigan. They are not to be underestimated as they have some decent players and can score goals! However, 3 points should be in the bag for you by 5.00pm. Maybe we will see our first league goal this term at the Amex tomorrow......or maybe not!!
Thanks, Mark, was wondering where the BHA fans were these days.

Have a good season and send our best wishes to PressBox and Capt. Cook.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:11am Fri 24 Aug 12

acardiffsaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
In Cardiff for the cricket. Out last night with my ten year old and said 'becareful son it's a lot rougher around here than you're used to.'

'Is it like Portsmouth?' he replied.

Nuffield said!
Oi! As a saints fan living in cardiff i felt the need to speak up for the city of cardiff. It is nothing like portsmire! Cardiff has great parks a nice leisure quarter great castle and the nightlifes not bad either. Now if u had likened portshite to maybe ely ( used to be the biggest council estate in europe) i would have seen your point although thinking about it their team plays in red now! Lol. Cardiffs lovely though.
Indeed. Having had a fantastic curry at Moksh down the bay last night and having walked the city, parks and castle this morning to get to the Swalec we agree this is nothing like the dump known as Portsea Island. Our profuse apologies!

Mind you the Swalec is no Rosebowl! Also it's very wet here :(

randre says...
11:20am Fri 24 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.
St Retford, you are absolutely spot on.

I think so many underestimate what a great job Nigel has done.

We were 21st in League 1 when he took over... The rest is Portsmouth (sorry, no I meant history).

Mush On The Beach says...
11:33am Fri 24 Aug 12

randre wrote:
St Retford wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.
St Retford, you are absolutely spot on.

I think so many underestimate what a great job Nigel has done.

We were 21st in League 1 when he took over... The rest is Portsmouth (sorry, no I meant history).
Nigel still has a lot to learn as he is only in the early stages of a promising career. He took us all by surprise including Mancini no doubt. I thought it was a brave move and showed he is a thinking man who is not scared to mix it up. Two subs scoring straight away, take a bow gaffer.

St Retford says...
12:30pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
You know that bit in Escape To Victory when Michael Caine is explaining his tactics on a blackboard and Pele picks up the chalk and goes "I go round him, round him, round him, round him and then score" and Michael Caine goes "Er, that's the spirit, Luis"? You remind me a bit of him.

Still, great film. Is anyone else a little troubled by the ending, though? I mean, how difficult is it going to be for the Germans to spot Pele in a crowd in Occupied Paris of the 1940s?
Yes, that bit ruined it for me .......... that and the wee fact that none of them had any ID, those helping them would have all been shot within five minutes of the closing credits and the fact that Sly looked better as a goalie than he does as an actor, of course.
You're right - the German reprisals would have been horrific. Literally thousands would have been killed as the SS scoured mercilessly to bring those responsible to justice.

Perhaps they should remake this as a slightly dark sequel. It could be a metaphor for the government's overreaction to the riots or the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay or something.

Red n White says...
12:33pm Fri 24 Aug 12

St Graz wrote:
St Retford wrote: I don't think it's fair to call it a 'demotion'; it was a one-off tactical switch made in preparation for containing the best team in the country. Rickie will start every other game he's fit for.
Agree - demotion is inflamatory- it was tactics! And I'm sure Rickie was well aware of it! We may see more of this throughout the season to prolong his fitness and effectiveness but I'm certain he'll start this weekend. COYR!!
This article doesn't seem to give Adkins credit for holding the two players back and using them in a position to change the game.
If it had it been the other way round, with Ward-Prowse and Rodriguez coming on, I doubt they'd have had the same impact as Lambert and Davis had when they came on.

billythesaint says...
1:09pm Fri 24 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
You know that bit in Escape To Victory when Michael Caine is explaining his tactics on a blackboard and Pele picks up the chalk and goes "I go round him, round him, round him, round him and then score" and Michael Caine goes "Er, that's the spirit, Luis"? You remind me a bit of him.

Still, great film. Is anyone else a little troubled by the ending, though? I mean, how difficult is it going to be for the Germans to spot Pele in a crowd in Occupied Paris of the 1940s?
Yes, that bit ruined it for me .......... that and the wee fact that none of them had any ID, those helping them would have all been shot within five minutes of the closing credits and the fact that Sly looked better as a goalie than he does as an actor, of course.
You're right - the German reprisals would have been horrific. Literally thousands would have been killed as the SS scoured mercilessly to bring those responsible to justice.

Perhaps they should remake this as a slightly dark sequel. It could be a metaphor for the government's overreaction to the riots or the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay or something.
I'm confused now. Are you saying Guly should pick up the chalk?! I'd draw some boobs and a squirting willy, sit in the corner rocking backwards and forwards mumbling to myself and have the whole thing beamed live into the Wigan dressing room. That will rattle them. Bet Sun Tzu never thought of that.

St Retford says...
1:31pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Hahaha - genius.

Strasbourg Saint says...
1:36pm Fri 24 Aug 12

billythesaint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
I'm fairly sure Sun Tzu wasn't referring to Wigan Football Club in his quotes. Anyway, Rickie will start. I'd go with this 4-3-3 come 4-5-1:
K.Davis
Clyne, Hoover, Fonte, Fox
S.Davis, Spiderman, Lallana
Guly, Lambert, Rodriguez
Guly normally does ok at home so he gets the nod over Puncheon. Never underestimate the opposition! True but I think we'll batter them personally.
You know that bit in Escape To Victory when Michael Caine is explaining his tactics on a blackboard and Pele picks up the chalk and goes "I go round him, round him, round him, round him and then score" and Michael Caine goes "Er, that's the spirit, Luis"? You remind me a bit of him.

Still, great film. Is anyone else a little troubled by the ending, though? I mean, how difficult is it going to be for the Germans to spot Pele in a crowd in Occupied Paris of the 1940s?
Yes, that bit ruined it for me .......... that and the wee fact that none of them had any ID, those helping them would have all been shot within five minutes of the closing credits and the fact that Sly looked better as a goalie than he does as an actor, of course.
You're right - the German reprisals would have been horrific. Literally thousands would have been killed as the SS scoured mercilessly to bring those responsible to justice.

Perhaps they should remake this as a slightly dark sequel. It could be a metaphor for the government's overreaction to the riots or the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay or something.
I'm confused now. Are you saying Guly should pick up the chalk?! I'd draw some boobs and a squirting willy, sit in the corner rocking backwards and forwards mumbling to myself and have the whole thing beamed live into the Wigan dressing room. That will rattle them. Bet Sun Tzu never thought of that.
If my name was Guly, those are some of the last things I'd be chalking on the board, Billy.

Anyway, I think you're completely missing the whole thing about Sun Tzu. It's Wiki's fault. Like many reports, it has him down as a general who knew a thing or two about warfare. The truth is, and Nige needs to grasp this if we're to compete with the best, he was actually an often-misquoted pacifist.

The thing is, the early records were written in Wu and some dumb fool in Beijing used Google Translate to create what we now know as the definitive version in Mandarin.

Unfortunately, this has led to no end of confusion. For example, one of the regularly misquoted passages in The Art of War is the one on how to lie down and be shot whilst repeating a tantric mantra about the value of bees in a balance environment. Translating just from Mandarin into English, it says something like, 'train hard, obey orders, outnumber your enemies and kill the b4st4rds before they get you, and all will be well in the world'.

There's one bit where he says (and I quote), 'it's a game of two halves'. The Mandarin claims that he said, 'take your swards and attack from both the right and the left in a sort of pincher movement'. If Nige tries that with Guly and Punch against Wigan, we're for it.

Mush On The Beach says...
1:36pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Lambo 1st goal scorer tomorrow and Saints win 2-0, we will be off and running.

derek james says...
2:17pm Fri 24 Aug 12

St Retford wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.
follow nigel into war? do us a favour retford, afghanistan awaits your talents, digging latrines that is !

COYR

Confucious says...
3:01pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Alicesdad wrote:
Alicescat says that Ricky should play.

But he also acknowledges that Adkins is a tactical genius. Maybe Ricky could be the new CB everyone is crying out for .. who would beat him in the air?

Confucious .. what is Fentons opinion?

And where will Tad Lee fit in when he's fit? The options are to numreous to contemplate. We've never had so many players yet still to buy more.... how times have changed since 2009.

...... and it looks like the Italians have made a right Bolognese of the Ramirez deal. Shame. This was entirely their fault, Saints behaviour was impeccable and we take no nonsense. Well done Nicola.
Said nowt. Was obviously picking the bones out of the interview, then walked round in a circle on his bed four times and went to sleep.

saintkenny says...
3:49pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
yeah rite and when the skates come up cheating they did not win away till the next season only at notalfcrap ,even with overpaying players ,even then you where crap ,normal skate rubbish poor jealous skunts

Mush On The Beach says...
5:34pm Fri 24 Aug 12

saintkenny wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
yeah rite and when the skates come up cheating they did not win away till the next season only at notalfcrap ,even with overpaying players ,even then you where crap ,normal skate rubbish poor jealous skunts
Chainrai, oh oh
PST can’t pay, oh oh oh oh.
He comes from Hong Kong,
He’ll bleed dry the Poopey Mong.

No ice left to skate on skunt, you are drowning. Learn to relax, apparently it makes it less painfull. Tada

Mush On The Beach says...
5:49pm Fri 24 Aug 12

When the moon hits your eye like a big apple pie that’s Amore.
When the Sh1t hits the fan like a skunt financial plan thats Chainrai.

I’m always available to sing at birth’s, weddings, funerals and bar mitzvahs if you need me.
Just dial 0898 MUSH.

hedge end bob says...
6:08pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Still quite on transfers, the waiting is killing aint it.

warrens 76 says...
6:16pm Fri 24 Aug 12

I saw a bloke wearing one of those football shirts from Primark for a team that doesn’t actually exist...Portsmouth.

warrens 76 says...
6:19pm Fri 24 Aug 12

acardiffsaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
13 in the Premier League table, ahead of Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool on goal difference... this is as good as it gets, the high water mark for you this season. Now on to setting a new Premier League record: the game against Wigan is the first time there has ever been a relegation six-pointer before the end of August.
In Cardiff for the cricket. Out last night with my ten year old and said 'becareful son it's a lot rougher around here than you're used to.'

'Is it like Portsmouth?' he replied.

Nuffield said!
Oi! As a saints fan living in cardiff i felt the need to speak up for the city of cardiff. It is nothing like portsmire! Cardiff has great parks a nice leisure quarter great castle and the nightlifes not bad either. Now if u had likened portshite to maybe ely ( used to be the biggest council estate in europe) i would have seen your point although thinking about it their team plays in red now! Lol. Cardiffs lovely though.
Yu see, I'm not appy! Cardiff can be punchee, but we hav a laff see,
Pompee, wellll unapppy seee.

SFCOLDBOY says...
7:19pm Fri 24 Aug 12

ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH DEAR FRIENDS.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE THE BEST

WE NEED EVERY ONE TO LIFT THE ROOF OFF S.M.S.

LET'S GIVE OUR GREAT TEAM THE WELCOME THEY DESERVE

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE, WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!

FANTASTIC SUPPORT AT CITEH
MADE ME PROUD TO BE A SAINTS SUPPORTER.

HELLO AGAIN TO ALL OF OUR POSITIVE POSTERS ON HERE i.e.
REDARMY, CONFUCIUS, STRAS,
INSANE SAINT, TUGBOAT, SEED,
DAN, MUSH ON THE BEACH,BADS BILL,
I CAN GO ON AND ON EXCUSE ME FOR THE ONES I'VE MISSED.

We have got a massive part to play tommorow.

Sorry to shout but got to get my vocal chords limbered up for the game.

COYR.

skin2000 says...
7:40pm Fri 24 Aug 12

randre wrote:
St Retford wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.
St Retford, you are absolutely spot on.

I think so many underestimate what a great job Nigel has done.

We were 21st in League 1 when he took over... The rest is Portsmouth (sorry, no I meant history).
When Ian Branfoot played Le Tiss from the bench he was branded an idiot, when Nigel Adkins plays Ricky from the bench, people say it is a tactical master stroke. Can someone explain the difference to me?

saintsfan7177 says...
7:53pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Tirau Dan wrote:
Bazatron84 wrote:
Just for those that are interested about a possible signing, dont know how accurate it is: http://www1.skysport


s.com/football/news/
forget signing him as a defender if he can score goals like the one on utube against PSV then we can sign him as another striker lol

bluewhiteandred says...
8:37pm Fri 24 Aug 12

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH DEAR FRIENDS.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE THE BEST

WE NEED EVERY ONE TO LIFT THE ROOF OFF S.M.S.

LET'S GIVE OUR GREAT TEAM THE WELCOME THEY DESERVE

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE, WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!

FANTASTIC SUPPORT AT CITEH
MADE ME PROUD TO BE A SAINTS SUPPORTER.

HELLO AGAIN TO ALL OF OUR POSITIVE POSTERS ON HERE i.e.
REDARMY, CONFUCIUS, STRAS,
INSANE SAINT, TUGBOAT, SEED,
DAN, MUSH ON THE BEACH,BADS BILL,
I CAN GO ON AND ON EXCUSE ME FOR THE ONES I'VE MISSED.

We have got a massive part to play tommorow.

Sorry to shout but got to get my vocal chords limbered up for the game.

COYR.
SFCOLDBOY
What a dreamer your are
Great team HA HA HA HA
Positive posters they would praise the saints if they lost 10-0 . The fans have a big part to play yes the team are poor they need all the help they can get !

seventh-junction says...
9:35pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH DEAR FRIENDS.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE THE BEST

WE NEED EVERY ONE TO LIFT THE ROOF OFF S.M.S.

LET'S GIVE OUR GREAT TEAM THE WELCOME THEY DESERVE

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE, WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!

FANTASTIC SUPPORT AT CITEH
MADE ME PROUD TO BE A SAINTS SUPPORTER.

HELLO AGAIN TO ALL OF OUR POSITIVE POSTERS ON HERE i.e.
REDARMY, CONFUCIUS, STRAS,
INSANE SAINT, TUGBOAT, SEED,
DAN, MUSH ON THE BEACH,BADS BILL,
I CAN GO ON AND ON EXCUSE ME FOR THE ONES I'VE MISSED.

We have got a massive part to play tommorow.

Sorry to shout but got to get my vocal chords limbered up for the game.

COYR.
SFCOLDBOY
What a dreamer your are
Great team HA HA HA HA
Positive posters they would praise the saints if they lost 10-0 . The fans have a big part to play yes the team are poor they need all the help they can get !
Blue sh1te and dead....what a c@nt you are. Football League X1 ha ha ha ha
The fans....all 6000 of them will need to support the Football League X1 Cheat Team as they now have Super Super Chanrai back on the scene.....They'll need all the support they haven't got.........skunt w@nkers!
WTFILN FOADP

bluewhiteandred says...
9:42pm Fri 24 Aug 12

poor poor saints cant attract any top class players dont take it out on me try adkins.

Baddesley Bill says...
9:50pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
poor poor saints cant attract any top class players dont take it out on me try adkins.
Who you got tomorrow Blue? :O)

bluewhiteandred says...
10:06pm Fri 24 Aug 12

yes carlisle we are not out of our depth like the saints

Baddesley Bill says...
10:19pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
yes carlisle we are not out of our depth like the saints
Possibly the funniest comment I have ever read on a football thread....cheers Blue! :O)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:20pm Fri 24 Aug 12

derek james wrote:
St Retford wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
I reckon our Nige pulled off a tactical master stroke putting Ricky on the bench, he was a brilliant impact sub, city were dead on their feet for the last 10 mins & the game was there for the taking but then again it might of been the red tinted glasses I wearing
I agree. If you'd have given me a hundred guesses I'd never have picked the starting line-up that Nigel went for. Like everyone else I was scratching my head and thinking WTF when I saw it, but the fact is we ended up largely containing them, we scored two, we led for five minutes and spent the last ten minutes banging at their door for an equaliser. And this was after most people had expected us to lose by about five.

It was the most proud I've ever been of my team, and it was down to the genius of Nigel Adkins. I would follow that man into war, so whoever he starts with I shall support.
follow nigel into war? do us a favour retford, afghanistan awaits your talents, digging latrines that is !

COYR
If I had to die for my country I'd sooner follow NA than a bloke called Derek.

seventh-junction says...
10:23pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
poor poor saints cant attract any top class players dont take it out on me try adkins.
Nah....you'll do because you are a skunt c@nt
Taxi for Appy
If you all love Chanrai clap your hands!!!
WTFILN FOADP

seventh-junction says...
10:27pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Derek Nimmo wouldn't do a lot for troop moral.

warrens 76 says...
10:28pm Fri 24 Aug 12

There pompee til they die...not long to throw of this mortal coil then.

Rising_Son says...
10:31pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
poor poor saints cant attract any top class players dont take it out on me try adkins.
If you had learned to read properly, you would definitely have noticed that we have actually managed to attract the players. It's the team owners that don't want to let them go.

Time to go away and develop your literacy skills.

SFCOLDBOY says...
10:32pm Fri 24 Aug 12

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH DEAR FRIENDS.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE ARE THE BEST

WE NEED EVERY ONE TO LIFT THE ROOF OFF S.M.S.

LET'S GIVE OUR GREAT TEAM THE WELCOME THEY DESERVE

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE, WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!

FANTASTIC SUPPORT AT CITEH
MADE ME PROUD TO BE A SAINTS SUPPORTER.

HELLO AGAIN TO ALL OF OUR POSITIVE POSTERS ON HERE i.e.
REDARMY, CONFUCIUS, STRAS,
INSANE SAINT, TUGBOAT, SEED,
DAN, MUSH ON THE BEACH,BADS BILL,
I CAN GO ON AND ON EXCUSE ME FOR THE ONES I'VE MISSED.

We have got a massive part to play tommorow.

Sorry to shout but got to get my vocal chords limbered up for the game.

COYR.
SFCOLDBOY
What a dreamer your are
Great team HA HA HA HA
Positive posters they would praise the saints if they lost 10-0 . The fans have a big part to play yes the team are poor they need all the help they can get !
I recently decided to stop making comments to pompey supporters on this site.
For you I will make an exception.

True supporters would get behind their team even if they were hammered.
I am not a dreamer,I understand how difficult it is to play in the Premier league.
I am a dedicated supporter of the number one team on the south coast.
I feel justified in saying this by the fact that I have supported Saints for 50 years.
Most of those years have been spent in the top league of this country.
Can you make the same statement?
No! Course you can't!
I feel your energys should be better used trying to support your failing club instead of making pointless comments on this site.
COYR

seventh-junction says...
10:33pm Fri 24 Aug 12

They're poopie until Chanrai............s
ays so
Ha ha ha ha ha
WTFILN

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