Adkins: Wigan defeat is a reality check

9:00am Monday 27th August 2012 in Saints News Photograph of the Author By Gordon Simpson, Senior Sports Reporter

Adkins: Wigan defeat shows is a reality check Adkins: Wigan defeat shows is a reality check

Saints’ defeat against Wigan fully laid bare the demands of the Premier League , according to Nigel Adkins .

The manager watched his team lose their opening home fixture of the season 2-0, after succumbing to an accomplished second-half display from the Latics.

Saints had enjoyed the better of the first period at St Mary’s, but were unable to capitalise on their superiority.

After the break, they began to lose control of the contest and were picked off by Roberto Martinez’s men.

“Everyone knows a team who has just come up is in for a challenge,” said Adkins.

“We want to be positive and we have a winning mentality here.

“It is a game we were targeting three points and I thought we were positive.

“It just underlines how demanding the Premier League is.

“Every game is challenging and anybody can beat anybody.”

Under Adkins’ leadership, Saints have enjoyed remarkable success at St Mary’s.

Last season, they lost just three league games on their own turf, while setting a new club record for consecutive home wins. Combine that with Wigan’s often perceived status as one of the Premier League’s weaker teams and Adkins admitted there was perhaps too much of an expectancy that Saints would win.

“The reality is we’ve been very good here for the last two seasons,” said the Saints boss.

“We know being back in the Premier League it’s going to be really, really challenging.

“There’s no easy games. I think a lot of people might have turned up before the game looking at the fixture and thinking ‘Oh yeah, we should be able to go and beat Wigan Athletic.’ “But you’ve got to have a lot of respect for the opposition – I’ve always said that.

“We know it’s going to be tough and challenging and we’ve got to make sure we’re at the top of our game in everything we do.

“Concentration levels need to be high and we’ve got to be bang at it.”

Adkins agreed there were positives to take from the match, but warned Saints must be more ruthless as the season progresses.

“We were at home and had good possession for large periods and created good opportunities,” he said.

“The goalkeeper made good saves and we hit the woodwork on a number of occasions.

“It underlines in the Premier League you have got to take your chances when they are there. Wigan scored a very good goal.

“Kelvin had nothing to do during the game.

“If you make a mistake in the Premier League then you will get punished.”

Adkins would not be drawn, though, on whether he thought Jose Fonte had been fouled by Arouna Kone for Wigan’s second goal.

“There’s always going to be debate,” he said.

“The referee hasn’t give it. You’ve got to get on with it.”

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truelysaints says...
9:10am Mon 27 Aug 12

More concentration in bringing the players we need. If we dont then......

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alanrr says...
9:16am Mon 27 Aug 12

as i asked on hooiveld's piece why was every corner an inswinger.........mi
x it up especially when it's not working

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SaintMax says...
9:19am Mon 27 Aug 12

If we would have won 3 nil the powers that be may have thought we perhaps didn't need to invest and we'd be ok as we are. The loss highlighted our shortcomings. Lack of creativity in the middle of the park but more importantly a defence that 'didn't concentrate' as it should?
Defo need a commanding CB,

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bigfella777 says...
9:49am Mon 27 Aug 12

We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.

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Red n White says...
9:49am Mon 27 Aug 12

Why do we always give the opposition wingers so much room? Our full-backs always seem to come inside and help cover the strikers, leaving huge gaps behind them for the wingers. I thought Clyne was quick enough to play this as he could close the winger down quickly (although he got done once) but I'm not sure Fox is quick enough closing down.
We were crying out for a bit of pace down the wings, where was De Ridder?
I'd like to see Olsson, Phillips, Ramirez and a centre back from outside the UK.

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Cheapshot says...
9:50am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!

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Confucious says...
10:02am Mon 27 Aug 12

Look forward to new signings this week. Prem League income goes up a whopping 70% next year, after which the financial gap becomes mega-megamoney. The relegated sides next season get more than City got last season for winning the league.

It'll be a blood and guts battle at the bottom end come February and that's something I'd really like to watch as a relaxed neutral with Saints in safety.

It's a tricky one for Nicola. We neither want to risk relegation or financial problems from overspending.

I guess we want him to be an incorrigible optimist.....who carries and umbrella and wears a raincoat.

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bigfella777 says...
10:16am Mon 27 Aug 12

Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not at all, on Saturday Saints started with 6 English players on the pitch and 6 English players on the bench,none of whom play for the England senior squad.You tell me any other Prem side with a line up like that? Do you know how many English players Wigan started with? NONE, but most of their squad play for their national teams. This is the problem,they are totally out classed.

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Cheapshot says...
10:23am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not at all, on Saturday Saints started with 6 English players on the pitch and 6 English players on the bench,none of whom play for the England senior squad.You tell me any other Prem side with a line up like that? Do you know how many English players Wigan started with? NONE, but most of their squad play for their national teams. This is the problem,they are totally out classed.
Once again, you have absolutely no idea do you!! It's hilarious! It takes time to build a premiership team...how many class international players did Swansea and Norwich have at the start of last season?? You're either a skunt and an incredibly stupid individual. Adkins has guided us to back to back promotions and you want to sack him!!! Fool!

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truelysaints says...
10:24am Mon 27 Aug 12

Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not clueless but an element of tuth. Perhaps our meteoric rise is our worst enemy. The premier is a totally different “ball game” requiring different players, serious spending and management from the school of hard knocks. Nigel was good in the League divisions but I’m not sure he has what it takes in the premier. NC must commit in investing one way or another. As they say if you can’t handle the heat then get out of the kitchen

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White and red till dead says...
10:25am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not at all, on Saturday Saints started with 6 English players on the pitch and 6 English players on the bench,none of whom play for the England senior squad.You tell me any other Prem side with a line up like that? Do you know how many English players Wigan started with? NONE, but most of their squad play for their national teams. This is the problem,they are totally out classed.
So what has a "need for a prem manager" have to do with nationality of players?

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billythesaint says...
10:29am Mon 27 Aug 12

I'll panic after the window shuts if we haven't signed a winger and a couple of good defenders. Until then it's a bit pointless getting wound up and spouting anti-Adkins nonsense. Fingers crossed we'll have a tidy first eleven come Sunday to play Man Utd. No Rooney and hardly any fit defenders means we could kick start a nice season. Who knows. Fickle bunch on here sometimes I must say.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:32am Mon 27 Aug 12

Not exactly what we wanted to hear is it, papering over the cracks won't solve the problems and there is not a hint that anything will be done to improve things, I am not normally this negative but my patience is being tested.

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mike saint says...
10:35am Mon 27 Aug 12

Nigel Adkins warned Saints must be more ruthless why play with one striker against the weeker teams then?

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redsnapper says...
10:37am Mon 27 Aug 12

Ramirez will soon be a Saint, Corky will be back and if we dont have another CB by Friday then "Southampton we have a problem" because the weakest link does seem to be Fonte and the way his concentration fades towards the end of the game.

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angus mc coatup says...
10:39am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
we?

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bigfella777 says...
10:39am Mon 27 Aug 12

White and red till dead wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not at all, on Saturday Saints started with 6 English players on the pitch and 6 English players on the bench,none of whom play for the England senior squad.You tell me any other Prem side with a line up like that? Do you know how many English players Wigan started with? NONE, but most of their squad play for their national teams. This is the problem,they are totally out classed.
So what has a "need for a prem manager" have to do with nationality of players?
Well if he cant see what the problem is then who can? Have a look at the whole squad list on paper, when they get injuries they will be in big trouble.

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promised land says...
10:41am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
I don't recall when Jose Mourinho was at Chelsea anyone ever saying we need a prem manager, not a interpreter.

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likewatchingbrazil says...
10:43am Mon 27 Aug 12

rather get the right people or no people than the wrong ones who can cause more problems than they solve.
NA/NC know what is needed same as we do, be patient i'm sure we will be fine.
back to back promotions 2 games in and it's moan moan moan, have faith the future is bright it's red and white.
coyr. bye bye poopey poopey bye bye.

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Dorssaints says...
10:46am Mon 27 Aug 12

Saturday had some positives, but we would have caused more problems with 2 up front at home all of the game.
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People expecting us to do anymore than struggle in our first year are deluded.

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HarrytheHorse33 says...
10:47am Mon 27 Aug 12

Nigel Adkins deserves all the back up and support possible at the moment - after all, I think he he has earnt it. He must be as frustrated as the rest of us with the lack of transfer activity to date, however, I'm sure this will be seriously addressed before the window closes. I think it is now obvious to all where we need to strengthen, so lets leave it to them.

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dadofmy3sons says...
10:49am Mon 27 Aug 12

Saints being linked in all sorts of transfer rumours for 3 CB and various others.
BUT
There is also a rumour out there that Blackburn have bid £3m for Ricky.

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angus mc coatup says...
11:02am Mon 27 Aug 12

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Saints being linked in all sorts of transfer rumours for 3 CB and various others.
BUT
There is also a rumour out there that Blackburn have bid £3m for Ricky.
every player has a price in this game, and if they do come for him the club will have to weigh up the options.ricky has been fantastic for this club and the the club for him.but he is thirty years old and although I would hate it if he went you could understand the reasons why,his monetary value will start to fall from now on but lets hope that we can keep him for another couple of years.he has after all earned his shot at the prem.

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dean69 says...
11:22am Mon 27 Aug 12

There is no chance that we would sell Ricky. Blackburn your a joke. Do you think Ricky would want to drop back down after working so hard to get to the Prem. Donuts

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worried of n e hampshire says...
11:22am Mon 27 Aug 12

angus mc coatup wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Saints being linked in all sorts of transfer rumours for 3 CB and various others.
BUT
There is also a rumour out there that Blackburn have bid £3m for Ricky.
every player has a price in this game, and if they do come for him the club will have to weigh up the options.ricky has been fantastic for this club and the the club for him.but he is thirty years old and although I would hate it if he went you could understand the reasons why,his monetary value will start to fall from now on but lets hope that we can keep him for another couple of years.he has after all earned his shot at the prem.
Ricky is on a long contract and worth more than double that anyway
I notice on the OS fixture list we play AFC dons in Sept in the JPT?

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dean69 says...
11:22am Mon 27 Aug 12

There is no chance that we would sell Ricky. Blackburn your a joke. Do you think Ricky would want to drop back down after working so hard to get to the Prem. Donuts

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Steady Eddie says...
11:27am Mon 27 Aug 12

HarrytheHorse33 wrote:
Nigel Adkins deserves all the back up and support possible at the moment - after all, I think he he has earnt it. He must be as frustrated as the rest of us with the lack of transfer activity to date, however, I'm sure this will be seriously addressed before the window closes. I think it is now obvious to all where we need to strengthen, so lets leave it to them.
Hear hear. NA has done something which other managers would swop a jackpot lottery win to achieve - in less than two years he has taken us from the bottom of division one to the Premiership. People have short memories. We also have our fair share of clueless morons masquerading as Saints, a lot are able to post on this site, which is a shame, but technology is a wonderful thing these days !!!

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miltonarcher says...
11:30am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
This guy is a joke, look back at the drivel he posts on here, ignore him and he will crawl back under the rock where he belongs.

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Flashin the pan says...
11:33am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:33am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:33am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:34am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:34am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:34am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:34am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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magnette says...
11:34am Mon 27 Aug 12

Last Sunday Saints were nearly as good as Man City, this week they are worse than Wigan. Everyone was full of praise last week, and now its total criticism. But these are the same players with the same skills doing the same thing. There is a certain random nature about football, in any one game you can play well and lose, play badly and win. If Saints played Wigan everyday would it be 0-2 everyday? Statistics of the Wigan match was they had 12 shots and Saints had 24; had a couple gone in, which they very nearly did all these posts would have been different and yet it would have been the same match. The Premier League is a game of 38 halves Saints have only played 2.
Cheer up everyone - the next league game looks a piece of cake.

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Flashin the pan says...
11:35am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Flashin the pan says...
11:35am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?

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Velleity says...
11:39am Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Bigfella, saying "we" is rather disingenuous. You are not a fan, as any regular poster on here knows, so be honest and call Saints "you".

It'll stop the confusion of people thinking your views are those of a supporter of the team.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:48am Mon 27 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Saints being linked in all sorts of transfer rumours for 3 CB and various others.
BUT
There is also a rumour out there that Blackburn have bid £3m for Ricky.
every player has a price in this game, and if they do come for him the club will have to weigh up the options.ricky has been fantastic for this club and the the club for him.but he is thirty years old and although I would hate it if he went you could understand the reasons why,his monetary value will start to fall from now on but lets hope that we can keep him for another couple of years.he has after all earned his shot at the prem.
Ricky is on a long contract and worth more than double that anyway
I notice on the OS fixture list we play AFC dons in Sept in the JPT?
Misprint I believe, it is Southend not us.

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Velleity says...
11:50am Mon 27 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?
The suggestion that Pompey will be in the Championship next season gives us all the information we need about your football knowledge, old boy.

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Velleity says...
11:51am Mon 27 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?
The suggestion that Pompey will be in the Championship next season gives us all the information we need about your football knowledge, old boy.

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likewatchingbrazil says...
11:52am Mon 27 Aug 12

Flashin the pan wrote:
Reality check is that you lack premiership quality and still have too many Championship players stuck in your side. To avoid the inevitable it's means spending copious amounts of dosh on a few more players of real quality or be facing dreaded Pompey next season for more of those local derbies. What's worse?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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steveyot says...
11:57am Mon 27 Aug 12

Last week was lambasted on here for suggesting we need to sign six players, perhaps now more will agree. A goalkeeper is a must, we are a loss of form or an injury from having to put a 16year old or emergency loan on the bench. Our centre backs need strengthening, one lacks premiership pace (Jos) and Jose just doesn't look up to the mark. No creativity in the middle of the park. Schneiderlin is far too slow in his thinking and distribution. Guly has the speed of thought and the skill but he is made to look cumbersome by the lack of movement in the team. Fox is a liability at left back, unfair to expect Shaw to carry us for the season. Need one if not two with width and pace. Too many square pegs in round holes, i.e Rodriguez. Football is too slow and played in front of the oppositio defence, nothing in behind the defence or though the channels. One style of delivery at corners and clueless with throw in's. Before I am shouted down for being negative, remember it was NA talking up wanting to chase for Europe. A new team up in this division should have the team in place much sooner. Pressure is already on NA and the players, come on Saints step up to the plate.

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long memory says...
11:57am Mon 27 Aug 12

Red n White wrote:
Why do we always give the opposition wingers so much room? Our full-backs always seem to come inside and help cover the strikers, leaving huge gaps behind them for the wingers. I thought Clyne was quick enough to play this as he could close the winger down quickly (although he got done once) but I'm not sure Fox is quick enough closing down.
We were crying out for a bit of pace down the wings, where was De Ridder?
I'd like to see Olsson, Phillips, Ramirez and a centre back from outside the UK.
Agree 100%,their wingers seemed to have far to much space.Clyne(who I thought had a good game) often got into space on the wing only for the Saints players to pass the ball almost every time to Guly,who manage to get disposed or misplace his pass,or the ball was just played in the middle of the park,it was like watching ping pong.
I found it so frustrating to watch Wigan use the full width of the pitch,and creating space, but most of the time we wanted to only play in the middle of the park,and more often than not got dispossessed. Bring back Paine and Sydo.

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upwherewebelong says...
12:05pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Problem is three fold

1. Lack of concentration at the back mainly due to Jose and Fox. Jose's problem is simply he's been found out at this level. Fox likewise

2. Lack of focus from all areas of the club in bringing in new players in the key positions needed.

3. Although we created some chances against Wigan we didn't take them and lost the battle in midfield in the 2nd half.

Added to that is that in my opinion NA doesn't yet know what our best 11 is. No need to panic yet but I can't believe we've not made any signings since Clyne was brought in. I wonder whether the club actually think this squad is good enough so there is no need to strengthen. I've been told before to keep the faith which I am but come on it's now 3 days until the window slams shut and we can't do anything so we need to wake up and everyone at the club start making an effort to bring new players in

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Saintsteve7 says...
12:23pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Dorssaints wrote:
Saturday had some positives, but we would have caused more problems with 2 up front at home all of the game.
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People expecting us to do anymore than struggle in our first year are deluded.
We actually started to struggle Saturday when we converted to 4-4-2. Wigan outnumbered us in midfield and ran us ragged! 4-3-3 is the formation for this league, it's just gonna take a little bit of time to adjust. Watching Swansea rip up wet spam Saturday was a joy to watch but they had pace out wide. Over to you Nige!

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oldsaintsfan says...
12:31pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Confucious wrote:
Look forward to new signings this week. Prem League income goes up a whopping 70% next year, after which the financial gap becomes mega-megamoney. The relegated sides next season get more than City got last season for winning the league.

It'll be a blood and guts battle at the bottom end come February and that's something I'd really like to watch as a relaxed neutral with Saints in safety.

It's a tricky one for Nicola. We neither want to risk relegation or financial problems from overspending.

I guess we want him to be an incorrigible optimist.....who carries and umbrella and wears a raincoat.
Top posting.......tough calls for saints management over the next few days not least because all selling clubs will be looking for their pound of flesh for anyone half decent. Overspending followed by failure for whatever reason - the results unfortunately have been well documented elsewhere. As far as I can see - NC is a smart business man - but football is a mad business!

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randre says...
1:02pm Mon 27 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
Cheapshot wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We need a prem manager quickly, not a physio.
Clueless n0b!!
Not at all, on Saturday Saints started with 6 English players on the pitch and 6 English players on the bench,none of whom play for the England senior squad.You tell me any other Prem side with a line up like that? Do you know how many English players Wigan started with? NONE, but most of their squad play for their national teams. This is the problem,they are totally out classed.
Clueless nob!

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truelysaints says...
2:45pm Mon 27 Aug 12

HarrytheHorse33 wrote:
Nigel Adkins deserves all the back up and support possible at the moment - after all, I think he he has earnt it. He must be as frustrated as the rest of us with the lack of transfer activity to date, however, I'm sure this will be seriously addressed before the window closes. I think it is now obvious to all where we need to strengthen, so lets leave it to them.
In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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warrens 76 says...
2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12

One word will sum up what or players are lacking, what we they need to prosper and what will keep us up.
"Ruthless".

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JohnItaly says...
3:06pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Interesting stat. from BBC web-site. Wigan keeper Ali Al Habsi is in Garth Crooks's team of the week. He made 6 saves during the game which is the highest since January when he made 6 against Spurs. Wigan lost 3-1. Saints must have been doing something right.

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truelysaints says...
3:09pm Mon 27 Aug 12

In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.”

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truelysaints says...
3:09pm Mon 27 Aug 12

In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.”

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SaintDon13 says...
3:49pm Mon 27 Aug 12

In order to find out if NA is good enough, you have to give him a chance and also the tools to do the job, I think he can and will do it and I give him my full support.

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miltonarcher says...
5:23pm Mon 27 Aug 12

truelysaints wrote:
In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.”
What stupidity, after just 180mins of premiership football, 90 against the champions and 90 against a team who were very effective away from home last season and you are already judging NA. Pathetic. Get a life and get real, NA and the team need and deserve time, and our 100% support.

COYR !!!!!

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Fatty x Ford Worker says...
6:44pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Its a Championship team aint it ,Percy going nuts due to a lack of investment!

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Fatty x Ford Worker says...
7:12pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Problem with saints doesn't matter how much you spend on attackers, If your deffenders are a bunch of sandwich makers, Don't get me wrong got a bit of talent with Clyne he looks pacey, and isn't afraid to get forward on the ball, Fonte? didn't really rate him last season a championship player at best, Doesn't cut it in the Prem, Alarm bells started to ring with Guly aswell lost count of the amount of times against Wigan he gave the ball away I thought he was playing for Wigan at one point :) , Adkins isn't the blame the cheque book needs to come out and the squad needs some investment, starting with two premier league standard deffenders with a proven track record to handle the pressure and to boss the team. When the opposition has the ball I noticed that Saints sit back they don't show enough urgency and let them create to much space, They want to knock this on the head for a start and go to the players and show a bit of arsehole. J Rod now did we really spend 6 Million on this lad to play him on the Wing? wtf is all that about? .

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truelysaints says...
9:30pm Mon 27 Aug 12

miltonarcher wrote:
truelysaints wrote:
In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.”
What stupidity, after just 180mins of premiership football, 90 against the champions and 90 against a team who were very effective away from home last season and you are already judging NA. Pathetic. Get a life and get real, NA and the team need and deserve time, and our 100% support.

COYR !!!!!
So you are happy with the team and how hey are performing and with a little time without additional buys everything will be honky dory? Well I guess if that’s not stupidity I don’t know what is. Get real.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12

We are not exactly happy about it, just realistic and with a modicum of patience we anticipate a few signings to turn it around, one thing you also have to learn is that if the opposition is better than you, then you should appreciate that when they beat us, poor losers are just that, poor.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:30pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Its a Championship team aint it ,Percy going nuts due to a lack of investment!
They say "like owner, like pet".

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randre says...
11:29pm Mon 27 Aug 12

truelysaints wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
truelysaints wrote:
In business, one is only as good as ones last job (we can’t survive from what was achieved in the past). He had our backing in League 1 and Championship. Now we are in the Premiership and what we accomplished in the past stays in the past. NA, if he requires our backing now has to prove he can hack it in Premiership. So far it’s not looking good except for a few bleeding obvious sound bites such as "Wigan defeat is a reality check". The reality check is we need better players more concentration, and speedier wingers and some finger extractions before the end of the buying window. When fans have to pay what is being charged, and players are paid what they are paid then they have every right to be inpatient and expect immediate results for their money.”
What stupidity, after just 180mins of premiership football, 90 against the champions and 90 against a team who were very effective away from home last season and you are already judging NA. Pathetic. Get a life and get real, NA and the team need and deserve time, and our 100% support.

COYR !!!!!
So you are happy with the team and how hey are performing and with a little time without additional buys everything will be honky dory? Well I guess if that’s not stupidity I don’t know what is. Get real.
I have never read anything poSitive or supportive from you trulysaints. All I read from you is ant Adkins and Cortese drivel. For anyone to judge a team over 180 minutes of football IS showing stupidity. Especially when the performance against the league leaders was good and against Wigan we were a little naive. But with a couple of signings, time and SUPPORT, we will get there. If you want instant success support a team from Manchester!

Three years ago we all would have taken this. I don't think you are. A supporter, if you are then try some support for a change. I know everyone has an opinion and rightly so, but when all they spout us negativity without reasoned praise for what has been achieved then you are no good for this club.

This was always going to be a learning curve, let's try and support a little shall we rather than show complete ungrateful disregard for the people that have got us here.

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Oldfan says...
6:28am Tue 28 Aug 12

More than a few feared the result against Wigan based on what they had seen last season. If it was as simple as COYR that would be great but it isn't - this is the Premiership - and on a forum the discussion will go beyond blind loyalty.

As it is we are more than a bit dodgy at the back and do not have much pace - two attributes much needed in the Premiership.

Wigan was the litmus test for our club and we fell short but these shortcomings were apparent before this season started.

Personally I am still hoping for a successful season - and that is defined by a better league position than fourth bottom. But the squad needs to be strenghted by more than a couple of signings to achieve that. There isn't a lot of time left in the current transfer window and it may all be over by the time of the new window in January.

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saintray says...
9:41am Tue 28 Aug 12

Good morning all you wingers on this site,two games in and it seems some of you are in total panick mode,god forbid NA reads or hears any of this crap, dont you think he might just know a little more about the game of football than us,have some faith in him and the team hes putting together to keep Saints up where we all know Saints belong.

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classof'77 says...
9:42am Tue 28 Aug 12

Reading this stuff is amusing: two matches in and the panic merchants are out in full force. A couple of weeks ago I said we'd have to grit our teeth for the first couple of months, and I still say that. If we're still winless come the beginning of October, then I shall start to seriously worry.

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truelysaints says...
10:15am Tue 28 Aug 12

Saints new star on drunk charge driving his Porche, already.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:17am Tue 28 Aug 12

new? drunk charge? Porche?

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truelysaints says...
3:24pm Tue 28 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
new? drunk charge? Porche?
Yes sireee

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