Hooiveld: We will learn from Wigan defeat (From Daily Echo)
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Hooiveld: We will learn from Wigan defeat
7:00am Monday 27th August 2012 in Saints News
By Gordon Simpson, Senior Sports Reporter
Hooiveld: We will learn from Wigan defeat
Jos Hooiveld believes Saints were punished for a lapse in concentration against Wigan.
The centre half said the 2-0 defeat to the Latics had taught the team some harsh, but nonetheless valuable, lessons about life in the Premier League .
Paramount among those was that the players will not be able to get away with any loss of focus this season, according to Hooiveld.
“You think you’re in control of the game, then one break and it’s a goal,” he said.
“That is something that we have to be very careful of, be very concentrated and also as a unit we have to progress in that.”
The defender added: “The thing that I now realise, two games in, is that as soon as people drop a couple of percentages in their concentration you are going to get punished, like the first goal for example.
“We controlled the game quite okay until that moment, then you know it’s going to be difficult.
“They will be behind the ball and it’s difficult to break them down and the second goal you don’t really count it.”
Hooiveld also insisted that Saints did not keep the ball against Wigan as well as they are capable of.
“We were sloppy in ball possession sometimes, very sloppy I think,” he said.
“We lost a lot of times the ball in ways that we shouldn’t have and I think that cost us a little bit the game.”
The margins between success and failure can be fine, though, and Hooiveld believes there were encouraging moments from Saints throughout the match.
Had they breached the Wigan defence during a strong first-half showing, the Dutchman is confident it would have been a different game.
“Definitely,” he agreed. “There were great crosses in and a good shot from Adam (Lallana) as well.
“It would be great of course (to have scored first). You get that extra vibe. But, just as I say, we should have done better in some moments.”
Comments(14)
mitch76
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7:33am Mon 27 Aug 12
alanrr
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8:21am Mon 27 Aug 12
AKA The Saint
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8:37am Mon 27 Aug 12
Wigan also showed us even the lower teams know how to keep the ball and break with some speed. They had 3 chances and took two.
Fonte does look light, Fox doesn't anticipate and needs to see a gaping big gap before going forward, and only wakes up defensively when the opposition are on top of him. Jay has looked a little boy lost, working hard but he's not a left winger. Round pegs in round holes.
Davis and Morgan played too similar a role, and sorry Morgan is not showing himself as half the player his skill or technique deserve.
Man U only have one centre half at the moment, Arsenal are not scoring with no RVP, so two points out of the next two games are achieveable if we cut out the mistakes, and don't play Arsenal style football close to the box. Do as we did at City and take a couple of strikes early on, we can't pass the ball into the net in this league.
Keep the faith, but the faith may just need a couple of extra bits of quality this week Nigel!
See you Sunday!
Saintsincethe60s
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8:46am Mon 27 Aug 12
What has happened to Fonte? he used to ooze class, now every goal against seems to come through him, Nigel you've been brave in playing JWP perhaps you need to be equally brave in playing Jack Stephens with Jos
I know it's only 2 games in but we really should not be losing at "fortress St Marys" to the likes of Wigan.
Little Hitler
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8:54am Mon 27 Aug 12
Trust the management we must.
Strasbourg Saint
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9:08am Mon 27 Aug 12
Little Hitler wrote:Yep, chin up everyone. It's tough at the top - but the focus here is on the word TOP.
Already sense a lot of despondency from some fans. That's the last thing we need TBH.
Trust the management we must.
AKA, you make some good points there and I generally agree, but I thought Spiderman played well enough on Saturday.
Anyone wondering about this formation, especially at home in a match we would be looking to win?
Strasbourg Saint
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9:21am Mon 27 Aug 12
Meanwhile, do any Dutch fans have an opinion on Nicolai Boilesen?
SFCOLDBOY
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9:25am Mon 27 Aug 12
The first goal came about because J Rod didn't get back to prevent Wigans wide player receive the ball.
He was just stood watching.
This player then delivered the ball about 20 yards to the player moving to the corner of our area.
Jos and Danny Fox were at that point square to each other about 5 yards apart.
They watched as the player receiving the ball, 5 yards in front of them,slide the ball between the pair of them to the scorrer, who had run in behind.
The 3 issues that come out of this goal are:
1.Todays wingers have to get back to help out the defence, not stand on the half way line.
2. Danny Fox tends to drift back to the corner of his box and makes it easy for wingers to attack on our left.
3.Focus on who should challenge the ball and get in first and strong.
Over all Saints looked OK first half,we retained the ball well and were threatening at times.Should have gone in, in front.
We started the second half by over passing the ball and we were not creating any penetration.
Wigan got their 1st goal.
Saints players were getting frustrated began chasing the game.
Wigan then gave the Saints a lesson in keep-ball by pinging it all over.
Remember we did this to a few teams last season.
We can't wait for things to happen, we have to make them happen.
Come on Saints we have to up our game no one is going to give us anything in this league, every game is a cup final.
Bring on Man U.
COYR.
wild rupert
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10:24am Mon 27 Aug 12
AKA The Saint wrote:I agree with your post and I made same observations on a thread Saturday .We lack enough quality and prem experience .Our spirit as a team and a club is as one but as a couple of defeats show the spirit starts to wobble ,just look at some other posts.The problem is we have had 2 outstanding seasons and got used to success.The Premiership is a massive jump up and a lot of our team has been used to lower league football.Management is also new to this level ,they have to cast aside loyalty and sign players who can hit the floor running.Its a tough job getting here and a tougher one staying in this league
We look what we are on Saturday, a team just out of the Championship playing against Premiership teams. As we found out last week, make a slip up in defence and Prem teams score, that didn't happen last year.
Wigan also showed us even the lower teams know how to keep the ball and break with some speed. They had 3 chances and took two.
Fonte does look light, Fox doesn't anticipate and needs to see a gaping big gap before going forward, and only wakes up defensively when the opposition are on top of him. Jay has looked a little boy lost, working hard but he's not a left winger. Round pegs in round holes.
Davis and Morgan played too similar a role, and sorry Morgan is not showing himself as half the player his skill or technique deserve.
Man U only have one centre half at the moment, Arsenal are not scoring with no RVP, so two points out of the next two games are achieveable if we cut out the mistakes, and don't play Arsenal style football close to the box. Do as we did at City and take a couple of strikes early on, we can't pass the ball into the net in this league.
Keep the faith, but the faith may just need a couple of extra bits of quality this week Nigel!
See you Sunday!
dadofmy3sons
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11:10am Mon 27 Aug 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Wiki good for some basic info lists him as a left sided centre back. not a full back. competition for Jos or is one of them moving across, or going to 3 centre back system?
SkySports: "Tottenham have failed with their latest attempt to sign striker Willian from Shakhtar Donetsk. The Ukrainians are believed to have rejected an £11.8m offer for the Brazil international, who has set his heart on a move to White Hart Lane." It's not only us who are struggling to finalise deals at the right price.
Meanwhile, do any Dutch fans have an opinion on Nicolai Boilesen?
also linked with two centre backs in France can not remember details of those. A Cameroon and a Japanese , all sorts of rumours and a bid from Blackburn for Ricky , now quoted as £4m.
Strasbourg Saint
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11:20am Mon 27 Aug 12
dadofmy3sons wrote:I saw the Rickie thing. Next Poopey will be in for Adam!!!
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Wiki good for some basic info lists him as a left sided centre back. not a full back. competition for Jos or is one of them moving across, or going to 3 centre back system?
SkySports: "Tottenham have failed with their latest attempt to sign striker Willian from Shakhtar Donetsk. The Ukrainians are believed to have rejected an £11.8m offer for the Brazil international, who has set his heart on a move to White Hart Lane." It's not only us who are struggling to finalise deals at the right price.
Meanwhile, do any Dutch fans have an opinion on Nicolai Boilesen?
also linked with two centre backs in France can not remember details of those. A Cameroon and a Japanese , all sorts of rumours and a bid from Blackburn for Ricky , now quoted as £4m.
The Cameroonian/French player is Jean-Armel Kana-Biyik; he's at FC Rennes, who seem to be doing a lot of buying and selling this summer.
He plays for the French under 21s, so maybe Morgan can have a word.
The Japanese one is Maya Yoshida.
ButtyIoWSaint
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1:01pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Lets hope Spurs don't come back in for Ramirez. They were also linked with him before turning there attention to Willian. Now sold Modric, so they have the funds.
SkySports: "Tottenham have failed with their latest attempt to sign striker Willian from Shakhtar Donetsk. The Ukrainians are believed to have rejected an £11.8m offer for the Brazil international, who has set his heart on a move to White Hart Lane." It's not only us who are struggling to finalise deals at the right price.
Meanwhile, do any Dutch fans have an opinion on Nicolai Boilesen?
Rumours coming out of Italy say we have now agreed a deal with Bologna, and Gaston only needs a medical, with our medical team flying to Italy to complete it today.
As for Nicolai Boilesen! Looks just what we need. Another talented youngster plying his trade for a top European team (Ajax). http://www.youtube.c
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Apparently Newcastle were interested in him back in May. http://www.dailymail
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Also Manure had a look at him when he was 17.
ButtyIoWSaint
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1:16pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Puddletown Saint says...
7:11am Mon 27 Aug 12
Lets not get on there backs bur a speedy right winger and a top CB who has already learnt these lessons is a must
Come on you Reds