Adkins refuses to alter attacking style (From Daily Echo)

harryperth wrote:
rather a lot of ifs...if only our defence was a bit better if only we were a bit sharper we might have snuck a point,but we did"nt, let's see what the next six games brings then we can panic or not until then, COYR.

Confucious wrote:

harryperth wrote:
rather a lot of ifs...if only our defence was a bit better if only we were a bit sharper we might have snuck a point,but we did"nt, let's see what the next six games brings then we can panic or not until then, COYR.

That's an interesting point.

However, to be fair, although he says the word 'if' twice, he also uses the word 'but' five times. I think a 'but' (with it's reference to facts) cancels out an 'if' (with it's speculative/hopeful nuance) -and as there are more 'buts' than 'ifs' then the balance is heavily towards the facing-the-facts 'but' end of things.

If there had been more ifs they would have added to the truth - and of course adding to the truth automatically subtracts from it.

I think Nige's most telling comment - astutely picked up by the Echo - was: "You've got to score goals to win a game of football and likewise you've got to keep them out at the other end."

A mathematical expression of this would be 3-1.

Confucious wrote:

harryperth wrote:
rather a lot of ifs...if only our defence was a bit better if only we were a bit sharper we might have snuck a point,but we did"nt, let's see what the next six games brings then we can panic or not until then, COYR.

That's an interesting point.

However, to be fair, although he says the word 'if' twice, he also uses the word 'but' five times. I think a 'but' (with it's reference to facts) cancels out an 'if' (with it's speculative/hopeful nuance) -and as there are more 'buts' than 'ifs' then the balance is heavily towards the facing-the-facts 'but' end of things.

If there had been more ifs they would have added to the truth - and of course adding to the truth automatically subtracts from it.

I think Nige's most telling comment - astutely picked up by the Echo - was: "You've got to score goals to win a game of football and likewise you've got to keep them out at the other end."

A mathematical expression of this would be 3-1.

JohnItaly wrote:
Perhaps he is looking to break the record of the number of goals scored by a relegated side! Must admit have no idea what it is. Seem to remember Man City being relegated having scored 84 goals. Sure someone can put me right.

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I'm sure Adkins doesn't etch the same game as us! Lol

I think he's had too many chances already this season to get it right an he still can't play out best team... Why drop our best player (Puncheon) who's bang on form???

Chaplow on for Lallana 89th minute 3-1 down??? Not good enough Nigel. Lallana has looked half the player he has been this season and I think that's because of the extra responsibility and he's not concentrating enough on his own game. The new system was a brave move too!

loosehead wrote:
So do you think he's now realising Fonte's not up to it?
I agree with an attacking approach but you must have a competent defence to allow the attacking game

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Mr. Miyagi wrote:

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Fortunately, there is only one team that has a Fellani! Trouble is we have to play them again this season.

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I'm sure Adkins doesn't etch the same game as us! Lol

I think he's had too many chances already this season to get it right an he still can't play out best team... Why drop our best player (Puncheon) who's bang on form???

Chaplow on for Lallana 89th minute 3-1 down??? Not good enough Nigel. Lallana has looked half the player he has been this season and I think that's because of the extra responsibility and he's not concentrating enough on his own game. The new system was a brave move too!

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Block 34 wrote:
6 games gone, out of the relegation zone, 6 pts behind Arsenal, 2 behind Liverpool. With the fixture list we've had that's not bad at all!! Keep the Faith!!!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too: -They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence. A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on. And a fanbase reduced to civil war.- Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Do they have more dead-line days than they have paid on time days?

angus mc coatup wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Is it a club where the the soon to be new owners have put them into administration twice before,and once they get hold of the finances it's goodnight nurse.

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too: -They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence. A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on. And a fanbase reduced to civil war.- Clue: there are only a Few of them.

do they smell of fish?

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
we need another clue

manosussex wrote:

Confucious wrote:

harryperth wrote:
rather a lot of ifs...if only our defence was a bit better if only we were a bit sharper we might have snuck a point,but we did"nt, let's see what the next six games brings then we can panic or not until then, COYR.

That's an interesting point.

However, to be fair, although he says the word 'if' twice, he also uses the word 'but' five times. I think a 'but' (with it's reference to facts) cancels out an 'if' (with it's speculative/hopeful nuance) -and as there are more 'buts' than 'ifs' then the balance is heavily towards the facing-the-facts 'but' end of things.

If there had been more ifs they would have added to the truth - and of course adding to the truth automatically subtracts from it.

I think Nige's most telling comment - astutely picked up by the Echo - was: "You've got to score goals to win a game of football and likewise you've got to keep them out at the other end."

A mathematical expression of this would be 3-1.

Spot on

St Retford wrote:

Mr. Miyagi wrote:

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Fortunately, there is only one team that has a Fellani! Trouble is we have to play them again this season.

We should buy him first.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Yep. From my vantage point behind two pillars and under a low rafter I concur.

We do need to strengthen the defence furthr but don't forget we have replaced the keeper, RB an 1 CB - there's only two to go!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
we need another clue

They have 6 fingers and special 'uncles'.

Mr. Miyagi wrote:

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Fortunately, there is only one team that has a Fellani! Trouble is we have to play them again this season.

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

Yep. From my vantage point behind two pillars and under a low rafter I concur.

We do need to strengthen the defence furthr but don't forget we have replaced the keeper, RB an 1 CB - there's only two to go!

I think we must have been sat quite near each other.

To be honest I think our only major priority is a left back. Clyne is decent defensively there but he doesn't look comfortable going forward on that flank because he's not left footed. Richardson does ok defensively on the right but his passing isn't up to Premier League standard. So what happens is we look in real danger of giving the ball away whenever it's on the flanks in our own half and this isn't ideal. We need a quality left back so we can send Clyne back to his natural position and this problem is solved.

(I'd also quite like us to buy Fellani or some similarly big bugger to run the midfield. I'd settle for Toure. Or Diaby. Or even Shelvey. I think every big club needs one.)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

angus mc coatup wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
we need another clue

They have 6 fingers and special 'uncles'.

ummmm!
do they think those special
" uncles " are the bestest most bestest
uncles in the whole world.and can't grasp the concept of fair play and actually paying for something.

Walter K wrote:
Pockets of naivety and inability to cope with movement will make a tough season even tougher. If NA is to remain he needs to get some top level experience into his Backroom Staff asap. We can't keep saying "never mind, we'll start our season again next week".

Confucious wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

Bit of a trick question methinks.

You must be actually talking about the Bombay PooPees. The team plays in the Mumbai Rubbish Tip Dwellers Premier Div, but all the players actually live in holes in the municipal sewage farm. They keep winning the league, because they are so dirty and smelly that no-one will tackle them. They also have trained rats living up their bottoms which run out, zip up opposing players' shorts and bite their todgers. They beat Mumbai Scavengers 187-0 on Saturday...the only comfort afforded to their supporters being the traditional "You live in a sh!thole" refrain.

Of course you expected me to fall for your ploy and name the only club in the world that is actually worse than them - but I didn't fall for it!

SaintPC wrote:
I cant believe the negativity on here, AGAIN, from so many people! If you expected anything other than what we have seen so far this season then you are deluded!

Saints were always going to struggle this season, and especially against the top teams. There are 19 other teams in the league, of which we can realistically expect to give 11 of them a decent game.

We shouldnt expect much from:

Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Everton, Liverpool, Newcastle

The other 11 teams we should be able to give a good go. That gives us 22 games to and get points from - win 10 of those (mostly at home I expect) and pick up some draws and that is where you get safety from. Anything you then get from the other 16 games is a bonus....perhaps 5 points total from those games.

That then gives us January and next summer to continue to build the squad and progress the club.

Remember that we are a year ahead of the plan, and therefore it will take us a little while longer to overhaul the entire squad, you cant do that in one summer - and we knew it had to be done for the premier league.

Consider this season a bonus, we stay up and continue to build.....patience and belief are key.

Leave Adkins and Cortese alone to get on with it. Turn up, hope, believe, sing and then dont complain if we struggle!!

Together as one!

angus mc coatup wrote:
sorry seedy
need another clue.

magnette wrote:

Confucious wrote:

harryperth wrote: rather a lot of ifs...if only our defence was a bit better if only we were a bit sharper we might have snuck a point,but we did"nt, let's see what the next six games brings then we can panic or not until then, COYR.

That's an interesting point. However, to be fair, although he says the word 'if' twice, he also uses the word 'but' five times. I think a 'but' (with it's reference to facts) cancels out an 'if' (with it's speculative/hopeful nuance) -and as there are more 'buts' than 'ifs' then the balance is heavily towards the facing-the-facts 'but' end of things. If there had been more ifs they would have added to the truth - and of course adding to the truth automatically subtracts from it. I think Nige's most telling comment - astutely picked up by the Echo - was: "You've got to score goals to win a game of football and likewise you've got to keep them out at the other end." A mathematical expression of this would be 3-1.

I think Adkins is talking out of his "butt"!

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Walter K wrote:
Pockets of naivety and inability to cope with movement will make a tough season even tougher. If NA is to remain he needs to get some top level experience into his Backroom Staff asap. We can't keep saying "never mind, we'll start our season again next week".

totaly agree.NA and his back staff are out of their depth at this level.guess thats why NC wanted to get someone different in at the end of last season.silly what if question.what if chelsea never beat bayern in the champions league and abramovich sacked Roberto D.

Nicole23 wrote:
Anyone who thought we would go and win at Goodison park is deluded,but the 18 goals in 6 is scary and this isnt about poor players this is down to tactics pure and simple imo.

St Retford wrote:
We didn't lose on Saturday because of our defenders. We lost because Everton were able to run straight through our midfield as though they weren't there.

But Everton are a decent side and Fellani is one of the greatest players in the League - he bossed the midfield and sprayed passes around like a god. Most teams we play don't have a Fellani.

St Retford wrote:
Right, who's turned the tw@t magnet up?

TEBOURBA wrote:
I never believed I would say it, but any Manager who has conceded an average of 3 goals a game and has won one out of six and says he is not changing his tactics, beggars belief.
NA has gone down in my estimation.
For God's sake, great teams have great defences, just name me one that hasn't had a superb defence.
The opportunity to strengthen was in the close season and both NC and NA, didn't recognise Saints defensive weaknesses and by doing so, failed their life blood, the supporters.
Bring Hoddle back NOW as advisor to NA.
Glenn is a master tactician, forget the fact that he chose Spurs over Saints, under his management Saints had their finest defensive record in my memory!
In my opinion, unless he sees sense, by his comments, NA has shown his inexperience at the top level has signed his own death warrant!
Remember you read it here first!!

Alicesdad wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
I never believed I would say it, but any Manager who has conceded an average of 3 goals a game and has won one out of six and says he is not changing his tactics, beggars belief.
NA has gone down in my estimation.
For God's sake, great teams have great defences, just name me one that hasn't had a superb defence.
The opportunity to strengthen was in the close season and both NC and NA, didn't recognise Saints defensive weaknesses and by doing so, failed their life blood, the supporters.
Bring Hoddle back NOW as advisor to NA.
Glenn is a master tactician, forget the fact that he chose Spurs over Saints, under his management Saints had their finest defensive record in my memory!
In my opinion, unless he sees sense, by his comments, NA has shown his inexperience at the top level has signed his own death warrant!
Remember you read it here first!!

Will the Sister on the TEBOURBA ward please keep her patients in bed and keep the doors locked.

Jesus_02 wrote:
hahaha!!

Who that posting on MY forum

Walter K wrote:
Pockets of naivety and inability to cope with movement will make a tough season even tougher. If NA is to remain he needs to get some top level experience into his Backroom Staff asap. We can't keep saying "never mind, we'll start our season again next week".

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Today's quiz, starter for ten, which club is this quote refering too:


-They will be inheriting a barren land long ravaged by mismanagement and breath-taking incompetence.

A club scrambling around in the dark desperately seeking a solid crutch to drag itself up on.

And a fanbase reduced to civil war.-



Clue: there are only a Few of them.

angus mc coatup wrote:

Jesus_02 wrote:
hahaha!!

Who that posting on MY forum

sorry !
don't get cross.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
sorry seedy
need another clue.

They go on about 'history and tradition' quite a bit.

angus mc coatup wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, who's turned the tw@t magnet up?

hahahah !!
this forum needs a like button.

St Retford wrote:
Right, who's turned the tw@t magnet up?

Confucious wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
sorry seedy
need another clue.

They go on about 'history and tradition' quite a bit.

Is it one of those rubbish clubs which pose as a good one? ie

Fatzio? Bumfica? Real Ale Madrid? Fiorentina Turner? Brian Munich? Parmesan Belgrade? Substandard Liege? Dyslexia Untied?

Or one of the bad "mouths" such as Badmouth, Bigmouth and Loudmouth?

Do the fans smell awful like skunks ......or something very like that?

TEBOURBA wrote:
Can anyone tell me of any team in any Division that has leaked an average of 3 goals a game, (that's 114 a season in the Premiership) and has NOT been relegated?
NC and NA need to wake up NOW before it's too late, as do all of the blind and blinkered supporters, who contribute to this column, who think Saints management can do no wrong.
Bring in Hoddle as an advisor to NA NOW before it's too late!!
Remember you read it here first!!.
It would be nice for a change to read opposite, considered and thought provoking arguments, to match my intellect and experience but I expect I will have to put up with the balderdash and insults from the cretins who claim they know something about football.
What they know can be written on the head of a pin with room to spare!!!!

angus mc coatup wrote:

St Retford wrote: Right, who's turned the tw@t magnet up?

hahahah !! this forum needs a like button.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Can anyone tell me of any team in any Division that has leaked an average of 3 goals a game, (that's 114 a season in the Premiership) and has NOT been relegated? NC and NA need to wake up NOW before it's too late, as do all of the blind and blinkered supporters, who contribute to this column, who think Saints management can do no wrong. Bring in Hoddle as an advisor to NA NOW before it's too late!! Remember you read it here first!!. It would be nice for a change to read opposite, considered and thought provoking arguments, to match my intellect and experience but I expect I will have to put up with the balderdash and insults from the cretins who claim they know something about football. What they know can be written on the head of a pin with room to spare!!!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Jesus_02 wrote:
hahaha!!

Who that posting on MY forum

sorry !
don't get cross.

You will get crucified saying things like that.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy me parrot got more brains than you lot rock bottom by Crimbo.Why is that you ask quite simply attack attack is showing a paper thin defence!

saintand266 wrote:
TEBOURBA-aka wise old elf,mystic meg ,the bestest most cleverest human being ever to bless our planet/ world/galaxy - I may be a thick stupid cretin who does not know anything about football but I find it strange that the vast majority of people on here have the same opinion of you ? But then with your vast knowledge and greater intellect and your inside information how our beloved team is run eg NC picking the team, I guess us cretins are just jealous of you or is it because you have fishy fingers and no one gives a s##t what you say?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy me parrot got more brains than you lot rock bottom by Crimbo.Why is that you ask quite simply attack attack is showing a paper thin defence!

Thanks for cheering us up with such positive post. Is Percy blue?

pompey in spain wrote:
seedy!!!!....you have got a thing for my team i think?..lots of probs now for your lot AND YOU STILL TALK ABOUT GODS CELESTiAL TEAM!!! GET A LIFE.ADMIT IT .even ive noticed the so called fans on here turning on harry potter sorry NA!
and its just turned october!!!!

angus mc coatup wrote:

Confucious wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
sorry seedy
need another clue.

They go on about 'history and tradition' quite a bit.

Is it one of those rubbish clubs which pose as a good one? ie

Fatzio? Bumfica? Real Ale Madrid? Fiorentina Turner? Brian Munich? Parmesan Belgrade? Substandard Liege? Dyslexia Untied?

Or one of the bad "mouths" such as Badmouth, Bigmouth and Loudmouth?

Do the fans smell awful like skunks ......or something very like that?

I think their name is an amalgamation of two very discriptive words.
the second of which sums them up very nicely.

angus mc coatup wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Jesus_02 wrote:
hahaha!!

Who that posting on MY forum

sorry !
don't get cross.

You will get crucified saying things like that.

It's pretty much a certainty !

In fact it's nailed on !!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy me parrot got more brains than you lot rock bottom by Crimbo.Why is that you ask quite simply attack attack is showing a paper thin defence!

Thanks for cheering us up with such positive post. Is Percy blue?

Dave Juson wrote:
Frankly, I'd rather be relegated with Our Nige than be guided by most of the input on this website.
He has a record of bouncing back after adversity.

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
LET ME SAY,I hate to see my team being toncked, the way they are at the moment.
That said I am fed up with the doom mongers and amatuer managers on here constantly knocking NA.
I accept some of his substitutions have been dubious.
The man is learning on the hoof,this league is unforgiving.
His previous management knowledge of the Premier league is zero.
Give him a break he deserves some time to get it right.
His management of Saints over the previous 2 seasons has been fantastic.
Doomsayers will say we will be buried before he gets it right.
I want to see my team playing football the Southampton way even if it means we have to do it again in the Championship.
The massive learning curve we have had to bare can only be beneficial long term.
We all nead to learn to have patience,I know it's not easy when we are so accustomed to winning.
Come on everyone get behind the team and management.
Sunday is our next cup final so lets let the team see how much we want them to succeed by lifting the roof of of the stadium.
COYR

mack chinnon wrote:

Dave Juson wrote: Frankly, I'd rather be relegated with Our Nige than be guided by most of the input on this website. He has a record of bouncing back after adversity.

And me.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Can anyone tell me of any team in any Division that has leaked an average of 3 goals a game, (that's 114 a season in the Premiership) and has NOT been relegated? NC and NA need to wake up NOW before it's too late, as do all of the blind and blinkered supporters, who contribute to this column, who think Saints management can do no wrong. Bring in Hoddle as an advisor to NA NOW before it's too late!! Remember you read it here first!!. It would be nice for a change to read opposite, considered and thought provoking arguments, to match my intellect and experience but I expect I will have to put up with the balderdash and insults from the cretins who claim they know something about football. What they know can be written on the head of a pin with room to spare!!!!

TEBOURBA wrote:
Can anyone tell me of any team in any Division that has leaked an average of 3 goals a game, (that's 114 a season in the Premiership) and has NOT been relegated?
NC and NA need to wake up NOW before it's too late, as do all of the blind and blinkered supporters, who contribute to this column, who think Saints management can do no wrong.
Bring in Hoddle as an advisor to NA NOW before it's too late!!
Remember you read it here first!!.
It would be nice for a change to read opposite, considered and thought provoking arguments, to match my intellect and experience but I expect I will have to put up with the balderdash and insults from the cretins who claim they know something about football.
What they know can be written on the head of a pin with room to spare!!!!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

mack chinnon wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Can anyone tell me of any team in any Division that has leaked an average of 3 goals a game, (that's 114 a season in the Premiership) and has NOT been relegated?
NC and NA need to wake up NOW before it's too late, as do all of the blind and blinkered supporters, who contribute to this column, who think Saints management can do no wrong.
Bring in Hoddle as an advisor to NA NOW before it's too late!!
Remember you read it here first!!.
It would be nice for a change to read opposite, considered and thought provoking arguments, to match my intellect and experience but I expect I will have to put up with the balderdash and insults from the cretins who claim they know something about football.
What they know can be written on the head of a pin with room to spare!!!!

NO.

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

manosussex wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:
Anyone who thought we would go and win at Goodison park is deluded,but the 18 goals in 6 is scary and this isnt about poor players this is down to tactics pure and simple imo.

Yep

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

TEBOURBA wrote:
I never believed I would say it, but any Manager who has conceded an average of 3 goals a game and has won one out of six and says he is not changing his tactics, beggars belief.
NA has gone down in my estimation.
For God's sake, great teams have great defences, just name me one that hasn't had a superb defence.
The opportunity to strengthen was in the close season and both NC and NA, didn't recognise Saints defensive weaknesses and by doing so, failed their life blood, the supporters.
Bring Hoddle back NOW as advisor to NA.
Glenn is a master tactician, forget the fact that he chose Spurs over Saints, under his management Saints had their finest defensive record in my memory!
In my opinion, unless he sees sense, by his comments, NA has shown his inexperience at the top level has signed his own death warrant!
Remember you read it here first!!

Tony in Liberia wrote:
As I said before, I've got £300 on us to be top ten this season, and I still think that's a safe bet.

And I'll repeat my offer to bet anyone here that NA will still be our manager at the end of the season.

Also, Fonte doesn't seem to be the problem defensively; as the new guy said, the ball came through the midfield too easily. They were coming down the wings and getting the ball into the box - if Dave Merrington can see it, anyone can!!!! And according to him, the thing we don't want to do now is lose every game until the end of the season...

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

so your're a professional football manager (premier league) ? ........ i thought not !

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

Dropped? I thought we had a SQUAD of players out of which Nigel picks the team he thinks is right, based on who he has available and the shape he thinks has the best chance of success.

Now, we might disagree with him, but how does not starting with Punch equate to him being dropped?

It's a long season and NA's ability to maximise his squad by rotating it has proved highly successful since he arrived.

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Well you'd of thought so but taking Lambert, lalllana and Puncheon off when you're 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I'm not so sure.

thomasupton wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

Dropped? I thought we had a SQUAD of players out of which Nigel picks the team he thinks is right, based on who he has available and the shape he thinks has the best chance of success.

Now, we might disagree with him, but how does not starting with Punch equate to him being dropped?

It's a long season and NA's ability to maximise his squad by rotating it has proved highly successful since he arrived.

Well it's certainly not working this season.

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

so your're a professional football manager (premier league) ? ........ i thought not !

No I'm a season ticket holder.

Mowyjoe wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Well you'd of thought so but taking Lambert, lalllana and Puncheon off when you're 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I'm not so sure.

they were tired! tey had been running ragged against one of the best teams in the world
why do so many people find that hard to notice?

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

so your're a professional football manager (premier league) ? ........ i thought not !

No I'm a season ticket holder.

so ?

ghk230473 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

One thing for sure if punch played the score wouldn't have been worse! Pretty sure he wasn't injured. I'm behind Adkins as there is no one better out there to replace him and we need continuity, BUT he does make some confusing decision which are hard to defend.

thomasupton wrote:

Mowyjoe wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Well you'd of thought so but taking Lambert, lalllana and Puncheon off when you're 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I'm not so sure.

they were tired! tey had been running ragged against one of the best teams in the world
why do so many people find that hard to notice?

I was there they all looked fine to me. They were picked for the team, they should be fit. If they're not fit then that's the managers job to get them fit.

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

so your're a professional football manager (premier league) ? ........ i thought not !

No I'm a season ticket holder.

so ?

I'm not a football manager.

thomasupton wrote:

Mowyjoe wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Well you'd of thought so but taking Lambert, lalllana and Puncheon off when you're 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I'm not so sure.

they were tired! tey had been running ragged against one of the best teams in the world
why do so many people find that hard to notice?

I was there they all looked fine to me. They were picked for the team, they should be fit. If they're not fit then that's the managers job to get them fit.

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

One thing for sure if punch played the score wouldn't have been worse! Pretty sure he wasn't injured. I'm behind Adkins as there is no one better out there to replace him and we need continuity, BUT he does make some confusing decision which are hard to defend.

"one thing for sure" ............ i wish i had your hindsight (as does nigel) ........ easy peasy after the event !

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

Mowyjoe wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Mowyjoe wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

neither do I but I'm sure there was a valid reason.and do you think playing punchion would have made that much difference, as he has played mostly down the right. everton scored two goals from crosses on the other flank.

Well for what ever reason, we lost that's a fact. He didn't deserve to be dropped. He played brilliant against Villa, and then gets dropped. And yes I think it would have made a difference

Do you think there's possibly even a slight chance, however small, that NA may have noticed that he played brilliant (sic) against Villa?

Perhapes there was another reason he didn't play him. Do you think there might be a possibility that that is true?

Well you'd of thought so but taking Lambert, lalllana and Puncheon off when you're 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I'm not so sure.

they were tired! tey had been running ragged against one of the best teams in the world
why do so many people find that hard to notice?

I was there they all looked fine to me. They were picked for the team, they should be fit. If they're not fit then that's the managers job to get them fit.

yeh they were if you couldnt see that you must be blind, Lambert was especially dead on his feet
with all the adrenaline at playing a team like united in the prem and leading its understandable for them to be tired, these are players that arent used to the big games yet, theyre like cup finals, had we left them on there would be a serious risk of injuries

definaltely not worried though, just look at the teams we have played and have some perspective on the situation rather than boggling at league table stats, had we played the same teams as West Ham then yes i would be worried bt we have played Arsenal, Man U, Man C and Everton who have lost only 1 in 15, not may teams are going to pick up anything against those 4 this season especially teams around us

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I'm not hitting the panic button, but the fact is we have won one game and are conceding a lot of goals.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

can't really argue with that ....... except to say that if it comes off it's inspired , if it don't then it's inept ......not "rocket science" but not as easy as some may think .

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

just read this rubbish again people.
"everyone seems to just accept it".
well what the hell can we do about it.

just in case you aint noticed we don't actually pick or coach the players to affect what you called " severe defensive frailties".

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

can't really argue with that ....... except to say that if it comes off it's inspired , if it don't then it's inept ......not "rocket science" but not as easy as some may think .

I spoke to someone who was on the coaching staff at Arsenal last year. He said for the 4th tier there are probably 500 available candidates for every management vacancy, for the 3rd tier 50, for the 2nd, 10 and for the top tier probably 4 or 5 and only a 50% chance any of them will cut the mustard.... said it all really....

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

yes but NASA aren't as good as they used to be at it......

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

yes but NASA aren't as good as they used to be at it......

...could be an inroad for you there then MGRA....

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

yes but NASA aren't as good as they used to be at it......

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

yes but NASA aren't as good as they used to be at it......

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I don't see too much negativity... quite the opposite in fact, to hear fans questioning why JP was dropped is pretty positive... anyone who is worried about NA getting the boot due to dodgy decisions are not being negative...99% of fans want him to succeed so when paying fans see decisions they do not understand its understandable that there will be unease..... Football management is tactics-heavy but its not rocket science....

Sorry MGRA...fooball management on a budget IS rocket science. That is why successful managers progress and get to earn £7mill with the big clubs isn't it? If it is so easy, perhaps we all ought to get our CV's in to NC. Is yours in yet?

Knowing which players you have that are best at keeping the ball is not as complicated as designing, building and operating a vertical launch muliple use rocket system. Thats obvious of course...... Candidates for Prem Management also dont have to have CVs.... they would be laughed at !! :0) I just think footy fans like to question in detail, its always been the case,,, I just don't see it always as "negative".

They design, build and operate muliple use rocket systems?..wow...I bow to you superior knowledge...I thought it took a whole NASA type set up to do that! :O)

yes but NASA aren't as good as they used to be at it......

ben dover wrote:
great fake tan but tactics are a joke,bring in a clown..........

thomasupton wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday.

Dropped? I thought we had a SQUAD of players out of which Nigel picks the team he thinks is right, based on who he has available and the shape he thinks has the best chance of success.

Now, we might disagree with him, but how does not starting with Punch equate to him being dropped?

It's a long season and NA's ability to maximise his squad by rotating it has proved highly successful since he arrived.

Well it's certainly not working this season.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I'm not hitting the panic button, but the fact is we have won one game and are conceding a lot of goals.

No sh1t Sherlock. I seem to remember you had us down for being doomed last season. We got promoted...then you disappeared for a while. Do you only post when we lose?

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I'm not hitting the panic button, but the fact is we have won one game and are conceding a lot of goals.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

Block 34 wrote:
6 games gone, out of the relegation zone, 6 pts behind Arsenal, 2 behind Liverpool. With the fixture list we've had that's not bad at all!! Keep the Faith!!!

petethephantom wrote:

Block 34 wrote:
6 games gone, out of the relegation zone, 6 pts behind Arsenal, 2 behind Liverpool. With the fixture list we've had that's not bad at all!! Keep the Faith!!!

i agree 100%
saints have played MAN C currently 4th away, man u 3rd home, everton 2nd away and arsenal 8th away
we are in alot better placed than others, eg
villa only played everton at home for draw, fullham played man u away lose,
wet spam none of big 4 ( sunderland 13th home draw, norwich away 18th draw, fulham home 9th win, swansea away 11th draw and villahome 15th win.
norwich only tottenham away currently 5th for a draw
wigan.. man u away lose, chelsea home lose, fullham home lose and stoke home lose

so by my calculations we have played 4 of the big 5 , 3 of those 4 were away, and we were in front of 2 of them (2-1 up at a stages in game) but simple lapses cost us
simple learn from it , move on and be positive...we are going alright
C O Y R from sydney oz

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

ben dover wrote:
great fake tan but tactics are a joke,bring in a clown..........

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I still find it quite amazing that our negs have hit the panic button. This league is a massive step up...and with the exception of Wigan, we have lost against some of the best it has to offer. We have to make the best of the squad we have (to expect that we fund a full squad of proven Prem quality players pre-season was simply unrealistic).
There are far weaker, less stable sides in this league...beat them...and we'll be fine. Rome was not built in a day. Keeping the faith here.

I'm not hitting the panic button, but the fact is we have won one game and are conceding a lot of goals.

No sh1t Sherlock. I seem to remember you had us down for being doomed last season. We got promoted...then you disappeared for a while. Do you only post when we lose?

Hold my hands up to that one, admit I was wrong but it was a lot closer than it needed to be. As for being negative I've simply questioned Adkins tactics, as a season ticket holder I think I have a right to my opinion, the same as you do. I do keep the faith because I'm there every week.

RedArmy1 wrote:
Think the attacking style - getting numbers forward is great at Home where the expectation is to score plenty of goals and WIN well.

Next up are two winnable games and a minimum of 4 / 6 points.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRMY

St.David wrote:
It certainly has been a baptism of fire but I still would not want to be in any other league. We have got used to winning over the last three years and I optimistically thought we could stroll into the Premier League and bully a few of the big boys. But they are where they are for a very good reason and when we do start knocking them off of their pedestals it will feel even better. We have found out where we are lacking and I trust in NA and NC to put that right. With what we have I sill believe we are good enough to finish mid table. The next five games will give a good indication. . . Winning four out of five is very possible and our run in at the end of the season looks good. Nigel is definitely the right man to take our great club to the next level. COYRs !!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

Ashley Amed? English mother, Pakistani father. Promising left back, who Pearce is desperate to get into the England set up before he runs off to play for Pakistan. Yet Nigel failed to sign him!

All ST holders should demand answers - NOW.

I didn't queue up all day at SMS, pay a fiver for parking, armed with a huge cheque for 5 season tickets in August ................



................



................ I admit. BUT, I have the right to insist that the club does what I want and it starts with signing everyone I've ever heard of and bringing in Hoddle (in charge of tactical spirituality), Redknapp (physical financial meltdown and English grammar) and George Graham (to source a cheap brown paper bag supplier).

Alicesdad wrote:
An anagram

"Bra Be Out"

Clue : Informs the world that he has enormous intellect, more knowledge than anyone else, vast experience and is truly the most modest and humble life form found under the average garden rockery. Has a patholgical obsession with criticising the management with a knee jerk reaction that is faster than Usain Bolt.

puppy saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

How's this................

..............

Imposter ..don't know about "down the road", but there are fans of a few clubs questioning this deal apparently. See the tweets below that a mate just sent me.

Matty Garland‏@MattyGarl

and How the hell can pompey afford buzsaky and barnsley can't? Dodgy dealings going off again #SameOldSameOld
(Doncaster Rovers fan) Blake Peterson‏@blake210

8 I'm still more ****ed off at Pompey getting Buzsaky than us bringing in a guy who I predict will add very little to the side. How Pompey?! (Birmingham City fan) J.A.Davies‏@jakeda

viez Buzsaky turns down Bristol City over wages and then joins Portsmouth... (Bristol City fan) Tom Simmonds‏@TSimmo86 How the fudge have Pimpey signed Buzsaky? #meanttobeskint (Leicester fan)

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:
An anagram

"Bra Be Out"

Clue : Informs the world that he has enormous intellect, more knowledge than anyone else, vast experience and is truly the most modest and humble life form found under the average garden rockery. Has a patholgical obsession with criticising the management with a knee jerk reaction that is faster than Usain Bolt.

A Bore But?

randre wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

How's this................


..............

Imposter ..don't know about "down the road", but there are fans of a few clubs questioning this deal apparently. See the tweets below that a mate just sent me.

Matty Garland‏@MattyGarl


and How the hell can pompey afford buzsaky and barnsley can't? Dodgy dealings going off again #SameOldSameOld
(Doncaster Rovers fan) Blake Peterson‏@blake210


8 I'm still more ****ed off at Pompey getting Buzsaky than us bringing in a guy who I predict will add very little to the side. How Pompey?! (Birmingham City fan) J.A.Davies‏@jakeda


viez Buzsaky turns down Bristol City over wages and then joins Portsmouth... (Bristol City fan) Tom Simmonds‏@TSimmo86 How the fudge have Pimpey signed Buzsaky? #meanttobeskint (Leicester fan)

Blimey, it looks like Portsmouth have not changed their ways at all.

Am I the only one that finds it incredible that a business (i.e. Portsmouth FC) are allowed to continue to keep operating their on going revolving door recruitment policy? How can a business in administration be allowed to compete and ultimately beat well financed and stable sides to bringing in players?

If I were one of the players that had taken a deal to leave the club, like Kitson etc, I would be looking at this situation seriously with a degree of doubt as to what is going on. It is funny how Portsmouth can't pay the tax bill, charities, businesses and players that are owed money, but they are allowed to continue to recruit players on what seems to be good wages. They should be forced to use the development squad. This has turned into a farce.

Before the doomsayers next complain about NC or NA, they should look at Portsmouth and what a ludicrous situation they have been allowed to create. The proof in the pudding is that every other club can see them for what they are as well, it is not just a biased view point from a Saints supporter. Many fans are saying the same thing about them.

Anyway, I'm really proud of the Saints, whatever happens this season. Who agrees?

randre wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

randre wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

randre wrote:

randre wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Yes, I must admit to secretly longing for the day when we changed our manager more frequently than Bill changes his socks. It was brilliant and so successful, do you remember when we had 3 in one year? Halcyon days!

Now we're stupid enough to try and replicate the likes of Man U and Arsenal. I mean, where has sticking with a manager got them? Eh? I ask you!

Our last one has just signed an 8 year deal with that lot in the NE. Rubbish!

Yes and look at David Moyes, been at Everton for ten years, I can't remember the last time they were in a relegation fight.

But hey, I think it's boring keeping faith in a manager and building a stable club. I too long for the days when we can bring in more managers than my local Tesco seem to have.

Oh how I want saggy chops back, he saved us last time!

Before the doom merchants think this is FACT, please note the tiniest bit of sarcasm in both of these posts!!!

Sarcasm, Rande? Mention that word to some of the doom merchants on here, and they'll think you're talking about a North African defender that Nigel failed to sign in the transfer window.

It is criminal that NA and NC failed to pull that signing off. Even my next door neighbours pet hamster could see we needed him in our back four. NA should Hang his head in shame.

Now NC fix it, bring in a manager with defensive sensibilities, I want to see 10 in defence and a 1-0 or 0-0 score line every week. Where's George (my team won't score more than 1) Graham when we need him.

would much rather see a team lose a game trying to win it.than to a see a team lose trying to draw it.

obviously would rather see them win but you get my drift.

Mydrift, wasn't he another player NA failed to sign? Awful goings on...

I don't like us trying to play exciting attacking football. Park that bus saints come on.... What fun!

I think it's a disgrace, only two promotions in two years! Pathetic. I want us to win the premier league, if we don't NA and NC should walk away ashamed...

Talking of ashamed, does anyone know how the skunts are these days?

How's this................


..............

Imposter ..don't know about "down the road", but there are fans of a few clubs questioning this deal apparently. See the tweets below that a mate just sent me.

Matty Garland‏@MattyGarl


and How the hell can pompey afford buzsaky and barnsley can't? Dodgy dealings going off again #SameOldSameOld
(Doncaster Rovers fan) Blake Peterson‏@blake210


8 I'm still more ****ed off at Pompey getting Buzsaky than us bringing in a guy who I predict will add very little to the side. How Pompey?! (Birmingham City fan) J.A.Davies‏@jakeda


viez Buzsaky turns down Bristol City over wages and then joins Portsmouth... (Bristol City fan) Tom Simmonds‏@TSimmo86 How the fudge have Pimpey signed Buzsaky? #meanttobeskint (Leicester fan)

Blimey, it looks like Portsmouth have not changed their ways at all.

Am I the only one that finds it incredible that a business (i.e. Portsmouth FC) are allowed to continue to keep operating their on going revolving door recruitment policy? How can a business in administration be allowed to compete and ultimately beat well financed and stable sides to bringing in players?

If I were one of the players that had taken a deal to leave the club, like Kitson etc, I would be looking at this situation seriously with a degree of doubt as to what is going on. It is funny how Portsmouth can't pay the tax bill, charities, businesses and players that are owed money, but they are allowed to continue to recruit players on what seems to be good wages. They should be forced to use the development squad. This has turned into a farce.

Before the doomsayers next complain about NC or NA, they should look at Portsmouth and what a ludicrous situation they have been allowed to create. The proof in the pudding is that every other club can see them for what they are as well, it is not just a biased view point from a Saints supporter. Many fans are saying the same thing about them.

Anyway, I'm really proud of the Saints, whatever happens this season. Who agrees?

ghk230473 wrote:
If I'm honest I couldn't give a flying f11ck about Pompey, never could. Even when we had our problems I looked around at what we have, new stadium and training facilities and thought there was too much there for any one to let go to waste. Pompey have sweet fa, they even have to train in Southampton.
I see us as a half descent mid table premier league team. To move further would take adding to the attendance to St Marys which at the moment is not warranted due to fan base/ popularity.
We are possibly 5-7 years behind the power 4 as are many clubs, but top 10 or little lower and playing attractive football simular under wgs reign and that's me happy.
So when we aren't quite achieving that there is a little discontent but at the moment I appreciate this season is a learning curve. A few concerns about planning in last 2 transfer windows but getting the right players in at the right price is not easy. Adkins has my backing but is not without faults, as a paying saints fan I'm allowed to air that and will

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm not interested in knocking Pompey, Brighton, Reading,Bournemouth or any other team, within 60 miles of Southampton, I'll leave that to the cretins whose brains can't stretch beyond that.
I'm interested in Saints staying in the Premiership, nothing more nothing less!
I admire NA for what he has done but he has yet to realise that the Premiership is a different world.
No one likes to admit that they are struggling , NA clearly is and his statement that he is not changing styles after conceding 18 in 6 confirms that.
I have always said the NC should back NA and not sack him.
My suggestion to bring in Hoddle as an advisor was a constructive one.
I don't see many other intelligent comments unless of course calling people skate and skunk is considered intelligent, which come to think of it it may be to a cretin.
Sorry to say if NA is serious about not changing tactics and sticks his head in the sand like an ostrich, he is likely to get a huge kick up the *ss!

randre wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If I'm honest I couldn't give a flying f11ck about Pompey, never could. Even when we had our problems I looked around at what we have, new stadium and training facilities and thought there was too much there for any one to let go to waste. Pompey have sweet fa, they even have to train in Southampton.
I see us as a half descent mid table premier league team. To move further would take adding to the attendance to St Marys which at the moment is not warranted due to fan base/ popularity.
We are possibly 5-7 years behind the power 4 as are many clubs, but top 10 or little lower and playing attractive football simular under wgs reign and that's me happy.
So when we aren't quite achieving that there is a little discontent but at the moment I appreciate this season is a learning curve. A few concerns about planning in last 2 transfer windows but getting the right players in at the right price is not easy. Adkins has my backing but is not without faults, as a paying saints fan I'm allowed to air that and will

Fair and reasoned comment ghk.

I must admit, and this is possibly a fault in my makeup as a human being, but I love to see Portsmouth in the mire as their bestest of the best ever fans were so quick to laud it over us when things were going wrong. Let's face it, the less intelligent of them still try to argue that they are a better club even now, after all their rotten history and sad sorrowful current state. They still boast about their proud history, although who was it that said "A history is only proud when the present and the future has solid foundations"... Mmm, that may have been me, but good quote anyway!

Otherwise ghk I do agree with much of your sentiment.

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

lowe esteem wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

angiemill wrote:
Let's face it, Nigel's interviews are (and always have been) crap. He's always "looking at" or "analysing" mistakes that were made without ever actually finding a solution...ie severe defensive frailties. It sticks out like dogs balls and yet everyone seems to just accept it. We are seriously lightweight and just because we've got back to back promotions doesn't mean we're ready for the prem. We can't just keep digesting this crap without some positive action....we're not stupid.

so what do you suggest he does then.

Tumbleweed wafts by...still no reply...darkness falls...the dawn of a new day...only Thomas and Tebourba taking up their usual serial moaning poses...still no reply...............

..............
now think really hard you monotonous whiners...either recognise that something will be done...or say something CONSTRUCTIVE...you will sound like a bit of a skunt if you keep spouting destructive comments.

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm not interested in knocking Pompey, Brighton, Reading,Bournemouth or any other team, within 60 miles of Southampton, I'll leave that to the cretins whose brains can't stretch beyond that.
I'm interested in Saints staying in the Premiership, nothing more nothing less!
I admire NA for what he has done but he has yet to realise that the Premiership is a different world.
No one likes to admit that they are struggling , NA clearly is and his statement that he is not changing styles after conceding 18 in 6 confirms that.
I have always said the NC should back NA and not sack him.
My suggestion to bring in Hoddle as an advisor was a constructive one.
I don't see many other intelligent comments unless of course calling people skate and skunk is considered intelligent, which come to think of it it may be to a cretin.
Sorry to say if NA is serious about not changing tactics and sticks his head in the sand like an ostrich, he is likely to get a huge kick up the *ss!

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm not interested in knocking Pompey, Brighton, Reading,Bournemouth or any other team, within 60 miles of Southampton, I'll leave that to the cretins whose brains can't stretch beyond that.
I'm interested in Saints staying in the Premiership, nothing more nothing less!
I admire NA for what he has done but he has yet to realise that the Premiership is a different world.
No one likes to admit that they are struggling , NA clearly is and his statement that he is not changing styles after conceding 18 in 6 confirms that.
I have always said the NC should back NA and not sack him.
My suggestion to bring in Hoddle as an advisor was a constructive one.
I don't see many other intelligent comments unless of course calling people skate and skunk is considered intelligent, which come to think of it it may be to a cretin.
Sorry to say if NA is serious about not changing tactics and sticks his head in the sand like an ostrich, he is likely to get a huge kick up the *ss!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Walter K wrote:
Pockets of naivety and inability to cope with movement will make a tough season even tougher. If NA is to remain he needs to get some top level experience into his Backroom Staff asap. We can't keep saying "never mind, we'll start our season again next week".

totaly agree.NA and his back staff are out of their depth at this level.guess thats why NC wanted to get someone different in at the end of last season.silly what if question.what if chelsea never beat bayern in the champions league and abramovich sacked Roberto D.

Totally agree too. I mean if he is to remain and it's a big IF, one deserving capitals, oh yes, I repeat IF he is to remain well he needs to get some real experience in to his coaching set up like Merson or Adams or Claridge if we could only pursuade him - what a joy that would be! Proper TOP LEVEL. If only we could have had Roberto D, he wouldn't be out of his depth, he's got at least a bronze survival badge.

Anyway, got to go. See you Saturday, usual place, back of the fratton end. Oh yes!

thomasupton wrote:
You will soon see Tebourba you must stand and clap and not have any opinion other than everything is rosie in the southampton garden. We're probabbly the ones who do actually go to and support the saints.

thomasupton wrote:
You will soon see Tebourba you must stand and clap and not have any opinion other than everything is rosie in the southampton garden. We're probabbly the ones who do actually go to and support the saints.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
You will soon see Tebourba you must stand and clap and not have any opinion other than everything is rosie in the southampton garden. We're probabbly the ones who do actually go to and support the saints.

If you stand and clap you will soon get short shrift, nothing annoys me more than the idiot that stood in front of me and blocked my view of Rickie scoring the first against Villa. What do you mean probably (note spelling), either you do or you don't. Not everything is rosy (note spelling) but moaning about it won't change it.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote: You will soon see Tebourba you must stand and clap and not have any opinion other than everything is rosie in the southampton garden. We're probabbly the ones who do actually go to and support the saints.

If you stand and clap you will soon get short shrift, nothing annoys me more than the idiot that stood in front of me and blocked my view of Rickie scoring the first against Villa. What do you mean probably (note spelling), either you do or you don't. Not everything is rosy (note spelling) but moaning about it won't change it.

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

ghk230473 wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

Slugger you know he's not a skate and in your own words name calling a fellow sainain't saintly. I read the post and he was asked a question of which his reply was 'play puncheon for starters.
So come on and play nicely!

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

what rules ......... the one about being able to express ones opinions ?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

what rules ......... the one about being able to express ones opinions ?

No, I expect he was talking about two p's in opinion? Remember the Spelling and Grammar Police are here to help, our service is free.

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

what rules ......... the one about being able to express ones opinions ?

No, I expect he was talking about two p's in opinion? Remember the Spelling and Grammar Police are here to help, our service is free.

ta very much , my spelling has actually improved in the 3 years i've been posting on here ......... i now know how to spell "their" for example .

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I cannot see anything wrong with the posts by abourbet.
He points out things that are blindingly obvious but also true and claims that he is the only one who has seen the light.
His ability to to talk down is quite phenomenal and should be admired.
He is also a tw4t.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

Good post.

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I cannot see anything wrong with the posts by abourbet.
He points out things that are blindingly obvious but also true and claims that he is the only one who has seen the light.
His ability to to talk down is quite phenomenal and should be admired.
He is also a tw4t.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Our misery is complete Skate won 2 1 in front of a massive 4,769 crowd.

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Our misery is complete Skate won 2 1 in front of a massive 4,769 crowd.

Come on you Dons.

slugger wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I cannot see anything wrong with the posts by abourbet.
He points out things that are blindingly obvious but also true and claims that he is the only one who has seen the light.
His ability to to talk down is quite phenomenal and should be admired.
He is also a tw4t.

an opinion that i share ........ opinions are good and to be respected yeah ?

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I wasn;t telling you how to post. I was just pointing out that what you called a "question" was actually an accusation. I don't care how you post but I reserve the right to point out when you lie.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

Good post.

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

what rules ......... the one about being able to express ones opinions ?

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I wasn;t telling you how to post. I was just pointing out that what you called a "question" was actually an accusation. I don't care how you post but I reserve the right to point out when you lie.

How have I lied ?????????

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

thomasupton wrote:
One thing I do notice is you all post all day, do none of you work, how on earth do you afford to buy tickets? Another thing I notice is you all post about me while I'm out working?????

Alicesdad wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

Just read this and it just oozes balance, reason and sound judgement. A Nobel prize winning post.

If there was an Echo poll for most boring self opinionated smug pessimistic posts then both Tebourba and ThomasUpton would be clear winners. They are indeed entitled to their opinion, as are we all, but they put a slant in their comments that seems to suggest they think their view is from Mount Olympus rather than Mount Mole Hill.

Still - it livens things up a bit now and then.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Even the Captain of the Costa Concordia would understand that if a liner is shipping water at the rate of 18 gallons a second and the crew are baling it out at the rate of 10 gallons a second, unless something changes, the liner will eventually sink.
Why is this simple fact lost on NA and NC?
Bring in Glenn Hoddle now, on a temporary basis, to be NA's mentor and confidant and stop us shipping so much water!
Under Hoddle Saints had the best defensive record ever!

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I presume you're replying to me? Don't remember posting anything about Hoddle as for you short shrifting me I couldn't care less, I'm not on here to make friends, I post my opinions which can be as negative as I wish. If I break the site rules then fair enough. Stop preaching to me about being negative and I wont preach to you or anybody about being positive. I have a right to my opinion whether it is negative or positive. If you don't like it hard luck.

my oppinion is that you're a skate , if you don't like it , hard luck !

I would probably say that does break the rules.

what rules ......... the one about being able to express ones opinions ?

Calling people names is liable, Look back and read if I have called anyone names or anything similar. I only deal with facts.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I don't think asking why Puncheon didn't play is being negative. I think picking up someones petty spelling mistakes is though. Think I remember you from 606 saying the same, as a certain chairman demolished our club. Anyway did someone stand up in front of your sofa and block the telly?

To be fair, you didn't ask why Punchy didn't play.

To do that, you might say "I wonder why Puncheon didn't play". That's how you ask a question.

Saying "Play Puncheon for a start, been outstanding so far, can't understand why he was dropped Saturday." is not asking a question, it's rather closer to making an accusation.

So, coming over all innocent as though you just asked a harmless question rather than forcing a point is more than a little disingenuous.

I'll put it as I want as long as it doesn't break the rules. Who are you to tell me how to post??

I think the problem here is that your points and the way you make them boarder on assassination of the club and all that has been achieved, Both you and Tebourba have the same faults in the way you state with a "matter of fact" attitude with absolutely no balance of support and praise for what has so far been achieved at this great club.

Maybe you take it for granted the monumental achievement that Nigel Adkins, Nicola Cortese and all the other hard working individuals that have made fantastic achievements over the last two years. I see absolutely no benefit in continually criticizing the manager and chairman, I find it obscene that you do so without any balance of positive cogitation.

We all have our moments where we possibly don't agree with certain tactical decisions during a game, but then we are all world class football managers when we are sat / stood in the stands. The truth is none of us know the players as well as the manager, none of us would have achieved two promotions. None of us would have taken over a team who were in relegation trouble to the Premier League in two years. If any person deserves some respect and support, I believe Nigel Adkins does.

Now, according to you anyone who shows a partisan view point means they are a happy clappy fool who blindly follows and believes everything in the garden is rosy, you are wrong. I think we are just a little bit more reasoned in our thinking of how fortunate we have been and find a little gratitude and support is the least we should do.

It's all so easy to sit and support a team who win week in week out, but a real supporter is somebody who will give that little bit extra when things are not going so well. Our club has been good to us, now as a supporter I feel it is my duty to be a small part of a backbone to help our team when things are not so good, in any way possible. It is with this amazing backbone that most Saints fans have that help put in such great foundations for our club, for that I relish the opportunity to support the people who have got us where we are. If that makes me a happy clappy fool, then so be it.

Good post.

A real supporter pays to watch the games, My kids have season tickets, which I pay for as well .

thomasupton wrote:
One thing I do notice is you all post all day, do none of you work, how on earth do you afford to buy tickets? Another thing I notice is you all post about me while I'm out working?????