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Southampton FC 'sack programme sellers' ahead of Fulham match
5:12pm Friday 5th October 2012 in Saints News
Saints have ended years of tradition after axing some of their programme sellers ahead of Sunday's game with Fulham.
The club have written to sellers to tell them that they will not be required with immediate effect.
Some of the sellers have given more than 25 years of service to the club, and are only paid a nominal fee of 6p from each sale.
Most are positioned outside the ground and would also gain free entry to St Mary’s after cashing up, generally some 15-30 minutes into the game.
After just a few home games of the campaign and with only a couple of day’s notice they now find themselves without their job or their ticket.
The club explained in their letter that they were making the changes to increase revenue and for unique customer service but later said on their website it was to alleviate congestion in and around the stadium.
In a letter to the sellers the club wrote: “Following the club’s promotion to the Premier League we are looking at improving every element of the business to ensure we can compete with the best and break new ground in delivering a customer experience which is unique to Southampton Football Club.
“With this in mind, a review of the match day operation has been undertaken and the decision has been made to change the way we sell match day programmes to enable us to increase revenue and deliver this service in a different and unique way.
“However, unfortunately this does mean we no longer require the services of our current programme sellers. This change will come into immediate effect and therefore you will not be required for the Fulham game.
“We appreciate your loyalty and contribution over the course of your time with the club and we would like to highlight this change was not an easy decision but a necessary change for the development of the operation going forward.”
Programmes will now be sold from ten fixed positions around the outside of St Mary’s, in the megastore and at stadium catering outlets, as well as roaming sellers.
The club explained on their official website: “Saints are always striving to improve your matchday experience, and the redeployment of our sellers is an essential part of making it an easier and quicker transaction to alleviate congestion both in and around the stadium.”
The club failed to respond to the Daily Echo’s request for a comment.
Comments(253)
tugboat
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5:24pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Always something to say
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5:41pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche
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5:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
tugboat
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5:52pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:I read your post with genuine interest,please explain what you mean by "I have been dumped without even given the chance to buy a ticket " ?
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
And lastly were you actually "employed" by SFC.
Sorry if this appears as a stupid question,but Im guessing that if you were a full time employee you would have a serious grievance that I would sympathise with.
Abbey Saint
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6:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
It just makes us an unnecessarily easy target for outsiders
Rockhopper
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6:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Can't see any reason other than a relatively small saving to the club on wages.
If that's the case I would have preferred to see savings made by a reduction in the number of stewards employed on a match day.
From observations they appear well over-staffed both inside and outside the stadium, while of course watching the match for free.
More importantly unlike the programme sellers they are not generating an income for the club.
Very disappointing how these people have been treated by SFC.
SaintsBTGOG
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6:03pm Fri 5 Oct 12
tugboat wrote:"Cant see the problem" ? LOL
Cant see the problem to be honest,we have to become more efficient at generating revenue for this club to be financially viable.No different from when the echo stopped selling copies in the high street,no public outcry then was there .Remember that guy with no teeth shouting out the headlines outside the echo office at the bargate-times move on. All I want is a clean sheet against fulham,NC has the clubs best interest at heart.
NC has 'his' interests at heart as his expenses show.
GHamilton
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6:13pm Fri 5 Oct 12
It seems NC is not an easy person to get on with; ruthless..... being an understatement. So far we've had problems with new papers, (Sun), problems with building contractors, problems with programme vendors...still, like he guy says, keep a clean sheet on Sunday, and get 3 points..do i realy give a ****
legod7
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6:15pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Rockhopper wrote:I believe you have to have a certain percentage of stewards in comparison to your attendance.
Seems a strange decision and surely the programme sellers could be relocated to other tasks around the stadium. Can't see any reason other than a relatively small saving to the club on wages. If that's the case I would have preferred to see savings made by a reduction in the number of stewards employed on a match day. From observations they appear well over-staffed both inside and outside the stadium, while of course watching the match for free. More importantly unlike the programme sellers they are not generating an income for the club. Very disappointing how these people have been treated by SFC.
All the club are doing is keeing the programme sellers outside the ground but reducing the number inside. There were never any queues so they must have been too many. Also I think it is a good idea to buy your programme when you buy your pint before the game
andysaints007
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6:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Maine Lobster
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6:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Always something to say wrote:Quite agree. Some of the staff in the catering outlets are dreadfully slow and the queues, especially at half time, are ridiculous. Adding programme sales will make things even worse and will lose the club more revenue as people just wont bother. A poor decision by the club. They would have been better off hiring more staff for the food outlets and ensure they are trained. A more efficient serving process that doesn't run out of everything would generate far more in revenue than they will penny pinch by sacking the programme sellers.
Can't really see how this is going to be better selling programs from he stadium shop and food outlets as conjestion and waiting times in each is shocking.
I wonder which bright spark in the commercial department came up with this disaster?
Big Deuche
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6:27pm Fri 5 Oct 12
tugboat wrote:In the week we received a text telling us the time we were needed for the Fulham game on Sunday. Then on Thursday the letter in the article above arrived. Of course the timing of this has not allowed us the chance to buy a season ticket and none were offered to us. We now have to hope that we can buy tickets for the individual games. No I was not full time but have been doing much for the club over the years as a volunteer or on a part time basis.
Big Deuche wrote:I read your post with genuine interest,please explain what you mean by "I have been dumped without even given the chance to buy a ticket " ?
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
And lastly were you actually "employed" by SFC.
Sorry if this appears as a stupid question,but Im guessing that if you were a full time employee you would have a serious grievance that I would sympathise with.
tugboat
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6:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Correct,I cant see the problem,and yep I believe Nicola Cortese has the interests of the club at heart.
tugboat wrote:"Cant see the problem" ? LOL
Cant see the problem to be honest,we have to become more efficient at generating revenue for this club to be financially viable.No different from when the echo stopped selling copies in the high street,no public outcry then was there .Remember that guy with no teeth shouting out the headlines outside the echo office at the bargate-times move on. All I want is a clean sheet against fulham,NC has the clubs best interest at heart.
NC has 'his' interests at heart as his expenses show.
Look ,perhaps you are better informed than me ,many are,and I respectfully ask you to enlighten me,I am led to believe (?) that the number of program sellers has just been reduced. Is this correct ?
Why is this any different than a normal business decision,or is it because it has been made by Nicola Cortese who you obviously dislike.
And please enlighten me as to when and how Niocola Cortese has let this club down,be it in either in backing the manager financially or in what we have achieved in the last two seasons.
I await your reply and not in a patronising way.
And yep I dearly want a clean sheet against fulham.
tugboat
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6:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:Thanks for the reply fella,you have my sympathy,thanks for shedding some light,much appreciated.Hope you still get to see some games,your obviously dedicated and a true saint-best of luck.
tugboat wrote:In the week we received a text telling us the time we were needed for the Fulham game on Sunday. Then on Thursday the letter in the article above arrived. Of course the timing of this has not allowed us the chance to buy a season ticket and none were offered to us. We now have to hope that we can buy tickets for the individual games. No I was not full time but have been doing much for the club over the years as a volunteer or on a part time basis.
Big Deuche wrote:I read your post with genuine interest,please explain what you mean by "I have been dumped without even given the chance to buy a ticket " ?
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
And lastly were you actually "employed" by SFC.
Sorry if this appears as a stupid question,but Im guessing that if you were a full time employee you would have a serious grievance that I would sympathise with.
Nice to get the facts-thanks.
Saintade
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6:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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6:48pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint
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6:50pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
slugger
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6:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Optimist
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6:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Plus what was said above.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:00pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Indeed. However some would argue that letting them know a couple of weeks ago or saying Fulham is the last game for them would be the human way to handle it.
i suspect that nobody has been "axed" by nicola at all , hitting people with axes has been illegal for some time now ............ i suggest that nicola has just let them go as they are surplus to requirements .
slugger
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7:04pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:agreed ........as much notice as possible should be given .
slugger wrote:Indeed. However some would argue that letting them know a couple of weeks ago or saying Fulham is the last game for them would be the human way to handle it.
i suspect that nobody has been "axed" by nicola at all , hitting people with axes has been illegal for some time now ............ i suggest that nicola has just let them go as they are surplus to requirements .
MGRA
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7:05pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton
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7:07pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:Really sorry to hear your plight. We never have any problems or queues getting our program. Certainly not going to bother queuing inside to buy one now. They going to close the burger bars outside for causing congestion? I don't think so.
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
legod7
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7:07pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Saintade wrote:Where are they halting work at Stoneham ? I know there is a pause in the rebuilding work at Staplewood
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
slugger
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7:10pm Fri 5 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:i agree , on the odd occasion that i buy a program i do so because it's easy , i wont queue for 10 mins to buy one that's for sure !
I suggest that Nicola will sell a lot less programmes this weekend. Footy fans are creatures of habit.
Velleity
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7:14pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham
> Staplewood, not Stoneham. And what's "suspect" about it?
and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...
> Saving money that you judge to be being wasted is pretty standard business practice.
These are classic signs of a moratorium on spending.
> What are?
I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down.
> On what basis do you think we've overspent? If they weren't in control of outgoings (overspending) they wouldn't be addressing this. You can't have it both ways. The ground had been full to within 1,000 seats of capacity for the two games so far at St Mary's. Do you think they were planning on getting 36,000 into the 32,000 seats or something?
And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought
> You've obviously not been to a game this season.
So, all in all an odd attack.
Velleity
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7:15pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Agreed - I was told years ago, make business decisions ruthlessly, carry them out compassionately.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:agreed ........as much notice as possible should be given .
slugger wrote:Indeed. However some would argue that letting them know a couple of weeks ago or saying Fulham is the last game for them would be the human way to handle it.
i suspect that nobody has been "axed" by nicola at all , hitting people with axes has been illegal for some time now ............ i suggest that nicola has just let them go as they are surplus to requirements .
Ms Mahoney
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7:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche
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7:24pm Fri 5 Oct 12
tugboat wrote:In the week we received a text telling us the time we were needed for the Fulham game on Sunday. Then on Thursday the letter in the article above arrived. Of course the timing of this has not allowed us the chance to buy a season ticket and none were offered to us. We now have to hope that we can buy tickets for the individual games. No I was not full time but have been doing much for the club over the years as a volunteer or on a part time basis.
Big Deuche wrote:I read your post with genuine interest,please explain what you mean by "I have been dumped without even given the chance to buy a ticket " ?
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
And lastly were you actually "employed" by SFC.
Sorry if this appears as a stupid question,but Im guessing that if you were a full time employee you would have a serious grievance that I would sympathise with.
slugger
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7:25pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Ms Mahoney wrote:little wonder we're going bust ! lol
Hang on a minute Big Deuche says he would sell 800 programmes per game and earn 6p per programme thats £48 plus free entry to the game worth say £30. So nearly £80 for a couple of hours! Not bad work if you can get it.
WobblyCat
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7:27pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
King o' the Kingsland
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7:34pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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7:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:49pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:I like that description.
slugger wrote:Agreed - I was told years ago, make business decisions ruthlessly, carry them out compassionately.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:agreed ........as much notice as possible should be given .
slugger wrote:Indeed. However some would argue that letting them know a couple of weeks ago or saying Fulham is the last game for them would be the human way to handle it.
i suspect that nobody has been "axed" by nicola at all , hitting people with axes has been illegal for some time now ............ i suggest that nicola has just let them go as they are surplus to requirements .
It sounds to me that the decision was made and then implemented instantly - when in reality after all these years a game or twos notice wouldn't have done any harm.
I had a conversation with the club this week sorting out the Wet Spam tickets for me, Bill and Slugger. I wanted the points allocated to all of us not just me (cos I'm nice) and do you know the points system isn't up and running yet.
I think many of the clubs business ideas are good but they introduce them before testing or training which in any business always brings the same results - chaos.
Mind you at the Man U game I used the new corporate ordering system and when I went to pay for 8 pints, 8 cokes and 4 cheese burgers and chips I was charged £10.50 so it's not all bad!
OSPREYSAINT
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7:54pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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7:54pm Fri 5 Oct 12
bazza
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7:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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7:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:aimed at seedhouse btw .
and are they sorted ? ......... oh yeah , and you got any jobs going ?
Abbey Saint
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7:56pm Fri 5 Oct 12
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
slugger
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7:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
Big Deuche
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8:03pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It was all the sellers and the backroom staff.
It does say some of the sellers, not all I wonder how they chose which ones to dismiss?
Big Deuche
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8:03pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It was all the sellers and the backroom staff.
It does say some of the sellers, not all I wonder how they chose which ones to dismiss?
thomasupton
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8:07pm Fri 5 Oct 12
bazza wrote:I think it's disgusting and tight. Things must be bad to be worried about a few quid for the program sellers.
25 years selling to get notice of 3 days.Good work Saints,No more progams for me.Reading some of these posts on here must all work for NC.
xgirlx
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8:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Optimist wrote:do you not know how hard it is for them people work and try and get through the very big queue they get at half time they try there best to get through the queue as quick as they can but have you tried doing there job as it can be very hard to do so
If you want to improve my customer experience then don't make me wait 15 minutes in a queue at half time for a beer. So slow its unbelievable.
Plus what was said above.
Abbey Saint
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8:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:I don't know - but if no shortfall, why these actions? There is a recession and its reasonable to assume that Saints aren't immune to it. This is not an argument about what Saints are doing, but how they're do
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
shane pad
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8:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
shane pad
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8:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint
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8:13pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint wrote:Sorry - old Git syndrome - comment should finish "how they're doing it"
slugger wrote:I don't know - but if no shortfall, why these actions? There is a recession and its reasonable to assume that Saints aren't immune to it. This is not an argument about what Saints are doing, but how they're do
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:15pm Fri 5 Oct 12
City Saint
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8:20pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Personally I think this is kind of sad. I have never had any wait at all fr programs, beyond a few punters maybe. And. For he was always pleased to see them working the ground during the tough years in league one.
Let's hope cortese doesn't tempt the karma police onetime too many.
How hard would it have been to keep the system in place this season, and signal ai change for next season if needed?
OSPREYSAINT
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8:20pm Fri 5 Oct 12
shane pad wrote:Can I offer my sympathy for what has happened and my thanks to you and all the others for their sterling service over many years, just for being there when I needed you. If the Club appear not have appreciated your services, the fans certainly did.
I'm a seller and lost my job, its a joke they could have done this a begin of season so we could have got a ticket. We are all fans, my dad sells over 1000 per game at the bridge, there is no way a inexperience burger guy will do this, and all this to save about £500 if they can sell our seats - that's about 170 programs I'm sure they will sell loads less moving forward
thomasupton
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8:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
NextPM
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8:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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8:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint wrote:i repeat (sort of) what i said above ........ i refuse to belive that nicola is doing this because of some "shortfall" .......... badly handled i accept ....... just his way i guess .
Abbey Saint wrote:Sorry - old Git syndrome - comment should finish "how they're doing it"
slugger wrote:I don't know - but if no shortfall, why these actions? There is a recession and its reasonable to assume that Saints aren't immune to it. This is not an argument about what Saints are doing, but how they're do
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
sarfhamton
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8:23pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Its my ritual and a family tradition, just like buying vegetable samosa from G's down the road.
I won't buy another one out of respect.
Polomintno1
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8:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12
tugboat wrote:frist let me say sorry you lost your little job, but you was getting in to see saints for 36years with out paying, and only missed 5 games in that time, like me when me and my wife was and still is S.T.Hs I lost my job and we missed a hole session. So time must go on.
Big Deuche wrote:I read your post with genuine interest,please explain what you mean by "I have been dumped without even given the chance to buy a ticket " ?
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
And lastly were you actually "employed" by SFC.
Sorry if this appears as a stupid question,but Im guessing that if you were a full time employee you would have a serious grievance that I would sympathise with.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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8:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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8:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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8:44pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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8:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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8:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
MGRA
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8:47pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:this has nothing to do with revenue agreed and imo has nothing to do with NC, I can not see him wasting valuable time discussing the pros-and-cons of programme selling, this smells of some half-wit left in charge of "improving things". Well its a classic mistake. Most football fans attending games do not seek out programmes, they want one where they know they can find it and before they go into the ground, mostly.
Abbey Saint wrote:i repeat (sort of) what i said above ........ i refuse to belive that nicola is doing this because of some "shortfall" .......... badly handled i accept ....... just his way i guess .
Abbey Saint wrote:Sorry - old Git syndrome - comment should finish "how they're doing it"
slugger wrote:I don't know - but if no shortfall, why these actions? There is a recession and its reasonable to assume that Saints aren't immune to it. This is not an argument about what Saints are doing, but how they're do
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
slugger
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8:48pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:lol
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
OSPREYSAINT
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8:50pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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8:51pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Yes I would, the atmosphere is amazing.
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
slugger
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8:53pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:ask any pompey fan .
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Yes I would, the atmosphere is amazing.
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
thomasupton
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8:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
OSPREYSAINT
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8:56pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I think you will find that the Programme Price isn't set by the Club, probably by the Premier League, anyone know for sure to save me researching it?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Well, I am afraid you are following the wrong club, you conveniently forget what has happened recently, we are Premier League, times have changed, the Club has to change too, not always for the better I agree, but it cannot stand still just because it is traditional, it has to keep up with the rest.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Yes I would, the atmosphere is amazing.
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
Confucious
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9:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
That said, if the club is watching the pennies, it's better than being one of those clubs which isn't. Nicola is setting it up as a business and not a very expensive toy.
Most of us, most of the time, like to think that when all is said and done, the meek shall inherit the earth. Nicola is the type who also secures the mineral rights.
slugger
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9:03pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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9:06pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I think most fans would like to see the terraces back, but with health and safety and what happened at Hillsborough can't ever see that happening. I agree things move forward but still think this could have been handled differently.
thomasupton wrote:Well, I am afraid you are following the wrong club, you conveniently forget what has happened recently, we are Premier League, times have changed, the Club has to change too, not always for the better I agree, but it cannot stand still just because it is traditional, it has to keep up with the rest.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Yes I would, the atmosphere is amazing.
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
thomasupton
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9:07pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
slugger
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9:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:i read too many posts on here .
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
Landdo
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9:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
City Saint
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9:20pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Confucious wrote:I'm surprised that this is seen at all as a money-saving thing (not that I have a clue why this was done at all of course).
There are probably good reasons for the change but it would have been helpful if they had been explained and reasonable notice given.
That said, if the club is watching the pennies, it's better than being one of those clubs which isn't. Nicola is setting it up as a business and not a very expensive toy.
Most of us, most of the time, like to think that when all is said and done, the meek shall inherit the earth. Nicola is the type who also secures the mineral rights.
If the program sellers are too costly in the Prem, how on earth could we afford them before Sky's millions rolled through town?
Strange behaviour from The Don. His behaviour suggests an angry man.
I wouldn't want to be the first person to see him in the hallway if we lose to Fulham.
"Off with their heads!"
OSPREYSAINT
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9:22pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:24pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Nit wit we all think that.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I think most fans would like to see the terraces back, but with health and safety and what happened at Hillsborough can't ever see that happening. I agree things move forward but still think this could have been handled differently.
thomasupton wrote:Well, I am afraid you are following the wrong club, you conveniently forget what has happened recently, we are Premier League, times have changed, the Club has to change too, not always for the better I agree, but it cannot stand still just because it is traditional, it has to keep up with the rest.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Yes I would, the atmosphere is amazing.
thomasupton wrote:I see you would prefer us to be back in Division One, perhaps at The Dell, in the open terrace, playing Poopey?
I don't care if it's 4th division, These guys were given 3 days notice. I'd rather buy a program from them than worry about how it's presented. Watch the price go up now as well.
thomasupton
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9:25pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Well go back to the Pompey board where I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms
thomasupton wrote:i read too many posts on here .
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
TEBOURBA
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9:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
OSPREYSAINT
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9:27pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:No problem, he just doesn't like you or your posts.
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
OSPREYSAINT
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9:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Darn it Who woke you up?
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
WobblyCat
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9:32pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Abbey Saint wrote:You're perfectly entitled to your view, though you've lost me. Suggestions that we lay of casual staff and abandon a major project because of cash is surely to suggest serious cash problems no? And you completely agree with someone who claims income is 'way down' though you don't know that that is the case. We have recently spent £10 mill plus on one player, six games later we're broke!
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
thomasupton
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9:34pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I don't like either of you. Anyone who puts getting their program wet before someones job is never a true soton fan.
thomasupton wrote:No problem, he just doesn't like you or your posts.
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
Baddesley Bill
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9:34pm Fri 5 Oct 12
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Well, I am mortified, you are the first person ever to say that, (no doubt many have thought it), anyone got that Samaritan Number again? 1 0 to Slug I think.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I don't like either of you. Anyone who puts getting their program wet before someones job is never a true soton fan.
thomasupton wrote:No problem, he just doesn't like you or your posts.
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
thomasupton
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9:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
OSPREYSAINT
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9:41pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
skin2000
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9:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:I didn't realize that fans still brought programmes, how much do they cost now?If you get paid 6p a sale and you sale 1000, that makes you £60. Plus your ticket, that's worth about £40. That makes about £100 for a couple of hours work. No wonder the sellers are unhappy. I am surprised Lowe missed this.
This year I should be celebrating 50 years of supporting my beloved Saints. In that time I have missed only 5 home games. I have worked for the club since 1976, first selling lottery tickets and doing collection rounds, then as a programme seller. I would first like to answer the claim that the club need to sell more programmes. In the many years I have been a programme seller I have sold out at around 95% of the games. At this seasons games we sold out around 30 minutes before kick off. That is just at our busiest time when we can sell up to 800 programmes in games against top clubs. So if the club needed to sell more programmes then the person ordering them should have listened to those who tried to tell him.
As for the queues, we rarely had a large queue and I think anyone going to the ground would not be fooled by this poor claim. Sadly after 36 years of working for this club I have been dumped without even being given the chance to buy a ticket.
thomasupton
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9:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
Velleity
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9:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Go home to Portsmouth - you're just on here to wind Saints fans up.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
OSPREYSAINT
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9:44pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:At least I am not obsessed with them, they will get over it.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
MGRA
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9:45pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Programme selling is nothing about "business" in the case of football, its part of the historic fabric. Football needs peripheral aspects and some social "glue" to keep fans loving going to football for reasons other than purely making a logical consumer decision. If logic starts to creep into football, then attendances will collapse overnight.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
Tirau Dan
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9:45pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Next campaign for better bogs with turbo extractor fans
Velleity
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9:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
TEBOURBA
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9:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:47pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:48pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:You can't handle the truth, admit it.
Sadly the truth often hurts!
thomasupton
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9:54pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
would i
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9:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:He is a prized Pr**k, like many of the others on this site.
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?OSPREYSAINT wrote: I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
Yeah, you know the ones i'm talking about..
Velleity
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9:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:What would you know about the truth? You're the one who gets his facts wrong much of the time, not us.
Sadly the truth often hurts!
Anyway, run off home down the M27 and take your fake anger with you.
thomasupton
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9:56pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
MGRA
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9:57pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:what is wrong with some people..... NC is involved with trying to buy/sell multi-million pounds players.... what rational bone in your body thinks he can be bothered with match-day programme matters !?!? get real, this is the work of some numpty, probably an "expert" on marketing or something. But if you seriously think Nicola has the time to debate programme selling stategy then I assume you have soft toys in abundance to play with at home..
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
Velleity
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9:58pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Where did I find anything positive in people losing their jobs? Find me the post and I'll meet you on Sunday and give you £100.
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
thomasupton
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9:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Good old Velleity, who let you out of your armchair? At least you'll be back in there Sunday at 1
TEBOURBA wrote:What would you know about the truth? You're the one who gets his facts wrong much of the time, not us.
Sadly the truth often hurts!
Anyway, run off home down the M27 and take your fake anger with you.
saintshorse101
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9:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
what i am surprised about is that the boorer hasnt been on here yet giving large and saying how NA/NC are out of their depth, and if we keep on at this rate we will be down by december, what needs to happen is we need to get a chief exec in that has prem experience to aid NC! maybe sacha gaydamak or sulaiman al fahim!
OSPREYSAINT
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10:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Hey Velleity I think you are on his dislike list too, that makes three of us.
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
St Retford
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10:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity
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10:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:WOW - I ALMOST MISSED IT:
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
Lookee what we have here.
Thomasupton responds to a post made by me to Tebourba - look at it for ten seconds and think and it's clear they they are the same bloke with two logons. I speak to Tebourba and Thomasupton responds.
I KNEW IT! Long suspected, now proven. They ALWAYS get caught out.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:02pm Fri 5 Oct 12
saintshorse101 wrote:Too late he is, scroll back for his pearls of wisdom, but don't feed the troll.
sorry to the guys who have gone but times move on im afraid.
what i am surprised about is that the boorer hasnt been on here yet giving large and saying how NA/NC are out of their depth, and if we keep on at this rate we will be down by december, what needs to happen is we need to get a chief exec in that has prem experience to aid NC! maybe sacha gaydamak or sulaiman al fahim!
OSPREYSAINT
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10:04pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Ouch that hurt.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
bazza
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10:07pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton
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10:09pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:LOL, now we are clutching at straws. Get back in your chair, you wouldn't know what a match day program is anyway.
thomasupton wrote:WOW - I ALMOST MISSED IT:
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
Lookee what we have here.
Thomasupton responds to a post made by me to Tebourba - look at it for ten seconds and think and it's clear they they are the same bloke with two logons. I speak to Tebourba and Thomasupton responds.
I KNEW IT! Long suspected, now proven. They ALWAYS get caught out.
St Retford
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10:10pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Boof! I believe that is what the youth call being 'pwned'.
thomasupton wrote:WOW - I ALMOST MISSED IT:
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
Lookee what we have here.
Thomasupton responds to a post made by me to Tebourba - look at it for ten seconds and think and it's clear they they are the same bloke with two logons. I speak to Tebourba and Thomasupton responds.
I KNEW IT! Long suspected, now proven. They ALWAYS get caught out.
Now do be a love, Upton, and do one.
thomasupton
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10:10pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Not as much as losing your job after 25 years though.
thomasupton wrote:Ouch that hurt.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:10pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:OK wise guy and man of action, what are we going to do to put right the wrongs, I don't see a post from you thanking the guys for standing in the rain selling us the Programmes, I don't see any ideas forthcoming about how to go about reversing the dirty deed, just what do you want us to do about, I elect you as the leader of the rebel cause, Over to you, tell us what we must do, any ideas?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
10:12pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I have just lost my job after 48 years and 4 months, I am not complaining, I was just getting too old for it.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Not as much as losing your job after 25 years though.
thomasupton wrote:Ouch that hurt.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
thomasupton
says...
10:14pm Fri 5 Oct 12
bazza wrote:Hi bazza good to have a real supporter back. It is such a shame after all those years.
Some heartless comments on here tonight.Wot the hell is some peoples problem on here.3 days notice after working 25 years for a few quid,When the chairman earns half a million.Yeah sign of the times.And of course all for the better.Its why i stopped commenting on here.
slugger
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10:14pm Fri 5 Oct 12
hedge end bob
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10:15pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:His wife ,, she needs a rest from his constant I TOLD YOU SO, what a tw@t . I dont often rise to his sort, but i will feel better when his crap team the SKUNTS get beat tomorrow .
TEBOURBA wrote:Darn it Who woke you up?
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
thomasupton
says...
10:15pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Ummmmmm, give them their jobs back??
thomasupton wrote:OK wise guy and man of action, what are we going to do to put right the wrongs, I don't see a post from you thanking the guys for standing in the rain selling us the Programmes, I don't see any ideas forthcoming about how to go about reversing the dirty deed, just what do you want us to do about, I elect you as the leader of the rebel cause, Over to you, tell us what we must do, any ideas?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
bazza wrote:No you haven't. We are mostly upset about it, but it is progress I guess, we are all in agreement, I think, that it has been mishandled, I doubt it has come from the top of the ladder, it is probably someone else in the organization charged with improving things, and doesn't see it how the rest of us do.
Some heartless comments on here tonight.Wot the hell is some peoples problem on here.3 days notice after working 25 years for a few quid,When the chairman earns half a million.Yeah sign of the times.And of course all for the better.Its why i stopped commenting on here.
thomasupton
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10:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Folkestone Saint
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10:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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10:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Just like that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Ummmmmm, give them their jobs back??
thomasupton wrote:OK wise guy and man of action, what are we going to do to put right the wrongs, I don't see a post from you thanking the guys for standing in the rain selling us the Programmes, I don't see any ideas forthcoming about how to go about reversing the dirty deed, just what do you want us to do about, I elect you as the leader of the rebel cause, Over to you, tell us what we must do, any ideas?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You're the one with "soiled hands" making jest at peoples misfortune.
thomasupton wrote:Well at £3-00 a time I don't want soiled goods thank you very much.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well I'm glad you get joy from sarcasm, at the cost of peoples jobs.
Baddesley Bill wrote:They are still selling the Programmes, just using a different methods, don't know how it makes any financial difference. I am not sure about buying them from a catering stall, I don't like them wet, I would absolutely hate them to be greasy.
If selling programmes creates no revenue...why do it? Sad, but that's the harsh reality of business.
On a positive slant..the pie sellers at SMS have my full financial support.
saintshorse101
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10:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:it must be some sort of block i have developed that i dont see the drivel he posts now (thank god), has he said it yet though? has he said NC is out of his depth yet, he must have!
saintshorse101 wrote: sorry to the guys who have gone but times move on im afraid. what i am surprised about is that the boorer hasnt been on here yet giving large and saying how NA/NC are out of their depth, and if we keep on at this rate we will be down by december, what needs to happen is we need to get a chief exec in that has prem experience to aid NC! maybe sacha gaydamak or sulaiman al fahim!Too late he is, scroll back for his pearls of wisdom, but don't feed the troll.
next you will be telling me that thomasuphimself the skate who got caught on here last night has been telling us that NC is the devil and it would never have happend under bates or big mac!
Baddesley Bill
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10:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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10:23pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:You have never heard of the description "paid volunteer"?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
TheJoiners
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10:25pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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10:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
thomasupton
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10:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:What "club" would that be arm chair Bill?
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
OSPREYSAINT
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10:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12
saintshorse101 wrote:lol yup big time. I have been teasing but I am getting bored with it as I guess is everyone else.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:it must be some sort of block i have developed that i dont see the drivel he posts now (thank god), has he said it yet though? has he said NC is out of his depth yet, he must have!
saintshorse101 wrote: sorry to the guys who have gone but times move on im afraid. what i am surprised about is that the boorer hasnt been on here yet giving large and saying how NA/NC are out of their depth, and if we keep on at this rate we will be down by december, what needs to happen is we need to get a chief exec in that has prem experience to aid NC! maybe sacha gaydamak or sulaiman al fahim!Too late he is, scroll back for his pearls of wisdom, but don't feed the troll.
next you will be telling me that thomasuphimself the skate who got caught on here last night has been telling us that NC is the devil and it would never have happend under bates or big mac!
thomasupton
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10:29pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
OSPREYSAINT
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10:29pm Fri 5 Oct 12
TheJoiners wrote:Match of The Day on Saturdays
Whats a Football Programme?
OSPREYSAINT
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10:30pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
slugger
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10:30pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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10:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Can we be sure he has a "club", maybe just a WUM on here to stir us up, which I must admit he is doing quite well at tonight, but only because we are daft enough to respond!
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
St Retford
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10:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
thomasupton
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10:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Baddesley Bill
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10:35pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:The one I will be going to watch on Sunday of course. Get a grip.... skunt.
Baddesley Bill wrote:What "club" would that be arm chair Bill?
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
OSPREYSAINT
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10:36pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Sorry Bill your name has gone on the list, who is next?
Baddesley Bill wrote:What "club" would that be arm chair Bill?
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
slugger
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10:37pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:me me ...... please let it be me .
thomasupton wrote:Sorry Bill your name has gone on the list, who is next?
Baddesley Bill wrote:What "club" would that be arm chair Bill?
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
OSPREYSAINT
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10:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:That is about as low as you can get, take that back. I have never been so insulted in my 65 years of Saints supporting.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
OSPREYSAINT
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10:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:You squire were Number One!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:me me ...... please let it be me .
thomasupton wrote:Sorry Bill your name has gone on the list, who is next?
Baddesley Bill wrote:What "club" would that be arm chair Bill?
PoutingThomas...can we discuss how your club has added anything to the community?... (this should be worth a giggle).
thomasupton
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10:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12
St Retford wrote:Lost a best friend to cancer last year and my Dad is recovering from bladder cancer so I would say very high.
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Folkestone Saint
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10:40pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Could you please use your correct log-in,just to remind you it is " Issac Hunt" now go and look in a mirror and say your name out-load to yourself, or better still shout it out n a pcked pub
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Velleity
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10:41pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Ah, the sound of silence... so informative.
thomasupton wrote:Where did I find anything positive in people losing their jobs? Find me the post and I'll meet you on Sunday and give you £100.
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
I posted above that I think it's been done badly. No apology required for your false accusation, honestly.
Teborebore/Thomasupt
on, run along now. Your repeated badmouthing of every single thing OUR club does is becoming tedious. Wouldn't you be better off trying to save YOUR club from the mire it's in by offering your time (and money) to the PST? Wasting your time on here is pointless. (Having two sign ons and furiously agreeing with yourself is even more pitiful, but let's leave that for now.).
Baddesley Bill
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10:41pm Fri 5 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Osprey...you responded! ;O)
thomasupton wrote:That is about as low as you can get, take that back. I have never been so insulted in my 65 years of Saints supporting.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
saintand266
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10:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
saintand266
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10:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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10:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:very sad ........ so you agree that pompey's actions are odious ?
St Retford wrote:Lost a best friend to cancer last year and my Dad is recovering from bladder cancer so I would say very high.
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Velleity
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10:44pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:In which case, you should be ashamed of your club stealing money from cancer charities. Do you have no shame? Stop wasting time on here and go and do something about it. Tell Chanrai, tell the PST, but at the very least get someone at your club to do something about it rather than coming on here and trying to wind people up.
St Retford wrote:Lost a best friend to cancer last year and my Dad is recovering from bladder cancer so I would say very high.
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
St Retford
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10:44pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Precisely. So why not shut it with the false, sanctimonious outrage on this issue?
St Retford wrote:Lost a best friend to cancer last year and my Dad is recovering from bladder cancer so I would say very high.
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
thomasupton
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10:45pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Yes I apologize for bad mouthing my club for sacking program sellers after 25 years service and giving them 3 days notice, what was I thinking of.
Velleity wrote:Ah, the sound of silence... so informative.
thomasupton wrote:Where did I find anything positive in people losing their jobs? Find me the post and I'll meet you on Sunday and give you £100.
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
I posted above that I think it's been done badly. No apology required for your false accusation, honestly.
Teborebore/Thomasupt
on, run along now. Your repeated badmouthing of every single thing OUR club does is becoming tedious. Wouldn't you be better off trying to save YOUR club from the mire it's in by offering your time (and money) to the PST? Wasting your time on here is pointless. (Having two sign ons and furiously agreeing with yourself is even more pitiful, but let's leave that for now.).
Velleity
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10:47pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Has your club sacked the programme sellers as well as ours? What a coincidence. Just another bunch of innocents in the firing line, then.
Velleity wrote:Yes I apologize for bad mouthing my club for sacking program sellers after 25 years service and giving them 3 days notice, what was I thinking of.
Velleity wrote:Ah, the sound of silence... so informative.
thomasupton wrote:Where did I find anything positive in people losing their jobs? Find me the post and I'll meet you on Sunday and give you £100.
Velleity wrote:I call the "positive" posters "you". People like you for instance, who find things positive in people losing their jobs.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:He wouldn't know, he's not from Southampton.
thomasupton wrote:You could show some respect by spelling his christian name correctly for a start, it's Markus.
TEBOURBA wrote:I can imagine Marcus would be too.
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
He knows so little about us that he thinks NA has ten months left on his contract (rather than the near three years he really has). He does nothing but attack Saints. He calls Saints fans "you" when he's not being careful.
The guy's a WUM from Portsmouth.
I posted above that I think it's been done badly. No apology required for your false accusation, honestly.
Teborebore/Thomasupt
on, run along now. Your repeated badmouthing of every single thing OUR club does is becoming tedious. Wouldn't you be better off trying to save YOUR club from the mire it's in by offering your time (and money) to the PST? Wasting your time on here is pointless. (Having two sign ons and furiously agreeing with yourself is even more pitiful, but let's leave that for now.).
OSPREYSAINT
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10:48pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
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10:48pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill
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10:49pm Fri 5 Oct 12
St Retford wrote:that
thomasupton wrote:Precisely. So why not shut it with the false, sanctimonious outrage on this issue?
St Retford wrote:Lost a best friend to cancer last year and my Dad is recovering from bladder cancer so I would say very high.
thomasupton wrote:I wonder if those cancer charities minded not being paid? Obviously, they're not as important as some bloke earning a bit of pocket money and a free ticket, but I'd be interested to know where your highly tuned moral compass points on this one.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Velleity
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10:52pm Fri 5 Oct 12
We've discovered that Teborebore and Thomasupem are one and the same person and that he/they are WUMs from Portsmouth.
Nice result for a single thread.
saintshorse101
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10:52pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:thomas you really really are a fool arent you, you got found out last night as to not being a saint! give it a rest wont you. calm down for a bit and look at what you have posted and what has been responded to it, no one has been sacked or let go what has happend is that some much appreciated prog sellers have been told they are no longer needed and the progs will be sold elsewhere. now i think everyone has said that it was handled poorly so i dont know what your problem is and why you are getting so worked up about an issue that dosent affect your club! you have a go at the `positives` on this site, well to be honest i would much rather be a positive than have your attitude! you must be a delight to be around, i dont think i have ever read anything positive in any of your posts. mim a glass half full person, your a this is the wrong glass with the wrong drink and whos been drinking it type of person. still at least like in real life, you have no friends on the web!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 yearsthomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?slugger wrote: nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
thomasupton
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10:52pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
OSPREYSAINT
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10:54pm Fri 5 Oct 12
saintand266 wrote:I have my doubts about them being skates / or skate, very fishy goings on but not necessarily the genuine article. It's difficult to tell a WUM from dumb.
Seems like there are a lot of our six fingered fishy friends on here tonight trying to wind up all up
Baddesley Bill
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10:57pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
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10:58pm Fri 5 Oct 12
saintshorse101 wrote:Said the other day I wasn't on here to make friends. Really wish there was something to be positive with Saints at the moment tbh. And today I read Lallana and Lambert haven't been included in the England squad. Their loss.
thomasupton wrote:thomas you really really are a fool arent you, you got found out last night as to not being a saint! give it a rest wont you. calm down for a bit and look at what you have posted and what has been responded to it, no one has been sacked or let go what has happend is that some much appreciated prog sellers have been told they are no longer needed and the progs will be sold elsewhere. now i think everyone has said that it was handled poorly so i dont know what your problem is and why you are getting so worked up about an issue that dosent affect your club! you have a go at the `positives` on this site, well to be honest i would much rather be a positive than have your attitude! you must be a delight to be around, i dont think i have ever read anything positive in any of your posts. mim a glass half full person, your a this is the wrong glass with the wrong drink and whos been drinking it type of person. still at least like in real life, you have no friends on the web!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 yearsthomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?slugger wrote: nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
slugger
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10:58pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:could be worse chum ..... could be worse ............ do pompey still have collection boxes and does anyone put anything in them i wonder .
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
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11:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
OSPREYSAINT
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11:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:That was the ultimate insult, I am sending Doubting Thomas to Coventry until he apologises.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Osprey...you responded! ;O)
thomasupton wrote:That is about as low as you can get, take that back. I have never been so insulted in my 65 years of Saints supporting.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:If you don't like what I serve up you could always become a Saints supporter and throw away your blue shirt.
thomasupton wrote:Probably as hacked of as I am with your tripe.
slugger wrote:Pass, let's ask Big Deuche how he feels after 25 years
thomasupton wrote:they volunteered to get 6p per program and free tickets ........ it's finished now and i feel for them but nobody has been axed , sacked or made redundant ........... which bit doesn't register ?
slugger wrote:Volunteers don't get paid, they did??
nobody has lost a job ...... they were volunteers !
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:04pm Fri 5 Oct 12
NextPM wrote:Halo conferences and events is the trading name of St Marys Catering Ltd., registration number 7200443. A wholly owned subsidary of DMWSL613 Ltd., registration number 06951765 which is also the parent company of Southampton Football Club. In the year to June 2011 (last filed accounts) it turned over 2.9m and made a pre atx profit of 470k.
They won't change the catering, Cortese own's Halo conferences & Events, It's his company!!
Deal in facts my boy.
Baddesley Bill
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11:06pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Kings Lynn Saint
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11:08pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Firstly, every time I go to buy a programme (over the last 2/3 seasons, they've sold out!!! Oh well, never mind.
Secondly, and this is aimed a "fans" like Thomas Upton and Tebourba. I have an idea that you might like.
How about the clubs sells all our best players for pittance, claimingthat if they want to go we can't do anything to stop them! Then, we can replace them with mediocre players (or players not even that good) on fairly high wages, after they have cost us £1 M plus each.
We can then sack Adkins and appoint Andy Crosby as manager as he will be a cheap option, only to sack him 4 games later because we're bottom of the league with just 3 points. We can then appoint Harry back, with Clive Woodward as Director of Football, both on high salaries.
We can then start playing the oh-so-attractive long ball game, and then when fans stop turing up, we can close all 4 corners of the ground.
Next season, in the Championship, all our half-decent players will leave as they'll have relegation clauses in their contracts. We'll end up in administration, face a 10 point penalty, and then start the 2014/15 season in League 1, but with our very existence hanging in the balance.
Then, just at the point we are about to be liquidated and cease to exist, we'll be taken over by a multi-billionaire, who will pump shed loads of money into the club, pay for the best League One striker of the time, appoint an up-and-coming English manager, support him financially through 2 successive promotions, til we arrive back in the Premiership for the 2018/19 season.
And you will still find something to moan and criticise about. Now, why don't you all just **** off and support the fishy few.
Velleity
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11:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:These twits forget that rumours and innuendo can nowadays be checked.
NextPM wrote:Halo conferences and events is the trading name of St Marys Catering Ltd., registration number 7200443. A wholly owned subsidary of DMWSL613 Ltd., registration number 06951765 which is also the parent company of Southampton Football Club. In the year to June 2011 (last filed accounts) it turned over 2.9m and made a pre atx profit of 470k.
They won't change the catering, Cortese own's Halo conferences & Events, It's his company!!
Deal in facts my boy.
They also forget that the internet has a memory and that their past misdeeds will haunt them.
Sometimes they even forget under whose name they have signed in.
thomasupton
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11:11pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
slugger
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11:14pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Velleity
says...
11:14pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Interesting juxtaposition:
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
"I take Cancer charities very seriously"
Offered £50 and
"my chosen charity is for the program sellers"
Truly amazing.
St Retford
says...
11:16pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I'm sure you do. In comparison, the business with the programme sellers doesn't seem too serious, does it? In fact, I don't think you actually give a flying fcuk about the programme sellers but you've decided to latch on to some unfortunate news for them and use that news as a stick with which to beat those running a club you don't like.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
You are all class.
thomasupton
says...
11:16pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
slugger
says...
11:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
says...
11:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Sorry Velleity I didn't take him seriously
thomasupton wrote:Interesting juxtaposition:
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
"I take Cancer charities very seriously"
Offered £50 and
"my chosen charity is for the program sellers"
Truly amazing.
Baddesley Bill
says...
11:20pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:I see my olive branch met with a refusal....despite the needs of a cancer charity that is so close to home.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Once a skunt, aways a skunt...very sad.
slugger
says...
11:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:22pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:That's up to Thomas!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
thomasupton
says...
11:22pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
says...
11:22pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
slugger
says...
11:24pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:granted .
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Velleity
says...
11:24pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If I insult you enough, will you buy me lots of beer as well?
slugger wrote:That's up to Thomas!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
St Retford
says...
11:25pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Kings Lynn Saint
says...
11:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:I know I rarely comment, but what does annoy me is "fans" like Thomas Crapton who only seem to comment on the negative stories, when they get their chance to vent their spleen against Saints and all things Cortese
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:27pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:We know you're a Saint. I'll always buy a beer for a Saint.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If I insult you enough, will you buy me lots of beer as well?
slugger wrote:That's up to Thomas!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
thomasupton
says...
11:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12
St Retford wrote:Lol
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
slugger
says...
11:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill
says...
11:32pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I'll remember that Seed!!!! :O)
Velleity wrote:We know you're a Saint. I'll always buy a beer for a Saint.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If I insult you enough, will you buy me lots of beer as well?
slugger wrote:That's up to Thomas!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:top man mr seed ....... where shall we meet ?
thomasupton wrote:Bill is a season ticket holder and also came to Everton with me last weekend.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
To put all this speculation to bed once and for all why don't you meet us in any of the pubs near the ground before the Fulham match? You chose the pub I will buy the beer.
thomasupton
says...
11:38pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Saintsayer II
says...
11:40pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:41pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger
says...
11:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:only two pubs in north baddesley ....... can't be that tough .
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
says...
11:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I can't really see it happening lol. Think I'd be a little out numbered
Come on Thomas.
saintshorse101
says...
11:44pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:thing is seed all facts like that are easy to look up, but dont let that get in the way of a good anti saints/NC/NA rant!
NextPM wrote: They won't change the catering, Cortese own's Halo conferences & Events, It's his company!!Halo conferences and events is the trading name of St Marys Catering Ltd., registration number 7200443. A wholly owned subsidary of DMWSL613 Ltd., registration number 06951765 which is also the parent company of Southampton Football Club. In the year to June 2011 (last filed accounts) it turned over 2.9m and made a pre atx profit of 470k. Deal in facts my boy.
thomasupton
says...
11:45pm Fri 5 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Doesn't the Luzbourough come under North Baddesley?
thomasupton wrote:only two pubs in north baddesley ....... can't be that tough .
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
slugger
says...
11:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:together as one !
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I can't really see it happening lol. Think I'd be a little out numbered
Come on Thomas.
slugger
says...
11:47pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:nope .
slugger wrote:Doesn't the Luzbourough come under North Baddesley?
thomasupton wrote:only two pubs in north baddesley ....... can't be that tough .
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:50pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:We're not coming to beat you up. I will have my 10 year old with me. Lots of Saints fans have different opinions and thats how life is. The only point of the exercise is to establish that you are a Saints fan because as you know many doubt it.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I can't really see it happening lol. Think I'd be a little out numbered
Come on Thomas.
Baddesley Bill
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11:53pm Fri 5 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Baddesley Arms now again Thomas. Anyway..come on mate...I was serious about the £50 donation. Cancer is a serious issue (most of us know someone who has suffered)...all you have to do is turn up and pledge £4 for a beer for my gullet. Simples...who on earth with a charitable mind would refuse easy money like that?
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
thomasupton
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11:54pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I know I have different opinions than all of you and do respect your views at the end of the day but I'll always be red. Who knows maybe one day. I get very passionate about saints and wear my heart on my sleeve.
thomasupton wrote:We're not coming to beat you up. I will have my 10 year old with me. Lots of Saints fans have different opinions and thats how life is. The only point of the exercise is to establish that you are a Saints fan because as you know many doubt it.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I can't really see it happening lol. Think I'd be a little out numbered
Come on Thomas.
thomasupton
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11:58pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Maybe one day. The steak and Stilton used to be on the corner of Rowhnams road and Botley road, is it by Great Covert garage?
thomasupton wrote:Baddesley Arms now again Thomas. Anyway..come on mate...I was serious about the £50 donation. Cancer is a serious issue (most of us know someone who has suffered)...all you have to do is turn up and pledge £4 for a beer for my gullet. Simples...who on earth with a charitable mind would refuse easy money like that?
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:02am Sat 6 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:You need to prove it. I know Bill and Slugger well and they are really nice guys (don't tell them I said that!) you have nothing to worry about meeting up. We would then vouch for you on here as being a Saint even if we don't agree with your views.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I know I have different opinions than all of you and do respect your views at the end of the day but I'll always be red. Who knows maybe one day. I get very passionate about saints and wear my heart on my sleeve.
thomasupton wrote:We're not coming to beat you up. I will have my 10 year old with me. Lots of Saints fans have different opinions and thats how life is. The only point of the exercise is to establish that you are a Saints fan because as you know many doubt it.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I can't really see it happening lol. Think I'd be a little out numbered
Come on Thomas.
thomasupton
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12:06am Sat 6 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill
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12:06am Sat 6 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:It is indeed....strange that you would shirk a charity so close to your heart. Never mind....
Baddesley Bill wrote:Maybe one day. The steak and Stilton used to be on the corner of Rowhnams road and Botley road, is it by Great Covert garage?
thomasupton wrote:Baddesley Arms now again Thomas. Anyway..come on mate...I was serious about the £50 donation. Cancer is a serious issue (most of us know someone who has suffered)...all you have to do is turn up and pledge £4 for a beer for my gullet. Simples...who on earth with a charitable mind would refuse easy money like that?
slugger wrote:Was also thinking of the Steak and Stilton but think that ones changed its name now.
St Retford wrote:lol ,my brother lived 200 yards from the place and i spelt it wrong ........oh well , sh1t happens.
thomasupton wrote:But it has to be mentioned that google played an absolutely blinding assist in your goal.
slugger wrote:1-1 I think there slugger lol
thomasupton wrote:and there too !
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:12am Sat 6 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Bill and Slugger usually go to The Station and I'm in the Channon suite. After the Villa game we met at the Joshua Tree. We're flexible though, all pubs are good!
Where do you all normally drink before the game?
saintshorse101
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12:26am Sat 6 Oct 12
randre
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1:09am Sat 6 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:As unfortunate as this is and I do feel really sorry for the people let go, it has been a rather out dated way to sell the programmes.
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
Also, being in the print trade I can say in truth that all physical sales of programmes have dropped over the last few years for many clubs. Especially as many offer a digital alternative. I am happy to say that I think there will always be a printed version (in my lifetime anyway) but demand is less than it was.
When I first started going to the dell in my teens I bought a programme quite regular, to be honest I can't remember the last time I bought one in recent years!!!
randre
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1:19am Sat 6 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:He reads too many of your posts, and let's not forget your equally negative fish finger face Toboorya, who I am sure is you!!
slugger wrote:Well go back to the Pompey board where I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms
thomasupton wrote:i read too many posts on here .
slugger wrote:Slug what is your problem????
thomasupton wrote:lol ....... what a credit to the blue few he is ........ this is an intelligent one !
OSPREYSAINT wrote:3 Days notice after all this time, yes it does upset me and I expect they're all upset too. My nipper always buys his program from these guys. Maybe they could have given them atleast one more game and we could have thanked them personally.
thomasupton wrote:These guys were volunteers who were released, the majority weren't full time employees and have not done badly over the years. Why are you so upset? Your reaction seems extreme to say the least.
slugger wrote:These guys were sacked and you call me a skate. You heartless *******
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thomasupton (anagram of southampton) is just a wum osprey , belittle him at every oportunity !
thomasupton wrote:Sanctimonious post, do you think I don't care about the guys? Read my other post before being judgemental. This is the Twenty First Century and we still were buying Programmes from a vendor standing in the pouring rain from a couple of upturned boxes, hardly Premier Class is it?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:OMG these people have been given 3 days notice and all you're worried about is getting your program wet, shame on you.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
Big Deuche
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1:21am Sat 6 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:It is another case of taking the game away from the working man and the true fan. Like producing a shirt that is not red and white stripes ... Does anyone realise that the programme is printed in Portsmoutrh?
slugger wrote:this has nothing to do with revenue agreed and imo has nothing to do with NC, I can not see him wasting valuable time discussing the pros-and-cons of programme selling, this smells of some half-wit left in charge of "improving things". Well its a classic mistake. Most football fans attending games do not seek out programmes, they want one where they know they can find it and before they go into the ground, mostly.
Abbey Saint wrote:i repeat (sort of) what i said above ........ i refuse to belive that nicola is doing this because of some "shortfall" .......... badly handled i accept ....... just his way i guess .
Abbey Saint wrote:Sorry - old Git syndrome - comment should finish "how they're doing it"
slugger wrote:I don't know - but if no shortfall, why these actions? There is a recession and its reasonable to assume that Saints aren't immune to it. This is not an argument about what Saints are doing, but how they're do
Abbey Saint wrote:what lower than expected revenue ?
WobblyCat wrote:No ones talking about financial meltdown - the club is financially better off than just about any other UK club.
slugger wrote:Very well put slugger, the suggestion that we have laid off progamme sellers cos we're broke is hilarious. I would imagine the club budgeted for training ground and I don't see why attendences have been over estimated (not under), we've had good crowds.
Abbey Saint wrote:if you really believe that the club are letting a handfull of program sellers go who earn about £60 a fortnight is a sign of financial meltdown at saints i fear for your grasp on reality .
Saintade wrote:Nail on the head
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
Do wish the club would handle things better though.
The point made is about the financially prudent measures taken in reference to lower than expected revenue and how those measures are seen by the media and supporters.That this conversation is taking place could be seen as evidence that there is more than one view on the subject.
hedge end bob
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1:35am Sat 6 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:HE PLAYS WITH HIS SISTER HE'S A SKUNT.
TEBOURBA wrote:what is wrong with some people..... NC is involved with trying to buy/sell multi-million pounds players.... what rational bone in your body thinks he can be bothered with match-day programme matters !?!? get real, this is the work of some numpty, probably an "expert" on marketing or something. But if you seriously think Nicola has the time to debate programme selling stategy then I assume you have soft toys in abundance to play with at home..
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
YOU CAN TAKE THIS COMMENT OFF AS WELL MR ECHO.
Big Deuche
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1:38am Sat 6 Oct 12
Saints fan for 50 years and have been to almost all home games and many away games during that time. I love my club as much as anyone of you. When I was given the chance to help this great club I took it. I even paid to get in for 10 years despite having a free ticket. The letter I received was disgusting. It did not even give me the option of paying for a ticket to the games. These people are as far removed from the real supporters as you can get. They knew we are red and white stripes yet pushed through the new style shirts with total disregard of the feelings of the true Saints fan. Does any opf you realise that the Saints matchday programme is printed in Portsmouth? I guess not as the address of the printers is omitted in the programme ... Look up Bishops printers. Finally I would like to say that foir 50 years I have loved and supported this club. I have the greatest of respect for mr Cortese who, along with the lovely Marcus Liebherr saved the club I love. I will be a Southampton fan until I die. And even though I feel like I have been betrayed by the love of my life, that will never change
Abbey Saint
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5:43am Sat 6 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:Good on you
Ok ... I am one of the programme sellers that was sent the disgusting letter telling me I was "surplus to requirements" I have been a
Saints fan for 50 years and have been to almost all home games and many away games during that time. I love my club as much as anyone of you. When I was given the chance to help this great club I took it. I even paid to get in for 10 years despite having a free ticket. The letter I received was disgusting. It did not even give me the option of paying for a ticket to the games. These people are as far removed from the real supporters as you can get. They knew we are red and white stripes yet pushed through the new style shirts with total disregard of the feelings of the true Saints fan. Does any opf you realise that the Saints matchday programme is printed in Portsmouth? I guess not as the address of the printers is omitted in the programme ... Look up Bishops printers. Finally I would like to say that foir 50 years I have loved and supported this club. I have the greatest of respect for mr Cortese who, along with the lovely Marcus Liebherr saved the club I love. I will be a Southampton fan until I die. And even though I feel like I have been betrayed by the love of my life, that will never change
SaintsBTGOG
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7:24am Sat 6 Oct 12
randre
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7:35am Sat 6 Oct 12
Kings Lynn Saint wrote:Great post ;0)
I'll just like to say two things.
Firstly, every time I go to buy a programme (over the last 2/3 seasons, they've sold out!!! Oh well, never mind.
Secondly, and this is aimed a "fans" like Thomas Upton and Tebourba. I have an idea that you might like.
How about the clubs sells all our best players for pittance, claimingthat if they want to go we can't do anything to stop them! Then, we can replace them with mediocre players (or players not even that good) on fairly high wages, after they have cost us £1 M plus each.
We can then sack Adkins and appoint Andy Crosby as manager as he will be a cheap option, only to sack him 4 games later because we're bottom of the league with just 3 points. We can then appoint Harry back, with Clive Woodward as Director of Football, both on high salaries.
We can then start playing the oh-so-attractive long ball game, and then when fans stop turing up, we can close all 4 corners of the ground.
Next season, in the Championship, all our half-decent players will leave as they'll have relegation clauses in their contracts. We'll end up in administration, face a 10 point penalty, and then start the 2014/15 season in League 1, but with our very existence hanging in the balance.
Then, just at the point we are about to be liquidated and cease to exist, we'll be taken over by a multi-billionaire, who will pump shed loads of money into the club, pay for the best League One striker of the time, appoint an up-and-coming English manager, support him financially through 2 successive promotions, til we arrive back in the Premiership for the 2018/19 season.
And you will still find something to moan and criticise about. Now, why don't you all just **** off and support the fishy few.
Velleity
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8:02am Sat 6 Oct 12
Big Deuche wrote:BD, sorry to hear about the way it's been done. As I've said above, I can understand the fact the decision's been made, but it seems to have been carried out in a pretty thoughtless way.
Ok ... I am one of the programme sellers that was sent the disgusting letter telling me I was "surplus to requirements" I have been a
Saints fan for 50 years and have been to almost all home games and many away games during that time. I love my club as much as anyone of you. When I was given the chance to help this great club I took it. I even paid to get in for 10 years despite having a free ticket. The letter I received was disgusting. It did not even give me the option of paying for a ticket to the games. These people are as far removed from the real supporters as you can get. They knew we are red and white stripes yet pushed through the new style shirts with total disregard of the feelings of the true Saints fan. Does any opf you realise that the Saints matchday programme is printed in Portsmouth? I guess not as the address of the printers is omitted in the programme ... Look up Bishops printers. Finally I would like to say that foir 50 years I have loved and supported this club. I have the greatest of respect for mr Cortese who, along with the lovely Marcus Liebherr saved the club I love. I will be a Southampton fan until I die. And even though I feel like I have been betrayed by the love of my life, that will never change
Thanks for all the work you've done over the years - hope you can sort out tickets. It's a shame the club haven't given you the option to buy some kind of short season ticket for the seats they must have set aside for you in the past so you can get to the games this year...
Velleity
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8:07am Sat 6 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Will the Joshua Tree allow my 10yo son in?
thomasupton wrote:Bill and Slugger usually go to The Station and I'm in the Channon suite. After the Villa game we met at the Joshua Tree. We're flexible though, all pubs are good!
Where do you all normally drink before the game?
If so, I'm more than up for a pint after the game (it's a 1:30 kick off, remember). So is my son, probably.
S Pance
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8:30am Sat 6 Oct 12
bazza wrote:25 years as a seller and you can't spell "Programme"..
25 years selling to get notice of 3 days.Good work Saints,No more progams for me.Reading some of these posts on here must all work for NC.
Southampton boy
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8:52am Sat 6 Oct 12
right back in the bar wrote:I agree never buy one anyway sorry to them lose there job but please please get the catering sort the cub is losing lots off mony here
if the club really does have the customer interest at heart maybe invest in a couple of decent defenders (oh and improve the catering)
Rockhopper
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9:35am Sat 6 Oct 12
Can't see any reason other than a relatively small saving to the club on wages.
If that's the case I would have preferred to see savings made by a reduction in the number of stewards employed on a match day.
From observations they appear well over-staffed both inside and outside the stadium, while of course watching the match for free.
More importantly unlike the programme sellers they are not generating an income for the club.
Very disappointing how these people have been treated by SFC.
skin2000
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9:57am Sat 6 Oct 12
Tony Robertson
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10:18am Sat 6 Oct 12
angus mc coatup
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10:21am Sat 6 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:It's called the bedes lea for starters.
slugger wrote:Is it?? Not the Beadslea?
thomasupton wrote:pompey are playing on saturday ..... you'll be fine ! ......... it's the beadslee btw .
Baddesley Bill wrote:Bungalow Bill, my chosen charity is for the program sellers. I can't be at the Beadsley Sunday because I'll be at the match. Leave the money behind the bar and I'll pick it up Monday. I'll buy you a pint of squash when I see you
thomasupton wrote:In that case I have £50 to give to your chosen charity...all you have to do is buy me a beer before the Fulham game on Sunday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I haven't got a clue, I was just saying with losing my friend and my Dad recovering I take Cancer charities very seriously.
thomasupton wrote:Where did the charity money go Thomas? You have a vested interest (one that everyone here would sympathise with)...answer the question.
slugger wrote:Yes very poor just like those program sellers now.
thomasupton .... you think you're good but you're poor ..... very poor . lol
and I think old thomas is a bournemouth fan.from upton.
Jameski
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11:04am Sat 6 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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11:04am Sat 6 Oct 12
Rockhopper wrote:What exactly is your take on what the Stewards are there for?
Seems a strange decision and surely the programme sellers could be relocated to other tasks around the stadium.
Can't see any reason other than a relatively small saving to the club on wages.
If that's the case I would have preferred to see savings made by a reduction in the number of stewards employed on a match day.
From observations they appear well over-staffed both inside and outside the stadium, while of course watching the match for free.
More importantly unlike the programme sellers they are not generating an income for the club.
Very disappointing how these people have been treated by SFC.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:08am Sat 6 Oct 12
Jameski wrote:Hope not, I hate machines! Stopped using W H Smiths because they kept ushering me towards their stupid automated machines. I prefer the service of a human being, call me old fashioned if you like. So far I have had no problem with the SM ticket readers but my blood pressure always goes through roof in anticipation of rejection.....
Maybe they will sell the programmes from vending machines inside the stadium?
OSPREYSAINT
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11:19am Sat 6 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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11:34am Sat 6 Oct 12
saintshorse101 wrote:Shouldn't worry he always gives as much as he gets, love the banter and apart from overstepping with blue shirt jibe, don't take him too seriously.
i`m starting to get worried that all of us responding to thomasuphimself could be seen as internet bullying and would like to remind us all of the law....... oh who cares he a fish
OSPREYSAINT
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11:36am Sat 6 Oct 12
skin2000 wrote:None of them have any pace from what I saw of them.
Can any of the programme sellers play at centre back?
ottostrasser
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12:28pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Kings Lynn Saint
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2:07pm Sat 6 Oct 12
randre wrote:Thanks
Kings Lynn Saint wrote:Great post ;0)
I'll just like to say two things.
Firstly, every time I go to buy a programme (over the last 2/3 seasons, they've sold out!!! Oh well, never mind.
Secondly, and this is aimed a "fans" like Thomas Upton and Tebourba. I have an idea that you might like.
How about the clubs sells all our best players for pittance, claimingthat if they want to go we can't do anything to stop them! Then, we can replace them with mediocre players (or players not even that good) on fairly high wages, after they have cost us £1 M plus each.
We can then sack Adkins and appoint Andy Crosby as manager as he will be a cheap option, only to sack him 4 games later because we're bottom of the league with just 3 points. We can then appoint Harry back, with Clive Woodward as Director of Football, both on high salaries.
We can then start playing the oh-so-attractive long ball game, and then when fans stop turing up, we can close all 4 corners of the ground.
Next season, in the Championship, all our half-decent players will leave as they'll have relegation clauses in their contracts. We'll end up in administration, face a 10 point penalty, and then start the 2014/15 season in League 1, but with our very existence hanging in the balance.
Then, just at the point we are about to be liquidated and cease to exist, we'll be taken over by a multi-billionaire, who will pump shed loads of money into the club, pay for the best League One striker of the time, appoint an up-and-coming English manager, support him financially through 2 successive promotions, til we arrive back in the Premiership for the 2018/19 season.
And you will still find something to moan and criticise about. Now, why don't you all just **** off and support the fishy few.
pompey in spain
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2:15pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Scarborosaint
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2:36pm Sat 6 Oct 12
upwherewebelong
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6:31pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Saintade wrote:bit confused by your post. Wigan at home was watched by 29k fans I believe - was never going to sell out. Man Utd and Villa were watched by over 30k fans so don't think revenues can be down by that much. Think you are falling into the trap I used to of letting emotions cloud your response. The Staplewood pause to works is just that a pause. This often happens in major construction works to ensure plans are correct. Is sad for the programme sellers but in my opinion realistically we need to focus on things "on the pitch" rather than things off the pitch that don't earn us points
Firstly the rather suspect halting of work at Stoneham and now axing programme sellers with a lame excuse...these are classic signs of a moratorium on spending. I reckon we've seriously overspent and have also underestimated attendances and retail sales and our revenues are way down. And I'm not surprised with that horrible new kit that hardly anyone has bought.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:53pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Scarborosaint wrote:Never forget that the supporters that gave their loyalty have been rewarded with a team in the Premier League of English Football, through, primarily, the work of two people, Markus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese. Do you really want to reward them by doubting what that they did for the Club? There are bound to be ups and downs, I cannot believe that you cannot keep the faith and trust in Nicola, he has a dream and I am sure he is doing everything he can do to realise it. If you cannot give your full support, then I suggest you are in the wrong place at wrong time and SFC is not for you after all. Think before you post, be sure that what you have to say is factual, truthfull, not scurrilous speculation, that can do damage even if it is proved to be wrong later. We all want to know, we have a right to know, but I have no doubt that the Club will clarify the situation when it is right to do so. Please do not even bother to respond to the WUMs, they know even less about it than we do and their words are empty, just designed to annoy. Keep the faith, the future is bright, it's red and white, starting from tomorrow at St. Marys let us be hearing from wherever you are, as a supporter you are still vital in keeping the Club on track, it is down to every individual to believe, no doubting Thomas types, they are not welcome here. COYRs
4 years ago the powers that be were calling for loyalty from the supporters in the clubs time of need , the supporters stood by the club through thick and thin , loyalty is a 2 way street and 6p per programme and a ticket for the match is hardly breaking the bank . On top of the training ground work being stopped and the mention of this off shore loan let's hope we have not overstretched ourselves too much too early ; we don't want to run into financial problems again or end up in the same situation as the skates find themselves in
Scarborosaint
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8:24pm Sat 6 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Have been a supporter for over 40 years and although I agree with you about NC and ML , it doesn't mean to say we have to agree with everything that the club do , have been one of the most positive people on here and have steered away from criticising the players or the manager, have faith in our players and one of the best young managers in the country , we are all passionate about the saints ,just would like us to keep a close eye on the finances but think getting rid of the programme sellers is a backward step during the season and could of waited til the season ended. Coyrs
Scarborosaint wrote:Never forget that the supporters that gave their loyalty have been rewarded with a team in the Premier League of English Football, through, primarily, the work of two people, Markus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese. Do you really want to reward them by doubting what that they did for the Club? There are bound to be ups and downs, I cannot believe that you cannot keep the faith and trust in Nicola, he has a dream and I am sure he is doing everything he can do to realise it. If you cannot give your full support, then I suggest you are in the wrong place at wrong time and SFC is not for you after all. Think before you post, be sure that what you have to say is factual, truthfull, not scurrilous speculation, that can do damage even if it is proved to be wrong later. We all want to know, we have a right to know, but I have no doubt that the Club will clarify the situation when it is right to do so. Please do not even bother to respond to the WUMs, they know even less about it than we do and their words are empty, just designed to annoy. Keep the faith, the future is bright, it's red and white, starting from tomorrow at St. Marys let us be hearing from wherever you are, as a supporter you are still vital in keeping the Club on track, it is down to every individual to believe, no doubting Thomas types, they are not welcome here. COYRs
4 years ago the powers that be were calling for loyalty from the supporters in the clubs time of need , the supporters stood by the club through thick and thin , loyalty is a 2 way street and 6p per programme and a ticket for the match is hardly breaking the bank . On top of the training ground work being stopped and the mention of this off shore loan let's hope we have not overstretched ourselves too much too early ; we don't want to run into financial problems again or end up in the same situation as the skates find themselves in
randre
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12:14am Sun 7 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Just read this by Osprey, great positive post, well said.
Scarborosaint wrote:Never forget that the supporters that gave their loyalty have been rewarded with a team in the Premier League of English Football, through, primarily, the work of two people, Markus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese. Do you really want to reward them by doubting what that they did for the Club? There are bound to be ups and downs, I cannot believe that you cannot keep the faith and trust in Nicola, he has a dream and I am sure he is doing everything he can do to realise it. If you cannot give your full support, then I suggest you are in the wrong place at wrong time and SFC is not for you after all. Think before you post, be sure that what you have to say is factual, truthfull, not scurrilous speculation, that can do damage even if it is proved to be wrong later. We all want to know, we have a right to know, but I have no doubt that the Club will clarify the situation when it is right to do so. Please do not even bother to respond to the WUMs, they know even less about it than we do and their words are empty, just designed to annoy. Keep the faith, the future is bright, it's red and white, starting from tomorrow at St. Marys let us be hearing from wherever you are, as a supporter you are still vital in keeping the Club on track, it is down to every individual to believe, no doubting Thomas types, they are not welcome here. COYRs
4 years ago the powers that be were calling for loyalty from the supporters in the clubs time of need , the supporters stood by the club through thick and thin , loyalty is a 2 way street and 6p per programme and a ticket for the match is hardly breaking the bank . On top of the training ground work being stopped and the mention of this off shore loan let's hope we have not overstretched ourselves too much too early ; we don't want to run into financial problems again or end up in the same situation as the skates find themselves in
Some sensible fans we have.
boilerman
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11:30am Sun 7 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:I think you are wrong.
TEBOURBA wrote:what is wrong with some people..... NC is involved with trying to buy/sell multi-million pounds players.... what rational bone in your body thinks he can be bothered with match-day programme matters !?!? get real, this is the work of some numpty, probably an "expert" on marketing or something. But if you seriously think Nicola has the time to debate programme selling stategy then I assume you have soft toys in abundance to play with at home..
The chickens are coming home to roost!
What sort of man sacks people who have worked for the Club for 25 years, by text, with no notice period?
Some might say a scumbag, I couldn't possibly comment.
I think this is NC getting in some light training before the main event when he sacks Nigel.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit, Ted Bates must be spinning in his grave
Did you ever see the QPR documentary ?. the CEO was holding a finance meeting and complaining about how much a week the club spent on flowers.
Big Deuche
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7:10pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Scarborosaint wrote:Would like to put the record straight on what we were paid. Yes I would say the rate of pay was good. If you sold well you earned well. But it is not known that we were taxed on what we earned and we were never given anything like wet weather gear etc. Even the money belt was bought and paid for by me. We had to be at our pitch right up until kick off and then cash up before we got in to see the game. If our money was short it was our problem. Often the boxes were found to be short and if that was not noticed then that was our problem. We were always forgotten when anything happened, like the 'staff promotion party' at the end of last season. It was not always a bed of roses but we loved to serve the football going public, many of them becoming friends. I stood in that car park today and watched as many of my colleagues were in tears. Not because they didn't get paid for doing the job but simply because the club they have served and loved for many years had treated them so badly.
4 years ago the powers that be were calling for loyalty from the supporters in the clubs time of need , the supporters stood by the club through thick and thin , loyalty is a 2 way street and 6p per programme and a ticket for the match is hardly breaking the bank . On top of the training ground work being stopped and the mention of this off shore loan let's hope we have not overstretched ourselves too much too early ; we don't want to run into financial problems again or end up in the same situation as the skates find themselves in
Polomintno1
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8:07pm Sun 7 Oct 12
once a saint
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12:57pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Time for NC to stop messing around with the small things and concentrate on getting the big things right like or training ground and defence. Time for NC to pull his head out his r's and look at the bigger picture. We are starting to become a laughing stock of the PL due to the clown running us.
CB FRY LIVES
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1:33pm Mon 8 Oct 12
another kick in the teeth for your average working class Saints supporter.as far as i am concerned if this is another example of NC's cherished 5 year plan he can stick it where the sun don't shine.come back rupert lowe all is forgiven.
fritzer
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11:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12
By doing this would show the bright sparks that came up with this idea that we're not happy about the crazy situation, Sunday was the first time ever in 62 years of supporting the Saints that I did not buy one and my personal protest will remain till the sellers are back in their usual places.
As a point of interest I have never ever seen any people congestion where programs are being sold, my theory is that its all about some thing "very much different" !!!
Paul Nicholson
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11:37am Tue 9 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I very much doubt if the new locations will be waterproof. I sold them outside all the time and the only protection from the rain I got was what I bought myself. I also bought my own box to try and keep them dry.
I was just thinking the method of selling Programmes has been Division One for some time, hopefully the new outlets will at least be waterproof, out of the elements and I can buy a Programme without it getting wet!
Surely the point about all this is the way we received notification. 3 days notice in a letter not even the decency to call us together to let us know what they were doing.
Whatever people think about the decision, you do not treat people this way.
If your bosses did this to you at work, you maybe up in arms as well.
Thanks to everyone who has written in to support us. It is much appreciated. Also thanks to all those who bought them from me for the last 31 years I have been selling them.
Good Looking Man About Town.
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8:55am Thu 11 Oct 12
MGRA
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7:13pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Good Looking Man About Town. wrote:I have asked around about this within "old school" supporters and this is a PR disaster with that sub-group.... maybe they are not valued anymore... by the club. If thats the way it is, thats the way it is. That means there are no longer any "real" supporters though.... there are just consumers of the brand.
The poison dwarfs true colours are slowly beginning to show to the public.

right back in the bar says...
5:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12