Mystery over Saints 'loan' from tax-haven company (From Daily Echo)

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
How exactly did we end up with Sunseeker being a sponsor ?

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
I blame Guly & Fox anyway.

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
I blame Guly & Fox anyway.

Puddletown Saint wrote:
And charges £2.50 per ticket admin fee on a telephone booking.

I am some what worried that NC is running our beloved club to much like a buisness and totally forgetting the fans (customer)

And I still do not get the away fans in the Northam - watch the goals on TV and only ever see them or a great big blanket.

Come on management hink of us the fans

warrens 76 wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
How exactly did we end up with Sunseeker being a sponsor ?

Well "we can't sail this ship alone"

ah.. The beautiful South, well our bit anyway.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Good morning Saintshorse 101!
Your post was interesting as always but I'm not sure that you have read my mind correcty this time.
With my years of experience in high finance, in the square mile, I know that businesses of any kind normally have a loan facility which may be set against future earnings/ profit.
However in all my years in the City I've never come across a business negotiating multi million pound loans who sack the *tea lady to help pay pay for it.( *In the case of Football Companies Ltd. read the programme sellers.)
Can it be that the borer as been right all along and that the weasel is going to use some of the money to pay for a PL coach to help Nigel, plus strengthening the defence?.
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
Anyone else think that The Echo & Saints must have had another falling out? Two negative stories in succession just before a home game?

Come on Saints, get the three points on Sunday & then we can concentrate on talking about football rather than the sideshows!

TEBOURBA wrote:
Good morning Saintshorse 101!
Your post was interesting as always but I'm not sure that you have read my mind correcty this time.
With my years of experience in high finance, in the square mile, I know that businesses of any kind normally have a loan facility which may be set against future earnings/ profit.
However in all my years in the City I've never come across a business negotiating multi million pound loans who sack the *tea lady to help pay pay for it.( *In the case of Football Companies Ltd. read the programme sellers.)
Can it be that the borer as been right all along and that the weasel is going to use some of the money to pay for a PL coach to help Nigel, plus strengthening the defence?.
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

TEBOURBA wrote:
Good morning Saintshorse 101! Your post was interesting as always but I'm not sure that you have read my mind correcty this time. With my years of experience in high finance, in the square mile, I know that businesses of any kind normally have a loan facility which may be set against future earnings/ profit. However in all my years in the City I've never come across a business negotiating multi million pound loans who sack the *tea lady to help pay pay for it.( *In the case of Football Companies Ltd. read the programme sellers.) Can it be that the borer as been right all along and that the weasel is going to use some of the money to pay for a PL coach to help Nigel, plus strengthening the defence?. RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Confucious wrote:

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
I blame Guly & Fox anyway.

Good point Inspector Rob The Saint NOT in NZ.

But they must have someone on the outside working with them - likely a disgruntled LB or CB who was deliberately not signed by Nicola, either because he forgot about it or because he just felt like annoying the fans.

I've been on the lookout for any sh!t stirring posters on here registering as "CB NOT In the Squad" or "LB NOT in the squad". If any posts appear from "LB and CB NOT in the Squad" then Fox and Guly have a wider outside network operating.

I would also appeal to everyone to keep an eye out this Sunday for any former programme sellers with false stick-on beards and noses. I've told the club there is a plot afoot involving a large beer barrel which is actually full of gunpowder. Worryingly, as usual the club have refused to comment - so there must be something in it.

mack chinnon wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Good morning Saintshorse 101!
Your post was interesting as always but I'm not sure that you have read my mind correcty this time.
With my years of experience in high finance, in the square mile, I know that businesses of any kind normally have a loan facility which may be set against future earnings/ profit.
However in all my years in the City I've never come across a business negotiating multi million pound loans who sack the *tea lady to help pay pay for it.( *In the case of Football Companies Ltd. read the programme sellers.)
Can it be that the borer as been right all along and that the weasel is going to use some of the money to pay for a PL coach to help Nigel, plus strengthening the defence?.
RYRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on the Dons.

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

if sky went bust all prem teams would be in deep doo doo , especially man u .

TEBOURBA wrote:
Don't think the ex-programme sellers would agree with you Landdo!

saintshorse101 wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Don't think the ex-programme sellers would agree with you Landdo!

are you ever going to answer questions put to you? qualifications? years of experience in high finance?
no you wont because you are just a skate wum!

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

TEBOURBA wrote:
Ian Holloway never changed his style, Blackpool shipped far more goals than they scored, remind me, where are Blackpool now??
Lengendary LMcM got his coaching help a different way by signing experienced pros with a few years left in their legs, like Ball, Keegan, Shilton, Nicholl, Watson ---etc.etc.
NA needs someone he can lean on for support, he is big enough to realise that getting some help doesn't reflect badly on him.
Another thought, the weasel may be looking for a loan just in case he has to sack Nigel!
And one last one, is it St Nicola?because a lot of people on here consider he is infallible, perfect and should not be criticised in any way, shape or form.
I call it blind faith.

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

The only perilous accounting going o nin this bit of "news" is the commenters who are adding two and two and coming up with an answer of "conspiracy".

TEBOURBA wrote:
Ian Holloway never changed his style, Blackpool shipped far more goals than they scored, remind me, where are Blackpool now?? Lengendary LMcM got his coaching help a different way by signing experienced pros with a few years left in their legs, like Ball, Keegan, Shilton, Nicholl, Watson ---etc.etc. NA needs someone he can lean on for support, he is big enough to realise that getting some help doesn't reflect badly on him. Another thought, the weasel may be looking for a loan just in case he has to sack Nigel! And one last one, is it St Nicola?because a lot of people on here consider he is infallible, perfect and should not be criticised in any way, shape or form. I call it blind faith.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Ian Holloway never changed his style, Blackpool shipped far more goals than they scored, remind me, where are Blackpool now??
Lengendary LMcM got his coaching help a different way by signing experienced pros with a few years left in their legs, like Ball, Keegan, Shilton, Nicholl, Watson ---etc.etc.
NA needs someone he can lean on for support, he is big enough to realise that getting some help doesn't reflect badly on him.
Another thought, the weasel may be looking for a loan just in case he has to sack Nigel!
And one last one, is it St Nicola?because a lot of people on here consider he is infallible, perfect and should not be criticised in any way, shape or form.
I call it blind faith.

saintshorse101 wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Don't think the ex-programme sellers would agree with you Landdo!

are you ever going to answer questions put to you? qualifications? years of experience in high finance?
no you wont because you are just a skate wum!

dadofmy3sons wrote:
It is not blind faith.
I understand that any person can make mistakes and might learn from them.
Not something that theborer would understand because as a high flying expert on everything under the sun , he has never made a mistake.
You misread it here first.

saintshorse101 wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Ian Holloway never changed his style, Blackpool shipped far more goals than they scored, remind me, where are Blackpool now?? Lengendary LMcM got his coaching help a different way by signing experienced pros with a few years left in their legs, like Ball, Keegan, Shilton, Nicholl, Watson ---etc.etc. NA needs someone he can lean on for support, he is big enough to realise that getting some help doesn't reflect badly on him. Another thought, the weasel may be looking for a loan just in case he has to sack Nigel! And one last one, is it St Nicola?because a lot of people on here consider he is infallible, perfect and should not be criticised in any way, shape or form. I call it blind faith.

still no answers yet then booooorer!
i think you will find that people do criticise NC when its needed, like with the programme sellers and how it was handled! what saints fans dont do is call NC a weasel! you though are NO saints fan are you! NA has a full backroom staff and i am sure though if he ever did need advice you would be the last person on the list because you are unable to ever answer any questions put to you!
answer the questions come on it wont hurt you!

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

pompey in spain wrote:
hello, hello ,hello, does it look like the whiter than white saints are involved in something dodgy.?? and as for sacking your programme sellers during a economic time like this??.....disgustin

g.... in my defence i have been drinking a lot of san migual beer of late.

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

I am laughing now, but only at your particular brand of stupidity. What is the weather like in Milton Keynes?

pompey in spain wrote:
hello, hello ,hello, does it look like the whiter than white saints are involved in something dodgy.?? and as for sacking your programme sellers during a economic time like this??.....disgustin g.... in my defence i have been drinking a lot of san migual beer of late.

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

The only perilous accounting going o nin this bit of "news" is the commenters who are adding two and two and coming up with an answer of "conspiracy".

on the contrary, there is no conspiracy but there is borrowing against future income which by its very nature is perilous accounting. That a fact. This does mean however that such loans are not good business decisions.

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
How exactly did we end up with Sunseeker being a sponsor ?

pompey in spain wrote:
HAVING A BAD DAY SAINT HORSE?

pompey in spain wrote:
HAVING A BAD DAY SAINT HORSE?

saintshorse101 wrote:

pompey in spain wrote: hello, hello ,hello, does it look like the whiter than white saints are involved in something dodgy.?? and as for sacking your programme sellers during a economic time like this??.....disgustin g.... in my defence i have been drinking a lot of san migual beer of late.

alcohol is no defense for stupidity! re-read the previous story and you will find that no one has been `sacked`! volunteers have been told they are no longer needed thats all! ffs what is dodgy about that or a club getting a lone against future income? what might be dodgy is a club going into admin twice in 3 years, not paying a CVA, outbidding other clubs for players, whilst in admin, dumping your entire 1st team and not paying up their full contracts because you have no money, and then brining in a new team instead of paying your explayers and refusing to play the youth squad. stealing from local businesses (then asking them to pay for more players that you cant afford) and from charities twice. circumventing fa rules to bring in a player by saying he is a coach! not paying vat and paye and running up a huge tax bill then only paying a tiny % of that tax bill and so robbing from the country! think about your tax evasion and the amount owed and then think about everything thats being closed around the country, libraries, day care centres etc and how that tax could have helped to save some of them! your `club` has been dodgy for so many years its unbelievable that its still running. times up surely, time now to close down and start again! i love the dons always have!

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

PTID1898 wrote:
The sun is shining in mk dons 2-0 up get in by half four tomorrow you will be 2 down

TEBOURBA wrote:
Reading some of the postings defending and praising St Nicola, I thought I might have been a tad unfair to him by referring to him as a weasel.
So, to ease my conscience, I looked up the meaning in the dictionary which stated --- weasel --- a person regarded as sneaky or treacherous.
I can't begin to tell you all how great it feels to have a clear conscience.
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

Velleity wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Reading some of the postings defending and praising St Nicola, I thought I might have been a tad unfair to him by referring to him as a weasel.
So, to ease my conscience, I looked up the meaning in the dictionary which stated --- weasel --- a person regarded as sneaky or treacherous.
I can't begin to tell you all how great it feels to have a clear conscience.
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Thomasupton. Good to see you still using both logons.

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think Pompey bashing is juvenile.
On a recent foreign holiday I was talking to a bunch of blokes from the north-east who claimed it was the centre of the known football universe. They commented that the south coast can not compare.
I remarked on our stadium and the Bowl, they responded that they had all been to Fratton Park and it w4s a sh!t hole !
I couldn't argue with that but countered that we support our local teams and Pompey were the same. They laughed and said that anyone who supported a club with their financial record and track record for dishonesty knew nothing about football.
Trying to point out that they were trying to buy their own club as fans and stop it going to another bunch of criminals, again they laughed. 1500 pledges in a city of that size? It just shows how fair weather they are.
This was a disappointment to me after trying to promote the region I live in.
So....with that in mind I am going to lie in future about Portsmouth and say that it isn't actually a place, but a disease.
Unless the borer can help with this problem as he seems to have expertise in everything there is to know about anything, perhaps he point out some good aspects of the sh!t hole down the road?

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

Isn't upton near poole,not a cherries fan are you.

slugger wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

Isn't upton near poole,not a cherries fan are you.

thomasupton is an anagram of southampton , he's being ironic .

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

Isn't upton near poole,not a cherries fan are you.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Reading some of the postings defending and praising St Nicola, I thought I might have been a tad unfair to him by referring to him as a weasel.
So, to ease my conscience, I looked up the meaning in the dictionary which stated --- weasel --- a person regarded as sneaky or treacherous.
I can't begin to tell you all how great it feels to have a clear conscience.
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MK Dons got one back OG

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now.
did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid.
why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2 2 MK Dons have equalised

puppy saint wrote:
We just need Fatty X after a few meths mojitos and we are fully loonyed up.

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY?

Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly?

For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
WBA 3 2

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
WBA 3 2

Correction Wigan 3 2 up

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
WBA 3 2

Correction Wigan 3 2 up

slugger wrote:
out and about in romsey tonight ....... how many pubs are there thomas ?

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

The only perilous accounting going o nin this bit of "news" is the commenters who are adding two and two and coming up with an answer of "conspiracy".

on the contrary, there is no conspiracy but there is borrowing against future income which by its very nature is perilous accounting. That a fact. This does mean however that such loans are not good business decisions.

My business borrows against future income. For example, we have recently borrowed to buy a van. The payments will be made out of revenue over the next three years.

If that's "perilous accounting" then mine and (probably) every other business in the UK is in peril.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

slugger wrote:
out and about in romsey tonight ....... how many pubs are there thomas ?

Tommy Tank will be drinking in the Fawcett Inn tonight..you can count on it.



skunt

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

The only perilous accounting going o nin this bit of "news" is the commenters who are adding two and two and coming up with an answer of "conspiracy".

on the contrary, there is no conspiracy but there is borrowing against future income which by its very nature is perilous accounting. That a fact. This does mean however that such loans are not good business decisions.

My business borrows against future income. For example, we have recently borrowed to buy a van. The payments will be made out of revenue over the next three years.

If that's "perilous accounting" then mine and (probably) every other business in the UK is in peril.

Any business ( other than football ) that borrows hugely against ONE main income/revenue is taking an enormous risk. Its not hard to understand... Thats why football-related loans are sooooooooooooo expensive...

Mush On The Beach wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
WBA 3 2

Correction Wigan 3 2 up

Are you drinking my pint of daiquiri?

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:
And so Saints take the first step back to perilous accounting. Say what you like, defend who you like, criticise who you like,,,, but the stone cold fact is that we are reverting back to borrowing against future income.... If it works then its extremely positive, if it does not then it can be the road to ruin. Its gambling. Or to put it in some sort of context, if next summer if Sky went bust, SFC would be crippled, so we are depending on 3rd parties again for solvency. Of course Sky is unlikely to go bust next summer.... ;-)

The only perilous accounting going o nin this bit of "news" is the commenters who are adding two and two and coming up with an answer of "conspiracy".

on the contrary, there is no conspiracy but there is borrowing against future income which by its very nature is perilous accounting. That a fact. This does mean however that such loans are not good business decisions.

My business borrows against future income. For example, we have recently borrowed to buy a van. The payments will be made out of revenue over the next three years.

If that's "perilous accounting" then mine and (probably) every other business in the UK is in peril.

Any business ( other than football ) that borrows hugely against ONE main income/revenue is taking an enormous risk. Its not hard to understand... Thats why football-related loans are sooooooooooooo expensive...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
WBA 3 2

Correction Wigan 3 2 up

Are you drinking my pint of daiquiri?

I could be if I knew what it was!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

slugger wrote:
out and about in romsey tonight ....... how many pubs are there thomas ?

Tommy Tank will be drinking in the Fawcett Inn tonight..you can count on it.



skunt

Isn't that the Faucet Inn, where they have the beer on tap?

TEBOURBA wrote:
Only six games in to the season and already the happy clappies, who kneel at the feet of St Nicola, are busy checking every PL score, praying other teams, close to Saints lose.
Actions speak louder than words and these actions seem to me to betray a lack of confidence in Saints ability to climb the table off their own bat.
If Saints are to survive in the PL they should be capable of beating teams like Fulham at home.
If they don't, then the list of teams that they should be favourite to beat at home gets shorter and shorter ---- Reading, Norwich, QPR, Wigan ? oh no they've already beaten us 0-2, Aston Villa? -- well there's an odd exception to every rule!
To be on the safe side, I would advise the Saints' fans to take along their prayer mats and their voodoo dolls of Fulham's players, to St Mary's tomorrow, just make sure you take plenty of pins!
Come to think of it maybe there's a market for selling mats,dolls and pins outside St Mary's --- any sacked
programme vendors interested?
Of course all this would be uneccessary if the weasel invested some of his loan money in a first class coach to assist Nigel and a couple of defenders.
What we have now ain't working, remember my words mid afternoon tomorrow!
YRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

tugboat wrote:
A "nothing" story,normal practice for lots of clubs,it looks like the "lets take a swipe at cortese" season has started.
Poor show echo.

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out?
i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin?
jog on numpty

pompey in spain wrote:
hello, hello ,hello, does it look like the whiter than white saints are involved in something dodgy.?? and as for sacking your programme sellers during a economic time like this??.....disgustin

g.... in my defence i have been drinking a lot of san migual beer of late.

PTID1898 wrote:
The sun is shining in mk dons 2-0 up get in by half four tomorrow you will be 2 down

Velleity wrote:
"Large business moves money around internationally, shock, horror."

Can't wait to see what the Negative Twins make of this.

PTID1898 wrote:
Well well well, how the tables are starting to turn again,the so called mighty (sorry i cant say it) scum are starting to loan money,is your club potless,have you run out of money, is cortese starting to see the light, is he ready to quit. This is the start of things to come for you relegation, get beat tomorrow, and your potless, i just have one thing to say sha la la la la la la la who the f**k is laughing now!!!!PUP,PTID

puppy saint wrote:
We just need Fatty X after a few meths mojitos and we are fully loonyed up.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:

puppy saint wrote:
We just need Fatty X after a few meths mojitos and we are fully loonyed up.

A bit tanked up after lunch time session!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I know nothing about this loan but I guess it tells us the family have turned the tap off.

Do you remember the Ramirez deal stalled for ages not over the fee but the payment terms. We wanted to spread the payments over time they wanted the money upfront. I suppose this tells us what the outcome was.

Spending future revenue is not unique but we must remember you can't spend it twice so when we get to the 'future' that income is already allocated to the 'past'. It's when it doesn't stop and a period of consolidation doesn't happen that the skunts tits fall off.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Only six games in to the season and already the happy clappies, who kneel at the feet of St Nicola, are busy checking every PL score, praying other teams, close to Saints lose.
Actions speak louder than words and these actions seem to me to betray a lack of confidence in Saints ability to climb the table off their own bat.
If Saints are to survive in the PL they should be capable of beating teams like Fulham at home.
If they don't, then the list of teams that they should be favourite to beat at home gets shorter and shorter ---- Reading, Norwich, QPR, Wigan ? oh no they've already beaten us 0-2, Aston Villa? -- well there's an odd exception to every rule!
To be on the safe side, I would advise the Saints' fans to take along their prayer mats and their voodoo dolls of Fulham's players, to St Mary's tomorrow, just make sure you take plenty of pins!
Come to think of it maybe there's a market for selling mats,dolls and pins outside St Mary's --- any sacked
programme vendors interested?
Of course all this would be uneccessary if the weasel invested some of his loan money in a first class coach to assist Nigel and a couple of defenders.
What we have now ain't working, remember my words mid afternoon tomorrow!
YRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out? i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin? jog on numpty

Get back on your high horse and you jog off (happy clapper). Yes I work in the building trade and also a true supporter who wants the best from our club. Seriously worried we're loaning money and coincides with building work stopping at staplewood and program sellers getting sacked.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

TEBOURBA wrote:
Only six games in to the season and already the happy clappies, who kneel at the feet of St Nicola, are busy checking every PL score, praying other teams, close to Saints lose.
Actions speak louder than words and these actions seem to me to betray a lack of confidence in Saints ability to climb the table off their own bat.
If Saints are to survive in the PL they should be capable of beating teams like Fulham at home.
If they don't, then the list of teams that they should be favourite to beat at home gets shorter and shorter ---- Reading, Norwich, QPR, Wigan ? oh no they've already beaten us 0-2, Aston Villa? -- well there's an odd exception to every rule!
To be on the safe side, I would advise the Saints' fans to take along their prayer mats and their voodoo dolls of Fulham's players, to St Mary's tomorrow, just make sure you take plenty of pins!
Come to think of it maybe there's a market for selling mats,dolls and pins outside St Mary's --- any sacked
programme vendors interested?
Of course all this would be uneccessary if the weasel invested some of his loan money in a first class coach to assist Nigel and a couple of defenders.
What we have now ain't working, remember my words mid afternoon tomorrow!
YRIHF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

I'm a bit gutted tbh. What about if we pop down to Fratton for the Crewe game to save you a journey?

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

I'm a bit gutted tbh. What about if we pop down to Fratton for the Crewe game to save you a journey?

angus mc coatup wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote: Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

I'm a bit gutted tbh. What about if we pop down to Fratton for the Crewe game to save you a journey?

looks like she's blown you out bill.!!

saintshorse101 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote: Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

I'm a bit gutted tbh. What about if we pop down to Fratton for the Crewe game to save you a journey?

looks like she's blown you out bill.!!

he dosent want to meet you cause hes not old enough to go in a pub! hes a 13yr old school boy from skateland trying to be big and clever!

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote: Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

That's not very charitable of you Thomas... I thought only PFC screwed charitable causes.

My cousin is coming down from London tomorrow with a Spanish friend of his to discuss a deal we are doing. I also have Seed the Small with me and I know you have your daughter. If we can fit him in for a swift pint given our commitments at a pub of his choice then I'm not buying his limp excuses.

If it smells like a skunt, acts like skunt and wriggles like a skunt ....it most likely is a skunt.

It certainly seems so.

Boys I don't want to meet you!

I'm a bit gutted tbh. What about if we pop down to Fratton for the Crewe game to save you a journey?

looks like she's blown you out bill.!!

he dosent want to meet you cause hes not old enough to go in a pub! hes a 13yr old school boy from skateland trying to be big and clever!

No Horsie, I'm just fussy with whom I drink with. I do find it funny you think I come from Pompey. Keep it up if it amuses you lol.

thomasupton wrote:
Yes the same ones who think I'm from Pompey too lol

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:
I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial!

I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general.

I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know.

However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

What explains staplewood and the programme sellers getting sacked?

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Reading some of the postings defending and praising St Nicola, I thought I might have been a tad unfair to him by referring to him as a weasel.
So, to ease my conscience, I looked up the meaning in the dictionary which stated --- weasel --- a person regarded as sneaky or treacherous.
I can't begin to tell you all how great it feels to have a clear conscience.
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Thomasupton. Good to see you still using both logons.

Hello viletity, good to see you out of your dfs armchair.

thomasupton wrote:
Yes the same ones who think I'm from Pompey too lol

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Yes the same ones who think I'm from Pompey too lol

so if you are from poopey then you really wont go but even if you are you are in no danger! the vast majority of saints fans are ok with poopey fans, i have a couple of very close friends myself who are poopey fans and we enjoy the banter! however there are alot of poopey fans who still seem to think that its the 1970s!
however if you are a saints fan, not likely, then what have you got to lose?

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

St Retford wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

Some *other* friends? You mean you consider the people on here who call you a skunt and think you're nothing but a desperate Internet troll to be your friends?

Amazing.

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out?
i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin?
jog on numpty

Get back on your high horse and you jog off (happy clapper). Yes I work in the building trade and also a true supporter who wants the best from our club. Seriously worried we're loaning money and coincides with building work stopping at staplewood and program sellers getting sacked.

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out?
i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin?
jog on numpty

Get back on your high horse and you jog off (happy clapper). Yes I work in the building trade and also a true supporter who wants the best from our club. Seriously worried we're loaning money and coincides with building work stopping at staplewood and program sellers getting sacked.

Ha ha ha, I am truly laughing out aloud! So now you are a top builder as well as a high finance director, football club chairman and top premier league manager. Is there a job you have not done?

You truly are a piece of work!

Wow, I can't believe it, I am stunned by your superior knowledge.... Although I think I saw some of your opinions written somewhere before.... Oh yes they were on the toilet walls written in sh1t.

thomasupton wrote:

St Retford wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Well after two bad stories lets hope we do the bizz tomorrow

Where we meeting?

I'll bring my £50....just in case.

Quality. Mr Upton has the chance to show us that he is indeed a Saint. He gets a beer from me, he gets 50 quid donated to cancer charity from you and he gets credibility on here. Only a fool or skate would turn that down.

Thank you for the offer, I wont meet you all just to gain credibility on here, I don't need it. I'm actually meeting some other friends

Some *other* friends? You mean you consider the people on here who call you a skunt and think you're nothing but a desperate Internet troll to be your friends?

Amazing.

Yes, why not ?

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out?
i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin?
jog on numpty

Get back on your high horse and you jog off (happy clapper). Yes I work in the building trade and also a true supporter who wants the best from our club. Seriously worried we're loaning money and coincides with building work stopping at staplewood and program sellers getting sacked.

Ha ha ha, I am truly laughing out aloud! So now you are a top builder as well as a high finance director, football club chairman and top premier league manager. Is there a job you have not done?

You truly are a piece of work!

Wow, I can't believe it, I am stunned by your superior knowledge.... Although I think I saw some of your opinions written somewhere before.... Oh yes they were on the toilet walls written in sh1t.

Randy, you sound like you're getting upset.

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

randre wrote: I live this, "fans are calling for transparency", I haven't heard any fan mention any concern of it prior to this editorial! I reiterate what all sensible posters say, this is normal practice in football and indeed many companies in general. I would be very surprised if Southampton didn't have a loan facility. Why this has even warranted such a headline I do not know. However , I suppose it gives Thomas / the boorer something else to get his teeth into. I see he already claims to be a high flying finance guru, last week he was a high flying football club chairman who knew how to run the club better than Cortese. The week before that he was a top manager who knew more than NA.

Who let you out of your arm chair randy, does explain why Staplewood and the program sellers were sacked though.

Really? REALLY? Saints have a loan and as a result the programme-sellers get sacked? Really? You're seriously suggesting that theone caused the other? Really? Honestly? For all I know you may be a Saints fan. However, if you are, you're the bitterest, most negative one I can imagine. What a tragic life you must have with that attitude. I *genuinely* pity you.

No I think there must be real finance problems, builders normally down tools when the money dries up and cost cutting starts from the bottom up. Someone still has to sell the programs so the remaining staff have extra work to do now.

hello uphimself or the boooorer which ever one youre using now. did the builders down tools? i dont think they did, did they. youre just speculating and making it up to try and make NC look bad. i cant believe you are still saying that are being soundly told that there is a pause in the work over a specific issue! do you really think that saints would need to get a big loan to pay the builders! you are a sad sad fool and i pity you aswell. dont forget that there will be huge penalty clauses in the builders contract, so they wont just down tools as you suggest. there would have to have been an agreement between saints and the builders. making rubbish up just for your own agenda just makes you look even more stupid. why arent the both of you at milton keynes today? they wont make you pay for both of your personalitys!

Building work stops, program sellers are sacked and Saints are trying to secure a loan, Yes must be a total coincidence. Would you carry on working if you weren't getting paid? Yes you probably would just to be "positive"

have you ever worked in the building trade? i doubt it if you think like that. builders get staged payments from the saints. they dont get all the money upfront or when they finish the job. the workers get payed a salary from the building firm and would not `down tools` if the firm didnt get paid! do you not think that if saints had not payed one of the payments the press would have found out?
i have worked on many sites in and around southampton and had many occasions when ive had to pull off of site. mostly this was down to the architects, though there have been other reasons like tv firms wanting to film on site, bad weather and deaths. i have never had to `down tools` due to non payments! there is nothing `positive` about finding out facts and using my knowledge in this area. there is also nothing `positive` about waiting for the facts to come out before laying blame. there is however something very very negative about using every story on this site as a reason to have a go at NC/NA. i pity you for having to walk around with a chip on your shoulder thats that big! i know you are not a saints fan due to you always posting negatively, are you the dark lord? and are you upset that NC has been able to run the club is such a good manner? after you were unable to and had to put us in admin?
jog on numpty

Get back on your high horse and you jog off (happy clapper). Yes I work in the building trade and also a true supporter who wants the best from our club. Seriously worried we're loaning money and coincides with building work stopping at staplewood and program sellers getting sacked.

Ha ha ha, I am truly laughing out aloud! So now you are a top builder as well as a high finance director, football club chairman and top premier league manager. Is there a job you have not done?

You truly are a piece of work!

Wow, I can't believe it, I am stunned by your superior knowledge.... Although I think I saw some of your opinions written somewhere before.... Oh yes they were on the toilet walls written in sh1t.

Randy, you sound like you're getting upset.

No. But I'm turning in for the night, some of us have a game to go to tomorrow.

I suppose you will be here on your own waiting for the game to finish, praying that saints lose so you can write more if your negative drivle on here.

Night all.

Bunman wrote:
Isn't this what most stain fans would call cheating???? You can't even win anything when you cheat!

Bunman wrote:
Isn't this what most stain fans would call cheating???? You can't even win anything when you cheat!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bad news: El futbolista Gaston Ramírez sufrió, en el entrenamiento, un traumatismo de muslo derecho resultando con un hematoma de cuádriceps a tensión, que ha motivado su internación en observación. Se le realizaron estudios de imagen constatándose un hematoma regional, sin otras lesiones.

Lo antes expresado hace que sea baja de la convocatoria realizada para los partidos de Eliminatoria ante Argentina y Bolivia.


It says Ramirez was injured in training and is not available for the International games.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bunman wrote:
Isn't this what most stain fans would call cheating???? You can't even win anything when you cheat!

Who are you, and what are you talking about?

Invidia wrote:
Whilst I agree with most posters on here that the loan facillity is common practice in big businesses like SFC, what I am confused about is the need to use this particular company, as I always believed that the Leibher family would have been a better scource to secure loans if required. Having said all that who really knows what big companies do these day you only have to look at banks as an example, to realise that not many people know what is going on

andysaints007 wrote:

Invidia wrote:
Whilst I agree with most posters on here that the loan facillity is common practice in big businesses like SFC, what I am confused about is the need to use this particular company, as I always believed that the Leibher family would have been a better scource to secure loans if required. Having said all that who really knows what big companies do these day you only have to look at banks as an example, to realise that not many people know what is going on

Will you lot shut up about this now ! You only know what you are told and you are only told what you need to know!!! We are not shareholders and have no absolute right to know what NC does and why - that's because he is the one that makes the decisions about the club!
Is there ant true Saints fan that really thought we would be where we are right now!! No I didn't think so. Stick to doing your jobs and let him get on with his - unless you can do better of course ...

thomasupton wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

Invidia wrote:
Whilst I agree with most posters on here that the loan facillity is common practice in big businesses like SFC, what I am confused about is the need to use this particular company, as I always believed that the Leibher family would have been a better scource to secure loans if required. Having said all that who really knows what big companies do these day you only have to look at banks as an example, to realise that not many people know what is going on

Will you lot shut up about this now ! You only know what you are told and you are only told what you need to know!!! We are not shareholders and have no absolute right to know what NC does and why - that's because he is the one that makes the decisions about the club!
Is there ant true Saints fan that really thought we would be where we are right now!! No I didn't think so. Stick to doing your jobs and let him get on with his - unless you can do better of course ...

Invidia, you will soon learn on here that you're only allowed to have "positive" posts. You mustn't knock the club or chairman or the players. Even if we lose 90% of our games this season, you must be positive and have no "negative" opinions at all. And also to have an opinion you must meet all the "positive" posters at their local pub where they will interrogate you to verify you come from Southampton. Don't forget your passport and 16 other forms of ID.

truelysaints wrote:
Sounds like a simple advance on future income (money for being promoted to premier) so that he can now go out and purchase a couple of good defenders when the window opens. To believe that no premiership club can survive without having some loans is naive to say least. Good management is to be able to manage ones loans within your revenues. If he can get better deal by going offshore so be it. Only time we should worry if this loan is to be siphoned off elsewhere. Doubt this is this case as the loan is public knowledge so there has been no attempt to hide it. Much ado about nothing

insane saint wrote:
hearing rumors on twitter that Ramirez is injured any ideas guys?


i do hope not

St Retford wrote:
Any chance of a story about today's game? I don't believe the Echo is 'anti-Saints' and it has every right to publish the stories about the loan facility or the building work, but when they're the only two stories about the club in the last three days it makes the Echo seem more negative than it is. The News manages five Pompey stories a day, which is pretty much one for every player they have in the team. Surely we could at least match that,given we're in the 'most exciting league in the world' (tm).

TEBOURBA wrote:
Programme sellers sacked, building work stopped, big loan sought, local paper side lined ------- all smells very fishy to me!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
Programme sellers sacked, building work stopped, big loan sought, local paper side lined ------- all smells very fishy to me!

Time to wash your underpants!

insane saint wrote:
new thread started about today's match guys