Saints back down over corporate reshuffle

Daily Echo: Nicola Cortese Nicola Cortese

SAINTS have backed down over plans to reshuffle their corporate hospitality arrangements.

The club last week informed members of the Markus Liebherr Lounge that they were being relocated into vacant private boxes at the back of the Itchen Stand.

The move, which sources said had been sold as an “upgrade”, was due to come into effect from last Sunday’s game against Fulham.

A small number of people are understood to have accepted the change, but after objections from a number of customers, the club have opted not to enforce it.

The individual boxes at St Mary’s, which can accommodate up to ten people, have not sold as well as the club had hoped, despite Saints returning to the Premier League.

Moving supporters from the Markus Liebherr Lounge, which has about 70 regular attendees, would have helped fill some of the gaps on matchdays.

However, members of the suite said they were unhappy at the prospect of losing their centrally-located position in the stadium’s executive seating area and being moved into more isolated rooms.

After raising their concerns, chairman Nicola Cortese informed table-holders they would be allowed to remain in the lounge.

One corporate ticket holder, who wished to remain anonymous, said: “We were shocked and disappointed with the club’s attitude at one point, but relieved that common sense prevailed. We are grateful to Mr Cortese for sorting it out.”

As part of the proposals, the club had also planned to change the suite into a more informal setting, offering a buffet rather than a threecourse plated meal.

That is understood to still be going ahead, but clients who have already purchased tables for the season and do not wish to move are being reimbursed some of their money to compensate for the change.

Had Saints pressed ahead with the plans to move their Markus Liebherr Lounge table-holders, who were being switched at no extra cost, it could have caused problems with existing private box holders, who would have been paying more for the rooms.

A table in the Markus Liebherr Lounge, labelled as a Platinum Package, was priced at £32,000, excluding VAT, for the season.

Individual boxes ranged from £45,000 to £60,000 – again excluding VAT – depending on their position.

Saints had not commented on the story by the time of going to press.

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12:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

It gives you the impression that people lower down the the management tier are a bit out of touch with reality, at least Nicola isn't slow to rectify the situation when it became obvious that is wasn't right, how many of the other recent "decisions" have been taken without top level knowledge? It does nothing for our credibility when this happens, however the fact that the Club had made no comment to the Echo is no surprise.
It gives you the impression that people lower down the the management tier are a bit out of touch with reality, at least Nicola isn't slow to rectify the situation when it became obvious that is wasn't right, how many of the other recent "decisions" have been taken without top level knowledge? It does nothing for our credibility when this happens, however the fact that the Club had made no comment to the Echo is no surprise. OSPREYSAINT

12:32pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box? once a saint

12:49pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Block41row0sfc says...

More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club. Block41row0sfc

12:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12

AdrianSmith says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen AdrianSmith

12:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT

Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely.

I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.
Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season. SaintsBTGOG

1:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Block41row0sfc says...

AdrianSmith wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen
Did they report the great work then went into the ramirez deal did they go into the great work on the training ground no they would rather speculate about a loan and speculate about builders downing tools my point is fans have this as there news point and all they see is the echo slag cortese off so they slag cortese off. My boss is a p***k but he is my boss people up that ground say he is a control freak well the club got into the premier league in 3 years under his guidance. Look at forest Wednesday and Leicester we have a gem in nic.
[quote][p][bold]AdrianSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen[/p][/quote]Did they report the great work then went into the ramirez deal did they go into the great work on the training ground no they would rather speculate about a loan and speculate about builders downing tools my point is fans have this as there news point and all they see is the echo slag cortese off so they slag cortese off. My boss is a p***k but he is my boss people up that ground say he is a control freak well the club got into the premier league in 3 years under his guidance. Look at forest Wednesday and Leicester we have a gem in nic. Block41row0sfc

1:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12

franiow says...

This sort of thing depends how you report it. Having tried an expensive option for the Leihberr lounge, SFC have decided to change to buffet meal to encourage sales. They have offered the present occupants an upgrade to a box which is dearer. This is not popular with all (though note some have accepted), so rest will get a partial refund. Nothing to see here folks. I'm not a knocker of the Echo, but they have managed to put a negative slant on a non-story.
This sort of thing depends how you report it. Having tried an expensive option for the Leihberr lounge, SFC have decided to change to buffet meal to encourage sales. They have offered the present occupants an upgrade to a box which is dearer. This is not popular with all (though note some have accepted), so rest will get a partial refund. Nothing to see here folks. I'm not a knocker of the Echo, but they have managed to put a negative slant on a non-story. franiow

1:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better. once a saint

1:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saint. says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT

Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely.

I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.
Shock horror!

NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club!
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.[/p][/quote]Shock horror! NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club! Saint.

1:34pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down!
you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down!
what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again!
what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s.
what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?
all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down! you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down! what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again! what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s. what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want? saintshorse101

1:37pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?
[quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making? OSPREYSAINT

1:40pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Saint. wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT

Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely.

I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.
Shock horror!

NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club!
I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.[/p][/quote]Shock horror! NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club![/p][/quote]I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him. SaintsBTGOG

1:40pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ms Mahoney says...

once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
[quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints? Ms Mahoney

1:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?
Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?[/p][/quote]Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves. SaintsBTGOG

1:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
Ahh because its OUR club and its in our town. We pay the ticket prices and fund the wages.
[quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]Ahh because its OUR club and its in our town. We pay the ticket prices and fund the wages. SaintsBTGOG

1:46pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ? SaintsBTGOG

1:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ms Mahoney says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
Ahh because its OUR club and its in our town. We pay the ticket prices and fund the wages.
It's also a business. I like to shop at John Lewis which is in my town and by shopping there I help pay the Partners wages. I don't for one minute expect to have a say in the business decisions.

It is also not your club - it is the club you say you support.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]Ahh because its OUR club and its in our town. We pay the ticket prices and fund the wages.[/p][/quote]It's also a business. I like to shop at John Lewis which is in my town and by shopping there I help pay the Partners wages. I don't for one minute expect to have a say in the business decisions. It is also not your club - it is the club you say you support. Ms Mahoney

1:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12

billythesaint says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down!
you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down!
what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again!
what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s.
what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?
If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse."
Not a bad CV.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down! you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down! what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again! what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s. what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?[/p][/quote]If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse." Not a bad CV. billythesaint

1:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.
[quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola. once a saint

1:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

1 NC is a boss he isn't supposed to be nice Nice bosses don't generally succeed
2 Tad Lee was picked by the players after they had seen a video (or did NC allow them to do that as a treat) and the reason he doesn't play is because NC didn't pick him
3 How many privately owned firms that you use do you have a say in (Oh none so why do you think you should ha a say at SMS)
4 It's fair to say if ML had not bought SMS someone else would have It may even have been Chanderai or a rich arab with no money How lucky would we have been then
5 Pay your money sing your heart out hurt like hell for a week when we lose but never never boo a Saint and stay away from the politics especially the kind that the press and the Echo try to stir up
1 NC is a boss he isn't supposed to be nice Nice bosses don't generally succeed 2 Tad Lee was picked by the players after they had seen a video (or did NC allow them to do that as a treat) and the reason he doesn't play is because NC didn't pick him 3 How many privately owned firms that you use do you have a say in (Oh none so why do you think you should ha a say at SMS) 4 It's fair to say if ML had not bought SMS someone else would have It may even have been Chanderai or a rich arab with no money How lucky would we have been then 5 Pay your money sing your heart out hurt like hell for a week when we lose but never never boo a Saint and stay away from the politics especially the kind that the press and the Echo try to stir up Saintsayer II

2:03pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
A we have not taken any kind of loan Only set up a facility to do so if its needed Never spend your own money if you can use someone else's ask the Glaziers at Man Utd

Sunseekers are a sponsor because its a good way to advertise their product Look at how many times their name was seen on sunday alone

Now stop with the bitter sour grapes attitude and support the Saints
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]A we have not taken any kind of loan Only set up a facility to do so if its needed Never spend your own money if you can use someone else's ask the Glaziers at Man Utd Sunseekers are a sponsor because its a good way to advertise their product Look at how many times their name was seen on sunday alone Now stop with the bitter sour grapes attitude and support the Saints Saintsayer II

2:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

franiow wrote:
This sort of thing depends how you report it. Having tried an expensive option for the Leihberr lounge, SFC have decided to change to buffet meal to encourage sales. They have offered the present occupants an upgrade to a box which is dearer. This is not popular with all (though note some have accepted), so rest will get a partial refund. Nothing to see here folks. I'm not a knocker of the Echo, but they have managed to put a negative slant on a non-story.
As some one who has had corporate faciltities at SMS since it opened I can tell you one thing - the club has never consulted its customers to see what we want. There have been innumerable changes in the last 3 years, like this one, and they have all been reversed when they didn't work, like this one.

As CEO of a pretty big business I can tell you that involving your customers in your decision making makes them feel part of the process, feel listened to and above all they support the new deal making it successful. It really isn't rocket science as they say.
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: This sort of thing depends how you report it. Having tried an expensive option for the Leihberr lounge, SFC have decided to change to buffet meal to encourage sales. They have offered the present occupants an upgrade to a box which is dearer. This is not popular with all (though note some have accepted), so rest will get a partial refund. Nothing to see here folks. I'm not a knocker of the Echo, but they have managed to put a negative slant on a non-story.[/p][/quote]As some one who has had corporate faciltities at SMS since it opened I can tell you one thing - the club has never consulted its customers to see what we want. There have been innumerable changes in the last 3 years, like this one, and they have all been reversed when they didn't work, like this one. As CEO of a pretty big business I can tell you that involving your customers in your decision making makes them feel part of the process, feel listened to and above all they support the new deal making it successful. It really isn't rocket science as they say. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

2:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

Seems to be a lot of things going awry at SMS lately and with NC operating a secret service policy, it leaves the principal stakeholders in SFC, the supporters, fearing the worst.
Halting work at Staplewood ; negotiating a loan ; sacking the programme sellers ; critiscism from PL and supporters of ticket selling arrangements and buffet facilities and now the Corporate Box members rebelling against enforced changes.
Just what is going on?
Egotistical NC has no idea of how to handle customer relations and relations with the press both of whom are vital to the success of the Club.
I fear the next thing to be sprung on us is that NA has been dumped.
People don't matter to NC they are just numbers on the Balance Sheet.
Seems to be a lot of things going awry at SMS lately and with NC operating a secret service policy, it leaves the principal stakeholders in SFC, the supporters, fearing the worst. Halting work at Staplewood ; negotiating a loan ; sacking the programme sellers ; critiscism from PL and supporters of ticket selling arrangements and buffet facilities and now the Corporate Box members rebelling against enforced changes. Just what is going on? Egotistical NC has no idea of how to handle customer relations and relations with the press both of whom are vital to the success of the Club. I fear the next thing to be sprung on us is that NA has been dumped. People don't matter to NC they are just numbers on the Balance Sheet. TEBOURBA

2:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?
Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves.
No, I am not involved in any way with the Club, except as a loyal supporter who recognises that without Nicola Cortese we would have no club at all now, I repeat NO club at all, why can you not get that into your thick skulls. Anyone who runs a Premier League Football Club these days, has to have the skin of a rhino, has to make unpopular decisions most days of his life, we know he had an ambition for the Club and despite setbacks has never wavered, never asked for praise and always keeps himself to himself, no big 'I am the great owner, everyone must love me because I am great', he is a business man not a TV icon. If you want our Club to continue to survive, the best way to do it is to keep backing him, keep attending the matches and support the Team anyway you can. Every dumb post will be a new nail in the coffin, if it goes wrong I know where I will apportion the blame and it won't be someone in the Football Club.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?[/p][/quote]Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves.[/p][/quote]No, I am not involved in any way with the Club, except as a loyal supporter who recognises that without Nicola Cortese we would have no club at all now, I repeat NO club at all, why can you not get that into your thick skulls. Anyone who runs a Premier League Football Club these days, has to have the skin of a rhino, has to make unpopular decisions most days of his life, we know he had an ambition for the Club and despite setbacks has never wavered, never asked for praise and always keeps himself to himself, no big 'I am the great owner, everyone must love me because I am great', he is a business man not a TV icon. If you want our Club to continue to survive, the best way to do it is to keep backing him, keep attending the matches and support the Team anyway you can. Every dumb post will be a new nail in the coffin, if it goes wrong I know where I will apportion the blame and it won't be someone in the Football Club. OSPREYSAINT

2:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

swesaint says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
How about we all chip in and ship you to Blackburn, they seem to share your views, will make it an easy transition for you.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]How about we all chip in and ship you to Blackburn, they seem to share your views, will make it an easy transition for you. swesaint

2:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Seems to be a lot of things going awry at SMS lately and with NC operating a secret service policy, it leaves the principal stakeholders in SFC, the supporters, fearing the worst.
Halting work at Staplewood ; negotiating a loan ; sacking the programme sellers ; critiscism from PL and supporters of ticket selling arrangements and buffet facilities and now the Corporate Box members rebelling against enforced changes.
Just what is going on?
Egotistical NC has no idea of how to handle customer relations and relations with the press both of whom are vital to the success of the Club.
I fear the next thing to be sprung on us is that NA has been dumped.
People don't matter to NC they are just numbers on the Balance Sheet.
Never doubted you for a minute, just thought you were a bit slow on the uptake. NC is a football Chairman it's not a Butlins style popularity contest.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Seems to be a lot of things going awry at SMS lately and with NC operating a secret service policy, it leaves the principal stakeholders in SFC, the supporters, fearing the worst. Halting work at Staplewood ; negotiating a loan ; sacking the programme sellers ; critiscism from PL and supporters of ticket selling arrangements and buffet facilities and now the Corporate Box members rebelling against enforced changes. Just what is going on? Egotistical NC has no idea of how to handle customer relations and relations with the press both of whom are vital to the success of the Club. I fear the next thing to be sprung on us is that NA has been dumped. People don't matter to NC they are just numbers on the Balance Sheet.[/p][/quote]Never doubted you for a minute, just thought you were a bit slow on the uptake. NC is a football Chairman it's not a Butlins style popularity contest. OSPREYSAINT

2:23pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Block 34 says...

Join the protest!! email these guys!!

Email to: matchdayhospitality@
saintsfc.co.uk

Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated.

It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three.

This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans.
This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back.

It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.
Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal. Block 34

2:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It's silly to polarise ourselves into a pro or anti NC camp.

I've spoken to many of the staff at the club, current and ex, a number of suppliers and I also known AP and NA.

My take for what its worth is this. NC was instrumental in saving our club. He is a great visionary with massive drive. I believe many of his ideas are superb and the way forward. Where it falls down is his man management skills are carp. He should appoint an MD or GM to deliver his vision and ideas and allow that person to get on with it. He gets involved in minutea which is not the job of the CEO.

We all acknowledge what excellent spirit NA has created in the team. Why do we believe that isn't just as important in non playing staff?
It's silly to polarise ourselves into a pro or anti NC camp. I've spoken to many of the staff at the club, current and ex, a number of suppliers and I also known AP and NA. My take for what its worth is this. NC was instrumental in saving our club. He is a great visionary with massive drive. I believe many of his ideas are superb and the way forward. Where it falls down is his man management skills are carp. He should appoint an MD or GM to deliver his vision and ideas and allow that person to get on with it. He gets involved in minutea which is not the job of the CEO. We all acknowledge what excellent spirit NA has created in the team. Why do we believe that isn't just as important in non playing staff? Seedhouse the Unrepentant

2:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

once a saint wrote:
Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.
Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?
[quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.[/p][/quote]Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda? OSPREYSAINT

2:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
A we have not taken any kind of loan Only set up a facility to do so if its needed Never spend your own money if you can use someone else's ask the Glaziers at Man Utd

Sunseekers are a sponsor because its a good way to advertise their product Look at how many times their name was seen on sunday alone

Now stop with the bitter sour grapes attitude and support the Saints
LOL keep up esp the sunseeker stuff ffs !!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]A we have not taken any kind of loan Only set up a facility to do so if its needed Never spend your own money if you can use someone else's ask the Glaziers at Man Utd Sunseekers are a sponsor because its a good way to advertise their product Look at how many times their name was seen on sunday alone Now stop with the bitter sour grapes attitude and support the Saints[/p][/quote]LOL keep up esp the sunseeker stuff ffs !!! SaintsBTGOG

2:28pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ray the Don says...

Come on you muppets are you all so blind that you cant see Cortese is doing a Rupert Lowe.

Borrowing money!! I thought we did not need to borrow.

Axing the program sellers to save a big 0.6 pence per program are we a club now penny pinching.

NC out before the club goes backwards & to the dark days!!!!!!

Has nobody yet questioned our managers team selections & substitutions ??? Guly is a donkey & Jay a £6m misfit remember in football you are judged by results not SENTIMENT....
Come on you muppets are you all so blind that you cant see Cortese is doing a Rupert Lowe. Borrowing money!! I thought we did not need to borrow. Axing the program sellers to save a big 0.6 pence per program are we a club now penny pinching. NC out before the club goes backwards & to the dark days!!!!!! Has nobody yet questioned our managers team selections & substitutions ??? Guly is a donkey & Jay a £6m misfit remember in football you are judged by results not SENTIMENT.... Ray the Don

2:32pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Red n White says...

once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess
[quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess Red n White

2:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ray the Don says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.
Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?
Totally agree well said...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.[/p][/quote]Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?[/p][/quote]Totally agree well said... Ray the Don

2:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
Sunseeker have good taste, and sponsor a Premier Football Club with lost of lovely TV footage, what is your problem with this?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]Sunseeker have good taste, and sponsor a Premier Football Club with lost of lovely TV footage, what is your problem with this? OSPREYSAINT

2:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.
Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?
I am sorry Osprey you are obviously a bed buddy of NC and I did not mean to tread on your feelings. I respect those who show respect and it is clear from his actions that NC has no respect for fans or staff of the club. My concerns have fallen on deaf ears as yes I have raised issues with the club. I have no agenda believe it or not there are some fans capable of making up their own minds. I have always been a Saints fan and when I see "our club" being mishandled I am not going to let it go quietly.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.[/p][/quote]Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?[/p][/quote]I am sorry Osprey you are obviously a bed buddy of NC and I did not mean to tread on your feelings. I respect those who show respect and it is clear from his actions that NC has no respect for fans or staff of the club. My concerns have fallen on deaf ears as yes I have raised issues with the club. I have no agenda believe it or not there are some fans capable of making up their own minds. I have always been a Saints fan and when I see "our club" being mishandled I am not going to let it go quietly. once a saint

2:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ray the Don says...

Red n White wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess
Red and White your just another one of the NC D**k lickers..
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess[/p][/quote]Red and White your just another one of the NC D**k lickers.. Ray the Don

2:39pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Red n White says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Saint. wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote: Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.
Shock horror! NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club!
I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him.
Yeah maybe Chanrai would have come in seeing as he's not going to get any of 'his' money back down the road, or maybe Matt Le Tissier's group which had no money, at least then we could still be playing the Skates I suppose. Maybe yu should speak to Aap3, a local business who Cortese chose when he could have chosen more lucrative and larger organisations for sponsorship. not everything he does is right, but a large majority is. have you ever met him or is this just based on what you've a supposedly read/heard?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.[/p][/quote]Shock horror! NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club![/p][/quote]I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him.[/p][/quote]Yeah maybe Chanrai would have come in seeing as he's not going to get any of 'his' money back down the road, or maybe Matt Le Tissier's group which had no money, at least then we could still be playing the Skates I suppose. Maybe yu should speak to Aap3, a local business who Cortese chose when he could have chosen more lucrative and larger organisations for sponsorship. not everything he does is right, but a large majority is. have you ever met him or is this just based on what you've a supposedly read/heard? Red n White

2:43pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

Red n White wrote:
once a saint wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess
You have obviously not read any other posts. If it was such a big deal why did they want to remain annonymous?
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]Did you just read the headline and skip straight to the NC bashing? If you actually read it, the quote says thanks to NC for sorting it out. This would imply that it wasn't his decision in the first place, but is making up for other people's mess[/p][/quote]You have obviously not read any other posts. If it was such a big deal why did they want to remain annonymous? once a saint

2:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.
Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help. OSPREYSAINT

2:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.
Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help. OSPREYSAINT

2:46pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault.
Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault. OSPREYSAINT

2:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

The egotistical, arrogant, Gerald Rattner, made the mistake of insulting his customers, by publicly announcing that the M&S sandwich he had for lunch would last longer than the cheap gold trinkets he sold to his customers.
The result, all the young ladies and their families boycotted Rattners and they went out of business.
The customer is King, no customers no business and that applies to a football club as much as it does to every other enterprise.
Ignore the customer's concerns at your peril, they pay everyone's wages and won't stand for being treated as plebs!
NC could learn a lot from Gerald Rattner's demise but I doubt that he will.
The egotistical, arrogant, Gerald Rattner, made the mistake of insulting his customers, by publicly announcing that the M&S sandwich he had for lunch would last longer than the cheap gold trinkets he sold to his customers. The result, all the young ladies and their families boycotted Rattners and they went out of business. The customer is King, no customers no business and that applies to a football club as much as it does to every other enterprise. Ignore the customer's concerns at your peril, they pay everyone's wages and won't stand for being treated as plebs! NC could learn a lot from Gerald Rattner's demise but I doubt that he will. TEBOURBA

2:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Ray the Don says...

Come on Red n White what the hell has this got to do with our enemies down the road??

you must be one of those Northam End worshipers who are as dim as their singing!!! get down to the facts the NC is a control freak & why have you not mentioned thet he drew double his wage last year than he should oh I forgot all this was expenses for his hard work yet he cos us by charging a admin fee of £1.50 per booking when buying our tickets.

Anyway I rest my case get your head out of your donkey & smell the real roses he is shafting us fans big time!!
Come on Red n White what the hell has this got to do with our enemies down the road?? you must be one of those Northam End worshipers who are as dim as their singing!!! get down to the facts the NC is a control freak & why have you not mentioned thet he drew double his wage last year than he should oh I forgot all this was expenses for his hard work yet he cos us by charging a admin fee of £1.50 per booking when buying our tickets. Anyway I rest my case get your head out of your donkey & smell the real roses he is shafting us fans big time!! Ray the Don

2:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

steveyot says...

I don't suppose that us mere mortal season ticket holders on the concourse could have coke and lemonade back on sale and perhaps even both exits open again at the end of the match. No thought not, getting fed up beng treated like herded sheep.
I don't suppose that us mere mortal season ticket holders on the concourse could have coke and lemonade back on sale and perhaps even both exits open again at the end of the match. No thought not, getting fed up beng treated like herded sheep. steveyot

3:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12

once a saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.
I respect your honesty and just hope that you can see that there are a lot of people unhappy with the way things are being run. Do not right them off as being Lowe lovers or NC haters we are simply fans who love our club and always have done through thick and thin. As I have said before in my eyes our saviour was ML and if we are not carefull then NC could harm the club beyond repair. The club is bigger than any one person and the decisions made from the top should always be in the best interests of the club. I have said enough today and my feelings are known so I will leave the floor for others to say their piece. I have read and taken onboard what has been said it is only right that we have the freedom to voice our opinions and whether I agree with them or not we all share the same common interest of SFC. COYR
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.[/p][/quote]I respect your honesty and just hope that you can see that there are a lot of people unhappy with the way things are being run. Do not right them off as being Lowe lovers or NC haters we are simply fans who love our club and always have done through thick and thin. As I have said before in my eyes our saviour was ML and if we are not carefull then NC could harm the club beyond repair. The club is bigger than any one person and the decisions made from the top should always be in the best interests of the club. I have said enough today and my feelings are known so I will leave the floor for others to say their piece. I have read and taken onboard what has been said it is only right that we have the freedom to voice our opinions and whether I agree with them or not we all share the same common interest of SFC. COYR once a saint

3:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I wasn't aware about the soft drink matter, what has happened? You can get drinks from the burger vans outside, but I think it's daft not to cater for that inside, not everyone wants overpriced alchoholic beverages. Sound like a Premier Club with amateur catering, that's not right, but I never use it myself so not really bothered. I still I cannot fathom the Programme selling issue, that was another own goal in my opinion, cannot find anyway to defend it, although I tried. I also don't like the OS web site it's very poor. I think the booking charges for buying tickets is wrong too. What else is going wrong, I am beginning to get a bit disillusioned, as I won't be able to afford a ST next year I will probably take up something more sedentary in future. Macrame is popular I hear?
I wasn't aware about the soft drink matter, what has happened? You can get drinks from the burger vans outside, but I think it's daft not to cater for that inside, not everyone wants overpriced alchoholic beverages. Sound like a Premier Club with amateur catering, that's not right, but I never use it myself so not really bothered. I still I cannot fathom the Programme selling issue, that was another own goal in my opinion, cannot find anyway to defend it, although I tried. I also don't like the OS web site it's very poor. I think the booking charges for buying tickets is wrong too. What else is going wrong, I am beginning to get a bit disillusioned, as I won't be able to afford a ST next year I will probably take up something more sedentary in future. Macrame is popular I hear? OSPREYSAINT

3:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

Once a saint Are you as your login suggests someone who used to go and watch games?

And can you explain to me how getting us from L1 with minus 10 and into the PL has in any way shape or form damaged OUR club

I want to watch MY team play at the highest possible level and I firmly believe that NC (hopefully with NA) will deliver to me,the customer, a team that will compete for a place at the top If you do not share that opinion then I suggest that you do what I did in the Lowe era and withdraw your support
Once a saint Are you as your login suggests someone who used to go and watch games? And can you explain to me how getting us from L1 with minus 10 and into the PL has in any way shape or form damaged OUR club I want to watch MY team play at the highest possible level and I firmly believe that NC (hopefully with NA) will deliver to me,the customer, a team that will compete for a place at the top If you do not share that opinion then I suggest that you do what I did in the Lowe era and withdraw your support Saintsayer II

3:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault.
Don't blame bt we all know its guly fox Davis NA and Nc s fault
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault.[/p][/quote]Don't blame bt we all know its guly fox Davis NA and Nc s fault saintand266

3:11pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ray the Don wrote:
Come on Red n White what the hell has this got to do with our enemies down the road??

you must be one of those Northam End worshipers who are as dim as their singing!!! get down to the facts the NC is a control freak & why have you not mentioned thet he drew double his wage last year than he should oh I forgot all this was expenses for his hard work yet he cos us by charging a admin fee of £1.50 per booking when buying our tickets.

Anyway I rest my case get your head out of your donkey & smell the real roses he is shafting us fans big time!!
I don't actually regard them as enemies, just a rival football club that's deep in the mire through no fault of the fans. I know they have their fair share of mongs who post carp on here and elsewhere, but in truth the majority are no different to us with a passion for their club. The fact that they are in trouble won't stop me taking the mick, but it is not through any kind of hatred, that's just not right. Their fate is none of my business, but I wish they could sort it out, one way or the other, it has gone on too long and God forbid we ever get dragged down again.
[quote][p][bold]Ray the Don[/bold] wrote: Come on Red n White what the hell has this got to do with our enemies down the road?? you must be one of those Northam End worshipers who are as dim as their singing!!! get down to the facts the NC is a control freak & why have you not mentioned thet he drew double his wage last year than he should oh I forgot all this was expenses for his hard work yet he cos us by charging a admin fee of £1.50 per booking when buying our tickets. Anyway I rest my case get your head out of your donkey & smell the real roses he is shafting us fans big time!![/p][/quote]I don't actually regard them as enemies, just a rival football club that's deep in the mire through no fault of the fans. I know they have their fair share of mongs who post carp on here and elsewhere, but in truth the majority are no different to us with a passion for their club. The fact that they are in trouble won't stop me taking the mick, but it is not through any kind of hatred, that's just not right. Their fate is none of my business, but I wish they could sort it out, one way or the other, it has gone on too long and God forbid we ever get dragged down again. OSPREYSAINT

3:11pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

steveyot wrote:
I don't suppose that us mere mortal season ticket holders on the concourse could have coke and lemonade back on sale and perhaps even both exits open again at the end of the match. No thought not, getting fed up beng treated like herded sheep.
Not being one to buy soft drinks I was unaware of this in the Itchen Is it throughout the ground? if so that is a total disgrace
[quote][p][bold]steveyot[/bold] wrote: I don't suppose that us mere mortal season ticket holders on the concourse could have coke and lemonade back on sale and perhaps even both exits open again at the end of the match. No thought not, getting fed up beng treated like herded sheep.[/p][/quote]Not being one to buy soft drinks I was unaware of this in the Itchen Is it throughout the ground? if so that is a total disgrace Saintsayer II

3:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault.
Don't blame bt we all know its guly fox Davis NA and Nc s fault
lol a double post, are you on Guly broadband too?
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Sorry about the double posting, my Broadband connection is playing up today, BT/AOL fault.[/p][/quote]Don't blame bt we all know its guly fox Davis NA and Nc s fault[/p][/quote]lol a double post, are you on Guly broadband too? OSPREYSAINT

3:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

franiow says...

We were about to go out of business if ML and NC hadn't come in for us. It was a close call. We wouldn't have drifted on and on like Pompey, because we have assets. We could have been bought by an asset stripper not interested in running a football club which let's face it can be a thankless task.

Do I think NC gets everything right? No. Do I think he has sentimental feelings for us supporters. Probably not. Is he a nice man? No idea, possibly not. Will Saints do well under his care? So far so very good. From administration to PL in 3 years...he'll do for me.
We were about to go out of business if ML and NC hadn't come in for us. It was a close call. We wouldn't have drifted on and on like Pompey, because we have assets. We could have been bought by an asset stripper not interested in running a football club which let's face it can be a thankless task. Do I think NC gets everything right? No. Do I think he has sentimental feelings for us supporters. Probably not. Is he a nice man? No idea, possibly not. Will Saints do well under his care? So far so very good. From administration to PL in 3 years...he'll do for me. franiow

3:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

franiow says...

We were about to go out of business if ML and NC hadn't come in for us. It was a close call. We wouldn't have drifted on and on like Pompey, because we have assets. We could have been bought by an asset stripper not interested in running a football club which let's face it can be a thankless task.

Do I think NC gets everything right? No. Do I think he has sentimental feelings for us supporters. Probably not. Is he a nice man? No idea, possibly not. Will Saints do well under his care? So far so very good. From administration to PL in 3 years...he'll do for me.
We were about to go out of business if ML and NC hadn't come in for us. It was a close call. We wouldn't have drifted on and on like Pompey, because we have assets. We could have been bought by an asset stripper not interested in running a football club which let's face it can be a thankless task. Do I think NC gets everything right? No. Do I think he has sentimental feelings for us supporters. Probably not. Is he a nice man? No idea, possibly not. Will Saints do well under his care? So far so very good. From administration to PL in 3 years...he'll do for me. franiow

3:18pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

It is odd that not so long ago the Blue Phew were giving us a lot of grief about winning the Paint Pot, how the tables have turned, they are getting quite excited about beating Wycombe tonight!
Good luck to them.
It is odd that not so long ago the Blue Phew were giving us a lot of grief about winning the Paint Pot, how the tables have turned, they are getting quite excited about beating Wycombe tonight! Good luck to them. OSPREYSAINT

3:22pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book! TEBOURBA

3:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

once a saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Ms Mahoney wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.
Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?
On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.
Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?
I am sorry Osprey you are obviously a bed buddy of NC and I did not mean to tread on your feelings. I respect those who show respect and it is clear from his actions that NC has no respect for fans or staff of the club. My concerns have fallen on deaf ears as yes I have raised issues with the club. I have no agenda believe it or not there are some fans capable of making up their own minds. I have always been a Saints fan and when I see "our club" being mishandled I am not going to let it go quietly.
You have my full support in preventing our Club from being mishandled, there obviously are a number of issues, how do we go about it is the question, just slagging off NC isn't the answer, there must be other ways of approaching it, ideas anyone? One of the biggest problems is a lack of a bridge of communication between the Club and its fans, so little comes our way that we tend to grasp at straws, what isn't known tends to be made up and often incorrect. That is not Premier Class.
[quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ms Mahoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Wake up and smell the coffee as much as you would like to believe the Echo is the baddie the truth is we have no say in anything that goes on at Saints. Look at what has happened recently, programme sellers being replaced by dolly birds, work on the training ground being stopped without any reason why, massive overseas loan taken out to purchase players, is this really down to "lower management"?! Like SaintsBTGOG says Saints is run by one person and he is so self obsessed he does not care what we think. Why do you think the Saints Customer Service is so bad? simply because he treats everyone like they are no better than dirt on his shoe Nocola is not good for our club and the quicker people realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Why do you think that you should have a say in anything that goes on at Saints?[/p][/quote]On a personal level I have no more of a say in how the club should be run than the next person but as a collective voice Nocola should listen to what the fans want. We want programmes sold by fans who love the club a soft drink at half time and ticket office staff that are happy to help. In answer to Osprey you must be deluded to think that all is rosey at Saints behind the scenes I have heard many stories from many sources about the way NC behaves. It all seems to have gone wrong since the sad passing of ML who is the true saviour of the club.NA has to say positve things about NC otherwise he will be out the door, how many league managers call it as they see it? If anyone saw Simon Jordan on Sky the other night they will have had an insight into what does happen behind the scenes. I respect everyone has a right to voice their opinion all I am doing is voicing my concerns over Nocola.[/p][/quote]Why should I listen to someone who hasn't enough respect to spell his name correctly, I appreciate the concerns, there are things going on that are definitely not right, have you contacted the Club with your concerns or do you just blow your trumpet on web sites? Are you a Lowe lover from the past with issues, or MLT fan who is a bit disgruntled about that spat? Or have you another agenda?[/p][/quote]I am sorry Osprey you are obviously a bed buddy of NC and I did not mean to tread on your feelings. I respect those who show respect and it is clear from his actions that NC has no respect for fans or staff of the club. My concerns have fallen on deaf ears as yes I have raised issues with the club. I have no agenda believe it or not there are some fans capable of making up their own minds. I have always been a Saints fan and when I see "our club" being mishandled I am not going to let it go quietly.[/p][/quote]You have my full support in preventing our Club from being mishandled, there obviously are a number of issues, how do we go about it is the question, just slagging off NC isn't the answer, there must be other ways of approaching it, ideas anyone? One of the biggest problems is a lack of a bridge of communication between the Club and its fans, so little comes our way that we tend to grasp at straws, what isn't known tends to be made up and often incorrect. That is not Premier Class. OSPREYSAINT

3:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
Cut it out TB it's not clever, you making yourself look stupid.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]Cut it out TB it's not clever, you making yourself look stupid. OSPREYSAINT

3:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12

swesaint says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
The egotistical, arrogant, Gerald Rattner, made the mistake of insulting his customers, by publicly announcing that the M&S sandwich he had for lunch would last longer than the cheap gold trinkets he sold to his customers.
The result, all the young ladies and their families boycotted Rattners and they went out of business.
The customer is King, no customers no business and that applies to a football club as much as it does to every other enterprise.
Ignore the customer's concerns at your peril, they pay everyone's wages and won't stand for being treated as plebs!
NC could learn a lot from Gerald Rattner's demise but I doubt that he will.
So you think noone will show up next match because of some conspiracy theories?
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The egotistical, arrogant, Gerald Rattner, made the mistake of insulting his customers, by publicly announcing that the M&S sandwich he had for lunch would last longer than the cheap gold trinkets he sold to his customers. The result, all the young ladies and their families boycotted Rattners and they went out of business. The customer is King, no customers no business and that applies to a football club as much as it does to every other enterprise. Ignore the customer's concerns at your peril, they pay everyone's wages and won't stand for being treated as plebs! NC could learn a lot from Gerald Rattner's demise but I doubt that he will.[/p][/quote]So you think noone will show up next match because of some conspiracy theories? swesaint

3:36pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
Emotive language, doesn't help resolve anything.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]Emotive language, doesn't help resolve anything. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

3:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12

AdrianSmith says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
AdrianSmith wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.
Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen
Did they report the great work then went into the ramirez deal did they go into the great work on the training ground no they would rather speculate about a loan and speculate about builders downing tools my point is fans have this as there news point and all they see is the echo slag cortese off so they slag cortese off. My boss is a p***k but he is my boss people up that ground say he is a control freak well the club got into the premier league in 3 years under his guidance. Look at forest Wednesday and Leicester we have a gem in nic.
Er, yeah, they did. They report on what happens at the club, good and bad. It's what newspapers do.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AdrianSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: More abuse being thrown at cortese again from the echo I see. Next up cortese picks the team. Echo have a day off I don't see the OS banging on about how bad the echo is. Stick to writing match reports and injury updates. Stop getting involved in the politics of the club.[/p][/quote]Newspapers report on what happens. That's their job. Its not their role to keep you happy by pretending things dont happen[/p][/quote]Did they report the great work then went into the ramirez deal did they go into the great work on the training ground no they would rather speculate about a loan and speculate about builders downing tools my point is fans have this as there news point and all they see is the echo slag cortese off so they slag cortese off. My boss is a p***k but he is my boss people up that ground say he is a control freak well the club got into the premier league in 3 years under his guidance. Look at forest Wednesday and Leicester we have a gem in nic.[/p][/quote]Er, yeah, they did. They report on what happens at the club, good and bad. It's what newspapers do. AdrianSmith

4:18pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

I honestly think that these 'issues' have come about due to the Club restructuring aspects of the business a bit too quickly.

If you remember we had a five-year plan to get back to the Premier League. We did it in three. This has meant that the business management side of the Club is having to restructure things to be of a Premier League standard sooner than they would have prepared for.

Some aspects of the business have suffered because of the speed of our success. The Club is having to think on its feet and learn on the job, which has caused a few teething problems.

The Club's strategy was to use the five years to implement its changes slowly and in good time for our arrival in the Premiership, but now we're having to do it on the fly and perhaps a little unprepared.

I very much doubt that it was anybody at the Club's idea to stop selling soft drinks (soft drinks are subject to a huge, profitable mark-up - much more money in soft drinks than booze in fact), so I expect that the supplier's contract ran out and they are busy trying to sort another one (or something similar). There's really no conspiracy there.

As for the other issues, again it's probably just a case of the odd slip up from being a little unprepared for how quickly we made it to the promised land.
I honestly think that these 'issues' have come about due to the Club restructuring aspects of the business a bit too quickly. If you remember we had a five-year plan to get back to the Premier League. We did it in three. This has meant that the business management side of the Club is having to restructure things to be of a Premier League standard sooner than they would have prepared for. Some aspects of the business have suffered because of the speed of our success. The Club is having to think on its feet and learn on the job, which has caused a few teething problems. The Club's strategy was to use the five years to implement its changes slowly and in good time for our arrival in the Premiership, but now we're having to do it on the fly and perhaps a little unprepared. I very much doubt that it was anybody at the Club's idea to stop selling soft drinks (soft drinks are subject to a huge, profitable mark-up - much more money in soft drinks than booze in fact), so I expect that the supplier's contract ran out and they are busy trying to sort another one (or something similar). There's really no conspiracy there. As for the other issues, again it's probably just a case of the odd slip up from being a little unprepared for how quickly we made it to the promised land. Sainty saint saint

4:45pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Folkestone Saint says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
So we who go to the Northam are mong's, I run two businesses my wife is taking her Masters in Nursing my daughter is at Uni and my son has just started his A levels including math's, at least we sing and create a fantastic atmosphere and SUPPORT our team rather than just sit there and moan if a pass goes wide.
By the way we have not taken out a loan, as NC has contacts he has put something in place, and why not Sunseeker no difference to Audi at OT,
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]So we who go to the Northam are mong's, I run two businesses my wife is taking her Masters in Nursing my daughter is at Uni and my son has just started his A levels including math's, at least we sing and create a fantastic atmosphere and SUPPORT our team rather than just sit there and moan if a pass goes wide. By the way we have not taken out a loan, as NC has contacts he has put something in place, and why not Sunseeker no difference to Audi at OT, Folkestone Saint

4:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Confucious says...

It's the opener on ITV News tonight - heard a preview.

"The people of Southampton are in shock and dismay after discovering that Southampton Football Club corporate customers will have to put up with a buffet and no Coca Cola is on sale in the stadium.

"Angry fans are in uproar at the appalling handling of the club by the dictatorial Nicola 'Stalin' Cortese.

Many fans of Portsmouth FC have been posting on their local forum saying "Thank God it isn't us."
It's the opener on ITV News tonight - heard a preview. "The people of Southampton are in shock and dismay after discovering that Southampton Football Club corporate customers will have to put up with a buffet and no Coca Cola is on sale in the stadium. "Angry fans are in uproar at the appalling handling of the club by the dictatorial Nicola 'Stalin' Cortese. Many fans of Portsmouth FC have been posting on their local forum saying "Thank God it isn't us." Confucious

4:49pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

i am not a northam end `mong, idiot, happy clapper` that some have called people who like what NC has done for our club. to call people who support saint that is just wrong!
what i am is a saints supporter who happens to think that NC has done wonders, yes hes made mistakes but then who hasnt! (sorry forgot about the boooorer).
if you dont like the way the club is run dont go! its that simple. i didnt go to games when the dark lord came back, my choice!
what you dont do is have a go at saints fans who show their support by cheering and shouting for the team!
i am not a northam end `mong, idiot, happy clapper` that some have called people who like what NC has done for our club. to call people who support saint that is just wrong! what i am is a saints supporter who happens to think that NC has done wonders, yes hes made mistakes but then who hasnt! (sorry forgot about the boooorer). if you dont like the way the club is run dont go! its that simple. i didnt go to games when the dark lord came back, my choice! what you dont do is have a go at saints fans who show their support by cheering and shouting for the team! saintshorse101

4:51pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

As usual Tebourba graces us with his wisdom -NC a weasel ? Though some of his business decisions may not go down well with everyone ,he was the one who advised Markus into buying our club when we were on our knees , he is the one who has been the driving force in our rise from third tier football to the premier league quicker than any of us thought possible and he okayd the spending of a lot of money to strengthen our squad . Without him at the helm where would we be ?
As usual Tebourba graces us with his wisdom -NC a weasel ? Though some of his business decisions may not go down well with everyone ,he was the one who advised Markus into buying our club when we were on our knees , he is the one who has been the driving force in our rise from third tier football to the premier league quicker than any of us thought possible and he okayd the spending of a lot of money to strengthen our squad . Without him at the helm where would we be ? saintand266

5:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

Another long thread about not much in particular. But another chance for people to manipulate the thread to vent their spleen about NC.

I nearly joined in earlier in supprt of the man but actually on reflection I really don't care about this story. NCs willingness to reverse a decision shows flexibility and an understanding that he doesnt want to upset these box holders. Nothing wrong with that. Standard Corporate PR.

The simple fact is that if we had won a few more games this season we wouldn't give a flying fig for what was happening in the Corporate booze hutches.

The result of our poor start is that the fans are edgy, restless, worried etc etc. In some this brings out the Dunkirk spirit AND TO ALL OF THOSE I SALUTE YOU. In others it brings out their inner short sighted doom ghoul streak and they think that change is all you need. These weak wimps change their mind after two good results and then deny they ever had a bad word to say.

From what I have read above the usual parties have once again shown their integrity and the snivelling weak have yet again shown their true colours.
Another long thread about not much in particular. But another chance for people to manipulate the thread to vent their spleen about NC. I nearly joined in earlier in supprt of the man but actually on reflection I really don't care about this story. NCs willingness to reverse a decision shows flexibility and an understanding that he doesnt want to upset these box holders. Nothing wrong with that. Standard Corporate PR. The simple fact is that if we had won a few more games this season we wouldn't give a flying fig for what was happening in the Corporate booze hutches. The result of our poor start is that the fans are edgy, restless, worried etc etc. In some this brings out the Dunkirk spirit AND TO ALL OF THOSE I SALUTE YOU. In others it brings out their inner short sighted doom ghoul streak and they think that change is all you need. These weak wimps change their mind after two good results and then deny they ever had a bad word to say. From what I have read above the usual parties have once again shown their integrity and the snivelling weak have yet again shown their true colours. Alicesdad

5:08pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

I blame Guly for getting one of the most prestigious manufacturer of boats in the world as a sponsor , I just hope they know that now he has sat on one of their seats that they will be out of business within a year !
I blame Guly for getting one of the most prestigious manufacturer of boats in the world as a sponsor , I just hope they know that now he has sat on one of their seats that they will be out of business within a year ! saintand266

5:28pm Tue 9 Oct 12

pokersaint76 says...

60k for a box !!
Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game
Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person
NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!!
60k for a box !! Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!! pokersaint76

5:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12

pokersaint76 says...

pokersaint76 wrote:
60k for a box !!
Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game
Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person
NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!!
PLUS 20% VAT !!
[quote][p][bold]pokersaint76[/bold] wrote: 60k for a box !! Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!![/p][/quote]PLUS 20% VAT !! pokersaint76

5:40pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saint. says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Saint. wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT

Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely.

I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.
Shock horror!

NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club!
I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him.
I am sure you can!

From what I recall we did not have many options at the crictical time, and no one with the money and class of ML and his offer! What's wrong with you man! No it would not been somebody else who cleared our debts and invested in the club at many levels and with a plan. A plan they smashed!

Look at poopey and Coventry to see what sort of investment we might of ended up with if we were lucky. No mate we been blessed with ML/NC and if your a true Saints fan you should count your blessings. We are the fifth rich club in this country!

As for no one likes him comment. Don't make me laugh you can not possible know enough at the club to make that call, and the few you know most likely do not like change!

Not a good word, tell me what he has promised he has not delievered on?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Osprey, nothing happens at SMS unless Cortese says. FACT Hes a total and utter control freak which extends to the job that Adkins should be doing solely. I'm only surprised that there was 70 odd faces to move ! the hospitality area has crashed and burned since Cortese thinks he knows more than those that had been doing the job for years. Dozens of empty hosp boxes and projected income of over £1m will be lost this season.[/p][/quote]Shock horror! NC controls everything at Southampton FC! That's his job, and if not for him we might not have a club!! As for the NA comment, this is gossip and speculation, and no one but NC and NA knows for sure. But I hope NC is keeping to his word and looking for big success for Southampton F.C. and if so this is being close to the grass roots of what the team is doing and which results on NC finding what we need as a club to succeed first hand! Added to this NA is not short on praising NC at every opputunity on everything the man is doing for our club![/p][/quote]I could talk for hrs on how Cortese has damaged the club with his actions. Also this 'saved the club' line holds no value. If it wasnt him, it would of been someone else. Hes the chairman, but shouldnt be behaving in a 'me, me, me' way. Ive never met anyone at SMS that has a good word to say about him.[/p][/quote]I am sure you can! From what I recall we did not have many options at the crictical time, and no one with the money and class of ML and his offer! What's wrong with you man! No it would not been somebody else who cleared our debts and invested in the club at many levels and with a plan. A plan they smashed! Look at poopey and Coventry to see what sort of investment we might of ended up with if we were lucky. No mate we been blessed with ML/NC and if your a true Saints fan you should count your blessings. We are the fifth rich club in this country! As for no one likes him comment. Don't make me laugh you can not possible know enough at the club to make that call, and the few you know most likely do not like change! Not a good word, tell me what he has promised he has not delievered on? Saint.

5:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Block41row0sfc says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money.

Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?
How do you know it's a massive loan everton have had a few loans with this company do you think bill kenwright runs everton like a cowboy
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: If Cortese was soo super doper like the northam mongs think. Then why have we taken a massive loan from a offshore party ? I thought he was MR ITK and knew loads of people with money. Just why are sunseeker a sponsor ?[/p][/quote]How do you know it's a massive loan everton have had a few loans with this company do you think bill kenwright runs everton like a cowboy Block41row0sfc

5:48pm Tue 9 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
good post
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]good post CB FRY LIVES

5:51pm Tue 9 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
once a saint wrote:
Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?
From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?
Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves.
at least he has backed down on this one.when is he going to let us have a fans forum via RADIO SOLENT.lets keep the pressure up.come on you CandA red and white army.we rule the solent.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]once a saint[/bold] wrote: Do you really believe that it was a lower management decision? From what I have heard what No(Coca)Cola Cortese wants Nocola gets. If the boxes were priced better then they would sell better, not rocket science they are looking old and tired and although we are PL we are languishing at the bottom so who in these tough economic times is going to pay £60K to sit like a battery chicken in a corporate box?[/p][/quote]From what you have heard? Gossip, rumour, mischief making?[/p][/quote]Osprey you must be a club pr or something. Its well known in the city what Cortese is like and how he behaves.[/p][/quote]at least he has backed down on this one.when is he going to let us have a fans forum via RADIO SOLENT.lets keep the pressure up.come on you CandA red and white army.we rule the solent. CB FRY LIVES

5:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEBOURBA

6:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish. OSPREYSAINT

6:21pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Laughing at all the alleged Saints fans who as usual have had a field day slagging NC off, the DE 'feeds them' constantly and holy 'mackerel' do they like to 'bite'. So many issues with him yet they never acknowledge all he has done for us, the constant 'carping' raises deep suspicion, all they spout is nott arF kraP!
Laughing at all the alleged Saints fans who as usual have had a field day slagging NC off, the DE 'feeds them' constantly and holy 'mackerel' do they like to 'bite'. So many issues with him yet they never acknowledge all he has done for us, the constant 'carping' raises deep suspicion, all they spout is nott arF kraP! Tye-Dye pt2

6:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the programme sellers were employees who were unfairly sacked why don't they sue for unfair dismissal ? They were not employees they volunteered to sell programs for a small amount of cash and free entry to sms, selling programs is not a job , admittedly NC could have handed it better it is his choice as chairman as is arranging a loan to use if needed to strengthen our squad in January , I think you have mentioned in posts before we need a couple of defenders and he you want quality you need to spend reasonabley big to get that quality .
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]If the programme sellers were employees who were unfairly sacked why don't they sue for unfair dismissal ? They were not employees they volunteered to sell programs for a small amount of cash and free entry to sms, selling programs is not a job , admittedly NC could have handed it better it is his choice as chairman as is arranging a loan to use if needed to strengthen our squad in January , I think you have mentioned in posts before we need a couple of defenders and he you want quality you need to spend reasonabley big to get that quality . saintand266

6:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the program sellers were not employees so not similar at all , you do spout some rubbish !
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]the program sellers were not employees so not similar at all , you do spout some rubbish ! slugger

6:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
good post
No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]good post[/p][/quote]No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules. OSPREYSAINT

6:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
good post
No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules.
it's also inaccurate (like the majority of his bile) ...... it wasn't "the powerful owners of corporate boxes flexing their muscles" .... it was people from the markus liebherr lounge protesting about being moved to boxes ..... i say again terbourba "you do spout some rubbish" .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]good post[/p][/quote]No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules.[/p][/quote]it's also inaccurate (like the majority of his bile) ...... it wasn't "the powerful owners of corporate boxes flexing their muscles" .... it was people from the markus liebherr lounge protesting about being moved to boxes ..... i say again terbourba "you do spout some rubbish" . slugger

6:40pm Tue 9 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends? thomasupton

6:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You can join if you like, it won't cost you anything, got any positive thoughts?
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You can join if you like, it won't cost you anything, got any positive thoughts? OSPREYSAINT

6:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down!
you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down!
what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again!
what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s.
what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?
Superb post saintshorse101.

I feel You have got it spot on.

I don't believe for one second that Nigel Adkins is a man to be pushed around, there is a steal determination in his character. He comes across very well, but for anyone to get as far as he has in his career it is because he has that strength and determination.

NA seems like a real nice guy, but I think at times we have seen that look of anger in him when players under performs, he is one if the greats at sticking with players in public, but from his demeanour at times you can guess that he is probably quite different behind the scenes when he needs to be.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down! you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down! what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again! what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s. what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?[/p][/quote]Superb post saintshorse101. I feel You have got it spot on. I don't believe for one second that Nigel Adkins is a man to be pushed around, there is a steal determination in his character. He comes across very well, but for anyone to get as far as he has in his career it is because he has that strength and determination. NA seems like a real nice guy, but I think at times we have seen that look of anger in him when players under performs, he is one if the greats at sticking with players in public, but from his demeanour at times you can guess that he is probably quite different behind the scenes when he needs to be. randre

6:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

pokersaint76 wrote:
pokersaint76 wrote:
60k for a box !!
Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game
Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person
NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!!
PLUS 20% VAT !!
You are only jealous, can't get my Pension to match it otherwise I would give a whirl myself.
[quote][p][bold]pokersaint76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pokersaint76[/bold] wrote: 60k for a box !! Divided by 19 games = 3157 per game Divided by 10 people 315.70 per person NO WONDER THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT !!!!!![/p][/quote]PLUS 20% VAT !![/p][/quote]You are only jealous, can't get my Pension to match it otherwise I would give a whirl myself. OSPREYSAINT

6:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
bore off non fan .
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]bore off non fan . slugger

6:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
the booorer what has ML`s history got anything to do with this? you are deluded and pathetic! ML did put his money into saint and he did continue his fathers business with his siblings upon his fathers death, that is just about the only things you have ever posted that is right! for your infomation ML gave nearly all of his shares in the family business BACK to the family and started his OWN group of companies, the Mali Group, in 1994! if you are going to continue to post at least get your facts right!
your jealousy of saints and the way it has been run since admin is showing through in all of your posts! when channers comes back to rip your club apart i think that thats what you as a person deserve! you are a sad little skate wum whos only enjoyment, as you cant get any from your team at the moment, is from going on your rivals local paper site and pretending to be a fan, whilst constantly having a go at the chair and the manager, oh and the fans when you think you can get away with it! you dont fool me! you have been caught out more than once with your lack of knowledge regarding saints and the transfer window and the lack of a loan window! all saints fans knew there was no loan window in the prem yet you kept calling for loans to be brought in! the info you pretend to know about saints is easily found on the web! you also kept telling us about your superior intellect, yet failed to inform us of any qualifications when asked (more than once).
if you put as much into supporting your own club as you do pretending to be a saint you may just save poopey, go back to poopey and prepare for channers! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]the booorer what has ML`s history got anything to do with this? you are deluded and pathetic! ML did put his money into saint and he did continue his fathers business with his siblings upon his fathers death, that is just about the only things you have ever posted that is right! for your infomation ML gave nearly all of his shares in the family business BACK to the family and started his OWN group of companies, the Mali Group, in 1994! if you are going to continue to post at least get your facts right! your jealousy of saints and the way it has been run since admin is showing through in all of your posts! when channers comes back to rip your club apart i think that thats what you as a person deserve! you are a sad little skate wum whos only enjoyment, as you cant get any from your team at the moment, is from going on your rivals local paper site and pretending to be a fan, whilst constantly having a go at the chair and the manager, oh and the fans when you think you can get away with it! you dont fool me! you have been caught out more than once with your lack of knowledge regarding saints and the transfer window and the lack of a loan window! all saints fans knew there was no loan window in the prem yet you kept calling for loans to be brought in! the info you pretend to know about saints is easily found on the web! you also kept telling us about your superior intellect, yet failed to inform us of any qualifications when asked (more than once). if you put as much into supporting your own club as you do pretending to be a saint you may just save poopey, go back to poopey and prepare for channers! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! saintshorse101

7:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option. OSPREYSAINT

7:03pm Tue 9 Oct 12

franiow says...

Getting to the PL was a huge achievement and probably generated huge bonuses for NC, NA, and players. I doubt NC took anything he wasn't entitled to. Saints is a private company and the Leihberr's can pay Cortese anything they like.
Getting to the PL was a huge achievement and probably generated huge bonuses for NC, NA, and players. I doubt NC took anything he wasn't entitled to. Saints is a private company and the Leihberr's can pay Cortese anything they like. franiow

7:03pm Tue 9 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
bore off non fan .
Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]bore off non fan .[/p][/quote]Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today. thomasupton

7:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
bore off non fan .
Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today.
Come on Wycombe
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]bore off non fan .[/p][/quote]Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today.[/p][/quote]Come on Wycombe Baddesley Bill

7:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
bore off non fan .
Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today.
Can we stick to the discussion and leave the personal stuff out for one night, it is important to know what people really feel, I would hate to think that there is a majority for change at this critical time of asking. Disruption now would, in my opinion be catastrophic, surely minor problems about Programme sellers, Posh people in suites, and soft drink sales are not as important as the overall future of the Club.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]bore off non fan .[/p][/quote]Evening slug, bet you and you're fellow "positive" posters must be on the edge of nervous breakdowns with all this "negativity" around today.[/p][/quote]Can we stick to the discussion and leave the personal stuff out for one night, it is important to know what people really feel, I would hate to think that there is a majority for change at this critical time of asking. Disruption now would, in my opinion be catastrophic, surely minor problems about Programme sellers, Posh people in suites, and soft drink sales are not as important as the overall future of the Club. OSPREYSAINT

7:12pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

to all those who doubt NC i say this, if ML trusted this man in the manner he did then he cant be that bad! for those of you who dont know or cant be bothered to reasearch because you dont like NC, look at this piece of infomation:
In July 2009, Cortese conducted the deal to buy Southampton, then in administration, for Markus Liebherr, a German-born, Swiss-based industrialist. Following the completion of the purchase, Liebherr realised that his newly-acquired business had no senior management structure, and invited Cortese to take the role of Executive Chairman, with the principal role of developing the long term strategy for the football club and the business. Cortese was appointed a director of Southampton Football Club Limited on 1 August 2009.

At the time of the appointment, Liebherr commented:

Nicola has been pivotal in conceiving the purchase of the Club and making it happen. I am now delighted to entrust him with overseeing the Club's progress, development and achievement of success over the long term. Nicola and I have enjoyed a long business relationship and it was Nicola who convinced me about buying the Club. He then conducted what proved to be a very difficult process very expertly and professionally. Ultimately, it happened because Nicola was at all times focused on strong business and ethical principles. Since our early conversations about the deal I made it clear that I would only buy the Club if he remained involved following the purchase. I am therefore very happy that he has accepted the role as Executive Chairman.

On accepting the appointment, Cortese said:

I have been running the Club as Markus' representative since 8 July and a good start has been made in recruiting well regarded senior staff and our new First Team Manager, who have begun putting together the strategies for on and off field success. But it is only a start. We have been reviewing, and will continue to review, every aspect of the Club. We will be applying policies to our football team, commercial operations, financial structures, community work and fan communications which ensure that we run as a first-in-class football club and business.

I realise that there are great expectations and I will ensure that every effort is expended to meet these expectations, but effectively we need to restructure and create a solid base from which we can build and become successful. This will take time. We will take our example from our supporters, who already are what we aim to become – Premier League. With their support we will again become a Premier League Club. The supporters, the City of Southampton and the region deserve nothing less. Everyone at the Club will be fully committed to responding to this great challenge
ML put all of his faith and a great deal of money behind NC and like it or not without NC we would now be talking about AFCsouthampton
to all those who doubt NC i say this, if ML trusted this man in the manner he did then he cant be that bad! for those of you who dont know or cant be bothered to reasearch because you dont like NC, look at this piece of infomation: In July 2009, Cortese conducted the deal to buy Southampton, then in administration, for Markus Liebherr, a German-born, Swiss-based industrialist.[3] Following the completion of the purchase, Liebherr realised that his newly-acquired business had no senior management structure, and invited Cortese to take the role of Executive Chairman, with the principal role of developing the long term strategy for the football club and the business.[4] Cortese was appointed a director of Southampton Football Club Limited on 1 August 2009. At the time of the appointment, Liebherr commented: Nicola has been pivotal in conceiving the purchase of the Club and making it happen. I am now delighted to entrust him with overseeing the Club's progress, development and achievement of success over the long term. Nicola and I have enjoyed a long business relationship and it was Nicola who convinced me about buying the Club. He then conducted what proved to be a very difficult process very expertly and professionally. Ultimately, it happened because Nicola was at all times focused on strong business and ethical principles. Since our early conversations about the deal I made it clear that I would only buy the Club if he remained involved following the purchase. I am therefore very happy that he has accepted the role as Executive Chairman.[2] On accepting the appointment, Cortese said: I have been running the Club as Markus' representative since 8 July and a good start has been made in recruiting well regarded senior staff and our new First Team Manager, who have begun putting together the strategies for on and off field success. But it is only a start. We have been reviewing, and will continue to review, every aspect of the Club. We will be applying policies to our football team, commercial operations, financial structures, community work and fan communications which ensure that we run as a first-in-class football club and business. I realise that there are great expectations and I will ensure that every effort is expended to meet these expectations, but effectively we need to restructure and create a solid base from which we can build and become successful. This will take time. We will take our example from our supporters, who already are what we aim to become – Premier League. With their support we will again become a Premier League Club. The supporters, the City of Southampton and the region deserve nothing less. Everyone at the Club will be fully committed to responding to this great challenge ML put all of his faith and a great deal of money behind NC and like it or not without NC we would now be talking about AFCsouthampton saintshorse101

7:14pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
Most of my blinkered friends as you call them probably work for a living and post when they are able, me I have just retired and have idle time on my hands. Being accused of being a PR person for NC today really made my day, that is something I wouldn't mind earning a crust at, but I don't think I am quite up to it.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]Most of my blinkered friends as you call them probably work for a living and post when they are able, me I have just retired and have idle time on my hands. Being accused of being a PR person for NC today really made my day, that is something I wouldn't mind earning a crust at, but I don't think I am quite up to it. OSPREYSAINT

7:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Good news for Newcastle their ground is going back to being St James Park again thanks to their new sponsors. Common sense prevails.
Good news for Newcastle their ground is going back to being St James Park again thanks to their new sponsors. Common sense prevails. OSPREYSAINT

7:22pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sky guy just said welcome to a wet, windy and miserable Fratton Park, some things never change.
Sky guy just said welcome to a wet, windy and miserable Fratton Park, some things never change. OSPREYSAINT

7:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
to all those who doubt NC i say this, if ML trusted this man in the manner he did then he cant be that bad! for those of you who dont know or cant be bothered to reasearch because you dont like NC, look at this piece of infomation:
In July 2009, Cortese conducted the deal to buy Southampton, then in administration, for Markus Liebherr, a German-born, Swiss-based industrialist. Following the completion of the purchase, Liebherr realised that his newly-acquired business had no senior management structure, and invited Cortese to take the role of Executive Chairman, with the principal role of developing the long term strategy for the football club and the business. Cortese was appointed a director of Southampton Football Club Limited on 1 August 2009.

At the time of the appointment, Liebherr commented:

Nicola has been pivotal in conceiving the purchase of the Club and making it happen. I am now delighted to entrust him with overseeing the Club's progress, development and achievement of success over the long term. Nicola and I have enjoyed a long business relationship and it was Nicola who convinced me about buying the Club. He then conducted what proved to be a very difficult process very expertly and professionally. Ultimately, it happened because Nicola was at all times focused on strong business and ethical principles. Since our early conversations about the deal I made it clear that I would only buy the Club if he remained involved following the purchase. I am therefore very happy that he has accepted the role as Executive Chairman.

On accepting the appointment, Cortese said:

I have been running the Club as Markus' representative since 8 July and a good start has been made in recruiting well regarded senior staff and our new First Team Manager, who have begun putting together the strategies for on and off field success. But it is only a start. We have been reviewing, and will continue to review, every aspect of the Club. We will be applying policies to our football team, commercial operations, financial structures, community work and fan communications which ensure that we run as a first-in-class football club and business.

I realise that there are great expectations and I will ensure that every effort is expended to meet these expectations, but effectively we need to restructure and create a solid base from which we can build and become successful. This will take time. We will take our example from our supporters, who already are what we aim to become – Premier League. With their support we will again become a Premier League Club. The supporters, the City of Southampton and the region deserve nothing less. Everyone at the Club will be fully committed to responding to this great challenge
ML put all of his faith and a great deal of money behind NC and like it or not without NC we would now be talking about AFCsouthampton
lest we forget ! ......... top post .
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: to all those who doubt NC i say this, if ML trusted this man in the manner he did then he cant be that bad! for those of you who dont know or cant be bothered to reasearch because you dont like NC, look at this piece of infomation: In July 2009, Cortese conducted the deal to buy Southampton, then in administration, for Markus Liebherr, a German-born, Swiss-based industrialist.[3] Following the completion of the purchase, Liebherr realised that his newly-acquired business had no senior management structure, and invited Cortese to take the role of Executive Chairman, with the principal role of developing the long term strategy for the football club and the business.[4] Cortese was appointed a director of Southampton Football Club Limited on 1 August 2009. At the time of the appointment, Liebherr commented: Nicola has been pivotal in conceiving the purchase of the Club and making it happen. I am now delighted to entrust him with overseeing the Club's progress, development and achievement of success over the long term. Nicola and I have enjoyed a long business relationship and it was Nicola who convinced me about buying the Club. He then conducted what proved to be a very difficult process very expertly and professionally. Ultimately, it happened because Nicola was at all times focused on strong business and ethical principles. Since our early conversations about the deal I made it clear that I would only buy the Club if he remained involved following the purchase. I am therefore very happy that he has accepted the role as Executive Chairman.[2] On accepting the appointment, Cortese said: I have been running the Club as Markus' representative since 8 July and a good start has been made in recruiting well regarded senior staff and our new First Team Manager, who have begun putting together the strategies for on and off field success. But it is only a start. We have been reviewing, and will continue to review, every aspect of the Club. We will be applying policies to our football team, commercial operations, financial structures, community work and fan communications which ensure that we run as a first-in-class football club and business. I realise that there are great expectations and I will ensure that every effort is expended to meet these expectations, but effectively we need to restructure and create a solid base from which we can build and become successful. This will take time. We will take our example from our supporters, who already are what we aim to become – Premier League. With their support we will again become a Premier League Club. The supporters, the City of Southampton and the region deserve nothing less. Everyone at the Club will be fully committed to responding to this great challenge ML put all of his faith and a great deal of money behind NC and like it or not without NC we would now be talking about AFCsouthampton[/p][/quote]lest we forget ! ......... top post . slugger

7:26pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
It's the opener on ITV News tonight - heard a preview.

"The people of Southampton are in shock and dismay after discovering that Southampton Football Club corporate customers will have to put up with a buffet and no Coca Cola is on sale in the stadium.

"Angry fans are in uproar at the appalling handling of the club by the dictatorial Nicola 'Stalin' Cortese.

Many fans of Portsmouth FC have been posting on their local forum saying "Thank God it isn't us."
Ha ha Priceless, well done Confucious restoring my faith in human kind.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It's the opener on ITV News tonight - heard a preview. "The people of Southampton are in shock and dismay after discovering that Southampton Football Club corporate customers will have to put up with a buffet and no Coca Cola is on sale in the stadium. "Angry fans are in uproar at the appalling handling of the club by the dictatorial Nicola 'Stalin' Cortese. Many fans of Portsmouth FC have been posting on their local forum saying "Thank God it isn't us."[/p][/quote]Ha ha Priceless, well done Confucious restoring my faith in human kind. OSPREYSAINT

7:39pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

I will always be a positive rather than a negative where Saints are concerned, the negatives lack spark and are never current, they come across a bit AC/DC? Rather than respect Watt NC's achieved they get angry & create con-'fusion'.......a
s for us positives we just go with the flow.
I will always be a positive rather than a negative where Saints are concerned, the negatives lack spark and are never current, they come across a bit AC/DC? Rather than respect Watt NC's achieved they get angry & create con-'fusion'.......a s for us positives we just go with the flow. Tye-Dye pt2

7:41pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.
I cannot believe I said Championship Football again, I, of course meant Champions League Football, pity no one spotted it at the time, could have said Championship is the more likely scenario the way things are going, hopefully we can turn that around in a couple of years, and gets the Silverware we really desire.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Wrong again, the nearest I have been to NC was at the Wembley Paint Pot win. I have no personal feelings about him other than the fact that he saved the Club, and continues to do so, that is my prime motive for defending him. Deluded maybe, but you will have to accept that about me, I have seen no evidence of corruption, no evidence of foul deeds, only a commitment to reach his aims of Championship Football with Southampton FC. Just because we are having a blip at the moment is no reason to lose the faith, in fact it is now when our support is needed more than ever, not by walking out before the end of a game, not by slagging the very people who are doing their best, and certainly not by creating a poisoned atmosphere around a Chairman who is our best chance of success. If you cannot see it that way, there is another team down M27 that could use your help.[/p][/quote]I cannot believe I said Championship Football again, I, of course meant Champions League Football, pity no one spotted it at the time, could have said Championship is the more likely scenario the way things are going, hopefully we can turn that around in a couple of years, and gets the Silverware we really desire. OSPREYSAINT

7:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck! dadofmy3sons

7:48pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsteve7 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Another long thread about not much in particular. But another chance for people to manipulate the thread to vent their spleen about NC.

I nearly joined in earlier in supprt of the man but actually on reflection I really don't care about this story. NCs willingness to reverse a decision shows flexibility and an understanding that he doesnt want to upset these box holders. Nothing wrong with that. Standard Corporate PR.

The simple fact is that if we had won a few more games this season we wouldn't give a flying fig for what was happening in the Corporate booze hutches.

The result of our poor start is that the fans are edgy, restless, worried etc etc. In some this brings out the Dunkirk spirit AND TO ALL OF THOSE I SALUTE YOU. In others it brings out their inner short sighted doom ghoul streak and they think that change is all you need. These weak wimps change their mind after two good results and then deny they ever had a bad word to say.

From what I have read above the usual parties have once again shown their integrity and the snivelling weak have yet again shown their true colours.
This!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Another long thread about not much in particular. But another chance for people to manipulate the thread to vent their spleen about NC. I nearly joined in earlier in supprt of the man but actually on reflection I really don't care about this story. NCs willingness to reverse a decision shows flexibility and an understanding that he doesnt want to upset these box holders. Nothing wrong with that. Standard Corporate PR. The simple fact is that if we had won a few more games this season we wouldn't give a flying fig for what was happening in the Corporate booze hutches. The result of our poor start is that the fans are edgy, restless, worried etc etc. In some this brings out the Dunkirk spirit AND TO ALL OF THOSE I SALUTE YOU. In others it brings out their inner short sighted doom ghoul streak and they think that change is all you need. These weak wimps change their mind after two good results and then deny they ever had a bad word to say. From what I have read above the usual parties have once again shown their integrity and the snivelling weak have yet again shown their true colours.[/p][/quote]This! Saintsteve7

7:50pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck![/p][/quote]I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place. Baddesley Bill

7:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wycombe went one up after 17 seconds
Wycombe went one up after 17 seconds OSPREYSAINT

7:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

How many of these people moaning about queueing up for a drink at half-time are the same people who leave 5 minutes early because they don't like queueing up to leave as well?
How many of these people had a drink before the ground, a drink in the stadium before the game, a drink at half-time and rushed out to the pub before the end to be sure to get in the bar before anyone else?
I drink when I go to the game at all these points in time and the only drink I have to rush is the half-time one because I only have a few minutes and refuse to miss one minute of the game I have paid to watch.
Do these same people also moan at the wife/whatever at home, because they have to wait 5 minutes for their meal to be put in front of them upon their return home?
Quite a lot of you need to look at yourselves and wonder how you are going to get served all at the same time without the aid of a time lapse machine !!!!!!
Support your club ?
Do you ?
How many of these people moaning about queueing up for a drink at half-time are the same people who leave 5 minutes early because they don't like queueing up to leave as well? How many of these people had a drink before the ground, a drink in the stadium before the game, a drink at half-time and rushed out to the pub before the end to be sure to get in the bar before anyone else? I drink when I go to the game at all these points in time and the only drink I have to rush is the half-time one because I only have a few minutes and refuse to miss one minute of the game I have paid to watch. Do these same people also moan at the wife/whatever at home, because they have to wait 5 minutes for their meal to be put in front of them upon their return home? Quite a lot of you need to look at yourselves and wonder how you are going to get served all at the same time without the aid of a time lapse machine !!!!!! Support your club ? Do you ? dadofmy3sons

8:02pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
I will always be a positive rather than a negative where Saints are concerned, the negatives lack spark and are never current, they come across a bit AC/DC? Rather than respect Watt NC's achieved they get angry & create con-'fusion'.......a

s for us positives we just go with the flow.
nice to see you posting again tye-dye , good here innit .
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: I will always be a positive rather than a negative where Saints are concerned, the negatives lack spark and are never current, they come across a bit AC/DC? Rather than respect Watt NC's achieved they get angry & create con-'fusion'.......a s for us positives we just go with the flow.[/p][/quote]nice to see you posting again tye-dye , good here innit . slugger

8:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC.
There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey.
Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC.
Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless.
No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC!
NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC. There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey. Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC. Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless. No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC! TEBOURBA

8:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
to be fair , i got a drink at half time no problem whatsoever (itchen south) and the lad that served me was smiling and polite .
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck![/p][/quote]to be fair , i got a drink at half time no problem whatsoever (itchen south) and the lad that served me was smiling and polite . slugger

8:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Poor old Pompey, losing 0 - 2 to the mighty Wycombe.
!7 seconds for the first goal and no Pompey player touched it !
Kuffour has already hit the post twice too!
Might just be too much for the bestest ever fans and quite expect a few chants of Appy out and various other recommendations for someone or somebody or anybody to get the sack.
Bit difficult to sack players who aren't absolutely certain if they will have a job next month, and the manager who they can not afford to sack.
Poor old Pompey, losing 0 - 2 to the mighty Wycombe. !7 seconds for the first goal and no Pompey player touched it ! Kuffour has already hit the post twice too! Might just be too much for the bestest ever fans and quite expect a few chants of Appy out and various other recommendations for someone or somebody or anybody to get the sack. Bit difficult to sack players who aren't absolutely certain if they will have a job next month, and the manager who they can not afford to sack. dadofmy3sons

8:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC.
There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey.
Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC.
Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless.
No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC!
thought you superiour intellectual beings would realise when you've been proved wrong on a number of statements ........... c'mon wycombe !
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC. There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey. Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC. Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless. No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC![/p][/quote]thought you superiour intellectual beings would realise when you've been proved wrong on a number of statements ........... c'mon wycombe ! slugger

8:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
You are just making yourself appear like an absolute moron. You have obviously hit a childish fixation on Cortese. Is it jealousy I wonder?

Are you so frustrated that you can't run your own club that you are jealous and show childish hatred for somebody that does?

Either way, that's enough. You may not like NC but that's just tough on you, he may not be perfect, but I would rather him in charge of our club than so many other chairman... We could end up with somebody like Chanrai careful what you wish for.

So cut the childish name calling.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]You are just making yourself appear like an absolute moron. You have obviously hit a childish fixation on Cortese. Is it jealousy I wonder? Are you so frustrated that you can't run your own club that you are jealous and show childish hatred for somebody that does? Either way, that's enough. You may not like NC but that's just tough on you, he may not be perfect, but I would rather him in charge of our club than so many other chairman... We could end up with somebody like Chanrai careful what you wish for. So cut the childish name calling. randre

8:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC.
There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey.
Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC.
Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless.
No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC!
He probably wouldn't like you much either if he ever had the misfortune to come across you!
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC. There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey. Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC. Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless. No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC![/p][/quote]He probably wouldn't like you much either if he ever had the misfortune to come across you! OSPREYSAINT

8:15pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wycombe were 2 up after 8 minutes. It's still wet and even more miserable at Nottarf.
Wycombe were 2 up after 8 minutes. It's still wet and even more miserable at Nottarf. OSPREYSAINT

8:15pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.
Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught.

Do not be fooled.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.[/p][/quote]Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught. Do not be fooled. Velleity

8:26pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.
Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught.

Do not be fooled.
I have my suspicions about SaintsBTGOG too, I seem to remember having a similar spat with him a while back.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.[/p][/quote]Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught. Do not be fooled.[/p][/quote]I have my suspicions about SaintsBTGOG too, I seem to remember having a similar spat with him a while back. OSPREYSAINT

8:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, hue many times. The program sellers were NOT employees ffs... So not the same at all us it.

What is wrong with you?
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, hue many times. The program sellers were NOT employees ffs... So not the same at all us it. What is wrong with you? randre

8:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

All the negative posts on here seen to come from the same people. Even if NC and NA guided us to the champions league there would still be the same few trying to put a downer on it. Yes it is Markus 's money that paid for the club and yes NC advised him but as far as I understand their working relationship was formed quite a few years before that so Im pretty sure markus knew how NC conducted himself in business matters , so I can only assume that Markus would behappy with the job NC is doing . I know I am !
All the negative posts on here seen to come from the same people. Even if NC and NA guided us to the champions league there would still be the same few trying to put a downer on it. Yes it is Markus 's money that paid for the club and yes NC advised him but as far as I understand their working relationship was formed quite a few years before that so Im pretty sure markus knew how NC conducted himself in business matters , so I can only assume that Markus would behappy with the job NC is doing . I know I am ! saintand266

8:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.
Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught.

Do not be fooled.
I have my suspicions about SaintsBTGOG too, I seem to remember having a similar spat with him a while back.
and cb fry lives ........ all skunts imo ..... c'mon wycombe !
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]Taking and giving I think Thomas, be honest, what would you want to happen, New owners, new manager, new Players, ignoring the tittle tattle do you really think our lot is a bad one? I may disagree, but I won't deny you the right put a sensible opinion, that is what the Forum is about. It is quite easy to do it the TEBOURBA method but he tends not to think about the consequences when he posts, be careful about being abusive and false accusations, they are not a good option.[/p][/quote]Tebourba and Thomasupton are the same person - he mistakely answered the wrong thread from the wrong logon the other night. They always get caught. Do not be fooled.[/p][/quote]I have my suspicions about SaintsBTGOG too, I seem to remember having a similar spat with him a while back.[/p][/quote]and cb fry lives ........ all skunts imo ..... c'mon wycombe ! slugger

8:32pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles.
He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back!
Says it all about the weasel in my book!
good post
No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules.
How can anyone say that is a good post...

It is absolute rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the weasel soon scuttled away back in to his burrow, when the powerful owners of the Corporate Boxes flexed their muscles. He's more at home taking on the loyal programme sellers who can't fight back! Says it all about the weasel in my book![/p][/quote]good post[/p][/quote]No it isn't it's abusive and against the rules.[/p][/quote]How can anyone say that is a good post... It is absolute rubbish. randre

8:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.
Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck![/p][/quote]I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.[/p][/quote]Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git! Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:36pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

1 2 ht that McCleod again
1 2 ht that McCleod again OSPREYSAINT

8:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!! randre

8:41pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.
Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git!
I will have your velour lined box ready for you at West Ham...m'lud!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck![/p][/quote]I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.[/p][/quote]Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git![/p][/quote]I will have your velour lined box ready for you at West Ham...m'lud! Baddesley Bill

8:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

The reason Osprey is getting a "pasting" is because two sign-ons are doing all the posting .
As anti as they? can get.
Have either of you started looking for that time-lapse machine I recommended?
Did you buy a program , ever ?
The reason Osprey is getting a "pasting" is because two sign-ons are doing all the posting . As anti as they? can get. Have either of you started looking for that time-lapse machine I recommended? Did you buy a program , ever ? dadofmy3sons

8:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
agree 100 % ........ but i think your keyboard's playing up ;o)
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]agree 100 % ........ but i think your keyboard's playing up ;o) slugger

8:43pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Ffs, see what you have done to me.... Does (not dies)
Enough of you moaners (not enough if you moaners).
Glory hunter (not gliry hunter)
Chelsea would love you (not live you)

Aaaaagggghhh why oh why!! :0(
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Ffs, see what you have done to me.... Does (not dies) Enough of you moaners (not enough if you moaners). Glory hunter (not gliry hunter) Chelsea would love you (not live you) Aaaaagggghhh why oh why!! :0( randre

8:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Ha ha I think your i and o keys have got crossed, but giid wirk anyway.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Ha ha I think your i and o keys have got crossed, but giid wirk anyway. OSPREYSAINT

8:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O) Baddesley Bill

8:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day.
I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable.
I wondered if I had just been lucky.
Apparently not.
A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch.
Just an observation.
It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club.
I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!!
Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck!
I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.
Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git!
I will have your velour lined box ready for you at West Ham...m'lud!
Tickets arrived today. It's all good.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Sunday Fulham game , I went to the bar just before the game and a nice young assistant smiled at me and asked what I wanted to drink and hurried and served me quickly and joked that it was looking like a good day. I got home and read how awful the staff are, slow, thick, miserable. I wondered if I had just been lucky. Apparently not. A friend of mine said on Monday that he had chatted to a couple of the bar staff and their comment was that if the club had built 200% more bars and %00% more staff then that would still not be enough for a bar staff member per customer and might not have left enough room for a pitch. Just an observation. It does appear to be the same people moaning all the time and climbing on any bandwagon to pile sh!t on the club. I wonder how many of them went to the Dell, where the bar was the toilet was the fight ring was the first aid was the place to be sick and do not dare moan because it could be worse!! Get a life, 30,000 people wanting a drink at the same time, probably would lead to a bit of a bottleneck![/p][/quote]I remember the scramble at the Dell to get a cold stale pasty and a plastic cup of soft drink served from little more than a serving hatch. It was much the same at Everton the other week...made our place look 5 star. I never even attempted a purchase at Fratton...I refuse to spend any of my hard eaned coin in that god awful place.[/p][/quote]Yeah, I had to go thirsty you tight arsed git![/p][/quote]I will have your velour lined box ready for you at West Ham...m'lud![/p][/quote]Tickets arrived today. It's all good. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Owen Coyle is available.
PL experience !
WTF !
No thank you by the way.
Happy with Nigel and all the work he is putting in to improve us.
Saints supporter, you read it here several times now.
Owen Coyle is available. PL experience ! WTF ! No thank you by the way. Happy with Nigel and all the work he is putting in to improve us. Saints supporter, you read it here several times now. dadofmy3sons

9:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

just realised....dictator
s NEVER back down.
Can't be a dictator then, not a real one.!.!.!
just realised....dictator s NEVER back down. Can't be a dictator then, not a real one.!.!.! dadofmy3sons

9:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)
Nice work!

Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)[/p][/quote]Nice work! Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai. randre

9:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

randre wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)
Nice work!

Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.
Ffs... I'm just going to read the posts this evening, my I's and o's are all over the place. I blame the skunts, invading my computer chips and my mind... Barstewards!
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)[/p][/quote]Nice work! Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.[/p][/quote]Ffs... I'm just going to read the posts this evening, my I's and o's are all over the place. I blame the skunts, invading my computer chips and my mind... Barstewards! randre

9:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

1 3 Wycombe Pen
1 3 Wycombe Pen OSPREYSAINT

9:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Velleity says...

My Dear Young Seed,

While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments.

We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.
My Dear Young Seed, While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments. We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event. Velleity

9:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Correction Pen saved but rebound blasted in.
Correction Pen saved but rebound blasted in. OSPREYSAINT

9:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

Wycombe 3-1 up... WTFILN
Wycombe 3-1 up... WTFILN randre

9:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Velleity says...

Velleity wrote:
My Dear Young Seed,

While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments.

We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.
"Spurds"? Typo, but I like it.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: My Dear Young Seed, While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments. We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.[/p][/quote]"Spurds"? Typo, but I like it. Velleity

9:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

randre wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)
Nice work!

Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.
I was rather hoping that cartoon character fella who raped Watford FC might get a go at them...it appears they know better now...you can't fool a skunt! :O)
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)[/p][/quote]Nice work! Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.[/p][/quote]I was rather hoping that cartoon character fella who raped Watford FC might get a go at them...it appears they know better now...you can't fool a skunt! :O) Baddesley Bill

9:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

randre wrote:
randre wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
randre wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on.
It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought.
Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast.
ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ).
NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else).
That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance.
NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA
for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible!
RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.
Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?
You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure.

I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you.

Somebody help me!!
Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)
Nice work!

Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.
Ffs... I'm just going to read the posts this evening, my I's and o's are all over the place. I blame the skunts, invading my computer chips and my mind... Barstewards!
Skates favourite letters i o i o i o i o
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: ML's father Hans started the business, ML with his siblings, carried it on. It was ML's money that rescued Saints, not NC's, NC is merely an employee, better paid, but an employee non the less, the similar to the the programme seller he dismissed without a thought. Comparing ML and NC's commitment to Saints is like comparing the plate of an English Breakfast. ML supplied the bacon (it's his life and money, a one and only chance if it fails he loses the lot ). NC contributed the egg ( if it fails he loses nothing and can always go and lay another egg for someone else). That's the difference between the two men, NC doesn't give a toss about anyone else ( programme sellers, corporate box owners,the season ticket holders, those who want a Coke, all us plebs,) as long as he is swelling his personal bank balance. NC is unable to look beyond the figures on the balance sheet, if they don't add up then he will blame and bomb out the person he thinks responsible --- NA for the simple reason NC thinks he is infallible! RYRIHF !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]It was NC that interested Markus in the venture, it was only after the take over was done and dusted that Markus invested NC with job of running the club. If you must post your opinions at least get your facts right. It is NCs job to ensure that the finance is done properly so that there is no recurrence of the previous event. You accuse him of embezzling funds for his own use, that is a serious allegation. As far as the Adkins situation is concerned you haven't a clue any more than anyone else of us do, so stop making stupid and unsustantiated statements, you are being very foolish.[/p][/quote]Taking a bit of a pasting today Osprey. Where's all your blinkered "positive" friends?[/p][/quote]You mean supporters? I am pleased to say Osprey dies not need any back up and he talks sense. Unlike you negative lot who live to assassinate the club, you are Skunts for absolute sure. I've had enough if you moaners, clear off and be a gliry hunter somewhere else... I bet Chelsea would live you. Somebody help me!![/p][/quote]Calm down Randre...skunts should not be an issue for us. Let them fester in their own issues...and just giggle to yourself when they attempt to post on here. They are just attempting to make themselves feel better about any negative they can find here. Revel in their demise...I do! :O)[/p][/quote]Nice work! Talking of which, does anyone know if it when they will be coming out of admin? I'm really looking forward to Return of the Chanrai.[/p][/quote]Ffs... I'm just going to read the posts this evening, my I's and o's are all over the place. I blame the skunts, invading my computer chips and my mind... Barstewards![/p][/quote]Skates favourite letters i o i o i o i o OSPREYSAINT

9:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Pompey now 1 -3 .
Penalty saved and rebound scored.

By the way if any of you are interested in events at Fratton regarding possible owners read this

http://www.fansnetwo
rk.co.uk/football/po
rtsmouth/fb_news.php
?storyid=18346

Might be an idea to repost on a few other sites too!
Pompey now 1 -3 . Penalty saved and rebound scored. By the way if any of you are interested in events at Fratton regarding possible owners read this http://www.fansnetwo rk.co.uk/football/po rtsmouth/fb_news.php ?storyid=18346 Might be an idea to repost on a few other sites too! dadofmy3sons

9:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular? ghk230473

9:11pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Velleity wrote:
My Dear Young Seed,

While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments.

We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.
Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: My Dear Young Seed, While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments. We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.[/p][/quote]Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing. OSPREYSAINT

9:14pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
c'mon wycombe !
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]c'mon wycombe ! slugger

9:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
The arguement office is open for business...ghk is back from the pub :O)
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]The arguement office is open for business...ghk is back from the pub :O) Baddesley Bill

9:17pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Velleity wrote:
My Dear Young Seed,

While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments.

We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.
Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it.
i never spotted that mr seed , if i'd noticed, i'd have sneered too .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: My Dear Young Seed, While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments. We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.[/p][/quote]Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it.[/p][/quote]i never spotted that mr seed , if i'd noticed, i'd have sneered too . slugger

9:20pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.
All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down.
He's as about popular as council tax
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.[/p][/quote]All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down. He's as about popular as council tax ghk230473

9:22pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.
All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down.
He's as about popular as council tax
But no doubt, far better liked than your good self, now I wonder why.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.[/p][/quote]All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down. He's as about popular as council tax[/p][/quote]But no doubt, far better liked than your good self, now I wonder why. OSPREYSAINT

9:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Optimist says...

Methinks if Nicola was a multi billionaire his perception would be different, or if results were different, or tickets were cheap.
This season is only just starting and is going to be a fantastic roller coaster, but what the thinker thinks the prover proves, it surprises me just how quickly the joy I saw in fellow fans got sucked away after a few goals at the wrong end. Blame that man who arrived when we were staring at liquidation and four years later has us worried about our 12 million quid international wonderkid not playing against West Ham & West Brom.
It could be so much worse, would that make you happy ???
Methinks if Nicola was a multi billionaire his perception would be different, or if results were different, or tickets were cheap. This season is only just starting and is going to be a fantastic roller coaster, but what the thinker thinks the prover proves, it surprises me just how quickly the joy I saw in fellow fans got sucked away after a few goals at the wrong end. Blame that man who arrived when we were staring at liquidation and four years later has us worried about our 12 million quid international wonderkid not playing against West Ham & West Brom. It could be so much worse, would that make you happy ??? Optimist

9:26pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Velleity wrote:
My Dear Young Seed,

While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments.

We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.
Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it.
i never spotted that mr seed , if i'd noticed, i'd have sneered too .
If I were ever to get depressed to the extent of wanting to end my life...I would put "Thomasupton" on the back of mine ;O)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: My Dear Young Seed, While we can't make Wet Spam, young Master Velleity and I will be attending the Joshua Tree after the Spurds game for refreshments. We'll arrange carnations etc nearer the event.[/p][/quote]Sounds good to me. I have acquired my new shirt and have my name on the back so easy to identify. Although Puppy was very sneering about it.[/p][/quote]i never spotted that mr seed , if i'd noticed, i'd have sneered too .[/p][/quote]If I were ever to get depressed to the extent of wanting to end my life...I would put "Thomasupton" on the back of mine ;O) Baddesley Bill

9:28pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

If you were there Sunday you would have appreciated the support given by those that didn't leave early, I am convinced we had something to do with the equaliser and had we knicked it in Fergie time can you imagine how different some attitudes would have been now?
If you were there Sunday you would have appreciated the support given by those that didn't leave early, I am convinced we had something to do with the equaliser and had we knicked it in Fergie time can you imagine how different some attitudes would have been now? OSPREYSAINT

9:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
There is no smoke with out fire!
No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling?
•season ticket holders
•parking costs
•le god spat
•programme sellers
•I'll feeling from employers within club
•ticket office issues
•ground not selling out for games
•empty corporate boxes
Just to name a few.
Obviously being CEO of a business
requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?
You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.
All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down.
He's as about popular as council tax
But no doubt, far better liked than your good self, now I wonder why.
Very defensive, better than ours at present!
It was meant as a genuine question. I don't know the bloke personally, just admired from a far......... Seems like a man after me own heart, I feel a connection! Lmfao
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: There is no smoke with out fire! No one can argue that the short Cuban heeled wearing Italian, (schwi for short) didn't play his part in bringing the club back from the depths from which we fell, but what is going on and how can 1 man generate such I'll feeling? •season ticket holders •parking costs •le god spat •programme sellers •I'll feeling from employers within club •ticket office issues •ground not selling out for games •empty corporate boxes Just to name a few. Obviously being CEO of a business requires making some tough and unpopular decisions, but really this unpopular?[/p][/quote]You couldn't put you point across without being disrespectful could you, you still don't know anything so stop guessing.[/p][/quote]All fact fella, from the Cuban heels down. He's as about popular as council tax[/p][/quote]But no doubt, far better liked than your good self, now I wonder why.[/p][/quote]Very defensive, better than ours at present! It was meant as a genuine question. I don't know the bloke personally, just admired from a far......... Seems like a man after me own heart, I feel a connection! Lmfao ghk230473

9:39pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse. OSPREYSAINT

9:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Pompey lost 1 - 3 .
Shame
Pompey lost 1 - 3 . Shame dadofmy3sons

9:43pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Pompey lost 1 - 3 .
Shame
gutted ....... WTFILN ?
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Pompey lost 1 - 3 . Shame[/p][/quote]gutted ....... WTFILN ? slugger

9:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Shame Skates have let Hampshire down losing 3 1 to third lowest team in the Football League, no Paint Pot this year, the 2nd best team in Hampshire Aldershot lost to Plymouth 1 2.
Shame Skates have let Hampshire down losing 3 1 to third lowest team in the Football League, no Paint Pot this year, the 2nd best team in Hampshire Aldershot lost to Plymouth 1 2. OSPREYSAINT

9:50pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season. ghk230473

9:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion. Baddesley Bill

9:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
Better, but the answer is the same, don't know for certain, but you are correct, no smoke without fire and mud sticks. One day we will be enlightened.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]Better, but the answer is the same, don't know for certain, but you are correct, no smoke without fire and mud sticks. One day we will be enlightened. OSPREYSAINT

10:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Velleity says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"?

The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday.

What an utter delight of a human being you are...
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"? The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday. What an utter delight of a human being you are... Velleity

10:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many? ghk230473

10:08pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

GH you must have a soft life f such minor details worry you Why would I even want to know how many boxes are m/t I can;t afford one and even if I won the NL I would rather sit in my 'pemium no concession' seat
GH you must have a soft life f such minor details worry you Why would I even want to know how many boxes are m/t I can;t afford one and even if I won the NL I would rather sit in my 'pemium no concession' seat Saintsayer II

10:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Velleity wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"?

The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday.

What an utter delight of a human being you are...
Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"? The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday. What an utter delight of a human being you are...[/p][/quote]Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen ghk230473

10:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
GH you must have a soft life f such minor details worry you Why would I even want to know how many boxes are m/t I can;t afford one and even if I won the NL I would rather sit in my 'pemium no concession' seat
No fella, but the more boxes seats sold means more pennies, more pennies mean better players. Not rocket science
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: GH you must have a soft life f such minor details worry you Why would I even want to know how many boxes are m/t I can;t afford one and even if I won the NL I would rather sit in my 'pemium no concession' seat[/p][/quote]No fella, but the more boxes seats sold means more pennies, more pennies mean better players. Not rocket science ghk230473

10:14pm Tue 9 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Good night GHK I'll leave you to sort the baying hounds out.
Good night GHK I'll leave you to sort the baying hounds out. OSPREYSAINT

10:17pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Good night GHK I'll leave you to sort the baying hounds out.
You said it!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Good night GHK I'll leave you to sort the baying hounds out.[/p][/quote]You said it! ghk230473

10:20pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out? Baddesley Bill

10:21pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother !
if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother ! slugger

10:23pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother !
Now then Now then Now then!

What. Have. We. Here?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother ![/p][/quote]Now then Now then Now then! What. Have. We. Here? Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:26pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club ghk230473

10:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Velleity says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"?

The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday.

What an utter delight of a human being you are...
Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen
What a delight of a human being you are.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"? The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday. What an utter delight of a human being you are...[/p][/quote]Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen[/p][/quote]What a delight of a human being you are. Velleity

10:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother !
You've just admitted to being a skate, they do that and I'm a saint.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother ![/p][/quote]You've just admitted to being a skate, they do that and I'm a saint. ghk230473

10:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Velleity wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"?

The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday.

What an utter delight of a human being you are...
Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen
What a delight of a human being you are.
Oh my word swipe me
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]I note that you're not repeating your libel that his housekeeping is done on the club's books since I pointed out that you were utterly totally wrong on that score. Is that a case of "no smoke without fire"? The fact that I made you look like an imbecile over that puerile bit of rumour-mongering is presumably why, in another thread today, you wished that I had been more seriously injured by the lump of lead thrown at me on Sunday. What an utter delight of a human being you are...[/p][/quote]Oh fcuk me chicken licken back! Sky still falling down is it? Drama queen[/p][/quote]What a delight of a human being you are.[/p][/quote]Oh my word swipe me ghk230473

10:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave? Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother !
Now then Now then Now then!

What. Have. We. Here?
ffs...ghk...out youself as a skate....NOW!!!! :OS
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother ![/p][/quote]Now then Now then Now then! What. Have. We. Here?[/p][/quote]ffs...ghk...out youself as a skate....NOW!!!! :OS Baddesley Bill

10:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother !
Now then Now then Now then!

What. Have. We. Here?
ffs...ghk...out youself as a skate....NOW!!!! :OS
They ain't pillows;D
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: if ghk is a saint i'll make love to my brother ![/p][/quote]Now then Now then Now then! What. Have. We. Here?[/p][/quote]ffs...ghk...out youself as a skate....NOW!!!! :OS[/p][/quote]They ain't pillows;D ghk230473

10:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it. ghk230473

10:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

i know that bill is safe !
i know that bill is safe ! slugger

10:50pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
i know that bill is safe !
Keep to your word and your a skate mate
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: i know that bill is safe ![/p][/quote]Keep to your word and your a skate mate ghk230473

10:50pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
you do spout some garbage (imo)...............
.. anyone want ghk's email address ?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]you do spout some garbage (imo)............... .. anyone want ghk's email address ? slugger

10:53pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

I'll try to post something serious.
If we count ourselves as Saints...and supporters...why is it that some give themselves the right to criticise to extent they do. Did they bid for the club when it was near extinction...no. Do they involve themselves with fans fo prematch met-ups...no. Do they arrange away days...no.
My point is simple...they choose to criticise from behind a keyboard and pay more credance to petty arguments on a website without any substance. To me...that makes them either insignificant wanabees....or skunts.

Night all.
I'll try to post something serious. If we count ourselves as Saints...and supporters...why is it that some give themselves the right to criticise to extent they do. Did they bid for the club when it was near extinction...no. Do they involve themselves with fans fo prematch met-ups...no. Do they arrange away days...no. My point is simple...they choose to criticise from behind a keyboard and pay more credance to petty arguments on a website without any substance. To me...that makes them either insignificant wanabees....or skunts. Night all. Baddesley Bill

10:53pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
you do spout some garbage (imo)...............

.. anyone want ghk's email address ?
Truth is slug you are a bit of a bully, IMO.......... keep to your word, bill brace yourself
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]you do spout some garbage (imo)............... .. anyone want ghk's email address ?[/p][/quote]Truth is slug you are a bit of a bully, IMO.......... keep to your word, bill brace yourself ghk230473

10:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12

randre says...

What have I missed?
What have I missed? randre

11:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins. TEBOURBA

11:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too. ghk230473

11:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
you do spout some garbage (imo)...............


.. anyone want ghk's email address ?
Truth is slug you are a bit of a bully, IMO.......... keep to your word, bill brace yourself
bully .... moi ? ....... i just respond mate .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]you do spout some garbage (imo)............... .. anyone want ghk's email address ?[/p][/quote]Truth is slug you are a bit of a bully, IMO.......... keep to your word, bill brace yourself[/p][/quote]bully .... moi ? ....... i just respond mate . slugger

11:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
Here here
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.[/p][/quote]Here here ghk230473

11:08pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'll try to post something serious.
If we count ourselves as Saints...and supporters...why is it that some give themselves the right to criticise to extent they do. Did they bid for the club when it was near extinction...no. Do they involve themselves with fans fo prematch met-ups...no. Do they arrange away days...no.
My point is simple...they choose to criticise from behind a keyboard and pay more credance to petty arguments on a website without any substance. To me...that makes them either insignificant wanabees....or skunts.

Night all.
Did schwi?
I meet up with my mates before games?
Bit keen for bed, slug you ready?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'll try to post something serious. If we count ourselves as Saints...and supporters...why is it that some give themselves the right to criticise to extent they do. Did they bid for the club when it was near extinction...no. Do they involve themselves with fans fo prematch met-ups...no. Do they arrange away days...no. My point is simple...they choose to criticise from behind a keyboard and pay more credance to petty arguments on a website without any substance. To me...that makes them either insignificant wanabees....or skunts. Night all.[/p][/quote]Did schwi? I meet up with my mates before games? Bit keen for bed, slug you ready? ghk230473

11:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
Here here
there's a sodding supprise !
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.[/p][/quote]Here here[/p][/quote]there's a sodding supprise ! slugger

11:11pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
Here here
there's a sodding supprise !
What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.[/p][/quote]Here here[/p][/quote]there's a sodding supprise ![/p][/quote]What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on? ghk230473

11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
Here here
there's a sodding supprise !
What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on?
nice one wycombe ..... g'night .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.[/p][/quote]Here here[/p][/quote]there's a sodding supprise ![/p][/quote]What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on?[/p][/quote]nice one wycombe ..... g'night . slugger

11:19pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13.
I believe its coverage is fair.
It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship.
Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team.
We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock.
Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers.
It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area.
Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency.
It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious.
I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours.
Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.
Here here
there's a sodding supprise !
What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on?
nice one wycombe ..... g'night .
You are a man of your word after all!
Agreed nice one Wycombe ;D
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The SDE is an excellent local paper and has been for as long as I can remember, even before I started delivering it, at the age of 13. I believe its coverage is fair. It allows people of opposing views the opportunity to comment in this column with little if any censorship. Clearly there are many concerns among the supporters, regarding both the management of SFC and the current form of the team. We now have a respite of 2 weeks, due to the internationals, a time for SFC management and the supporters to take stock. Through the auspices of this column, may I request that the SDE invite NC and NA to an interview, where at, the SDE may put the supporters' various concerns and questions to them in an open and frank forum and publish their answers. It would make interesting reading to the majority of Saints supporters who live within the SDE's circulation area. Supporters pay a hefty admission price and deserve this transparency. It may also help dispel the views, expressed in this column, that on the one hand the SDE is anti Saints and on the other, that NC is secretive and devious. I would have thought that the Chairman of any local company, particularly one with such a high national profile as SFC, would welcome the opportunity of sorting out his customers concerns and quashing inaccurate rumours. Opposite opinions or not, I'm sure the majority of contributors here, share one common objective the long term success of the Saints and a permanent place in the PL under the continued management of Nigel Adkins.[/p][/quote]Here here[/p][/quote]there's a sodding supprise ![/p][/quote]What is wrong with an interview whilst the internationals are on?[/p][/quote]nice one wycombe ..... g'night .[/p][/quote]You are a man of your word after all! Agreed nice one Wycombe ;D ghk230473

11:23pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree? ghk230473

11:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Failing that knock them down and make them part of the seating, anything just make money from them
Failing that knock them down and make them part of the seating, anything just make money from them ghk230473

11:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out.

Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption.

A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?[/p][/quote]We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out. Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption. A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

12:04am Wed 10 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

it amazes me that despite being furnished with the fact (more than once) some people, the boooorer/uphimself and ghk, still cast doubt over NC! the facts are there go read them ML liked and respected NC`s business dealings and only brought sfc because NC did the deal and would become exec chair. i dont know whats so hard to understand about that. an honest upstanding business man who never wanted the limelight put a `friend` in charge of saints and let him run it his way, a way that ML trusted. if ML trusted and respected NC why cant some of you? rumours are rumours everybody has stories made up about them, but if you believe every rumour you here about a person, then you will never understand or accept the truth, this is because you believe and hear what you want to believe and hear and no amount of facts or proof to the contrary will change your mind. me i am always willing to change my views on people and i dont believe everthing i hear!
it amazes me that despite being furnished with the fact (more than once) some people, the boooorer/uphimself and ghk, still cast doubt over NC! the facts are there go read them ML liked and respected NC`s business dealings and only brought sfc because NC did the deal and would become exec chair. i dont know whats so hard to understand about that. an honest upstanding business man who never wanted the limelight put a `friend` in charge of saints and let him run it his way, a way that ML trusted. if ML trusted and respected NC why cant some of you? rumours are rumours everybody has stories made up about them, but if you believe every rumour you here about a person, then you will never understand or accept the truth, this is because you believe and hear what you want to believe and hear and no amount of facts or proof to the contrary will change your mind. me i am always willing to change my views on people and i dont believe everthing i hear! saintshorse101

12:29am Wed 10 Oct 12

City Saint says...

Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me.

Jus' sayin'
Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me. Jus' sayin' City Saint

12:32am Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out.

Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption.

A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.
Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions!
That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?[/p][/quote]We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out. Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption. A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.[/p][/quote]Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions! That's where ex players, celebs come in handy. ghk230473

8:24am Wed 10 Oct 12

franiow says...

Cortese offer MLT his meet and greet job back (as suggested above)...hell woul freezeover first. Also I believe Tiss has a little job at Sky on match days.
Cortese offer MLT his meet and greet job back (as suggested above)...hell woul freezeover first. Also I believe Tiss has a little job at Sky on match days. franiow

8:54am Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out.

Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption.

A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.
Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions!
That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.
The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?[/p][/quote]We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out. Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption. A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.[/p][/quote]Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions! That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.[/p][/quote]The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity. OSPREYSAINT

10:06am Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you. ghk230473

10:44am Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
You bit at my little tease!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]You bit at my little tease! OSPREYSAINT

11:08am Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
You bit at my little tease!
As I thought nothing constructive
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]You bit at my little tease![/p][/quote]As I thought nothing constructive ghk230473

11:14am Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
You bit at my little tease!
As I thought nothing constructive
Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]You bit at my little tease![/p][/quote]As I thought nothing constructive[/p][/quote]Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive. OSPREYSAINT

11:47am Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
You bit at my little tease!
As I thought nothing constructive
Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive.
You have no point
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]You bit at my little tease![/p][/quote]As I thought nothing constructive[/p][/quote]Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive.[/p][/quote]You have no point ghk230473

11:53am Wed 10 Oct 12

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out.

Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption.

A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.
Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions!
That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.
The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity.
"Gross"

Nice one.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?[/p][/quote]We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out. Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption. A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.[/p][/quote]Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions! That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.[/p][/quote]The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity.[/p][/quote]"Gross" Nice one. Velleity

11:56am Wed 10 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

billythesaint wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down!
you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down!
what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again!
what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s.
what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?
If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse."
Not a bad CV.
Got as far as these two posts - the ones that make the most sense - and couldn't be bothered to read any further because there's so much 'from what I've heard' and 'it's well known in the city' b0ll0cks on here I gave up.

It's not that I think NC hasn't made any mistakes, but I'd like to think even his biggest critics can see from one quick glance at the football tables how far we have come 'despite' him.

Well done Billy and Horse101 for the logic but I fear those with anti-NC prejudice will never budge.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down! you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down! what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again! what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s. what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?[/p][/quote]If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse." Not a bad CV.[/p][/quote]Got as far as these two posts - the ones that make the most sense - and couldn't be bothered to read any further because there's so much 'from what I've heard' and 'it's well known in the city' b0ll0cks on here I gave up. It's not that I think NC hasn't made any mistakes, but I'd like to think even his biggest critics can see from one quick glance at the football tables how far we have come 'despite' him. Well done Billy and Horse101 for the logic but I fear those with anti-NC prejudice will never budge. Strasbourg Saint

12:00pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

City Saint wrote:
Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me.

Jus' sayin'
Like! (sorry Seed)
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me. Jus' sayin'[/p][/quote]Like! (sorry Seed) Strasbourg Saint

12:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me.

Jus' sayin'
Like! (sorry Seed)
So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in!
Unfaking believable
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me. Jus' sayin'[/p][/quote]Like! (sorry Seed)[/p][/quote]So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in! Unfaking believable ghk230473

2:14pm Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.
This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games?
This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy?
Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it?
Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.
This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost.
I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date.

They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.
Your opinion is never humble in my opinion!
I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?
You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?
Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion?
Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future.
It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club
Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus?

If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?
I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.
Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions.

I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.
Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do.
Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.
MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often.

I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies.

Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.
I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?
We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out.

Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption.

A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.
Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions!
That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.
The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity.
"Gross"

Nice one.
At least someone appreciates my sense of humour! (It does carry a Government Health Warning with it).
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: You could have just said quote " Does anyone else think that Nicola Cortese is unpopular and are the current issues down to him?" The answer would have been the same," We don't actually know". Easy isn't it? No abuse, a valid point drawing a reasonable response and no cause for abuse.[/p][/quote]This is where transparency is needed to appreciate the difficulty in the task of running a club. Are all these actions necessary? Why are 75'/. of the corporate boxes empty? Can we sell more tickets for games? This is OUR club and some of us were there when things weren't going well, but why the secrecy? Truth is he has upset some loyal supporters, season ticket holders. Remember the reported bloke that returned his season tickets (2) just bought because of parking? That is false economy isn't it? Are the reports true? Like I said no smoke without fire. True if results were different these issues probably wouldn't surface but they have always been there since at least start of last season.[/p][/quote]This is OUR club to SUPPORT ghk...we didn't bail it out...we idn't save it when it was all but lost. I support the people who shelled out the cash to breath life back into it...that is why I criticise those who knock our owners who have delivered on all their promises to date. They make you look like a whinging pipsqueak in my humble opinion.[/p][/quote]Your opinion is never humble in my opinion! I do disagree though as this is OUR club because without us there wouldn't be a club. Without schwi we would be supporting a team in the lower league, may be, but still supporting non the less. fact is after all that has been done by Markus (rip) and schwi why are us fans split on schwi ? Are saints fans really that un appreciative? Or has schwi really been upsetting so many?[/p][/quote]You are not a supporter imo...perhaps you should consider opting out?[/p][/quote]Contradiction in terms, how can I opt out if not a supporter in your humble opinion? Fact is I am a supporter from a family of supporters past present and future. It's this support which finds me wanting to know the truth of what happens with my club. I have an interest, my support by way of buying tickets and merchandise over the years has helped fund my club, as so has a lot of others. OUR club[/p][/quote]Has it occurred to you that the family see the club and Nicola as a package relating to the memory of Markus? If we drove him out maybe they would also leave?[/p][/quote]I think when ml passed there interest went. God only knows what is going to happen but I think schwi could do better promoting the club. Get the ground sold out for all games. I'd love to have le god involved and sell out the whole of the corporate, he'd do it for the love of it.[/p][/quote]Yes but if NC is close to them they might be prepared to stay a while. They have done for a couple of seasons so far and bankrolled our back to back promotions. I've been in corporate since the ground opened and had seasons in most suites and in a box. I've met most of those involved. I've also been lucky enough to be invited to many other grounds as a guest. Often a large company will take a box and give it to it's regional offices to invite customers to 'their' game. I'm not convinced Southampton has the corporate environment for it. We've only got so many Draper Tools. Paris Smith found it hard to fill their box and gave it up. It's the same with cricket, the corporate culture at the Ageas Bowl is very very different from The Oval and Lords.[/p][/quote]Schwi has got a tough job to sell them, that's what he's paid to do. Here's just an idea, le god as we know is not a mercenary as he wouldn't have stayed all his career with us. He wouldn't want much, make him ambassador of saints jobs to include meet and greet. Reduce or make offers on corporate and they will sell like hot cakes. Also I think the players would benefit from his pressence. Get blm in too.[/p][/quote]MLT has a highly paid job at Sky on Saturdays, he's not available often. I repeat I'm not convinced there is a big enough corporate environment in Southampton for the boxes. Head Offices are what you want and they farm out the games to their regional offices when we play that team. There are a few here, such as B&Q, but they've just laid off 200+ staff and wont want the bad publicity by being seen to spend on corporate jollies. Most in the corporate suites are like me, they have their own businesses and are Saints fans. They have 2-4 seats and occasionally take a table of ten.[/p][/quote]I appreciate we are in hard times at the moment but when last in prem I'm sure there were more boxes occupied. We have to reduce the rate or make offer/deals on them. Anything rather than have them empty don't you agree?[/p][/quote]We did have them full. The excitement of the long awaited new ground and a very bouyant economy played their part. A number of boxes were taken by wealthy individuals clubbing together. When we went down a few were relieved to give them up and I said at the time that even if we bounced straight back they would not take them back on. The box is a very closed environment and I enjoy it for a game here and there as a guest but wouldn't want to do it week in week out. Culture has changed. I have 11 county councils amongst my customer base and you can't even buy them lunch let alone take them on a freebie, it's regarded as corruption. A number of the local solicitors and accountants shared boxes and invited their clients giving them a chance to meet each other. You'd always get the obligatory bank manager enjoying a freebie and touting for business, but that's about it.[/p][/quote]Well a deal' has to be done, that's business. You can't have un occupied seats/ boxes. Promotions have to be done to generate business, don't give me problems give me solutions! That's where ex players, celebs come in handy.[/p][/quote]The last 12 dozen posts from you have all been either disrespectful or rubbish, gross stupidity.[/p][/quote]"Gross" Nice one.[/p][/quote]At least someone appreciates my sense of humour! (It does carry a Government Health Warning with it). OSPREYSAINT

2:17pm Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

randre wrote:
What have I missed?
Don't know just repeat what you know and we will slot in the rest.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: What have I missed?[/p][/quote]Don't know just repeat what you know and we will slot in the rest. OSPREYSAINT

2:22pm Wed 10 Oct 12

randre says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down!
you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down!
what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again!
what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s.
what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?
If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse."
Not a bad CV.
Got as far as these two posts - the ones that make the most sense - and couldn't be bothered to read any further because there's so much 'from what I've heard' and 'it's well known in the city' b0ll0cks on here I gave up.

It's not that I think NC hasn't made any mistakes, but I'd like to think even his biggest critics can see from one quick glance at the football tables how far we have come 'despite' him.

Well done Billy and Horse101 for the logic but I fear those with anti-NC prejudice will never budge.
Like x 3 ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: all those of you who have some sort of gripe with NC always say `hes a dictator, a control freak, he picks the team and the players we buy and most of all what NC wants NC gets!` well i suggest you reread this story. the club (or in your eyes NC) wanted to move the fans from the ML suite to other boxes but, and this is the important bit, they (or NC as he runs everything) backed down! you cant have it both ways. he cant be a control freak who gets what he wants , who then backs down! what is wrong with NC running the club how he wants? thats what he was told to do. ML had faith in him and put him in charge and thats good enough for me! he is running a football club and it is not a democracy! why do you think having one man in charge of the business side of the club is so wrong? what piece of infomation anywhere leads you to say that he picks the team? or the players we buy? NA is a man of great integrity, shown by his refusal to quit scunny until they had compensation, and i do not believe for 1 min that he would allow NC to pick the team or players! what is in that for NA, because if it were true then everyone else would know hes not the manager and he wouldnt get another managers job again! what those of you who have a problem with NC need to do is show the facts for your accusations, and stop just making things up to suit your own agenda`s. what NC has done for this club since the takeover is nothing short of miraculous! we have gone from L1 to the prem in no time at all and want to progress higher, yet this is not good enough for some of you! what is it you want?[/p][/quote]If only everybody saw it your way. Totally agree. Cortese, Lowe, Askham. Pick the one who's taken us the furthest. The club was a shambles until he came along. Everybody thinks he's just a banker. His previous employment was (quoted from Wiki) "He was involved for ten years in sports business practice as head of the sports and entertainment desk at various Swiss banks, providing global services to sports and entertainment professionals. His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires. He had previously run the sports business desk for Credit Suisse." Not a bad CV.[/p][/quote]Got as far as these two posts - the ones that make the most sense - and couldn't be bothered to read any further because there's so much 'from what I've heard' and 'it's well known in the city' b0ll0cks on here I gave up. It's not that I think NC hasn't made any mistakes, but I'd like to think even his biggest critics can see from one quick glance at the football tables how far we have come 'despite' him. Well done Billy and Horse101 for the logic but I fear those with anti-NC prejudice will never budge.[/p][/quote]Like x 3 ;0) randre

2:45pm Wed 10 Oct 12

MGRA says...

the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem... MGRA

3:18pm Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
You bit at my little tease!
As I thought nothing constructive
Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive.
You have no point
That's a bit blunt!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]You bit at my little tease![/p][/quote]As I thought nothing constructive[/p][/quote]Once I have made my point I don't like repeat it over and over again, there is no point in being repetitive.[/p][/quote]You have no point[/p][/quote]That's a bit blunt! OSPREYSAINT

3:20pm Wed 10 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Osprey, explain.
I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas?
I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no?
Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.
Promise that you will ignor me, suits me fine.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Osprey, explain. I clearly pointed out a few areas that needed improving, have you any better ideas? I have concentrated on the corporate issue as is the theme of the thread. All bar 2 are empty, fact. If they got filled surely a bit of money is better than none, no? Your posts as chicken lickens offer little or no thought provoking. You tend to just react to others, abusing those that don't agree with the majority. You are a fence dweller and unless you have anything of use to post in the future I will ignore you.[/p][/quote]Promise that you will ignor me, suits me fine. OSPREYSAINT

3:55pm Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
About right.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]About right. ghk230473

4:26pm Wed 10 Oct 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

I've become bored with all this arguing. Both sides just accept that there are opinions which differ from your own.

Also, can you stop slagging off those of us that sit in the Northam? We aren't mongs. It's justa different section. I know people that like Cortese, I know people that don't so you've just managed to call some people that agree with you worshipers of Cortese and/or mongs. I suggest you all grow up and stop acting as petulant as the Echo can be at times.
I've become bored with all this arguing. Both sides just accept that there are opinions which differ from your own. Also, can you stop slagging off those of us that sit in the Northam? We aren't mongs. It's justa different section. I know people that like Cortese, I know people that don't so you've just managed to call some people that agree with you worshipers of Cortese and/or mongs. I suggest you all grow up and stop acting as petulant as the Echo can be at times. ShakeyWiffles

5:06pm Wed 10 Oct 12

tugboat says...

Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?.
I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else.
This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring.
Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it.
If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies.
I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit.
This is saints support the club holistically or go away.
Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?. I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else. This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring. Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it. If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies. I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit. This is saints support the club holistically or go away. tugboat

5:36pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating
. So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating . So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago? Tye-Dye pt2

5:59pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me.

Jus' sayin'
Like! (sorry Seed)
So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in!
Unfaking believable
Not sure what your anger-management issues are, but I feel rather relieved that you bring them here rather than taking them into the streets. (Assuming that's the case, of course.)
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me. Jus' sayin'[/p][/quote]Like! (sorry Seed)[/p][/quote]So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in! Unfaking believable[/p][/quote]Not sure what your anger-management issues are, but I feel rather relieved that you bring them here rather than taking them into the streets. (Assuming that's the case, of course.) Strasbourg Saint

6:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me.

Jus' sayin'
Like! (sorry Seed)
So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in!
Unfaking believable
Not sure what your anger-management issues are, but I feel rather relieved that you bring them here rather than taking them into the streets. (Assuming that's the case, of course.)
Still trying to look down at others perched on the fence! Lmfao
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: Frankly a story about what happens in hospitality suites that cost more than most people's wages for a year is a bit prawn sandwichy for me. Jus' sayin'[/p][/quote]Like! (sorry Seed)[/p][/quote]So no one interested about selling boxes (most are empty) that would generate a nice large sum of money?.............. Nice one let's go and put our heads back in! Unfaking believable[/p][/quote]Not sure what your anger-management issues are, but I feel rather relieved that you bring them here rather than taking them into the streets. (Assuming that's the case, of course.)[/p][/quote]Still trying to look down at others perched on the fence! Lmfao ghk230473

7:28pm Wed 10 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

tugboat wrote:
Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?.
I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else.
This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring.
Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it.
If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies.
I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit.
This is saints support the club holistically or go away.
Frank Garfield, security quotes "schwi is a nasty boss man who removes his cuban heeled loafas when counting past 10!
Lol
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?. I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else. This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring. Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it. If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies. I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit. This is saints support the club holistically or go away.[/p][/quote]Frank Garfield, security quotes "schwi is a nasty boss man who removes his cuban heeled loafas when counting past 10! Lol ghk230473

7:41pm Wed 10 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating

. So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?
I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating . So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?[/p][/quote]I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-) MGRA

7:50pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

MGRA wrote:
Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating


. So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?
I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-)
Then I was equally a pratt, & for the last year and a bit a banned from the DE pratt(deserved on my behalf). Good to lay that one to rest after all this time, we'll never see eye to eye on NC but I do respect your view.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating . So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?[/p][/quote]I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-)[/p][/quote]Then I was equally a pratt, & for the last year and a bit a banned from the DE pratt(deserved on my behalf). Good to lay that one to rest after all this time, we'll never see eye to eye on NC but I do respect your view. Tye-Dye pt2

8:04pm Wed 10 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

What part of supporter do some of these people not understand?
NC is not perfect, but some of these criticisms are just plain silly.
We are not the only club with empty expensive boxes.
It is neccesary to look at this problem as will other clubs.
Do not forget that we needed to close the corners of the ground for a while because of financial stress for fans.
What part of supporter do some of these people not understand? NC is not perfect, but some of these criticisms are just plain silly. We are not the only club with empty expensive boxes. It is neccesary to look at this problem as will other clubs. Do not forget that we needed to close the corners of the ground for a while because of financial stress for fans. dadofmy3sons

8:08pm Wed 10 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating



. So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?
I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-)
Then I was equally a pratt, & for the last year and a bit a banned from the DE pratt(deserved on my behalf). Good to lay that one to rest after all this time, we'll never see eye to eye on NC but I do respect your view.
Everyone has different views on NC depending on their dealings with him. I am related to one of the ex-directors of SFC... I am also related to an ex-corporate box holder who "felt the need" not to renew and now has a corporate pen at professional sports club in London ...but despite what I know I still think NC has been a boon to the club overall. slightly worried tho about the moon music this week but I am sure it will pass......
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]I dont believe I am going to type this but well said, a very even & balanced view of all this NC bashing/appreciating . So, if this is the case then why the hell did we kick off with each other regarding him all those months ago?[/p][/quote]I have no idea... I can be a pratt sometimes !!! ;-)[/p][/quote]Then I was equally a pratt, & for the last year and a bit a banned from the DE pratt(deserved on my behalf). Good to lay that one to rest after all this time, we'll never see eye to eye on NC but I do respect your view.[/p][/quote]Everyone has different views on NC depending on their dealings with him. I am related to one of the ex-directors of SFC... I am also related to an ex-corporate box holder who "felt the need" not to renew and now has a corporate pen at professional sports club in London ...but despite what I know I still think NC has been a boon to the club overall. slightly worried tho about the moon music this week but I am sure it will pass...... MGRA

2:45am Thu 11 Oct 12

st1halo says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC.
There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey.
Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC.
Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless.
No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC!
FFS!! ....Really?????
*hits head against wall in disbelief whilst kicking the cat*
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: NC may have tried to persuade ML to invest in Saints but never forget it was ML who took the financial risk not NC. There's a world of difference between being the organ grinder and the monkey. Sadly we will never know how ML would view the management style of NC. Given NC's track record I believe that any fair minded person would view him as being egotistical, arrogant and ruthless. No wonder NA doesn't fear the sack. The downside would be he would have to get another job, which with NA's credentials would not be difficult, the upside would be he would escape the overbearing shadow of NC![/p][/quote]FFS!! ....Really????? *hits head against wall in disbelief whilst kicking the cat* st1halo

2:49am Thu 11 Oct 12

st1halo says...

So we're all in agreement then, Cortese is King, lets move on!

STID
So we're all in agreement then, Cortese is King, lets move on! STID st1halo

11:59am Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?.
I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else.
This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring.
Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it.
If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies.
I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit.
This is saints support the club holistically or go away.
Frank Garfield, security quotes "schwi is a nasty boss man who removes his cuban heeled loafas when counting past 10!
Lol
Well I hope you find Frank a new job when the news filters through, he will love you too, I expect.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Im a sit on the fence merchant regards the echo ,but good grief,"Saints back down",Is just designed to antagonise as the above posts prove, what is wrong with the local press?what ever happened to supporting your local premier league club ?. I request that if the echo has an axe to grind with Nicola Cortese,grow a pair and sit across the table from him and sort it out,for the sanity of the supporters if nothing else. This constant waiting in the wings for someone at SMS to sneeze in the wrong direction is just frecking boring. Oh and if any poster wants to declare,no-one at SMS likes cortese ,prove it with a quote from an employee or button it. If you post that you know inside info,back it up ladies. I hope that gaston,s injury is not to serious,the U21,s were brilliant and Artur Boruc (great keeper)is getting match fit. This is saints support the club holistically or go away.[/p][/quote]Frank Garfield, security quotes "schwi is a nasty boss man who removes his cuban heeled loafas when counting past 10! Lol[/p][/quote]Well I hope you find Frank a new job when the news filters through, he will love you too, I expect. OSPREYSAINT

12:06pm Thu 11 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...
About right.
But it won't stop your nonsense will it?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: the "anti-NC" prejudice is a complete myth. Its just people calling it as they see it. One example.... NC boycotts the echo group whilst happily failing to see ( or ignoring ) that its part of a syndicated paper group with a wide reach. Of course the corporate boxes are empty.... no one is marketing them properly... Of course he has been good for the club on the whole but he has his failings like anyone else and his background is in banking not commercial revenue at a football club. Its not anti-anyone simply to state things are not perfect or that bad decisions are being made.... people sung his praises for stinging away fans and charging them a fortune to park at SMS for away games travel saying things like "it makes good business sense",,,, err no it does not if it stops people wanting to use the service.... I think the pro / anti NC stuff is getting childish really, he is not perfect, but without him I am certain we would not be where we are today with a 50/50 chance or better of staying in the Prem...[/p][/quote]About right.[/p][/quote]But it won't stop your nonsense will it? OSPREYSAINT

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