Lallana up there with Premier League's best (From Daily Echo)

Puddletown Saint says...
8:39am Fri 12 Oct 12

Ability is not enough to play for England as Le God found out

Their loss is our gain - Lets hope Adam will always see club loyalty before international honours although he deserves both

How are the sleepless nights Adam

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Alicesdad says...
8:57am Fri 12 Oct 12

Still no news then?

It's not the Echo's fault, but it does get bring when there's nothing to report. Then one of these sideline threads will come up with a completely unrelated theme and we will be off !!

So what shall we talk about today then?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:01am Fri 12 Oct 12

It is a postive thread even if does rather state the obvious, a couple of goals would build up his confidence and there is more to come in my opinion. Arthur permitting!

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franiow says...
9:10am Fri 12 Oct 12

Promotion to the PL will give Adam the chance to prove if he is the real deal. No place to hide now. He will have to play at the top of his game every week. Sure he can and so far so good. Very important that no one is allowed to tackle him too hard in training.

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sotonman2012 says...
9:17am Fri 12 Oct 12

Adam Lallana will be a England regular providing a Englishman remains head coach same goes for James Ward Prowse

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saintand266 says...
9:17am Fri 12 Oct 12

Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?

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Alicesdad says...
9:22am Fri 12 Oct 12

They are as good if not better than any others currently playing.

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saintand266 says...
9:38am Fri 12 Oct 12

Our under 21s are more than holding there own against the big clubs in the under21s premier league but then we always have produced some of the best talent in the country only for the big clubs to come and tempt them with big money offers , hopefully we can put a change to that and who knows maybe have four or five saints players in an England team

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Red n White says...
9:50am Fri 12 Oct 12

Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?

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Dave Juson says...
10:19am Fri 12 Oct 12

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?

The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
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Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?

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St Retford says...
10:55am Fri 12 Oct 12

Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?

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RedArmy1 says...
10:57am Fri 12 Oct 12

I can appreciate that Nigel wants the captaincy to be with one of the old established players.

Let Adam concentrate on his football only and the goals will come.

The other issue is Nigel and his use of subs :

In the Championship - he had options on the bench to make an impact. At the moment - the cupboard seems bare and when he does make his changes it affects the balance of the team when they often go on to concede goals late on.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE TOUGHEST LEAGUE OF THE ALL.

WE GO TO WET SPAM TO WIN.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SAINTS.

COYR

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON

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Dickosfc says...
11:02am Fri 12 Oct 12

In my opinion, the quicker the players can relax and enjoy their football in the premier league the better!! Stating the obvious I know, but if it wasn’t for naïve and quite frankly ‘shocking’ defending we’d be sitting in mid table now. We’d all be relaxed and loving it (including the players) and games like Fulham at home wouldn’t have such a generally tense atmosphere. The team would have played with a much more relaxed freedom and not so worried about where the next error would come from and no doubt (with 90 mins of concentration) we would have stuffed Fulham!

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billythesaint says...
11:12am Fri 12 Oct 12

Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:14am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?

Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.

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St Retford says...
11:14am Fri 12 Oct 12

billythesaint wrote:
Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in.

Never a truer word spoken.

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rossofficial10 says...
11:15am Fri 12 Oct 12

im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week.

i can only pray.

ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:18am Fri 12 Oct 12

Dave Juson wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
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Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?

The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:21am Fri 12 Oct 12

rossofficial10 wrote:
im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week.

i can only pray.

ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in?

Can only sign unattached players and there is only one vacant space in the senior nominated 25 places.

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Folkestone Saint says...
11:21am Fri 12 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?

Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:28am Fri 12 Oct 12

Dave Juson wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
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Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?

On the Saints OS it says "Due to extensive building works taking place at the training ground, attendance at U18 games will be limited. Family members or scouts wishing to attend games should make a written or verbal request to the Training Ground and, wherever possible, we will confirm your request with an invitation to attend the game. Please note that there will be no car parking facilities at the Training Ground.
Tickets are not available to be purchased for U18 matches.

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Chriops says...
11:35am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
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Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.

I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me...

The club has a vision to play in Europe...
It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development...

It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent.

Well done Mr Cortese.
Thank you Markus RIP.

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St Retford says...
11:45am Fri 12 Oct 12

Folkestone Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.

But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him.

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saintand266 says...
11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.

Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman

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SouthamptonLegend says...
11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?

Hooiveld must be a chart topper too! He's scored a few this season already! lol

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:49am Fri 12 Oct 12

Chriops wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
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Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.
I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me...

The club has a vision to play in Europe...
It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development...

It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent.

Well done Mr Cortese.
Thank you Markus RIP.

Absolutely but I just wish they let us into the secret!

[quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?[/p][/quote]The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.[/p][/quote]I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me... The club has a vision to play in Europe... It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development... It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent. Well done Mr Cortese. Thank you Markus RIP.[/p][/quote]Absolutely but I just wish they let us into the secret! OSPREYSAINT

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Beer Monster says...
11:53am Fri 12 Oct 12

Messi? He's sh1te...

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Folkestone Saint says...
11:58am Fri 12 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.
But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him.

SO thats why we sing he makes Messi look not very good, I never realised I was in the company of so many well informed people, and they say footie fans are fick innit bruv

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:35pm Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman

I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it.

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ghk230473 says...
6:00pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

saintand266 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman
I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it.

Bhaa

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dadofmy3sons says...
7:29pm Fri 12 Oct 12

ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

I wish Lala was playing tonight, England couldn't hit a barn door with banjo.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:36pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Penalty Rooney

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:39pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Wellbeck would ewe believe it?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Bale is giving Fox nightmares but the Jocks are 1 up.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:05pm Fri 12 Oct 12

NI losing 0 4 to Germany

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:30pm Fri 12 Oct 12

2 for Roo I seem to be on my own here tonight where's the rest of the flock?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

2 for Welbeck, never doubted them for a minute.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Bale got a Pen for Wales 1 1 not Foxes fault, Maloney did the dirty deed

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:36pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Oxo the gravy goal

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:38pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Bales are 2 0 up sorry Wales

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:39pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Sorry 2 1 up, bah!

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:42pm Fri 12 Oct 12

The sheep in the leisure centres are getting worried tonight.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:44pm Fri 12 Oct 12

NI 1 6 to Germany

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Japan 1 France 0 Clean sheet for Yosh

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ghk230473 says...
9:14am Sat 13 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !

? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:58am Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.

Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons. OSPREYSAINT

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ghk230473 says...
4:28pm Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.

I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that. ghk230473

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:02pm Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.

Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why? OSPREYSAINT

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ghk230473 says...
6:18pm Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?

Just an effectionate nick name;)

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;) ghk230473

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:43pm Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
Just an effectionate nick name;)

Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;)[/p][/quote]Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean. OSPREYSAINT

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ghk230473 says...
7:11pm Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
Just an effectionate nick name;)
Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.

You'd rather argue the toss over a petty abrehviation! That's you all over.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;)[/p][/quote]Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.[/p][/quote]You'd rather argue the toss over a petty abrehviation! That's you all over. ghk230473

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:44am Sun 14 Oct 12

The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.

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ghk230473 says...
5:40pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.

Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:28pm Sun 14 Oct 12

I am sorry that you feel the need to be offensive, fair enough, don't expect any mercy.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
6:52pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !

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ghk230473 says...
7:48pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !

It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!!
Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon.

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ghk230473 says...
7:57pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:22pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill

Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:25pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !
It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!!
Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon.

He was debating but asked you not to be rude. You ignored his request. It's there in black and white. Change your approach, make your points without being rude, and my bet is he will happily debate. Try it.

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ghk230473 says...
8:40pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?

Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:45pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too

I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.

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ghk230473 says...
8:52pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.

Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:02pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?

Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view.

I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view. I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:08pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill

No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:11pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation.

It did go legal but may have been settled, it was a while ago now.

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ghk230473 says...
9:13pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?
Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view.

I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.

Time will tell. This is where I stand at the moment. Not keen on schwi but hope I'm proved wrong, no better manager available and feel Adkins needs and deserves time to prove himself even if we do drop down. He's made mistakes but they could have come off and he would have been hailed a genius.
I see sfc with our facilities as a mid table premier league club and I will settle for that.......... With attractive football, back to 2003 please, happy days!

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view. I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.[/p][/quote]Time will tell. This is where I stand at the moment. Not keen on schwi but hope I'm proved wrong, no better manager available and feel Adkins needs and deserves time to prove himself even if we do drop down. He's made mistakes but they could have come off and he would have been hailed a genius. I see sfc with our facilities as a mid table premier league club and I will settle for that.......... With attractive football, back to 2003 please, happy days! ghk230473

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:18pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?

Judging by last Sunday it is obvious that Club has decided to do the Programme selling from in house sources, rather than asking for volunteers, can't see anything odd about that, but I didn't like the way that it was carried out, but apart from some hearsay on chat sites I don't have any evidence that there was anything untoward going on. I have already expressed my opinion about the Corporate Box situation, it seems that they are being refurbrished and looking for new takers at a time where money is tight, there are not many taking up the offer. Again it is supposition from reading between the lines, I have no credible evidence just opinions from what I have gleaned from various web sites. Unless you have definite evidence posting rumours can only be damaging so think before you post.

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Judging by last Sunday it is obvious that Club has decided to do the Programme selling from in house sources, rather than asking for volunteers, can't see anything odd about that, but I didn't like the way that it was carried out, but apart from some hearsay on chat sites I don't have any evidence that there was anything untoward going on. I have already expressed my opinion about the Corporate Box situation, it seems that they are being refurbrished and looking for new takers at a time where money is tight, there are not many taking up the offer. Again it is supposition from reading between the lines, I have no credible evidence just opinions from what I have gleaned from various web sites. Unless you have definite evidence posting rumours can only be damaging so think before you post. OSPREYSAINT

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:41pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill

The problem here was lack of any tangible information, I have tried hard to find evidence of a Court case and have come up with nothing, I cannot believe it is still ongoing so I would imagine an out of court settlement was done. The Daily Mail is the only paper to publish anything concrete, but even that was based on hearsay by all accounts. It is nearly two years ago when it all blew up. Nothing good can come of pursuing it, just historic and no way relevant to what has happened since or will happen in the future. It is not much of a stick to beat anyone with don't you think?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:45pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill

Did you know Franny got an award for his Curry recipe, hot stuff that guy.

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st1halo says...
12:55am Mon 15 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too

Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola

STID

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st1halo says...
1:13am Mon 15 Oct 12

I think you're worrying too much about matters that shouldn't concern you ghk.
The only thing that matters is what happens on the blades of grass at St.Marys. Get that right and in a financially sound manner and everything else will fall into place. This business will live or die on what goes on there. We pay to watch good football, if we were playing Real Madrid next week and Barcelona the week after I doubt if you would worry about who sold you your programme, and a true saints fan wouldn't care if their function room or box doubled up as the toilets if we played like Brazil. NC wll do things his way, not how we might do things maybe but we have to trust him. Getting things right on the pitch is ALL we should care about, the incidentals will take care of themselves

STID

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:22am Mon 15 Oct 12

st1halo wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola

STID

Amen!

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Snebs says...
11:50pm Mon 15 Oct 12

I still think there will be changes if we don't get a result on Saturday at West Ham. The Senior management team at SFC will not allow us to lose our place in the EPL. If we lose I believe NA will be relieved of his duties and replaced by an experienced Manager to steady the ship. Either that or we will see a Director of football put in over NA to add experience. It's is a pure guess but I would suggest Raffa Benitez may well be working at St Marys soon. COYS!!!!!

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PTID1898 says...
7:26am Tue 16 Oct 12

Come on West Ham!!!!!

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lowe esteem says...
1:13pm Wed 17 Oct 12

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.
Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha

Good, cos most of your stupid abbreviations fall on deaf ears, and 'on the hole' the rest of your contribution shows you up as a repeatedly bitter and ignorant contributor.

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