Adam Lallana among the Premier League's most creative players

Daily Echo: Lallana up there with Premier League's best Lallana up there with Premier League's best

What do Adam Lallana and multi-million pound Chelsea stars Juan Mata and Eden Hazard all have in common?

The answer is that they have been the most creative players in the Premier League so far this season.

Lallana, Mata and Hazard currently share top spot in the division’s assists table, with each of them having directly laid on four goals.

It is exalted company that the Saints midfield maestro is keeping.

Spanish international Mata and Belgian wizard Hazard cost Chelsea a combined fee of about £55m.

Lallana, on the other hand, was acquired for a few thousand pounds, plus a 25 per cent sell on clause, from Bournemouth when he was 12-years-old.

It has proved to be quite a piece of business.

Now valued at millions of pounds himself, Lallana has come through the ranks and emerged into one of Saints’ most pivotal players.

His rise was complete this summer when he was handed the captain’s armband by manager Nigel Adkins.

Lallana’s performances in the early part of the season did not just earn him praise, though.

They also resulted in a call-up for England, as Roy Hodgson drafted him into the squad at late notice for the World Cup qualifier against Ukraine, at Wembley, last month.

Lallana had to be content with a role as an unused substitute, but it was another landmark moment in his burgeoning career.

The 24-year-old, who has helped Saints fight all the way from League One back into the top flight, made his 200th appearance for the club in last Sunday’s 2-2 draw with Fulham, at St Mary’s.

During the promotion-winning campaigns in 2010/11 and 2011/12, the midfielder accounted for a total of 19 goals and 21 assists.

And, although he is yet to score his first Premier League goal, Lallana is proving a serious threat at the top level.

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8:39am Fri 12 Oct 12

Puddletown Saint says...

Ability is not enough to play for England as Le God found out

Their loss is our gain - Lets hope Adam will always see club loyalty before international honours although he deserves both

How are the sleepless nights Adam
Ability is not enough to play for England as Le God found out Their loss is our gain - Lets hope Adam will always see club loyalty before international honours although he deserves both How are the sleepless nights Adam Puddletown Saint

8:57am Fri 12 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

Still no news then?

It's not the Echo's fault, but it does get bring when there's nothing to report. Then one of these sideline threads will come up with a completely unrelated theme and we will be off !!

So what shall we talk about today then?
Still no news then? It's not the Echo's fault, but it does get bring when there's nothing to report. Then one of these sideline threads will come up with a completely unrelated theme and we will be off !! So what shall we talk about today then? Alicesdad

9:01am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

It is a postive thread even if does rather state the obvious, a couple of goals would build up his confidence and there is more to come in my opinion. Arthur permitting!
It is a postive thread even if does rather state the obvious, a couple of goals would build up his confidence and there is more to come in my opinion. Arthur permitting! OSPREYSAINT

9:10am Fri 12 Oct 12

franiow says...

Promotion to the PL will give Adam the chance to prove if he is the real deal. No place to hide now. He will have to play at the top of his game every week. Sure he can and so far so good. Very important that no one is allowed to tackle him too hard in training.
Promotion to the PL will give Adam the chance to prove if he is the real deal. No place to hide now. He will have to play at the top of his game every week. Sure he can and so far so good. Very important that no one is allowed to tackle him too hard in training. franiow

9:17am Fri 12 Oct 12

sotonman2012 says...

Adam Lallana will be a England regular providing a Englishman remains head coach same goes for James Ward Prowse
Adam Lallana will be a England regular providing a Englishman remains head coach same goes for James Ward Prowse sotonman2012

9:17am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ? saintand266

9:22am Fri 12 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

They are as good if not better than any others currently playing.
They are as good if not better than any others currently playing. Alicesdad

9:38am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

Our under 21s are more than holding there own against the big clubs in the under21s premier league but then we always have produced some of the best talent in the country only for the big clubs to come and tempt them with big money offers , hopefully we can put a change to that and who knows maybe have four or five saints players in an England team
Our under 21s are more than holding there own against the big clubs in the under21s premier league but then we always have produced some of the best talent in the country only for the big clubs to come and tempt them with big money offers , hopefully we can put a change to that and who knows maybe have four or five saints players in an England team saintand266

9:50am Fri 12 Oct 12

Red n White says...

Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website? Red n White

10:19am Fri 12 Oct 12

Dave Juson says...

Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
.
Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter? Dave Juson

10:55am Fri 12 Oct 12

St Retford says...

Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football? St Retford

10:57am Fri 12 Oct 12

RedArmy1 says...

I can appreciate that Nigel wants the captaincy to be with one of the old established players.

Let Adam concentrate on his football only and the goals will come.

The other issue is Nigel and his use of subs :

In the Championship - he had options on the bench to make an impact. At the moment - the cupboard seems bare and when he does make his changes it affects the balance of the team when they often go on to concede goals late on.

WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE TOUGHEST LEAGUE OF THE ALL.

WE GO TO WET SPAM TO WIN.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SAINTS.

COYR











WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON
I can appreciate that Nigel wants the captaincy to be with one of the old established players. Let Adam concentrate on his football only and the goals will come. The other issue is Nigel and his use of subs : In the Championship - he had options on the bench to make an impact. At the moment - the cupboard seems bare and when he does make his changes it affects the balance of the team when they often go on to concede goals late on. WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT IN THE TOUGHEST LEAGUE OF THE ALL. WE GO TO WET SPAM TO WIN. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SAINTS. COYR WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON RedArmy1

11:02am Fri 12 Oct 12

Dickosfc says...

In my opinion, the quicker the players can relax and enjoy their football in the premier league the better!! Stating the obvious I know, but if it wasn’t for naïve and quite frankly ‘shocking’ defending we’d be sitting in mid table now. We’d all be relaxed and loving it (including the players) and games like Fulham at home wouldn’t have such a generally tense atmosphere. The team would have played with a much more relaxed freedom and not so worried about where the next error would come from and no doubt (with 90 mins of concentration) we would have stuffed Fulham!
In my opinion, the quicker the players can relax and enjoy their football in the premier league the better!! Stating the obvious I know, but if it wasn’t for naïve and quite frankly ‘shocking’ defending we’d be sitting in mid table now. We’d all be relaxed and loving it (including the players) and games like Fulham at home wouldn’t have such a generally tense atmosphere. The team would have played with a much more relaxed freedom and not so worried about where the next error would come from and no doubt (with 90 mins of concentration) we would have stuffed Fulham! Dickosfc

11:12am Fri 12 Oct 12

billythesaint says...

Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in.
Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in. billythesaint

11:14am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?[/p][/quote]Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record. OSPREYSAINT

11:14am Fri 12 Oct 12

St Retford says...

billythesaint wrote:
Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in.
Never a truer word spoken.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Flair players rarely make it into the England starting 11. That's why we win fvck all. Put him in.[/p][/quote]Never a truer word spoken. St Retford

11:15am Fri 12 Oct 12

rossofficial10 says...

im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week.

i can only pray.

ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in?
im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week. i can only pray. ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in? rossofficial10

11:18am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
.
Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?[/p][/quote]The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened. OSPREYSAINT

11:21am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

rossofficial10 wrote:
im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week.

i can only pray.

ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in?
Can only sign unattached players and there is only one vacant space in the senior nominated 25 places.
[quote][p][bold]rossofficial10[/bold] wrote: im assuming hoovield is working on clearing ball into touch rather than scoring own goals every week. i can only pray. ps, why cant we get some loan defenders in?[/p][/quote]Can only sign unattached players and there is only one vacant space in the senior nominated 25 places. OSPREYSAINT

11:21am Fri 12 Oct 12

Folkestone Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?[/p][/quote]Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused. Folkestone Saint

11:28am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
.
Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
On the Saints OS it says "Due to extensive building works taking place at the training ground, attendance at U18 games will be limited. Family members or scouts wishing to attend games should make a written or verbal request to the Training Ground and, wherever possible, we will confirm your request with an invitation to attend the game. Please note that there will be no car parking facilities at the Training Ground.
Tickets are not available to be purchased for U18 matches.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?[/p][/quote]On the Saints OS it says "Due to extensive building works taking place at the training ground, attendance at U18 games will be limited. Family members or scouts wishing to attend games should make a written or verbal request to the Training Ground and, wherever possible, we will confirm your request with an invitation to attend the game. Please note that there will be no car parking facilities at the Training Ground. Tickets are not available to be purchased for U18 matches. OSPREYSAINT

11:35am Fri 12 Oct 12

Chriops says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
.
Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.
I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me...

The club has a vision to play in Europe...
It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development...

It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent.

Well done Mr Cortese.
Thank you Markus RIP.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?[/p][/quote]The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.[/p][/quote]I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me... The club has a vision to play in Europe... It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development... It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent. Well done Mr Cortese. Thank you Markus RIP. Chriops

11:45am Fri 12 Oct 12

St Retford says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.
But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?[/p][/quote]Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.[/p][/quote]But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him. St Retford

11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?[/p][/quote]Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.[/p][/quote]Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman saintand266

11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend says...

saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Hooiveld must be a chart topper too! He's scored a few this season already! lol
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?[/p][/quote]Hooiveld must be a chart topper too! He's scored a few this season already! lol SouthamptonLegend

11:49am Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chriops wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday.
At least it's a positive story.
Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players.
The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?
The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped.
.
Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?
The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.
I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me...

The club has a vision to play in Europe...
It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development...

It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent.

Well done Mr Cortese.
Thank you Markus RIP.
Absolutely but I just wish they let us into the secret!
[quote][p][bold]Chriops[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: Keep up Echo, I mentioned this after the Fulham game last Sunday. At least it's a positive story. Why don't the Echo do more reports on our Under 18 and Under 21 teams? Surely fans are going to be interested in how the youngsters are doing given the new league format and the club's interest in producing their own players. The U18's beat Man Utd last week and the U21's drew, where was a report or even a mention of this on this website?[/p][/quote]The Echo’s Saints reporters are far too important to hang out at training grounds in the obscure parts of the country where most of the Under-18 and Under-21 games are played and, for reasons they choose not to discuss honestly, they are banned from the “press deck” at St Mary’s. I do not know whether they are allowed entry on matchdays at Staplewood as “fans”, as they are at St Mary’s, but I can’t see how they can be stopped. . Perhaps somebody at the Echo might care to enlighten us on the matter?[/p][/quote]The Under 18's are at La Manga and beat a Real Murcia team 3 - 2 yesterday, had no idea that it was happening and finding details was difficult, if it wasn't for some Twitter tweets I would still not know it had happened.[/p][/quote]I was also unaware of this fixture, but in many ways this doesn't surprise me... The club has a vision to play in Europe... It also wants 50% of the first team to come from our Youth development... It is just another example that the club not only has a vision of our future, but also are putting plans in place to make sure that when we get into Europe, our 'kids' will already have a certain amount of experience of playing on the continent. Well done Mr Cortese. Thank you Markus RIP.[/p][/quote]Absolutely but I just wish they let us into the secret! OSPREYSAINT

11:53am Fri 12 Oct 12

Beer Monster says...

Messi? He's sh1te...
Messi? He's sh1te... Beer Monster

11:58am Fri 12 Oct 12

Folkestone Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?
Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.
But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him.
SO thats why we sing he makes Messi look not very good, I never realised I was in the company of so many well informed people, and they say footie fans are fick innit bruv
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Interesting thing about the surname Lallana is that it's an Argentinian variant of the Spanish name 'Lalana', which means our Adam's DNA can be traced back to the same place as Lionel Messi. I'm not an expert in science, but is it any wonder the two play such similar football?[/p][/quote]Are you drinking what Confucious is, I read the blog then checked the name and was confused.[/p][/quote]But this is SCIENCE. You can't argue with science because it has graphs and tables and things. I've just demonstrably proved beyond all doubt that Adam Lallana is genetically pre-programmed to be better than Messi. We're lucky to have him.[/p][/quote]SO thats why we sing he makes Messi look not very good, I never realised I was in the company of so many well informed people, and they say footie fans are fick innit bruv Folkestone Saint

2:35pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman
I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?[/p][/quote]Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.[/p][/quote]Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman[/p][/quote]I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it. OSPREYSAINT

6:00pm Fri 12 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintand266 wrote:
Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?
Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.
Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman
I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it.
Bhaa
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Surely Guly and Fox should be top of the assist tables as they are to blame for all the goals other teams have scored against us ?[/p][/quote]Boring, repetetive, and untrue, please change the record.[/p][/quote]Osprey I was being sarcastic towards all the knockers of our players on here , I have never blamed any individual for any goals conceaded this season . Any player who puts on the red and white (pin stripes)get my full backing and support no matter what as does the manager and chairman[/p][/quote]I know how you feel, good irony I fell for it.[/p][/quote]Bhaa ghk230473

7:29pm Fri 12 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ! dadofmy3sons

8:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I wish Lala was playing tonight, England couldn't hit a barn door with banjo.
I wish Lala was playing tonight, England couldn't hit a barn door with banjo. OSPREYSAINT

8:36pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Penalty Rooney
Penalty Rooney OSPREYSAINT

8:39pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Wellbeck would ewe believe it?
Wellbeck would ewe believe it? OSPREYSAINT

8:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bale is giving Fox nightmares but the Jocks are 1 up.
Bale is giving Fox nightmares but the Jocks are 1 up. OSPREYSAINT

9:05pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

NI losing 0 4 to Germany
NI losing 0 4 to Germany OSPREYSAINT

9:30pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 for Roo I seem to be on my own here tonight where's the rest of the flock?
2 for Roo I seem to be on my own here tonight where's the rest of the flock? OSPREYSAINT

9:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 for Welbeck, never doubted them for a minute.
2 for Welbeck, never doubted them for a minute. OSPREYSAINT

9:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bale got a Pen for Wales 1 1 not Foxes fault, Maloney did the dirty deed
Bale got a Pen for Wales 1 1 not Foxes fault, Maloney did the dirty deed OSPREYSAINT

9:36pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Oxo the gravy goal
Oxo the gravy goal OSPREYSAINT

9:38pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bales are 2 0 up sorry Wales
Bales are 2 0 up sorry Wales OSPREYSAINT

9:39pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sorry 2 1 up, bah!
Sorry 2 1 up, bah! OSPREYSAINT

9:42pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The sheep in the leisure centres are getting worried tonight.
The sheep in the leisure centres are getting worried tonight. OSPREYSAINT

9:44pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

NI 1 6 to Germany
NI 1 6 to Germany OSPREYSAINT

10:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Japan 1 France 0 Clean sheet for Yosh
Japan 1 France 0 Clean sheet for Yosh OSPREYSAINT

9:14am Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future. ghk230473

11:58am Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons. OSPREYSAINT

4:28pm Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that. ghk230473

6:02pm Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why? OSPREYSAINT

6:18pm Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
Just an effectionate nick name;)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;) ghk230473

6:43pm Sat 13 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
Just an effectionate nick name;)
Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;)[/p][/quote]Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean. OSPREYSAINT

7:11pm Sat 13 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
ghk230473 ?
Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year?
Can't be both !
? Just concerned about my club.
Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team?
Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction!
I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.
Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.
I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold.
I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated!
I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same.
What does the team need at the moment? Support!
Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.
Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?
Just an effectionate nick name;)
Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.
You'd rather argue the toss over a petty abrehviation! That's you all over.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: ghk230473 ? Saints supporter or wannabe Echo controversial poster of the year? Can't be both ![/p][/quote]? Just concerned about my club. Contrary to popular belief but without the fans you don't have a club. Yes we were saved and have been in the ascendancy since however there are growing concerns. I for 1 would like to see a bit of transparency, does schwi think us fans are fragile and need to be protected from the harsh realities of running a premier league team? Corporate not being sold out must be leaving a black whole in our income, this is an area that needs to be sorted along with getting the stadium sold out for ALL games. Like it or not football needs media attention as a form of advertising. We have had the upset of ticket price increase along with the rip off charge per ticket when it should cover transaction! I would fully welcome an open interview between club and the echo, could be used as a reflection of where we were to are now including proposed plans/guide for the future.[/p][/quote]Apart from the disrespectful name calling of NC, this is a reasonable post, but isn't saying anything that we have not already said or want ourselves, why should any self respecting Saints supporter be assumed to not have similar concerns? Corporate not being sold out is a sign of the financial times not a fault with the club. I agree with you on the way they have gone about ticketing and prices, the one off charge for each individual ticket is nothing short of a rip off. One charge per transaction is the correct way to do it, or include it in the ticket price from the start. Even when the Stadium is "sold out" there still will be empty seats, through no shows for various reasons. There are allocated seats for the various other sides Academy, U18's and U21's who are often away playing their own games leaving areas of empty seats, which looks bad but isn't a loss of revenue as such. We would all like to receive more information coming out of the Club, it is frustrating being kept in the dark over injuries and players welfare, but the Club chose for their own reasons to keep it in house, I don't think they trust us to keep their secrets. Now if you can reply without the sheep comments and the disrepect of other individuals we will get on fine discussing the pros and cons.[/p][/quote]I'm not a fan of Lowe but when in the premier league we had more in attendance and more corporate boxes sold. I have been told the boxes look 'tired and dated! I think years ago Sunderland did a promotion and sold all their seats for games, we need to do the same. What does the team need at the moment? Support! Also, how can you buy into a club and not be interested in their history? Football has turned into a business but football is a feeling, an atmosphere, a movement, belonging, a togetherness! You lose that and the business has gone. For me schwi is losing that.[/p][/quote]Still had to be disrespectful at the end, why?[/p][/quote]Just an effectionate nick name;)[/p][/quote]Sorry mate you made it clear from the start it was disrespectful, just use NC we will all know what you mean.[/p][/quote]You'd rather argue the toss over a petty abrehviation! That's you all over. ghk230473

8:44am Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.
The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump. OSPREYSAINT

5:40pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.
Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.[/p][/quote]Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha ghk230473

6:28pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I am sorry that you feel the need to be offensive, fair enough, don't expect any mercy.
I am sorry that you feel the need to be offensive, fair enough, don't expect any mercy. OSPREYSAINT

6:52pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !
Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again. Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of ! Seedhouse the Unrepentant

7:48pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !
It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!!
Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again. Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of ![/p][/quote]It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!! Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon. ghk230473

7:57pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill ghk230473

8:22pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave? Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:25pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again.

Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of !
It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!!
Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon.
He was debating but asked you not to be rude. You ignored his request. It's there in black and white. Change your approach, make your points without being rude, and my bet is he will happily debate. Try it.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Come on ghk you and Osprey started to have a sensible debate, he asked you not to be disrespectful - a perfectly reasonable request - and you just couldn't do it so the whole thing descends into bickering again. Many of your points are good, but it's the presentation that lets you down - which funnily enough is exactly what you criticise NC of ![/p][/quote]It descends into bickering because of osprey's reluctance to debate. 1st excuse is because of my offensive abbreviation (alleged) and then spelling! I ask you!!!! Osprey sits on the fence then backs the majority, he may be a saints fan granted but before most he is a social chameleon.[/p][/quote]He was debating but asked you not to be rude. You ignored his request. It's there in black and white. Change your approach, make your points without being rude, and my bet is he will happily debate. Try it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:40pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too ghk230473

8:45pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:52pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved? ghk230473

9:02pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?
Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view.

I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view. I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:08pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation. OSPREYSAINT

9:11pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation.
It did go legal but may have been settled, it was a while ago now.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]No flood as far as I know, NC changed the flooring without asking permission to do it, and Franny saw red, nothing more sinister than that, no evidence of any litigation.[/p][/quote]It did go legal but may have been settled, it was a while ago now. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:13pm Sun 14 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?
Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view.

I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.
Time will tell. This is where I stand at the moment. Not keen on schwi but hope I'm proved wrong, no better manager available and feel Adkins needs and deserves time to prove himself even if we do drop down. He's made mistakes but they could have come off and he would have been hailed a genius.
I see sfc with our facilities as a mid table premier league club and I will settle for that.......... With attractive football, back to 2003 please, happy days!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Last season the club refurbished the ML suite (previously the MLT suite) this summer they did the Channon suite and the bogs. My guess is the boxes will be next - although I think they may have done some bits, I've not been in one yet this season but some of my co directors were invited by aap3 to the Villa game. They are currently over priced in my view. I doubt the programme sellers was about costs probably more to do with restructuring how the club does things - although I obviously don't know for sure.[/p][/quote]Time will tell. This is where I stand at the moment. Not keen on schwi but hope I'm proved wrong, no better manager available and feel Adkins needs and deserves time to prove himself even if we do drop down. He's made mistakes but they could have come off and he would have been hailed a genius. I see sfc with our facilities as a mid table premier league club and I will settle for that.......... With attractive football, back to 2003 please, happy days! ghk230473

9:18pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style.

NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.
Ok.
Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?
Judging by last Sunday it is obvious that Club has decided to do the Programme selling from in house sources, rather than asking for volunteers, can't see anything odd about that, but I didn't like the way that it was carried out, but apart from some hearsay on chat sites I don't have any evidence that there was anything untoward going on. I have already expressed my opinion about the Corporate Box situation, it seems that they are being refurbrished and looking for new takers at a time where money is tight, there are not many taking up the offer. Again it is supposition from reading between the lines, I have no credible evidence just opinions from what I have gleaned from various web sites. Unless you have definite evidence posting rumours can only be damaging so think before you post.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]I don't think we are going to get it I'm afraid. I run my business in a very open way and engage with staff, suppliers and customers it works for me but that's my style. NC comes from Switzerland which is a much more closed society than we are. He was also a banker to the very wealthy which is obviously extremely secretive. I suppose his whole life will have been one of keeping things close to his chest.[/p][/quote]Ok. Right straighten this 1 out for me, we have an issue with selling the corporate boxes. Now it appears to me that rather than put energy/resources into that big problem, we penny pinch and relieve volenteers from sales of programs. How much have we saved?[/p][/quote]Judging by last Sunday it is obvious that Club has decided to do the Programme selling from in house sources, rather than asking for volunteers, can't see anything odd about that, but I didn't like the way that it was carried out, but apart from some hearsay on chat sites I don't have any evidence that there was anything untoward going on. I have already expressed my opinion about the Corporate Box situation, it seems that they are being refurbrished and looking for new takers at a time where money is tight, there are not many taking up the offer. Again it is supposition from reading between the lines, I have no credible evidence just opinions from what I have gleaned from various web sites. Unless you have definite evidence posting rumours can only be damaging so think before you post. OSPREYSAINT

9:41pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
The problem here was lack of any tangible information, I have tried hard to find evidence of a Court case and have come up with nothing, I cannot believe it is still ongoing so I would imagine an out of court settlement was done. The Daily Mail is the only paper to publish anything concrete, but even that was based on hearsay by all accounts. It is nearly two years ago when it all blew up. Nothing good can come of pursuing it, just historic and no way relevant to what has happened since or will happen in the future. It is not much of a stick to beat anyone with don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]The problem here was lack of any tangible information, I have tried hard to find evidence of a Court case and have come up with nothing, I cannot believe it is still ongoing so I would imagine an out of court settlement was done. The Daily Mail is the only paper to publish anything concrete, but even that was based on hearsay by all accounts. It is nearly two years ago when it all blew up. Nothing good can come of pursuing it, just historic and no way relevant to what has happened since or will happen in the future. It is not much of a stick to beat anyone with don't you think? OSPREYSAINT

9:45pm Sun 14 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Did you know Franny got an award for his Curry recipe, hot stuff that guy.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Did you know Franny got an award for his Curry recipe, hot stuff that guy. OSPREYSAINT

12:55am Mon 15 Oct 12

st1halo says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola

STID
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola STID st1halo

1:13am Mon 15 Oct 12

st1halo says...

I think you're worrying too much about matters that shouldn't concern you ghk.
The only thing that matters is what happens on the blades of grass at St.Marys. Get that right and in a financially sound manner and everything else will fall into place. This business will live or die on what goes on there. We pay to watch good football, if we were playing Real Madrid next week and Barcelona the week after I doubt if you would worry about who sold you your programme, and a true saints fan wouldn't care if their function room or box doubled up as the toilets if we played like Brazil. NC wll do things his way, not how we might do things maybe but we have to trust him. Getting things right on the pitch is ALL we should care about, the incidentals will take care of themselves

STID
I think you're worrying too much about matters that shouldn't concern you ghk. The only thing that matters is what happens on the blades of grass at St.Marys. Get that right and in a financially sound manner and everything else will fall into place. This business will live or die on what goes on there. We pay to watch good football, if we were playing Real Madrid next week and Barcelona the week after I doubt if you would worry about who sold you your programme, and a true saints fan wouldn't care if their function room or box doubled up as the toilets if we played like Brazil. NC wll do things his way, not how we might do things maybe but we have to trust him. Getting things right on the pitch is ALL we should care about, the incidentals will take care of themselves STID st1halo

8:22am Mon 15 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place.
Source...... Glenn cockerill
Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding.

What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?
Not at all.
I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too
Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola

STID
Amen!
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just returned from my local indian where rumour has it that schwi rented property from benali in early days at saints. They fell out because schwi left it in a mess and flooded the place. Source...... Glenn cockerill[/p][/quote]Old news. Franny sued the club (who had rented his house in Chilworth) which is why he was banned. I've spoken to him about it but he didn't mention flooding. What is it you want? Do you want NC to leave?[/p][/quote]Not at all. I think the problem stems with some on here that see him as the messiah, then get touchy when certain issues are questioned, a few i have stated in previous posts. Only a fool would have complaint in how far we have come. I'm after transparency pure and simple, I would love an open interview with the echo to include where we've been and where we're going. Football is a business but it is a lot more too[/p][/quote]Lord, we thankyou for Cortese and the bountiful football he has brought. May you smite down those that take his name in vain, may you cast a plague upon those that would have him leave us and please lord, give us 3 points against the demon son allerdyce on saturday. God bless Nicola STID[/p][/quote]Amen! OSPREYSAINT

11:50pm Mon 15 Oct 12

Snebs says...

I still think there will be changes if we don't get a result on Saturday at West Ham. The Senior management team at SFC will not allow us to lose our place in the EPL. If we lose I believe NA will be relieved of his duties and replaced by an experienced Manager to steady the ship. Either that or we will see a Director of football put in over NA to add experience. It's is a pure guess but I would suggest Raffa Benitez may well be working at St Marys soon. COYS!!!!!
I still think there will be changes if we don't get a result on Saturday at West Ham. The Senior management team at SFC will not allow us to lose our place in the EPL. If we lose I believe NA will be relieved of his duties and replaced by an experienced Manager to steady the ship. Either that or we will see a Director of football put in over NA to add experience. It's is a pure guess but I would suggest Raffa Benitez may well be working at St Marys soon. COYS!!!!! Snebs

7:26am Tue 16 Oct 12

PTID1898 says...

Come on West Ham!!!!!
Come on West Ham!!!!! PTID1898

1:13pm Wed 17 Oct 12

lowe esteem says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.
Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha
Good, cos most of your stupid abbreviations fall on deaf ears, and 'on the hole' the rest of your contribution shows you up as a repeatedly bitter and ignorant contributor.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The use of the schwi is not funny so yes I will take issue you with that, I won't bother to correct the spelling, as that may be just another attempt to wind me up, otherwise I suggest you use a spell checker so that you don't keep coming across as an illiterate chump.[/p][/quote]Aslong as I don't come across as a fence dwelling **** kissing bore, I can handle anything else! Bha[/p][/quote]Good, cos most of your stupid abbreviations fall on deaf ears, and 'on the hole' the rest of your contribution shows you up as a repeatedly bitter and ignorant contributor. lowe esteem

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