At the second time of asking a fitting tribute to Ted Bates was today unveiled at St Mary's.
A year after the first attempt was taken down amid outrage that the £112,000 statue looked nothing like the Saints legend who spent 66 years at the club as a player, coach, manager and director, today saw a lasting tribute to memory officially unveiled.
Saints chairman Leon Crouch dipped into his own pocket to fund the new statue, sculpted by Sean Hedges-Quinn.
The great and good of Saints were at the unveiling including current manager Nigel Pearson and another legendary Saints manager Lawrie McMenemy.
Also there were two of Bates' former teammates, 82-year-old Bryn Elliott and 78-year-old John Christie.
They were accompanied by ten players who had played under Bates - Harry Penk, Bob McCarthy, Stuart Williams, Paul Bennett, Jim Steele, Hughie Fisher, Brian O'Neill, Norman Dean, Denis Hollywood, Pat Parker, Cliff Huxford and Mick Channon.
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Ted Bates' widow Mary was present together with the couple's daughter Jackie Jarvis as the statue was unveiled to commemorate the great man's remarkable 65 years' service to Saints.
A large crowd of fans and dignitaries gathered outside St Mary's to watch the unveiling.
Ted's grandchildren, Steve and Sam Jarvis, pulled the string on the sheet covering the statue to reveal it.
A cheer and a round of applause went round the crowd as the impressive bronze statue of Mr Southampton was finally unveiled.
Chairman Leon Crouch said: "It has been a privilege for me to be involved in honouring this great man.
"I hope this statue will remind us all of the dedication and values of Ted."
Ted Bates grandson Steve, 19, said: ''He considered himself a privileged man to be a part of Southampton Football Club. Thank you for this great tribute.''
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 12:55pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Brilliant! How the sculptor has managed to capture the movement of the body is amazing, It really looks like a snapshot of a very happy and proud man walking with a spring in his step! Very clever indeed.
Brilliant! How the sculptor has managed to capture the movement of the body is amazing, It really looks like a snapshot of a very happy and proud man walking with a spring in his step! Very clever indeed.
Posted by: Vader, Itchen Stand on 12:56pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Phew! A great likeness and a fitting tribute to a true legend of SFC
Let up hope the team and the fans can now do his memory proud today. Its all about bringing in the 3 points we so badly need to save all the energy and effort spent by Ted in his prime potentially being wasted by the current lack of unity and pride at our great club.
SFC forever COYR!!
Phew! A great likeness and a fitting tribute to a true legend of SFC
Let up hope the team and the fans can now do his memory proud today. Its all about bringing in the 3 points we so badly need to save all the energy and effort spent by Ted in his prime potentially being wasted by the current lack of unity and pride at our great club.
Excellent job by the sculpture. A fitting tribute to Ted. Well done to all involved. Just a shame this statue won't get the coverage in the media the first one did, but oh well, the main thing its for Saints fans first and foremost, as well as Ted's family of course.
Excellent job by the sculpture. A fitting tribute to Ted. Well done to all involved. Just a shame this statue won't get the coverage in the media the first one did, but oh well, the main thing its for Saints fans first and foremost, as well as Ted's family of course.
Posted by: happy, Southampton on 1:42pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Thank God for that!! The new statue is brilliant, especially when you have a look at the original statue below!! It really did look more like Milan Mandaric! There really is no comparison.
The new statue is almost a photographic likeness of the late great Mr Bates. The walking wave pose is great, and I agree with the previous post - there is a certain "everything will be fine" look about it.
I now feel even more sorry for Ian Brennan, the original sculptor. It just shows how poor the original was. I'm not imagining for a minute that it can be easy to do, but after seeing this new sculpture and comparing the two, it won't do him any favours for getting new work!!
Oh well - at least we now have a fitting tribute.
Come on you reds - a good win against Coventry will have us on our way.
Thank God for that!! The new statue is brilliant, especially when you have a look at the original statue below!! It really did look more like Milan Mandaric! There really is no comparison.
The new statue is almost a photographic likeness of the late great Mr Bates. The walking wave pose is great, and I agree with the previous post - there is a certain "everything will be fine" look about it.
I now feel even more sorry for Ian Brennan, the original sculptor. It just shows how poor the original was. I'm not imagining for a minute that it can be easy to do, but after seeing this new sculpture and comparing the two, it won't do him any favours for getting new work!!
Oh well - at least we now have a fitting tribute.
Come on you reds - a good win against Coventry will have us on our way.
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 2:38pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Looking at the first statue its just dawned on me where Lynx Deodourants got the inspiration for the smiley chocolate man in their tv adverts...i'm surprised that nobody drove past the first Ted statue and pulled its arm off!!!!
Looking at the first statue its just dawned on me where Lynx Deodourants got the inspiration for the smiley chocolate man in their tv adverts...i'm surprised that nobody drove past the first Ted statue and pulled its arm off!!!!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 3:28pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Excellent! A fitting tribute to a first class gentleman and sportsman!
I hope to see it for myself later in the year.
Thank you Leon Crouch! At last you have got something right!
Excellent! A fitting tribute to a first class gentleman and sportsman!
I hope to see it for myself later in the year.
Thank you Leon Crouch! At last you have got something right!
Posted by: Mint, southampton on 3:50pm Sat 22 Mar 08
unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Posted by: Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer, Ripping old people off on 6:08pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Mint[/bold] wrote:
unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him[/quote] Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is.
There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
Mint wrote:
unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is.
There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 6:22pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mint[/bold] wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him[/quote] Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.[/quote] If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head!
Then, it would be a case of where to erect it!
Sunderland perhaps!
Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer wrote:
Mint wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head!
Then, it would be a case of where to erect it!
Sunderland perhaps!
Posted by: nathan jones, Pontypool South Wales on 6:35pm Sat 22 Mar 08
It looks very good from the pictures on the saints web site, can't wait to go down and see
it for real. well done Leon Crouch for organising this to be made for a great servant to the club.
It looks very good from the pictures on the saints web site, can't wait to go down and see
it for real. well done Leon Crouch for organising this to be made for a great servant to the club.
Posted by: Aircraft Frank, SOUTHAMPTON on 6:47pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Mint[/bold] wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him[/quote] Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.[/quote] If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps![/quote] I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp.
Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS.
Not long now spam.
sailor sam wrote:
Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer wrote:
Mint wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps!
I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp.
Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS.
Not long now spam.
Posted by: JANE ERRIDGE, lordshill southampton on 6:48pm Sat 22 Mar 08
THE STATUE OF TED BATES LOOKS GREAT ! I WAS AT ST. MARYS TODAY AND WENT TO VIEW THE STATUE BEFORE THE MATCH. WELL DONE TO THE MEN WHO MADE IT .
ALSO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THE PLAYERS OF OLD ON THE PITCH AT HALF TIME , ESPECIALY MIKE CHANNON. ALTHOUGH IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THAT THE TELEVISION CREW COULD NOT FILM IT AND PUT IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. I SIT IN KINGSLAND STAND AND ONLY SAW THE BACK OF THESE MEN.
THE STATUE OF TED BATES LOOKS GREAT ! I WAS AT ST. MARYS TODAY AND WENT TO VIEW THE STATUE BEFORE THE MATCH. WELL DONE TO THE MEN WHO MADE IT .
ALSO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THE PLAYERS OF OLD ON THE PITCH AT HALF TIME , ESPECIALY MIKE CHANNON. ALTHOUGH IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THAT THE TELEVISION CREW COULD NOT FILM IT AND PUT IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. I SIT IN KINGSLAND STAND AND ONLY SAW THE BACK OF THESE MEN.
Posted by: JANE ERRIDGE, Lordshill Southampton on 6:51pm Sat 22 Mar 08
THE STATUE OF TED BATES LOOKS GREAT ! I WAS AT ST. MARYS TODAY AND WENT TO VIEW THE STATUE BEFORE THE MATCH. WELL DONE TO THE MEN WHO MADE IT .
ALSO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THE PLAYERS OF OLD ON THE PITCH AT HALF TIME , ESPECIALY MIKE CHANNON. ALTHOUGH IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THAT THE TELEVISION CREW COULD NOT FILM IT AND PUT IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. I SIT IN KINGSLAND STAND AND ONLY SAW THE BACK OF THESE MEN.
THE STATUE OF TED BATES LOOKS GREAT ! I WAS AT ST. MARYS TODAY AND WENT TO VIEW THE STATUE BEFORE THE MATCH. WELL DONE TO THE MEN WHO MADE IT .
ALSO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THE PLAYERS OF OLD ON THE PITCH AT HALF TIME , ESPECIALY MIKE CHANNON. ALTHOUGH IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THAT THE TELEVISION CREW COULD NOT FILM IT AND PUT IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. I SIT IN KINGSLAND STAND AND ONLY SAW THE BACK OF THESE MEN.
Well worth the wait. This statue is a fitting tribute to Ted Bates and Southampton Football Club. Well done to all involved.
Let's just hope the current shambles at St Mary's can rise from the ashes and make us proud again too.
I live in eternal hope!
Well worth the wait. This statue is a fitting tribute to Ted Bates and Southampton Football Club. Well done to all involved.
Let's just hope the current shambles at St Mary's can rise from the ashes and make us proud again too.
I live in eternal hope!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:24pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Aircraft Frank[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Mint[/bold] wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him[/quote] Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.[/quote] If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps![/quote] I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp. Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS. Not long now spam.[/quote] Well, if it's not old Aircraft Frank again!
On his 10th Kamikaze mission!
He can't even do that efficiently!
Par for the course for someone from his neck of the woods!
Have a Smashing time Frank!
But sorry, No statue!
Aircraft Frank wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer wrote:
Mint wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original 'Ted Bates' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps!
I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp. Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS. Not long now spam.
Well, if it's not old Aircraft Frank again!
On his 10th Kamikaze mission!
He can't even do that efficiently!
Par for the course for someone from his neck of the woods!
Have a Smashing time Frank!
But sorry, No statue!
Posted by: pugwash, southampton on 7:33pm Sat 22 Mar 08
A TREMENDOUS TRIBUTE TO TED,MAGNIFICENT.A TRUE GENTLEMAN AND I WAS LUCKY TO HAVE SEEN HIS TEAMS PLAY SO OFTEN.FOREVER SADLY MISSED.I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER HIM SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANYONE IN ALL THOSE YEARS,WHAT WE'D GIVE TO HAVE HIM AROUND NOW!
A TREMENDOUS TRIBUTE TO TED,MAGNIFICENT.A TRUE GENTLEMAN AND I WAS LUCKY TO HAVE SEEN HIS TEAMS PLAY SO OFTEN.FOREVER SADLY MISSED.I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER HIM SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANYONE IN ALL THOSE YEARS,WHAT WE'D GIVE TO HAVE HIM AROUND NOW!
Posted by: Truesaint, southampton on 7:42pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Aircraft Frank[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Mint[/bold] wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him[/quote] Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.[/quote] If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original \'Ted Bates\' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps![/quote] I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp. Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS. Not long now spam.[/quote] Well, if it\'s not old Aircraft Frank again!
On his 10th Kamikaze mission!
He can\'t even do that efficiently!
Par for the course for someone from his neck of the woods!
Have a Smashing time Frank!
But sorry, No statue![/quote] sam,why cant you just show a lil respect for a dead man...its the least he deserves...i dont think even YOU are that bad are you?
sailor sam wrote:
Aircraft Frank wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Rupert Lowe, the pig farmer wrote:
Mint wrote: unveiling attended by the great and the good of southampton ! Lawrie Mac i expected he charged an appearance fee and i am sure how he will tell eveyone this statue is down to him - get rid of him
Shut up you div, l doubt you even know who Ted Bates is. There should be a statue of Lawrie Mac erected as well.
If there was a statue of BIG MAC, you would have to melt down the original \'Ted Bates\' statue to use for his head! Then, it would be a case of where to erect it! Sunderland perhaps!
I am suprised there is no plans to erect a statue of old wax-0face rednapp. Thet would have to put a spring on his wobbly head, not forgetting the HANDCUFFS. Not long now spam.
Well, if it\'s not old Aircraft Frank again!
On his 10th Kamikaze mission!
He can\'t even do that efficiently!
Par for the course for someone from his neck of the woods!
Have a Smashing time Frank!
But sorry, No statue!
sam,why cant you just show a lil respect for a dead man...its the least he deserves...i dont think even YOU are that bad are you?
Posted by: Dave Hunter, New Zealand on 8:05pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Why dont they contact Jimmy Crankie and ask him if he wants to buy the old statue at a knock down price? Might ease saints current financial position by a few hundred Quid. Much as I love the club, and Ted Bates was a great man, There are far more urgent issues at hand. Hopefully Saints can now put the slide that has been hapening since the 3-0 and 4-0 wins over Tottenham behind them and start going forward and indeed uphill again.
Why dont they contact Jimmy Crankie and ask him if he wants to buy the old statue at a knock down price? Might ease saints current financial position by a few hundred Quid. Much as I love the club, and Ted Bates was a great man, There are far more urgent issues at hand. Hopefully Saints can now put the slide that has been hapening since the 3-0 and 4-0 wins over Tottenham behind them and start going forward and indeed uphill again.
Very impressive and much better than the appalling initial effort.
I would however like to see a Matthew Le Tisser statue. For me, he is a hero and we should honour this guy in any way we can. We will not see the likes of him again and shouldn't have to wait till he is gone to recognise this.
Very impressive and much better than the appalling initial effort.
I would however like to see a Matthew Le Tisser statue. For me, he is a hero and we should honour this guy in any way we can. We will not see the likes of him again and shouldn't have to wait till he is gone to recognise this.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:52am Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
Very impressive and much better than the appalling initial effort. I would however like to see a Matthew Le Tisser statue. For me, he is a hero and we should honour this guy in any way we can. We will not see the likes of him again and shouldn't have to wait till he is gone to recognise this. [/quote] Think on it Ed!
LeTissier may have been an excellent footballer, but what has he done, since he hung up his boots, to assist the club? Has he got a coaching badge, and been involved in coaching? Has he been around, while the club has been in financial difficulties, to help encourage investment? If he has been involved in either way, it has certainly not been reported in any paper that I have read!
Nice bloke, good footballer, but just another former employee!
Ed wrote:
Very impressive and much better than the appalling initial effort. I would however like to see a Matthew Le Tisser statue. For me, he is a hero and we should honour this guy in any way we can. We will not see the likes of him again and shouldn't have to wait till he is gone to recognise this.
Think on it Ed!
LeTissier may have been an excellent footballer, but what has he done, since he hung up his boots, to assist the club? Has he got a coaching badge, and been involved in coaching? Has he been around, while the club has been in financial difficulties, to help encourage investment? If he has been involved in either way, it has certainly not been reported in any paper that I have read!
Nice bloke, good footballer, but just another former employee!
I think Matt has done more than enough for the club already Sam. He has chosen, quite rightly in my opinion, to persue a media career as this fits well with his flamboyant nature.
I wouldn't be a fan of him becoming a coach. Firstly, Matt had a talent beyond that of most individuals. You can't teach kids how to score goals like he did and you can't teach kids how to remain loyal to one club for your ENTIRE career.
Oh and I really dislike the term employee when we talk about footballers. The bond between players and fans is more akin to a relationship would you not think (some good some bad of course)?
My point is Saints must start celebrating our past more and we must make our nice (but rather generic) stadium more individual.
I think Matt has done more than enough for the club already Sam. He has chosen, quite rightly in my opinion, to persue a media career as this fits well with his flamboyant nature.
I wouldn't be a fan of him becoming a coach. Firstly, Matt had a talent beyond that of most individuals. You can't teach kids how to score goals like he did and you can't teach kids how to remain loyal to one club for your ENTIRE career.
Oh and I really dislike the term employee when we talk about footballers. The bond between players and fans is more akin to a relationship would you not think (some good some bad of course)?
My point is Saints must start celebrating our past more and we must make our nice (but rather generic) stadium more individual.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:08am Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
I think Matt has done more than enough for the club already Sam. He has chosen, quite rightly in my opinion, to persue a media career as this fits well with his flamboyant nature. I wouldn't be a fan of him becoming a coach. Firstly, Matt had a talent beyond that of most individuals. You can't teach kids how to score goals like he did and you can't teach kids how to remain loyal to one club for your ENTIRE career. Oh and I really dislike the term employee when we talk about footballers. The bond between players and fans is more akin to a relationship would you not think (some good some bad of course)? My point is Saints must start celebrating our past more and we must make our nice (but rather generic) stadium more individual.[/quote] I think that you are letting sentiment cloud your thoughts! LeTissier was an excellent player, but so was Mick Channon! What about Terrt Paine! Alf Ramsey started at SFC and went on to lead England to the World Cup!
To warrant a statue, I would think that a person should do something exceptional, which is why Ted Bates has his statue.
Matt was 'a big fish in a small pond' if you will excuse the expression! He was content to stay at SFC rather than push himself to achieve even one International Cap.
He had talent, admitted, which he could not teach, but youngsters would try their hardest to emulate! If you see someone perform a fancy trick during a match on TV, then go and watch kids playing a few days later, and they will be trying the trick themselves.
Matt had the skills and tricks, that he could not Teach, but they would try and Copy!
Loyalty! Was it Loyalty, or the convenience of being next door to an airport with a regular service to the Channel Islands? Once he hung up his boots he has not helped at the club has he?
So you don't like the term 'employee'! So, when a player is transferred you are evicting someone that you feel you have a relationship with? Where is that 'relationship' with Theo now? I have read the columns on here to know the 'relationship' customers have with BWP and Dyer, and the reception given to the Best yesterday! Happy Families! Thou speakest in Jest!
Celebrating your past, is nice, but at the expense of facing the present?
Your club, whether or not you are relegated, is in a state of disunity from Board room downwards! There were more people turned up for the unveiling yesterday - celebrating the past - than turned up at the meeting, held to sort out today and the future!
To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!
That is the sort of problem that has to be addressed, not whether you need another statue!
Ed wrote:
I think Matt has done more than enough for the club already Sam. He has chosen, quite rightly in my opinion, to persue a media career as this fits well with his flamboyant nature. I wouldn't be a fan of him becoming a coach. Firstly, Matt had a talent beyond that of most individuals. You can't teach kids how to score goals like he did and you can't teach kids how to remain loyal to one club for your ENTIRE career. Oh and I really dislike the term employee when we talk about footballers. The bond between players and fans is more akin to a relationship would you not think (some good some bad of course)? My point is Saints must start celebrating our past more and we must make our nice (but rather generic) stadium more individual.
I think that you are letting sentiment cloud your thoughts! LeTissier was an excellent player, but so was Mick Channon! What about Terrt Paine! Alf Ramsey started at SFC and went on to lead England to the World Cup!
To warrant a statue, I would think that a person should do something exceptional, which is why Ted Bates has his statue.
Matt was 'a big fish in a small pond' if you will excuse the expression! He was content to stay at SFC rather than push himself to achieve even one International Cap.
He had talent, admitted, which he could not teach, but youngsters would try their hardest to emulate! If you see someone perform a fancy trick during a match on TV, then go and watch kids playing a few days later, and they will be trying the trick themselves.
Matt had the skills and tricks, that he could not Teach, but they would try and Copy!
Loyalty! Was it Loyalty, or the convenience of being next door to an airport with a regular service to the Channel Islands? Once he hung up his boots he has not helped at the club has he?
So you don't like the term 'employee'! So, when a player is transferred you are evicting someone that you feel you have a relationship with? Where is that 'relationship' with Theo now? I have read the columns on here to know the 'relationship' customers have with BWP and Dyer, and the reception given to the Best yesterday! Happy Families! Thou speakest in Jest!
Celebrating your past, is nice, but at the expense of facing the present?
Your club, whether or not you are relegated, is in a state of disunity from Board room downwards! There were more people turned up for the unveiling yesterday - celebrating the past - than turned up at the meeting, held to sort out today and the future!
To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!
That is the sort of problem that has to be addressed, not whether you need another statue!
Sorry, haven't got time to read all that but I get the drift.
I feel strongly that MLT should be used as a positive role model. His talent, loyalty and sense of humour made supporting Saints a pleasure for many years. I would happily donate a tenner for a statue of him.
Sorry, haven't got time to read all that but I get the drift.
I feel strongly that MLT should be used as a positive role model. His talent, loyalty and sense of humour made supporting Saints a pleasure for many years. I would happily donate a tenner for a statue of him.
Quite simply a Brilliant Likeness and a fitting tribute to the [bold]One & Only Mr Southampton FC Ted Bates.[/bold]
Well done to the 2 Sculptors and a huge thankyou to Leon Crouch and the club at least we have something to be proud of just now!
Quite simply a Brilliant Likeness and a fitting tribute to the One & Only Mr Southampton FC Ted Bates.
Well done to the 2 Sculptors and a huge thankyou to Leon Crouch and the club at least we have something to be proud of just now!
Posted by: TrueFan 71, Warsash on 11:18am Sun 23 Mar 08
Sailor Sam wrote
"To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!"
Some unity. Lawrie McMenemy could not resist the occassion to rant again about the Rupert Lowe and Wilde alliance, even ensuring it appeared in today's Mail on Sunday. He abandoned the club during Rupert's tenure and since his return has done nothing for it except promote his own interests. A suitable momento would be a sponge.
Sailor Sam wrote
"To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!"
Some unity. Lawrie McMenemy could not resist the occassion to rant again about the Rupert Lowe and Wilde alliance, even ensuring it appeared in today's Mail on Sunday. He abandoned the club during Rupert's tenure and since his return has done nothing for it except promote his own interests. A suitable momento would be a sponge.
Posted by: St Mark, Northampton on 12:13pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TrueFan 71[/bold] wrote:
Sailor Sam wrote
"To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!"
Some unity. Lawrie McMenemy could not resist the occassion to rant again about the Rupert Lowe and Wilde alliance, even ensuring it appeared in today's Mail on Sunday. He abandoned the club during Rupert's tenure and since his return has done nothing for it except promote his own interests. A suitable momento would be a sponge.
[/quote] In business terms, what does Lawrie Mac actually contribute to this club?
I know all the normal historic stuff but what is he actually doing now?
TrueFan 71 wrote:
Sailor Sam wrote
"To my mind, that adds to the club's problems rather than helps.
A few days ago your chairman was calling for unity, and yesterday was slagging off Lowe and Wilde!"
Some unity. Lawrie McMenemy could not resist the occassion to rant again about the Rupert Lowe and Wilde alliance, even ensuring it appeared in today's Mail on Sunday. He abandoned the club during Rupert's tenure and since his return has done nothing for it except promote his own interests. A suitable momento would be a sponge.
In business terms, what does Lawrie Mac actually contribute to this club?
I know all the normal historic stuff but what is he actually doing now?
Posted by: joe, southampton on 1:32pm Sun 23 Mar 08
lawrie mcmenemy is a great man for the club, he has connections. we only got andrew davies because he delayed the deal at middlesborough because we had no money. and where would we be without davies recently?
lawrie mcmenemy is a great man for the club, he has connections. we only got andrew davies because he delayed the deal at middlesborough because we had no money. and where would we be without davies recently?
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 5:01pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]joe[/bold] wrote:
lawrie mcmenemy is a great man for the club, he has connections. we only got andrew davies because he delayed the deal at middlesborough because we had no money. and where would we be without davies recently?[/quote] So you want to know where you wold be without Davies Joe! Still in danger of being relegated!
McMenemy talks a good deal, but he jumped ship pretty quick a few seasons back, and what evidence is there that Davies was his brain-child?
If 'Big Mac' is there to give advice to the board, perhaps it is following his advice that the club finds itself 'up the creek without a paddle'!
I have yet to meet anyone that has as high opinion of Lawrie McMenemy as he has of himself!
joe wrote:
lawrie mcmenemy is a great man for the club, he has connections. we only got andrew davies because he delayed the deal at middlesborough because we had no money. and where would we be without davies recently?
So you want to know where you wold be without Davies Joe! Still in danger of being relegated!
McMenemy talks a good deal, but he jumped ship pretty quick a few seasons back, and what evidence is there that Davies was his brain-child?
If 'Big Mac' is there to give advice to the board, perhaps it is following his advice that the club finds itself 'up the creek without a paddle'!
I have yet to meet anyone that has as high opinion of Lawrie McMenemy as he has of himself!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:27pm Sun 23 Mar 08
I have already made it clear that I have the highest regard for the late, great Ted Bates.
I am not responsible for what anyone else prints on here.
Jimmy Dickinson has been mentioned a couple of comments back. Ted may not have matched Jim's ability and acomplishments on the pitch, but as a sportsman and gentleman, who gave more to the game of football than he took from it, I reckon that they are on a par with each other.
The funny thing is, I had a chat with Ted, at The Dell, about ten years back, and he was asking me about various people he knew at Fratton Park. With people like Ted, they are above the Yah Boo stuff - they leave it to the likes of us that contribute to sites like this!!
I have already made it clear that I have the highest regard for the late, great Ted Bates.
I am not responsible for what anyone else prints on here.
Jimmy Dickinson has been mentioned a couple of comments back. Ted may not have matched Jim's ability and acomplishments on the pitch, but as a sportsman and gentleman, who gave more to the game of football than he took from it, I reckon that they are on a par with each other.
The funny thing is, I had a chat with Ted, at The Dell, about ten years back, and he was asking me about various people he knew at Fratton Park. With people like Ted, they are above the Yah Boo stuff - they leave it to the likes of us that contribute to sites like this!!
You have just proved the mentality of Portsmouth fans.
I am a die hard Saints fan and wish nothing but defeat for Pompey, but to disrespect the dead is a new form of low for Pompeys dark fans history.
You have just proved the mentality of Portsmouth fans.
I am a die hard Saints fan and wish nothing but defeat for Pompey, but to disrespect the dead is a new form of low for Pompeys dark fans history.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:55am Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote:
THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true!
To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought!
You are a complete Pratt!
Ric Flair wrote:
THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true!
To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought!
You are a complete Pratt!
Posted by: crew 657, soton on 10:58am Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Skatehater[/bold] wrote:
You have just proved the mentality of Portsmouth fans.
I am a die hard Saints fan and wish nothing but defeat for Pompey, but to disrespect the dead is a new form of low for Pompeys dark fans history.[/quote] you are a scummer hence low life. suggest you respect your betters and shut up. I bet youve only just got out of nappies you scum tw@t
Skatehater wrote:
You have just proved the mentality of Portsmouth fans.
I am a die hard Saints fan and wish nothing but defeat for Pompey, but to disrespect the dead is a new form of low for Pompeys dark fans history.
you are a scummer hence low life. suggest you respect your betters and shut up. I bet youve only just got out of nappies you scum tw@t
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon
or maybe you should stick to sailing
because i'll beat you too easily
Posted by: James, Hedge End on 9:49pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[bold]Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.[/bold]
Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 8:16am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon or maybe you should stick to sailing because i'll beat you too easily[/quote] The law was changed so that I would not be allowed to beat a child, so you would appear to be safe!
Anyway, although you talk tough, everyone knows that you only Smell Strong!
Ric Flair wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon or maybe you should stick to sailing because i'll beat you too easily
The law was changed so that I would not be allowed to beat a child, so you would appear to be safe!
Anyway, although you talk tough, everyone knows that you only Smell Strong!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 8:22am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.[/bold] [/quote] Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you!
Carry on believing, if it makes you happy!
Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return!
I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know!
James wrote: Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.
Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you!
Carry on believing, if it makes you happy!
Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return!
I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know!
Posted by: true saint, upside down inside out on 9:17am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote: [bold]Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.[/bold] [/quote] Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you! Carry on believing, if it makes you happy! Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return! I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know! [/quote] i would rather have big lawrie mac than fred dinage
sailor sam wrote:
James wrote: Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.
Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you! Carry on believing, if it makes you happy! Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return! I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know!
i would rather have big lawrie mac than fred dinage
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES[/quote] To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt![/quote] sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon or maybe you should stick to sailing because i'll beat you too easily[/quote] The law was changed so that I would not be allowed to beat a child, so you would appear to be safe! Anyway, although you talk tough, everyone knows that you only Smell Strong! [/quote] woooooooooooooooo
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Ric Flair wrote: THERES ONLY ONE TEAM IN HAMPSHIRE AND THATS SAINTS FC RESERVES
To an ignorant introvert, I suppose that would appear to be true! To those with wider horizons, it just confirms what we have always thought! You are a complete Pratt!
sailor sham, i challenge you to a wresling match, but you cant use ur handbag as a weapon or maybe you should stick to sailing because i'll beat you too easily
The law was changed so that I would not be allowed to beat a child, so you would appear to be safe! Anyway, although you talk tough, everyone knows that you only Smell Strong!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 4:31pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]true saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote: [bold]Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.[/bold] [/quote] Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you! Carry on believing, if it makes you happy! Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return! I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know! [/quote] i would rather have big lawrie mac than fred dinage[/quote] Whatever turns you on True Stain!
I don't care whether you would rather have Big Mac or Fred Dinenage!
Personally, I rather fancy Debbie Thrower!
true saint wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
James wrote: Sailor sam you massive bellend. You havent met anyone who thinks highly of lawrie mac? well 1 theres that joe guy, and 2 me. Lawrie mac is a great asset to the club. The club is only, what you like to call, 'up the creek without a paddle', because of rupert lowe. we are in this state because of him, no one else. And if you arent here to support lawrie and all the other directors to make sure lowe doesnt come back in, then you can seriously get bent. And do you want to know why Lawrie left a couple of years back? it is because he couldnt stand seein rupert lowe ruin the club that he loves. so remember that you next go and slag off lawrie mate, because to be honest, you know jack all.
Well James, if you and Joe believe that, then I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, father christmas, the easter bunny and all the other stories that you baby-sitter has been telling you! Carry on believing, if it makes you happy! Of course, you could always let me know what 'Big Mac' has done for the club since his return! I think that I would not be the only one that would be very interested to know!
i would rather have big lawrie mac than fred dinage
Whatever turns you on True Stain!
I don't care whether you would rather have Big Mac or Fred Dinenage!
Personally, I rather fancy Debbie Thrower!
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