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Cherries' youth set up as good as Saints'
Bournemouth's Lymiongton born Josh McQuoid
Bournemouth's Lymiongton born Josh McQuoid

SAINTS might have an academy with a great reputation, but Cherries boss Kevin Bond believes kids can just as good a footballing education on and off the field at League One strugglers Bournemouth.

The latest products of the club's fruitful youth set-up both made impressive debuts as Cherries recorded a memorable 2-1 win over League One highfliers Tranmere yesterday at Dean Court.

Lymington's Josh McQuoid, a midfielder, and Sussex-based defender Billy Franks both played their part in the victory before they were replaced by fellow youth teamers Matt Finlay from Ringwood and Joe Partington from Fareham.

Cherries boss Kevin Bond paid tribute to the work of youth coach Joe Roach and his department when he said: "Joe and his staff have played a major part in a number of players having their debuts since I've been here and that is a great credit to them.

"They do a fantastic job.

"With respect, all the good youngsters trundle off up the road to Southampton to what they perceive to be a bigger and better club.

"But the education, both on and off the field, they receive here is no better than they get there.

"They have helped develop players who might not have had a shout of getting apprenticeships at other clubs."

Cherries were given a dream start when Tranmere skipper Ian Goodison put through his own net after just 33 seconds before Jo Kuffour doubled their lead in the 34th minute.

Ex-Saints coach Bond, whose squad was ravaged by injury and unavailability, added: "In all my years in football, I don't think I've had many more wins that were more rewarding or, in some ways, more surprising.

"It was nothing short of an heroic performance by the lads.

Asked about McQuoid and Franks's debuts, Bond said: "They were excellent, probably better than they could have ever expected, I would imagine.

"They stood up to a difficult situation and both came out of the game with an awful lot of credit."

Victory saw Cherries reduce the gap between them and safety to 12 points.

However, asked if a miracle could be on the cards, Bond replied: "It's probably unlikely.

"Once we went into administration, we knew it was really an impossible task.

"But to the players' credit, I don't think anyone watching today would have thought we had been docked points and been adversely affected by what has gone on because the lads were tremendous."

4:35pm Tuesday 25th March 2008

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Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 4:42pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books!
I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1.
With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong.
Good Luck Kevin!
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 4:56pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Not difficult really
Posted by: Ted Stripes, Portsmouth on 4:58pm Tue 25 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:
Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM.
By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
Posted by: saint steve, southampton on 6:05pm Tue 25 Mar 08
where do pompeys young players end up?
Posted by: Silly question, obvious answer on 6:47pm Tue 25 Mar 08
In sailor sam's bed of course.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:40pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We'll wait and see on that one Ted!

My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder!

With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled!

Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team's competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!

Posted by: Ted Stripes, SO19 on 8:02pm Tue 25 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We'll wait and see on that one Ted! My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder! With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled! Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team's competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!
I am not going to argue with that you are spot on. Never the less I will re-new my season ticket as I couldn`t really care which league they are playing in, see when I first watched them they were lower than they are now. Even surviving the drop this year will leave the club in the brown stuff, without a buyer we will have to take a ten point deduction early next term. I am tipping Barnsley for the drop.
Posted by: Paul TS, Swanwick on 8:21pm Tue 25 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We'll wait and see on that one Ted! My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder! With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled! Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team's competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!
I have two young sons and I am a saints supporter (Had four saeason tickets that I gave up two years ago, as enjoyed seeing my kids play on a Sunday, more than what was being served up on the pitch and for how much it was costing me). I actually think that sailor Sams contributions to the echo Saints comments are quite valid and level. My youngest son was training with Saints academy, was offered to go to Bournemouth,Reading and Pompey, he chose Pompey. The problem we have at Southampton FC is complacency, no one has a God given right to be somewhere, you earn that. We have have agreed (Mum and dad) to put our kids through Pompeys academy, although have to say that Bournemouth was a strong candidate, this is over Saints (My club). There is a negativity that goes right through Saints FC at the moment, from the fans, stewards, players and right up to the management. Pompey has only just received academy status and their coaches are enthusiastic, great with the kids and at the end of the day my kid actually enjoys his football with Pompey, something he started to not do with Saints. It's called a feel good factor. Saimts have fantastic facilities coaches etc. I think there are new players of tomorrow at many clubs in the Uk and in all divisions. I hope that Bournemouth continues to do the good work it has been doing so far and that Saints pull off some performances that all the fans need and deserve. Says a lot when we see that two of our players are out on bail at the moment, considering our position was not so great when they went out partying in the first place! Prhaps it's the whole structure of UK football that's at fault (Ashley Cole/refs etc)
Posted by: legend, woolston on 8:32pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We\'ll wait and see on that one Ted! My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder! With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled! Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team\'s competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!
I am not going to argue with that you are spot on. Never the less I will re-new my season ticket as I couldn`t really care which league they are playing in, see when I first watched them they were lower than they are now. Even surviving the drop this year will leave the club in the brown stuff, without a buyer we will have to take a ten point deduction early next term. I am tipping Barnsley for the drop.
I agree, I would support Saints even if they were in the conference, it makes no difference to me whatsoever. I am a SUPPORTER not a customer. If I were merely a customer I would have stopped going long ago as it is terrible value for money!

A bit like watching Pompey at home eh Sam!?!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:07pm Tue 25 Mar 08
legend wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We\'ll wait and see on that one Ted! My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder! With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled! Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team\'s competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!
I am not going to argue with that you are spot on. Never the less I will re-new my season ticket as I couldn`t really care which league they are playing in, see when I first watched them they were lower than they are now. Even surviving the drop this year will leave the club in the brown stuff, without a buyer we will have to take a ten point deduction early next term. I am tipping Barnsley for the drop.
I agree, I would support Saints even if they were in the conference, it makes no difference to me whatsoever. I am a SUPPORTER not a customer. If I were merely a customer I would have stopped going long ago as it is terrible value for money! A bit like watching Pompey at home eh Sam!?!
So Legend, you were one of the 'Supporters' who attended the much publicised meeting with the board of directors? Living in Woolston, you would not have had far to travel, even though the Floating Bridge is now just a memory!
I can identify with what you say, because it was tough being a Pompey supporter when we went down to Division 4, but we survived!

An interesting piece by Paul TS of Swanwick!
He is confirming, something that I have been saying on these pages for months!
Trouble filters downwards, not upwards!
Trouble in the board room, rubs off on the management, who pass it on the the team and it goes on down the chain until it has a detrimental effect on the youth team!
Same in the Navy. A good, competent, fair Captain, influenced the officers and crew. It was not how an Able Seaman performed!

My ideal would be to see ALL the Hampshire clubs (Bournemouth is still an Honourary Hampshire Club) in the top flight but, other than Pompey, the only team 'on the up' at present is Aldershot, and good luck to them as well!
Posted by: crew 657, soton on 10:09pm Tue 25 Mar 08
its like the scum crew...some youngsters but nothing coming through to the top. pathetic scummers..nil talent, no fans
Posted by: legend, woolston on 10:35pm Tue 25 Mar 08
sailor sam wrote:
legend wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
Ted Stripes wrote:
sailor sam wrote: Kevin Bond has certainly got some good young players coming through but, like SFC, will be forced to sell to balance the books! I think that, on the small gates that Bournemouth attract, he is doing great, and if they had not gone into administration, would have survived in Div 1. With the team playing as a team, they may yet prove the pundits wrong. Good Luck Kevin!
You are beginning to make sense maybe you should change your handle to MERCHANTSAILOR SAM. By the way PFC will have to sell at the end of the season to fill the black hole in their accounts.
We\'ll wait and see on that one Ted! My bet is that, as with this season and last season, those sold will finance new signings to strengthen the team rather than pay a bonus to any share-holder! With SFC, the players sold have neither resulted in the team being strengthened nor the black hole in the clubs accounts being filled! Board room incompetence! Managerial incompetence! A lack of team\'s competence, and customers that pay good money to watch performances that bear no comparison to what they saw a few years back!
I am not going to argue with that you are spot on. Never the less I will re-new my season ticket as I couldn`t really care which league they are playing in, see when I first watched them they were lower than they are now. Even surviving the drop this year will leave the club in the brown stuff, without a buyer we will have to take a ten point deduction early next term. I am tipping Barnsley for the drop.
I agree, I would support Saints even if they were in the conference, it makes no difference to me whatsoever. I am a SUPPORTER not a customer. If I were merely a customer I would have stopped going long ago as it is terrible value for money! A bit like watching Pompey at home eh Sam!?!
So Legend, you were one of the 'Supporters' who attended the much publicised meeting with the board of directors? Living in Woolston, you would not have had far to travel, even though the Floating Bridge is now just a memory! I can identify with what you say, because it was tough being a Pompey supporter when we went down to Division 4, but we survived! An interesting piece by Paul TS of Swanwick! He is confirming, something that I have been saying on these pages for months! Trouble filters downwards, not upwards! Trouble in the board room, rubs off on the management, who pass it on the the team and it goes on down the chain until it has a detrimental effect on the youth team! Same in the Navy. A good, competent, fair Captain, influenced the officers and crew. It was not how an Able Seaman performed! My ideal would be to see ALL the Hampshire clubs (Bournemouth is still an Honourary Hampshire Club) in the top flight but, other than Pompey, the only team 'on the up' at present is Aldershot, and good luck to them as well!
No Sam, for my own reasons I did not go to that meeting, but I'm not going through all that again!! I'm too young to remember the floating bridge...

Good post by Paul TS, but it did make me sad that he feels his children are better off at the Pompey Academy. It shows Saints are in a sorry state of affairs at the moment. If our youth talent dries up then I fear more doom and gloom!!
Posted by: stripey on 7:23am Wed 26 Mar 08
Paul TS made some interesting points. My view about youth football at the local professional clubs is that they are all too full of their own importance and put too much pressure on youngsters way too soon. The academy coaches are all under pressure themselves with cash strapped clubs looking at ways of cutting costs. A lot of young players are over-coached. This manifests itself in different ways. Although he isn't at a local club anymore Theo Walcott is a prime example. Since he went to Arsenal his natural game (what made him stand out from others) has been lost to some degree. Wenger made a very revealing comment not long after Theo joined Arsenal. He said soemthing like "It's not all about speed." Which suggests to me (along with Walcott's loss of form) that the coaches were concentrating on perceived weaknesses in his game and perhaps getting him to change the way he played. If not handled correctly this can come across in a very negative way to a young player and lead to a massive loss in confidence. I agree with Paul TS, a young player has to find somewhere where he is happy. Happiness comes first, development second. Not every club will suit all players but the fact that a particular player doesn't get on at a club doesn't make either the club or the player bad. My lad has been coached privately by Matty Holmes for years and now he is a little older he is coached at the Terry Wateridge Soccer Academy where he is very happy. I wouldn't send him to one of the clubs because of the pressure. I think it can have a very negative effect on some young players. I watched one Pompey academy side a couple of years back. They lost and the coach lost the plot completely. Very unprofessional.
Posted by: Saints Fan, Southampton on 10:07am Wed 26 Mar 08
crew 657 wrote:
its like the scum crew...some youngsters but nothing coming through to the top. pathetic scummers..nil talent, no fans
Lol your incessant comments make me laugh everytime I see them, crew 657! A football discussion wouldn't be the same without them. Keep the good work up
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