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6:27am Tuesday 13th May 2008
FORMER Saints manager Graeme Souness has said there is no truth in rumours linking him with a bid for the club.
The Scot, who managed Saints for their 1996/97 "Great Escape" season, knocked back reports he was considering a deal for the club.
Souness, along with Everest double glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, mounted a failed £20m bid to buy Wolves last year.
However, he told the Daily Echo last night that there was no foundation to rumours he had turned his attention to Saints.
"I don't know where that has come from and it is not true," he said.
The 55-year-old did say he was thrilled Saints avoided relegation to League One, following their dramatic 3-2 final day win over Sheffield United.
Souness, who now lives in Manchester, added he still holds plenty of affection for both the city, the club and people involved with it.
"I am delighted, especially for someone like Lawrie McMenemy, who was an enormous help to me when I was manager there," he said.
"I'm very pleased for the supporters as well.
"Southampton has got everything in place to become a successful football club.
"They should be in the Premiership and I hope they get back there soon.
"I enjoyed my time there and it was a shame that it wasn't longer. I loved living down there and I do miss it."
With Souness ruling himself out, it seems Saints' best hope of investment still comes in the form of the consortium featuring Southampton barrister Jonathan Fulthorpe, John Cousins and former Saints boss Dave Merrington.
Reports have suggested the money is nearly in place for a bid.
Full story: See today's Daily Echo.
Saint Madcap, Windy Horndean says...
7:47am Tue 13 May 08
Portswood Pete, says...
7:48am Tue 13 May 08
george wrote:Because an Italian club (Torino?) offered him more money and he could then blame it on a bloke called Rupert, he didn't last long in Italy. Ali Dia anyone?
If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.
Rocker268, Hampshire says...
8:00am Tue 13 May 08
Captain Swing, southampton says...
8:05am Tue 13 May 08
Portswood Pete wrote:The bottom line on Souness was he wanted more cash for established players and Rupert wanted to invest more money in the Youth set-up. At least that's my perception of events. And it's worth adding that Souness, in his autobiography, ended up believing that Rupert was an asset to the club.
george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Because an Italian club (Torino?) offered him more money and he could then blame it on a bloke called Rupert, he didn't last long in Italy. Ali Dia anyone?
Hugh, Disillusion Bay says...
8:16am Tue 13 May 08
Brian, BEastleigh says...
8:22am Tue 13 May 08
george wrote:Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building.
If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.
Glenn, Southampton says...
8:23am Tue 13 May 08
george wrote:You couldnt really blame him mate.
If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.
Ric Flair, says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
Jesus_02, kingsland says...
8:31am Tue 13 May 08
Reality, says...
8:33am Tue 13 May 08
Exile, East Anglia says...
8:49am Tue 13 May 08
Portswood Pete, says...
8:56am Tue 13 May 08
Brian wrote:Wrong. Souness used the "lack of funds" as a smoke screen. He was never going to get £15M to strengthen the team, we simply didn't have that sort of money. He got a better offer from Italy and ran. You could argue that we should have offered him a bigger salary but I think history shows that he wasn't worth it.
george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
More Saintly than any Consortium, New Forest says...
9:02am Tue 13 May 08
whizzpop, Fareham/Eastleigh/Bi
tterne/Hedge End says...
9:25am Tue 13 May 08
True Blue, Fareham says...
9:34am Tue 13 May 08
Brian wrote:McMenemy also walked out on the club to 'return to his roots', but some still refer to him as the Legend!
george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
Andy P, Bitterne says...
10:36am Tue 13 May 08
george wrote:Because like others, it took him about five seconds to work out what a big tit Lowe was, and still is.
If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.
Aircraft Frank, Bitterne says...
10:42am Tue 13 May 08
True Blue wrote:HE IS A LEGEND,FACT!
Brian wrote:McMenemy also walked out on the club to 'return to his roots', but some still refer to him as the Legend!george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
Kevin, Maybush says...
10:56am Tue 13 May 08
Exile wrote:Exile, if you read the post made by Jesus-02 at 8.31, I think you could well find the answer as to why other clubs attract investment, but we don't.
The fundamental question which never seems to get addressed is why Saints are apparently so unattractive to potential investors. Taking the previous points there have clearly been enough "fans, lunatics or super rich" around to invest in scores of similar clubs eg Ipswich, QPR,Coventry and Preston to name a few. So why not us? This can't all be laid at the feet of RL who would likely be taken out of the picture by a successful bid...or the other self serving, self interested over remunerated on the board.
More Saintly than any Consortium, New Forest says...
11:07am Tue 13 May 08
Kevin wrote:Or perhaps you could re-assess the list of other clubs mentioned above....
Exile wrote: The fundamental question which never seems to get addressed is why Saints are apparently so unattractive to potential investors. Taking the previous points there have clearly been enough "fans, lunatics or super rich" around to invest in scores of similar clubs eg Ipswich, QPR,Coventry and Preston to name a few. So why not us? This can't all be laid at the feet of RL who would likely be taken out of the picture by a successful bid...or the other self serving, self interested over remunerated on the board.Exile, if you read the post made by Jesus-02 at 8.31, I think you could well find the answer as to why other clubs attract investment, but we don't. He said that Souness and Strachan enjoyed their time at Southampton because they thought Saints were a good local club, punching above their weight, with little or no investment. Fans may not like to admit it, but history tells us that, as far as investment goes, it is true, with the only investment coming from the sale of young talent! Punching above our weight! Of course! Until the investment comes in, in the form of millions, not thousands, it will always be a 'middleweight' club in the ring with the 'heavyweights'!
ab, says...
11:31am Tue 13 May 08
Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
11:40am Tue 13 May 08
ab wrote:I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.
ab, says...
11:43am Tue 13 May 08
Exile, E Anglia says...
12:00pm Tue 13 May 08
More Saintly than any Consortium wrote:Sorry, I am not really convinced by these helpful comments, for instance being a plc does require a great deal more public transparency in terms of bids but a lot less in the way of backroom deals.
Kevin wrote:Or perhaps you could re-assess the list of other clubs mentioned above.... How many of those are PLC\'s????? That is, and always will be our problem. Before any investment can be made into the playing side of things...guess who needs to be bought out first....the three amigos.... The PLC status of this club is hindering investment and was designed to protect those at the top, whoever they may be. Marcus Evans was supposedly interested in Saints before buying Ipswich as well... Why didn\'t he take us on??? Coventry did the deal with the devil that is SISU...see next season if any investment in the playing staff happens but don\'t hold your breath.Exile wrote: The fundamental question which never seems to get addressed is why Saints are apparently so unattractive to potential investors. Taking the previous points there have clearly been enough \"fans, lunatics or super rich\" around to invest in scores of similar clubs eg Ipswich, QPR,Coventry and Preston to name a few. So why not us? This can\'t all be laid at the feet of RL who would likely be taken out of the picture by a successful bid...or the other self serving, self interested over remunerated on the board.Exile, if you read the post made by Jesus-02 at 8.31, I think you could well find the answer as to why other clubs attract investment, but we don\'t. He said that Souness and Strachan enjoyed their time at Southampton because they thought Saints were a good local club, punching above their weight, with little or no investment. Fans may not like to admit it, but history tells us that, as far as investment goes, it is true, with the only investment coming from the sale of young talent! Punching above our weight! Of course! Until the investment comes in, in the form of millions, not thousands, it will always be a \'middleweight\' club in the ring with the \'heavyweights\'!
Rumour Mill, says...
12:02pm Tue 13 May 08
Osama Bin Laden wrote:I heard Roman Abramovich's richer, older brother has got the hump with Roman hogging the limelight and will empty his 1p / 2p jar to buy Saints outright. Once he owns it he will bring Jose in (who has already agreed and see's this as a great oportunity to get back at the meddling Abramovich) with Shearer as his number 2 and Redknapp as a car parking attendent. Rumours connecting Lampard with the continent are all just a smokescreen as he is coming to St Mary's, Ronaldinho is leaving Barca to come here - honest.
ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
True Blue, Fareham says...
12:13pm Tue 13 May 08
Aircraft Frank wrote:LEGEND! a popular story handed down from earlier times which may or may not be true!
True Blue wrote:HE IS A LEGEND,FACT!Brian wrote:McMenemy also walked out on the club to 'return to his roots', but some still refer to him as the Legend!george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
the Truth Master, in the Real World says...
12:16pm Tue 13 May 08
Osama Bin Laden wrote:Maybe he's going to be the Nutritional expert, they say carrots are good for you, especially the eyesight, and our frontline seemed to have trouble seeing the opponents net last season!!
ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
Ric Flair, says...
12:30pm Tue 13 May 08
the Truth Master wrote:We dont have a decent number 2, and we should bring one in,
Osama Bin Laden wrote:Maybe he's going to be the Nutritional expert, they say carrots are good for you, especially the eyesight, and our frontline seemed to have trouble seeing the opponents net last season!!ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
More Saintly than any Consortium, New Forest says...
12:31pm Tue 13 May 08
Exile wrote:Ah ok then.
More Saintly than any Consortium wrote:Sorry, I am not really convinced by these helpful comments, for instance being a plc does require a great deal more public transparency in terms of bids but a lot less in the way of backroom deals. Yes I accept that we have a lack of ability to generate our own investment at present...THAT's WHY WE NEED NEW INVESTMENT, so it is hardly likely to put off new potential investment (though selling an old town centre location and moving to a new better ie cheaper site has already been exploited) but we have a ground with potential for larger crowds and a support base very willing to pay up to follow a successful side. The Fulthorpe/Merrington interest hardly sounds well endowed with investment money for players. Nor do I think that the lack of investment line is really fair...OK we have sold too many young and good older players over the years, but the Board backed Burley with reasonable funds (tho' he didn't choose particularly well)at the time we were losing parachute payments and crowds were declining. Currently our cash flow must be bad (hence doing a deal on the remaining Walcott debt) and clearly our operating expenses are too high for our income - that's typical territory for takeovers, restructuring and selling on but it has to be simultaneous to on-field success to regain the heights of the Premiership to make the whole thing viable. In all cases there has to be investment risk in the interests of gaining big payback. I still don't see that we are so very different from the other clubs quoted!Kevin wrote:Or perhaps you could re-assess the list of other clubs mentioned above.... How many of those are PLC\'s????? That is, and always will be our problem. Before any investment can be made into the playing side of things...guess who needs to be bought out first....the three amigos.... The PLC status of this club is hindering investment and was designed to protect those at the top, whoever they may be. Marcus Evans was supposedly interested in Saints before buying Ipswich as well... Why didn\'t he take us on??? Coventry did the deal with the devil that is SISU...see next season if any investment in the playing staff happens but don\'t hold your breath.Exile wrote: The fundamental question which never seems to get addressed is why Saints are apparently so unattractive to potential investors. Taking the previous points there have clearly been enough \"fans, lunatics or super rich\" around to invest in scores of similar clubs eg Ipswich, QPR,Coventry and Preston to name a few. So why not us? This can\'t all be laid at the feet of RL who would likely be taken out of the picture by a successful bid...or the other self serving, self interested over remunerated on the board.Exile, if you read the post made by Jesus-02 at 8.31, I think you could well find the answer as to why other clubs attract investment, but we don\'t. He said that Souness and Strachan enjoyed their time at Southampton because they thought Saints were a good local club, punching above their weight, with little or no investment. Fans may not like to admit it, but history tells us that, as far as investment goes, it is true, with the only investment coming from the sale of young talent! Punching above our weight! Of course! Until the investment comes in, in the form of millions, not thousands, it will always be a \'middleweight\' club in the ring with the \'heavyweights\'!
Ric Flair, says...
12:36pm Tue 13 May 08
the Truth Master wrote:We dont have a decent number 2, and we should bring one in,
Osama Bin Laden wrote:Maybe he's going to be the Nutritional expert, they say carrots are good for you, especially the eyesight, and our frontline seemed to have trouble seeing the opponents net last season!!ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
crew 657, new forest says...
12:48pm Tue 13 May 08
the Truth Master wrote:bugs bunny? I think you'll find that stains and its fans are all muppets..every single one of them except the millbrook and sholing inbreds who can only be referred to as yellow bellies
Osama Bin Laden wrote:Maybe he's going to be the Nutritional expert, they say carrots are good for you, especially the eyesight, and our frontline seemed to have trouble seeing the opponents net last season!!
ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
the Truth Master, in the Real World says...
12:49pm Tue 13 May 08
True Blue wrote:True Blue, I suggest you get yourself a new dictionary, LEGEND also means a famous person!
Aircraft Frank wrote:LEGEND! a popular story handed down from earlier times which may or may not be true! The Pied Piper is a Legend! Biggles is a Legend! Why do you consider that McMenemy is a Legend?True Blue wrote:HE IS A LEGEND,FACT!Brian wrote:McMenemy also walked out on the club to 'return to his roots', but some still refer to him as the Legend!george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness "walked out" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
Condor Man, Southampton says...
12:59pm Tue 13 May 08
The_Shotster, Southampton says...
1:03pm Tue 13 May 08
crew657, new forest says...
1:43pm Tue 13 May 08
More Saintly than any Consortium wrote:Why dont you shut it scummer
Kevin wrote:Or perhaps you could re-assess the list of other clubs mentioned above.... How many of those are PLC\'s????? That is, and always will be our problem. Before any investment can be made into the playing side of things...guess who needs to be bought out first....the three amigos.... The PLC status of this club is hindering investment and was designed to protect those at the top, whoever they may be. Marcus Evans was supposedly interested in Saints before buying Ipswich as well... Why didn\'t he take us on??? Coventry did the deal with the devil that is SISU...see next season if any investment in the playing staff happens but don\'t hold your breath.Exile wrote: The fundamental question which never seems to get addressed is why Saints are apparently so unattractive to potential investors. Taking the previous points there have clearly been enough \"fans, lunatics or super rich\" around to invest in scores of similar clubs eg Ipswich, QPR,Coventry and Preston to name a few. So why not us? This can\'t all be laid at the feet of RL who would likely be taken out of the picture by a successful bid...or the other self serving, self interested over remunerated on the board.Exile, if you read the post made by Jesus-02 at 8.31, I think you could well find the answer as to why other clubs attract investment, but we don\'t. He said that Souness and Strachan enjoyed their time at Southampton because they thought Saints were a good local club, punching above their weight, with little or no investment. Fans may not like to admit it, but history tells us that, as far as investment goes, it is true, with the only investment coming from the sale of young talent! Punching above our weight! Of course! Until the investment comes in, in the form of millions, not thousands, it will always be a \'middleweight\' club in the ring with the \'heavyweights\'!
Ted Stripes, Skatesville says...
1:56pm Tue 13 May 08
Reality wrote:Unfortunately I think that we will not be taken over until we go into administration. Why pay £20M for something that you can get for a £1 later on.
If someone was going to buy Saints, they would have done it by now.
the Truth Master, in the Real World says...
1:57pm Tue 13 May 08
crew 657 wrote:I see you've emerged from your cellar after a night-in with the family then!
the Truth Master wrote:bugs bunny? I think you'll find that stains and its fans are all muppets..every single one of them except the millbrook and sholing inbreds who can only be referred to as yellow belliesOsama Bin Laden wrote:Maybe he's going to be the Nutritional expert, they say carrots are good for you, especially the eyesight, and our frontline seemed to have trouble seeing the opponents net last season!!ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
the Truth Master, in the Real World says...
2:10pm Tue 13 May 08
Rumour Mill wrote:I heard something similar, they all turned up at Staplewood the other day in their flash motors and also Ronaldo nearly came - in a Tranny!
Osama Bin Laden wrote:I heard Roman Abramovich's richer, older brother has got the hump with Roman hogging the limelight and will empty his 1p / 2p jar to buy Saints outright. Once he owns it he will bring Jose in (who has already agreed and see's this as a great oportunity to get back at the meddling Abramovich) with Shearer as his number 2 and Redknapp as a car parking attendent. Rumours connecting Lampard with the continent are all just a smokescreen as he is coming to St Mary's, Ronaldinho is leaving Barca to come here - honest. You heard it here first...ab wrote: Take this with a massive pinch of salt but allardyce was at the training ground early this week. Now he may just be there because he is Nigels mate, or he could be in line to be the next saints manager, with nige as his No 2.I also saw bugs bunny at the training ground
David, Poole says...
2:59pm Tue 13 May 08
STAN, works at southampton gas meters says...
3:23pm Tue 13 May 08
Ric Flair, says...
4:10pm Tue 13 May 08
True Blue, Fareham says...
7:49pm Tue 13 May 08
the Truth Master wrote:Nick, as with McMercenary, has his supporters and those that have no time for him. Jealous of his recognition maybe.
True Blue wrote:Ha Ha, very funny True Blue. Just a few points though. 1 - Re Nick, dont you mean infamous? 2 - Its not my definition, its the dictionaries! 3 - Do PFC have many Legends (famous people that is), I managed to come up with a certain Mr J Dickinson and that Bell-ringing bellend on the terraces but then got stuck trying to think of anyone else, oh yeah I nearly forgot Secret Agent Redknapp of course, well thats 3, got anymore? 4 - Your legend about SFC, are you really trying to tell me that each and every PFC fan (all 15,000 of them or even the measly 150 or so that went to Everton - poor, poor turn-out)are totally united behind the board, manager and team, if so, you obviously do not read the postings on THE NEWS website do you. I have visited it a few times over the season and there have been plenty of disagreements etc on there between the fans, and all this in your best season ever!!!!!!! Gawd knows what they will be like when PFC are in the same situation as us in the near future.the Truth Master wrote:Thanks for the very interesting information. So, with all the publicity that Nick Illingsworth has received over the last few years, which has made him quite famous in your area, by your definition he is also a Southampton Legend! He has certainly never \'jumped ship\', which must also be in his favour! Have Pompey any Legends? Of course! There is \'a popular story handed down from earlier times, which we now believe to be untrue\' that Southampton had a football team whose fans were united behind the board, the manager and the team! When you read the posts on THE ECHO site, you can see that it is obviously a figment of someone\'s imagination!True Blue wrote:with reference to my earlier posting regarding these comments - \"True Blue, I suggest you get yourself a new dictionary, LEGEND also means a famous person! It can also mean an event or an inscription. Do PFC have any Legends? or are they all \"a popular story handed down from earlier times which may or may not be true!\"Kabba wrote:I notice that in your most intelligent (for you) response, you could not come up with a reason why McDuff should be considered a Legend either! You and Fokker Frank make a damned good pair!True Blue wrote:ha ha jealous pr1ck, just because p*mpey dont have any legends and they never willAircraft Frank wrote:LEGEND! a popular story handed down from earlier times which may or may not be true! The Pied Piper is a Legend! Biggles is a Legend! Why do you consider that McMenemy is a Legend?True Blue wrote:HE IS A LEGEND,FACT!Brian wrote:McMenemy also walked out on the club to \'return to his roots\', but some still refer to him as the Legend!george wrote: If Mr. Souness was so enamoured of the club and the town, I wonder why he walked out on the club in the disgraceful way he did.Souness \"walked out\" on Saints because Rupert Lowe refused to give him funds for Team Building. Sound familiar ?
george, weston-super-mare says...
7:42am Tue 13 May 08