Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde will return to Saints imminently with the current board set to stand down today.#
Leon Crouch, Keith Wiseman and Patrick Trant are set to follow chief executive Lee Hoos and resign, shelving the need for Friday's EGM requisitioned by former chairmen Wilde and Lowe.
Once they have stepped down the wheels will be set in motion for Wilde and Lowe, who are backed by 46 per cent of the club's shareholding, to return to power at St Mary's as part of a four-man PLC board also containing Andrew Cowen and finance director David Jones, the only man to survive the cull.
Lowe and Wilde will withdraw their EGM requisition with their demands met meaning the meeting won't go ahead.
Crouch and his fellow board members have been hanging on in the hope that they could bring new investment to the table before their departure.
The EGM date they set was virtually the last possible moment it could be held and, despite facing certain defeat, they have hung on to try and bring in some much needed money.
The most likely group to provide that seemed to be the consortium featuring Jonathan Fulthorpe, John Cousins and Dave Merrington but the board have reluctantly had to accept that time has run out for them to come forward on their watch.
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The change at the top of the club was still likely to have taken place anyway with Lowe and Wilde left to finalise any deal but Crouch would have liked a successful end to negotiations to end his spell as chairman.
Posted by: The_Shotster, Southampton on 7:36am Wed 14 May 08
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Posted by: Fletch, England on 7:40am Wed 14 May 08
FFS! When we people get to grips with the fact that HODDLE WILL NOT BE COMING! He has said he will not be coming back an yet numptys still think he will.
Get a grip man FFS!
FFS! When we people get to grips with the fact that HODDLE WILL NOT BE COMING! He has said he will not be coming back an yet numptys still think he will.
The club should be moving forwards not backwards. More upheaval to put up with. Cant wait till we get shot of the bloody lot of the ego driven scum that are systematically (sic) ruining our football club.
The club should be moving forwards not backwards. More upheaval to put up with. Cant wait till we get shot of the bloody lot of the ego driven scum that are systematically (sic) ruining our football club.
Those who think that Lowe will get Hoddle in are deluding themselves; we simply cannot afford him. The rumour I heard is Peter Taylor - there's an accident waiting to happen.
Nigel Pearson is a hungry young manager who is well respecetd within the game. He bought discipline and organisation to a squad that desperately needed it. His loan signings (Pericard apart) were excellent. He deserves a chance at working with his own squad.
Of course it won't happen as Lowe will simply not accept anyone else's choice.
Those who think that Lowe will get Hoddle in are deluding themselves; we simply cannot afford him. The rumour I heard is Peter Taylor - there's an accident waiting to happen.
Nigel Pearson is a hungry young manager who is well respecetd within the game. He bought discipline and organisation to a squad that desperately needed it. His loan signings (Pericard apart) were excellent. He deserves a chance at working with his own squad.
Of course it won't happen as Lowe will simply not accept anyone else's choice.
Eastander.... Well said sir. Lowe and his cronies have always thought that us fans are a thick bunch. I'm sure his PR team are glad to be back, money for old rope. I for one will not be willing to forgive and forget. Lowes ego is the biggest thing he will bring to the table. SHOTSTER.. grow up, I cannot for the life of me understand why the Pro-Lowe "fans" still welcome him back and state how much good he did for us. Blinkered views. Yes lovely stadium etc etc, but bit too nice for championship or div 1. Dont forget he was selling the family silver with the sole aim of lining his and his cronies pockets. But then these "fans" have very selective memories. I will not welcome Lowe with open arms.As I am one of the LUNATIC FRINGE that had the audacity to question a city gents motives. Thanks Leon for all you have tried to do for us, if nothing else at least we KNOW he tried his hardest. Long live Leon, shame on you Lowe.
Eastander.... Well said sir. Lowe and his cronies have always thought that us fans are a thick bunch. I'm sure his PR team are glad to be back, money for old rope. I for one will not be willing to forgive and forget. Lowes ego is the biggest thing he will bring to the table. SHOTSTER.. grow up, I cannot for the life of me understand why the Pro-Lowe "fans" still welcome him back and state how much good he did for us. Blinkered views. Yes lovely stadium etc etc, but bit too nice for championship or div 1. Dont forget he was selling the family silver with the sole aim of lining his and his cronies pockets. But then these "fans" have very selective memories. I will not welcome Lowe with open arms.As I am one of the LUNATIC FRINGE that had the audacity to question a city gents motives. Thanks Leon for all you have tried to do for us, if nothing else at least we KNOW he tried his hardest. Long live Leon, shame on you Lowe.
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] Lowe's PR team up early this morning !
The_Shotster wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Posted by: Hugh, Disillusion Bay on 8:19am Wed 14 May 08
Hoddle? You must be having a laugh! He has so had his time. Added to which, his mental stability really questions his ability to do any sort of job in the public eye. Just talk to any Wolves fan.
Pearson was like a breath of fresh air in a dreadful season. He achieved his aim to keep us up, working against a backdrop of very little money, the transfer window was shut and he couldn't bring in any other coaching staff, so he just had to work with what was here.
To ditch Pearson would be the act that finally separates me from St Mary's.
Lowe Out!
Hoddle? You must be having a laugh! He has so had his time. Added to which, his mental stability really questions his ability to do any sort of job in the public eye. Just talk to any Wolves fan.
Pearson was like a breath of fresh air in a dreadful season. He achieved his aim to keep us up, working against a backdrop of very little money, the transfer window was shut and he couldn't bring in any other coaching staff, so he just had to work with what was here.
To ditch Pearson would be the act that finally separates me from St Mary's.
There are many fans who will not give a jot about who runs the club until the first football is kicked next season. The problem we all face is who will be coaching and what sort of a squad will we have? Rupert will love to be involved - but he will need a weak manager who will do what he is told. History shows few Managers last under his guidance, and the fans want success. In my eye success and Rupert Lowe is a contradiction. We had a chance to go forward but we sold all the best players and replaced them with journeymen. The fans deserve better Mr Lowe - being one of the boys and getting down from your high horse may be a good start!
There are many fans who will not give a jot about who runs the club until the first football is kicked next season. The problem we all face is who will be coaching and what sort of a squad will we have? Rupert will love to be involved - but he will need a weak manager who will do what he is told. History shows few Managers last under his guidance, and the fans want success. In my eye success and Rupert Lowe is a contradiction. We had a chance to go forward but we sold all the best players and replaced them with journeymen. The fans deserve better Mr Lowe - being one of the boys and getting down from your high horse may be a good start!
Posted by: Pro-Forma, Hythe on 8:29am Wed 14 May 08
Rupert Lowe will bring his experience back to our club.
He also has had almost 2 Years to look at what went wrong. This will be a good thing.
At the moment with Crouch and co we cannot even let players know what the situation for them will be next season. This club needs clarity to move forward.
Rupert Lowe will bring his experience back to our club.
He also has had almost 2 Years to look at what went wrong. This will be a good thing.
At the moment with Crouch and co we cannot even let players know what the situation for them will be next season. This club needs clarity to move forward.
Posted by: Ben, Southampton on 8:31am Wed 14 May 08
If Lowe is coming back then there is nothing we can really do about it.
One thing we can do is continue to champion Nigel Pearson as the manager. He MUST stay. He has done a fantastic job and with him we should be able to look 3-5-10 years down the line (ok, I realise things happen!). He is young. The players play for him. Rupert must see this.
This club is on the edge of oblivion and now is the time to try and keep parity!
Saints for ever. Pearson for Manager.
If Lowe is coming back then there is nothing we can really do about it.
One thing we can do is continue to champion Nigel Pearson as the manager. He MUST stay. He has done a fantastic job and with him we should be able to look 3-5-10 years down the line (ok, I realise things happen!). He is young. The players play for him. Rupert must see this.
This club is on the edge of oblivion and now is the time to try and keep parity!
Posted by: Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 on 8:38am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]undervover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote: Let\'s get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] Lowe\'s PR team up early this morning ![/quote] Couldn't agree more! As for saying too many draws with Pearson, just look at Hoddle's record with Wolves - they did nothing but draw!! So what happended about the investment money that according to the Echo was almost on the table -another piece of duff journalism! Of course the problem with Rupert was that he combined both the Chief Exec and Chairman roles and unfortunately it doesn't look like he's learned from his mistake - the only difference being that Wilde will be Chairman of the football board. So - stand by for all players on more than 50 bob a week to be sold off!! On the bright side though - it'll be good to have a top radio station again and great burgers on the conscourse - got to get yer priorities right!
undervover wrote:
The_Shotster wrote: Let\'s get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Lowe\'s PR team up early this morning !
Couldn't agree more! As for saying too many draws with Pearson, just look at Hoddle's record with Wolves - they did nothing but draw!! So what happended about the investment money that according to the Echo was almost on the table -another piece of duff journalism! Of course the problem with Rupert was that he combined both the Chief Exec and Chairman roles and unfortunately it doesn't look like he's learned from his mistake - the only difference being that Wilde will be Chairman of the football board. So - stand by for all players on more than 50 bob a week to be sold off!! On the bright side though - it'll be good to have a top radio station again and great burgers on the conscourse - got to get yer priorities right!
Posted by: I agree, Opionion on 8:43am Wed 14 May 08
I agree with Ben on both Lowe (unfortunately) and Pearson.
Pearson has earnt the right to be given an extended chance to establish himself. I would have serious doubts about either Hoddel or Taylor, best buddies coincidentally, coming in. I see them both as "Burley Type Managers", i.e. more theory than practical work, and both have very poor track records as managers/coaches.
I believe and hope that messrs Lowe and Wilde will be on their bikes when they have overseen the sale of their shares, and just maybe we can get on with being the loved and respected football club that we were pre Lowe!!
I agree with Ben on both Lowe (unfortunately) and Pearson.
Pearson has earnt the right to be given an extended chance to establish himself. I would have serious doubts about either Hoddel or Taylor, best buddies coincidentally, coming in. I see them both as "Burley Type Managers", i.e. more theory than practical work, and both have very poor track records as managers/coaches.
I believe and hope that messrs Lowe and Wilde will be on their bikes when they have overseen the sale of their shares, and just maybe we can get on with being the loved and respected football club that we were pre Lowe!!
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 8:50am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
This is a farce.
I wish these Muppets would stop playing hot potatoe with my club.
I wonder who will be in charge next year? Is it going to be Lowe / Wilde is it going to be Crouch, who knows, anyones guess. I wish the PLC wankers would just nob off!!!
If they get rid of Pearson that will be a big mistake, he inherited a bunch of losers. He got the signings in that made the difference. He should be given his chance, instead of changing our manager [bold]AGAIN[/bold]. Is Lowe, an individual who instantly splits the fans going to create further controversy and get rid of Pearson???!!! Is Lowe going to make it 11 (full time) managers (since Souness 1996) in 12 years???????
THE YEAR LONG PANTO IN SFC IS REALLY GETTING QUITE TIRESOM. I HAVE INVESTED £460 IN IT AGAIN THIS SEASON, PLEASE GET SOMETHING RIGHT LOWE. [/quote] I like Panto.
We need more entertainment and less 0-0 draws!!!
Wazza wrote:
This is a farce.
I wish these Muppets would stop playing hot potatoe with my club.
I wonder who will be in charge next year? Is it going to be Lowe / Wilde is it going to be Crouch, who knows, anyones guess. I wish the PLC wankers would just nob off!!!
If they get rid of Pearson that will be a big mistake, he inherited a bunch of losers. He got the signings in that made the difference. He should be given his chance, instead of changing our manager AGAIN. Is Lowe, an individual who instantly splits the fans going to create further controversy and get rid of Pearson???!!! Is Lowe going to make it 11 (full time) managers (since Souness 1996) in 12 years???????
THE YEAR LONG PANTO IN SFC IS REALLY GETTING QUITE TIRESOM. I HAVE INVESTED £460 IN IT AGAIN THIS SEASON, PLEASE GET SOMETHING RIGHT LOWE.
Get used to it none of us are capable of stopping him unless we have a large pot. Holding off buying season ticket for next year to se if he keeps Pearson on (at least he could see the problems with the team just like the fans and sorted it)Just going to cherry pick games to start with and will possibly purchase a half year ticket at christmas if things are going ok. I just cant pay for and go to every game as this year and watch the dross that was dished up.
In short wupert if you want my money this year you will have to do the same as every other business and provide quality goods.
Get used to it none of us are capable of stopping him unless we have a large pot. Holding off buying season ticket for next year to se if he keeps Pearson on (at least he could see the problems with the team just like the fans and sorted it)Just going to cherry pick games to start with and will possibly purchase a half year ticket at christmas if things are going ok. I just cant pay for and go to every game as this year and watch the dross that was dished up.
In short wupert if you want my money this year you will have to do the same as every other business and provide quality goods.
Posted by: Fred, Southampton on 9:33am Wed 14 May 08
It is abundantly clear from the 23 posts above that the vast majority do not want Rupert Lowe back. So why do those shareholders who are supporting him on the board think he is worthy of their pledges?
If that is the standard of thinking at SFC at the moment, oblivion is round the corner.
Goodnight SFC, it was good knowing you.
It is abundantly clear from the 23 posts above that the vast majority do not want Rupert Lowe back. So why do those shareholders who are supporting him on the board think he is worthy of their pledges?
If that is the standard of thinking at SFC at the moment, oblivion is round the corner.
Posted by: Respect, Fed up on 9:38am Wed 14 May 08
I sugest that all geniune, sane and "straight" Southampton Football Club supporters and sympathisers refrain from posting on this site until that childish moron Crew657 is either blocked or just goes away!
I sugest that all geniune, sane and "straight" Southampton Football Club supporters and sympathisers refrain from posting on this site until that childish moron Crew657 is either blocked or just goes away!
What a total disgrace that this idiot is returning after all the mess he [bold]PERSONALLY[/bold] created.
Utter shambles and thank god i didnt renew my season ticket !
What a total disgrace that this idiot is returning after all the mess he PERSONALLY created.
Utter shambles and thank god i didnt renew my season ticket !
[quote][bold]SaintMartin[/bold] wrote:
Rumour I heard is that it will be Shearer if this consortium get in[/quote] For goodness sake, for the umpteenth time, there is no investor, it's all a smoke screen from Crouch, he's a liar, we are stuck with Lowe/Wilde/Crouch, now, we all know they are all idiots but my preference is for Lowe but that doesn't mean to say I'm welcoming him back, it's just that he's the best option out of a very, very bad bunch.
Hoddle and Lowe have both said Hoddle is not returning so everybodsy can stop getting your knickers in a twist over that.
SaintMartin wrote:
Rumour I heard is that it will be Shearer if this consortium get in
For goodness sake, for the umpteenth time, there is no investor, it's all a smoke screen from Crouch, he's a liar, we are stuck with Lowe/Wilde/Crouch, now, we all know they are all idiots but my preference is for Lowe but that doesn't mean to say I'm welcoming him back, it's just that he's the best option out of a very, very bad bunch.
Hoddle and Lowe have both said Hoddle is not returning so everybodsy can stop getting your knickers in a twist over that.
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Anyone but Hoddle please. Why not keep that promising young manager we've got already?
The_Shotster wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Anyone but Hoddle please. Why not keep that promising young manager we've got already?
Posted by: DJI, Kingsland Centre on 10:11am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] You don't know what you are talking about Shotster. Until Pearson arrived, Saints were in denial of the position in the league and what lied ahead. Pearson was brave enough to recognise that we were sliding under Burley towards relegation and used his influence to get us a Defence to stop us leaking goals. He made the right decisions for the Club to keep us up. Everybody knows that you build your team in the CCC from the back.
Whilst you mention his record of too many draws, just look at the rest of the league and compare. Bristol City, ,Stoke, Watford and WBA all had similar results but still landed in a promotion battle. So we didn't do too bad by that yardstick.
If you had watched Saints since Pearson arrived, you will also have noted more passion and energy around the squad which showed against Bristol City, WBA and Sheffield Utd. It's a shame that so many 'Saints fans' stayed away until the final day, they may have seen something good building. Just ask those fans that invaded the pitch what they think of Pearson; I would bet they don't want Hoddle? Pearson now knows the players, their strengths and weaknesses, who is worth keeping and who should be sold, and where he needs to strengthen. Hoddle would have to start from scratch and we would not be any further forward.
The_Shotster wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
You don't know what you are talking about Shotster. Until Pearson arrived, Saints were in denial of the position in the league and what lied ahead. Pearson was brave enough to recognise that we were sliding under Burley towards relegation and used his influence to get us a Defence to stop us leaking goals. He made the right decisions for the Club to keep us up. Everybody knows that you build your team in the CCC from the back.
Whilst you mention his record of too many draws, just look at the rest of the league and compare. Bristol City, ,Stoke, Watford and WBA all had similar results but still landed in a promotion battle. So we didn't do too bad by that yardstick.
If you had watched Saints since Pearson arrived, you will also have noted more passion and energy around the squad which showed against Bristol City, WBA and Sheffield Utd. It's a shame that so many 'Saints fans' stayed away until the final day, they may have seen something good building. Just ask those fans that invaded the pitch what they think of Pearson; I would bet they don't want Hoddle? Pearson now knows the players, their strengths and weaknesses, who is worth keeping and who should be sold, and where he needs to strengthen. Hoddle would have to start from scratch and we would not be any further forward.
Posted by: John, Southampton on 10:25am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Pro-Forma[/bold] wrote:
Rupert Lowe will bring his experience back to our club. He also has had almost 2 Years to look at what went wrong. This will be a good thing. At the moment with Crouch and co we cannot even let players know what the situation for them will be next season. This club needs clarity to move forward.[/quote] What the hell is this comment.
RL PR team at least be subtle with your comments.
Pro-Forma wrote:
Rupert Lowe will bring his experience back to our club. He also has had almost 2 Years to look at what went wrong. This will be a good thing. At the moment with Crouch and co we cannot even let players know what the situation for them will be next season. This club needs clarity to move forward.
What the hell is this comment.
RL PR team at least be subtle with your comments.
Well things can't get any worse than they have been for the past year or so. As long as Lowe does 3 things the club will be ok untl new investment comes:
1. NO forced sales
2. KEEP Pearson as manager
3. stand down if and when investment/take-over happens
if there were no frced sales then selling wastes of space such as Dye, Skacel, BWP and maybe one of the Polish strikers ( because lets face it, they have been completely different this season, Saganowski was tipped as 2nd most likely to be top scorer yet only claimed 3 goals in well over 20 apps)then we would hav at least £8m to by in some decent defenders and maybe another striker ( we can't just rely on Stern John)
Well things can't get any worse than they have been for the past year or so. As long as Lowe does 3 things the club will be ok untl new investment comes:
1. NO forced sales
2. KEEP Pearson as manager
3. stand down if and when investment/take-over happens
if there were no frced sales then selling wastes of space such as Dye, Skacel, BWP and maybe one of the Polish strikers ( because lets face it, they have been completely different this season, Saganowski was tipped as 2nd most likely to be top scorer yet only claimed 3 goals in well over 20 apps)then we would hav at least £8m to by in some decent defenders and maybe another striker ( we can't just rely on Stern John)
Posted by: saintorsinner, Fareham on 10:30am Wed 14 May 08
The person that really needs to take a long look in the mirror and examine the dire consequences of his actions on the club is Michael Wilde. We have to assume that just like other egomaniacs such as Robert Mugabe, Rupert Lowe is divorced from the ral world and thinks that he is doing the right thing. As such, it's the people that are placing him back in power that need to take a long hard look at themselves.
The person that really needs to take a long look in the mirror and examine the dire consequences of his actions on the club is Michael Wilde. We have to assume that just like other egomaniacs such as Robert Mugabe, Rupert Lowe is divorced from the ral world and thinks that he is doing the right thing. As such, it's the people that are placing him back in power that need to take a long hard look at themselves.
Posted by: red n white, southampton on 12:05pm Wed 14 May 08
Great news the muppets are back and with no investment and i do hope they keep pearson here as hes done a great job under crap circumstances and hes given these players passion and belief, so those people who say yes to hoddle and no to pearson wake up will ya, pearson to stay but under lowe, doubt it i cant see pearson wantin to work under lowe and who cud blame him. oh well sfc rip
Great news the muppets are back and with no investment and i do hope they keep pearson here as hes done a great job under crap circumstances and hes given these players passion and belief, so those people who say yes to hoddle and no to pearson wake up will ya, pearson to stay but under lowe, doubt it i cant see pearson wantin to work under lowe and who cud blame him. oh well sfc rip
[quote][bold]H[/bold] wrote:
My understanding is that Lawrie is going to be 'forced' to resign today....again! What a sad day for a great club and a fantastic servant. [/quote] When was he forced to resign before?! He's walked out a couple of times but forced? Never.
H wrote:
My understanding is that Lawrie is going to be 'forced' to resign today....again! What a sad day for a great club and a fantastic servant.
When was he forced to resign before?! He's walked out a couple of times but forced? Never.
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!!
Starting to feel like big brother is watching
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!!
[quote][bold]Portswood Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]SaintMartin[/bold] wrote: Rumour I heard is that it will be Shearer if this consortium get in[/quote] For goodness sake, for the umpteenth time, there is no investor, it\'s all a smoke screen from Crouch, he\'s a liar, we are stuck with Lowe/Wilde/Crouch, now, we all know they are all idiots but my preference is for Lowe but that doesn\'t mean to say I\'m welcoming him back, it\'s just that he\'s the best option out of a very, very bad bunch. Hoddle and Lowe have both said Hoddle is not returning so everybodsy can stop getting your knickers in a twist over that.[/quote] I agree with this, mostly, although I think there might be a takeover at some later point.
But Hoddle? In our dreams. Or nightmares, but whichever, it's not going to happen. We've got to wise up to the fact that there ISN'T ANY MONEY, whoever is in charge.
FWIW, I think they should give Pearson a year's contract, tell him that he has to sell if he wants to buy, and see how he does. His record in terms of points is actually lousy, but I like his attitude.
"If you had watched Saints since Pearson arrived, you will also have noted more passion and energy around the squad which showed against Bristol City, WBA and Sheffield Utd."
Yeah, well I was at the Coventry and Burnley games, and I didn't see too much of that then. We were lifeless and abysmal, much worse than anything I saw under Burley, although I had the good fortune not to be there for any of the pastings we took.
Portswood Pete wrote:
SaintMartin wrote: Rumour I heard is that it will be Shearer if this consortium get in
For goodness sake, for the umpteenth time, there is no investor, it\'s all a smoke screen from Crouch, he\'s a liar, we are stuck with Lowe/Wilde/Crouch, now, we all know they are all idiots but my preference is for Lowe but that doesn\'t mean to say I\'m welcoming him back, it\'s just that he\'s the best option out of a very, very bad bunch. Hoddle and Lowe have both said Hoddle is not returning so everybodsy can stop getting your knickers in a twist over that.
I agree with this, mostly, although I think there might be a takeover at some later point.
But Hoddle? In our dreams. Or nightmares, but whichever, it's not going to happen. We've got to wise up to the fact that there ISN'T ANY MONEY, whoever is in charge.
FWIW, I think they should give Pearson a year's contract, tell him that he has to sell if he wants to buy, and see how he does. His record in terms of points is actually lousy, but I like his attitude.
"If you had watched Saints since Pearson arrived, you will also have noted more passion and energy around the squad which showed against Bristol City, WBA and Sheffield Utd."
Yeah, well I was at the Coventry and Burnley games, and I didn't see too much of that then. We were lifeless and abysmal, much worse than anything I saw under Burley, although I had the good fortune not to be there for any of the pastings we took.
Posted by: Insider, soton on 12:37pm Wed 14 May 08
Lots of strong opinion from passionate supporters and understandable. The trouble is most of it is based on heresay and half truths. I dont rate Lowe for many reasons not least because he is not a football man. BUT there are 2 positive things that his return will bring. Firstly he is a money man and he will bend over backwards to make sure his investment is protected therefore doing all he can to avoid administration. Secondly and most importantly the academy. I have inside knowledge of what has gone on over the last 18mths and it is not pretty. Not so long ago our academy was the envy of most Prem clubs. The likes of Chelsea took a good look at what we were doing when they developed theirs. Pompey didnt even have one. Over recent months it has been decimated even to the extent that we have lost some of our best people to smaller clubs and one of the best coaches went to Pompey. Where would our club be now if we hadnt had the money for Bridge, Walcott, Jones, Baird etc etc? Get Lowe in for 6 mths, let him rebuild the academy and find an investor to sell his shares at a profit, then he can bugger off. The truth is sometimes you just have to make a deal with the devil.
Lots of strong opinion from passionate supporters and understandable. The trouble is most of it is based on heresay and half truths. I dont rate Lowe for many reasons not least because he is not a football man. BUT there are 2 positive things that his return will bring. Firstly he is a money man and he will bend over backwards to make sure his investment is protected therefore doing all he can to avoid administration. Secondly and most importantly the academy. I have inside knowledge of what has gone on over the last 18mths and it is not pretty. Not so long ago our academy was the envy of most Prem clubs. The likes of Chelsea took a good look at what we were doing when they developed theirs. Pompey didnt even have one. Over recent months it has been decimated even to the extent that we have lost some of our best people to smaller clubs and one of the best coaches went to Pompey. Where would our club be now if we hadnt had the money for Bridge, Walcott, Jones, Baird etc etc? Get Lowe in for 6 mths, let him rebuild the academy and find an investor to sell his shares at a profit, then he can bugger off. The truth is sometimes you just have to make a deal with the devil.
[quote][bold]Nick H[/bold] wrote:
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching[/quote] I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards.
I've reported "by any means necessary"s post as well. What a **** idiot.
Nick H wrote:
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching
I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards.
I've reported "by any means necessary"s post as well. What a **** idiot.
[quote][bold]A True Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]H[/bold] wrote: My understanding is that Lawrie is going to be 'forced' to resign today....again! What a sad day for a great club and a fantastic servant. [/quote] When was he forced to resign before?! He's walked out a couple of times but forced? Never.[/quote] Forced meaning under pressure to resign due to pressure excerted from where the power is held. Lawrie is a southampton Director now and won't be by the time RL is back. There has only been one other time that Lawrie left the board....remember? Whatever your motive or attempt to limit the impact of today's events, Lawrie is and has been a great servant for this club and I seriously question why on earth you would question that!
A True Saint wrote:
H wrote: My understanding is that Lawrie is going to be 'forced' to resign today....again! What a sad day for a great club and a fantastic servant.
When was he forced to resign before?! He's walked out a couple of times but forced? Never.
Forced meaning under pressure to resign due to pressure excerted from where the power is held. Lawrie is a southampton Director now and won't be by the time RL is back. There has only been one other time that Lawrie left the board....remember? Whatever your motive or attempt to limit the impact of today's events, Lawrie is and has been a great servant for this club and I seriously question why on earth you would question that!
Posted by: Gordon Mockles, Soton on 12:52pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Eaststander[/bold] wrote:
Good to see lowes pr team up bright and early. Can expect more posts like the hoddle one above now lowe will be earning a good wage again[/quote] Very true! It's pathetic eh? All this moronic pro-Lowe cr*p. Barring a small, deluded minority, take a poll of most SFC fans and most will completely refute and be against the return of Lowe, Wilde too for that matter. Yet, you see these pro-Lowe supporters spouting the most inane rubbish known to man. It's ridiculous. [bold]More ridiculous is the fact that these parties employ or coerce people into wasting their time trying to sway and manipulate a fan base. How arrogant is that? If they were worth anything in the first place, surely they should concentrate on matters football and club orientated, rather than personal egotistical agenda! Jokers, all of them![/bold]
Eaststander wrote:
Good to see lowes pr team up bright and early. Can expect more posts like the hoddle one above now lowe will be earning a good wage again
Very true! It's pathetic eh? All this moronic pro-Lowe cr*p. Barring a small, deluded minority, take a poll of most SFC fans and most will completely refute and be against the return of Lowe, Wilde too for that matter. Yet, you see these pro-Lowe supporters spouting the most inane rubbish known to man. It's ridiculous. More ridiculous is the fact that these parties employ or coerce people into wasting their time trying to sway and manipulate a fan base. How arrogant is that? If they were worth anything in the first place, surely they should concentrate on matters football and club orientated, rather than personal egotistical agenda! Jokers, all of them!
Posted by: by any means necessary, south oxon on 1:37pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Jamie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick H[/bold] wrote: ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching[/quote] I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards. I\'ve reported \"by any means necessary\"s post as well. What a **** idiot.[/quote] [bold]Jamie[/bold] I was [bold]reporting[/bold] the post for being offensive!!!!!! You need to read a little more carefully!!
As a genuine fan/lifelong season ticket holder we need to rid ourselves of the accusations about Lowe & Child ****/ignore the 657 Crew and concentrate soley on our discussions about the club we love !!
Jamie...when you are ready to say sorry I'll be here!
Jamie wrote:
Nick H wrote: ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching
I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards. I\'ve reported \"by any means necessary\"s post as well. What a **** idiot.
Jamie I was reporting the post for being offensive!!!!!! You need to read a little more carefully!!
As a genuine fan/lifelong season ticket holder we need to rid ourselves of the accusations about Lowe & Child ****/ignore the 657 Crew and concentrate soley on our discussions about the club we love !!
Jamie...when you are ready to say sorry I'll be here!
Posted by: Jamie Lawrence, plymouth on 1:45pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Nick H[/bold] wrote:
Eastander.... Well said sir. Lowe and his cronies have always thought that us fans are a thick bunch. I'm sure his PR team are glad to be back, money for old rope. I for one will not be willing to forgive and forget. Lowes ego is the biggest thing he will bring to the table. SHOTSTER.. grow up, I cannot for the life of me understand why the Pro-Lowe "fans" still welcome him back and state how much good he did for us. Blinkered views. Yes lovely stadium etc etc, but bit too nice for championship or div 1. Dont forget he was selling the family silver with the sole aim of lining his and his cronies pockets. But then these "fans" have very selective memories. I will not welcome Lowe with open arms.As I am one of the LUNATIC FRINGE that had the audacity to question a city gents motives. Thanks Leon for all you have tried to do for us, if nothing else at least we KNOW he tried his hardest. Long live Leon, shame on you Lowe.[/quote] we are thick as fans....we ousted lowe in the first place for who exactly?
for once, I would love for us fans to just shut the hell up..we dont really have much of a good record in leaving our mark in recent years....booing peter crouch, fuller, delap, telfer, lowe, return of hoddle, and then, backed burley for far too long..
welcome back mr Lowe, and dont listen to us again...
Nick H wrote:
Eastander.... Well said sir. Lowe and his cronies have always thought that us fans are a thick bunch. I'm sure his PR team are glad to be back, money for old rope. I for one will not be willing to forgive and forget. Lowes ego is the biggest thing he will bring to the table. SHOTSTER.. grow up, I cannot for the life of me understand why the Pro-Lowe "fans" still welcome him back and state how much good he did for us. Blinkered views. Yes lovely stadium etc etc, but bit too nice for championship or div 1. Dont forget he was selling the family silver with the sole aim of lining his and his cronies pockets. But then these "fans" have very selective memories. I will not welcome Lowe with open arms.As I am one of the LUNATIC FRINGE that had the audacity to question a city gents motives. Thanks Leon for all you have tried to do for us, if nothing else at least we KNOW he tried his hardest. Long live Leon, shame on you Lowe.
we are thick as fans....we ousted lowe in the first place for who exactly?
for once, I would love for us fans to just shut the hell up..we dont really have much of a good record in leaving our mark in recent years....booing peter crouch, fuller, delap, telfer, lowe, return of hoddle, and then, backed burley for far too long..
welcome back mr Lowe, and dont listen to us again...
Posted by: Martin Betts, Suffolk on 1:47pm Wed 14 May 08
Lowe is just a politician, there is absolutely no chance of him just standing to one side, even if some multi-million pound investment was to show an interest, he would put a spin on whatever situation to try and portray himself as the saviour of SFC.
Wilde is only a temporary appointment to soft-soap the fans into thinking that things will be different than they were under Lowes first stint in charge, he'll be history within 6 months, Lowe will then have full power again.
But whatever happens, hopefully things may start to move forward on the pitch, we need to build a squad and rebuild the club, so that we can seriously dream about a prolonged return to the Premiership.
Lowe is just a politician, there is absolutely no chance of him just standing to one side, even if some multi-million pound investment was to show an interest, he would put a spin on whatever situation to try and portray himself as the saviour of SFC.
Wilde is only a temporary appointment to soft-soap the fans into thinking that things will be different than they were under Lowes first stint in charge, he'll be history within 6 months, Lowe will then have full power again.
But whatever happens, hopefully things may start to move forward on the pitch, we need to build a squad and rebuild the club, so that we can seriously dream about a prolonged return to the Premiership.
Posted by: thedelldays, plymouth on 1:50pm Wed 14 May 08
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long...
I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long...
I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 1:55pm Wed 14 May 08
If Hoddle was such a good manager why has he been out of a job for so long! Have people not forgotten he sh*fted us for Spurs. He hasn't exactly got an amazing record as a manager and would cost a lot of money...money which we haven't got! Pearson is a great coach and I believe he will be a great manager...why should we let him go to another club to prove it and be sorry we let him go like a lot of promising players who have been let go...Chris Macdonald - remember him? Top scorer in the SPL to name one.
Lets give him a full season and pre-season to see what he is capable of I don't think he will let us down!
If Hoddle was such a good manager why has he been out of a job for so long! Have people not forgotten he sh*fted us for Spurs. He hasn't exactly got an amazing record as a manager and would cost a lot of money...money which we haven't got! Pearson is a great coach and I believe he will be a great manager...why should we let him go to another club to prove it and be sorry we let him go like a lot of promising players who have been let go...Chris Macdonald - remember him? Top scorer in the SPL to name one.
Lets give him a full season and pre-season to see what he is capable of I don't think he will let us down!
Posted by: Simon, Portsmouth on 1:58pm Wed 14 May 08
As a portsmouth supporter but working in southampton i just generally feel sorry for the club, Lowe coming back will help you stay out of administration as he is a very good businessman. I recently bought shares in Southampton Leisure Holdings and Lowe coming back will only make the share price rise.
The rumours/dreams of a hoddle return would probably be a mistake but i dont really know enough about it. Fingers crossed the club will be more successful next season and maybe get back in the top flight so we can have a good derby again!
As a portsmouth supporter but working in southampton i just generally feel sorry for the club, Lowe coming back will help you stay out of administration as he is a very good businessman. I recently bought shares in Southampton Leisure Holdings and Lowe coming back will only make the share price rise.
The rumours/dreams of a hoddle return would probably be a mistake but i dont really know enough about it. Fingers crossed the club will be more successful next season and maybe get back in the top flight so we can have a good derby again!
Posted by: Stu, New-Forest on 2:27pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]thedelldays[/bold] wrote:
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long... I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two[/quote] Oh dear, keep taking the pills. It's reverted to that old minority again of 31,999 persons yelling they wanted Lowe out.
thedelldays wrote:
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long... I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two
Oh dear, keep taking the pills. It's reverted to that old minority again of 31,999 persons yelling they wanted Lowe out.
Posted by: Benny Fitt, Thornhill on 2:49pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
Cheer up everyone ; two of our previous managers are in the cup final on Saturday ; who are you supporting ? ?[/quote] I am supporting a wife, three daughters and four sons.
If you are offering financial assistance, I would certainly appreciate it because, by the time I've had a few beers and bought my fags, the benefit has nearly all gone!
Peter wrote:
Cheer up everyone ; two of our previous managers are in the cup final on Saturday ; who are you supporting ? ?
I am supporting a wife, three daughters and four sons.
If you are offering financial assistance, I would certainly appreciate it because, by the time I've had a few beers and bought my fags, the benefit has nearly all gone!
Shows how much the story on the investment was a pile of rubbish. It's a shame it has come to this with Lowe at the helm. Lets see what happens and judge on the next few months not his past. If he is all about money he is going to have to do something very soon, otherwise he'll loose everything he ever put into the club.
Shows how much the story on the investment was a pile of rubbish. It's a shame it has come to this with Lowe at the helm. Lets see what happens and judge on the next few months not his past. If he is all about money he is going to have to do something very soon, otherwise he'll loose everything he ever put into the club.
Posted by: Robert J, London on 2:54pm Wed 14 May 08
KEEP Pearson as manager!
A campaign should be started and as much influence and pressure as possible should come from us fans. The power should come from the bottom and not from the top.
KEEP Pearson as manager!
A campaign should be started and as much influence and pressure as possible should come from us fans. The power should come from the bottom and not from the top.
Posted by: BP saint, bitterne park on 3:17pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] Are you insane? - Hoddle is the draw specialist - ask any wolves fan. Pearson stopped the rot of a plummeting club and he has superb leadership skills - just ask any sheff wed fan.
Pearson had to deal with all the mess GB left behind so he must be credited with halting the numerous defeats and defensive mistakes even if it meant a lot of draws. He instilled discipline, organisation and desire back in to a bunch of lost sheep. How long did it take Pearson to realise our defensive shortcomings? Not long hence Lucketti and Perry and Richard Wright arrived. GB and indeed twitchy down the road failed to sort this out during longer tenures at thre club than Pearson has had. We missed the boat with Mark Hughes because of no experience - Roy Keane didn't have any either yet look at them now. In some respects most could predict that they would both be successful because of how they were as players. Look at Pearson - the best leader on the pitch in Sheff wed history, known for being a disciplinarian and taking no nonsense - thats EXACTLY the sort of man our club needs to take us forward. Hoddle would be an awful backward step - just compare the people skills of the two men in question.
If Pearson goes than I will not be supporting Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde because they will have proved to me that they know little or nothing about football or the best for our club.
The_Shotster wrote:
Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Are you insane? - Hoddle is the draw specialist - ask any wolves fan. Pearson stopped the rot of a plummeting club and he has superb leadership skills - just ask any sheff wed fan.
Pearson had to deal with all the mess GB left behind so he must be credited with halting the numerous defeats and defensive mistakes even if it meant a lot of draws. He instilled discipline, organisation and desire back in to a bunch of lost sheep. How long did it take Pearson to realise our defensive shortcomings? Not long hence Lucketti and Perry and Richard Wright arrived. GB and indeed twitchy down the road failed to sort this out during longer tenures at thre club than Pearson has had. We missed the boat with Mark Hughes because of no experience - Roy Keane didn't have any either yet look at them now. In some respects most could predict that they would both be successful because of how they were as players. Look at Pearson - the best leader on the pitch in Sheff wed history, known for being a disciplinarian and taking no nonsense - thats EXACTLY the sort of man our club needs to take us forward. Hoddle would be an awful backward step - just compare the people skills of the two men in question.
If Pearson goes than I will not be supporting Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde because they will have proved to me that they know little or nothing about football or the best for our club.
[quote][bold]supporter[/bold] wrote:
Could the Echo please find another picture of Lowe - one that doesn\'t show him so deserving of the \'smug git\' tag? Or is that not possible?[/quote] Sorry, that's what I look like... and that's what I am!
supporter wrote:
Could the Echo please find another picture of Lowe - one that doesn\'t show him so deserving of the \'smug git\' tag? Or is that not possible?
Sorry, that's what I look like... and that's what I am!
I see that RL is returning to the Saints board to put in some cost saving measures to 'save the club'! This is the man who decided that giving a job to his mate at a reported salary of half a million a year was more important than investing in players. The man who spent 2 million pounds on a supersized tent with computer games to improve players reaction times was a good idea! The man who insisted on buying the Tin Man (for 4.5 million) against his managers wishes, and even after a bad medical! The man who got through a manager a year and who is already apparently lining up yet another one! The man who thought it would help the team to demand an EGM at a critical part of the season when relegation was a real possibility! Well, I for one will never, ever go to another Saints match while he is in charge. I actually hope they do go into administration because it seems that that is the only way we will ever get rid of him! He is a pompous, arrogant idiot who knows nothing about football and even less about running a football club.
I see that RL is returning to the Saints board to put in some cost saving measures to 'save the club'! This is the man who decided that giving a job to his mate at a reported salary of half a million a year was more important than investing in players. The man who spent 2 million pounds on a supersized tent with computer games to improve players reaction times was a good idea! The man who insisted on buying the Tin Man (for 4.5 million) against his managers wishes, and even after a bad medical! The man who got through a manager a year and who is already apparently lining up yet another one! The man who thought it would help the team to demand an EGM at a critical part of the season when relegation was a real possibility! Well, I for one will never, ever go to another Saints match while he is in charge. I actually hope they do go into administration because it seems that that is the only way we will ever get rid of him! He is a pompous, arrogant idiot who knows nothing about football and even less about running a football club.
[quote][bold]Ian[/bold] wrote:
I see that RL is returning to the Saints board to put in some cost saving measures to 'save the club'! This is the man who decided that giving a job to his mate at a reported salary of half a million a year was more important than investing in players. The man who spent 2 million pounds on a supersized tent with computer games to improve players reaction times was a good idea! The man who insisted on buying the Tin Man (for 4.5 million) against his managers wishes, and even after a bad medical! The man who got through a manager a year and who is already apparently lining up yet another one! The man who thought it would help the team to demand an EGM at a critical part of the season when relegation was a real possibility! Well, I for one will never, ever go to another Saints match while he is in charge. I actually hope they do go into administration because it seems that that is the only way we will ever get rid of him! He is a pompous, arrogant idiot who knows nothing about football and even less about running a football club.[/quote] The only place to cut costs is players wages. This means we will have to watch a below par team for several seasons in the Championship. Forget about challenging to go up.
The only person who will be well paid is RL on around £400 thousand a year.
And he will put off any investor because he has nothing else in life to do.
Ian wrote:
I see that RL is returning to the Saints board to put in some cost saving measures to 'save the club'! This is the man who decided that giving a job to his mate at a reported salary of half a million a year was more important than investing in players. The man who spent 2 million pounds on a supersized tent with computer games to improve players reaction times was a good idea! The man who insisted on buying the Tin Man (for 4.5 million) against his managers wishes, and even after a bad medical! The man who got through a manager a year and who is already apparently lining up yet another one! The man who thought it would help the team to demand an EGM at a critical part of the season when relegation was a real possibility! Well, I for one will never, ever go to another Saints match while he is in charge. I actually hope they do go into administration because it seems that that is the only way we will ever get rid of him! He is a pompous, arrogant idiot who knows nothing about football and even less about running a football club.
The only place to cut costs is players wages. This means we will have to watch a below par team for several seasons in the Championship. Forget about challenging to go up.
The only person who will be well paid is RL on around £400 thousand a year.
And he will put off any investor because he has nothing else in life to do.
What a **** twerp Rupert Lowe was and is. So too Andrew Cowan. And I should know!
Saints deserve what they get with this bunch of low achievers at the helm.[bold]bold[/bold]
What a **** twerp Rupert Lowe was and is. So too Andrew Cowan. And I should know!
Saints deserve what they get with this bunch of low achievers at the helm.
What a **** twerp Rupert Lowe was and is. So too Andrew Cowan. And I should know!
Saints deserve what they get with this bunch of low achievers at the helm.[bold]bold[/bold]
What a **** twerp Rupert Lowe was and is. So too Andrew Cowan. And I should know!
Saints deserve what they get with this bunch of low achievers at the helm.
Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ST holder, LOWE OUT on 3:36pm Wed 14 May 08
If lowe returns it is the DEATH of our once great club. I hope they leave the flags at half mast when they hand over the keys.
It is up to the fans to stay away now to show lowe he is NOT welcome here.
If lowe returns it is the DEATH of our once great club. I hope they leave the flags at half mast when they hand over the keys.
It is up to the fans to stay away now to show lowe he is NOT welcome here.
Posted by: saint al gosport, hants on 3:37pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Respect[/bold] wrote:
I sugest that all geniune, sane and "straight" Southampton Football Club supporters and sympathisers refrain from posting on this site until that childish moron Crew657 is either blocked or just goes away! [/quote] good news i think ........crew657 is banned
iv seen nothing of him in the last 2 days
Respect wrote:
I sugest that all geniune, sane and "straight" Southampton Football Club supporters and sympathisers refrain from posting on this site until that childish moron Crew657 is either blocked or just goes away!
good news i think ........crew657 is banned
iv seen nothing of him in the last 2 days
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote:
Time to start a riot, lets all go in the St Mary's car park and shout for Lowe's head, arms and legs when he arrives[/quote] Oh, and then everyone may be happy
Ric Flair wrote:
Time to start a riot, lets all go in the St Mary's car park and shout for Lowe's head, arms and legs when he arrives
Posted by: The_Shotster, Southampton on 3:49pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]BP saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The_Shotster[/bold] wrote: Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while. [/quote] Are you insane? - Hoddle is the draw specialist - ask any wolves fan. Pearson stopped the rot of a plummeting club and he has superb leadership skills - just ask any sheff wed fan. Pearson had to deal with all the mess GB left behind so he must be credited with halting the numerous defeats and defensive mistakes even if it meant a lot of draws. He instilled discipline, organisation and desire back in to a bunch of lost sheep. How long did it take Pearson to realise our defensive shortcomings? Not long hence Lucketti and Perry and Richard Wright arrived. GB and indeed twitchy down the road failed to sort this out during longer tenures at thre club than Pearson has had. We missed the boat with Mark Hughes because of no experience - Roy Keane didn't have any either yet look at them now. In some respects most could predict that they would both be successful because of how they were as players. Look at Pearson - the best leader on the pitch in Sheff wed history, known for being a disciplinarian and taking no nonsense - thats EXACTLY the sort of man our club needs to take us forward. Hoddle would be an awful backward step - just compare the people skills of the two men in question. If Pearson goes than I will not be supporting Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde because they will have proved to me that they know little or nothing about football or the best for our club. [/quote] Presumably if you won't support Lowe/Wilde then you are not a fan. Can I have your season ticket please. . . . . . .???
BP saint wrote:
The_Shotster wrote: Let's get Lowe in and then appoint Hoddle in time for pre-season training. Then we can hopefully have a FULL season with one very capable manager. In the meantime we can look for much needed investment. Pearson I am afraid is a good number two at the moment. His record is not great here. yes he kept us up JUST! ! However,there were too many draws. To stay in the league and challenge you need to win regularly. I believe Hoddle would do this for The Saints. Hoddle could be very successful and is young enough to be a stayer for quite a while.
Are you insane? - Hoddle is the draw specialist - ask any wolves fan. Pearson stopped the rot of a plummeting club and he has superb leadership skills - just ask any sheff wed fan. Pearson had to deal with all the mess GB left behind so he must be credited with halting the numerous defeats and defensive mistakes even if it meant a lot of draws. He instilled discipline, organisation and desire back in to a bunch of lost sheep. How long did it take Pearson to realise our defensive shortcomings? Not long hence Lucketti and Perry and Richard Wright arrived. GB and indeed twitchy down the road failed to sort this out during longer tenures at thre club than Pearson has had. We missed the boat with Mark Hughes because of no experience - Roy Keane didn't have any either yet look at them now. In some respects most could predict that they would both be successful because of how they were as players. Look at Pearson - the best leader on the pitch in Sheff wed history, known for being a disciplinarian and taking no nonsense - thats EXACTLY the sort of man our club needs to take us forward. Hoddle would be an awful backward step - just compare the people skills of the two men in question. If Pearson goes than I will not be supporting Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde because they will have proved to me that they know little or nothing about football or the best for our club.
Presumably if you won't support Lowe/Wilde then you are not a fan. Can I have your season ticket please. . . . . . .???
Posted by: whats up with this club, hants on 3:53pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]thedelldays[/bold] wrote:
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long...
I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two[/quote] OH MY GOD HOW MUCH DID MR LOWE PAY THE ECHO SUDDNLY THERE LOTS OF LOWE SUPPORTS HERE .. GET IT RIGHT WE ARE THE FANS AND YOUR PAY PACKET SO WHATS UP ........PLEASE MR LOWE CAN I HAVE MY MONEY BACK ......AND MAYBE 7,000 MORE
thedelldays wrote:
Good to see Lowe coming back..I for one wish some fans would just wind it in..for too long the vocal few have harmed this club...booing our own players, booing managers or the possible return of one..booing chairman and backing burley for far too long...
I hope that Lowe will ignore the vocal few within our fan base and sort the mess out that is SFC and try to get us some investment...he is a money man and would love it if he could be the one to sell us to a rich bloke or two
OH MY GOD HOW MUCH DID MR LOWE PAY THE ECHO SUDDNLY THERE LOTS OF LOWE SUPPORTS HERE .. GET IT RIGHT WE ARE THE FANS AND YOUR PAY PACKET SO WHATS UP ........PLEASE MR LOWE CAN I HAVE MY MONEY BACK ......AND MAYBE 7,000 MORE
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 4:06pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Jamie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick H[/bold] wrote:
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching[/quote] I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards.
I've reported "by any means necessary"s post as well. What a **** idiot.[/quote] F$%king Snitch
Jamie wrote:
Nick H wrote:
ECHO why have you removed a load of the postings that were put on here this morning?? Is it because of MR Lowes PR team, are we not singing enough for him. If I remember 28,000 of us sang for him last time he was in charge!!! Starting to feel like big brother is watching
I think the Echo should be a bit MORE active in moderating these message boards.
I've reported "by any means necessary"s post as well. What a **** idiot.
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - [bold]PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] .
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - PRIDE OF THE SOUTH .
Posted by: lowe and behold on 4:45pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Nick[/bold] wrote:
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - [bold]PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] . [/quote] YOU DIRTY SCATE C*** F*** O**! THERE IS ONLY ONE CROOK IN HAMPSHIRE! HARRY REDNOB
Nick wrote:
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - PRIDE OF THE SOUTH .
YOU DIRTY SCATE C*** F*** O**! THERE IS ONLY ONE CROOK IN HAMPSHIRE! HARRY REDNOB
Posted by: John, Southampton on 4:53pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Nick[/bold] wrote:
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - [bold]PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] . [/quote] So you are in Brighton.
I suppose for you PRIDE OF THE SOUTH is GAY PRIDE?
Another Skate poof.
Nick wrote:
Nice to see duck-shooting boy back at St Mary's. Is everyone looking forward to watching the South Coast's top team at Wembley on Saturday? There's only one team in Hampshire, and that's Pompey - PRIDE OF THE SOUTH .
So you are in Brighton.
I suppose for you PRIDE OF THE SOUTH is GAY PRIDE?
Another Skate poof.
Posted by: steveyot, harefield on 4:56pm Wed 14 May 08
It appears we are stuck with the unlikley alliance for the foreseeable future. Get ready for some serious penny pinching. Out will go all saleable assets - Dyer, Surman, Andrew Davies,Lallana, all high wage earners, Rasiak, Skacel, John, Viafara, Davis, Thomas, Euell,Wright Phillips Saganowski, Ostlund and Davis. Out will go those out of contract. Many I won't be sad to see go, some will be a crippling loss. I bet we pull out of the reserve league as well. Still renewed the season ticket though - I can support the team if not the board room. Thanks for everything Lawrie. COYR
It appears we are stuck with the unlikley alliance for the foreseeable future. Get ready for some serious penny pinching. Out will go all saleable assets - Dyer, Surman, Andrew Davies,Lallana, all high wage earners, Rasiak, Skacel, John, Viafara, Davis, Thomas, Euell,Wright Phillips Saganowski, Ostlund and Davis. Out will go those out of contract. Many I won't be sad to see go, some will be a crippling loss. I bet we pull out of the reserve league as well. Still renewed the season ticket though - I can support the team if not the board room. Thanks for everything Lawrie. COYR
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 4:57pm Wed 14 May 08
Crouch has left a club that only has the backing of the banks for one more season so Lowe and Wilde will have to make some very deep cuts, possibly so that the club can survive in the 1st division.
On the plus side of Lowe ans Wilde coming back, it will be easier for possible investors because the major shareholders will be on the board.
If Lowe and Wilde do have someone lined up to be team manager then I hope there is still a roll for NP.
Crouch has left a club that only has the backing of the banks for one more season so Lowe and Wilde will have to make some very deep cuts, possibly so that the club can survive in the 1st division.
On the plus side of Lowe ans Wilde coming back, it will be easier for possible investors because the major shareholders will be on the board.
If Lowe and Wilde do have someone lined up to be team manager then I hope there is still a roll for NP.
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