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Don't feel down - far better to go up at St. Mary's
12:17pm Tuesday 24th April 2012 in Adam Leitch
By Adam Leitch, Chief Sports Writer
Saints fans celebrating promotion after beating Walsall on the final day in League One
ANY Saints fans or players disappointed by last night’s West Ham victory shouldn’t be ...
... going up under your own steam, in front of a packed house at St Mary’s, is so much better!
There were no doubt plenty of Saints supporters who found themselves in a quandary before kick-off at the King Power Stadium.
Of course they wanted to see their team promoted as soon as possible.
But, surely, they were thinking they would prefer it to happen at St Mary’s in front of their own eyes on Saturday.
Surely they would want to be part of those sacred ‘I was there’ memories that happen so rarely for the majority of football supporters.
It’s time to be positive and bullish about Saints’ chances, not negative.
A West Ham draw or defeat last night would have meant no chance of a nailbiting finale in front of a sold out St Mary’s with an outpouring of raw emotion when the final whistle from the referee was sounded.
No scenes of jubilation as Rickie Lambert, Adam Lallana and Kelvin Davis embraced in wild celebration in the middle of the pitch before being mobbed by overwhelmed fans spilling onto the playing surface.
No huge party in the city the night it was confirmed, the culmination of a day to live long in the memory, when disparate people came together in a common joy.
Instead, there would have been a few smiles broken in the peace and quiet of living rooms before bed with work for most the following morning.
Of course West Ham’s win prolongs the nervousness for a few more days.
But for the sake of the club it’s time to be upbeat, look forward to a win and reflect what a shame if it had happened with Saints not playing and instead sealing their promotion on the back of another team’s failure.
That just wouldn’t seem like a fitting end to a terrific season.
Remember that Saints are still in second place, remember that one win, at home to a relegated side, and they are in the Premier League.
Remember all the times they have pulled it out of the bag this season.
Remember where they are in the table.
Ultimately, securing the promotion prize is what this great adventure called the Championship is all about.
And what better way to do than in front of your own fans?
There are 24 teams who stand at the start line in August. Each and every one has dreams and ambitions, and in this division about half of them think promotion is a realistic goal.
Only three will make it over the finishing line to stand on the podium tasting success, though.
For Saints it has felt like a long season, so why not go the whole distance?
There have been far more ups than downs, but even for the fans the pressure of being at the top from pretty much start to finish has been draining.
You would probably consider that the kindest way to get out of this league is to do what Reading have done – start poorly, lower expectations and then storm through the pack.
Saints, as is their want, have done things a harder way.
They have been in the top two all season with the rest aiming for them.
Wow, that is hard on the players and the manager and all credit to them for coming through it thus far.
When every team is gunning for you, when you are always the side to whom other teams want to raise their game to prove something, that is the hard way.
The key for Saints has been getting results at the right time.
If they were to have dropped down into the play-off positions then it would have had a massive psychological impact.
Who knows whether they would have fully recovered from it?
As it is, they have always found a way to keep themselves in the top two.
Only one more game to keep it that way.
Look forward to the celebrations.
Don’t fear the worst.
Comments(37)
King o' the Kingsland
says...
12:34pm Tue 24 Apr 12
gladbachsaint
says...
12:35pm Tue 24 Apr 12
randre
says...
12:36pm Tue 24 Apr 12
gladbachsaint wrote:Keep the faith Gladbachsaint... No doom and gloom... Throw a sicky too!!
But it is on TELLY :-( DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM AND GLOOOOOOOOOOOMMM :-( AND I HAVE TO BL**DY WORK :-( DOOM AND DOUBLE GLOOM :-(
JasperAG
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12:37pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Lovely piece.
Red&WhiteStripes
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12:43pm Tue 24 Apr 12
One Heart....One Vision
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12:47pm Tue 24 Apr 12
This is what the "Daily Echo" used to do every week...please keep it up will the positives.
It's times like this (like today & recently) that the Echo must get behind our City.....because we are fighting against the Wet Spam media circus.
Saintjon
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12:47pm Tue 24 Apr 12
saint Compo
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12:48pm Tue 24 Apr 12
What's the next tie-breaker? The spin of a coin?
Of course, it's academic 'cos we're going to win!
COYR
saint Compo
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12:51pm Tue 24 Apr 12
saint Compo wrote:To answer my own question, I've just seen a website which states that the next tie-breaker is the results between the 2 teams. We would prevail!!
Does anybody know what happens if we draw 1-1 and West Ham win 3-0? We'd both have the same points, same goal difference and same goals for.
What's the next tie-breaker? The spin of a coin?
Of course, it's academic 'cos we're going to win!
COYR
COYR
RedArmy1
says...
12:53pm Tue 24 Apr 12
WE ARE GOING UP TO THE PREMIERSHIP.
TO NIGEL AND THE TEAM.
WE DEMAND SUCCESS.
WE DEMAND THE WIN.
RED ARMY 2012.
PRISE-PASSION-HONOUR
.
Norwegian Saint
says...
1:04pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Coventrys "player of the year" Richard Keogh was sent off last week and is not available.
If we dont win this we don't deserve automatic promotion.
Nigel will have the boys look at the video of last year with the pitch invasion... they will all want it again.
Barcelona Saint
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1:29pm Tue 24 Apr 12
I see a win. A big one too! This it is lads, nearly there and off to the Promise Land for a season at least and hopefully many more..
Get behind the team at SMS and spur them on to amazing victory! We will be there, I am sure of it!!!
Who cares about TV? Even better and more incentive for us to showcase and do it! COYR! Support the Saints!
SaintYT
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1:31pm Tue 24 Apr 12
I'm having to contain these nerves as well insofar as the wife is concerned as she just doesnt understand the emotions of football; for example:
She couldnt understand why I chose to hit myself over the head with the remote control whilst watching the Blackpool game!!
She couldnt understand why I took myself into the garage on Saturday after Boro scored their second so that I could beat the crap out of a roll of carpet underlay!!
And she was certainly very upset when I happended to call my own daughter Southampton in general conversation!!!
Anyhow, back to the deep breathing exercises and listening to some dolphins!!!
One other quick point though which is a major worry of mine. Who will fill in on the right of midfield?? Could he start with both Butterfield and Richardson, with the latter sitting in front??
Signing off now: worried of Newport!!
OSPREYSAINT
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1:32pm Tue 24 Apr 12
stevesaint
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1:51pm Tue 24 Apr 12
sanjohn
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2:12pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Forget about the others down the road.
Trust in Nigel and our great team.
We can do it together.
COYR.
Strasbourg Saint
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2:48pm Tue 24 Apr 12
SaintYT wrote:I have often wondered why we don't use Butters and Richardson together more often.
My nerves have pretty much been on the edge since the Pompey game and have only got worse since Saturday. I was going to seek some form of counselling from fellow fans, but this article has helped although my working, sleeping and eating patterns will not be the same now until Sunday at the earliest!!
I'm having to contain these nerves as well insofar as the wife is concerned as she just doesnt understand the emotions of football; for example:
She couldnt understand why I chose to hit myself over the head with the remote control whilst watching the Blackpool game!!
She couldnt understand why I took myself into the garage on Saturday after Boro scored their second so that I could beat the crap out of a roll of carpet underlay!!
And she was certainly very upset when I happended to call my own daughter Southampton in general conversation!!!
Anyhow, back to the deep breathing exercises and listening to some dolphins!!!
One other quick point though which is a major worry of mine. Who will fill in on the right of midfield?? Could he start with both Butterfield and Richardson, with the latter sitting in front??
Signing off now: worried of Newport!!
As for women (and I'm just misquoting Basil Fawlty here, Fran and Rachel), when it comes to football, they've one brain between the lot of them. Since Boro, I've been a rubbish person to live with. She's seen it, she knows it, she's theorised about it, she's tried to comfort me through it, she's even emailed me from work about it. But she just doesn't get it.
'Is it work pressure, honey?' She asks. 'Is it tiredness?' 'Are you feeling unwell?'
'No,' I keep telling her. 'It's the football. I can't do anything about it until it's all over on Saturday.' ......
..........
'Yes, but hey! Football, football, football. Now, tell me what's REALLY up?'
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Inbetweener
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3:24pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
St.Yorkie
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3:34pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Yorkie (24/4/12).
Come on everyone chill!
Jesus_02
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3:39pm Tue 24 Apr 12
seventh-junction
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4:01pm Tue 24 Apr 12
That's more like it.
COYR
Taunton Saint
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4:06pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Strasbourg Saint
says...
4:07pm Tue 24 Apr 12
The Inbetweener wrote:You are absolutely, 100% right. In fact, (and don't tell any man this, it's bad for our egos) it's men in football who are doing most to ruin it ......... agents, greedy players, cheats, the board of the FA, bully Fergie, blind Wenger et al and, of course, the refs.
Strasbourg Saint, you do know how to add to a women's pain. As a woman, I consider myself as having quite a good knowledge of football and have been complimented on more than one occasion by different men that at last a women who knows something about football. I was at Middlesborough on Saturday to witness the defeat, I really believed that was going to be the promotion party and sat last night in hope that Leicester would beat Wet Spam.
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
I'm sure if half of all the people employed at the top level of football were women (managers, refs, agents ....... maybe players, too ...... why not?), things would be a lot better for all of us. But, please, not my beloved. Should the worst happen on Saturday (and it won't) and she says any of these:
1) It's only a game.
2) Can we open the champers now?
3) Are you having a stressful time at work?
4) It'll be alright in the end.
5) Worse things happen at sea.
6) I thought they were the ones playing in sky blue. Or:
7) You could try supporting another team. Real Madrid seem pretty good.
..... then expect to read about a usually mild-mannered Englishman going ape in Strasbourg on Saturday.
Winchester Saint
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4:15pm Tue 24 Apr 12
saint Compo wrote:According to League rules it is up to head-to-head results - Saints will no doubt going up with two head-to-head results on a away and home basis.
Does anybody know what happens if we draw 1-1 and West Ham win 3-0? We'd both have the same points, same goal difference and same goals for.
What's the next tie-breaker? The spin of a coin?
Of course, it's academic 'cos we're going to win!
COYR
Saints won 1-0 at home and then we held to a 1-1 draw at Upton Park so the home win is the one that can take us up!
The Inbetweener
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4:23pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Lol - at least my hubby is on the same wave length. Why are you not over at SMS on Saturday? Then your better half wouldn't need to suffer.
The Inbetweener wrote:You are absolutely, 100% right. In fact, (and don't tell any man this, it's bad for our egos) it's men in football who are doing most to ruin it ......... agents, greedy players, cheats, the board of the FA, bully Fergie, blind Wenger et al and, of course, the refs.
Strasbourg Saint, you do know how to add to a women's pain. As a woman, I consider myself as having quite a good knowledge of football and have been complimented on more than one occasion by different men that at last a women who knows something about football. I was at Middlesborough on Saturday to witness the defeat, I really believed that was going to be the promotion party and sat last night in hope that Leicester would beat Wet Spam.
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
I'm sure if half of all the people employed at the top level of football were women (managers, refs, agents ....... maybe players, too ...... why not?), things would be a lot better for all of us. But, please, not my beloved. Should the worst happen on Saturday (and it won't) and she says any of these:
1) It's only a game.
2) Can we open the champers now?
3) Are you having a stressful time at work?
4) It'll be alright in the end.
5) Worse things happen at sea.
6) I thought they were the ones playing in sky blue. Or:
7) You could try supporting another team. Real Madrid seem pretty good.
..... then expect to read about a usually mild-mannered Englishman going ape in Strasbourg on Saturday.
Strasbourg Saint
says...
4:40pm Tue 24 Apr 12
The Inbetweener wrote:Fair point. I last came over for the trip to Blackpool, so it's probably a good thing I'm a safe distance away.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Lol - at least my hubby is on the same wave length. Why are you not over at SMS on Saturday? Then your better half wouldn't need to suffer.
The Inbetweener wrote:You are absolutely, 100% right. In fact, (and don't tell any man this, it's bad for our egos) it's men in football who are doing most to ruin it ......... agents, greedy players, cheats, the board of the FA, bully Fergie, blind Wenger et al and, of course, the refs.
Strasbourg Saint, you do know how to add to a women's pain. As a woman, I consider myself as having quite a good knowledge of football and have been complimented on more than one occasion by different men that at last a women who knows something about football. I was at Middlesborough on Saturday to witness the defeat, I really believed that was going to be the promotion party and sat last night in hope that Leicester would beat Wet Spam.
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
I'm sure if half of all the people employed at the top level of football were women (managers, refs, agents ....... maybe players, too ...... why not?), things would be a lot better for all of us. But, please, not my beloved. Should the worst happen on Saturday (and it won't) and she says any of these:
1) It's only a game.
2) Can we open the champers now?
3) Are you having a stressful time at work?
4) It'll be alright in the end.
5) Worse things happen at sea.
6) I thought they were the ones playing in sky blue. Or:
7) You could try supporting another team. Real Madrid seem pretty good.
..... then expect to read about a usually mild-mannered Englishman going ape in Strasbourg on Saturday.
I generally plan trips for school hols so that I can collect my sons from near Reading and, if possible, fit in a match.
I'm looking forward to the new fixture list and seeing if anything is possible in late August.
Le Tissier's Nose
says...
5:24pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Well written mate. See you at St. Mary's on Saturday!
VDS
RedArmy1
says...
6:04pm Tue 24 Apr 12
RedArmy1 wrote:AMEND :
WE WILL WIN AT ST MARY'S.
WE ARE GOING UP TO THE PREMIERSHIP.
TO NIGEL AND THE TEAM.
WE DEMAND SUCCESS.
WE DEMAND THE WIN.
RED ARMY 2012.
PRISE-PASSION-HONOUR
.
RED ARMY 2012.
PRIDE-PASSION-HONOUR
WE ARE GOING TO SMASH COVENTRY.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR.
Matt Allen
says...
6:28pm Tue 24 Apr 12
I am sooooo looking forward to Saturday, I just cannot think about anything else. I've not worked all week and don't intend to - all I seem to be doing is reading about Saints!
Taunton Saint
says...
7:01pm Tue 24 Apr 12
iswhite10
says...
7:36pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Prit
says...
8:17pm Tue 24 Apr 12
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:56pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Could try supporting Barcelona they never fail do they, Oh wait...........
The Inbetweener wrote:You are absolutely, 100% right. In fact, (and don't tell any man this, it's bad for our egos) it's men in football who are doing most to ruin it ......... agents, greedy players, cheats, the board of the FA, bully Fergie, blind Wenger et al and, of course, the refs.
Strasbourg Saint, you do know how to add to a women's pain. As a woman, I consider myself as having quite a good knowledge of football and have been complimented on more than one occasion by different men that at last a women who knows something about football. I was at Middlesborough on Saturday to witness the defeat, I really believed that was going to be the promotion party and sat last night in hope that Leicester would beat Wet Spam.
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
I'm sure if half of all the people employed at the top level of football were women (managers, refs, agents ....... maybe players, too ...... why not?), things would be a lot better for all of us. But, please, not my beloved. Should the worst happen on Saturday (and it won't) and she says any of these:
1) It's only a game.
2) Can we open the champers now?
3) Are you having a stressful time at work?
4) It'll be alright in the end.
5) Worse things happen at sea.
6) I thought they were the ones playing in sky blue. Or:
7) You could try supporting another team. Real Madrid seem pretty good.
..... then expect to read about a usually mild-mannered Englishman going ape in Strasbourg on Saturday.
rob the saint in NZ
says...
10:46pm Tue 24 Apr 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Ha ha!
The Inbetweener wrote:You are absolutely, 100% right. In fact, (and don't tell any man this, it's bad for our egos) it's men in football who are doing most to ruin it ......... agents, greedy players, cheats, the board of the FA, bully Fergie, blind Wenger et al and, of course, the refs.
Strasbourg Saint, you do know how to add to a women's pain. As a woman, I consider myself as having quite a good knowledge of football and have been complimented on more than one occasion by different men that at last a women who knows something about football. I was at Middlesborough on Saturday to witness the defeat, I really believed that was going to be the promotion party and sat last night in hope that Leicester would beat Wet Spam.
Remember it was a man on Saturday who did not have the b***s to make the biggest decision of the game and produce the second yellow card when Adam was fouled.
Like you, I have not been able to settle or think of anythingelse this week and just want Saturday to come so we can secure the victory we need and take our place back in the Premiership.
Does anybodyelse agree with me that trying to secure the automatic promotion spot is far more stressful than many years of having to win on the last day to avoid relegation - but we did have Le God in our side in those days.
COYRS
I'm sure if half of all the people employed at the top level of football were women (managers, refs, agents ....... maybe players, too ...... why not?), things would be a lot better for all of us. But, please, not my beloved. Should the worst happen on Saturday (and it won't) and she says any of these:
1) It's only a game.
2) Can we open the champers now?
3) Are you having a stressful time at work?
4) It'll be alright in the end.
5) Worse things happen at sea.
6) I thought they were the ones playing in sky blue. Or:
7) You could try supporting another team. Real Madrid seem pretty good.
..... then expect to read about a usually mild-mannered Englishman going ape in Strasbourg on Saturday.
I know exactly where you're coming from, Strassie!
My other half says Saints must win purely & simply because "You will be unbearable to live with otherwise"!
(She's quite right by the way, as a woman always is).
Northam Girl
says...
11:47am Thu 26 Apr 12
allmove4ward2geva
says...
2:32pm Thu 26 Apr 12
Jesus_02 wrote:on it
Can I just urge and British Gas employees that are supposed to work on Saturday....go to the pub and watch the match

randre says...
12:29pm Tue 24 Apr 12
I am REALLY looking forward to Saturday, I can't concentrate on my work!!