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How would Nigel Adkins use potential signing Jay Rodriguez?
10:47am Thursday 31st May 2012 in Adam Leitch
By Adam Leitch, Chief Sports Writer
Jay Rodriguez
Saints may see Jay Rodriguez as a long term replacement for Rickie Lambert.
The club are prepared to smash their transfer record to spend £7m on bringing the 22-year-old striker from Burnley, and therefore view him as a long term investment for the club.
A few fans have raised eyebrows at Nigel Adkins spending such a large amount of money on another player who is untried at Premier League level ...
... when, on the face of it, Saints appear to have plenty of strikers who have proved themselves in the Championship but have yet to grace the top flight.
However, Saints have a long term plan and part of that is to recruit hungry, young British players who are desperate to prove themselves.
From a financial sense, players such as Rodriguez are always likely to have a good resale value, commanding probably double their £7m initial investment if he is an instant hit and some bigger clubs take notice.
But he would still have a reasonable resale fee even if he doesn’t cut it because of his age and his record in the second tier at Burnley.
In that way it makes some sense financially, even if some argue that a 30-year-old who commands £7m in wages over a few years but who you know can score goals in the Premier League might be a better investment, given Saints’ squad.
But Saints must have an eye on eventually replacing Lambert and, in Rodriguez, they have are hoping to sign a player who could one day take over their talisman’s mantle.
That is not to say the pair can’t, and won’t, be able to play together, they very much will.
And the fact they both have a strong physical presence offers Saints the chance to play direct and, more importantly, get crosses into the box.
In the Premier League they are unlikely to out-pass lots of sides as they could in the Championship and League One, so it’s as good a tactic as any.
As fantastic as Lambert has been, and hopefully will continue to be for at least another few years, he is now 30 and no player goes on forever.
Saints have to be mindful of that and, in signing a 6ft 1in target man type who can also score plenty of goals, they are surely buying themselves a future line leader.
They are also buying the kind of insurance that they were remiss not to get last summer.
Lambert has a remarkable fitnes and disciplinary record, and it’s just as well for Saints as they rely so heavily on his presence.
He is the talisman for the team, not only because of his goals but because he is vital for the way they play.
Without him, they have lacked ideas.
They could not afford to go another season relying on Lambert being fit.
In Rodriguez, they could finally have someone who can slot straight into that mould, meaning that if the main man is out they don’t need to consider changing formation, style and personnel just for that reason.
As to where it leaves some of Saints’ other strikers, is an interesting question.
Will Adkins be aiming to start Lambert and Rodriguez, two fairly similar types of striker, together?
Or will he want to use one of them alongside Billy Sharp or Tadanari Lee?
If Saints do complete the Rodriguez signing, they are suddenly blessed with six first team strikers in the shape of the new man, Lambert, Sharp, Lee, Guly do Prado and Lee Barnard.
And that’s before you take into account forgotten man Jonathan Forte, who was signed as first team striker, and youngster Sam Hoskins, who is trying to break through.
That is surely too many, given the 25-man squad rules.
Hoskins would be exempt but to think that seven of the 25 will be strikers is surely too top heavy.
So will we see some depart?
Surely not Sharp and Lee who have just joined, or, obviously, Lambert or Rodriguez.
Do Prado is not likely to go as he also challenges for a place on the right of midfield with the striking department filling up.
That leaves Forte and Barnard, two bit-part players in 2011/12, as the most vulnerable.
It will be fascinating to see if Saints try and cash in or loan them out.
One thing is for sure and that’s that in the Premier League you need goals to survive.
Saints are making sure they are not short on numbers in the striking department.
Comments(131)
BlandfordSaint
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11:00am Thu 31 May 12
franiow
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11:12am Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan
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11:13am Thu 31 May 12
He gives up many different outlets. He has height and pace to play upfront.
He can also create goals. Therefore is an insurance plan if we cant bring in a good right mid.
Am looking forward to him putting pen to paper.
Saint_ bezzer
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11:14am Thu 31 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:15am Thu 31 May 12
'Ignore the Blackburn "fans", they're doing absolutely everything they can to try and distract themselves from the fact that they are an national laughing stock, granted all it does is make them look pathetic but when you're a Rovers fan pathetic is actually a step up from ground state.
Jay is a top class player, he's not a goal poacher, or a target man he's a technically gifted, athletic, intelligent, creative all round attacker. On top of that he's a hard working, model pro. I honestly believe he is a potential England international - and the last Burnley player I said that about was Gary Cahill.
The only question mark I'd have is that he's only really played week in week out at one club and it may take him a while to settle in because it's a big distance to move on top of stepping up a division, hopefully Jack Cork and Danny Fox would help with that.'
Hobson82
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11:34am Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan
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11:38am Thu 31 May 12
You have to remember that mainly he is a striker an out and out goal scorer. He will only play on the right if we don't sign a right mid. ( i imagine we will )
People are also Forgetting about STEVE on the right. for an impact sub.
Ageas SFC
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11:50am Thu 31 May 12
As for Guly he is one of the worst players yet still managed to score 16 goals due to luck. Can't see him being prolific in the prem what so ever. I feel Rodriguez is a good replacement for wide right.
Hobson82
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11:53am Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan wrote:Agree with you on that one, whenever I saw Guly last season, he's better up front rather than out wide. Having said that I thought he was outstanding on the right against Coventry.
No disrespect to Guly. However he cant play on the right. he plays well when hes up top Normally when he plays right he's poor. You have to remember that mainly he is a striker an out and out goal scorer. He will only play on the right if we don't sign a right mid. ( i imagine we will ) People are also Forgetting about STEVE on the right. for an impact sub.
Saints+Wigan fan
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11:58am Thu 31 May 12
However second half he really picked up his game started putting effort in.
He still has a valid part to play a small part but a valid part.
and Ageas SFC. Steve is an impact. sub. admittedly can be replaced by better. however we don't have better in the right wing position atm. we have no one with pace. ( however he can cross a ball ) i.e Cardiff at home.
flashhart2000
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12:03pm Thu 31 May 12
As long as St.Rickie keeps taking the pens. :)
Jay Rod is the future and I hope we finish second this season as well!
We have a very hungry club and they will do us very proud.
I think with the intelligent strenghening we are doing there is some very interesting times ahead. Maybe even a few real shock results.
Ageas SFC
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12:03pm Thu 31 May 12
As for STEVE (saints+Wigan) how can you say his cross is good, he has a moderate amount of pace, but when has he ever used that pace to run at a player. And im sorry i cannot agree with you, his cross is about as useful as Stuart Downings right foot.
saintmicky
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12:07pm Thu 31 May 12
SFC_WILL
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12:12pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan
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12:15pm Thu 31 May 12
Guly will be brought on when we need to slow a game down. i.e when we are 2-0 up at home against QPR.
i However do think your are being harsh on Steve. He has an impact when he comes on he picks the pace up of a game. Admittedly he can easily be replaced by a better player ( a phillips or an ince ) however they would both start. if we get them we need an impact sub at times and STEVE is our man.
Back to jay i believe he would start week in week out if he joins with lee and sharp on the bench
Lee being another one of the impact players if we need a goal.
Saints+Wigan fan
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12:17pm Thu 31 May 12
King o' the Kingsland
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12:23pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan wrote:Sorry mate I can;t agree with much of this. Guly was far more effective in the first half of the season than the second. This was when he played up front, after Connolly got injured and Chaplow moved in on the right of midfield.
I agree he was against Cov. but that was a one game. GULY the first half of the season was poor. he didn't look like he wanted to play. However second half he really picked up his game started putting effort in. He still has a valid part to play a small part but a valid part. and Ageas SFC. Steve is an impact. sub. admittedly can be replaced by better. however we don't have better in the right wing position atm. we have no one with pace. ( however he can cross a ball ) i.e Cardiff at home.
And while I quite like Steve, his cross success rate must be about 5%!
However I feel both will have a role to play next season. Guly's unpredictability could be a useful tool next season, and Steve's pace in the final 20 minutes of games too
Saints+Wigan fan
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12:31pm Thu 31 May 12
The only thing that worries me is that he was good in league one. ( when we had him on loan ) but last year in a higher Div, he wasn't as good. is it further downhill in the prem ?? I hope not.
And i agree with you King when it comes to Steve. i would never play him for more than 20 mins in a game. i would be happier though if we did get a better impact sub.
I have also herd that Kelvin Davies has been told he is 2nd choice GK next year..
Who does this mean is number 1?
Ageas SFC
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12:33pm Thu 31 May 12
SFC_WILL
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12:33pm Thu 31 May 12
franiow
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12:34pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC
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12:37pm Thu 31 May 12
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
King o' the Kingsland
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12:38pm Thu 31 May 12
Either way I'd like to see Ince playing there next season
St.henley
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12:39pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan
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12:46pm Thu 31 May 12
Great comment btw king Completely agree.
Peter Whittingham would be a great signing.
Saintjock
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12:48pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:Saw all home games and a fair few away ones and Guly was very good first half of the season and couldn't be dropped through form - NA knew how good he was for the team. Got injured and had to wait his turn to get back in and because he was being played in different positions didn't get back his early from. De Ridder is poor - no end-product, no work rate, no future in the prem. Guly will love the prem.
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
BracknellSaint
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12:59pm Thu 31 May 12
King o' the Kingsland wrote:I haven't seen enough of him for sure, but whenever I have, Steve seems to have alot of pace, and I'm surprised someone above said his touch is poor-whenever I watch him, he seems to be the only one apart from Adam who can dribble it, keep it close/do the little turns etc. until he can get an 'out'.
The thing with Steve is that while he rarely delivers much himself, his pace means the opposition defence have to adjust to prevent him getting in behind. This frees up space for Lallana on the left, who at times last season was crowded out of games because opponents were happy to stick 3 players on him. They couldn't afford to do this when the right winger was pacey.
Either way I'd like to see Ince playing there next season
Have I just happened to see a few moments, when he's actually a donkey most of the time? I always liked it when he came on, as felt he had the 'potential' to do a trick and beat a man? OK, it might not come off as much as it should, but I prefer players like that to the old fashioned 'kick it down the line and try and outrun the full back' tactic, which almost never works.
oldsaintsfan
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1:12pm Thu 31 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Yes from what I have heard (from an old friend who gets to quite a few Burnley matches) JR is the real deal. Plenty of ability. Hopefully he has the confidence to make the step up to the PL.
I asked Burnley fans opinion on JR on their forum. I finally got an answer once I'd waded through the Blackburn fans answers! If anyone thinks this site can get silly or too much bitter rivalry you really really need to visit the site, it's all out war and makes us look like a bunch of soft southern shandy drinkers... anyway:
'Ignore the Blackburn "fans", they're doing absolutely everything they can to try and distract themselves from the fact that they are an national laughing stock, granted all it does is make them look pathetic but when you're a Rovers fan pathetic is actually a step up from ground state.
Jay is a top class player, he's not a goal poacher, or a target man he's a technically gifted, athletic, intelligent, creative all round attacker. On top of that he's a hard working, model pro. I honestly believe he is a potential England international - and the last Burnley player I said that about was Gary Cahill.
The only question mark I'd have is that he's only really played week in week out at one club and it may take him a while to settle in because it's a big distance to move on top of stepping up a division, hopefully Jack Cork and Danny Fox would help with that.'
business-guru
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1:16pm Thu 31 May 12
hedge end bob
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1:21pm Thu 31 May 12
BlandfordSaint wrote:How can you say great post about an article that's not even true yet? Their trying to sell papers to the few that hang on to their every word. Hope you wont be disappointed.
Great post well done the echo. reckon Jay will play wide right if we do not get an Ince or Phillips - coming in at the back post as Adam and Fox whip those balls in the area - Come on you Saints
I will wait for Nicola to set the headlines.
worried of n e hampshire
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1:26pm Thu 31 May 12
worried of n e hampshire
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1:27pm Thu 31 May 12
jase71
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1:35pm Thu 31 May 12
worried of n e hampshire wrote:Almost had a heart attack then
Paul Lamvert the Norwich Manager that is!!!
Mush On The Beach
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1:37pm Thu 31 May 12
worried of n e hampshire wrote:Nice one.
Paul Lamvert the Norwich Manager that is!!!
The current smell of management instability at Norwich and Swansea will do us no harm next season.
I heard Dirk Kuyt was spotted outside St Marys, or was it at Southampton airport. Pass it on
Saints+Wigan fan
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1:38pm Thu 31 May 12
Good old Martinez is staying Thank god.
Alicesdad
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1:39pm Thu 31 May 12
Alicesdad
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1:41pm Thu 31 May 12
Jesus_02
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1:44pm Thu 31 May 12
Steve has raw potential but little else. It would be nice if he suddenly turned into Frank Ribery but I cant see it myself
Alicesdad
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1:46pm Thu 31 May 12
Maybe by the time I next log on, we'll have another keeper on the books and a couple of world class defenders and midfielders ... or do we have that already ? It's only been a few weeks but I'm starting to forget already !! ;-)
Saints+Wigan fan
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1:51pm Thu 31 May 12
Then we are looking for a first team GK,
This would rule out the likes of
ALEX SMITHIES- HUDDERSFIELD
JASON STEEL -
BORO
We would have to look along the lines of Paul Robinson, Craig Gordon, or even look at spending more and go for the Wigan GK or vorm from Swansea ?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:55pm Thu 31 May 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Yes but will that be us in a year or two? We've all said that Norwich and Swansea should be our 'blue print' acknowledging their successful arrival in the top flight. How are they supposed to continue with their carefully laid plans if their managers get nicked?
worried of n e hampshire wrote:Nice one.
Paul Lamvert the Norwich Manager that is!!!
The current smell of management instability at Norwich and Swansea will do us no harm next season.
I heard Dirk Kuyt was spotted outside St Marys, or was it at Southampton airport. Pass it on
Some associated Nigel with Liverpool which was daft as he's not proven enough yet. But a couple of good years in the Prem and he could well be in theirs or others sights next time they sack their manager.
RedArmy1
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1:56pm Thu 31 May 12
As well as Rickie - the whole TEAM provided opportunities for Richard Chaplow who squandered chances to add to the goal tally.
Those chances couldn't be buried by Steeeeeeeeeeeeeve as he plays out wide ...
Who can deliver in front of goal ... ?? That's the question !!
ADAM - YES BILLY - YES
GULY - YES JOS - YES
You also need some-one like Jrod to bury these chances.
Doesn't matter about playing in the Premiership - against any team THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON will create chances.
Personally, I would have liked Hooper to be signed up - I would like an England rated Goal Keeper - another RB - another CB to challenge Jose (who struggled at times in the Championship) - and a goal scoring midfielder.
I like the Young Winger - Tom Ince ... but Southampton FC cannot just squander its money
and then be like everton - stuck without finance and unable to progress.
On a different subject fergie was recently boastful about manure supporters ...
YES - there are lots of plastic and cardboard cut-out manure supporters out there ...
WE ARE RED ARMY and fergie is going to get a wretched time at
ST MARY'S.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED ARMY 2012. FIGHT AND WIN. WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR.
Alicesdad
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1:56pm Thu 31 May 12
Jesus_02 wrote:Simple post but spot on !
The fact that people slag Guly off and praise DeRidder is basically based on tye fact that Steve runs about a lot and Guly doesnt! Madness.. neither are great but personally i think that Guly will prove to have more impact in the Prem.
Steve has raw potential but little else. It would be nice if he suddenly turned into Frank Ribery but I cant see it myself
Guly is a premiership player, I think he will do well as I reckon he will shine against the very biggest clubs.
De Ridder is good but the team doesn't play tactically to suit his style.
dopplershift
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2:04pm Thu 31 May 12
NikkkoNik
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2:04pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan wrote:Nonsense, I remember a different Guly and Saints at the beginning of last season. We had Conerman and Sir Rickola upfront with the Gooley on the right, Lallaman on the left. There was great movement and we were scoring from all angles, which we changed it for two reasons. One Connerman became injury prone and teams started to watch the videos. Oh and we we unbeaten at home for a year.
I agree he was against Cov. but that was a one game. GULY the first half of the season was poor. he didn't look like he wanted to play.
However second half he really picked up his game started putting effort in.
He still has a valid part to play a small part but a valid part.
and Ageas SFC. Steve is an impact. sub. admittedly can be replaced by better. however we don't have better in the right wing position atm. we have no one with pace. ( however he can cross a ball ) i.e Cardiff at home.
Ciaran
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2:10pm Thu 31 May 12
hedge end bob wrote:Then go and read the OS and leave the rest of us alone.
BlandfordSaint wrote:How can you say great post about an article that's not even true yet? Their trying to sell papers to the few that hang on to their every word. Hope you wont be disappointed.
Great post well done the echo. reckon Jay will play wide right if we do not get an Ince or Phillips - coming in at the back post as Adam and Fox whip those balls in the area - Come on you Saints
I will wait for Nicola to set the headlines.
You always moan about the Echo so why bother logging on here if all you want to hear is what NC wants to you hear?
dopplershift
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2:12pm Thu 31 May 12
Alicesdad wrote:Spot on. I'll be surprised if Steve plays any more than 90 mins in a whole season. Whereas Guly will play more often than not and deserves it for his contributions that got us to the Prem.
Jesus_02 wrote: The fact that people slag Guly off and praise DeRidder is basically based on tye fact that Steve runs about a lot and Guly doesnt! Madness.. neither are great but personally i think that Guly will prove to have more impact in the Prem. Steve has raw potential but little else. It would be nice if he suddenly turned into Frank Ribery but I cant see it myselfSimple post but spot on ! Guly is a premiership player, I think he will do well as I reckon he will shine against the very biggest clubs. De Ridder is good but the team doesn't play tactically to suit his style.
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However, I can see it now 1-0 down to chelsea at the bridge and steves come on looking fresh. Whilst a minority of saints fans are complaining that prem footie is too expensive in the flesh and saints haven't mustered a shot on target in the whole game he picks the ball up on the touchline and adkins whispers something to him from the dugout. He speeds down the wing cuts in does 2 defenders before releasing one of his trademark no nonsense shots that almost breaks the net and takes the stand with it. Everyone then loves steve and he's a hero for at least 3 mins yayy!! (that was based almost entirely on the Reading away game)
Ageas SFC
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2:12pm Thu 31 May 12
What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
Saints+Wigan fan
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2:14pm Thu 31 May 12
As iv said before in previous posts iv said guly has a part to play in the prem. i don't think its a big role. ( i.e '' to come on and slow the game down when we are 2-0 up at home to QPR '')
HES ALWAYS OFFSIDE, HES ALWAYS OFFSSIIIDDEEE!
Ageas SFC
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2:17pm Thu 31 May 12
More to the point what about the shockingness of Danny Butterfield?
dopplershift
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2:20pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:Agree. Has one good game in four which isn't prem standard. Squad player. Frazer Richardson is a better right back in my opinion. His crosses contributed to quite a few goals. But even he is only a squad player for the prem. Right back addition is a must!
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ... What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
Ageas SFC
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2:24pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan
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2:25pm Thu 31 May 12
NikkkoNik
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2:26pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints+Wigan fan wrote:I do not disagree, he does frustrate and not sure if he will make it in the PL. he does try and play the right ball and keeps his head up and in some games defended well.
We where unbeaten for a year because of José and hooveild being tanks.
As iv said before in previous posts iv said guly has a part to play in the prem. i don't think its a big role. ( i.e '' to come on and slow the game down when we are 2-0 up at home to QPR '')
HES ALWAYS OFFSIDE, HES ALWAYS OFFSSIIIDDEEE!
Buttercup, well I cannot work this one out. He always looks limited, not a great defender goes forward with reluctance and plays the percentage game. NA must see something different, I think he will be eaten alive in the PL.
Mush On The Beach
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2:29pm Thu 31 May 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:More than likely, if you look at our management turnover since the stability eras of Sir Ted, Lawrie Mac and Big Chris Nicholl. We have found numerous ways to lose manager more recently, some of them bizarre.
Mush On The Beach wrote:Yes but will that be us in a year or two? We've all said that Norwich and Swansea should be our 'blue print' acknowledging their successful arrival in the top flight. How are they supposed to continue with their carefully laid plans if their managers get nicked?
worried of n e hampshire wrote:Nice one.
Paul Lamvert the Norwich Manager that is!!!
The current smell of management instability at Norwich and Swansea will do us no harm next season.
I heard Dirk Kuyt was spotted outside St Marys, or was it at Southampton airport. Pass it on
Some associated Nigel with Liverpool which was daft as he's not proven enough yet. But a couple of good years in the Prem and he could well be in theirs or others sights next time they sack their manager.
I hope Nigel’s eventual departure will be for a career progression on the back of putting us gloriously back on track as an established to 10 Prem team. The show will always go on.
But I believe we have to stay in the present and look for chinks in our current rival’s armour
Ageas SFC
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2:29pm Thu 31 May 12
saintkenny
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2:30pm Thu 31 May 12
dopplershift wrote:and a left back .otherwise with fox ,players will have a picnic as jimmy kebe showed in the reading game ,allowed 2 hours to cross the ball for jason to score .how fans blame fonte is a joke .in the westham game out of position caused a penalty .we had more problems at left back next season ,curtis davis maybe the player for .maybe you can use fox in midfield because of his delivery .but sorry as a left back he do not cut it for me
Ageas SFC wrote:Agree. Has one good game in four which isn't prem standard. Squad player. Frazer Richardson is a better right back in my opinion. His crosses contributed to quite a few goals. But even he is only a squad player for the prem. Right back addition is a must!
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ... What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
Saints+Wigan fan
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2:33pm Thu 31 May 12
He is a great sub LB.
Fox is very good going foward. However not the best going back.
People like Nani will '' tear him a new one''
Ageas SFC
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2:35pm Thu 31 May 12
oh when the saints go marching in!!
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2:37pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC
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2:37pm Thu 31 May 12
Such a rediculous thought that dan harding is a good player.
insane saint
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2:52pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:since when? who produced in the last few weeks. ok not alot of pace but he can cross and how many assists did he get in the last 6 or 7 games. there were quite a few so get of his back. my opion and if you are not trying to wind everyone up i feel you have a dodgy opinion of football in general or have never played football yourself.
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ...
What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
LETS GET READY FOR THE PREM AND WHICH EVER PLAYERS ARE WITH US, GIVE THEM 150% AS FANS AND THEY WILL GIVE IT BACK TO US IN DROVES.
SO COME ON STAY UNITED AND TOGETHER AS ONE.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH.
COYR
insane saint
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2:54pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:wum i think.
No Dan Harding is the worst, he doesn't even merit a place in the saints squad let alone be cover for LB.
Such a rediculous thought that dan harding is a good player.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:11pm Thu 31 May 12
insane saint wrote:He hasn't said Rickies rubbish yet, but I do feel it's coming....
Ageas SFC wrote:wum i think.
No Dan Harding is the worst, he doesn't even merit a place in the saints squad let alone be cover for LB.
Such a rediculous thought that dan harding is a good player.
dopplershift
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3:11pm Thu 31 May 12
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Watching those guys defend takes me back to the Richard Dryden era which in all honesty gives me the creeps!
saintkenny
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3:14pm Thu 31 May 12
insane saint wrote:put any money he is a albion fan.they think hammond is crap as well ,clueless if you ask me .maybe it could be down to the fact they have only ever witnessed 3 years top flight football ,so they do not have the knowledge like there south coast counterparts .but being in the same league inspired them .but they just could not keep up with us .before the season started they will be above us .later we will slip down to the playoffs .they will win in the final at wembley .where are they now .think they were dreaming a bit .but you cannot blame them after withdean ,but you can see what we have achieved as give them hope .might inspire gus to take brighton where we are .they probably have a lot to thank us for .i wish them luck
Ageas SFC wrote:wum i think.
No Dan Harding is the worst, he doesn't even merit a place in the saints squad let alone be cover for LB.
Such a rediculous thought that dan harding is a good player.
Saints+Wigan fan
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3:25pm Thu 31 May 12
just a Negative one.
Southampton best team in the south now. next time i go to Gun Warf i will be giving the skates grief that we are the best team in the south.
Rather than the last 7 years of pain with them saying there the best.
COYR STAND PROUD!
Red n White
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3:33pm Thu 31 May 12
dopplershift wrote:How can you say Seabourne won't cut it, he was class at the start of the season before the injury. If he can get back to that standard then there's definitely a place for him (it's up to NA to decide if he has recovered). Not sure about the logic of getting rid of three out of four full-backs, I'd keep Richardson and Harding, as both are decent, but would like Clyne to join from Palace as he has potential and pace.
Butterfield. Seabourne, Richardson and Harding all not good enough for PREM footie. Whilst good hard working individuals who pull on their shirt and play to their best they can't be allowed near the pitch when playing some of the best teams/players in the world. Fans have to accept players come and go and serve a purpose. Their purpose was to get saints moving up the leagues. They were paid handsomely for that as it was their job. They reached their peak and now they must either play bench warming exercises or find another club to benefit from their ability. . Watching those guys defend takes me back to the Richard Dryden era which in all honesty gives me the creeps!
People said Lambert wouldn't cut it in the Championship and where are they now? I reckon whoever NA says is good enough, is good enough.
Ageas SFC
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3:34pm Thu 31 May 12
Saints are easily the best team in the south, always have been and always will be!!
ShakeyWiffles
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3:38pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:Excuse me? I went to EVERY SINGLE GAME last season and I believe you are talking absolute rubbish. Guly is a player that divides the fan base - end of. You think he's poor, I don't. Simple
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
ShakeyWiffles
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3:43pm Thu 31 May 12
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Is there a player in the squad you actually like?
Ageas SFC wrote:Excuse me? I went to EVERY SINGLE GAME last season and I believe you are talking absolute rubbish. Guly is a player that divides the fan base - end of. You think he's poor, I don't. Simple
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:44pm Thu 31 May 12
dopplershift wrote:These are the decisions are Chairman, Director of Football and Manager are making right now. I have faith that they will do the best possible within our budget.
Butterfield. Seabourne, Richardson and Harding all not good enough for PREM footie. Whilst good hard working individuals who pull on their shirt and play to their best they can't be allowed near the pitch when playing some of the best teams/players in the world. Fans have to accept players come and go and serve a purpose. Their purpose was to get saints moving up the leagues. They were paid handsomely for that as it was their job. They reached their peak and now they must either play bench warming exercises or find another club to benefit from their ability.
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Watching those guys defend takes me back to the Richard Dryden era which in all honesty gives me the creeps!
ShakeyWiffles
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3:46pm Thu 31 May 12
Alicesdad wrote:Agree with everything here! Plus where Guly is massive it seems like he's putting in less effort which I don't believe he is all the time. If he can see he wont reach the ball he gives up and saves what energy would've been wasted only for him to miss out. He's not lazy like some say at all. My answer for calling him lazy is "well you do it yourself then!" That soon seems to shut them up
Jesus_02 wrote:Simple post but spot on !
The fact that people slag Guly off and praise DeRidder is basically based on tye fact that Steve runs about a lot and Guly doesnt! Madness.. neither are great but personally i think that Guly will prove to have more impact in the Prem.
Steve has raw potential but little else. It would be nice if he suddenly turned into Frank Ribery but I cant see it myself
Guly is a premiership player, I think he will do well as I reckon he will shine against the very biggest clubs.
De Ridder is good but the team doesn't play tactically to suit his style.
Ageas SFC
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3:59pm Thu 31 May 12
Kelvin
Jos hooiveld
Jose Fonte
Dan Seebourne
Aaron Martin
Morgan Schneiderlin
Dean Hammond
Jack Cork
Jason Puncheon
Adam Lallana
Danny Fox
Frazier Richardson
Rickie Lambert
Taddy Lee
Billy Sharp
Richard Chaplow
Lee Barnard
I just dont think that Butterfield, harding, guly or steve are good enough to cut it at prem level.
Mush On The Beach
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4:01pm Thu 31 May 12
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Chill out Ageas fella, Worried of NE Hampshire is there in a professional capacity to do our worrying.
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Is there a player in the squad you actually like?
Ageas SFC wrote:Excuse me? I went to EVERY SINGLE GAME last season and I believe you are talking absolute rubbish. Guly is a player that divides the fan base - end of. You think he's poor, I don't. Simple
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
I feel a song coming on, take it or leave it, but I fear developing haemorrhoids is imminently coming your way if you ignore it.
You've got to accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
And latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mister In-Between.
You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
Bring gloom down to the minimum,
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene
saintkenny
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4:02pm Thu 31 May 12
om/watch?v=2lOyp9bCT
ac&feature=share
allmove4ward2geva
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4:14pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:16 goals due to luck? Are you for real??
Steve is terrible, he has a useless touch, he's weak and his final delivery is very poor. We have much better already who we could bring on as an impact sub. As for Guly he is one of the worst players yet still managed to score 16 goals due to luck. Can't see him being prolific in the prem what so ever. I feel Rodriguez is a good replacement for wide right.
saintkenny
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4:20pm Thu 31 May 12
allmove4ward2geva wrote:for me guly is fine at home .when we controlled the game ,away im not so sure ,you could say the same about fox as well .were going to have to be a lot better when we have not got the ball .for me to let chaplow leave you would have to question that decision unless we buy another box to box player .otherwise for me it makes no sense what so ever
Ageas SFC wrote:16 goals due to luck? Are you for real??
Steve is terrible, he has a useless touch, he's weak and his final delivery is very poor. We have much better already who we could bring on as an impact sub. As for Guly he is one of the worst players yet still managed to score 16 goals due to luck. Can't see him being prolific in the prem what so ever. I feel Rodriguez is a good replacement for wide right.
Ageas SFC
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4:30pm Thu 31 May 12
SFCOLDBOY
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4:36pm Thu 31 May 12
insane saint wrote:Insane Saint,
Ageas SFC wrote:since when? who produced in the last few weeks. ok not alot of pace but he can cross and how many assists did he get in the last 6 or 7 games. there were quite a few so get of his back. my opion and if you are not trying to wind everyone up i feel you have a dodgy opinion of football in general or have never played football yourself.
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ...
What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
LETS GET READY FOR THE PREM AND WHICH EVER PLAYERS ARE WITH US, GIVE THEM 150% AS FANS AND THEY WILL GIVE IT BACK TO US IN DROVES.
SO COME ON STAY UNITED AND TOGETHER AS ONE.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH.
COYR
You just beat me with your wise reply to Ageas SFC, someone who seems to have little knowledge of football and probably seen very few Saints games.
Dan Butterfield was more than competant in the last matches home and away. He filled in excelently when Richardson was injured.
As for his views of Dan Harding, he was probably the best player alongside Rickkie in our promotion from Div 1.
Dan Fox took his position last season,many of the goals we conceded were created from the left back position.
Harding was brilliant at Brighton, he ran them ragged so much so that their players where diving every time they got near him , trying to get him sent off.The Saints supporters were gutted.
Adkins had to take him off to put Fox on, because of this.
They managed to get Rickie sent off not long after.
Whether any of the Dan,s will be able to do it in the prem remains to be seen.They all deserve the chance to try.
COYR.
slugger
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4:37pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC
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4:40pm Thu 31 May 12
dopplershift
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4:40pm Thu 31 May 12
Red n White wrote:The logic behind getting rid of three is that you replace them! I love what those (and all the players) have done for us over the last couple of seasons but there's a point where you can't hold on to sentiment. It's a delicate situation because we have a great setup with an amazing unit however we need strong and talented defenders. We've got amazing attacking prowess but our defence will be like and open wound week in week out next season if we're not careful. I'm not being negative but just realistic.
dopplershift wrote: Butterfield. Seabourne, Richardson and Harding all not good enough for PREM footie. Whilst good hard working individuals who pull on their shirt and play to their best they can't be allowed near the pitch when playing some of the best teams/players in the world. Fans have to accept players come and go and serve a purpose. Their purpose was to get saints moving up the leagues. They were paid handsomely for that as it was their job. They reached their peak and now they must either play bench warming exercises or find another club to benefit from their ability. . Watching those guys defend takes me back to the Richard Dryden era which in all honesty gives me the creeps!How can you say Seabourne won't cut it, he was class at the start of the season before the injury. If he can get back to that standard then there's definitely a place for him (it's up to NA to decide if he has recovered). Not sure about the logic of getting rid of three out of four full-backs, I'd keep Richardson and Harding, as both are decent, but would like Clyne to join from Palace as he has potential and pace. People said Lambert wouldn't cut it in the Championship and where are they now? I reckon whoever NA says is good enough, is good enough.
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I'll be honest and remove Seabourne from my list as I only saw him a couple of times before his absence.
RG8 to the SMS
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4:41pm Thu 31 May 12
Alicesdad wrote:De Ridder has the pace for the Prem and personaly I think that Guly thinks too fast for his fellow team-mates (eg. he sometimes knocks the ball into space that no one is actually in, as is the Brazilian way).
Jesus_02 wrote: The fact that people slag Guly off and praise DeRidder is basically based on tye fact that Steve runs about a lot and Guly doesnt! Madness.. neither are great but personally i think that Guly will prove to have more impact in the Prem. Steve has raw potential but little else. It would be nice if he suddenly turned into Frank Ribery but I cant see it myselfSimple post but spot on ! Guly is a premiership player, I think he will do well as I reckon he will shine against the very biggest clubs. De Ridder is good but the team doesn't play tactically to suit his style.
Both these players could come off the bench together and combine, the goal at Reading springs to mind.
SFCOLDBOY
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4:50pm Thu 31 May 12
slugger wrote:Good shout.
this site smells a bit fishy today , a few people spouting claptrap who don't watch the saints at all (imo).
willygetaway
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4:54pm Thu 31 May 12
Whats your thoughts guys ?
allmove4ward2geva
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4:57pm Thu 31 May 12
allmove4ward2geva
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4:58pm Thu 31 May 12
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
Big Rick wannabe
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5:00pm Thu 31 May 12
willygetaway
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5:05pm Thu 31 May 12
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
joelster
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5:14pm Thu 31 May 12
slugger
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5:21pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:what makes you think i was talking about you ?
In response to that, who's fault was it for both late pompey goals when adkins brought him on for some solidarity ... Dan Harding. And i'v been to enough saints games to back my views of those players. Free world im entitled to my opinion.
Saintsfc1994
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5:26pm Thu 31 May 12
JohnItaly
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5:35pm Thu 31 May 12
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
slugger
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5:40pm Thu 31 May 12
JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
Confucious
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6:08pm Thu 31 May 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Spot on. I always used to sing that song at the British Haemorrhoids Association Annual Conference - and I got a standing ovation every time.
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Chill out Ageas fella, Worried of NE Hampshire is there in a professional capacity to do our worrying.
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Is there a player in the squad you actually like?
Ageas SFC wrote:Excuse me? I went to EVERY SINGLE GAME last season and I believe you are talking absolute rubbish. Guly is a player that divides the fan base - end of. You think he's poor, I don't. Simple
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
I feel a song coming on, take it or leave it, but I fear developing haemorrhoids is imminently coming your way if you ignore it.
You've got to accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
And latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mister In-Between.
You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
Bring gloom down to the minimum,
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene
JohnItaly
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6:31pm Thu 31 May 12
slugger wrote:With the crop of youngsters coming through and assuming Saints establish themselves in the Premiership and we can hang onto them it would be disappointing if in say 3/4 years a Saint isn't in the England squad.
JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
insane saint
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6:55pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:ok ok ok but where were you or where have you been for the past few seasons?????
In response to that, who's fault was it for both late pompey goals when adkins brought him on for some solidarity ... Dan Harding. And i'v been to enough saints games to back my views of those players. Free world im entitled to my opinion.
all these dare i say plastic fans appear as we get to the prem sorry if i have caused a problem for you i think you have never played football and it was not hardings fault about the two late goals 1 was guly's ducking out of a header and the other was a lucky strike so where is the blame still fox always got caught out. just watch the 1st reading goal again and that is what has happend on a lot of occations last season. harding is by a long chalk a better player he can do more than fox in attack and defence. yes fox does deleiver a good ball but needs 4 to 5 attemps to get it right first. tell me also how many goals did fox get oh yes zero have a look and see how many harding got. now think about your post above and respond if you dare.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON AND WE STAND AS ONE.
COYR
worried of n e hampshire
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6:59pm Thu 31 May 12
Confucious wrote:thanks Mush
Mush On The Beach wrote:Spot on. I always used to sing that song at the British Haemorrhoids Association Annual Conference - and I got a standing ovation every time.
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Chill out Ageas fella, Worried of NE Hampshire is there in a professional capacity to do our worrying.
ShakeyWiffles wrote:Is there a player in the squad you actually like?
Ageas SFC wrote:Excuse me? I went to EVERY SINGLE GAME last season and I believe you are talking absolute rubbish. Guly is a player that divides the fan base - end of. You think he's poor, I don't. Simple
If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is.
Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.
I feel a song coming on, take it or leave it, but I fear developing haemorrhoids is imminently coming your way if you ignore it.
You've got to accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
And latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mister In-Between.
You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
Bring gloom down to the minimum,
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene
I am slightly less worried I must admit!
Baddesley Bill
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7:19pm Thu 31 May 12
Ageas SFC wrote:I'm free to state my opinions too...in my opinion, your opinions have been over opinionated ****...but hey...it's only my opinion right?
In response to that, who's fault was it for both late pompey goals when adkins brought him on for some solidarity ... Dan Harding. And i'v been to enough saints games to back my views of those players. Free world im entitled to my opinion.
Red n White
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7:24pm Thu 31 May 12
JohnItaly wrote:I like Roy Hodgson, and think he'll get us organised and everyone will know what to do. We've got to accept that we can't really compete with the top teams playing good football, we're really Quarter-Final standard, and anything beyond that is good I reckon. I think we'll be playing on the break against the likes of Spain and Germany, which might work better than trying to outplay them. Roy's experienced at getting average teams punching above their weight which should help.
slugger wrote:With the crop of youngsters coming through and assuming Saints establish themselves in the Premiership and we can hang onto them it would be disappointing if in say 3/4 years a Saint isn't in the England squad.JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feelingwillygetaway wrote: Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Aren't all 4 of the youth players promoted to the first team England Youth internationals?
rocketone
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7:29pm Thu 31 May 12
They just support their opinion.
Any player pulling on the red & white stripes is going to get my full support.
The miserable gits who always moan about particular players, I hope you realise that it is the likes of you who drive players away.
Why would Guly want to play for a bunch of idiots who are meant to be on his side and spend more time running him down than any opposition player ?
willygetaway
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7:31pm Thu 31 May 12
slugger wrote:i hear ya Slugger, But its the only Real footie between now and the new season. and until pen is put to paper (ref JRod) i thought we could talk proper footie stuff rather than ****.
JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
willygetaway
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7:32pm Thu 31 May 12
willygetaway wrote:the astrix stand for a female dog
slugger wrote:i hear ya Slugger, But its the only Real footie between now and the new season. and until pen is put to paper (ref JRod) i thought we could talk proper footie stuff rather than ****.
JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
willygetaway
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7:38pm Thu 31 May 12
Red n White wrote:i think that the fact that they are expecting to under achieve takes the pressure of a little.
JohnItaly wrote:I like Roy Hodgson, and think he'll get us organised and everyone will know what to do. We've got to accept that we can't really compete with the top teams playing good football, we're really Quarter-Final standard, and anything beyond that is good I reckon. I think we'll be playing on the break against the likes of Spain and Germany, which might work better than trying to outplay them. Roy's experienced at getting average teams punching above their weight which should help.
slugger wrote:With the crop of youngsters coming through and assuming Saints establish themselves in the Premiership and we can hang onto them it would be disappointing if in say 3/4 years a Saint isn't in the England squad.JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feelingwillygetaway wrote: Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Aren't all 4 of the youth players promoted to the first team England Youth internationals?
i think we are better than that
and at least R Hodgson . and write his own team sheet unlike Harry Houdeanie :)
slugger
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7:58pm Thu 31 May 12
willygetaway wrote:point taken ...... perhaps the lack of expectation will work in our favour , gonne be in le mans for a week of it so will have to source a french bar with sky tv !
willygetaway wrote:the astrix stand for a female dog
slugger wrote:i hear ya Slugger, But its the only Real footie between now and the new season. and until pen is put to paper (ref JRod) i thought we could talk proper footie stuff rather than ****.
JohnItaly wrote:don't care about the england team tbh (until there're a few saints players in it) , the last world cup did it for me !
willygetaway wrote:Would that be positively or negatively?
allmove4ward2geva wrote:i have a feeling that we may surprise a few people, just a feeling
willygetaway wrote:England have admitted defeat selecting downing, henderson and walcott
Ok you mighty saints supporters let get are minds fixed on the Euros Whats your thoughts guys ?
RedArmy1
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9:03pm Thu 31 May 12
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED AND WHITE. COYR.
RedArmy1
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9:03pm Thu 31 May 12
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED AND WHITE. COYR.
Invidia
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9:22pm Thu 31 May 12
RedArmy1 wrote:Why would we want an England class goalkeeper we already have an England class goalkeeper in Tommy Forcast. I cannot for the life of me see any English goalkeeper who is class, I am sure if there was one then he would be playing for one of the PL top teams
LET'S GET AN ENGLAND CLASS GOALKEEPER SIGNED UP FOR SAINTS.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
RED AND WHITE. COYR.
berry boy
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9:47pm Thu 31 May 12
Saintjock wrote:agree
Ageas SFC wrote: If you went to the games each week and actually watched Guly, you'd realise how bad he is. Granted he'd be a good player for the squad, and he has developed over the past year, but we need players who have a bit more quality than him.Saw all home games and a fair few away ones and Guly was very good first half of the season and couldn't be dropped through form - NA knew how good he was for the team. Got injured and had to wait his turn to get back in and because he was being played in different positions didn't get back his early from. De Ridder is poor - no end-product, no work rate, no future in the prem. Guly will love the prem.
Invidia
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10:10pm Thu 31 May 12
hedge end bob
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10:14pm Thu 31 May 12
Ciaran wrote:I read both sites but, unlike you i know when someone is just story telling. If you grow up you might be able too as well.
hedge end bob wrote:Then go and read the OS and leave the rest of us alone.
BlandfordSaint wrote:How can you say great post about an article that's not even true yet? Their trying to sell papers to the few that hang on to their every word. Hope you wont be disappointed.
Great post well done the echo. reckon Jay will play wide right if we do not get an Ince or Phillips - coming in at the back post as Adam and Fox whip those balls in the area - Come on you Saints
I will wait for Nicola to set the headlines.
You always moan about the Echo so why bother logging on here if all you want to hear is what NC wants to you hear?
hedge end bob
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10:14pm Thu 31 May 12
Ciaran wrote:I read both sites but, unlike you i know when someone is just story telling. If you grow up you might be able too as well.
hedge end bob wrote:Then go and read the OS and leave the rest of us alone.
BlandfordSaint wrote:How can you say great post about an article that's not even true yet? Their trying to sell papers to the few that hang on to their every word. Hope you wont be disappointed.
Great post well done the echo. reckon Jay will play wide right if we do not get an Ince or Phillips - coming in at the back post as Adam and Fox whip those balls in the area - Come on you Saints
I will wait for Nicola to set the headlines.
You always moan about the Echo so why bother logging on here if all you want to hear is what NC wants to you hear?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:17pm Thu 31 May 12
Invidia wrote:Released
Speaking of goalkeepers have I missed something Bartosz Bialkowski is not included in the OS team squad
hedge end bob
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10:28pm Thu 31 May 12
hedge end bob wrote:Are you one of the plastic supporters that has been mentioned on here?? . Only dont recall your users name like a few other fishy posts.
Ciaran wrote:I read both sites but, unlike you i know when someone is just story telling. If you grow up you might be able too as well.
hedge end bob wrote:Then go and read the OS and leave the rest of us alone.
BlandfordSaint wrote:How can you say great post about an article that's not even true yet? Their trying to sell papers to the few that hang on to their every word. Hope you wont be disappointed.
Great post well done the echo. reckon Jay will play wide right if we do not get an Ince or Phillips - coming in at the back post as Adam and Fox whip those balls in the area - Come on you Saints
I will wait for Nicola to set the headlines.
You always moan about the Echo so why bother logging on here if all you want to hear is what NC wants to you hear?
Invidia
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10:47pm Thu 31 May 12
Baddesley Bill
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11:00pm Thu 31 May 12
Invidia wrote:Keep up vids...where have you been man! :O)
I must of missed that Seeds, has any club picked him up?
Invidia
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11:44pm Thu 31 May 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:cape verde
Invidia wrote:Keep up vids...where have you been man! :O)
I must of missed that Seeds, has any club picked him up?
Ageas SFC
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8:57am Fri 1 Jun 12
StevieSteve
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9:09am Fri 1 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:All 4 fullbacks aren't premier league class. Hopefully Shaw and Stephens will be!
To inasane saint ... I have been a season ticket holder for the past 10 seasons so i have been through it thick and thin, still going to call me plastic now. Yea harding may have got more goals than fox but fox created like 10 times more goals than what harding actually scored. And yes guly ducked out the way but it was harding who conceded the cheep corner in the first place when he could have easily put the ball up the park, i would know as i was actually there, where were you?
Ageas SFC
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9:44am Fri 1 Jun 12
insane saint
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11:51am Fri 1 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:in reponce to you yes i was and have always been. home games are they and do you look though those bins that have dark clouds over them all the time doom and gloom merchants should clear off.
To inasane saint ... I have been a season ticket holder for the past 10 seasons so i have been through it thick and thin, still going to call me plastic now. Yea harding may have got more goals than fox but fox created like 10 times more goals than what harding actually scored. And yes guly ducked out the way but it was harding who conceded the cheep corner in the first place when he could have easily put the ball up the park, i would know as i was actually there, where were you?
i hear your opinion but the fact is your opinion does not match alot of others on here so that tends to say something about your knoledge of the game.
clear it down the park mmmmmm let me think.. under pressure from attaker the only place to put it was for a corner. so not his fault i stand by what i said guly was at fault for the goal not brave enough to put his head in. he lost us the goal.
but still WUM'S will always come out with cr4p plastic i was only refering to the fact you appear on here when we got to the prem and come out with a right old load of tosh..
so you want a new back 4 new mid and a striker, oh and a new keeper. if you want that you'd better of going to watch the blue few down the road as that is what is going to happen with them.
you might want to use the quote button under the comment it makes it eaisier to respond to you answers or are you only 12 years old since you have only had a "SEASON ticket" for "10 YEARS". enjoy your last day at school this friday..
WE AERE SOUTHAMPTON PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
COYR
BracknellSaint
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12:42pm Fri 1 Jun 12
Ageas SFC
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2:38pm Fri 1 Jun 12
But as i am writing this comment at work, dont quite think im at my last day of school?
Hence why the times i write on here are only between a 9-5 basis, not any sooner or after.
Sooooooooooooooooooo
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All im referring to is the fact that you cant keep saying we need to give certain players a chance, we have to be ruthless and get more players in who can perform at that level. We'll see who's right when it comes to the first game of the season!!
UTS!
SFCOLDBOY
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2:59pm Fri 1 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:I was at the game,I also know that Insane Saint was also there.
To inasane saint ... I have been a season ticket holder for the past 10 seasons so i have been through it thick and thin, still going to call me plastic now. Yea harding may have got more goals than fox but fox created like 10 times more goals than what harding actually scored. And yes guly ducked out the way but it was harding who conceded the cheep corner in the first place when he could have easily put the ball up the park, i would know as i was actually there, where were you?
Saints were under a lot of pressure when he came on with literally only minutes to go.
I agree Dan Harding did make a mistake and should have kicked into touch.
In his defence, he had had no time to get into the pace of the game at all.
You say you attended the match then you will now remember it as it actually was.
I respect that you are entitled to your opinions but it seems to me that all you see is the negatives in certain players, judging by your posts.
COYR.
it seems to me you only see
Ageas SFC
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3:52pm Fri 1 Jun 12
insane saint
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11:47pm Fri 1 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:have you got any clue what you are saying?????????
Yea i agree with you totally, butterfield is solid, decent cross, harding is fairly reliable, guly will get you goals so they have got there positives but i just feel we need to strengthen in those areas.
SFCOLDBOY
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8:14am Sat 2 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:I agree with Insane Saint, you are just a WUM who knows nothing about football there also seems to be an "eu de peche".
Yea i agree with you totally, butterfield is solid, decent cross, harding is fairly reliable, guly will get you goals so they have got there positives but i just feel we need to strengthen in those areas.
It,s French, look it up.
Below are 2 of your previous quotes.
(1)
Ageas SFC says...
2:12pm Thu 31 May 12
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ...
What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer
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Ageas SFC says...
2:37pm Thu 31 May 12
No Dan Harding is the worst, he doesn't even merit a place in the saints squad let alone be cover for LB.
Such a rediculous thought that dan harding is a good player.
Contradiction do you think?
I am sure any person reading this could be under no illusion that you either have memory issues or you are just a complete _______.
Use any word you like in the underligned area.
COYR
flashhart2000
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5:42pm Sun 3 Jun 12
Ageas SFC wrote:And you are a terrible woeful fan.
Getting off the Guly/Steve subject ...
What about Danny Butterfield? Just a terrible, terrible footballer.
No offence
andysaints007
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1:31am Wed 6 Jun 12
skings80 wrote:..and your point is what???
just another story filler while we wait for something concrete ??
skings80 says...
10:54am Thu 31 May 12