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Sneak preview of city wall lights
WITH a flick of a switch, a stretch of Southampton's medieval walls will be seen in a whole new light tonight.
Five historic arches near the waterfront will be ablaze in a sea of multi-coloured lights every night for at least the next two years.
The result of £77,000 of taxpayers' money, the lighting scheme, known as Halation, is the latest bid to give Southampton an elusive wow factor.
It has received a mixed reaction with some people describing it as a waste of public money while others said it was an imaginative tourist attraction.
Funding was approved by the Southampton Partnership - the same strategic group that rejected plans for a £250,000 bronze replica Spitfire which would have stood on the roundabout outside the De Vere Grand Harbour Hotel.
Motorists driving past that spot were given a sneak preview last night as engineers tested the high-tech LED lights.
The lights can be programmed by computer to display the 600-year-old walls, along Western Esplanade, in more than 10,000 different colour combinations.
Five standard programmes have been installed which flash pink, orange, purple, red, yellow, white and blue, according to artist's impressions.
Southampton City Council public arts officer Elizabeth Smith revealed there would also be special lighting displays on the anniversary of the Titanic sinking (April 14), the 90th anniversary of Armistice Day (November 11) and the anniversary of the Southampton blitz (November 14).
The lights switch on automatically at dusk every night using a solar time clock that reads sunlight.
They will turn off at 1am, though this could be extended at the height of summer as the evening stay brighter longer.
It is all part of a long-term plan to artistically light up the walls and other parts of the Old Town.
Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades.
"The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through."
Councillor Derek Burke, Cabinet member for leisure and neighbourhoods, said: "It is important for all of us to remember that the city has a fascinating history and projects like this really engage the public and could help to bring back to life parts of Southampton."
Mayor Councillor Stephen Barnes-Andrews, will switch on the lights at 6.30pm tonight.
The launch of Halation kicks off the Southampton Shows Off weekend, which celebrates the city's creativity, talent and culture.
8:59am Thursday 13th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: moominpapa, in the trees on 9:07am Thu 13 Mar 08
As I went past the old walls last night I thought WOW!!!Southampton Is really going for it this time NOT!!!!!!!
What a pile of 5hit.waste of money. why coloured lights? white would have enhanced alcoves not made them look like a joke,Was this done by an artist? my guess would be pi55 artist
As I went past the old walls last night I thought WOW!!!Southampton Is really going for it this time NOT!!!!!!!
What a pile of 5hit.waste of money. why coloured lights? white would have enhanced alcoves not made them look like a joke,Was this done by an artist? my guess would be pi55 artist
Posted by: hmm on 9:28am Thu 13 Mar 08
WOW
What does your average young hard working male see in return for his council tax demands
WOW
What does your average young hard working male see in return for his council tax demands
Posted by: parthian, winchester on 9:30am Thu 13 Mar 08
I quite like them. Is that allowed? Or do we have to think everything in Southampton is cr*p? There's some kind of law about it apparently from the relentless whinging here.
I quite like them. Is that allowed? Or do we have to think everything in Southampton is cr*p? There's some kind of law about it apparently from the relentless whinging here.
Posted by: Tony, Southampton on 9:36am Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]parthian[/bold] wrote:
I quite like them. Is that allowed? Or do we have to think everything in Southampton is cr*p? There's some kind of law about it apparently from the relentless whinging here. [/quote] No it's not allowed. People on here like to whinge and the Echo likes to knock anything that isn't the lowest common denominator. The lights are OK, in fact they're interesting and attractive. They're not the "wow factor" but that's a pretty stupid concept anyway. One piece of art or tourist attraction does not make a wow factor. It's more an attitude of mind and the perception that the city is lively, vibrant and "can do". It is not a rather pathetic model of a Spitfire perched on a roundabout that's set to disappear soon anyway.
parthian wrote:
I quite like them. Is that allowed? Or do we have to think everything in Southampton is cr*p? There's some kind of law about it apparently from the relentless whinging here.
No it's not allowed. People on here like to whinge and the Echo likes to knock anything that isn't the lowest common denominator. The lights are OK, in fact they're interesting and attractive. They're not the "wow factor" but that's a pretty stupid concept anyway. One piece of art or tourist attraction does not make a wow factor. It's more an attitude of mind and the perception that the city is lively, vibrant and "can do". It is not a rather pathetic model of a Spitfire perched on a roundabout that's set to disappear soon anyway.
Posted by: 100 watt, under a lampshade on 9:45am Thu 13 Mar 08
Illuminating
Posted by: City Worker, Southampton on 10:06am Thu 13 Mar 08
Who actually walks around there anyway? Maybe a couple of people coming off the ferry and a couple of business men staying at the de vere walking arm in arm with their escorts?
Who actually walks around there anyway? Maybe a couple of people coming off the ferry and a couple of business men staying at the de vere walking arm in arm with their escorts?
Posted by: Flash Harry on 10:14am Thu 13 Mar 08
Light artist Simon Watkinson £70,000.00
Lights £7000.00
Bought from Maplins
£22.00 each
[italic]The launch of Halation kicks off the Southampton Shows Off weekend, which celebrates the city's creativity, talent and culture.[/italic]
That should take a couple of hours !!!
Light artist Simon Watkinson £70,000.00
Lights £7000.00
Bought from Maplins
£22.00 each
The launch of Halation kicks off the Southampton Shows Off weekend, which celebrates the city's creativity, talent and culture.
That should take a couple of hours !!!
Posted by: R.T. Pratt on 10:23am Thu 13 Mar 08
I saw this wonderful sight and cannot praise the council enough for backing the project.
I am disappointed that the general public cannot appreciate such a work, but I suppose that's why they are called the general public (although peons is probably a better word).
Well done all those involved. Bring on the bronze statue and keep Southampton as a city of WOW !
I saw this wonderful sight and cannot praise the council enough for backing the project.
I am disappointed that the general public cannot appreciate such a work, but I suppose that's why they are called the general public (although peons is probably a better word).
Well done all those involved. Bring on the bronze statue and keep Southampton as a city of WOW !
Posted by: Hants, Ocean Village on 10:45am Thu 13 Mar 08
I quite like the lighting it will kind of match the Casino at Town Quay.
The point is how did lighting cost £77,000
Has this figure been made up?
Surely this kind of project, as it is a nice idea to improve the city, should be run in conjunction with Southampton University. The students could have designed the lighting and done all the work?
And saved many thousands of Tax payers money?
I quite like the lighting it will kind of match the Casino at Town Quay.
The point is how did lighting cost £77,000
Has this figure been made up?
Surely this kind of project, as it is a nice idea to improve the city, should be run in conjunction with Southampton University. The students could have designed the lighting and done all the work?
And saved many thousands of Tax payers money?
Posted by: Santa, Lapland on 10:59am Thu 13 Mar 08
They could have asked me for some spare Christmas lights. Or they could have gone to the pound shop and bought some. All the same this would have saved money.... Ho ho ho!
They could have asked me for some spare Christmas lights. Or they could have gone to the pound shop and bought some. All the same this would have saved money.... Ho ho ho!
Posted by: Greenpeace, Arctic Circle on 11:02am Thu 13 Mar 08
I thought that Southampton wanted to be a greener city, having these lights on every night is going to waste so much electricity. Think of the polar bears!!!
I thought that Southampton wanted to be a greener city, having these lights on every night is going to waste so much electricity. Think of the polar bears!!!
Posted by: Stephen, Aberdeen on 11:06am Thu 13 Mar 08
The lights look great but why £77,000. I can't help feeling that is far to much. Maybe it's just the initial cost per light which is to high and the cost will reduce as more is added.
The lights look great but why £77,000. I can't help feeling that is far to much. Maybe it's just the initial cost per light which is to high and the cost will reduce as more is added.
Posted by: I know the truth, Hampshire on 12:03pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]hmm[/bold] wrote:
WOW What does your average young hard working male see in return for his council tax demands[/quote] Wrong again - and the sloppy reporting of this papaer does it again.. The £77k is money direct from Government via SEEDA to Southampton Partnership and has nothing to do with Council Tax
I get pig sick of this papers rants about thigs that are different and actually give the city something extra.
Isnt it about time the city actually had a paper that stood up for good things happening here rather than slatting everyone
Fed up!
hmm wrote:
WOW What does your average young hard working male see in return for his council tax demands
Wrong again - and the sloppy reporting of this papaer does it again.. The £77k is money direct from Government via SEEDA to Southampton Partnership and has nothing to do with Council Tax
I get pig sick of this papers rants about thigs that are different and actually give the city something extra.
Isnt it about time the city actually had a paper that stood up for good things happening here rather than slatting everyone
Fed up!
Posted by: bemused onlooker, Southampton on 12:32pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Greenpeace[/bold] wrote:
I thought that Southampton wanted to be a greener city, having these lights on every night is going to waste so much electricity. Think of the polar bears!!![/quote] Now that is a good idea. A polar bear to each arch, with a plentiful diet of chavs. A real WOW factor and a never ending source of public entertainment.
Greenpeace wrote:
I thought that Southampton wanted to be a greener city, having these lights on every night is going to waste so much electricity. Think of the polar bears!!!
Now that is a good idea. A polar bear to each arch, with a plentiful diet of chavs. A real WOW factor and a never ending source of public entertainment.
Posted by: hmm on 1:18pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I just hope it does not alarm Freda Wheeler when she cycles past
I just hope it does not alarm Freda Wheeler when she cycles past
Posted by: God forbid they..... on 1:31pm Thu 13 Mar 08
could have spent ALL of that money in improving signs/attractions/cl
eaniness of the streets for the public and the tourist.
If they had to light the walls up white lights would have been better.
could have spent ALL of that money in improving signs/attractions/cl
eaniness of the streets for the public and the tourist.
If they had to light the walls up white lights would have been better.
Posted by: Freda Wheeler on 2:29pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]hmm[/bold] wrote:
I just hope it does not alarm Freda Wheeler when she cycles past[/quote] Thank you for you concern young lady, but I have no plans to be cycling in that part of town during the hours of dark. It is far too dangerous as it is, and now I find out that the walls are used for such un-savory acts I shall be giving them a wide berth. Goodness knows what my late husband Edward would have thought of such shenanigans.
hmm wrote:
I just hope it does not alarm Freda Wheeler when she cycles past
Thank you for you concern young lady, but I have no plans to be cycling in that part of town during the hours of dark. It is far too dangerous as it is, and now I find out that the walls are used for such un-savory acts I shall be giving them a wide berth. Goodness knows what my late husband Edward would have thought of such shenanigans.
Posted by: Gerry on 2:35pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I can't say it would make the slightest difference to me whether the lights increase the wow factor in Southampton or not.
I can't say it would make the slightest difference to me whether the lights increase the wow factor in Southampton or not.
Posted by: Fine Art Degree on 3:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades.
"The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through."
May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.
Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades.
"The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through."
May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.
Posted by: R.T. Pratt on 3:17pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Fine Art Degree[/bold] wrote:
Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades.
"The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through."
May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.[/quote] Quite clearly you have no appreciation of modern art !
I bet you probably haven't taken the time to view this magnificent scene ? I suspect however that neither have any of the narrow-minded souls who have made these negative comments.
It is so sad to see that so many people cannot rise above the swamp and appreciate fine things.
Fine Art Degree wrote:
Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades.
"The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through."
May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.
Quite clearly you have no appreciation of modern art !
I bet you probably haven't taken the time to view this magnificent scene ? I suspect however that neither have any of the narrow-minded souls who have made these negative comments.
It is so sad to see that so many people cannot rise above the swamp and appreciate fine things.
Posted by: Hants, Ocean Village on 3:24pm Thu 13 Mar 08
After a bit of digging around, I notice that yet again, the project has been sourced to a Northern Company.
I like the idea of improving the City, but lets keep it local. Afterall, it's the locals that know the City better than anyone!
After a bit of digging around, I notice that yet again, the project has been sourced to a Northern Company.
I like the idea of improving the City, but lets keep it local. Afterall, it's the locals that know the City better than anyone!
Posted by: Floccinaucinihilipil
ificator on 3:39pm Thu 13 Mar 08
WOW
What a crock of 5hit.
WOW
What a crock of 5hit.
Posted by: Floccinaucinihilipil
ificator on 3:39pm Thu 13 Mar 08
WOW
What a crock of 5hit.
WOW
What a crock of 5hit.
Posted by: Prince Albert on 3:52pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]R.T. Pratt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fine Art Degree[/bold] wrote: Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades. "The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through." May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.[/quote] Quite clearly you have no appreciation of modern art ! I bet you probably haven't taken the time to view this magnificent scene ? I suspect however that neither have any of the narrow-minded souls who have made these negative comments. It is so sad to see that so many people cannot rise above the swamp and appreciate fine things.[/quote] I agree
R.T. Pratt wrote:
Fine Art Degree wrote: Light artist Simon Watkinson, who created the scheme, said: "I wanted to take something from the Old Town and intertwine it with the new and in this instance the high arcades. "The arcades have been through many eras, for example at one point they were part of a house. Halation emphasises the changes these Arcades have gone through." May I just say that in all my years of dealing with "artist" and "designers" that this is the most blatant bunch of waffle I have come across, the guy has decided to chuck some lights in then found out a little about the walls and come up with this "reasoning" behind his "concept" and once again the city swallow it up like a Gimp on poppers.
Quite clearly you have no appreciation of modern art ! I bet you probably haven't taken the time to view this magnificent scene ? I suspect however that neither have any of the narrow-minded souls who have made these negative comments. It is so sad to see that so many people cannot rise above the swamp and appreciate fine things.
I agree
Posted by: C. Ockring on 3:54pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I disagree
Posted by: Virginia Scraping on 3:58pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I'm not sure yet!
Posted by: mr s, SOTON on 4:09pm Thu 13 Mar 08
even i have to admit-this is a bit of a wasite of money. i mean is this it??? just 5 walls getting the lights??? if that is the case then this is stupid. if they wanted to put lights on something put it near the docks and the itchen bridge. the bridge is pretty iconic and i think we should spend money on that being lit up.
even i have to admit-this is a bit of a wasite of money. i mean is this it??? just 5 walls getting the lights??? if that is the case then this is stupid. if they wanted to put lights on something put it near the docks and the itchen bridge. the bridge is pretty iconic and i think we should spend money on that being lit up.
Posted by: C. Ockring on 4:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mr s[/bold] wrote:
even i have to admit-this is a bit of a wasite of money. i mean is this it??? just 5 walls getting the lights??? if that is the case then this is stupid. if they wanted to put lights on something put it near the docks and the itchen bridge. the bridge is pretty iconic and i think we should spend money on that being lit up.[/quote] I agree!
mr s wrote:
even i have to admit-this is a bit of a wasite of money. i mean is this it??? just 5 walls getting the lights??? if that is the case then this is stupid. if they wanted to put lights on something put it near the docks and the itchen bridge. the bridge is pretty iconic and i think we should spend money on that being lit up.
I agree!
Posted by: elisha, winchester on 4:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Well i think it is a good idea & will look great! the city is already far better then wincehster & eastleigh so this just tops it of !
Well i think it is a good idea & will look great! the city is already far better then wincehster & eastleigh so this just tops it of !
Posted by: Prince Albert on 4:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I disagree!
Posted by: Virginia Scraping on 4:16pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I still cannot say either way!
I still cannot say either way!
Posted by: Keith Oftergrass on 4:20pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]elisha[/bold] wrote:
Well i think it is a good idea & will look great! the city is already far better then wincehster & eastleigh so this just tops it of ! [/quote] "far better than...eastleigh" - Praise indeed, you'll be saying we're better than downtown Baghdad next !!!
elisha wrote:
Well i think it is a good idea & will look great! the city is already far better then wincehster & eastleigh so this just tops it of !
"far better than...eastleigh" - Praise indeed, you'll be saying we're better than downtown Baghdad next !!!
Posted by: Gerry on 4:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Looks to me as all and sundry will be getting damp this evening. My! how the rain doth fall.
Looks to me as all and sundry will be getting damp this evening. My! how the rain doth fall.
Posted by: Cabbie on 4:47pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Lovely lookin but how much longer before they go green, been here 3 hours and the meters still running...
Lovely lookin but how much longer before they go green, been here 3 hours and the meters still running...
Posted by: Hguh Carres on 5:12pm Thu 13 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Gerry[/bold] wrote:
Looks to me as all and sundry will be getting damp this evening. My! how the rain doth fall.[/quote] Could you not get the current floozy to take charge of the motor this evening old chap ?
Gerry wrote:
Looks to me as all and sundry will be getting damp this evening. My! how the rain doth fall.
Could you not get the current floozy to take charge of the motor this evening old chap ?
Posted by: Yawn on 5:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Taxpayer-financed light polution.
Taxpayer-financed light polution.
Posted by: Duh, Soton on 5:48pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Hey not long before they turn on the lights!
Anyone going to watch? Is a celebrity turning them on like christmas time?
Oh i'm soooo excited, can't wait.
But it's raining so I think i'll stay home and turn on my lights :-(
Hey not long before they turn on the lights!
Anyone going to watch? Is a celebrity turning them on like christmas time?
Oh i'm soooo excited, can't wait.
But it's raining so I think i'll stay home and turn on my lights :-(
Posted by: Who Cares, Hampshire on 5:56pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I assume we're talking about the arches that have had scaffolding outside for god knows how many years?
If so, what a great idea, now on one side of the road we have beautiful lights and on the other we have ugly flats.
If we want to improve our City, should we not start on the 'entrance'. Visitors to the city come in from the M271 (aswell as other routes) what a great impression they must get of Southampton whilst driving that route.
I assume we're talking about the arches that have had scaffolding outside for god knows how many years?
If so, what a great idea, now on one side of the road we have beautiful lights and on the other we have ugly flats.
If we want to improve our City, should we not start on the 'entrance'. Visitors to the city come in from the M271 (aswell as other routes) what a great impression they must get of Southampton whilst driving that route.
Posted by: Hants, Ocean Village on 6:56pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I'm sure the lights will look wonderful. It's only a matter of time before they get vandalised though.
I'm sure the lights will look wonderful. It's only a matter of time before they get vandalised though.
Posted by: Wewullywinky on 7:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
£77,ooo to make some bricks look good. I bet it cost less to illuminate Niagra Falls. Yet another load of tax payers money wasted by those in office.
Put the animals of Marwell Zoo in charge they'd do a better job.
£77,ooo to make some bricks look good. I bet it cost less to illuminate Niagra Falls. Yet another load of tax payers money wasted by those in office.
Put the animals of Marwell Zoo in charge they'd do a better job.
Posted by: Luv it, Town on 10:48pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Haha,
I like good lighting, so do the pikey scum. They hang round it all night drinking beer. Yet another great attraction for them.
How about spending some money on doing up the day time views.
Afterall, who comes out after dark these days? Let me guess, the trouble makers.
Long live the lights.... £77,000 to be vandalised, come on kids get going!
What have you got to lose, you'll only get a smacked hand.
I may smash them myself, as they're never going to be seen by anyone decent.
What a total waste of time, but hey, so are our so called council.
Haha,
I like good lighting, so do the pikey scum. They hang round it all night drinking beer. Yet another great attraction for them.
How about spending some money on doing up the day time views.
Afterall, who comes out after dark these days? Let me guess, the trouble makers.
Long live the lights.... £77,000 to be vandalised, come on kids get going!
What have you got to lose, you'll only get a smacked hand.
I may smash them myself, as they're never going to be seen by anyone decent.
What a total waste of time, but hey, so are our so called council.
Posted by: george, lordshill on 6:39am Fri 14 Mar 08
Money should have been put towards an ice-rink
Money should have been put towards an ice-rink
Posted by: some bloke from portswood, portswood on 1:09pm Fri 14 Mar 08
i work in a school as a theatre tech , i create art works with young people all the time , wasting 77k on this is a joke , i cant understand HOW they spent so much. Ive seen better more creative things done on peoples houses at christmas . Some one has made alot of money out of this and southampton has gained nothing .Southampton has a wide base of creative talent , lets use it huh ?
i work in a school as a theatre tech , i create art works with young people all the time , wasting 77k on this is a joke , i cant understand HOW they spent so much. Ive seen better more creative things done on peoples houses at christmas . Some one has made alot of money out of this and southampton has gained nothing .Southampton has a wide base of creative talent , lets use it huh ?
Posted by: City worker on 2:47pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Luv it[/bold] wrote:
Haha,
I like good lighting, so do the pikey scum. They hang round it all night drinking beer. Yet another great attraction for them.
How about spending some money on doing up the day time views.
Afterall, who comes out after dark these days? Let me guess, the trouble makers.
Long live the lights.... £77,000 to be vandalised, come on kids get going!
What have you got to lose, you'll only get a smacked hand.
I may smash them myself, as they're never going to be seen by anyone decent.
What a total waste of time, but hey, so are our so called council.[/quote] What a complete waste of fresh air you are. With any luck you'll get electrocuted in the process. If that were the case, I doubt there would be anyone willing to p**s in youyr ear, even if your (questionable) brain was on fire.
Luv it wrote:
Haha,
I like good lighting, so do the pikey scum. They hang round it all night drinking beer. Yet another great attraction for them.
How about spending some money on doing up the day time views.
Afterall, who comes out after dark these days? Let me guess, the trouble makers.
Long live the lights.... £77,000 to be vandalised, come on kids get going!
What have you got to lose, you'll only get a smacked hand.
I may smash them myself, as they're never going to be seen by anyone decent.
What a total waste of time, but hey, so are our so called council.
What a complete waste of fresh air you are. With any luck you'll get electrocuted in the process. If that were the case, I doubt there would be anyone willing to p**s in youyr ear, even if your (questionable) brain was on fire.
Posted by: Wills, Soton on 6:27am Sat 15 Mar 08
Got that Lady Victoria Beckham touch of class about it thats for sure !
Got that Lady Victoria Beckham touch of class about it thats for sure !
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