This is a good start, the quicker they stop these idiots the better.

Regular meetings of speeding motorists have led to fears that it is only a matter of time before a serious accident leaves someone dead or badly injured.

Some did die last year echo, they flipped the FTO and killed themselves.

this is going on every night not just on sunday we need more visable patrols up here

so what exactly was the 'ring of steel' then? Was it some sort of tyre damaging device? How many bus lengths was it's diameter?

Christoff wrote:
so what exactly was the 'ring of steel' then? Was it some sort of tyre damaging device? How many bus lengths was it's diameter?

You're in a funny mood today, aren't you?

This also happens in Woolston in the Car Park by the Sailing Club on Victoria Road. Told the police on many occasions but they still go in there late at night and make loads of raquet wheel spinning their Chavaliers. Small brained Idiots.

This also happens in Woolston in the Car Park by the Sailing Club on Victoria Road. Told the police on many occasions but they still go in there late at night and make loads of raquet wheel spinning their Chavaliers. Small brained idiotic losers.

In some places in the UK the police hold events like this to allow "boy and girl racers" to allow them to "push their souped-up motors to the limit". This way would cut down a lot of accidents and as it is allowed with supervision it will more than likely stop them from doing it every other day of the week

This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

Sue Barrow wrote:
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

You numpty, they do no harm? One flipped his car and killed himself, numerous of them litter the area with McDonalds wrappers. I just pray for the safety of innocent drivers along there, one day and soon, someone will be taken out by one of these n00bs and then it will be an "accident" no doubt.

You need to get a grip.

hmm wrote:

Christoff wrote: so what exactly was the 'ring of steel' then? Was it some sort of tyre damaging device? How many bus lengths was it's diameter?

You're in a funny mood today, aren't you?

yup...here's one for you:

A woman and a man driver are involved in a horrific collision, but amazingly both escape completely unhurt - though their cars are written off.
As they crawl out of the wreckage, the man sees the woman is blonde and strikingly beautiful. Then the woman turns to the man and gushes breathily: 'That's incredible - both our cars are demolished but we're fine. It must be a sign from God that we are meant to be together!'
Sensing a promise, the man stammers back, 'Oh yes, I agree with you completely!'
The woman goes on, 'And look, though my car was destroyed, this bottle of wine survived intact, too! It must be another sign. Let's drink to our love!'
'Well, OK!' says the man, going with the moment. She offers him the bottle, so he downs half of it and hands it back.
'Your turn,' says the man.
'No, thanks,' says the woman, 'I think I'll just wait for the police.'

Women ay

Idiots wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote: This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

You numpty, they do no harm? One flipped his car and killed himself, numerous of them litter the area with McDonalds wrappers. I just pray for the safety of innocent drivers along there, one day and soon, someone will be taken out by one of these n00bs and then it will be an "accident" no doubt. You need to get a grip.

I think that you will find that the McDee's wrappers are dropped by all using the McDees, and it's only a small number can be put down to the car fans. If McDees would emty thier bins more there would be a lot less litter. Why is it that everone blams the youth for everything?

Sue Barrow wrote:

Idiots wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote: This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

You numpty, they do no harm? One flipped his car and killed himself, numerous of them litter the area with McDonalds wrappers. I just pray for the safety of innocent drivers along there, one day and soon, someone will be taken out by one of these n00bs and then it will be an "accident" no doubt. You need to get a grip.

I think that you will find that the McDee's wrappers are dropped by all using the McDees, and it's only a small number can be put down to the car fans. If McDees would emty thier bins more there would be a lot less litter. Why is it that everone blams the youth for everything?

Because 95% of the time its them, they are moron's.

Sue Barrow wrote:
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

Enjoying themselves, would you be saying the same if your teenager ended up in the morgue.

Although I was not blessed with children myself, I can understand how some parents might feel worried about their children, but I waslistening to a program on radio four the other week, and it was saying that the children today are wrapped up in cotton wool, and that, because they have not been allowed to take risks during their childhood, they are unable to make sesible risks for themselves. I don't know where the blame for this was laid as I recieved a telephone call right at the summing up part.

carol wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote: This is just a typical knee jerk
reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is
nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where
safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet
nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any
harm.

Enjoying themselves, would you be saying the same if your
teenager ended up in the morgue.

Won't someone please think of the children!!

Seriously, why does some idiot always have to drag this "argument" out? Next you'll be comparing these kids to Hitler or something. Think about what you're saying for pete's sake

Idiots wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote:

Idiots wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote:
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm.

You numpty, they do no
harm? One flipped his car and killed himself, numerous of them litter
the area with McDonalds wrappers. I just pray for the safety of
innocent drivers along there, one day and soon, someone will be taken
out by one of these n00bs and then it will be an "accident" no doubt.
You need to get a grip.

I think that you will find that the
McDee's wrappers are dropped by all using the McDees, and it's only a
small number can be put down to the car fans. If McDees would emty
thier bins more there would be a lot less litter. Why is it that
everone blams the youth for everything?

Because 95% of the time
its them, they are moron's.

They're moron's what? Or do you just not know how to use the apostrophe?

Sue Barrow wrote:
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm.

it is not a knee jerk reaction at all. I am fed up with driving home on Sundays from Hedge End and being cut up by morons..namely young boy racer Chavs from Chav End. You can't say if they were in their forties it would be different if it was as damaging to the safe road user, then people would still complain. I agree the youth don't have a lot to do in Hedge End, but driving unroadworthy vehicles is not a safe past time.

Here we go again - as soon as a story arises regarding young people in Southampton the "hang em high" brigade come on board !!

Any slight problems are always blamed directly on the young instead of thinking about why these situations have developed.

Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our children would be inside.

Give them a break please !!!

carol wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote: This is just a typical knee jerk
reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is
nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where
safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet
nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any
harm.

Enjoying themselves, would you be saying the same if your
teenager ended up in the morgue.

A flawed argument. Of course they wouldn't. But tell me, how does your point actually relate to anything? Are you suggesting that anything that could possibly, even remotely, cause any harm to anyone at any point, should be banned?

So someone's been killed in a car crash. How does that translate to "any group of young people in cars is destined to die in a car crash"? It doesn't. You're begging the question

Holly Gains wrote:
Here we go again - as soon as a story arises regarding young people in Southampton the "hang em high" brigade come on board !!

Any slight problems are always blamed directly on the young instead of thinking about why these situations have developed.

Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our children would be inside.

Give them a break please !!!

Give them a break! are you out of your mind? have you got children ?

When you compare the amount of young adults driving compared with, say, Football players, then compare the accidents/high speed crashes, I feel you will realise that age is not an issue, so please don't blame the young for your hang-ups.

Holly Gains wrote:
Here we go again - as soon as a story arises regarding young people in
Southampton the "hang em high" brigade come on board !! Any slight
problems are always blamed directly on the young instead of thinking
about why these situations have developed.
Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of
today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our
children would be inside. Give them a break please !!!

Once again, Holly, we're in agreement (almost). Where we disagree is, I fail to see why this should be considered a "situation" at all. I agree with your "give them a break" comment

So the police swoop, and find some cars that aren't roadworthy. Good good, so far so good. But those cars were un-roadworthy anyway, it's not like they suddenly became unroadworthy because they were all gathered in Hedge End. All that's developed is, some young people with a common interest have gathered together. I fail to see what the fuss is about. It doesn't take a mass meeting like this to make speeding dangerous

So the cars speed around a bit. So they make noise. Who are they really bothering? Would everyone rather these kids were roaming the streets? At least they have an interest other than swaggering around in drunken packs looking for fights. And the "would you be saying that if someone was hurt" argument is nonsense, because motorists are perfectly capable of crashing without having to arrange it with their mates up-front. Young people with cars have always done this, and always will.

whizzpop wrote:

Sue Barrow wrote:
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm.

it is not a knee jerk
reaction at all. I am fed up with driving home on Sundays from Hedge
End and being cut up by morons..namely young boy racer Chavs from Chav
End. You can't say if they were in their forties it would be different
if it was as damaging to the safe road user, then people would still
complain. I agree the youth don't have a lot to do in Hedge End, but
driving unroadworthy vehicles is not a safe past time.

It is a knee-jerk reaction. You being cut up by someone has nothing to do with a gathering of people. It's not like they meet up and say "right, let's go and cut up whizzpop, that'd be good for a laugh". These things happen regardless of whether there's a mass meeting of young drivers or not

El greeko wrote:
Sue Barrow on 1:20pm today
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm.
quote] Shut up skank, trying desperately hard to sound educated. Look
at the lads in Lepe, or were they your mates just having fun?
Fool! What do those lads in Lepe have to do with this? Seriously, the reasoning skills of some of the posters here is laughably poor.

By the way, name-calling to make your point is a sure-fire indicator that you haven't really got one

So you lot would be quite happy if your children were doing it would you.

George wrote:

Holly Gains wrote:
Here we go again - as soon as a story arises regarding young people in
Southampton the "hang em high" brigade come on board !! Any slight
problems are always blamed directly on the young instead of thinking
about why these situations have developed.
Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of
today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our
children would be inside. Give them a break please !!!

Once again, Holly, we're in agreement (almost). Where we disagree is, I fail to see why this should be considered a "situation" at all. I agree with your "give them a break" comment

So the police swoop, and find some cars that aren't roadworthy. Good good, so far so good. But those cars were un-roadworthy anyway, it's not like they suddenly became unroadworthy because they were all gathered in Hedge End. All that's developed is, some young people with a common interest have gathered together. I fail to see what the fuss is about. It doesn't take a mass meeting like this to make speeding dangerous

So the cars speed around a bit. So they make noise. Who are they really bothering? Would everyone rather these kids were roaming the streets? At least they have an interest other than swaggering around in drunken packs looking for fights. And the "would you be saying that if someone was hurt" argument is nonsense, because motorists are perfectly capable of crashing without having to arrange it with their mates up-front. Young people with cars have always done this, and always will.

Finally, someone on this site with a logical mind. Thanks George, I thought I was the only sensible human being on here !

carol wrote:

Holly Gains wrote: Here we go again - as soon as a
story arises regarding young people in Southampton the "hang em high"
brigade come on board !! Any slight problems are always blamed directly
on the young instead of thinking about why these situations have
developed.
Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of
today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our
children would be inside. Give them a break please !!!

Give them a break! are you out of your mind? have you got
children ?

What difference would having children make? Are you suggesting that only parents are entitled to opinions regarding young people? I can already predict your response, too:

"If you had children, you wouldn't want them killed in a car crash!!!!"

Fallacy. You're making the assumption that young people in cars only crash if they meet up en masse like this. That's clearly nonsense, and the statistics don't bear it out at all. How many young people in cars, who meet up like this. don't crash and die? I bet the ratio between the two is enormous

Banker on 3:37pm today
El greeko wrote: Sue Barrow on 1:20pm today This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves. I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a break, they are not doing any harm. quote] Shut up skank, trying desperately hard to sound educated. Look at the lads in Lepe, or were they your mates just having fun? Fool! What do those lads in Lepe have to do with this? Seriously, the reasoning skills of some of the posters here is laughably poor. By the way, name-calling to make your point is a sure-fire indicator that you haven't really got one
El greeko wrote:
Sue Barrow on 1:20pm today
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm.
quote] Shut up skank, trying desperately hard to sound educated. Look
at the lads in Lepe, or were they your mates just having fun?
Fool! What do those lads in Lepe have to do with this? Seriously, the reasoning skills of some of the posters here is laughably poor.

By the way, name-calling to make your point is a sure-fire indicator that you haven't really got one






Well if you failed to see his point, maybe you are in the wrong job! well


Actually, being a banker that fails to see sense is more than appropriate.

carol wrote:
So you lot would be quite happy if your children were doing it would you.

Doing what? Driving? Meeting up with friends? Or crashing and dying horribly? Be clearer, please

Holly Gains wrote:

George wrote:

Holly Gains wrote:
Here we go again - as soon as a story arises regarding young people in
Southampton the "hang em high" brigade come on board !! Any slight
problems are always blamed directly on the young instead of thinking
about why these situations have developed.
Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of
today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our
children would be inside. Give them a break please !!!

Once again, Holly, we're in agreement (almost). Where we
disagree is, I fail to see why this should be considered a "situation"
at all. I agree with your "give them a break" comment
So the police swoop, and find some cars that aren't roadworthy. Good
good, so far so good. But those cars were un-roadworthy
anyway, it's not like they suddenly became
unroadworthy because they were all gathered in Hedge End. All that's
developed is, some young people with a common interest have gathered
together. I fail to see what the fuss is about. It doesn't take a mass
meeting like this to make speeding dangerous
So the cars speed around a bit. So they make noise. Who are they really
bothering? Would everyone rather these kids were roaming the streets?
At least they have an interest other than swaggering around in drunken
packs looking for fights. And the "would you be saying that if someone
was hurt" argument is nonsense, because motorists are perfectly capable
of crashing without having to arrange it with their mates up-front.
Young people with cars have always done this, and always will.

Finally, someone on this site with a logical mind. Thanks George, I
thought I was the only sensible human being on here !

Nope. You know me, Holly, I'm far removed from your liberal point-of-view, but this story - and the reactions to it - is pure moral panic. I know there is a problem with the youth in this country, a BIG problem. But the assumption now is, if there are more than 3 people under the age of 30 in the same place at the same time, it's a problem. Why? Totally unjustified

pete wrote:
Banker on 3:37pm today
El greeko wrote: Sue Barrow on 1:20pm today
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm. quote] Shut up skank, trying
desperately hard to sound educated. Look at the lads in Lepe, or were
they your mates just having fun? Fool! What do those lads in
Lepe have to do with this? Seriously, the reasoning skills of some of
the posters here is laughably poor. By the way, name-calling to make
your point is a sure-fire indicator that you haven\'t really got one
El greeko wrote:
Sue Barrow on 1:20pm today
This is just a typical knee jerk reaction to a few enjoying themselves.
I live in Hedge End and there is nothing for the young to do. All of
the people driving thier cars where safe and responsable. If their ages
were, say, mid forties, I bet nobody would complain. Give the young a
break, they are not doing any harm.
quote] Shut up skank, trying desperately hard to sound educated. Look
at the lads in Lepe, or were they your mates just having fun?
Fool! What do those lads in Lepe have to do with this? Seriously, the
reasoning skills of some of the posters here is laughably poor.
By the way, name-calling to make your point is a sure-fire indicator
that you haven\'t really got one Well if you failed to see his
point, maybe you are in the wrong job! well
Actually, being a banker that fails to see sense is more than
appropriate. He hasn't got a point. Highlighting a completely different situation, that ended completely differently, and holding it up as if it were irrefutable evidence of something, is utter nonsense.

Explain to me the connection between the incident outlined in this story, and the one in Lepe. Go on. The only similarity is that there are cars involved in both, and I'm sure even you won't believe for a second that that's actually relevant in itself. Like I said, poor poor reasoning skills

Here's a similar argument to the one above. See if it makes sense:

The Nazis drove cars

The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better.

When I was a young cub many moons ago, I drove fast, wheel-span, handbrake turned and evrything else the youth are accused of doing and more. And I can tell you for a fact that none of it had anything to do with my age at the time, and everthing to do with the aggressive, and bligerant mind-set of my boss at the time. Before you all jump on the youth as a collective being, remember that there are more reasons than high spirits for any action deemed wreckless. Having said all that, I never drove my own car wrecklessly, only hitler's vans.

Idiots on 3:56pm today
The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better.
The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better.


Are you seriously suggesting that the older one gets, the bigger the engine we should have? That would mean that my grandfather, well in his 90s should be driving a 7litre dodge viper and not the 1.1 ltr metro. Explaine!

George wrote:

carol wrote:

Holly Gains wrote: Here we go again - as soon as a
story arises regarding young people in Southampton the "hang em high"
brigade come on board !! Any slight problems are always blamed directly
on the young instead of thinking about why these situations have
developed.
Thank goodness for the human rights people looking out for the youth of
today. If it was up to Gordon Brown and the contributors here all our
children would be inside. Give them a break please !!!

Give them a break! are you out of your mind? have you got
children ?

What difference would having children make? Are you suggesting that only parents are entitled to opinions regarding young people? I can already predict your response, too:

"If you had children, you wouldn't want them killed in a car crash!!!!"

Fallacy. You're making the assumption that young people in cars only crash if they meet up en masse like this. That's clearly nonsense, and the statistics don't bear it out at all. How many young people in cars, who meet up like this. don't crash and die? I bet the ratio between the two is enormous

Although i wasn't actually talking to you george, i was going to say, that if my two teenage sons were doing that i would be horrified, so you didn't predict what i was going to say.

What? wrote:
Idiots on 3:56pm today The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. Are you seriously suggesting that the older one gets, the bigger the engine we should have? That would mean that my grandfather, well in his 90s should be driving a 7litre dodge viper and not the 1.1 ltr metro. Explaine!

18-21, 1.1 litre or below
21 + anything goes

Much like motorcycles.

About time wrote:
This is a good start, the quicker they stop these idiots the better.

Regular meetings of speeding motorists have led to fears that it is only a matter of time before a serious accident leaves someone dead or badly injured.

Some did die last year echo, they flipped the FTO and killed themselves.

Speeding motorists meet up everyday on the M27, M3, M25...

Will the police stop people meeting in these places too?

Let's get back on topic here.

IF the people concerned (their age is unimportant) are driving in such a manner, or with such noise that local residents are in any way upset by it then the Police are right to monitor the situation.

IF the Police subsequently find that some of the people there are breaking the Law, then the Police are right to deal with the Law-brakers (sorry, couldn't resist that!) in accordance with the Law.

As for the RING OF STEEL it's just modern speak for 'send a few coppers down to have a look'

George wrote:

What? wrote: Idiots on 3:56pm today The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. Are you seriously suggesting that the older one gets, the bigger the engine we should have? That would mean that my grandfather, well in his 90s should be driving a 7litre dodge viper and not the 1.1 ltr metro. Explaine!

18-21, 1.1 litre or below 21 + anything goes Much like motorcycles.

Wouldn't that work better with driving experience?

3yrs or less driving experience - 1.1 ltr or below
3yrs + - anything goes

Lee wrote:
Let's get back on topic here. IF the people concerned (their age is unimportant) are driving in such a manner, or with such noise that local residents are in any way upset by it then the Police are right to monitor the situation. IF the Police subsequently find that some of the people there are breaking the Law, then the Police are right to deal with the Law-brakers (sorry, couldn't resist that!) in accordance with the Law. As for the RING OF STEEL it's just modern speak for 'send a few coppers down to have a look'

Completely agree.

If the kids want to hang around McDonalds without causing any trouble to others then nobody, not even the police, can do anything about it.

McD wrote:

George wrote:

What? wrote: Idiots on 3:56pm today The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. Are you seriously suggesting that the older one gets, the bigger the engine we should have? That would mean that my grandfather, well in his 90s should be driving a 7litre dodge viper and not the 1.1 ltr metro. Explaine!

18-21, 1.1 litre or below 21 + anything goes Much like motorcycles.

Wouldn't that work better with driving experience? 3yrs or less driving experience - 1.1 ltr or below 3yrs + - anything goes

Yeah whatever stops these morons, also limit the number of modifications to a car in the three years. too none.

George wrote:

McD wrote:

George wrote:

What? wrote: Idiots on 3:56pm today The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. The quicker they limit engine sizes to age. the better. Are you seriously suggesting that the older one gets, the bigger the engine we should have? That would mean that my grandfather, well in his 90s should be driving a 7litre dodge viper and not the 1.1 ltr metro. Explaine!

18-21, 1.1 litre or below 21 + anything goes Much like motorcycles.

Wouldn\'t that work better with driving experience? 3yrs or less driving experience - 1.1 ltr or below 3yrs + - anything goes

Yeah whatever stops these morons, also limit the number of modifications to a car in the three years. too none.

The majority of the Men in the motor industry, and I mean the proper engineers, ever increasing the tolerances of engines, making them lighter and more reliable, not the plebs in fords assembling kits; all fiddled with their cars when they where youths. If we ban such tickering in the young, we effectively kill off a generation of progrees. The UK will end up like the USA, fat and thick.

Rather than wasting all the Police time and effort in suppressing the exuberance of youth, would it not be far better to allocate certain areas of road as a free-play area for certain periods during the night. 'Normal' road use would be stopped and these young people would be allowed to express themselves and rid themselves of pent up anger in a confined area so the morons condemning them are not 'at risk' due to their actions ?

A little bit of lateral thinking is all that is required.

Lee wrote:
Let's get back on topic here. IF the people concerned (their age is unimportant) are driving in such a manner, or with such noise that local residents are in any way upset by it then the Police are right to monitor the situation. IF the Police subsequently find that some of the people there are breaking the Law, then the Police are right to deal with the Law-brakers (sorry, couldn't resist that!) in accordance with the Law. As for the RING OF STEEL it's just modern speak for 'send a few coppers down to have a look'

What residents? McDees is on a trding estate nobody lives there and all the shops are shut at that time, and the roads are compleatly empty. Thats why it is such a great place to meet up. If you stopped the meets then you would be damaging the local economy, depriving McDees and KFC of income. Take away the meets and you takeaway someone's job.

If any one is a moron its you, listen to yourself will you, if they got pent up anger they should go to anger management, not driving like idiots on the roads.