Cheek of teachers and rich MPs trying to stop holiday breaks for families

Daily Echo: Cheek of teachers and rich MPs trying to stop holiday breaks for families Cheek of teachers and rich MPs trying to stop holiday breaks for families

The government says it is considering clamping down on parents who take their children out of school for holidays during term time.

Not on they say. Parents - naughty, naughty, parents - who are struggling to make ends meet thanks to the idiocy of successive governments in running the British economy - shouldn't try to save pennies and take a week or two out of term time when children should be in class learning.

It matters so much that children spend every waking minute they can being taught by those dedicated teachers who - apart from the days they take when they feel like it to send children home so that hard working parents have to take time off and lose money to look after them while they under go training (eh?)- are always there in class.

That will be the teachers and lecturers who get three times as much holiday as everyone else then.

Why do I think that this is more about teachers being envious that parents with jobs that only get five weeks holiday are saving a bit of cash taking breaks at times poor teachers cannot?

Or perhaps I am just being bitter - which is silly really, as my own children, who we took out of school in term time every year of their school lives for holidays and who did very well, are now old enough not to be affected by this draconian, spiteful move by a ruling class that is so rich it doesn't blink an eye at the cost of its annual holiday to the Maldives and lost touch with normal working folk long, long ago.

It doesn't bother me, so why worry.

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10:33am Thu 23 Feb 12

Sure says...

You have no idea what hours teachers work. Firstly the school holidays apply to the children not the teachers. My wife spends the first summer holiday week in the classroom clearing up etc and the last week preparing for the new class so we are confined to the middle 4 weeks to take our summer holiday. Easter half term is dedicated to writing reports on the children. Xmas is normally a good time. During the school week she starts at the school at 7.30am and gets home at 7.00pm. After dinner she does marking and prepares for the next days classes. Sunday is given up for school work.
Ask a teacher what their contracted hours are and you will get a glazed look. Ask them when overtime kicks in and they will laugh.
There may be a bit of envy by teachers when they would like to go home and switch off to enjoy normal family life like many other parents can do.
Please don't pretend you know what you are talking about as you are the editor of the largest local newspaper in the south and people, believe it or not, will accept your words as fact when, actually you haven't got a clue!!!
You have no idea what hours teachers work. Firstly the school holidays apply to the children not the teachers. My wife spends the first summer holiday week in the classroom clearing up etc and the last week preparing for the new class so we are confined to the middle 4 weeks to take our summer holiday. Easter half term is dedicated to writing reports on the children. Xmas is normally a good time. During the school week she starts at the school at 7.30am and gets home at 7.00pm. After dinner she does marking and prepares for the next days classes. Sunday is given up for school work. Ask a teacher what their contracted hours are and you will get a glazed look. Ask them when overtime kicks in and they will laugh. There may be a bit of envy by teachers when they would like to go home and switch off to enjoy normal family life like many other parents can do. Please don't pretend you know what you are talking about as you are the editor of the largest local newspaper in the south and people, believe it or not, will accept your words as fact when, actually you haven't got a clue!!! Sure
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2:06pm Thu 23 Feb 12

tommmmy555 says...

To 'Sure'

What dribble,

I lived with a teacher for years and not once did he fail to be home by half three.

In his own view he worked very little hours and had massive amounts of holiday for his wage.
To 'Sure' What dribble, I lived with a teacher for years and not once did he fail to be home by half three. In his own view he worked very little hours and had massive amounts of holiday for his wage. tommmmy555
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3:28pm Thu 23 Feb 12

Sure says...

I can assure it's not dribble its fact. I wonder how many years ago you are talking about and also I wonder what the quality of his teaching was.
I can assure it's not dribble its fact. I wonder how many years ago you are talking about and also I wonder what the quality of his teaching was. Sure
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4:34pm Thu 23 Feb 12

Folkestone Saint says...

I can confirm with some of Sure's comment's as I once knew a teacher, and we have never taken our children out of school for a holiday, however as a parent why should we in my view subsidise the cost of holidays for others who CAN take them out side of the busy period's, I say this as it must cost the same for fuel for a plane/ferry as it must be the same for staff at a hotel and the cost of food no matter what the time of year (excluding x-mas for staff), or should the government ban the sale of holiday's for over 5's to 16's during school term?
I can confirm with some of Sure's comment's as I once knew a teacher, and we have never taken our children out of school for a holiday, however as a parent why should we in my view subsidise the cost of holidays for others who CAN take them out side of the busy period's, I say this as it must cost the same for fuel for a plane/ferry as it must be the same for staff at a hotel and the cost of food no matter what the time of year (excluding x-mas for staff), or should the government ban the sale of holiday's for over 5's to 16's during school term? Folkestone Saint
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6:05pm Fri 24 Feb 12

CMFG Lover says...

I am a teacher, which is my choice, and could be your choice too. I work long hours, I work in the holidays, I work on a Sunday and am in Saturday school every other week, which I don't get paid extra for. I do it because I am a professional and I want my pupils to do well. I am well paid, I think, but my hourly rate is very low if you actually calculate how many hours I work including prep, marking, open evenings, options evenings, five parents evenings a year, school production etc. I have to go on holiday during term time...teachers have to pay the full price too! I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, I made my choice. Any of you who are criticising teachers, feel free to train to become one but my husband and friends will tell quite honestly that they don't envy me one bit. No teachers that I know of that are any good are at home by 3.30pm and never do work outside of the school day. Those teachers would be sacked in my school. Oh, and it's not the teachers who want to fine parents it's the government so stop blaming us!
I am a teacher, which is my choice, and could be your choice too. I work long hours, I work in the holidays, I work on a Sunday and am in Saturday school every other week, which I don't get paid extra for. I do it because I am a professional and I want my pupils to do well. I am well paid, I think, but my hourly rate is very low if you actually calculate how many hours I work including prep, marking, open evenings, options evenings, five parents evenings a year, school production etc. I have to go on holiday during term time...teachers have to pay the full price too! I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, I made my choice. Any of you who are criticising teachers, feel free to train to become one but my husband and friends will tell quite honestly that they don't envy me one bit. No teachers that I know of that are any good are at home by 3.30pm and never do work outside of the school day. Those teachers would be sacked in my school. Oh, and it's not the teachers who want to fine parents it's the government so stop blaming us! CMFG Lover
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7:34am Sat 25 Feb 12

Saint Bertie says...

I wouldn't mind the ban if teachers made good use of every school day.

My sons school, which is ofsted outstanding, gives pupils an office day once a term for good behaviour. In other words they take them out of lessons to stuff envelopes etc...

Then there is the final week of term where in most lessons they watch films, and the daytrip to the theatre or theme park as a reward for 100% attendance. Dare I also mention what happens when we get the smallest amount of snow.

I never take my kids out of school for holidays but think the schools need to take a good look at themselves before they start chastising those that do.
I wouldn't mind the ban if teachers made good use of every school day. My sons school, which is ofsted outstanding, gives pupils an office day once a term for good behaviour. In other words they take them out of lessons to stuff envelopes etc... Then there is the final week of term where in most lessons they watch films, and the daytrip to the theatre or theme park as a reward for 100% attendance. Dare I also mention what happens when we get the smallest amount of snow. I never take my kids out of school for holidays but think the schools need to take a good look at themselves before they start chastising those that do. Saint Bertie
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3:35pm Mon 27 Feb 12

tommmmy555 says...

Perhaps they should try and be more productive with their time?

There is a fundamental flaw in the system or their methods if they cannot achieve the work they are paid to do, in the time they are paid to do it.

Any extra work or hours that they are not paid for should be reported to their union if they feel that it is unjust - after all that is what unions are for.
Perhaps they should try and be more productive with their time? There is a fundamental flaw in the system or their methods if they cannot achieve the work they are paid to do, in the time they are paid to do it. Any extra work or hours that they are not paid for should be reported to their union if they feel that it is unjust - after all that is what unions are for. tommmmy555
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