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Police ran a good operation for derby


So it's over. After all the hype and anticipation the match is done.

I think we ran a good operation and with the club we were able to make sure that some of the risks people were predicting never happened.

There were some incidents of course, 11 people arrested so far and some people injured but, as far as I am aware as I type this, no one seriously hurt.

However, life in the City on a Saturday lunch time went ahead pretty much as normal and by far the majority of fans were well behaved.

There were some ugly scenes in Britannia Rd after the game which we were able to deal with without it getting very serious. I know some of the images of that look nasty and it was an unpleasant event but it was the kind of thing we had planned for.

It's just a pity that some fans chose to act the way they did at the end. We will be following up with an investigation to see if more people should be arrested and perhaps charged or put forward for banning orders.

There's been some criticism that we should have kept the Pompey fans in the stadium at the end for longer.

Actually many of them stayed inside through their own choice and we had a clear area outside for them to move into so there was no need to keep them in.

Even if we had I think it was apparent that a number of Saints fans were intent on waiting for them outside to find them somewhere.

It's very hard to completely segregate home and away fans when there is such a large area to cover as we move fans from the stadium to the station.

Everyone has a view about the best way to manage these issues and we always learn from experience but you can't always predict how crowds are going to behave except to say that, as always, by far the majority of fans behaved well.

Now its back to the more routine matches, maybe until a season not too far away when these derby games could be more frequent.

Comments(9)

costa gaz says...
6:16pm Mon 15 Feb 10

Yeh well done, plenty of overtime for the boys in blue, and a lot of expense for SFC.
A simple solution would be to ban pompey fans from this fixture and saints fans from fratton park, it would'nt affect attendances one bit, but it would save a whole lot of bother to the police, the towns and the clubs.

cheekytom says...
11:15pm Mon 15 Feb 10

With all due respect, after the huge effort to keep the fans from getting at each other before the game I couldn't believe that the away fans were let out at the same time as home fans afterwards. It was obvious from the amount of hate shown by both sets of fans beforehand that they shouldn't be allowed to mix, so surely having them already locked in in a self contained away stand was going to be much more sensible than letting them out and having to deal with both sets of fans in the open? Especially with the home fans smarting and some looking to let off a bit of anger after a big reverse.

Indeed, by the time I had got out of the ground in the Northam corner and walked the long way around the stadium due to the Northam car park being blocked off "for safety" I had timed it perfectly to be walking through the middle of the aggro Saints fans as they were running through the Freeborn garage, with volleys of stones being lobbed back and forth. Down the next street a handful of poor foot police armed with only batons had to deal with literally hundreds of fans running at each other, luckily the horsebacks got their just in time to stop it getting really ugly.

My girlfriend was shocked at the level of animosity, unfortunately I found myself more shocked at the decision to let them out.
Yes, not many arrests so far, and yes, not too much trouble considering, but it could have been far, far worse after such a daft decision was made. You said in your blog that there was no need to keep them in, but if you had then you wouldn’t have given them any opportunity to be stood face to face like that. Saints mob were spurred on by the fact that the Pompey mob were stood there hanging around outside, it gave them something to have a go at.

It would only have taken a lock in of 15 minutes to let the home fans get away, including those like me who had to walk the long way around the ground. Then you would have easily been able to identify the Saints mob who were hanging around looking for trouble and acted accordingly. I can't help think that a lot of them would have been less aggro had the bulk of the crowd already gone home already once Pompey were released, as it was their apparent numbers were bolstered by people like me who were just passing through and getting caught in the crossfire. All that effort, planning and manpower, only to be undone by something so simple. Lo and behold that is what is dominating the news now rather than the quality game that we saw inside the stadium.

You mentioned in your blog that it is always a learning exercise, I just hope that you learnt something here.

Pennyred says...
11:59am Tue 16 Feb 10

Agree fully with Cheekytom's comments.
Would also question why the away buses were parked at the northern end of Britannia Road? The police organisation was lacking in so many areas - not holding back the away fans until the majority of home fans had dispersed, not making a channel for the away fans to get to their buses, parking the buses so far from the stadium etc.
Anyone who has been to away matches with Saints has been subject to final-whistle restrictions - 45 minutes at Millwall - nearly an hour at Fratton Park. So why invite trouble by letting them loose at the final whistle. Looks to me that the police were 'looking for headlines' themselves? I'd like to know what they have 'learned' from Saturday's
naive handling of an apparently simple containment exercise.

footballcrazy says...
11:29am Wed 17 Feb 10

the so called fans that were violent i cannot believe they are true fans just people able to get tkts who were looking for fights.also i remember when my sons were youngs ago with many years ago millwall playing,away fans were escorted to the train station surrounded by police before our fans were allowed out.the fact the loud pompey fan was allowed in even though banned for life shows lack of interest from police. also banning so called fans for violent behaviour probably wont matter to the persons concerned as they probably never go anyway.

Cadnam sence says...
12:04pm Wed 17 Feb 10

I personally think the police operation was poor. Why at the narrowest point near the railway bridge weren’t police vans there to stop the trouble from the start? It was clearly a bottle neck on the route to the stadium.

As for leaving, why stop traffic from leaving the area, surely common sense would have been to let the cars out of the area, then move the fans, who ever had the bright idea of blocking the roads and forcing the traffic around back to the stadium nears to have a rethink.

Ozmosis says...
12:17pm Wed 17 Feb 10

I just hope that you guys get as many of the troublemakers as possible, Saints or Pompey. There's no real justification for the way they behaved.

jammyswine says...
4:49pm Thu 18 Feb 10

The reason Mr Portsmouth was allowed in was not a lack of interest from the police. I cant give the reasons here but it is related to administration and that time in our history.

SaintsBiker says...
10:14pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Highly stupid decision by police to let fans out at the same time, but then they `know` what they are doing just like when they let Millwall in for free and put them in Chaple....

jimmysfc21 says...
9:38am Tue 2 Mar 10

costa gaz, i kind of agree with you and I see your point, however i don't think preventing pompey fans and saints fans from each others stadiums is the right way forward as supporters still have a right to go watch their teams play and there no reason that they can't go watch their teams play but not go to cause trouble, those supporters should be banned from matches.


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