Why are some fans losing patience already?

Daily Echo: Alan Pardew Alan Pardew

EVEN at Saints, of all clubs, the message doesn’t seem to have got through yet.

With all the managers who have passed through in recent years, surely every person who considers themselves a Saints supporter would appreciate the need for stability to return to St Mary’s.

Obviously that’s not the case.

The first text Radio Solent received from a Saints fan after Saturday’s draw at Charlton said ‘Taxi for Alan Pardew!’ Where to? From the front entrance at The Valley to the away end so hundreds of supporters could shake his hand at winning a point against a team who had won their previous six League One games?

And the Daily Echo message boards have also been visited by people saying Pardew’s brief time in charge should be brought to an end.

Mercifully, those sort of comments seem to be in the small minority.

But the fact some fans are even mentioning ANOTHER change of manager after seven league games is a very sad, damning indictment of the state of English football.

Alan Pardew has had to play catch up on and off the pitch since arriving at St Mary’s in late July.

The protracted takeover certainly wasn’t his fault, and if we’re going to apportion blame for a stuttering start to 2009/10 then perhaps we should mention all those who played their part in that rumbling on and on.

Inheriting a relegated squad minus several of last season’s better performers, at a time when many of his League One rivals had had a full pre-season at least to work with their squad and sign new players, was never going to be an easy task.

Starting the campaign on minus 10 points made it doubly hard for Pardew.

Fans should remember all that. They should also remember that clubs in League One aren’t a bunch of jokers and Saints have no divine right to beat the likes of Brentford and Stockport.

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Pardew could have fielded a starting XI at Charlton with seven of his signings – Trotman, Jaidi, Harding, Hammond, Mellis, Lambert and Waigo.

Another one, Murty, would have started but is injured.

With such a phalanx of new players, it’s going to take time to gel all the new faces.

OK, with minus 10, Saints haven’t got too much time.

But, lest we forget, we’ve only had ten and a half hours of league football this season.

Can any manager be judged after that short a period?

Of course not – though it has started to happen at Saints’ fellow strugglers Tranmere where fans have already started to call for John Barnes’ sacking.

There are different expectations at St Mary’s. Better players, better resources.

That creates bigger expectations.

But there is nothing wrong with that.

Pardew has been allowed to bring in the players he’s wanted – eight of them, in all – and his own backroom staff.

The relative patience afforded him so far won’t last forever, and he will know that.

With Saints in League One and on minus points, his honeymoon period was never going to be a long one.

That is why this weekend’s home clash with Yeovil is a crucial one.

It isn’t a must win – there’s no promotion, relegation or play-offs riding on it.

But in order to give the players confidence – and possibly more importantly to an extent, to give the fans confidence in Pardew and his squad – Saints really need to win on Saturday against a side that have drawn three and lost five of their last eight league and cup games.

Saints shouldn’t beat Yeovil because of the two clubs’ vastly differing histories, traditions and fanbases.

They should win because they have got a far bigger and far better squad, full of players who would walk into Championship teams.

THAT is why questions will start to be asked if Saints don’t win this weekend ... … because they don’t really have any excuses not to.

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5:47pm Wed 16 Sep 09

gosportsaint says...

About time this story was put up. If the Echo is aware of it, then you bet the team are. Whow, that's going to improve confidence.
Come on people support your team and get behind the manager

sw blue-fall
About time this story was put up. If the Echo is aware of it, then you bet the team are. Whow, that's going to improve confidence. Come on people support your team and get behind the manager sw blue-fall gosportsaint
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5:50pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Rich, London says...

Spot on article. Well done Echo
Spot on article. Well done Echo Rich, London
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5:58pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific.....

Because he chops and changed the team for every game?

Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league.

Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead?

Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club"

Shall i go on?
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on? Lyrical Dancer
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5:59pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Sadoldgitte says...

Good start but what happened at the end? If we shouldn't judge Pardew now why is it okay to judge him after Saturday's game? It is only September and he has still yet to start a match with his recent signings.
Good start but what happened at the end? If we shouldn't judge Pardew now why is it okay to judge him after Saturday's game? It is only September and he has still yet to start a match with his recent signings. Sadoldgitte
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6:05pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Saint Madcap says...

I must agree with Rich a very good article from the Echo(at last!).
Give the bloke a chance, as a club we are planning for the future so we NEED stability.
This we will not get by "Ruperting" the manager so soon into the season.

Come on AP & COYR.
I must agree with Rich a very good article from the Echo(at last!). Give the bloke a chance, as a club we are planning for the future so we NEED stability. This we will not get by "Ruperting" the manager so soon into the season. Come on AP & COYR. Saint Madcap
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6:12pm Wed 16 Sep 09

truelysaints says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Agree, and he will be running out of excuses soon
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Agree, and he will be running out of excuses soon truelysaints
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6:22pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Rayzor - St Denys says...

Well done Echo for saying what the majority of Saints supporters are thinking. Shut up boo boys!
Well done Echo for saying what the majority of Saints supporters are thinking. Shut up boo boys! Rayzor - St Denys
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6:23pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint-barnard says...

THANKYOU ECHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AT LAST! Something worth being up on the echo website!

So many of us on this site and the forums have been trying to get this message across to the (albeit a minority) fools who just dont get it!

This aint gonna do any good for the team or Pards though!

The ones that matter, are united!

The Future's bright, It's Red & White!

ALAN PARDEW'S RED & WHITE ARMY!

For those 1diots who have been on about sacking pards, your an embarresment to this club... Sort yourselves out and get some sense!
THANKYOU ECHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT LAST! Something worth being up on the echo website! So many of us on this site and the forums have been trying to get this message across to the (albeit a minority) fools who just dont get it! This aint gonna do any good for the team or Pards though! The ones that matter, are united! The Future's bright, It's Red & White! ALAN PARDEW'S RED & WHITE ARMY! For those 1diots who have been on about sacking pards, your an embarresment to this club... Sort yourselves out and get some sense! saint-barnard
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6:25pm Wed 16 Sep 09

realistic lover says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Thats a good place to start rupert.

I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion.

Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster realistic lover
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6:28pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

realistic lover wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Thats a good place to start rupert.

I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion.

Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster
About time you moved to Didcot?

How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment?

I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough.
[quote][p][bold]realistic lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster[/p][/quote]About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough. Lyrical Dancer
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6:42pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Ludacris says...

Yep i agree well done Echo all true and all written on here loads of times by people who live in the real world and understand football... Its about time we gave a manager some support and respect and give them the chance to do their job. ..The first win is days away now and plenty more will follow.. top half by the new year easy..
SW form-jump ..spot on..
Yep i agree well done Echo all true and all written on here loads of times by people who live in the real world and understand football... Its about time we gave a manager some support and respect and give them the chance to do their job. ..The first win is days away now and plenty more will follow.. top half by the new year easy.. SW form-jump ..spot on.. Ludacris
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6:48pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Big Deuche says...

How these people have such short memories. Just a couple of months ago Southampton Football Club was on the brink of extinction. Selling off players to stay afloat. Thankfully we were saved but the season was almost upon us. Then with a change of manager we could all believe again. But none of this meant all was perfect. Alan Pardew has revealed that the club were without scouts. Got rid of by Lowe. It is the scouts who give the manager the run down on the opposition. Without that information he is planning in the dark. Also, with new players coming in any side would need time to gel.
At the start of the season it was obvious we were several weeks behind the others in our prep. But we can surly see that with each match we are getting stronger and better. The failure to score goals and hold onto a lead are problems that needs to be solved but it will happen, and when it do, those doubters will forget their idiotic lack of understanding just like they forgot how bad things were
How these people have such short memories. Just a couple of months ago Southampton Football Club was on the brink of extinction. Selling off players to stay afloat. Thankfully we were saved but the season was almost upon us. Then with a change of manager we could all believe again. But none of this meant all was perfect. Alan Pardew has revealed that the club were without scouts. Got rid of by Lowe. It is the scouts who give the manager the run down on the opposition. Without that information he is planning in the dark. Also, with new players coming in any side would need time to gel. At the start of the season it was obvious we were several weeks behind the others in our prep. But we can surly see that with each match we are getting stronger and better. The failure to score goals and hold onto a lead are problems that needs to be solved but it will happen, and when it do, those doubters will forget their idiotic lack of understanding just like they forgot how bad things were Big Deuche
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6:48pm Wed 16 Sep 09

IanRRR says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
realistic lover wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster
About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough.
It was only a matter of time before one of those "blue" people from down the coast tried to hijack our message boards. After all, we have given them plenty of stick recently.
Take no notice Pards, we are all with you and appreciate your hard work. Good article Echo. Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realistic lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster[/p][/quote]About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough. [/p][/quote]It was only a matter of time before one of those "blue" people from down the coast tried to hijack our message boards. After all, we have given them plenty of stick recently. Take no notice Pards, we are all with you and appreciate your hard work. Good article Echo. Thank you. IanRRR
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6:48pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Folkestone Saint says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
I didn't see your name on the short list for the managers job so either you didn't apply because your not good enough, or St marys thought you were not worth a mention, Keep your negativity out of St Marys we don't need you.
I think Simon made some very good points apart from the last paragraph, but lets keep this real we started on the back foot but have started to end the losing habit on a regular basis
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]I didn't see your name on the short list for the managers job so either you didn't apply because your not good enough, or St marys thought you were not worth a mention, Keep your negativity out of St Marys we don't need you. I think Simon made some very good points apart from the last paragraph, but lets keep this real we started on the back foot but have started to end the losing habit on a regular basis Folkestone Saint
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6:49pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint gee says...

Hi all

Basically any new manager should always be given time to stamp his own style of play into his new sqaud,
that said 8 signings and 7 games down the line the honeymoon period is well and truly over.
Saturday is a must win especially seeing were at home, nothing else will do time for our winning run to start. Saying that with only a average of a goal a game, could it be we still need another proven goal scorer, I do realise we just got whats his name but i still think we may need one more(Mifsud available and would do damage in L1)

I love this club more then my own family I think lol, bring on the good times COYR
Hi all Basically any new manager should always be given time to stamp his own style of play into his new sqaud, that said 8 signings and 7 games down the line the honeymoon period is well and truly over. Saturday is a must win especially seeing were at home, nothing else will do time for our winning run to start. Saying that with only a average of a goal a game, could it be we still need another proven goal scorer, I do realise we just got whats his name but i still think we may need one more(Mifsud available and would do damage in L1) I love this club more then my own family I think lol, bring on the good times COYR saint gee
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6:50pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Jesus_02 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific.....

Because he chops and changed the team for every game?

Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league.

Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead?

Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club"

Shall i go on?
please don't... if you expected us to start like Charlton...I like the majority of fans will reserve judgement and try not to put unnecessary pressure on the team.

I was quite optimistic about our chances on Saturday but the more this is built up as a must win last chance for Pardew the less confident I get. God knows how I will feel if we are only 1 goal up after 60 mins
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]please don't... if you expected us to start like Charlton...I like the majority of fans will reserve judgement and try not to put unnecessary pressure on the team. I was quite optimistic about our chances on Saturday but the more this is built up as a must win last chance for Pardew the less confident I get. God knows how I will feel if we are only 1 goal up after 60 mins Jesus_02
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6:51pm Wed 16 Sep 09

realistic lover says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
realistic lover wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster
About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough.
lol. i've been to all of em.
who you suggest we recruit to replace pardew then??
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realistic lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster[/p][/quote]About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough. [/p][/quote]lol. i've been to all of em. who you suggest we recruit to replace pardew then?? realistic lover
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6:53pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Rich, London says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
realistic lover wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster
About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough.
No one is saying it is
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realistic lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Thats a good place to start rupert. I thought this was an excellent article for once, and would like to think it will promote discussion. Pardew can be a great manager for us. I agree we need a win, now, but changing manager isn't going to achieve it any faster[/p][/quote]About time you moved to Didcot? How many games have you been to this season to be able to comment? I dont think 5pts from those 7 games is good enough. [/p][/quote]No one is saying it is Rich, London
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6:59pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Im no 'blue'

The jury is still out on Pardew, big style IMO.

The brink of extinction point is utter utter b0ll0cks though, so what? That was months ago, we have a club. End of.

The saints fans mentality seems to be to settle for what we can get rather than strive for better.

I dont want AP out, i just want him to buck his ideas up and not 'do a Charlton' to us. So far the stuff the charlton fans threw in his direction seem remarkably familiar.......
Im no 'blue' The jury is still out on Pardew, big style IMO. The brink of extinction point is utter utter b0ll0cks though, so what? That was months ago, we have a club. End of. The saints fans mentality seems to be to settle for what we can get rather than strive for better. I dont want AP out, i just want him to buck his ideas up and not 'do a Charlton' to us. So far the stuff the charlton fans threw in his direction seem remarkably familiar....... Lyrical Dancer
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7:03pm Wed 16 Sep 09

BenChamberlain1976 says...

Its called re building a team. It takes time and patience. Look at the players we have got here now. AP said he was a month behind after first game of the season. Anything is better than last season. We need to reunite as a club and build again. Is there a better manger that would take the job in league one and minus ten. COYR
Its called re building a team. It takes time and patience. Look at the players we have got here now. AP said he was a month behind after first game of the season. Anything is better than last season. We need to reunite as a club and build again. Is there a better manger that would take the job in league one and minus ten. COYR BenChamberlain1976
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7:06pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Melodic says...

If these Negative boo boys add been in charge at Man utd the 1st two seasons with Alex FERGUSON,HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE DOLE,MANAGERS NEED TIME AND CLUBS NEED STABILITY...
If these Negative boo boys add been in charge at Man utd the 1st two seasons with Alex FERGUSON,HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE DOLE,MANAGERS NEED TIME AND CLUBS NEED STABILITY... Melodic
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7:14pm Wed 16 Sep 09

joelster77 says...

always the pessimist is probably having a mental breakdown!
always the pessimist is probably having a mental breakdown! joelster77
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7:15pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

with the money and players AP has bought in, i expect more, and fast
with the money and players AP has bought in, i expect more, and fast Lyrical Dancer
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7:16pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Beeno says...

As new supporter of Saints and having moved to the city prior to the bankruptcy is surprises me that fans want to blame the coach, first fill the stadium and create the cashflow then we can see saints grow, sacking managers just cost money.Like throwing good after bad.Alan will be good for Saints just give him time and support.
As new supporter of Saints and having moved to the city prior to the bankruptcy is surprises me that fans want to blame the coach, first fill the stadium and create the cashflow then we can see saints grow, sacking managers just cost money.Like throwing good after bad.Alan will be good for Saints just give him time and support. Beeno
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7:28pm Wed 16 Sep 09

normsted says...

If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?.
I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again.
You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do.
Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out.
Shame on you-were you bored today ?
If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?. I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again. You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do. Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out. Shame on you-were you bored today ? normsted
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8:03pm Wed 16 Sep 09

joelster77 says...

normsted wrote:
If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?. I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again. You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do. Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out. Shame on you-were you bored today ?
oh calm down, do you really think that he is trying to stir up the minority? Read the article its obvous he is trying to put them in their place.
way to go!
[quote][p][bold]normsted[/bold] wrote: If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?. I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again. You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do. Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out. Shame on you-were you bored today ? [/p][/quote]oh calm down, do you really think that he is trying to stir up the minority? Read the article its obvous he is trying to put them in their place. way to go! joelster77
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8:04pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

great article (except for the last bit imo).
the echo ARE reading our comments,as they publish a cross section every day.
they have picked up on the deliberate pessimism and are commenting on that.
people who gain pleasure from looking for the negative aspects are not wanted at our club !
slag us optomists off all you like,you will never win !!
COYR
great article (except for the last bit imo). the echo ARE reading our comments,as they publish a cross section every day. they have picked up on the deliberate pessimism and are commenting on that. people who gain pleasure from looking for the negative aspects are not wanted at our club ! slag us optomists off all you like,you will never win !! COYR slugger
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8:05pm Wed 16 Sep 09

holmesy1995 says...

lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!!
lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!! holmesy1995
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8:07pm Wed 16 Sep 09

holmesy1995 says...

slugger wrote:
great article (except for the last bit imo). the echo ARE reading our comments,as they publish a cross section every day. they have picked up on the deliberate pessimism and are commenting on that. people who gain pleasure from looking for the negative aspects are not wanted at our club ! slag us optomists off all you like,you will never win !! COYR
once again slugger, i totally agree
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: great article (except for the last bit imo). the echo ARE reading our comments,as they publish a cross section every day. they have picked up on the deliberate pessimism and are commenting on that. people who gain pleasure from looking for the negative aspects are not wanted at our club ! slag us optomists off all you like,you will never win !! COYR[/p][/quote]once again slugger, i totally agree holmesy1995
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8:14pm Wed 16 Sep 09

gosportsaint says...

At least our owner hasn't got to go to America with the begging bowl to get money.
It doesn't matter how pesimistic some of our supporters are, at least they're not suicidal like the sh1t down the road
At least our owner hasn't got to go to America with the begging bowl to get money. It doesn't matter how pesimistic some of our supporters are, at least they're not suicidal like the sh1t down the road gosportsaint
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8:22pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

gosportsaint wrote:
At least our owner hasn't got to go to America with the begging bowl to get money. It doesn't matter how pesimistic some of our supporters are, at least they're not suicidal like the sh1t down the road
hello gosportsaint.
cheers for sticking up for me(and you)earlier.
no moaners excuses on this thread .
it's us against them .
let's do it !!!!
[quote][p][bold]gosportsaint[/bold] wrote: At least our owner hasn't got to go to America with the begging bowl to get money. It doesn't matter how pesimistic some of our supporters are, at least they're not suicidal like the sh1t down the road[/p][/quote]hello gosportsaint. cheers for sticking up for me(and you)earlier. no moaners excuses on this thread . it's us against them . let's do it !!!! slugger
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8:29pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

sorry ! got a bit carried away there.
sorry ! got a bit carried away there. slugger
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8:38pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Saints4Eva says...

SAINTS fans, answer the following questions:-

1) Are you happy with the signings AP has made? - Yes we now have a decent looking spine to the team - KD in goal, 2 good centre-backs, Hammond in midfield and Lambert up-front. I'm sure most would agree this is a vast improvement on the team of the last two seasons.
2) Has he not tried to address the weak areas in the team? Yes combined with the players mentioned above, Dan Harding is a better at left-back than Rudi or Drew IMO.
3) Are the team playing better football to watch? YES IMO the football played against Birmingham in the Carling Cup is the best I have seen us play in the last couple of seasons.
4) Are the majority of SAINTS fans happy with the progress that has been made since the takeover? YES, AP has been playing catch-up, give him time for goodness sake.
Re-building a Club and team takes time and doesn't happen overnight.

Here's to 3 points on Saturday and let's get behind the lads.

Hopefully Papa will be dancing along with the fans.
SAINTS fans, answer the following questions:- 1) Are you happy with the signings AP has made? - Yes we now have a decent looking spine to the team - KD in goal, 2 good centre-backs, Hammond in midfield and Lambert up-front. I'm sure most would agree this is a vast improvement on the team of the last two seasons. 2) Has he not tried to address the weak areas in the team? Yes combined with the players mentioned above, Dan Harding is a better at left-back than Rudi or Drew IMO. 3) Are the team playing better football to watch? YES IMO the football played against Birmingham in the Carling Cup is the best I have seen us play in the last couple of seasons. 4) Are the majority of SAINTS fans happy with the progress that has been made since the takeover? YES, AP has been playing catch-up, give him time for goodness sake. Re-building a Club and team takes time and doesn't happen overnight. Here's to 3 points on Saturday and let's get behind the lads. Hopefully Papa will be dancing along with the fans. Saints4Eva
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8:45pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

holmesy1995 wrote:
lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!!
99%, you sure about that?

Disgrace? For not settling for our poor start? oook then.......

Not sure where you got pompous from either.

Go happy clap elsewhere, maybe on the saintsweb forum, you would fit in with a few.

Oh, ad are you short by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]holmesy1995[/bold] wrote: lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!![/p][/quote]99%, you sure about that? Disgrace? For not settling for our poor start? oook then....... Not sure where you got pompous from either. Go happy clap elsewhere, maybe on the saintsweb forum, you would fit in with a few. Oh, ad are you short by any chance? Lyrical Dancer
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8:48pm Wed 16 Sep 09

StPete says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific.....

Because he chops and changed the team for every game?

Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league.

Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead?

Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club"

Shall i go on?
Please don't go on. You're boring me.

Why are some fans losing patience already?... Either because they're some of the most fickle fans in England, or they're not quite clever enough to understand football
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Please don't go on. You're boring me. Why are some fans losing patience already?... Either because they're some of the most fickle fans in England, or they're not quite clever enough to understand football StPete
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8:49pm Wed 16 Sep 09

gosportsaint says...

Saints4Eva wrote:
SAINTS fans, answer the following questions:- 1) Are you happy with the signings AP has made? - Yes we now have a decent looking spine to the team - KD in goal, 2 good centre-backs, Hammond in midfield and Lambert up-front. I'm sure most would agree this is a vast improvement on the team of the last two seasons. 2) Has he not tried to address the weak areas in the team? Yes combined with the players mentioned above, Dan Harding is a better at left-back than Rudi or Drew IMO. 3) Are the team playing better football to watch? YES IMO the football played against Birmingham in the Carling Cup is the best I have seen us play in the last couple of seasons. 4) Are the majority of SAINTS fans happy with the progress that has been made since the takeover? YES, AP has been playing catch-up, give him time for goodness sake. Re-building a Club and team takes time and doesn't happen overnight. Here's to 3 points on Saturday and let's get behind the lads. Hopefully Papa will be dancing along with the fans.
5. Have the burgers improved, No, and why do they take my bottle top.
Come on A.P sign Gordon Ramsey

sw slow-meal
[quote][p][bold]Saints4Eva[/bold] wrote: SAINTS fans, answer the following questions:- 1) Are you happy with the signings AP has made? - Yes we now have a decent looking spine to the team - KD in goal, 2 good centre-backs, Hammond in midfield and Lambert up-front. I'm sure most would agree this is a vast improvement on the team of the last two seasons. 2) Has he not tried to address the weak areas in the team? Yes combined with the players mentioned above, Dan Harding is a better at left-back than Rudi or Drew IMO. 3) Are the team playing better football to watch? YES IMO the football played against Birmingham in the Carling Cup is the best I have seen us play in the last couple of seasons. 4) Are the majority of SAINTS fans happy with the progress that has been made since the takeover? YES, AP has been playing catch-up, give him time for goodness sake. Re-building a Club and team takes time and doesn't happen overnight. Here's to 3 points on Saturday and let's get behind the lads. Hopefully Papa will be dancing along with the fans. [/p][/quote]5. Have the burgers improved, No, and why do they take my bottle top. Come on A.P sign Gordon Ramsey sw slow-meal gosportsaint
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8:51pm Wed 16 Sep 09

holmesy1995 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
holmesy1995 wrote: lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!!
99%, you sure about that? Disgrace? For not settling for our poor start? oook then....... Not sure where you got pompous from either. Go happy clap elsewhere, maybe on the saintsweb forum, you would fit in with a few. Oh, ad are you short by any chance?
i know for a fact near enough every saints fan is behind pardew, but then we get the odd muppet like you. every fan needs to pull together and stick behind the lads. as for happy clapping, im not happy about our start but pards has rebuilt our squad and now we will start a winning run. i bet you were one of the idiots complaining about a point at charlton. once again a few saints fans baffle me
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy1995[/bold] wrote: lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!![/p][/quote]99%, you sure about that? Disgrace? For not settling for our poor start? oook then....... Not sure where you got pompous from either. Go happy clap elsewhere, maybe on the saintsweb forum, you would fit in with a few. Oh, ad are you short by any chance?[/p][/quote]i know for a fact near enough every saints fan is behind pardew, but then we get the odd muppet like you. every fan needs to pull together and stick behind the lads. as for happy clapping, im not happy about our start but pards has rebuilt our squad and now we will start a winning run. i bet you were one of the idiots complaining about a point at charlton. once again a few saints fans baffle me holmesy1995
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8:56pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Decent point @ Charlton, just continued a worrying trend of failing to hold out a lead and conceding goals from crosses
Decent point @ Charlton, just continued a worrying trend of failing to hold out a lead and conceding goals from crosses Lyrical Dancer
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8:59pm Wed 16 Sep 09

wings of a sparrow says...

Lets face it the team that got us relagated was not up to much, and i dont think it wouldve done that well in league one. AP has had to try n get a decent team together in a very short space of time. How long was there between him being appointed and the start of the season? Give the man a chance
Lets face it the team that got us relagated was not up to much, and i dont think it wouldve done that well in league one. AP has had to try n get a decent team together in a very short space of time. How long was there between him being appointed and the start of the season? Give the man a chance wings of a sparrow
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9:06pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Spirit of 58 says...

Plenty of room at Fratton if you boo boys have all lost faith in our club - otherwise all true Saints get down to St Marys on Saturday and cheer the lads on to our first win - unless you were born with a silver spoon most people would figure out life goes in cycles and in a few years we will be back to our rightful place as he leading club on the South Coast.
COYR
Plenty of room at Fratton if you boo boys have all lost faith in our club - otherwise all true Saints get down to St Marys on Saturday and cheer the lads on to our first win - unless you were born with a silver spoon most people would figure out life goes in cycles and in a few years we will be back to our rightful place as he leading club on the South Coast. COYR Spirit of 58
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9:06pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Channonite says...

I think the comments after the story only go to prove Simon Carter's point.

Some people seem to have the attention span of a Goldfish.

This team has been assembled from the wreckage in a very short space of time. Now AP has to get the team to gel. The goalkeeper and back four pick themselves, now to concentrate on getting the midfield to function.

One step at a time.

This team is going to be VERY good.

I think the comments after the story only go to prove Simon Carter's point. Some people seem to have the attention span of a Goldfish. This team has been assembled from the wreckage in a very short space of time. Now AP has to get the team to gel. The goalkeeper and back four pick themselves, now to concentrate on getting the midfield to function. One step at a time. This team is going to be VERY good. Channonite
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9:10pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

VERY good?Says who?
VERY good?Says who? Lyrical Dancer
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9:14pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

love this thread !
give the moaners a virtual kicking !
in all honesty they are lost amongst "true fans ", being realistic,
YES optomistic fans ARE realistic !
The ," must win all games" are the true unrealistic ones !!
love this thread ! give the moaners a virtual kicking ! in all honesty they are lost amongst "true fans ", being realistic, YES optomistic fans ARE realistic ! The ," must win all games" are the true unrealistic ones !! slugger
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9:18pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
VERY good?Says who?
Say's Saints fans all over !!!
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: VERY good?Says who?[/p][/quote]Say's Saints fans all over !!! slugger
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9:19pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

Well done to the Echo, ill probably get moaned at now. Get told to get a taxi
Well done to the Echo, ill probably get moaned at now. Get told to get a taxi saint_luke
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9:25pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

joelster77 wrote:
normsted wrote: If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?. I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again. You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do. Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out. Shame on you-were you bored today ?
oh calm down, do you really think that he is trying to stir up the minority? Read the article its obvous he is trying to put them in their place. way to go!
They have been very very quiet on this today, their are some on the saints supporters facebook group wanting Roy Keane. I couldn't believe it he stuck two fingers up at the Northam when we dropped from the top. Remember!!!!! I should name and shame these people on here.
[quote][p][bold]joelster77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]normsted[/bold] wrote: If these are the negative opinions of the minority,which I think they are, why give the moaners such a platform and voice ?. I thought the echo articles during the "dark days" were atrocious, and this article is like the petulant child looking to cause trouble again. You should not be giving tabloid space to the negativity of the minority,just ignore them,all the true supporters do. Any saints fans reading it I hope will see it for what it is-a blatant attempt to escalate the minorities voice into an issue-dont let them load the gun boys . Ap is doing a great job.Mr carter you have been found out. Shame on you-were you bored today ? [/p][/quote]oh calm down, do you really think that he is trying to stir up the minority? Read the article its obvous he is trying to put them in their place. way to go![/p][/quote]They have been very very quiet on this today, their are some on the saints supporters facebook group wanting Roy Keane. I couldn't believe it he stuck two fingers up at the Northam when we dropped from the top. Remember!!!!! I should name and shame these people on here. saint_luke
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9:27pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Spirit of 58 says...

Get a taxi to St Marys mate and cheer the lads on - we will succeed
Get a taxi to St Marys mate and cheer the lads on - we will succeed Spirit of 58
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9:30pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Nothing to say says...

Sadly, some Saints fans are just fecking morons and their views should be totally ignored. In fact, I'd ban the whingers from St Mary's altogether as their negativity is poisonous to the team getting results.
Sadly, some Saints fans are just fecking morons and their views should be totally ignored. In fact, I'd ban the whingers from St Mary's altogether as their negativity is poisonous to the team getting results. Nothing to say
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9:30pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote
at 20:50 on 14 September 2009
I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane)
Saint_luke wrote
at 17:22 yesterday
The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning.
Laurance Makibs says:
( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play?
Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote
at 21:42 yesterday
Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled.
Report
Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote
at 21:43 yesterday
That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all.
Report
Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report saint_luke
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9:32pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

saint_luke wrote:
Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report
This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though
[quote][p][bold]saint_luke[/bold] wrote: Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report [/p][/quote]This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though saint_luke
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9:37pm Wed 16 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

Spirit of 58 wrote:
Get a taxi to St Marys mate and cheer the lads on - we will succeed
Dont worry ill be their again!!!! No taxi needed!
[quote][p][bold]Spirit of 58[/bold] wrote: Get a taxi to St Marys mate and cheer the lads on - we will succeed [/p][/quote]Dont worry ill be their again!!!! No taxi needed! saint_luke
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9:38pm Wed 16 Sep 09

NZsaint says...

An indictment on English Football - definately.
An indictment on English Football - definately. NZsaint
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9:40pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Miltonroadend says...

real amanager fom scotland. He had had success with Aberdeen I recall. He went to Manchester United...he wasn't doing too well for a while...there was talk of him being given the push......
Sir Alex Ferguson .......

Lets think on the time when we did well: Mac -following on from Bates. Nicholl -following on from Mac ( at least we got a FA cup semi and stability) and then....Stachan..... Lets keep the faith guys!
real amanager fom scotland. He had had success with Aberdeen I recall. He went to Manchester United...he wasn't doing too well for a while...there was talk of him being given the push...... Sir Alex Ferguson ....... Lets think on the time when we did well: Mac -following on from Bates. Nicholl -following on from Mac ( at least we got a FA cup semi and stability) and then....Stachan..... Lets keep the faith guys! Miltonroadend
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9:50pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

saint_luke wrote:
saint_luke wrote: Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report
This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though
agreed.
think he's made it so long to sound intelligent.if you actually read it , it makes no sence whatsoever !!!
[quote][p][bold]saint_luke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_luke[/bold] wrote: Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report [/p][/quote]This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though[/p][/quote]agreed. think he's made it so long to sound intelligent.if you actually read it , it makes no sence whatsoever !!! slugger
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9:55pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

StPete wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific.....

Because he chops and changed the team for every game?

Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league.

Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead?

Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club"

Shall i go on?
Please don't go on. You're boring me.

Why are some fans losing patience already?... Either because they're some of the most fickle fans in England, or they're not quite clever enough to understand football
Actually St Pete you are right they are fickle and unfortunately many like cynical chancer are Thicko.

Many of the Fans overseas despite not getting to any games sub to Saints Player at stay up all night tuning in for games.

We listen to the opinions of those who travel every week to the away games that have have reported vast improvements since Huddersfield and Swindon.

If this person was at sms at all would have been amongst those that booed their own team off the field at sms... That was a disgusting filthy piece of behaviour akin to beating your pets and spitting on your children.. imho there's no place for people like that any where near Southampton Football Club.

Good fans can be constructively negative and don't have to agree but they always but they should have the decency to listen to expert opinion and the opinions of the vast majority that Saints are on an upward track.

The confidence is coming, the goals will be coming and Alan Pardew is doing a very good job, but if you really disagree do more than whinge share which tactic or decision you disagree with, mull it around a bit with other fans and learn a bit. Slagging for slagging sake is moronic and we all sick of it.

As for the last part above:
"THAT is why questions will start to be asked if Saints don’t win this weekend ... … because they don’t really have any excuses not to."
That is stirring for readers too as
We still have not had a game with a fully fit full strength side

Yes "They should win because they have got a far bigger and far better squad, full of players who would walk into Championship teams."

But Pards still has unaswered question of Waigo, Holmes, Gillett and Mills and it may take this game plus one more to get the new guys in.

Beating the wurzels will be a start and we really should BUT my optimism stays put until Leeds in Dec... 42 pts available I want min 30 pref 40 of them...

Get on board Southampton the juggernaut is about to roll.

COYR Up The Saint.
grump..now for me coffee ;p

Have a great week Fans
[quote][p][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]Please don't go on. You're boring me. Why are some fans losing patience already?... Either because they're some of the most fickle fans in England, or they're not quite clever enough to understand football[/p][/quote]Actually St Pete you are right they are fickle and unfortunately many like cynical chancer are Thicko. Many of the Fans overseas despite not getting to any games sub to Saints Player at stay up all night tuning in for games. We listen to the opinions of those who travel every week to the away games that have have reported vast improvements since Huddersfield and Swindon. If this person was at sms at all would have been amongst those that booed their own team off the field at sms... That was a disgusting filthy piece of behaviour akin to beating your pets and spitting on your children.. imho there's no place for people like that any where near Southampton Football Club. Good fans can be constructively negative and don't have to agree but they always but they should have the decency to listen to expert opinion and the opinions of the vast majority that Saints are on an upward track. The confidence is coming, the goals will be coming and Alan Pardew is doing a very good job, but if you really disagree do more than whinge share which tactic or decision you disagree with, mull it around a bit with other fans and learn a bit. Slagging for slagging sake is moronic and we all sick of it. As for the last part above: "THAT is why questions will start to be asked if Saints don’t win this weekend ... … because they don’t really have any excuses not to." That is stirring for readers too as We still have not had a game with a fully fit full strength side Yes "They should win because they have got a far bigger and far better squad, full of players who would walk into Championship teams." But Pards still has unaswered question of Waigo, Holmes, Gillett and Mills and it may take this game plus one more to get the new guys in. Beating the wurzels will be a start and we really should BUT my optimism stays put until Leeds in Dec... 42 pts available I want min 30 pref 40 of them... Get on board Southampton the juggernaut is about to roll. COYR Up The Saint. grump..now for me coffee ;p Have a great week Fans Tirau Dan
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10:04pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

gosport,if your'e still there.
where do you have a beer before the match ?
gosport,if your'e still there. where do you have a beer before the match ? slugger
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10:07pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

slugger wrote:
gosport,if your'e still there.
where do you have a beer before the match ?
Lol when I remortgage next year I'll be asking that :) good on you lads!!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: gosport,if your'e still there. where do you have a beer before the match ?[/p][/quote]Lol when I remortgage next year I'll be asking that :) good on you lads!! Tirau Dan
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10:11pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Saints84 says...

Well done echo.... lets shut the boo boys up and also shut all those fans who have a voice but dont come and cheers the boys on... its going to take time but we get there..

Good luck Pardew we all behind you and the mighty red and white arm
Well done echo.... lets shut the boo boys up and also shut all those fans who have a voice but dont come and cheers the boys on... its going to take time but we get there.. Good luck Pardew we all behind you and the mighty red and white arm Saints84
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10:15pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

Saints84 wrote:
Well done echo.... lets shut the boo boys up and also shut all those fans who have a voice but dont come and cheers the boys on... its going to take time but we get there..

Good luck Pardew we all behind you and the mighty red and white arm
lol hope you don't mind us overseas chiming in?
[quote][p][bold]Saints84[/bold] wrote: Well done echo.... lets shut the boo boys up and also shut all those fans who have a voice but dont come and cheers the boys on... its going to take time but we get there.. Good luck Pardew we all behind you and the mighty red and white arm[/p][/quote]lol hope you don't mind us overseas chiming in? Tirau Dan
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10:21pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

Dan,you are more of a fan than most people iv'e met in the flesh !
keep up the good work.
sfc forever,whatever !
Dan,you are more of a fan than most people iv'e met in the flesh ! keep up the good work. sfc forever,whatever ! slugger
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10:30pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Hatman says...

Curious article. It starts off saying sensible things about being patient but then, as others have commented, it builds Saturday up into a make or break game for AP and the club. But I guess it's important for editors not to offend any reader, whatever their view.

Ted Bates had it right when there were calls for McMenemy's head in his early days - you have to give a manager three years to build a team (unless he's too weak to do the job, which AP clearly isn't) (Dell Diamond, page 301).
Curious article. It starts off saying sensible things about being patient but then, as others have commented, it builds Saturday up into a make or break game for AP and the club. But I guess it's important for editors not to offend any reader, whatever their view. Ted Bates had it right when there were calls for McMenemy's head in his early days - you have to give a manager three years to build a team (unless he's too weak to do the job, which AP clearly isn't) (Dell Diamond, page 301). Hatman
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10:30pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

If they are crap i will boo.

I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season

If they play well, i will clap and cheer
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer Lyrical Dancer
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10:37pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
i'm sure that the management and players are hanging on to your every word !
nice to hear from somebody who's oppinion is valued !
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]i'm sure that the management and players are hanging on to your every word ! nice to hear from somebody who's oppinion is valued ! slugger
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10:38pm Wed 16 Sep 09

SaintHarry says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
well don't come then
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]well don't come then SaintHarry
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10:46pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo.

I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season

If they play well, i will clap and cheer
The crap is being worked out of them. Everyone can see it but a few of you slaggers. Save your money do the team and the city a huge favour and stay home. Your booing was heard around the world, it embarrassed the club and the city. The comment was "that is a shame just plain stupid after a much improved performance some people just won't see."
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]The crap is being worked out of them. Everyone can see it but a few of you slaggers. Save your money do the team and the city a huge favour and stay home. Your booing was heard around the world, it embarrassed the club and the city. The comment was "that is a shame just plain stupid after a much improved performance some people just won't see." Tirau Dan
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10:46pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
reading your post again,i think you're right !
you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !!
do you.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you. slugger
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10:49pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

slugger wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
reading your post again,i think you're right !
you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !!
do you.
Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you.[/p][/quote]Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers Tirau Dan
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11:01pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
slugger wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you.
Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers
at 4 in the morning ?
respect to you Dan !
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you.[/p][/quote]Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers[/p][/quote]at 4 in the morning ? respect to you Dan ! slugger
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11:10pm Wed 16 Sep 09

slugger says...

bed time !
good night all.
in the words of a famous person (can't remember who),
"don't let the b*ggers get you down"
bed time ! good night all. in the words of a famous person (can't remember who), "don't let the b*ggers get you down" slugger
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11:24pm Wed 16 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

slugger wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
slugger wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you.
Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers
at 4 in the morning ?
respect to you Dan !
Yes 4am finish.. Might even get in some scrumpy haha... nite nite!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]reading your post again,i think you're right ! you don't spend your hard earned money watching saints !! do you.[/p][/quote]Thanks and well said Slugger.. I'll raise my pint to you guys on Sat. Cheers[/p][/quote]at 4 in the morning ? respect to you Dan ![/p][/quote]Yes 4am finish.. Might even get in some scrumpy haha... nite nite! Tirau Dan
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11:33pm Wed 16 Sep 09

the third hardest man in sholing says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
yeah,carry on mate,we could sit all day and night bemoaning the choice of manager ,his tactics,choices etc,thats fine.The fact is whether you like it or not is Pardew is an experienced manager at all levels with success and promotions on his cv along with failures like Charlton and his sacking at West Ham....big deal...what do you want eh??? Capello??? Ferguson??.Get real loserface Pardew is a solid and sensible choice who hopefully will in time lift us out of this horror league.If it goes wrong then so be it..that happens,and onwards and upwards we hopefully go.Its your negativity is soooo depressing
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]yeah,carry on mate,we could sit all day and night bemoaning the choice of manager ,his tactics,choices etc,thats fine.The fact is whether you like it or not is Pardew is an experienced manager at all levels with success and promotions on his cv along with failures like Charlton and his sacking at West Ham....big deal...what do you want eh??? Capello??? Ferguson??.Get real loserface Pardew is a solid and sensible choice who hopefully will in time lift us out of this horror league.If it goes wrong then so be it..that happens,and onwards and upwards we hopefully go.Its your negativity is soooo depressing the third hardest man in sholing
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11:39pm Wed 16 Sep 09

offix says...

Ridiculous for a small minority (fortunately) to make these comments. There is real progression in the way the team plays, it is becoming more a more a strong unit, it clearly has Pardew's stamp on it.
This has been a horrible time for the Saints, and survival in this league looks more and more to be a good possibility, in spite of the 10 point deduction. That's ALL I expect this season, and the team looks like we can achieve that. I say "well done so far" to both Alan Pardew and the business management of the club
Ridiculous for a small minority (fortunately) to make these comments. There is real progression in the way the team plays, it is becoming more a more a strong unit, it clearly has Pardew's stamp on it. This has been a horrible time for the Saints, and survival in this league looks more and more to be a good possibility, in spite of the 10 point deduction. That's ALL I expect this season, and the team looks like we can achieve that. I say "well done so far" to both Alan Pardew and the business management of the club offix
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11:46pm Wed 16 Sep 09

gosportsaint says...

slugger wrote:
gosport,if your'e still there. where do you have a beer before the match ?
Sorry Slugger, fell asleep on the sofa, dreamt that Portsmouth got hit by a tidal wave.
Don't normally, usually in a rush to get to sms on a Sat from work. On leave this week, so will stop off about 1pm at New Bridge Inn
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: gosport,if your'e still there. where do you have a beer before the match ?[/p][/quote]Sorry Slugger, fell asleep on the sofa, dreamt that Portsmouth got hit by a tidal wave. Don't normally, usually in a rush to get to sms on a Sat from work. On leave this week, so will stop off about 1pm at New Bridge Inn gosportsaint
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11:52pm Wed 16 Sep 09

montecristosaint says...

It is hardly surprising that there is already disagreement amongst Saints fans as regards Alan Pardew.If we are honest his name would not have figured on most fans wish list and to be fair his recent record does not reccomend him.The management at St Marys took one heck of a risk in appointing him when there were far better qualified managers available.
**** to which the transfer window was a massive disappointment to many who will have hoped for money to have been made available. As it is Saints performance in the window suggested a club trying to put things right on a shoe string, with only Lambert costing seven figures.
Time will tell whether AP has been clever bringing in who he has and I for one hope he has.But let's not pretend that the scenario we now have is anything but one gigantic gamble.
It is hardly surprising that there is already disagreement amongst Saints fans as regards Alan Pardew.If we are honest his name would not have figured on most fans wish list and to be fair his recent record does not reccomend him.The management at St Marys took one heck of a risk in appointing him when there were far better qualified managers available. **** to which the transfer window was a massive disappointment to many who will have hoped for money to have been made available. As it is Saints performance in the window suggested a club trying to put things right on a shoe string, with only Lambert costing seven figures. Time will tell whether AP has been clever bringing in who he has and I for one hope he has.But let's not pretend that the scenario we now have is anything but one gigantic gamble. montecristosaint
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11:57pm Wed 16 Sep 09

gosportsaint says...

I felt very sad and angry at Charlton when just 3 or 4 idiots started chanting Pardew out. These idiots are the slackers at work and thicko's at school.
They are the one's that every boss thinks I wish I could sack those useless lazy bast@rds, and every colleague thinks they are taking the ficking p1ss.
Either support the team or fu£k off and support Manchester United
I felt very sad and angry at Charlton when just 3 or 4 idiots started chanting Pardew out. These idiots are the slackers at work and thicko's at school. They are the one's that every boss thinks I wish I could sack those useless lazy bast@rds, and every colleague thinks they are taking the ficking p1ss. Either support the team or fu£k off and support Manchester United gosportsaint
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12:31am Thu 17 Sep 09

random_sam69 says...

Guys guys guys, don't fight. We are all Southampton fans at the end of the day, don't accuse other fans of being skates. From here on out we must be united, we must make other fans cry at how loyal we are, whatever the situation. We are Southampton FC, we have had tough times galore in our history, even under Bates and Mac. But we are the Saints, we perform miracles thats what we do, what we have always done. The south coast shall be painted red and white from here on out, I think what we all need is a little sing song. *And it's all Southampton,
All Southampton FC,
We're by far the greatest team,
The world has ever seen...*
Guys guys guys, don't fight. We are all Southampton fans at the end of the day, don't accuse other fans of being skates. From here on out we must be united, we must make other fans cry at how loyal we are, whatever the situation. We are Southampton FC, we have had tough times galore in our history, even under Bates and Mac. But we are the Saints, we perform miracles thats what we do, what we have always done. The south coast shall be painted red and white from here on out, I think what we all need is a little sing song. *And it's all Southampton, All Southampton FC, We're by far the greatest team, The world has ever seen...* random_sam69
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1:46am Thu 17 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

montecristosaint wrote:
It is hardly surprising that there is already disagreement amongst Saints fans as regards Alan Pardew.If we are honest his name would not have figured on most fans wish list and to be fair his recent record does not reccomend him.The management at St Marys took one heck of a risk in appointing him when there were far better qualified managers available.
**** to which the transfer window was a massive disappointment to many who will have hoped for money to have been made available. As it is Saints performance in the window suggested a club trying to put things right on a shoe string, with only Lambert costing seven figures.
Time will tell whether AP has been clever bringing in who he has and I for one hope he has.But let's not pretend that the scenario we now have is anything but one gigantic gamble.
There isn't any disagreement amongst fans. Just a very few dissenters that disagree every week and want change for change sakes.

The team is now full of players with Championship potential and is coming together well.

From the 42pts to Leeds in Dec pick a number you'll be happy with and let's see if we get them.
Mine is 30 but all 42 is possible.
Come on folks think of the squad and the games ahead and pop a number down below from 0-42 let us see who is right... could be fun.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: It is hardly surprising that there is already disagreement amongst Saints fans as regards Alan Pardew.If we are honest his name would not have figured on most fans wish list and to be fair his recent record does not reccomend him.The management at St Marys took one heck of a risk in appointing him when there were far better qualified managers available. **** to which the transfer window was a massive disappointment to many who will have hoped for money to have been made available. As it is Saints performance in the window suggested a club trying to put things right on a shoe string, with only Lambert costing seven figures. Time will tell whether AP has been clever bringing in who he has and I for one hope he has.But let's not pretend that the scenario we now have is anything but one gigantic gamble. [/p][/quote]There isn't any disagreement amongst fans. Just a very few dissenters that disagree every week and want change for change sakes. The team is now full of players with Championship potential and is coming together well. From the 42pts to Leeds in Dec pick a number you'll be happy with and let's see if we get them. Mine is 30 but all 42 is possible. Come on folks think of the squad and the games ahead and pop a number down below from 0-42 let us see who is right... could be fun. Tirau Dan
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1:53am Thu 17 Sep 09

montechristoes says...

Changing people's opinions and attitudes on this site is no doubt hopeless, but do try to make the distinction between the situation we are in points-wise, the qualities of the players, the merits of the manager, and what is best for the team.

There is no question that we needed to have got more points on the board to get clearer of the relegation that is the likely result of the points deduction for any club. Some individual and collective performances have been below par(dew) - something we should judge aside from our artificial points position - but there are signs of improvement, and no sign that the team is not trying (the only circumstance justifying booing your team). The only justification for booing a player is if he is being consistently selfish; and you can be sure that the other players will have choice words for him, so what's the point? Calling for the manager's head only makes any sense if in your judgement (without hind-sight) he consistently fails to make reasonable use of the resources at his disposal - we can't judge and therefore say that.
Expressing dissatisfaction at a result, or at not getting 'value' for your ticket money, is something else. By all means do so, but not in a way that damages what we have.
Changing people's opinions and attitudes on this site is no doubt hopeless, but do try to make the distinction between the situation we are in points-wise, the qualities of the players, the merits of the manager, and what is best for the team. There is no question that we needed to have got more points on the board to get clearer of the relegation that is the likely result of the points deduction for any club. Some individual and collective performances have been below par(dew) - something we should judge aside from our artificial points position - but there are signs of improvement, and no sign that the team is not trying (the only circumstance justifying booing your team). The only justification for booing a player is if he is being consistently selfish; and you can be sure that the other players will have choice words for him, so what's the point? Calling for the manager's head only makes any sense if in your judgement (without hind-sight) he consistently fails to make reasonable use of the resources at his disposal - we can't judge and therefore say that. Expressing dissatisfaction at a result, or at not getting 'value' for your ticket money, is something else. By all means do so, but not in a way that damages what we have. montechristoes
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2:19am Thu 17 Sep 09

Tirau Dan says...

So answer : How many points do you think we'll have by leeds 0-42?

I'd like to gauge the regular posters optimism or Pessimism.
38/42 for me and a win over Leeds.


I'm also dreaming of a Trip in 4yrs to watch Saints play in Spain and watch Team NZ in the Am Cup too ;P
So answer : How many points do you think we'll have by leeds 0-42? I'd like to gauge the regular posters optimism or Pessimism. 38/42 for me and a win over Leeds. I'm also dreaming of a Trip in 4yrs to watch Saints play in Spain and watch Team NZ in the Am Cup too ;P Tirau Dan
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6:33am Thu 17 Sep 09

Andy_Germany says...

AP to go??? Are you kidding?? Or are you boo boys wearing blue underneath. How short your memories are. Get a grip, get behind AP and for goodness sake get behind the team. Do you want it all to go wrong just so u can say "told you so." You really cant be supporters.
AP to go??? Are you kidding?? Or are you boo boys wearing blue underneath. How short your memories are. Get a grip, get behind AP and for goodness sake get behind the team. Do you want it all to go wrong just so u can say "told you so." You really cant be supporters. Andy_Germany
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6:42am Thu 17 Sep 09

stmarysmush says...

Beeno wrote:
As new supporter of Saints and having moved to the city prior to the bankruptcy is surprises me that fans want to blame the coach, first fill the stadium and create the cashflow then we can see saints grow, sacking managers just cost money.Like throwing good after bad.Alan will be good for Saints just give him time and support.
Team then fill the ground. Too expensive just to go and watch rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Beeno[/bold] wrote: As new supporter of Saints and having moved to the city prior to the bankruptcy is surprises me that fans want to blame the coach, first fill the stadium and create the cashflow then we can see saints grow, sacking managers just cost money.Like throwing good after bad.Alan will be good for Saints just give him time and support. [/p][/quote]Team then fill the ground. Too expensive just to go and watch rubbish. stmarysmush
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7:00am Thu 17 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

slugger wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
saint_luke wrote: Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report
This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though
agreed. think he's made it so long to sound intelligent.if you actually read it , it makes no sence whatsoever !!!
Like i said when was the last time he was down their, still waiting on a reply
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_luke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_luke[/bold] wrote: Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 20:50 on 14 September 2009 I'm hearing unpleasant echoes of last season. Decent enough performances but no wins which was tolerated for reasons of stability and a slim hope that things could only get better. We gave Poortvliet till January to get his ship in shape but even then it was too late and we were caught with our dicks hanging out. If Pardew doesn't produce wins soon he needs to go, no question. Even with the "new manager bounce", a strong squad and a new sense of purpose at the club he can't even cobble together a win. Even without the -10 points we'd still be in the relegation zone and that just isn't good enough. Like Chris said the out of work managerial pool isn't exactly brimming at the moment, but I reckon it's only a few weeks till clubs start getting trigger happy with the firings, that should give Pardew the required time to get his act together, and if not it should give us a wider selection of managers to choose from to replace him (my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Saint_luke wrote at 17:22 yesterday The people who are calling for pardew head are plastic premier fans. They still cant get over the fact that we are no longer there anymore, Pardew has done this before at this level. Portveillt or watever his name is was on the cheap because we were broke, we just had a excellent result away at charlton, unbeaten in four. So stop your moaning. Laurance Makibs says: ( my divination stick points towards Roy Keane) Why the hell would you pick him he has been worse than Pardew, and he would walk out if he couldn't get his own way. When was the last time you saw saints play? Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:42 yesterday Well you say that only a few managers can turn a faltering side and turn them into winners. So how would you classify Roy taking Sunderland from bottom of the table to Championship winners in the space of a season? Roy Keane is complicated and I believe that his successes and failures as a manager are a result of his complexities and how he judges himself as a winner or a loser. He had the odds stacked against him initially at Sunderland, but when Niall Quinn gave him free reign and £££ it blunted him because he found the odds were on his side and when he started struggling he had nobody to blame but himself and he folded. The odds are on his side at Ipswich, he’s flush with new money and expected to do well and he’s festering because of it. He needs a fight against the odds to be at his best. He will not accept mid table mediocrity. Keane needs to take something broken and then fix it to be at his best, not to just jumpstart it after its stalled. Report Laurence Makins (Grammar School and Sixth Form Centre) wrote at 21:43 yesterday That is why I mooted him for the job. I don’t want to join any anti-Pardew band wagon, but sometimes you’ve got to take the blinkers off and admit that things aren’t working. I want what’s best for Southampton and I acknowledge that what is best is a period of stability. But stability is not worth the price of putting up with a manger who isn’t performing and the slim chance things might get better. Surely we learnt that last season. Like I said earlier, I’ll sit on Pardew till October and if he starts bringing home 3 points I’ll eat my words and a slice of humble pie to boot, but if he doesn’t he has to go, it’s as simple as that. If this opinion makes me a plastic fan then so be it. I’d rather be a plastic fan and yearn for life in the Premiership, and success for the club at any level rather than somebody who doesn’t; which makes them no fan at all. Report [/p][/quote]This is the worst one ive come across! I asked him if he comes to watch saints since the Premier League i still await my reply sorry for it being so long, i think some of you might find it amusing though[/p][/quote]agreed. think he's made it so long to sound intelligent.if you actually read it , it makes no sence whatsoever !!![/p][/quote]Like i said when was the last time he was down their, still waiting on a reply saint_luke
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7:31am Thu 17 Sep 09

batesieboy says...

All the article did was summarise what the majority of sane Saints fans have been posting on here since the Charlton game. I am reserving judgement for another six games, but I expect at least 12 of the available 18 points. Or else I will hit the panic button and join the miseries!! I will say 30 out of 42, Dan, then a draw with Leeds.
All the article did was summarise what the majority of sane Saints fans have been posting on here since the Charlton game. I am reserving judgement for another six games, but I expect at least 12 of the available 18 points. Or else I will hit the panic button and join the miseries!! I will say 30 out of 42, Dan, then a draw with Leeds. batesieboy
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7:55am Thu 17 Sep 09

peachy1 says...

Proves my point that only a handful of Real Supporters realise the true extent of the damage been done to this club.

What Astounds me is the lack of understanding of Not Only of the game of football and the lack of intelligence required to see what is trying to be achieved at Saints.

But the so called supporters who think they have the god given rite to shout for heads to roll because we have a not won a game yet You will be the reason this club will never get back up the leagues

You will be the reason this club loses another Good manager

AP is about 5 weeks behind all the other managers in getting his team to play for those of you who travelled to Charlton you may recall we actually did really well It is coming together. You must be more patient let the manager do his Job Judge him in May next year
Proves my point that only a handful of Real Supporters realise the true extent of the damage been done to this club. What Astounds me is the lack of understanding of Not Only of the game of football and the lack of intelligence required to see what is trying to be achieved at Saints. But the so called supporters who think they have the god given rite to shout for heads to roll because we have a not won a game yet You will be the reason this club will never get back up the leagues You will be the reason this club loses another Good manager AP is about 5 weeks behind all the other managers in getting his team to play for those of you who travelled to Charlton you may recall we actually did really well It is coming together. You must be more patient let the manager do his Job Judge him in May next year peachy1
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8:12am Thu 17 Sep 09

SevillaSaint says...

Here, here. We were told at the start that this was going to take time. Give the man a chance. It's going to take a long time to sort out Rupert, Crouch and Wilde's mess but I see us heading in the right direction. Pards will be alright.
Here, here. We were told at the start that this was going to take time. Give the man a chance. It's going to take a long time to sort out Rupert, Crouch and Wilde's mess but I see us heading in the right direction. Pards will be alright. SevillaSaint
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8:35am Thu 17 Sep 09

saintsayer says...

batesieboy wrote:
All the article did was summarise what the majority of sane Saints fans have been posting on here since the Charlton game. I am reserving judgement for another six games, but I expect at least 12 of the available 18 points. Or else I will hit the panic button and join the miseries!! I will say 30 out of 42, Dan, then a draw with Leeds.
For me 28 points out of the 42 but dependingon other results that could put us a bout18/20 in the league making 15th for Christmas top 10 but not quite top 6 at the end
I have written this down and put it in a sealed envelope
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: All the article did was summarise what the majority of sane Saints fans have been posting on here since the Charlton game. I am reserving judgement for another six games, but I expect at least 12 of the available 18 points. Or else I will hit the panic button and join the miseries!! I will say 30 out of 42, Dan, then a draw with Leeds. [/p][/quote]For me 28 points out of the 42 but dependingon other results that could put us a bout18/20 in the league making 15th for Christmas top 10 but not quite top 6 at the end I have written this down and put it in a sealed envelope saintsayer
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8:42am Thu 17 Sep 09

adam1981 says...

yeh thanks echo for being morally correct,the same paper that prints these negative postings in their paper.

makes me laugh and really p@sses me off sometimes how when someone comes out with a negative comment they are automatically a skate or "support that lot down the road" or they're a total pr@ck and then when they respond to personal insults it's them that get ridiculed for being abusive,it's just plain and simple hypocritical when the do gooders do this,just want to ask whether the people that don't moan,did they moan when lowe was in charge? did they moan about branfoot or any other unsuccessful manager? if not then i say your lying and just trying to save face.

I personally do not want pardew sacked but thats not to say he is doing a good job and i fully understand where the so called moaners are coming from and just because they moan does not make them any less southampton fans,they're maybe just a little bit more realistic than you people who simply think nothing can go wrong because we were nearly out of business 2 months ago - god if i only i had a pound for everytime that was said,it's getting a bit old now! maybe we should all stop going on about that and concentrate on whats important - and thats now!!!
yeh thanks echo for being morally correct,the same paper that prints these negative postings in their paper. makes me laugh and really p@sses me off sometimes how when someone comes out with a negative comment they are automatically a skate or "support that lot down the road" or they're a total pr@ck and then when they respond to personal insults it's them that get ridiculed for being abusive,it's just plain and simple hypocritical when the do gooders do this,just want to ask whether the people that don't moan,did they moan when lowe was in charge? did they moan about branfoot or any other unsuccessful manager? if not then i say your lying and just trying to save face. I personally do not want pardew sacked but thats not to say he is doing a good job and i fully understand where the so called moaners are coming from and just because they moan does not make them any less southampton fans,they're maybe just a little bit more realistic than you people who simply think nothing can go wrong because we were nearly out of business 2 months ago - god if i only i had a pound for everytime that was said,it's getting a bit old now! maybe we should all stop going on about that and concentrate on whats important - and thats now!!! adam1981
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9:26am Thu 17 Sep 09

saint61 says...

QUESTION : what did we acheive over 30 years with 2 managers and a realistic chairman ?
ANSWER : stability, financial sound footing and a trophy or 2.
QUESTION : What did we acheive with a certain chairman on board and too many mangers over the past few years.
ANSWER : An FA cup Final, Shareholders taking profit (when it was there), a holding company that was bleeding us dry and administration.
Moral of story : AP needs time, backing and support. We need to be patient.
For us old guys who wanted Lawrie Mcmenemy out after his first half seaon in charge and Saints relegation . Most of us.

AP came into nothing has been there 2 months and was almost a summer behind every other club. He's got more passion and enthusiasm than we had at anytime last year, he needs at least a season and we need to get behind the whole club.
QUESTION : what did we acheive over 30 years with 2 managers and a realistic chairman ? ANSWER : stability, financial sound footing and a trophy or 2. QUESTION : What did we acheive with a certain chairman on board and too many mangers over the past few years. ANSWER : An FA cup Final, Shareholders taking profit (when it was there), a holding company that was bleeding us dry and administration. Moral of story : AP needs time, backing and support. We need to be patient. For us old guys who wanted Lawrie Mcmenemy out after his first half seaon in charge and Saints relegation . Most of us. AP came into nothing has been there 2 months and was almost a summer behind every other club. He's got more passion and enthusiasm than we had at anytime last year, he needs at least a season and we need to get behind the whole club. saint61
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9:28am Thu 17 Sep 09

saint61 says...

QUESTION : what did we acheive over 30 years with 2 managers and a realistic chairman ?
ANSWER : stability, financial sound footing and a trophy or 2.
QUESTION : What did we acheive with a certain chairman on board and too many mangers over the past few years.
ANSWER : An FA cup Final, Shareholders taking profit (when it was there), a holding company that was bleeding us dry and administration.
Moral of story : AP needs time, backing and support. We need to be patient.
For us old guys who wanted Lawrie Mcmenemy out after his first half seaon in charge and Saints relegation . Most of us.

AP came into nothing has been there 2 months and was almost a summer behind every other club. He's got more passion and enthusiasm than we had at anytime last year, he needs at least a season and we need to get behind the whole club.
QUESTION : what did we acheive over 30 years with 2 managers and a realistic chairman ? ANSWER : stability, financial sound footing and a trophy or 2. QUESTION : What did we acheive with a certain chairman on board and too many mangers over the past few years. ANSWER : An FA cup Final, Shareholders taking profit (when it was there), a holding company that was bleeding us dry and administration. Moral of story : AP needs time, backing and support. We need to be patient. For us old guys who wanted Lawrie Mcmenemy out after his first half seaon in charge and Saints relegation . Most of us. AP came into nothing has been there 2 months and was almost a summer behind every other club. He's got more passion and enthusiasm than we had at anytime last year, he needs at least a season and we need to get behind the whole club. saint61
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9:34am Thu 17 Sep 09

Stevie61163 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!! Stevie61163
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10:09am Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game.

I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
[quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason. Lyrical Dancer
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10:12am Thu 17 Sep 09

tolfree says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me.
Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence.
As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me. Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence. As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals. tolfree
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10:30am Thu 17 Sep 09

Allotment man 66 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
Now that's a very negative and defeatist attitude, you got to give Alan Pardew a chance to do his job, we have now a very good and strong team, and we will not be in a relegation battle this season.

With your attitude you can't be a very good fan and supporter.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]Now that's a very negative and defeatist attitude, you got to give Alan Pardew a chance to do his job, we have now a very good and strong team, and we will not be in a relegation battle this season. With your attitude you can't be a very good fan and supporter. Allotment man 66
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10:34am Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

tolfree wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me.
Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence.
As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals.
To clarify i only boo after the game if reqd. Last time i did was Huddersfield, before that Swindon. Both deserved, esp Swindon
[quote][p][bold]tolfree[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me. Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence. As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals.[/p][/quote]To clarify i only boo after the game if reqd. Last time i did was Huddersfield, before that Swindon. Both deserved, esp Swindon Lyrical Dancer
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10:40am Thu 17 Sep 09

Stevie61163 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!! Stevie61163
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10:44am Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!!
I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore.

I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not
[quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!! [/p][/quote]I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not Lyrical Dancer
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10:52am Thu 17 Sep 09

Stevie61163 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!!
I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not
i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!! [/p][/quote]I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not[/p][/quote]i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me. Stevie61163
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10:57am Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!!
I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not
i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me.
Wotton is utter carp, but no that was not me. I saved my booing for the end.
[quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!! [/p][/quote]I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not[/p][/quote]i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me. [/p][/quote]Wotton is utter carp, but no that was not me. I saved my booing for the end. Lyrical Dancer
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10:57am Thu 17 Sep 09

Jason D says...

On the whole an excellent article, thanks. Absolutely spot on.
On the whole an excellent article, thanks. Absolutely spot on. Jason D
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11:02am Thu 17 Sep 09

tolfree says...

then maybe you should just realise that's where many of us differ. As I said above, I believe the way to be a supporter of a team is to pick them up when they are down. the managers will change, the players will change, but the supporters will stay regardless. how on earth you can think it is acceptable to boo a new team (in all senses of the word) is beyond me. i was just trying to add to this by making you see where i come from - unconditional support during games.
then maybe you should just realise that's where many of us differ. As I said above, I believe the way to be a supporter of a team is to pick them up when they are down. the managers will change, the players will change, but the supporters will stay regardless. how on earth you can think it is acceptable to boo a new team (in all senses of the word) is beyond me. i was just trying to add to this by making you see where i come from - unconditional support during games. tolfree
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11:03am Thu 17 Sep 09

Jesus_02 says...

adam1981 wrote:
yeh thanks echo for being morally correct,the same paper that prints these negative postings in their paper.

makes me laugh and really p@sses me off sometimes how when someone comes out with a negative comment they are automatically a skate or "support that lot down the road" or they're a total pr@ck and then when they respond to personal insults it's them that get ridiculed for being abusive,it's just plain and simple hypocritical when the do gooders do this,just want to ask whether the people that don't moan,did they moan when lowe was in charge? did they moan about branfoot or any other unsuccessful manager? if not then i say your lying and just trying to save face.

I personally do not want pardew sacked but thats not to say he is doing a good job and i fully understand where the so called moaners are coming from and just because they moan does not make them any less southampton fans,they're maybe just a little bit more realistic than you people who simply think nothing can go wrong because we were nearly out of business 2 months ago - god if i only i had a pound for everytime that was said,it's getting a bit old now! maybe we should all stop going on about that and concentrate on whats important - and thats now!!!
i agree that it doesn't make them any less Southampton fans. It just makes them impatient and a little stupid.

Its just frustrating for those that feel while the club is going in the right direction, confidence and attitude is still extremely important.

For me Newcastle is a great example of how negativity can consume a club. No-one was ever good enough for the Geordie faithful (inc KK)
[quote][p][bold]adam1981[/bold] wrote: yeh thanks echo for being morally correct,the same paper that prints these negative postings in their paper. makes me laugh and really p@sses me off sometimes how when someone comes out with a negative comment they are automatically a skate or "support that lot down the road" or they're a total pr@ck and then when they respond to personal insults it's them that get ridiculed for being abusive,it's just plain and simple hypocritical when the do gooders do this,just want to ask whether the people that don't moan,did they moan when lowe was in charge? did they moan about branfoot or any other unsuccessful manager? if not then i say your lying and just trying to save face. I personally do not want pardew sacked but thats not to say he is doing a good job and i fully understand where the so called moaners are coming from and just because they moan does not make them any less southampton fans,they're maybe just a little bit more realistic than you people who simply think nothing can go wrong because we were nearly out of business 2 months ago - god if i only i had a pound for everytime that was said,it's getting a bit old now! maybe we should all stop going on about that and concentrate on whats important - and thats now!!![/p][/quote]i agree that it doesn't make them any less Southampton fans. It just makes them impatient and a little stupid. Its just frustrating for those that feel while the club is going in the right direction, confidence and attitude is still extremely important. For me Newcastle is a great example of how negativity can consume a club. No-one was ever good enough for the Geordie faithful (inc KK) Jesus_02
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11:11am Thu 17 Sep 09

Stevie61163 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Stevie61163 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!!
Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.
but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!!
I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not
i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me.
Wotton is utter carp, but no that was not me. I saved my booing for the end.
i agree that Wotton was not at his best. but did it ever cross your tiny mind that encouragement is the way forward. if i was in his position and no matter how hard i tried to make things happen all i heard was moronic booing from my own fans would make me think twice about putting that extra bit of effort in for such an ungratefull bunch of so called fans. and you never know that extra bit of effort might of made the difference between us coming back with no points or 1/3 points.
did you go to charlton?? i bet you were dissapointed not to have anything to boo about.

[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie61163[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]why waste your money??? stay at home or go down the smelly end of the M27 and support the blue few!!!![/p][/quote]Because i am a saints fan, a ST holder and hope to see us win a game. I firmly believe we are in a relegation battle this sesason.[/p][/quote]but i cant undestand the mentalitiy of spending your hard earned cash just to sit and boo your team or players. we are called supporters for a reason. do you really think that by booing your team or players that this somehow improves the moral within the squad. why on earth anyone would boo a team/club that is clearly in a transitional state is beyond me why dont you try cheering our team you never know you might just enjoy it!!! [/p][/quote]I dont just sit and boo, but i wont sit and clap everything. I cheer and sing and thats why i love away games, you lose the sit and say nothing fans in favour of the hardcore. I get behind the team, but i also vent my frustrations at certain times and i dont see why not[/p][/quote]i bet your that nobhead that was behind me at Swindon!!! booed and jeered everytime Wooton touched the ball. that did a lot of good didn`t it? we fans have the ability to make or destroy a player. why on earth you would want to destroy one of our own is beyond me. [/p][/quote]Wotton is utter carp, but no that was not me. I saved my booing for the end.[/p][/quote]i agree that Wotton was not at his best. but did it ever cross your tiny mind that encouragement is the way forward. if i was in his position and no matter how hard i tried to make things happen all i heard was moronic booing from my own fans would make me think twice about putting that extra bit of effort in for such an ungratefull bunch of so called fans. and you never know that extra bit of effort might of made the difference between us coming back with no points or 1/3 points. did you go to charlton?? i bet you were dissapointed not to have anything to boo about. Stevie61163
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11:55am Thu 17 Sep 09

saintpeter48 says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
you are just a muppet, not a TRUE saints supporter, if you don't like it then please move on and support another club. What the hell do you expect, AP has been her just a few weeks, had no pre season to build a team, settle on a formation, unite the players, its true that we nearly didn't have a club to follow. I have said many times here on the Echo message boards that AP must be given time, in my opinion the full 3 years of his contract. What do you want for Gods sake, sack AP and bring in someone else, he'll want to bring in his own backroom staff and players, then what, if that manager is no good sack him after a few weeks and get another one in, he'll want his own staff and players....and so it goes on, NO NO NO, stability is the key, we have been through a terrible time thanks to one stubborn, arrogant man, Rupert Lowe. We don't want to return to that style of management again. Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever. It'll just be great to be challenging for top spot in this league but its going to be a long haul, good luck to AP, lets ALL get behind him and the team through good times and bad, there'll be a mixture of both over the next few seasons.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]you are just a muppet, not a TRUE saints supporter, if you don't like it then please move on and support another club. What the hell do you expect, AP has been her just a few weeks, had no pre season to build a team, settle on a formation, unite the players, its true that we nearly didn't have a club to follow. I have said many times here on the Echo message boards that AP must be given time, in my opinion the full 3 years of his contract. What do you want for Gods sake, sack AP and bring in someone else, he'll want to bring in his own backroom staff and players, then what, if that manager is no good sack him after a few weeks and get another one in, he'll want his own staff and players....and so it goes on, NO NO NO, stability is the key, we have been through a terrible time thanks to one stubborn, arrogant man, Rupert Lowe. We don't want to return to that style of management again. Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever. It'll just be great to be challenging for top spot in this league but its going to be a long haul, good luck to AP, lets ALL get behind him and the team through good times and bad, there'll be a mixture of both over the next few seasons. saintpeter48
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12:11pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Stevie61163 says...

saintpeter48 wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?
you are just a muppet, not a TRUE saints supporter, if you don't like it then please move on and support another club. What the hell do you expect, AP has been her just a few weeks, had no pre season to build a team, settle on a formation, unite the players, its true that we nearly didn't have a club to follow. I have said many times here on the Echo message boards that AP must be given time, in my opinion the full 3 years of his contract. What do you want for Gods sake, sack AP and bring in someone else, he'll want to bring in his own backroom staff and players, then what, if that manager is no good sack him after a few weeks and get another one in, he'll want his own staff and players....and so it goes on, NO NO NO, stability is the key, we have been through a terrible time thanks to one stubborn, arrogant man, Rupert Lowe. We don't want to return to that style of management again. Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever. It'll just be great to be challenging for top spot in this league but its going to be a long haul, good luck to AP, lets ALL get behind him and the team through good times and bad, there'll be a mixture of both over the next few seasons.
Great post apart from
Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever.
i would like to think that we will use this season to stabilise ready for a big push for automatic promotion next season........once in the fizzy pop league we would already have a sound squad to push for promotion and will only need a couple of additions.......this is of course built upon the fact we are building sound foundations now. the premiership is not the be all and end all for me ....yes its great to play and compete with the likes of man ure but the money side of things has gone crazy and the league is full of overpaid diving prima donas. i for one am enjoying watching and supporting proper football with proper players.
[quote][p][bold]saintpeter48[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Because AP is tactically inept? Swindon was horrific..... Because he chops and changed the team for every game? Because we are yet to win, or score more than once in the league. Because we can't hold onto/build on a lead? Because people are still hiding behind -10 and or "we nearly didnt have a club" Shall i go on?[/p][/quote]you are just a muppet, not a TRUE saints supporter, if you don't like it then please move on and support another club. What the hell do you expect, AP has been her just a few weeks, had no pre season to build a team, settle on a formation, unite the players, its true that we nearly didn't have a club to follow. I have said many times here on the Echo message boards that AP must be given time, in my opinion the full 3 years of his contract. What do you want for Gods sake, sack AP and bring in someone else, he'll want to bring in his own backroom staff and players, then what, if that manager is no good sack him after a few weeks and get another one in, he'll want his own staff and players....and so it goes on, NO NO NO, stability is the key, we have been through a terrible time thanks to one stubborn, arrogant man, Rupert Lowe. We don't want to return to that style of management again. Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever. It'll just be great to be challenging for top spot in this league but its going to be a long haul, good luck to AP, lets ALL get behind him and the team through good times and bad, there'll be a mixture of both over the next few seasons.[/p][/quote]Great post apart from Rome wasn't built in a day and we'll be lucky to get out of this league in 2 seasons, then we'll have to build again for the assault on the top 6 in the championship, in my opinion we'll do well to get back to the Premiership in 10 years, if ever. i would like to think that we will use this season to stabilise ready for a big push for automatic promotion next season........once in the fizzy pop league we would already have a sound squad to push for promotion and will only need a couple of additions.......this is of course built upon the fact we are building sound foundations now. the premiership is not the be all and end all for me ....yes its great to play and compete with the likes of man ure but the money side of things has gone crazy and the league is full of overpaid diving prima donas. i for one am enjoying watching and supporting proper football with proper players. Stevie61163
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12:36pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

No need to get personal, now now girls.

Give him time? So if we get relegated, crack on with AP?
No need to get personal, now now girls. Give him time? So if we get relegated, crack on with AP? Lyrical Dancer
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12:40pm Thu 17 Sep 09

damien thorn says...

what new money has been spent on the team?the cynic in me sees a large marina nearby with high rise apartments on the st mary,s site,i could be wrong.
what new money has been spent on the team?the cynic in me sees a large marina nearby with high rise apartments on the st mary,s site,i could be wrong. damien thorn
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1:34pm Thu 17 Sep 09

St Retford says...

damien thorn wrote:
what new money has been spent on the team?the cynic in me sees a large marina nearby with high rise apartments on the st mary,s site,i could be wrong.
More than a million on Rickie plus wages high enough to attract several players who could easily be playing in the championship. Why would anyone want to build flats on St Mary's, given there's a huge oversupply and no one would want to live in them?

It's so frustrating that we're in a really amazing position and yet so many people want to see the bad in everything. Things on the pitch will get very right very soon and we'll start flying up this league. Just buckle up and cheer the lads on all you can.
[quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: what new money has been spent on the team?the cynic in me sees a large marina nearby with high rise apartments on the st mary,s site,i could be wrong.[/p][/quote]More than a million on Rickie plus wages high enough to attract several players who could easily be playing in the championship. Why would anyone want to build flats on St Mary's, given there's a huge oversupply and no one would want to live in them? It's so frustrating that we're in a really amazing position and yet so many people want to see the bad in everything. Things on the pitch will get very right very soon and we'll start flying up this league. Just buckle up and cheer the lads on all you can. St Retford
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1:40pm Thu 17 Sep 09

St Retford says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
No need to get personal, now now girls. Give him time? So if we get relegated, crack on with AP?
Yes.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: No need to get personal, now now girls. Give him time? So if we get relegated, crack on with AP?[/p][/quote]Yes. St Retford
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2:23pm Thu 17 Sep 09

stickymcglue says...

Yeh ! whats all the fuss about , in the premier league 4 years ago and now played 7 won ZERO in div 1 ! can't think why people may be unhappy , unless of course they selfishly don't want to watch Div2 football next year. Wakey wakey to all those who think Saints have the "luxury" of time on our hands to sort out this mess , we most certainly do NOT
Yeh ! whats all the fuss about , in the premier league 4 years ago and now played 7 won ZERO in div 1 ! can't think why people may be unhappy , unless of course they selfishly don't want to watch Div2 football next year. Wakey wakey to all those who think Saints have the "luxury" of time on our hands to sort out this mess , we most certainly do NOT stickymcglue
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2:23pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Invidia says...

My my Gossie, the expression is "if the cap fits wear it"
"As one of those so called jokers,(i'm sure myself and Slugger were in your mind) we're quite pleased you're not on in the evenings.
We do understand football, and follow Saints with a passion, but you have to have a laugh sometimes, and in the evening when everyone is widing down is the best time to do it.
If you don't want to join in fine, put your sensible posts on, but don't do what you usally do and criticise us"


I must say that I don't believe I have seen you post jokes on here, I must say some of your serious posts make me smile, you always seem to be sitting around someone who moans, I must say that we have only been to two away games and the fans around us were absolutely fantastic, I would suggest as you are obviously a very brave man, you should confront those that are moaning and let them know your displeasure with them, much in the same way as you do on this site and as for Sluggie I think his next game will be his first at SMS
My my Gossie, the expression is "if the cap fits wear it" "As one of those so called jokers,(i'm sure myself and Slugger were in your mind) we're quite pleased you're not on in the evenings. We do understand football, and follow Saints with a passion, but you have to have a laugh sometimes, and in the evening when everyone is widing down is the best time to do it. If you don't want to join in fine, put your sensible posts on, but don't do what you usally do and criticise us" I must say that I don't believe I have seen you post jokes on here, I must say some of your serious posts make me smile, you always seem to be sitting around someone who moans, I must say that we have only been to two away games and the fans around us were absolutely fantastic, I would suggest as you are obviously a very brave man, you should confront those that are moaning and let them know your displeasure with them, much in the same way as you do on this site and as for Sluggie I think his next game will be his first at SMS Invidia
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2:25pm Thu 17 Sep 09

miltonarchers says...

Makes me laugh all this talk of give it time, patience, support the team. This time last year most of you lot were calling for the manager to be sacked. Where was the patience then? Whats so different? Could it be that all you really hated was the fact a bloke with a posh name was running the club? Perhaps more support last season and we could have stayed up. For me I always support the club irrespective of who is running it. The team is all important and they should get your support through thick and thin. Shame so many of you let the club down last season.
Makes me laugh all this talk of give it time, patience, support the team. This time last year most of you lot were calling for the manager to be sacked. Where was the patience then? Whats so different? Could it be that all you really hated was the fact a bloke with a posh name was running the club? Perhaps more support last season and we could have stayed up. For me I always support the club irrespective of who is running it. The team is all important and they should get your support through thick and thin. Shame so many of you let the club down last season. miltonarchers
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2:57pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Invidia says...

You are still on that old chestnut Miltonarchers, are you suggesting that last year was as good as this year and that Saints had a future, I don't think so, even if we are in a lower league, it was last years and the years before "fiasco" that put us in this position, so we are in remission from the desease we had running this club, with a much brighter future!!
You are still on that old chestnut Miltonarchers, are you suggesting that last year was as good as this year and that Saints had a future, I don't think so, even if we are in a lower league, it was last years and the years before "fiasco" that put us in this position, so we are in remission from the desease we had running this club, with a much brighter future!! Invidia
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4:14pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Southerner & proud says...

Because of the protracted takeover (not Pardew or the new owners fault) we are effectively just completing our pre season as far as games go.
With the exception of Colchester there have been encouraging signs in our performances and now with the addition of Papa and Jaidi to go along with the other very astute aquisitions made by AP we are about ready to rock n roll.

Lets see a good turnout at SMS on Saturday and raise the roof for the team, once we start winning and remove the burden of the -10 I really believe we can string a run together, lets be honest when was the last time we only lost twice in our first 7 league matches?

Once we turn the draws into wins we will climb, some of those teams who have started well will falter as the season goes on, look at League 1 over the years and you will see that invariably some teams get away to a "flyer" but then struggle as injuries/suspensions etc affect their relatively small squads and fall pretty rapidly down the table - not wishful thinking, it happens every year.

My prediction at the start of the season was back to 0 points by the end of Sept and a top half finish at the end of the season with an outside chance of making the play offs should other teams fail.

There are teams - Leeds, Charlton who I believe have the squad and the resources to maintain their start and I think they will both be there to the end of the season but the rest are much of a muchness and I dont mean that in a disrespectful way its just that their resources (or lack of them) mean that they will need to be very lucky with injuries etc to be able to maintain their good start throughout what is a very tough season.

As has been said before we have no divine right to roll any team over but in terms of current squads and resources available to improve/replace we have a huge advantage over many of our rivals but this will show itself over the course of the season and NOT in the first 6 weeks!

Because of the protracted takeover (not Pardew or the new owners fault) we are effectively just completing our pre season as far as games go. With the exception of Colchester there have been encouraging signs in our performances and now with the addition of Papa and Jaidi to go along with the other very astute aquisitions made by AP we are about ready to rock n roll. Lets see a good turnout at SMS on Saturday and raise the roof for the team, once we start winning and remove the burden of the -10 I really believe we can string a run together, lets be honest when was the last time we only lost twice in our first 7 league matches? Once we turn the draws into wins we will climb, some of those teams who have started well will falter as the season goes on, look at League 1 over the years and you will see that invariably some teams get away to a "flyer" but then struggle as injuries/suspensions etc affect their relatively small squads and fall pretty rapidly down the table - not wishful thinking, it happens every year. My prediction at the start of the season was back to 0 points by the end of Sept and a top half finish at the end of the season with an outside chance of making the play offs should other teams fail. There are teams - Leeds, Charlton who I believe have the squad and the resources to maintain their start and I think they will both be there to the end of the season but the rest are much of a muchness and I dont mean that in a disrespectful way its just that their resources (or lack of them) mean that they will need to be very lucky with injuries etc to be able to maintain their good start throughout what is a very tough season. As has been said before we have no divine right to roll any team over but in terms of current squads and resources available to improve/replace we have a huge advantage over many of our rivals but this will show itself over the course of the season and NOT in the first 6 weeks! Southerner & proud
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4:37pm Thu 17 Sep 09

slugger says...

Invidia wrote:
My my Gossie, the expression is "if the cap fits wear it" "As one of those so called jokers,(i'm sure myself and Slugger were in your mind) we're quite pleased you're not on in the evenings. We do understand football, and follow Saints with a passion, but you have to have a laugh sometimes, and in the evening when everyone is widing down is the best time to do it. If you don't want to join in fine, put your sensible posts on, but don't do what you usally do and criticise us" I must say that I don't believe I have seen you post jokes on here, I must say some of your serious posts make me smile, you always seem to be sitting around someone who moans, I must say that we have only been to two away games and the fans around us were absolutely fantastic, I would suggest as you are obviously a very brave man, you should confront those that are moaning and let them know your displeasure with them, much in the same way as you do on this site and as for Sluggie I think his next game will be his first at SMS
think again my friend.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: My my Gossie, the expression is "if the cap fits wear it" "As one of those so called jokers,(i'm sure myself and Slugger were in your mind) we're quite pleased you're not on in the evenings. We do understand football, and follow Saints with a passion, but you have to have a laugh sometimes, and in the evening when everyone is widing down is the best time to do it. If you don't want to join in fine, put your sensible posts on, but don't do what you usally do and criticise us" I must say that I don't believe I have seen you post jokes on here, I must say some of your serious posts make me smile, you always seem to be sitting around someone who moans, I must say that we have only been to two away games and the fans around us were absolutely fantastic, I would suggest as you are obviously a very brave man, you should confront those that are moaning and let them know your displeasure with them, much in the same way as you do on this site and as for Sluggie I think his next game will be his first at SMS[/p][/quote]think again my friend. slugger
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4:50pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Blame the takeover

Blame the lack of pre-season

Cover up's for AP's failings?
Blame the takeover Blame the lack of pre-season Cover up's for AP's failings? Lyrical Dancer
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4:54pm Thu 17 Sep 09

slugger says...

i might be dumb,but i'm not that dumb !
i might be dumb,but i'm not that dumb ! slugger
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5:03pm Thu 17 Sep 09

St.DaveH says...

Most honest Saints fans with any iota of football intelligence would, or should be happy if we survive this season avoiding relegation.
The delay in the takeover of our club also delayed the preparation time essential for any team to be able to perform at a satisfactory level.
Calls for AP to go boarders on lunacy – how much success has the last decade brought with the merry go round of Managers at the club – none that’s what.
We have a great opportunity to stabilise this club for a long and successful future, and not necessarily in the Premiership either – (although another couple of decades in the top flight would be spot on)
Get behind the team on Sat and the Manager and show ML he has made a prudent decision on keeping our club afloat – the in house bickering by some Saints fans on this site, and other negative posts will do little good – so go find something else to moan about. K.
Most honest Saints fans with any iota of football intelligence would, or should be happy if we survive this season avoiding relegation. The delay in the takeover of our club also delayed the preparation time essential for any team to be able to perform at a satisfactory level. Calls for AP to go boarders on lunacy – how much success has the last decade brought with the merry go round of Managers at the club – none that’s what. We have a great opportunity to stabilise this club for a long and successful future, and not necessarily in the Premiership either – (although another couple of decades in the top flight would be spot on) Get behind the team on Sat and the Manager and show ML he has made a prudent decision on keeping our club afloat – the in house bickering by some Saints fans on this site, and other negative posts will do little good – so go find something else to moan about. K. St.DaveH
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5:07pm Thu 17 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

Lyrical Dancer wrote:
Blame the takeover Blame the lack of pre-season Cover up's for AP's failings?
He has not failed he has not been given a fair chance, go support Norwich they got rid of Gunn after a game.
[quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: Blame the takeover Blame the lack of pre-season Cover up's for AP's failings?[/p][/quote]He has not failed he has not been given a fair chance, go support Norwich they got rid of Gunn after a game. saint_luke
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5:10pm Thu 17 Sep 09

saint_luke says...

Rickie Lambert (£1m from Bristol Rovers)
Dean Hammond (undisclosed from Colchester)
Neal Trotman (season loan)
Graeme Murty (free signing)
Dan Harding (free signing)
Jacob Mellis (half-season loan)
Radhi Jaidi (free transfer)
Papa Waigo N'Diaye (loan)

Pardew has manged to sign these names above, now i think these lot are playing a lot better than the shower of sh*t we had last year which have now gone. What did they do apart from drain the club of any money it had left.

Grzegorz Rasiak (undisclosed to Reading)
Stern John (out-of-contract)
Jason Euell (free transfer to Blackpool)
Andrew Surman (£1.2m to Wolves)
David McGoldrick (£1m to Nottingham Forest)
Nathan Dyer (£400,000 to Swansea)
Bradley Wright-Phillips (free transfer to Crystal Palace)
Rudi Skacel (released)
Ryan Smith (out-of-contract)
Tommy Forecast (month-long loan)
Rickie Lambert (£1m from Bristol Rovers) Dean Hammond (undisclosed from Colchester) Neal Trotman (season loan) Graeme Murty (free signing) Dan Harding (free signing) Jacob Mellis (half-season loan) Radhi Jaidi (free transfer) Papa Waigo N'Diaye (loan) Pardew has manged to sign these names above, now i think these lot are playing a lot better than the shower of sh*t we had last year which have now gone. What did they do apart from drain the club of any money it had left. Grzegorz Rasiak (undisclosed to Reading) Stern John (out-of-contract) Jason Euell (free transfer to Blackpool) Andrew Surman (£1.2m to Wolves) David McGoldrick (£1m to Nottingham Forest) Nathan Dyer (£400,000 to Swansea) Bradley Wright-Phillips (free transfer to Crystal Palace) Rudi Skacel (released) Ryan Smith (out-of-contract) Tommy Forecast (month-long loan) saint_luke
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5:40pm Thu 17 Sep 09

slugger says...

hey,gosportsaint.
how will i recognise you ?
hey,gosportsaint. how will i recognise you ? slugger
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6:11pm Thu 17 Sep 09

KCAJRETSOF says...

We will never be rid of these brain-dead so called fans. No doubt these same people who want AP to go, were critical of RL for sacking managers, a policy which everyone agrees contributed to our current demise. As I said - brain-dead, or brain-less - who needs them!
We will never be rid of these brain-dead so called fans. No doubt these same people who want AP to go, were critical of RL for sacking managers, a policy which everyone agrees contributed to our current demise. As I said - brain-dead, or brain-less - who needs them! KCAJRETSOF
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6:21pm Thu 17 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Because someone doesnt agree with the masses and has an opinion does not mean they are brain dead, a moron etc
Because someone doesnt agree with the masses and has an opinion does not mean they are brain dead, a moron etc Lyrical Dancer
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6:25pm Thu 17 Sep 09

wellers says...

tolfree wrote:
Lyrical Dancer wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer
I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me. Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence. As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals.
Well said....I think you have to realise that there will be some people who have less experience in the knowledge of the process of building any business or team from scratch.....we just have to accept this fact....the team will do the talking....steady process has been made.....I have seen Yeovil play this year and they are not going to be a walkover........assu
ming you are going to thrash any team in this or any professional league is pub football mentality.....As 'supporters' we need to get the best out of the players.....that means they play with out fear of failure......we do this by accepting there will be good and bad....with our support hopefully there will be more good!!
[quote][p][bold]tolfree[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lyrical Dancer[/bold] wrote: If they are crap i will boo. I dont spend my hard earned money to go and watch the dross they have served up at times this season If they play well, i will clap and cheer[/p][/quote]I've made a few comments to this type of thread, but I've always found it really difficult to accurately articulate myself. But at last I think Lyrical Dancer has done the hard work for me. Why is it that on average teams play better at home than away? We all know they're professionals, but there's something about the home supporters that influences a game, whether it’s the premier league or the Sunday league. IMO It's the job of the fans to cheer when the team score, giving the players affirmation to go on and score more. Similarly it's the job of the fans to pick the team up when they lose a goal, to help pick them up and to boost their confidence. As Lyrical Dancer put it “If they are crap I will boo”. That strikes at the heart of what being a saints fan is for me. If I think saints are playing crap, I’ll sing at the top of my voice. I’ll realise they are struggling themselves and need me, the 12th man, to put some more effort in. I pay my hard earned money for this privilege because I see myself as part of the team. I’m not paying for a service, I’m paying for the privilege, through the good times and the bad. If I was paying for a service, like having my car repaired, then I would boo when it didn’t go exactly to plan. But football is different. Being a Saints fan is different. Everything except the results are going to plan, so its our job to cheer (no boo) to stop us losing those late goals.[/p][/quote]Well said....I think you have to realise that there will be some people who have less experience in the knowledge of the process of building any business or team from scratch.....we just have to accept this fact....the team will do the talking....steady process has been made.....I have seen Yeovil play this year and they are not going to be a walkover........assu ming you are going to thrash any team in this or any professional league is pub football mentality.....As 'supporters' we need to get the best out of the players.....that means they play with out fear of failure......we do this by accepting there will be good and bad....with our support hopefully there will be more good!! wellers
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6:45pm Thu 17 Sep 09

KCAJRETSOF says...

'Rome was not built in a day'' the saying goes. How true this is. A new owner, a new manager, new players - and we win every game 6-0! It' in all our dreams! It's not going to happen, but it does not mean we are doomed. Patience is the key!
'Rome was not built in a day'' the saying goes. How true this is. A new owner, a new manager, new players - and we win every game 6-0! It' in all our dreams! It's not going to happen, but it does not mean we are doomed. Patience is the key! KCAJRETSOF
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11:11pm Thu 17 Sep 09

PORK saint says...

holmesy1995 wrote:
lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!!
Well said!!!
COYR We will win on sat i can see it now

sw note-sign a sign we are going to win maybe
[quote][p][bold]holmesy1995[/bold] wrote: lyrical dancer, may i say on behalf of 99 %of saints fans that you are a disgrace to sfc and you may want to pop down the road where you will be appreciated. YOU POMPOUS, COMPLAINING, SKATE SUPPORTING MORON!![/p][/quote]Well said!!! COYR We will win on sat i can see it now sw note-sign a sign we are going to win maybe PORK saint
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12:30pm Fri 18 Sep 09

Red n White says...

I agree with some of the things lyrical dancer has said - we have a much better team this season compared to last, and also better scouts and coaches but yet we aren't doing any better against weaker opposition (most of the time). However, all we need is one win to turn our season around and hopefully it'll come saturday.
I agree with some of the things lyrical dancer has said - we have a much better team this season compared to last, and also better scouts and coaches but yet we aren't doing any better against weaker opposition (most of the time). However, all we need is one win to turn our season around and hopefully it'll come saturday. Red n White
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10:04am Sat 19 Sep 09

Lyrical Dancer says...

Saints fans in making excuses for not winning shocker. Well, we are in L1, have money and yet still no win. If we dont win today then i am afraid the voices of contempt against the holy Mr Pardew will start to grow
Saints fans in making excuses for not winning shocker. Well, we are in L1, have money and yet still no win. If we dont win today then i am afraid the voices of contempt against the holy Mr Pardew will start to grow Lyrical Dancer
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