Real problems of expansion

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THOSE who oppose Southampton’s expansion forget one inconvenient fact – for the older generation as children, there was no Redbridge, Harefield, or Thornhill and definitely no Lordshill.

Southampton was bursting for lack of accommodation and suitable industrial land, with not one of the surrounding authorities anxious or willing to help.

When land was obtained it came invariably with conditions; the Lordshill expansion was sanctioned by the government on the condition that we accepted “London overspill” families.

As residents became more affluent, more and more bought their first home outside of the city limits, resulting in those same areas expanding until they started to impose their problems [yes it works both ways] on the city. Traffic congestion is the prime example.

The reality that people refuse to face is really quite simple, the “South Hampshire” structure plan in which I played a part had but a limited success, today we need [must] go further with the integration of the two cities. It does not make sense with one council taking action in isolation.

I give you two of many examples. The first will I am sure will surprise no one: “Park and Ride”. Both Eastleigh and Southampton face identical problems, Eastleigh admittedly to a different degree, one site near the junction of the M3/M27 could provide the answer.

The second is the docks expansion across the river, seen by most as inevitable if we are to continue as the lead provider in this particular field of containerisation.

Does it really make sense to be situated in land controlled by two different authorities? Absolutely not!

There are of course very real problems to overcome.

In reality we need three or more new “Metropolitan Councils” covering the whole of Hampshire, and in the process eliminate Hampshire County Council.

The “gaps” that concern Councillor Bundy would be more adequately protected, the truth unfortunately is that much of the encroachment [ Rownhams is an example ] into the green belt is from the from the smaller councils who in many cases “doth protest too much”.

So indeed do many of the residents who fearing such a move will still continue to decry “this or that failure” on the part of the city council to act, whilst enjoying the benefits but not the cost.

Alan Reynard of Southampton.

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12:05pm Tue 28 Jan 14

loosehead says...

when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps? loosehead
  • Score: -2

12:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion? Linesman
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6:21pm Wed 29 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings? loosehead
  • Score: -3

7:56pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked. Linesman
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9:01pm Wed 29 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments! loosehead
  • Score: -1

11:46am Thu 30 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued. Linesman
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12:05pm Thu 30 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me loosehead
  • Score: -1

2:19pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE."

I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here.

As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority.

Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities.

It was never a plan.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE." I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here. As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority. Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities. It was never a plan. Linesman
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3:45pm Thu 30 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE."

I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here.

As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority.

Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities.

It was never a plan.
Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says.
Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ?
The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T
sMWbBm
The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then?
1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans?
I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ?
Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?
but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City?
See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE." I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here. As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority. Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities. It was never a plan.[/p][/quote]Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says. Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ? The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T sMWbBm The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then? 1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans? I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ? Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities? but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City? See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not loosehead
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8:05pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE."

I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here.

As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority.

Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities.

It was never a plan.
Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says.
Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ?
The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T

sMWbBm
The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then?
1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans?
I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ?
Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?
but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City?
See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not
There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board.

It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth.

You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you.

The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE." I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here. As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority. Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities. It was never a plan.[/p][/quote]Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says. Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ? The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T sMWbBm The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then? 1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans? I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ? Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities? but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City? See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not[/p][/quote]There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board. It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth. You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you. The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum? Linesman
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9:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE."

I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here.

As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority.

Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities.

It was never a plan.
Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says.
Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ?
The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T


sMWbBm
The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then?
1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans?
I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ?
Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?
but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City?
See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not
There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board.

It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth.

You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you.

The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum?
thought you'd pick up on that! I was just getting fed up with your attempts to make me out to be a storyteller on every subject I comment on you come on & say prove it even when countless people tell you you're wrong still you come on & want written proof or it's a fairy tale.
You're becoming a wee bit boring & predictable!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE." I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here. As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority. Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities. It was never a plan.[/p][/quote]Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says. Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ? The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T sMWbBm The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then? 1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans? I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ? Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities? but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City? See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not[/p][/quote]There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board. It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth. You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you. The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum?[/p][/quote]thought you'd pick up on that! I was just getting fed up with your attempts to make me out to be a storyteller on every subject I comment on you come on & say prove it even when countless people tell you you're wrong still you come on & want written proof or it's a fairy tale. You're becoming a wee bit boring & predictable! loosehead
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when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities.
the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases.
the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY.
this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead?
how long before there are no gaps?
Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?
I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you?
I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?
No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been.

Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word.

1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer.

2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer.

3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer.

None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry.

Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not.

However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates.

As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.
try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments!
It is not me that is making the claim.

I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions.

As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told.

I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post.

The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities.

Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.
linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me
CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE."

I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here.

As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority.

Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities.

It was never a plan.
Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says.
Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ?
The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T



sMWbBm
The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then?
1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans?
I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ?
Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?
but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City?
See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not
There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board.

It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth.

You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you.

The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum?
thought you'd pick up on that! I was just getting fed up with your attempts to make me out to be a storyteller on every subject I comment on you come on & say prove it even when countless people tell you you're wrong still you come on & want written proof or it's a fairy tale.
You're becoming a wee bit boring & predictable!
Actually, you did tell me a story about Mr Fish, what he had said and the behaviour of your class, so I suppose I do not need to try and make you out to be a story-teller, as you have given evidence of your expertise in that department. If you mean, a teller of Tall stories, then I deny EVER having claimed that you have been a teller of untruths.

That is not to say that I do not think that you may have passed on false information in good faith.

I would be very interested to knowhow you come to the conclusion that 'countless people' have told me that I am wrong. I am not denying that there have been one or two that have disagreed with me, but 'countless people'? I think that you are really stretching credibility with that one.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: when I went to Bellemoor the headmaster a Mr Fish told us about the future plans for this area & at least two of the cities. the Waterside was just a few small villages with Fawley A Power station & some military ports/bases. the whole of this area & Eastleigh/Totton were with Southampton & Portsmouth oh! Fareham & Gosport going to become SOLENT CITY. this hasn't happened but would there still be this"NO Southampton expansion in the waterside" rhetoric if indeed Solent City had gone ahead? how long before there are no gaps?[/p][/quote]Did he mention who proposed these plans, and where a copy of them could be viewed, or was he just expressing an opinion?[/p][/quote]I was 12-13 & the class was booing him as the thought of amalgamation with Portsmouth was horrific so sorry no I never asked him for proof but hey I guess you'll think I made it up again won't you? I don't come on here & make you out to be a storyteller so is this the only way you can defend a Grossly inadequate Labour Council & National Party by attacking any one who shows their failings?[/p][/quote]No. I am not accusing you of making it up, but guessing that he could well have been. Once again you appear to lack an understanding of the written word. 1) Did he mention who proposed these plans? - You did not give an answer. 2) Did he say where a copy of these plans could be seen? - You did not give an answer. 3) Was he just expressing an opinion? - You did not give an answer. None of those questions doubted your honesty, just a genuine enquiry. Instead you are guessing that I think you made it all up, which I am not. However, if you were in a class that was so lacking in discipline, that they were booing him, I think that it is highly possible that you may have missed a lot of what he said in the noise and confusion caused by your unruly classmates. As you were with such an unruly bunch, I can quite understand why you did not fully understand the questions I asked.[/p][/quote]try looking into it as back then there was talks of a Solent City research it before you make these comments![/p][/quote]It is not me that is making the claim. I asked, what I thought were, reasonable questions. As you appeared to be saying that you were in a class of unruly children, that lacked discipline, I thought it quite reasonable to assume that you could well have either mis-heard or not fully understood what you were being told. I have no idea how long ago Mr Fish made the comment that you refer to, but my schooling also took place in Hampshire, and I never heard of such a proposal then, nor since, until your post. The nearest thing that I have heard was that some years ago - maybe ten or fifteen - it was suggested that Saints and Pompey amalgamated and formed Solent United and had a purpose-built stadium mid-way between the two cities. Strange as it may seem, both sets of supporters were less than enthusiastic, and it was not pursued.[/p][/quote]linesman i went to google & typed in Solent City Proposal & there it was so give it ago & get back to me[/p][/quote]CHECK OUT, "OUR WATERFRONT SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE." I have answered your comments about Solent City on there, and do not propose to duplicate it on here. As you will see, if you understand what Chris Huhne MP said in the House of Commons and the explanation given on Wikipedia, Solent City was never a proposal by anyone or any authority. Chris Huhne MP claimed that something like 'Solent City' could happen as a result of the then government's plans for 83,000 houses in the area, while Wikipedia says that it was a virtually a term of convenience to include Portsmouth, Southampton and local communities. It was never a plan.[/p][/quote]Chris Hune? discredited Liberal MP? I'd rather believe my old headmaster & the many articles on Solent City on the Google site than believe a word that corrupt MP says. Wikipedia? Why not look at the real websites ? The proposed Solent City by Colin Buchanan betw Southampton & Portsmouth, 1965, the #planning & growth of SE England pic.twitter.com/657T sMWbBm The PROPOSED Solent City now look at the date? was Huhne around then? 1965 is the year which would have made me 8 so at 12-13 it was going strong so really no plans? I can understand in your time of live you like to find some entertainment but on a subject like this that was a proposed plan why do you need to attack me ? Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities? but on that point didn't Labour scrap a deal with the Island & then try setting up deals with Portsmouth is there something going on with Southampton Labour council & Portsmouth Liberal council that could bring about Solent City? See I can make mischief where there's nothing so grow up & be the adult you seem to think I'm not[/p][/quote]There was a proposal. An idea was floated. A feasibility study took place, which is considerably different to a planning application, or even outline planning, and no further action was taken. No plans were ever submitted or, apparently ever appearing on a drawing board. It is rather similar to a proposal made a couple of years back that there should be a tunnel linking Gosport to the Isle of Wight, and another proposal that there should be one linking Gosport with Portsmouth. You asked, "Was I saying Labour scum are trying to amalgamate the two cities?" I cannot recall you saying it, but as it involved calling someone, or some group of people, names, then it is the sort of thing that I have come to expect from you. The only serious link between the two cities that I am aware of is when Portsmouth's LibDem Council and Southampton's Tory Council combined to bid for 'City of Culture' status, much to the amazement and amusement of many citizens of both cities. As that was an form of amalgamation, are you calling those councils scum?[/p][/quote]thought you'd pick up on that! I was just getting fed up with your attempts to make me out to be a storyteller on every subject I comment on you come on & say prove it even when countless people tell you you're wrong still you come on & want written proof or it's a fairy tale. You're becoming a wee bit boring & predictable![/p][/quote]Actually, you did tell me a story about Mr Fish, what he had said and the behaviour of your class, so I suppose I do not need to try and make you out to be a story-teller, as you have given evidence of your expertise in that department. If you mean, a teller of Tall stories, then I deny EVER having claimed that you have been a teller of untruths. That is not to say that I do not think that you may have passed on false information in good faith. I would be very interested to knowhow you come to the conclusion that 'countless people' have told me that I am wrong. I am not denying that there have been one or two that have disagreed with me, but 'countless people'? I think that you are really stretching credibility with that one. Linesman
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