Not surprised by junction danger

Daily Echo: Not surprised by junction danger Not surprised by junction danger

EXPERIENCED motorists are not surprised by the dangerous situations at the new Saltmarsh Road/Itchen Bridge Junction, because a significant proportion of cyclists often have to be avoided while ignoring red lights and traffic signs at other junctions across our fair city.

I suspect that irresponsible actions by cyclists will continue until they have to pay their share to maintain the roads that they so often criticise.

H CHAPMAN, Southampton.

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5:58pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

First off, most cyclists DO top at lights and give way lines, secondly, council tax pays for the roads, not VED and no, before you mention it, road tax does not exist, it hasn't done so since 1937.
First off, most cyclists DO top at lights and give way lines, secondly, council tax pays for the roads, not VED and no, before you mention it, road tax does not exist, it hasn't done so since 1937. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 6

6:30pm Tue 4 Mar 14

downfader says...

Do motorists pay for the roads? Well no, not even close:
http://downfader.blo
gspot.co.uk/2012/04/
do-motorists-really-
pay-for-roads-are.ht
ml

(Lots of links in the blog to places like the indepth BBC reports)
Do motorists pay for the roads? Well no, not even close: http://downfader.blo gspot.co.uk/2012/04/ do-motorists-really- pay-for-roads-are.ht ml (Lots of links in the blog to places like the indepth BBC reports) downfader
  • Score: 7

8:37am Wed 5 Mar 14

Forest Resident says...

"Pay their share"? That is fundamentally incorrect. Do get your ignorant head out of your backside and learn something, read this http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/magazine-23694
438
"Pay their share"? That is fundamentally incorrect. Do get your ignorant head out of your backside and learn something, read this http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/magazine-23694 438 Forest Resident
  • Score: 5

12:22pm Wed 5 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

H Chapman, I pay VED on two cars and a motorcycle. Is that enough for me to cycle on the roads? How much more should I pay?
H Chapman, I pay VED on two cars and a motorcycle. Is that enough for me to cycle on the roads? How much more should I pay? From the sidelines
  • Score: 4

12:23pm Wed 5 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

Mr/Mrs/Miss Chapman - Read up on a subject before you speak. All council tax payers pay for the upkeep of roads. It has been covered many times on this website and really didn't need bringing up again.
Mr/Mrs/Miss Chapman - Read up on a subject before you speak. All council tax payers pay for the upkeep of roads. It has been covered many times on this website and really didn't need bringing up again. camerajuan
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Wed 5 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart.
Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart. bigfella777
  • Score: 3

10:34pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Hiram Abiff says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart.
I'd love to see you with three children and an adult passenger on your bike. Or how about 20 pallets weighing 30 tonnes!

Think before you post bigfella777!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart.[/p][/quote]I'd love to see you with three children and an adult passenger on your bike. Or how about 20 pallets weighing 30 tonnes! Think before you post bigfella777! Hiram Abiff
  • Score: -2

10:47pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Hiram Abiff wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart.
I'd love to see you with three children and an adult passenger on your bike. Or how about 20 pallets weighing 30 tonnes!

Think before you post bigfella777!
Practice what you preach, he clearly wasn't talking about transporting goods or families(though a family can easily cycle everywhere in a small radius with ease) but was most likely talking about every single person who takes even a small car on the road, with themselves being the sole occupant, now how selfish of them is that? Obviously if they have a genuine need for the car such as as being disabled then fair enough, they should carry on.
[quote][p][bold]Hiram Abiff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Perhaps lazy car drivers should pay even more tax for the strain that they put on the NHS . A healthy cyclist is far less likely to suffer form serious illness than an obese motorist with a flabby heart.[/p][/quote]I'd love to see you with three children and an adult passenger on your bike. Or how about 20 pallets weighing 30 tonnes! Think before you post bigfella777![/p][/quote]Practice what you preach, he clearly wasn't talking about transporting goods or families(though a family can easily cycle everywhere in a small radius with ease) but was most likely talking about every single person who takes even a small car on the road, with themselves being the sole occupant, now how selfish of them is that? Obviously if they have a genuine need for the car such as as being disabled then fair enough, they should carry on. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

8:55am Mon 10 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

The single man with no health problems who drives 3 miles to work along a flat, busy road every morning and complains about traffic is a fool.

Get a bike, beat the traffic.
The single man with no health problems who drives 3 miles to work along a flat, busy road every morning and complains about traffic is a fool. Get a bike, beat the traffic. camerajuan
  • Score: 1

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