Cyclists are not helping themselves

Cyclists are not helping themselves

Cyclists are not helping themselves

First published in Readers' Letters

I’M doing it, I’m taking an issue with cyclists.

I am a cyclist myself. For commuting, leisure and fitness purposes I never avoid an opportunity and I will defend cyclists when they get classed as a menace by other road users who have one or two bad experiences.

I walk down West Park Road to Central Station every morning, Monday to Friday, and back up each evening from the train station. This road has now been reclassed as a one-way road going towards Watts Park.

Cyclists, stop cycling down this road/on the pavement towards the station. It’s a one-way road which you are not permitted to travel down, and don’t get me started on the pavement. That pavement is not a cycle lane. Just cycle down past the Mayflower Theatre instead. It doesn’t take much longer. If you feel it does, leave your house 25 seconds earlier.

Road users have enough ammo with the pavement-hopping, red light-running, non-signalling, helmetless small minority of cyclists.

I get it, our route has changed.

Adapt to survive.

Now I’m off for a cycle through the New Forest. I’ll be the one you can all see clearly who is riding sensibly, wearing a helmet, hi-vis, lights for when it gets dark later and a well maintained red Orbea road bike.

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11:34am Thu 27 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road.

But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.
Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road. But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs. From the sidelines
  • Score: 4

12:34pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

A cyclist who says it like it is "...pavement hopping,red light-running,non signalling,helmetles
s,small minority of cyclists...adapt!"
I like it!
A cyclist who says it like it is "...pavement hopping,red light-running,non signalling,helmetles s,small minority of cyclists...adapt!" I like it! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

2:53pm Thu 27 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
A cyclist who says it like it is "...pavement hopping,red light-running,non signalling,helmetles

s,small minority of cyclists...adapt!"
I like it!
Agreed. There's no need to cycle down that road. It's lazy. If it makes you late taking Commercial Road, leave earlier. Too much logic?

I cycled down Commercial Road this morning at about 8:40ish, wasn't a problem until some headcase in a Saxo decided to open their door without checking. Good thing I have good brakes and reactions of a mongoose on speed.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: A cyclist who says it like it is "...pavement hopping,red light-running,non signalling,helmetles s,small minority of cyclists...adapt!" I like it![/p][/quote]Agreed. There's no need to cycle down that road. It's lazy. If it makes you late taking Commercial Road, leave earlier. Too much logic? I cycled down Commercial Road this morning at about 8:40ish, wasn't a problem until some headcase in a Saxo decided to open their door without checking. Good thing I have good brakes and reactions of a mongoose on speed. camerajuan
  • Score: 5

9:36pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road.

But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.
Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road. But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.[/p][/quote]Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 0

11:02am Fri 28 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road.

But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.
Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous.
They are. Due to the road users being unfamiliar with them.

However, are they more or less dangerous than cycling on the pavement? Evidence welcome, as always.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road. But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.[/p][/quote]Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous.[/p][/quote]They are. Due to the road users being unfamiliar with them. However, are they more or less dangerous than cycling on the pavement? Evidence welcome, as always. From the sidelines
  • Score: 1

11:34am Fri 28 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road.

But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.
Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous.
They are. Due to the road users being unfamiliar with them.

However, are they more or less dangerous than cycling on the pavement? Evidence welcome, as always.
Both are just as dangerous as both put you where motorists won't be looking for other vehicles, motorists are most likely to be looking at where traffic is coming from on a one-way road and aren't likely to be looking along the paths as they won't be expecting cyclists to be going the "wrong" way or to be on the path.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Perhaps, given that it it a popular route to the station, the road should have had a contra-flow cycle lane installed. The alternative is the busy Commercial Road. But that would have required your council to respond to the people's needs.[/p][/quote]Contra-flow cycle lanes are actually quite dangerous.[/p][/quote]They are. Due to the road users being unfamiliar with them. However, are they more or less dangerous than cycling on the pavement? Evidence welcome, as always.[/p][/quote]Both are just as dangerous as both put you where motorists won't be looking for other vehicles, motorists are most likely to be looking at where traffic is coming from on a one-way road and aren't likely to be looking along the paths as they won't be expecting cyclists to be going the "wrong" way or to be on the path. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

SilvanDryad says...

What's the problem? Most cycles used to go up and down Kingsbridge Lane (the "cycling prohibited" footpath between the BBC and the railway line). For some reason these days they prefer the footpath entangled with the roadworks and pavement re-instatement as mentioned above. The oriental lady with the novelty rubber pig (horn?) on her handlebars seems especially unaware of pedestrians. She tried to run me over as I exited the station this morning. Also each evening I have at least one near miss as a cycle overtakes me at speed and as closely as possible as I walk down the pavement on the railway side of Western Espanade towards the station.
What's the problem? Most cycles used to go up and down Kingsbridge Lane (the "cycling prohibited" footpath between the BBC and the railway line). For some reason these days they prefer the footpath entangled with the roadworks and pavement re-instatement as mentioned above. The oriental lady with the novelty rubber pig (horn?) on her handlebars seems especially unaware of pedestrians. She tried to run me over as I exited the station this morning. Also each evening I have at least one near miss as a cycle overtakes me at speed and as closely as possible as I walk down the pavement on the railway side of Western Espanade towards the station. SilvanDryad
  • Score: 0

8:48am Sat 29 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

It always amuses me that some people think that a cyclist can "run over a pedestrian" like some sort of Fred Dibner steam roller and then casually ride away unharmed while the pedestrian is flat on the floor.
I have to tell you that they can't, yes there may well be injury to both party's but it is usually the cyclist that will come off worse as he/she will be flipped from height and fall whereas the pedestrian will be struck.
I speak from experience having hit two pedestrians now who have walked in the road without looking, one of the idiots was even wearing headphones, how are you supposed to warn somebody if they cannot hear you?
Also if you read the highway code it is only illegal for a cyclist to ride on a pavement that forms a direct border to the road so Kingsbridge Lane is technically legal to cycle on and I will keep doing it.
It always amuses me that some people think that a cyclist can "run over a pedestrian" like some sort of Fred Dibner steam roller and then casually ride away unharmed while the pedestrian is flat on the floor. I have to tell you that they can't, yes there may well be injury to both party's but it is usually the cyclist that will come off worse as he/she will be flipped from height and fall whereas the pedestrian will be struck. I speak from experience having hit two pedestrians now who have walked in the road without looking, one of the idiots was even wearing headphones, how are you supposed to warn somebody if they cannot hear you? Also if you read the highway code it is only illegal for a cyclist to ride on a pavement that forms a direct border to the road so Kingsbridge Lane is technically legal to cycle on and I will keep doing it. bigfella777
  • Score: 0

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