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THE City of Portsmouth now has its own Government minister to deal with the problems resulting from the harsh blow of shipbuilding ending.

Perhaps this initiative could be employed in other places where economic troubles exist.

PHILIP G. HAWKINS, Southampton.

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10:52pm Fri 2 May 14

Linesman says...

Portsmouth has one Tory MP and the other is now an Independent, having resigned from the LibDems before being pushed.

Could it possibly be that Dodgy Dave made this appointment as an electioneering ploy, or would I be considered a cynic for even considering such a thing?
Portsmouth has one Tory MP and the other is now an Independent, having resigned from the LibDems before being pushed. Could it possibly be that Dodgy Dave made this appointment as an electioneering ploy, or would I be considered a cynic for even considering such a thing? Linesman
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7:34am Sat 3 May 14

loosehead says...

So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it?
Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city?
We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us .
What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?
So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it? Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city? We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us . What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not? loosehead
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9:06am Sat 3 May 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it?
Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city?
We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us .
What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?
For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry.

I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool.

Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it? Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city? We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us . What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?[/p][/quote]For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry. I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool. Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power. Linesman
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9:38am Sat 3 May 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it?
Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city?
We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us .
What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?
For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry.

I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool.

Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power.
what about the £20million cut in Government money to Southampton to go up North by A Labour government or don't you want to admit to that?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it? Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city? We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us . What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?[/p][/quote]For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry. I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool. Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power.[/p][/quote]what about the £20million cut in Government money to Southampton to go up North by A Labour government or don't you want to admit to that? loosehead
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7:30pm Sat 3 May 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it?
Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city?
We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us .
What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?
For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry.

I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool.

Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power.
what about the £20million cut in Government money to Southampton to go up North by A Labour government or don't you want to admit to that?
What about the cut in the current government's grant to Southampton City Council, or don't you want to admit that?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So Southampton has a Tory MP so the above argument doesn't really work does it? Now in all the years of a Labour Government what did they do for this city? We lost big well paying employers but no Tzar put in place to help us . What Labour did do was take £20million from our budget to put up North to safe Labour seats yet we had two Labour MP's & not a squeak from them when this was happening why not?[/p][/quote]For a start, under Labour there was a big increase in both the container trade in the port and also the cruise industry. I note that it is under the Tory-led coalition that some of the cruise trade will be operating from Liverpool. Yes, there were big, well paying employers that left under Labour, but that has also happened since Cameron came to power.[/p][/quote]what about the £20million cut in Government money to Southampton to go up North by A Labour government or don't you want to admit to that?[/p][/quote]What about the cut in the current government's grant to Southampton City Council, or don't you want to admit that? Linesman
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10:15am Tue 6 May 14

Linesman says...

stanleywedge@gmail.c
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wrote:
I remember when Pompey relied on Southampton Docks for Work . Then, Harland and Wolf ,Thorneycroft, Camper and Nicholson were the main employers .Yes the Trains from Pompey were always Full. Yes we had plenty of Yards that could overhaul Vessels. Yes , Southampton Has Shelted Waters and four tides , a Day and Skilled Men to work the great port that, she is. Pompey was nothing then. Yes I know its a bit of Savings for the Ferries,not to sail up the Solent, but she never had the Docks, like we Had.
The difference was that Southampton is a commercial dock, that refitted and maintained commercial ships.

Portsmouth was a Royal dockyard, for the building and maintaining Royal Navy ships and has also built warships for foreign navies. They were not in competition.

As you say, trains from Pompey were always full, but there were also plenty travelling in the reverse direction.

The ferries to the Isle of Wight complement each other, but Southampton has the link to the Channel Islands, where the service to Spain goes from Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]stanleywedge@gmail.c om[/bold] wrote: I remember when Pompey relied on Southampton Docks for Work . Then, Harland and Wolf ,Thorneycroft, Camper and Nicholson were the main employers .Yes the Trains from Pompey were always Full. Yes we had plenty of Yards that could overhaul Vessels. Yes , Southampton Has Shelted Waters and four tides , a Day and Skilled Men to work the great port that, she is. Pompey was nothing then. Yes I know its a bit of Savings for the Ferries,not to sail up the Solent, but she never had the Docks, like we Had.[/p][/quote]The difference was that Southampton is a commercial dock, that refitted and maintained commercial ships. Portsmouth was a Royal dockyard, for the building and maintaining Royal Navy ships and has also built warships for foreign navies. They were not in competition. As you say, trains from Pompey were always full, but there were also plenty travelling in the reverse direction. The ferries to the Isle of Wight complement each other, but Southampton has the link to the Channel Islands, where the service to Spain goes from Portsmouth. Linesman
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2:23pm Tue 6 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Quote:- "Perhaps this initiative could be employed in other places where economic troubles exist"
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Nice try Philip G Hawkins ....... But this Tory led coalition government would need to treble the number of ministers to cope with that suggestion.
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.... and when you consider that the current ministers are about the best that this government can come up with ........ i wouldnt have much confidence in the shower that were left ........
Quote:- "Perhaps this initiative could be employed in other places where economic troubles exist" . Nice try Philip G Hawkins ....... But this Tory led coalition government would need to treble the number of ministers to cope with that suggestion. . .... and when you consider that the current ministers are about the best that this government can come up with ........ i wouldnt have much confidence in the shower that were left ........ Lone Ranger.
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