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I liked SeaCity museum
11:12am Thursday 24th May 2012 in Readers' Letters
I HAVE just visited the new SeaCity Museum and I thought it very good.
Southampton has very few attractions and this was badly needed. Now we need to sort out the Spitfire, maybe we could build another bit to the Civic Centre for that. Better still turn the whole building into a museum to cover everything of interest locally.
PETER BILLOWS, Southampton.
Comments(11)
loosehead
says...
4:15pm Thu 24 May 12
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
Linesman
says...
8:33pm Thu 24 May 12
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
loosehead
says...
9:04pm Thu 24 May 12
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
Linesman
says...
7:55am Fri 25 May 12
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Shoong
says...
10:46am Fri 25 May 12
Linesman wrote:But it's not a white elephant.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
You can shut your eyes really tightly & wish for it but that won't make it so.
loosehead
says...
12:20pm Fri 25 May 12
Linesman wrote:Exactly when did I say I didn't believe in a Sea City museum?
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Funny when you think my wife & I went to the Sea City Museum this morning & quite enjoyed it.
The term Loosehead is actually in full Loosehead Prop forward & it refers to the fact you should be able to break away in a scrum nothing to do with body parts,
Head being the head of the scrum not on the Torso so it makes me laugh when people make stupid ill informed comments like yours.
There was quite a few people there were a lot of school children plus their teachers so it seemed quite popular so exactly why do you ridicule it?
Linesman
says...
7:45pm Sun 27 May 12
loosehead wrote:I did not phrase that very well.
Linesman wrote:Exactly when did I say I didn't believe in a Sea City museum?
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Funny when you think my wife & I went to the Sea City Museum this morning & quite enjoyed it.
The term Loosehead is actually in full Loosehead Prop forward & it refers to the fact you should be able to break away in a scrum nothing to do with body parts,
Head being the head of the scrum not on the Torso so it makes me laugh when people make stupid ill informed comments like yours.
There was quite a few people there were a lot of school children plus their teachers so it seemed quite popular so exactly why do you ridicule it?
I was meaning that if someone sings praises of somehting that they do not believe in, then it shows their lack of honesty and integrity.
I did not mean you, specifically, but anyone who does that.
Also, apologies about your choice of name. Am not a follower of Rugby, Union or League, so was unaware that there was any such position.
I can quite understand that there were school children and their teachers at the museum, but my betting is that they did not pay any admission fee.
For the Museum to be a success, its income has to be greater than its outgoings. ie it makes a profit.
I have no doubt that at present, while it is new and in the news, the attendances will be high, but I forecast that in a year's time, the attendances will be lower and so will the income.
loosehead
says...
9:50pm Sun 27 May 12
Linesman wrote:Linesman I will accept your apology!
loosehead wrote:I did not phrase that very well.
Linesman wrote:Exactly when did I say I didn't believe in a Sea City museum?
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Funny when you think my wife & I went to the Sea City Museum this morning & quite enjoyed it.
The term Loosehead is actually in full Loosehead Prop forward & it refers to the fact you should be able to break away in a scrum nothing to do with body parts,
Head being the head of the scrum not on the Torso so it makes me laugh when people make stupid ill informed comments like yours.
There was quite a few people there were a lot of school children plus their teachers so it seemed quite popular so exactly why do you ridicule it?
I was meaning that if someone sings praises of somehting that they do not believe in, then it shows their lack of honesty and integrity.
I did not mean you, specifically, but anyone who does that.
Also, apologies about your choice of name. Am not a follower of Rugby, Union or League, so was unaware that there was any such position.
I can quite understand that there were school children and their teachers at the museum, but my betting is that they did not pay any admission fee.
For the Museum to be a success, its income has to be greater than its outgoings. ie it makes a profit.
I have no doubt that at present, while it is new and in the news, the attendances will be high, but I forecast that in a year's time, the attendances will be lower and so will the income.
As to the Sea City Museum there was a lot of Tourists in there ( Americans) .
I mentioned the school children as it's proving to be educational & they seemed to enjoy it.
I love interactive history & some of the actions the Tory council took in involving children in the Mayflower re-enactment & the Titanic parade was just the ticket,
I would like to see King Canute re-enactments with schools taking place & defence of the old castle walls from the French with school children involved.
I believe by having them take part they learn more & start to have pride in this their city.
if there was a re-enactment society & they wanted members if it was any of the above I would happily give up my time to assist,
this could be good for tourism & good for the childrens education
Linesman
says...
10:52pm Sun 27 May 12
loosehead wrote:I have no doubt that there were Tourists, American and others, when you visited, because Titanic has been in the news. It will not be the centenary of the disaster next year, so there will not be the same publicity, and with the position where the museum is, the visitor numbers will drop.
Linesman wrote:Linesman I will accept your apology!
loosehead wrote:I did not phrase that very well.
Linesman wrote:Exactly when did I say I didn't believe in a Sea City museum?
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Funny when you think my wife & I went to the Sea City Museum this morning & quite enjoyed it.
The term Loosehead is actually in full Loosehead Prop forward & it refers to the fact you should be able to break away in a scrum nothing to do with body parts,
Head being the head of the scrum not on the Torso so it makes me laugh when people make stupid ill informed comments like yours.
There was quite a few people there were a lot of school children plus their teachers so it seemed quite popular so exactly why do you ridicule it?
I was meaning that if someone sings praises of somehting that they do not believe in, then it shows their lack of honesty and integrity.
I did not mean you, specifically, but anyone who does that.
Also, apologies about your choice of name. Am not a follower of Rugby, Union or League, so was unaware that there was any such position.
I can quite understand that there were school children and their teachers at the museum, but my betting is that they did not pay any admission fee.
For the Museum to be a success, its income has to be greater than its outgoings. ie it makes a profit.
I have no doubt that at present, while it is new and in the news, the attendances will be high, but I forecast that in a year's time, the attendances will be lower and so will the income.
As to the Sea City Museum there was a lot of Tourists in there ( Americans) .
I mentioned the school children as it's proving to be educational & they seemed to enjoy it.
I love interactive history & some of the actions the Tory council took in involving children in the Mayflower re-enactment & the Titanic parade was just the ticket,
I would like to see King Canute re-enactments with schools taking place & defence of the old castle walls from the French with school children involved.
I believe by having them take part they learn more & start to have pride in this their city.
if there was a re-enactment society & they wanted members if it was any of the above I would happily give up my time to assist,
this could be good for tourism & good for the childrens education
I agree with you about the educational aspect, but having school children visiting is not going to balance the books.
I have never criticised the museum as being uninteresting, just that it is going to cost a hell of a lot more to run and maintian than it is going to receive from visitors. That is the reason why I say that it is a white elephant.
I maintain that the visitor numbers will be down by a considerable amount in a years time, but we will not know whether or not I am right until then. I hope, for the council tax payers, who will have to foot the short-fall, that I am wrong - but I very much doubt it.
loosehead
says...
11:49am Mon 28 May 12
Linesman wrote:So the old saying wait & see is very apt in this case?
loosehead wrote:I have no doubt that there were Tourists, American and others, when you visited, because Titanic has been in the news. It will not be the centenary of the disaster next year, so there will not be the same publicity, and with the position where the museum is, the visitor numbers will drop.
Linesman wrote:Linesman I will accept your apology!
loosehead wrote:I did not phrase that very well.
Linesman wrote:Exactly when did I say I didn't believe in a Sea City museum?
loosehead wrote:If you want to sing praises of something that you don't believe in, I think that just about sums up your honesty and integrity.
Linesman wrote:Maybe if people like you stop ridiculing it & maybe sing it's praise more people will continue to visit it.
loosehead wrote:Maybe it had not crossed your mind that Royston Smith's council had signed contracts and taken out loans to fund and feed this white elephant.
Shoong wrote:I'm still waiting for Labour to shut it down?
Blasphemy!
If this was such a waste of money as Labour stated surely it's better to stop throwing good money after bad or was it just another thing they lied about to get the publics vote?
The museum is there. You cannot 'un-build' it.
I have no doubt that Peter Billows, and many others who have visited the museum, have enjoyed the experience, but the test will be, how many make another visit.
The proof will be when the attendance figures are compared, week with with, in a year's time.
Then it would be making a profit & surely that's good news isn't it?
I am not going to sing the praises of something that I consider has been a gigantic waste of money, that was built to feed the ego of a very minor politician.
Do you really think that if I 'sang its praises' it would make one iota's difference to the number of people that pass through its doors?
If you do, then I can quite understand why you call yourself 'Loosehead.'
Funny when you think my wife & I went to the Sea City Museum this morning & quite enjoyed it.
The term Loosehead is actually in full Loosehead Prop forward & it refers to the fact you should be able to break away in a scrum nothing to do with body parts,
Head being the head of the scrum not on the Torso so it makes me laugh when people make stupid ill informed comments like yours.
There was quite a few people there were a lot of school children plus their teachers so it seemed quite popular so exactly why do you ridicule it?
I was meaning that if someone sings praises of somehting that they do not believe in, then it shows their lack of honesty and integrity.
I did not mean you, specifically, but anyone who does that.
Also, apologies about your choice of name. Am not a follower of Rugby, Union or League, so was unaware that there was any such position.
I can quite understand that there were school children and their teachers at the museum, but my betting is that they did not pay any admission fee.
For the Museum to be a success, its income has to be greater than its outgoings. ie it makes a profit.
I have no doubt that at present, while it is new and in the news, the attendances will be high, but I forecast that in a year's time, the attendances will be lower and so will the income.
As to the Sea City Museum there was a lot of Tourists in there ( Americans) .
I mentioned the school children as it's proving to be educational & they seemed to enjoy it.
I love interactive history & some of the actions the Tory council took in involving children in the Mayflower re-enactment & the Titanic parade was just the ticket,
I would like to see King Canute re-enactments with schools taking place & defence of the old castle walls from the French with school children involved.
I believe by having them take part they learn more & start to have pride in this their city.
if there was a re-enactment society & they wanted members if it was any of the above I would happily give up my time to assist,
this could be good for tourism & good for the childrens education
I agree with you about the educational aspect, but having school children visiting is not going to balance the books.
I have never criticised the museum as being uninteresting, just that it is going to cost a hell of a lot more to run and maintian than it is going to receive from visitors. That is the reason why I say that it is a white elephant.
I maintain that the visitor numbers will be down by a considerable amount in a years time, but we will not know whether or not I am right until then. I hope, for the council tax payers, who will have to foot the short-fall, that I am wrong - but I very much doubt it.
I would like the remains of Henry the V's warship were put on display as it's older than the Mary Rose & was light years ahead of all other countries.
the Echo said it was at a College/Uni ?
Shoong says...
2:45pm Thu 24 May 12