UKIP makes strongest election challenge in city

UKIP leader Nigel Farage

UKIP leader Nigel Farage

First published in News

UKIP is making its strongest challenge yet in the Winchester local elections.

The anti-Europe party is putting up 11 candidates in the 19 contests in the Winchester City Council election – a district which stretches from Micheldever to the edges of Portsmouth.

Its intervention could be important as the council is currently hung with the Conservatives and Lib Dems both on 27 seats, Labour on two and Independents on one.

At the last city council election in 2012 UKIP put up no candidates, two in 2011 and none in 2010.

UKIP is mainly contesting rural seats and are only fighting two in the six Winchester city wards during the election on May 22. Meanwhile the Greens are only contesting one seat while the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition are fighting two .

Former council leader Sheila Campbell is again contesting Swanmore and N e w t o w n , Karen Barratt, a former Lib Dem is standing as an independent in the St Paul ward.

Adrian Hicks, who memorably went public in 2009 with t h e sighting of an extra terrestrial in the High Street in 2004, is standing as an Independent in St John and All Saints. He resigned from the Lib Dems in 2011.

The Lib Dems are defending nine seats and the Conservatives, ten.

Several senior councillors are standing down: council leader Keith Wood and portfolio holder for housing Tony Coates, both Tories, former mayor Ray Pearce and fellow senior Lib Dem Brian Collin.

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3:20pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

Typical misconcenption.
We are not an 'anti Europe' party.
We are an anti EU party!
We want good relations & trade with Europe, but not to be ruled by it.
Typical misconcenption. We are not an 'anti Europe' party. We are an anti EU party! We want good relations & trade with Europe, but not to be ruled by it. Pobinr
  • Score: 20

5:11pm Sat 26 Apr 14

southy says...

mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts southy
  • Score: -9

5:26pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

The British people voted in 1975 for what was sold to them in distorted & biased form with two leaflets in favour & one against, as a 'Common Market'.

They did not vote for a federal Europe where we become a mere borderless state in the unelected EU commissioner's empire getting flooded with immigrants driving wages down making slumlords & employers who pay low wages richer whilst adding to the housing shortage, road congestion, NHS queues etc

In a television broadcast to mark Britain’s entry in January 1973, Prime Minister Edward Heath said:
“There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified”.

This was treachery & betrayal that continues to this day.

Who benefits from cheap imported labour?
Slumlords & low wage payers.
So how can people call UKIP 'right wing' when they are opposed to this ?

EU = Capitalist's wet dream brought to you courtesy of the left.

More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.

How the EU is dismantling democracy in Europe;

The unelected crooks & recycled Communists running the EU
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=YWSYMpuCF
aQ

Remote control by the EU
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=TtQt2IjeL
Vc

EU new Soviet Union ?
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=92Vjc_PeY
tc

The EU is the New Communism. It is Power without Limits
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=3RjUJy7k
DOM

We're now run by Big Banks,Big Business &Big Bureaucrats
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=750uBYcab
KI

Nigel Farage of UKIP Confronts the EU Commissioners
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=bJHETdxwv
8Y
The British people voted in 1975 for what was sold to them in distorted & biased form with two leaflets in favour & one against, as a 'Common Market'. They did not vote for a federal Europe where we become a mere borderless state in the unelected EU commissioner's empire getting flooded with immigrants driving wages down making slumlords & employers who pay low wages richer whilst adding to the housing shortage, road congestion, NHS queues etc In a television broadcast to mark Britain’s entry in January 1973, Prime Minister Edward Heath said: “There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified”. This was treachery & betrayal that continues to this day. Who benefits from cheap imported labour? Slumlords & low wage payers. So how can people call UKIP 'right wing' when they are opposed to this ? EU = Capitalist's wet dream brought to you courtesy of the left. More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent. How the EU is dismantling democracy in Europe; The unelected crooks & recycled Communists running the EU http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=YWSYMpuCF aQ Remote control by the EU http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=TtQt2IjeL Vc EU new Soviet Union ? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=92Vjc_PeY tc The EU is the New Communism. It is Power without Limits https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=3RjUJy7k DOM We're now run by Big Banks,Big Business &Big Bureaucrats http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=750uBYcab KI Nigel Farage of UKIP Confronts the EU Commissioners http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=bJHETdxwv 8Y Pobinr
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Sat 26 Apr 14

cowley says...

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
POWER TO THE PEOPLE! cowley
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Remind me, who are TUSC?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Remind me, who are TUSC? IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

6:13pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone.

If you don't vote don't complain.
Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone. If you don't vote don't complain. IronLady2010
  • Score: 11

6:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone.

If you don't vote don't complain.
so why do you complain
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone. If you don't vote don't complain.[/p][/quote]so why do you complain southy
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone.

If you don't vote don't complain.
so why do you complain
Where did I complain? Your mind is off on one again. You are thicker than my gate post ;-)
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone. If you don't vote don't complain.[/p][/quote]so why do you complain[/p][/quote]Where did I complain? Your mind is off on one again. You are thicker than my gate post ;-) IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

7:02pm Sat 26 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone.

If you don't vote don't complain.
I'll complain either way, no one worth voting for as they are alk self serving conmen (and women). The amount of mp's all the way down to councillors is amazing. We have more mp's in this country than the equivalent in America which is huge?

Much like immigrants having babies the minute they settle politicians keep increasing numbers to protect themselves. Go on vote UKIP and bloody a few noses.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone. If you don't vote don't complain.[/p][/quote]I'll complain either way, no one worth voting for as they are alk self serving conmen (and women). The amount of mp's all the way down to councillors is amazing. We have more mp's in this country than the equivalent in America which is huge? Much like immigrants having babies the minute they settle politicians keep increasing numbers to protect themselves. Go on vote UKIP and bloody a few noses. issacchunt
  • Score: 2

7:10pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

issacchunt wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone.

If you don't vote don't complain.
I'll complain either way, no one worth voting for as they are alk self serving conmen (and women). The amount of mp's all the way down to councillors is amazing. We have more mp's in this country than the equivalent in America which is huge?

Much like immigrants having babies the minute they settle politicians keep increasing numbers to protect themselves. Go on vote UKIP and bloody a few noses.
If you don't vote then you should shut up.Simple!
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Make sure you vote. None of this I won't vote because I don't like anyone. If you don't vote don't complain.[/p][/quote]I'll complain either way, no one worth voting for as they are alk self serving conmen (and women). The amount of mp's all the way down to councillors is amazing. We have more mp's in this country than the equivalent in America which is huge? Much like immigrants having babies the minute they settle politicians keep increasing numbers to protect themselves. Go on vote UKIP and bloody a few noses.[/p][/quote]If you don't vote then you should shut up.Simple! IronLady2010
  • Score: -1

7:13pm Sat 26 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up.
UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up. redsnapper
  • Score: -6

7:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

redsnapper wrote:
UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up.
Racists judge a group of people from a small sample of them then claim they are all the same!
That's exactly what you rae doing.
I am a member of UKIP. I haven't met any racists in it yet.
The chairperson of our branch is an Asian lady from Jamaica.
The party is open to all. Apart from racists!
When people are racists they are kicked out.
Get it
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up.[/p][/quote]Racists judge a group of people from a small sample of them then claim they are all the same! That's exactly what you rae doing. I am a member of UKIP. I haven't met any racists in it yet. The chairperson of our branch is an Asian lady from Jamaica. The party is open to all. Apart from racists! When people are racists they are kicked out. Get it Pobinr
  • Score: 2

7:59pm Sat 26 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.
Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

8:02pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

good-gosh wrote:
Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.
It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing.

Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc.

Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ?

The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes.
One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU.

EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.[/p][/quote]It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing. Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc. Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ? The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes. One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU. EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent. Pobinr
  • Score: 4

8:16pm Sat 26 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Pobinr wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.
It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing.

Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc.

Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ?

The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes.
One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU.

EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.
Raising the fear of foreigners/ immigrants is the constant UKIP message. Racist or just divisive whatever it is it is politics at its most nasty. With the exception of N Korea and a few other nut job states who reject all comers the world is a open to all and better for it. Nationalism is for the small minded.
[quote][p][bold]Pobinr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.[/p][/quote]It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing. Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc. Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ? The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes. One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU. EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.[/p][/quote]Raising the fear of foreigners/ immigrants is the constant UKIP message. Racist or just divisive whatever it is it is politics at its most nasty. With the exception of N Korea and a few other nut job states who reject all comers the world is a open to all and better for it. Nationalism is for the small minded. redsnapper
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Sat 26 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Pobinr wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up.
Racists judge a group of people from a small sample of them then claim they are all the same!
That's exactly what you rae doing.
I am a member of UKIP. I haven't met any racists in it yet.
The chairperson of our branch is an Asian lady from Jamaica.
The party is open to all. Apart from racists!
When people are racists they are kicked out.
Get it
That old chestnut again... We have a black lady so we can't be racist...

As I said the other day, Farage blamed immigration on damaging the "white working class" so why is he singling out this group? Votes perhaps?

They' also support civil partnerships but not gay marriage.

So the result from these two examples alone are UKIP are racist and homophobic. They deny equality to people unless you're white, British born and heterosexual.
[quote][p][bold]Pobinr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: UKIPPERS are a unhinged minority with an undertone of racism not far below the surface. Brits emigrate in similar numbers to those who come to Britain. The fact that UK border control is unfit for purpose and cannot count people in and count them out again is a British government failure, no one else's. As for UKIPs ability to manage...chuckle chuckle .....they cannot even organise a poster campaign without screwing up.[/p][/quote]Racists judge a group of people from a small sample of them then claim they are all the same! That's exactly what you rae doing. I am a member of UKIP. I haven't met any racists in it yet. The chairperson of our branch is an Asian lady from Jamaica. The party is open to all. Apart from racists! When people are racists they are kicked out. Get it[/p][/quote]That old chestnut again... We have a black lady so we can't be racist... As I said the other day, Farage blamed immigration on damaging the "white working class" so why is he singling out this group? Votes perhaps? They' also support civil partnerships but not gay marriage. So the result from these two examples alone are UKIP are racist and homophobic. They deny equality to people unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. sotonboy84
  • Score: 5

8:25pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Remind me, who are TUSC?
Southy will have you believe that his favourite bunch of fruit loops are soon to. take power but if you Google ' Eastleigh By-Election results 2013' and look at the online Guardian report, the truth is laid bare for all to see. Beaten to 13th out of 14 candidates and beaten soundly by people who openly admit that they stood as joke candidates, Southy knows he has backed the donkey in The Derby but remains in total denial. Come the May elections, come the ritual humiliation.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Remind me, who are TUSC?[/p][/quote]Southy will have you believe that his favourite bunch of fruit loops are soon to. take power but if you Google ' Eastleigh By-Election results 2013' and look at the online Guardian report, the truth is laid bare for all to see. Beaten to 13th out of 14 candidates and beaten soundly by people who openly admit that they stood as joke candidates, Southy knows he has backed the donkey in The Derby but remains in total denial. Come the May elections, come the ritual humiliation. Torchie1
  • Score: 4

8:33pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

redsnapper wrote:
Pobinr wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.
It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing.

Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc.

Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ?

The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes.
One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU.

EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.
Raising the fear of foreigners/ immigrants is the constant UKIP message. Racist or just divisive whatever it is it is politics at its most nasty. With the exception of N Korea and a few other nut job states who reject all comers the world is a open to all and better for it. Nationalism is for the small minded.
The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pobinr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Interesting how nationalist right UKIP seems to have woken up some of the disenfranchised fringes of the left. Fortunately, most voters are moderate and none of those will support UKIP – so UKIP, although theatrically entertaining, are wasting their time.[/p][/quote]It's a common misconception that UKIP are right wing. Over population due to mass immigration leads to housing shortages, more road congestion, longer NHS queues, loss of greenbelt, higher risk of power cuts, language problems, more dependence on food & energy imports so less self sufficiency etc etc. Please can someone explain to me why it's regarded by some as 'racist' or 'right wing' to be concerned about these things ? The only people that benefit from mass immigration are employers that pay junk wages & slumlords. The ordinary man in the street is left to put up with the above problems it causes. One could therefore argue it's the right wing that support mass immigration for cheap labour, whereas UKIP are a moderate party who oppose the undemocratic things imposed on us by the dictatorial undemocratic fanatics in the EU. EU = More & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.[/p][/quote]Raising the fear of foreigners/ immigrants is the constant UKIP message. Racist or just divisive whatever it is it is politics at its most nasty. With the exception of N Korea and a few other nut job states who reject all comers the world is a open to all and better for it. Nationalism is for the small minded.[/p][/quote]The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check. Torchie1
  • Score: -3

8:40pm Sat 26 Apr 14

House Sparrow says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Remind me, who are TUSC?
Taunton Ukelele Strummers Club

see www.tusc.co.uk
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Remind me, who are TUSC?[/p][/quote]Taunton Ukelele Strummers Club see www.tusc.co.uk House Sparrow
  • Score: 1

9:03pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

Torche
'Nationalism is for the small minded.'
So all people in poland, Hungary etc that strove for independance from Soviet Union centralised control where small minded then?
Please watch these, thanks >

EU = more & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent.

How the EU is dismantling democracy in Europe;

Remote control by the EU;
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=TtQt2IjeL
Vc

EU new Soviet Union ?;
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=92Vjc_PeY
tc

The unelected crooks & recycled Communists running the EU;
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=YWSYMpuCF
aQ

We're now run by Big Banks,Big Business &Big Bureaucrats;
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=750uBYcab
KI

Nigel Farage of UKIP Confronts the EU Commissioners;
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=bJHETdxwv
8Y
Torche 'Nationalism is for the small minded.' So all people in poland, Hungary etc that strove for independance from Soviet Union centralised control where small minded then? Please watch these, thanks > EU = more & more centralised control & a desire to impose political union on the people of Europe without their consent. How the EU is dismantling democracy in Europe; Remote control by the EU; http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=TtQt2IjeL Vc EU new Soviet Union ?; http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=92Vjc_PeY tc The unelected crooks & recycled Communists running the EU; http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=YWSYMpuCF aQ We're now run by Big Banks,Big Business &Big Bureaucrats; http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=750uBYcab KI Nigel Farage of UKIP Confronts the EU Commissioners; http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=bJHETdxwv 8Y Pobinr
  • Score: -5

9:08pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

Torche
'The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check.'

So what. Why shouldn't nations have the right to be selective who they let in? I have no beef with the fact I might need to apply for a visa to vist a country.

I respect that. Without proper immigration policy then a nation is no longer a separate nation. It's wide open to all good or bad!
Like taking the lock off your front door!
Torche 'The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check.' So what. Why shouldn't nations have the right to be selective who they let in? I have no beef with the fact I might need to apply for a visa to vist a country. I respect that. Without proper immigration policy then a nation is no longer a separate nation. It's wide open to all good or bad! Like taking the lock off your front door! Pobinr
  • Score: -3

9:09pm Sat 26 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society.
All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Pobinr says...

good-gosh wrote:
All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society.
Another UKIP expert venting their pre conceptions without checking the facts;

Pure common sense & fairness on the UK taxpayer from the UKIP website;
http://www.ukip.org/
issues

Protect Our Borders
issues_immigration.p
ng

• Regain control of our borders and of immigration - only possible by leaving the EU.

• Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.

• A points-based visa system and time-limited work permits.

• Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society.[/p][/quote]Another UKIP expert venting their pre conceptions without checking the facts; Pure common sense & fairness on the UK taxpayer from the UKIP website; http://www.ukip.org/ issues Protect Our Borders issues_immigration.p ng • Regain control of our borders and of immigration - only possible by leaving the EU. • Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it. • A points-based visa system and time-limited work permits. • Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK. Pobinr
  • Score: -4

9:42pm Sat 26 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Breaking news...more warped candidates showing their true colours;-

"Ukip is facing a fresh storm of controversy as further evidence emerged of racism among its local election candidates, including a suggestion by one that the comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country".
Breaking news...more warped candidates showing their true colours;- "Ukip is facing a fresh storm of controversy as further evidence emerged of racism among its local election candidates, including a suggestion by one that the comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country". redsnapper
  • Score: 2

9:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Pobinr wrote:
Torche
'The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check.'

So what. Why shouldn't nations have the right to be selective who they let in? I have no beef with the fact I might need to apply for a visa to vist a country.

I respect that. Without proper immigration policy then a nation is no longer a separate nation. It's wide open to all good or bad!
Like taking the lock off your front door!
I think you need to look back and then reply to the right post.
[quote][p][bold]Pobinr[/bold] wrote: Torche 'The world may be open for all to visit with the appropriate visa but it's certainly not open to settle in. Try walking in to countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the USA, the Caymans, Bermuda etc etc etc and announcing your intention to become a permanent citizen and I think there might be a reality check.' So what. Why shouldn't nations have the right to be selective who they let in? I have no beef with the fact I might need to apply for a visa to vist a country. I respect that. Without proper immigration policy then a nation is no longer a separate nation. It's wide open to all good or bad! Like taking the lock off your front door![/p][/quote]I think you need to look back and then reply to the right post. Torchie1
  • Score: 3

7:42am Sun 27 Apr 14

Cyber__Fug says...

redsnapper wrote:
Breaking news...more warped candidates showing their true colours;-

"Ukip is facing a fresh storm of controversy as further evidence emerged of racism among its local election candidates, including a suggestion by one that the comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country".
So he has to move to Birmingham ? I would wish that on Brummies despite their accent.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Breaking news...more warped candidates showing their true colours;- "Ukip is facing a fresh storm of controversy as further evidence emerged of racism among its local election candidates, including a suggestion by one that the comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country".[/p][/quote]So he has to move to Birmingham ? I would wish that on Brummies despite their accent. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: -2

9:47am Sun 27 Apr 14

jen1 says...

Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change
Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change jen1
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Sun 27 Apr 14

southy says...

jen1 wrote:
Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change
Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet.
Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change[/p][/quote]Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet. Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP southy
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Sun 27 Apr 14

southy says...

House Sparrow wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Remind me, who are TUSC?
Taunton Ukelele Strummers Club

see www.tusc.co.uk
Sparrow that made me smile a little even low I knew that they was out there
[quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Remind me, who are TUSC?[/p][/quote]Taunton Ukelele Strummers Club see www.tusc.co.uk[/p][/quote]Sparrow that made me smile a little even low I knew that they was out there southy
  • Score: -2

2:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Remind me, who are TUSC?
They make cheesy biscuits.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Remind me, who are TUSC?[/p][/quote]They make cheesy biscuits. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 2

5:51pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Dredd1 says...

southy wrote:
mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts
Is the TUSC a trade union outfit!? If so you have cocked up massively in supporting liblab I leave the useless cons off! As your EU gave a loan from taxpayers money to take the Ford plant to Turkey!! Vote liblabcon turkeys for Xmas!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: mean while in Southampton the TUSC have covered 15 of the 16 seats leaving the Coxford ward for Keith and the Councillors against cuts[/p][/quote]Is the TUSC a trade union outfit!? If so you have cocked up massively in supporting liblab I leave the useless cons off! As your EU gave a loan from taxpayers money to take the Ford plant to Turkey!! Vote liblabcon turkeys for Xmas! Dredd1
  • Score: 0

8:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change
Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet.
Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP
At it's height the Nazi Party had over 50 million members so it's make up probably included someone from most country's on earth, why stop at Poles, Russians and Arabs? I doubt if your Tusc party has any overseas members, if you have a spare five minutes, perhaps you could check?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change[/p][/quote]Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet. Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP[/p][/quote]At it's height the Nazi Party had over 50 million members so it's make up probably included someone from most country's on earth, why stop at Poles, Russians and Arabs? I doubt if your Tusc party has any overseas members, if you have a spare five minutes, perhaps you could check? Torchie1
  • Score: 1

1:16am Mon 28 Apr 14

Poppy22 says...

I don't see how managing the numbers of immigrants is racist. If it is, then Australia, Canada, the US, etc are racist by only letting in Brits who meet their criteria for entry (eg an occupation or business that is needed in that country and having the necessary finances to live once in the country). Common sense, not racism!
The other factor is that people emigrating are almost always the better-off ones with better jobs, so we've lost huge numbers of our experience people abroad (engineers have been working abroad in preference to in the UK for years now due to them not being properly valued in this country; now we're losing our IT/business managers/ project managers and the like - and no doubt many other well-qualified Brits - to places like Dubai). Many comfortably-well off people have also gone to enjoy retirement in France, Spain and the US etc because the quality of life here in comparison is now so poor, and because they don't like what is happening to this country.
So it's hardly a like-for-like exchange on the immigration/emigrati
on exchange!
Diane James has really shown how good a UKIP candidate can be. Many people will have voted for her in the Eastleigh By Elections (where she came very close to winning) on the strength of her as an individual (especially when compared with who we've ended up with as an MP and the "invisible" Conservative candidate!), and not because they support UKIP per se.
Good to see so many Lib Dems now becoming independent too (as long as they're not pretending to be independent just so they're not competing with other Lib Dems in the same area; if there's one thing I've learned in the last couple of years in this area, it's that the Lib Dems locally aren't known for their objectivity and honesty... eg, claiming to be protecting the countryside when they're protecting brownfield sites and destroying the true countryside. They certainly don't listen to anyone who disagrees with what they plan to do!).
All the candidates need to be more visible too. EG, "Eastleigh" comprises many people who never set foot in Eastleigh (preferring Southampton or Winchester), so the candidates need to be visible all around the different areas, not just the towns and city centres, and not just for photo shoots for the Press!
I don't see how managing the numbers of immigrants is racist. If it is, then Australia, Canada, the US, etc are racist by only letting in Brits who meet their criteria for entry (eg an occupation or business that is needed in that country and having the necessary finances to live once in the country). Common sense, not racism! The other factor is that people emigrating are almost always the better-off ones with better jobs, so we've lost huge numbers of our experience people abroad (engineers have been working abroad in preference to in the UK for years now due to them not being properly valued in this country; now we're losing our IT/business managers/ project managers and the like - and no doubt many other well-qualified Brits - to places like Dubai). Many comfortably-well off people have also gone to enjoy retirement in France, Spain and the US etc because the quality of life here in comparison is now so poor, and because they don't like what is happening to this country. So it's hardly a like-for-like exchange on the immigration/emigrati on exchange! Diane James has really shown how good a UKIP candidate can be. Many people will have voted for her in the Eastleigh By Elections (where she came very close to winning) on the strength of her as an individual (especially when compared with who we've ended up with as an MP and the "invisible" Conservative candidate!), and not because they support UKIP per se. Good to see so many Lib Dems now becoming independent too (as long as they're not pretending to be independent just so they're not competing with other Lib Dems in the same area; if there's one thing I've learned in the last couple of years in this area, it's that the Lib Dems locally aren't known for their objectivity and honesty... eg, claiming to be protecting the countryside when they're protecting brownfield sites and destroying the true countryside. They certainly don't listen to anyone who disagrees with what they plan to do!). All the candidates need to be more visible too. EG, "Eastleigh" comprises many people who never set foot in Eastleigh (preferring Southampton or Winchester), so the candidates need to be visible all around the different areas, not just the towns and city centres, and not just for photo shoots for the Press! Poppy22
  • Score: -1

7:59am Mon 28 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

southy wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change
Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet.
Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP
Nobody believes it was just Germans in that party. Not least because Hitler himself was Austrian.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Well I'll be voting for UKIP. I'm sick to death of the mess that this country is in and the rampant immigration. UKIP are the best hope for change[/p][/quote]Check up on your history and get it from books and not the internet. Check up how Hitler came to power and the kind of people who was controlling that party, its a misconception to say it was just Germans in that party because it was not. There small number Poles, Russians, Arabs and others, but they was still a Racist party, Its the same with UKIP[/p][/quote]Nobody believes it was just Germans in that party. Not least because Hitler himself was Austrian. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 2

8:02am Mon 28 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Poppy22 wrote:
I don't see how managing the numbers of immigrants is racist. If it is, then Australia, Canada, the US, etc are racist by only letting in Brits who meet their criteria for entry (eg an occupation or business that is needed in that country and having the necessary finances to live once in the country). Common sense, not racism!
The other factor is that people emigrating are almost always the better-off ones with better jobs, so we've lost huge numbers of our experience people abroad (engineers have been working abroad in preference to in the UK for years now due to them not being properly valued in this country; now we're losing our IT/business managers/ project managers and the like - and no doubt many other well-qualified Brits - to places like Dubai). Many comfortably-well off people have also gone to enjoy retirement in France, Spain and the US etc because the quality of life here in comparison is now so poor, and because they don't like what is happening to this country.
So it's hardly a like-for-like exchange on the immigration/emigrati

on exchange!
Diane James has really shown how good a UKIP candidate can be. Many people will have voted for her in the Eastleigh By Elections (where she came very close to winning) on the strength of her as an individual (especially when compared with who we've ended up with as an MP and the "invisible" Conservative candidate!), and not because they support UKIP per se.
Good to see so many Lib Dems now becoming independent too (as long as they're not pretending to be independent just so they're not competing with other Lib Dems in the same area; if there's one thing I've learned in the last couple of years in this area, it's that the Lib Dems locally aren't known for their objectivity and honesty... eg, claiming to be protecting the countryside when they're protecting brownfield sites and destroying the true countryside. They certainly don't listen to anyone who disagrees with what they plan to do!).
All the candidates need to be more visible too. EG, "Eastleigh" comprises many people who never set foot in Eastleigh (preferring Southampton or Winchester), so the candidates need to be visible all around the different areas, not just the towns and city centres, and not just for photo shoots for the Press!
Nobody is saying that management of immigration is racist. The point is that racists are using immigrant management as a banner behind which to hide their racism.
[quote][p][bold]Poppy22[/bold] wrote: I don't see how managing the numbers of immigrants is racist. If it is, then Australia, Canada, the US, etc are racist by only letting in Brits who meet their criteria for entry (eg an occupation or business that is needed in that country and having the necessary finances to live once in the country). Common sense, not racism! The other factor is that people emigrating are almost always the better-off ones with better jobs, so we've lost huge numbers of our experience people abroad (engineers have been working abroad in preference to in the UK for years now due to them not being properly valued in this country; now we're losing our IT/business managers/ project managers and the like - and no doubt many other well-qualified Brits - to places like Dubai). Many comfortably-well off people have also gone to enjoy retirement in France, Spain and the US etc because the quality of life here in comparison is now so poor, and because they don't like what is happening to this country. So it's hardly a like-for-like exchange on the immigration/emigrati on exchange! Diane James has really shown how good a UKIP candidate can be. Many people will have voted for her in the Eastleigh By Elections (where she came very close to winning) on the strength of her as an individual (especially when compared with who we've ended up with as an MP and the "invisible" Conservative candidate!), and not because they support UKIP per se. Good to see so many Lib Dems now becoming independent too (as long as they're not pretending to be independent just so they're not competing with other Lib Dems in the same area; if there's one thing I've learned in the last couple of years in this area, it's that the Lib Dems locally aren't known for their objectivity and honesty... eg, claiming to be protecting the countryside when they're protecting brownfield sites and destroying the true countryside. They certainly don't listen to anyone who disagrees with what they plan to do!). All the candidates need to be more visible too. EG, "Eastleigh" comprises many people who never set foot in Eastleigh (preferring Southampton or Winchester), so the candidates need to be visible all around the different areas, not just the towns and city centres, and not just for photo shoots for the Press![/p][/quote]Nobody is saying that management of immigration is racist. The point is that racists are using immigrant management as a banner behind which to hide their racism. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Tue 29 Apr 14

hushrosie says...

We have to leave the Evil Union, general elections are no longer a democratic process, they only determine which EU puppet will rubber stamp everything that comes in from Brussels. Our politicians have been rendered politically impotent; a vote for any one of the 3 mainstream parties is a vote the EU. At the moment we have a lot of mistrust for politicians, we don’t believe they are honest or sincere nor have our interests at heart, that’s because they don’t, but as it stands we can vote them out!
But if we allow the European Elections and the 2015 General Elections to slip by without sending them a huge message, then that will be a massive mistake and a missed opportunity we will never get back! The other parties, the politicians, TV, the media, they are trying to dig as much dirt up about ukip as they can, they are terrified about the support they are receiving, lets show them who is boss! Lets take our country back people with UKIP’s support and return it to a democracy, you don’t have to fight a war, just put your cross in the right box .Vote UKIP Get UKIP.
We have to leave the Evil Union, general elections are no longer a democratic process, they only determine which EU puppet will rubber stamp everything that comes in from Brussels. Our politicians have been rendered politically impotent; a vote for any one of the 3 mainstream parties is a vote the EU. At the moment we have a lot of mistrust for politicians, we don’t believe they are honest or sincere nor have our interests at heart, that’s because they don’t, but as it stands we can vote them out! But if we allow the European Elections and the 2015 General Elections to slip by without sending them a huge message, then that will be a massive mistake and a missed opportunity we will never get back! The other parties, the politicians, TV, the media, they are trying to dig as much dirt up about ukip as they can, they are terrified about the support they are receiving, lets show them who is boss! Lets take our country back people with UKIP’s support and return it to a democracy, you don’t have to fight a war, just put your cross in the right box .Vote UKIP Get UKIP. hushrosie
  • Score: 0

8:05am Thu 1 May 14

Pobinr says...

good-gosh wrote:
All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society.
Who said slam the doors shut?
UKIP is not anti immigration. It's anti uncontrolled immigration.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: All parties are concerned with demographic management but UKIP can't be bothered with the complexity and propose slamming all the doors shut instead - not the way to run a free society.[/p][/quote]Who said slam the doors shut? UKIP is not anti immigration. It's anti uncontrolled immigration. Pobinr
  • Score: 1

1:50pm Thu 1 May 14

Pobinr says...

Edward Heath mis-sold the European Union to us as a 'Common Market' in the 1975 EU referendum.
It's turned into the European Union & is now becoming a Federal Europe.
Under mis-selling rules please can we have our country back & the money too.
40 years at todays prices about 40 x £11bn net = £440bn.
Edward Heath mis-sold the European Union to us as a 'Common Market' in the 1975 EU referendum. It's turned into the European Union & is now becoming a Federal Europe. Under mis-selling rules please can we have our country back & the money too. 40 years at todays prices about 40 x £11bn net = £440bn. Pobinr
  • Score: 1

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