City Tory leader Royston Smith launches campaign to become Southampton Itchen MP

Daily Echo: Southampton's Tory leader launches bid to become MP Southampton's Tory leader launches bid to become MP

Southampton’s Tory party leader has today launched his bid to become the next MP for the city’s Itchen seat.

Royston Smith launched his General Election campaign with the help of a team of supporters who spent the day leafleting thousands of homes across the city.

Cllr Smith contested the seat in 2010, narrowly losing out to Labour MP and former minister John Denham by 192 votes.

Mr Denham has served as MP in the city for the past 23 years alongside his colleague and fellow Labour MP Alan Whitehead who represents Southampton Test. He is set to retire from Parliament next year.

Speaking about why he is bidding to take the seat, Cllr Smith said: " I want to stand for Parliament to represent the many people I have lived with, grown up with, worked with and at times, struggled with.

“I want to represent Southampton because I live here - I don’t live here in order to win a seat in Parliament. There is more than a subtle difference.”

Cllr Smith will be in the running against Labour candidate Rowena Davis, a former Peckham councillor who now lives in Bitterne Park.

He said: "Southampton is where I was born and have lived for most of my life, but for a stint in the Royal Air Force. Southampton is home for me and my family. That is why I want to represent this constituency in Parliament."

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5:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

WarwickNights says...

All fine and noble credentials but he's still a Tory....
All fine and noble credentials but he's still a Tory.... WarwickNights
  • Score: 11

5:25pm Sat 5 Jul 14

SotonGreen says...

Going to be a tough gig, failed at arguably Labour's low point for a generation. Who is going to back a confirmed loser second time around ?
Going to be a tough gig, failed at arguably Labour's low point for a generation. Who is going to back a confirmed loser second time around ? SotonGreen
  • Score: 14

5:43pm Sat 5 Jul 14

james47 says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Going to be a tough gig, failed at arguably Labour's low point for a generation. Who is going to back a confirmed loser second time around ?
By Loser I assume you mean Ed Miliband?

http://www.express.c
o.uk/news/uk/431996/
60-of-voters-say-Lab
our-leader-Ed-Miliba
nd-s-a-loser
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Going to be a tough gig, failed at arguably Labour's low point for a generation. Who is going to back a confirmed loser second time around ?[/p][/quote]By Loser I assume you mean Ed Miliband? http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/431996/ 60-of-voters-say-Lab our-leader-Ed-Miliba nd-s-a-loser james47
  • Score: -4

5:48pm Sat 5 Jul 14

BeyondImagination says...

None of the above thank you.
None of the above thank you. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 8

6:44pm Sat 5 Jul 14

StevenGalton says...

Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best! StevenGalton
  • Score: -14

7:14pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Watcher says...

I presume Cllr Smith's jibes about moving here to secure a seat would also apply to the fine Member of Parliament for Christchurch and formerly Southampton Itchen, namely Christopher Chope.
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It would of course also apply to a huge number of MPs across the Political Spectrum.
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But then again, this is par for the course for someone who is big on sound bites, but short of subsume.
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Oh for an Alec Samuels or even Chope himself. The local Conservative Party need reinvigorating.
I presume Cllr Smith's jibes about moving here to secure a seat would also apply to the fine Member of Parliament for Christchurch and formerly Southampton Itchen, namely Christopher Chope. . It would of course also apply to a huge number of MPs across the Political Spectrum. . But then again, this is par for the course for someone who is big on sound bites, but short of subsume. . Oh for an Alec Samuels or even Chope himself. The local Conservative Party need reinvigorating. The Watcher
  • Score: 9

7:32pm Sat 5 Jul 14

southy says...

Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else. southy
  • Score: -1

8:45pm Sat 5 Jul 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP.
Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP?
Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote]Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP. Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP? Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP? loosehead
  • Score: -11

8:54pm Sat 5 Jul 14

loosehead says...

Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader) said Labour would listen to the people?
In the Euro elections UKIP hammered the rest so why is it Labour refuses a referendum ?
They say they know what's best for the voters & the voters are wrong about a referendum is that listening to the voters?
Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it.
Before when elected the said they'd tackle the welfare system but never did.
They said they'd tackle final salary pensions in the public sector but never did.
When this Government ring fenced the NHS & implemented changes to release more money to front line staff Labour opposed it as they would have made cuts to the NHS budget but are now using the NHS as a political weapon to win votes?
Under Labour I spent 7hours waiting for stitches at A&E & they're complaining about 4 hours ?
Whitehead has done nothing for us Denham we only hear from before the election.
Royston has shown he'll fight for what he believes in & he believes in Southampton so we Know he'll fight for us.
Now who's standing for Test?
Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader) said Labour would listen to the people? In the Euro elections UKIP hammered the rest so why is it Labour refuses a referendum ? They say they know what's best for the voters & the voters are wrong about a referendum is that listening to the voters? Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it. Before when elected the said they'd tackle the welfare system but never did. They said they'd tackle final salary pensions in the public sector but never did. When this Government ring fenced the NHS & implemented changes to release more money to front line staff Labour opposed it as they would have made cuts to the NHS budget but are now using the NHS as a political weapon to win votes? Under Labour I spent 7hours waiting for stitches at A&E & they're complaining about 4 hours ? Whitehead has done nothing for us Denham we only hear from before the election. Royston has shown he'll fight for what he believes in & he believes in Southampton so we Know he'll fight for us. Now who's standing for Test? loosehead
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Sat 5 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable. freefinker
  • Score: 6

12:36am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe) southy
  • Score: -7

12:42am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP.
Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP?
Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?
There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote]Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP. Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP? Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?[/p][/quote]There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government southy
  • Score: -5

12:51am Sun 6 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get. freefinker
  • Score: 7

1:23am Sun 6 Jul 14

BeyondImagination says...

None of the above thank you
None of the above thank you BeyondImagination
  • Score: 1

1:40am Sun 6 Jul 14

mr.southampton says...

It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows.

To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster.

Royston will just be lobby-fodder
It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows. To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster. Royston will just be lobby-fodder mr.southampton
  • Score: 8

7:41am Sun 6 Jul 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP.
Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP?
Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?
There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government
Well the TUSC isn't a real alternative so that's one party out of it isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote]Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP. Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP? Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?[/p][/quote]There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government[/p][/quote]Well the TUSC isn't a real alternative so that's one party out of it isn't it? loosehead
  • Score: -1

7:47am Sun 6 Jul 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

rothschilds blue ,yellow or red ,thats the choice.
rothschilds blue ,yellow or red ,thats the choice. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -1

7:49am Sun 6 Jul 14

loosehead says...

mr.southampton wrote:
It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows.

To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster.

Royston will just be lobby-fodder
So let's get this straight! Our local Labour party didn't think our men were up to the job of MP so created a female only short list (sexism?) only then to decide our female councillors weren't up to the job so selected a councillor from Peckham & she looks like a good candidate?
Was she really selected by the local party or did Labour head office insist on her selection?
Who decided that the people of Itchen didn't get the best PERSON but a female?
With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest.
What a lot of voters fail to realise is instead of going the pay cut route to save jobs he could have gone the Labour way & implemented fortnightly bin collections & cut jobs but he wanted to save jobs & cut costs so his council actually applied for a grant which Labour ended up being the beneficiaries of.
[quote][p][bold]mr.southampton[/bold] wrote: It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows. To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster. Royston will just be lobby-fodder[/p][/quote]So let's get this straight! Our local Labour party didn't think our men were up to the job of MP so created a female only short list (sexism?) only then to decide our female councillors weren't up to the job so selected a councillor from Peckham & she looks like a good candidate? Was she really selected by the local party or did Labour head office insist on her selection? Who decided that the people of Itchen didn't get the best PERSON but a female? With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest. What a lot of voters fail to realise is instead of going the pay cut route to save jobs he could have gone the Labour way & implemented fortnightly bin collections & cut jobs but he wanted to save jobs & cut costs so his council actually applied for a grant which Labour ended up being the beneficiaries of. loosehead
  • Score: -5

9:23am Sun 6 Jul 14

skeptik says...

Many years being involved in elections has taught me one thing, do not bet on the outcome of an election in a years times using todays form book. Many a hurdle to jump or to fall at yet.
Many years being involved in elections has taught me one thing, do not bet on the outcome of an election in a years times using todays form book. Many a hurdle to jump or to fall at yet. skeptik
  • Score: 1

9:51am Sun 6 Jul 14

tootle says...

Whether he gets in or not depends on the voters. however he is a personality, love him, hate him, agree or disagree with him he would certainly make his presence, and the existence of Southampton, felt. It will depend mainly on the UKIP candidate I feel and they haven't even declared one yet. Agree with Loosehead - women only shortlists have had their day and are, in my opinion an insult to women of ability. The Labour candidate could be outstanding but the mere fact that she had to be selected on a women only list would make me assume the opposite. Look at the women in Parliament today and compare them to the ones who had to fight tooth and nail to get there...............
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Whether he gets in or not depends on the voters. however he is a personality, love him, hate him, agree or disagree with him he would certainly make his presence, and the existence of Southampton, felt. It will depend mainly on the UKIP candidate I feel and they haven't even declared one yet. Agree with Loosehead - women only shortlists have had their day and are, in my opinion an insult to women of ability. The Labour candidate could be outstanding but the mere fact that she had to be selected on a women only list would make me assume the opposite. Look at the women in Parliament today and compare them to the ones who had to fight tooth and nail to get there............... .................... ... tootle
  • Score: -5

10:55am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton southy
  • Score: -5

11:07am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place.
Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place. Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about. southy
  • Score: -2

11:15am Sun 6 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
You are wrong, FULL STOP.
JD chose to resign his local council seat.
Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant.
The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England.
You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue.
Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]You are wrong, FULL STOP. JD chose to resign his local council seat. Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant. The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England. You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue. Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!). freefinker
  • Score: 6

11:17am Sun 6 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place.
Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about.
.. yea, sure. And I've just seen a pig fly past my window.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place. Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about.[/p][/quote].. yea, sure. And I've just seen a pig fly past my window. freefinker
  • Score: 3

11:18am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP.
Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP?
Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?
There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government
Well the TUSC isn't a real alternative so that's one party out of it isn't it?
Depends on who is selected Loose (but as a whole the TUSC are the only real alternative they are the only one's offering a different policy, all other party's policy offer the same but applied in there way). But like as all ways the TUSC will leave it to the last minute to decide, should the TUSC stand then they will pick up the Labour revolt votes or they will no vote at all.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote]Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP. Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP? Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?[/p][/quote]There will be many Labour voter that will revolt against the Labour Party many do not like what as happen here in Southampton and many do not like what Milliband as said, But they will not be voting UKIP not this time round as there will be a mreal alternative on offer, it is very possoble to see the first UKIP MP will depend on how many will abanding the Tory's, there days are numbered, they most certainly lost the next General Election and it will be a case of to who they will lose to, very good chance of seeing another hung Government[/p][/quote]Well the TUSC isn't a real alternative so that's one party out of it isn't it?[/p][/quote]Depends on who is selected Loose (but as a whole the TUSC are the only real alternative they are the only one's offering a different policy, all other party's policy offer the same but applied in there way). But like as all ways the TUSC will leave it to the last minute to decide, should the TUSC stand then they will pick up the Labour revolt votes or they will no vote at all. southy
  • Score: -2

11:29am Sun 6 Jul 14

freefinker says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
You are wrong, FULL STOP.
JD chose to resign his local council seat.
Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant.
The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England.
You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue.
Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).
.. or alternatively look up this link: -

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Portsmouth_
local_elections

Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010?

Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South.

Well, well, well, who would believe that?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]You are wrong, FULL STOP. JD chose to resign his local council seat. Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant. The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England. You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue. Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).[/p][/quote].. or alternatively look up this link: - http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Portsmouth_ local_elections Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010? Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South. Well, well, well, who would believe that? freefinker
  • Score: 6

11:51am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
You are wrong, FULL STOP.
JD chose to resign his local council seat.
Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant.
The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England.
You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue.
Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).
.. or alternatively look up this link: -

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Portsmouth_

local_elections

Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010?

Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South.

Well, well, well, who would believe that?
Portsmouth rules are a little bit Different to Southampton, Last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant just under a year, In last few years we had 2 other vacant seats both was vacant for under a year, 1 was a Tory (the Tory party was reminded of the rule by the Mayor in the Council Chambers) the other was Labour (which a by-election happen this year local elections). Each Council in England have there own variations they are not all exactly the same
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]You are wrong, FULL STOP. JD chose to resign his local council seat. Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant. The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England. You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue. Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).[/p][/quote].. or alternatively look up this link: - http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Portsmouth_ local_elections Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010? Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South. Well, well, well, who would believe that?[/p][/quote]Portsmouth rules are a little bit Different to Southampton, Last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant just under a year, In last few years we had 2 other vacant seats both was vacant for under a year, 1 was a Tory (the Tory party was reminded of the rule by the Mayor in the Council Chambers) the other was Labour (which a by-election happen this year local elections). Each Council in England have there own variations they are not all exactly the same southy
  • Score: -4

11:55am Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place.
Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about.
.. yea, sure. And I've just seen a pig fly past my window.
Yea I did not think you would stop speading false rumours about, seems to be the norm for you in what i hear
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]And also you are lieing when you say deselected by the TUSC, just shows how much you know, A person has to return and put his name forward for selection, and as I have not attended a TUSC branch meeting for over a year, Because I have other commitments to attend to, my name never went forward for selection in the first place. Let me know when you stop spreading false rumours about.[/p][/quote].. yea, sure. And I've just seen a pig fly past my window.[/p][/quote]Yea I did not think you would stop speading false rumours about, seems to be the norm for you in what i hear southy
  • Score: -2

12:43pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected.

How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster?
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best![/p][/quote]They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected. How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster? Linesman
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP.
Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP?
Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?
I think you need to get your hearing checked as the recent council election results were at variance with what you Think you heard.

Most people have come to the conclusion that the results reflected the electorate's dissatisfaction with the way Royston Smith's administration had mismanaged the city.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote]Southy from what I've heard many Labour supporters who are Anti EU after hearing Millibands thoughts on the subject are now turning to UKIP. Could be very interesting to see how many from each party switch allegiance to UKIP? Maybe we'll get a UKIP MP?[/p][/quote]I think you need to get your hearing checked as the recent council election results were at variance with what you Think you heard. Most people have come to the conclusion that the results reflected the electorate's dissatisfaction with the way Royston Smith's administration had mismanaged the city. Linesman
  • Score: 2

1:03pm Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

Linesman wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected.

How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster?
Lines it is Greed that motivates Royston Smith Greed to line his own pockets
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best![/p][/quote]They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected. How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster?[/p][/quote]Lines it is Greed that motivates Royston Smith Greed to line his own pockets southy
  • Score: 2

1:06pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader) said Labour would listen to the people?
In the Euro elections UKIP hammered the rest so why is it Labour refuses a referendum ?
They say they know what's best for the voters & the voters are wrong about a referendum is that listening to the voters?
Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it.
Before when elected the said they'd tackle the welfare system but never did.
They said they'd tackle final salary pensions in the public sector but never did.
When this Government ring fenced the NHS & implemented changes to release more money to front line staff Labour opposed it as they would have made cuts to the NHS budget but are now using the NHS as a political weapon to win votes?
Under Labour I spent 7hours waiting for stitches at A&E & they're complaining about 4 hours ?
Whitehead has done nothing for us Denham we only hear from before the election.
Royston has shown he'll fight for what he believes in & he believes in Southampton so we Know he'll fight for us.
Now who's standing for Test?
"Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader)"

I am a member of the Labour Party, retired and not a member of a Union, but I, like other non-union, party members, had a vote in the leadership election.

"Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it."

When electioneering, Cameron promised 'the NHS will be safe in our hands', but the deterioration in services is plain to see, with increased waiting times to see a consultant and for surgery.

The QA Hospital in Portsmouth had a special ward for the terminally ill. Within weeks of Cameron coming to power, the ward was closed. Despite claiming that it was being done on the grounds of efficiency and not as a cost-cutting measure, that ward has not been 'rented out to a private health group'. Privatisation by stealth!

He visited Afghanistan and Iraq, promising the troops that he was behind them, and their welfare was important to him. That was the Talk - the Action was to make troops, coming up for retirement on pension, to be made redundant, and replaced by reservists.

"Under Labour I spent 7 hours waiting for stitches at A&E."

I can only assume that was when Labour had just taken over from the Tories. Either that or nobody wanted to treat you. Let's face it, you have not won many friends on this site, and I cannot imagine that you would win many in a 'face to face' situation.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader) said Labour would listen to the people? In the Euro elections UKIP hammered the rest so why is it Labour refuses a referendum ? They say they know what's best for the voters & the voters are wrong about a referendum is that listening to the voters? Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it. Before when elected the said they'd tackle the welfare system but never did. They said they'd tackle final salary pensions in the public sector but never did. When this Government ring fenced the NHS & implemented changes to release more money to front line staff Labour opposed it as they would have made cuts to the NHS budget but are now using the NHS as a political weapon to win votes? Under Labour I spent 7hours waiting for stitches at A&E & they're complaining about 4 hours ? Whitehead has done nothing for us Denham we only hear from before the election. Royston has shown he'll fight for what he believes in & he believes in Southampton so we Know he'll fight for us. Now who's standing for Test?[/p][/quote]"Ed Milliband when elected by the Unions (leader)" I am a member of the Labour Party, retired and not a member of a Union, but I, like other non-union, party members, had a vote in the leadership election. "Every General Election Labour promises the Earth but never gives it." When electioneering, Cameron promised 'the NHS will be safe in our hands', but the deterioration in services is plain to see, with increased waiting times to see a consultant and for surgery. The QA Hospital in Portsmouth had a special ward for the terminally ill. Within weeks of Cameron coming to power, the ward was closed. Despite claiming that it was being done on the grounds of efficiency and not as a cost-cutting measure, that ward has not been 'rented out to a private health group'. Privatisation by stealth! He visited Afghanistan and Iraq, promising the troops that he was behind them, and their welfare was important to him. That was the Talk - the Action was to make troops, coming up for retirement on pension, to be made redundant, and replaced by reservists. "Under Labour I spent 7 hours waiting for stitches at A&E." I can only assume that was when Labour had just taken over from the Tories. Either that or nobody wanted to treat you. Let's face it, you have not won many friends on this site, and I cannot imagine that you would win many in a 'face to face' situation. Linesman
  • Score: 4

1:08pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
You are Wrong Southy.

Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]You are Wrong Southy. Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections. Linesman
  • Score: 5

1:11pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected.

How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster?
Lines it is Greed that motivates Royston Smith Greed to line his own pockets
I can't argue with your conclusion on that southy.

I would add that he is a nobody who thinks he is a somebody.

I have always found it difficult to take seriously, anyone who thinks they are fooling people by having a 'comb over' of their bald head.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best![/p][/quote]They did not appear to be when he was Leader of the City Council, and the streets were full of rubbish that had not been collected. How much more damage could he do to the city if he were at Westminster?[/p][/quote]Lines it is Greed that motivates Royston Smith Greed to line his own pockets[/p][/quote]I can't argue with your conclusion on that southy. I would add that he is a nobody who thinks he is a somebody. I have always found it difficult to take seriously, anyone who thinks they are fooling people by having a 'comb over' of their bald head. Linesman
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong.

Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP.

Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.
No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton
You are wrong, FULL STOP.
JD chose to resign his local council seat.
Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant.
The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England.
You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue.
Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).
.. or alternatively look up this link: -

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Portsmouth_


local_elections

Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010?

Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South.

Well, well, well, who would believe that?
Portsmouth rules are a little bit Different to Southampton, Last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant just under a year, In last few years we had 2 other vacant seats both was vacant for under a year, 1 was a Tory (the Tory party was reminded of the rule by the Mayor in the Council Chambers) the other was Labour (which a by-election happen this year local elections). Each Council in England have there own variations they are not all exactly the same
With your understanding of politics, even at the most basic local level, it's no wonder no-one will touch you with a barge pole.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]No, no, no, and no. You are wrong, wrong and wrong. Mike Hancock remained an MP, Hampshire County Councillor and Portsmouth City Councillor for a number of years. Indeed he was even Leader of HCC when the LibDems were in power; as well as being an MP. After Portsmouth obtained unitary status he continued to be both MP and Portsmouth City councillor right up to the local elections in May this year when he lost his local seat. There is NO requirement whatsoever to give up ANY local council seat on becoming an MP. Yet again you show your ignorance of this country's electoral systems. It is no wonder you were deselected by 'the TUSC' - what a demoralising action that was for you from a party usually so desperate for any candidates they can get.[/p][/quote]No your wrong Free, last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant for a year, please learn a little, Mike Hancock seat was left vacant, Portsmouth rules are little bit different to Southampton[/p][/quote]You are wrong, FULL STOP. JD chose to resign his local council seat. Mike Hancock's chose not to and his local seat was NOT left vacant. The rules are EXACTLY the same throughout England. You have an internet connection, obviously. Now use it to educate yourself on this issue. Or, just ask Paramjit; you have his email. He'll confirm exactly what I'm saying and then you can come back and admit you got it wrong (some hope!!).[/p][/quote].. or alternatively look up this link: - http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Portsmouth_ local_elections Now, tell me, who was elected for Fratton ward in 2002, 2006, and 2010? Oh dear!! I do believe it was none other than Mike Hancock - the sitting MP for Portsmouth South. Well, well, well, who would believe that?[/p][/quote]Portsmouth rules are a little bit Different to Southampton, Last time it happen here in Southampton was with JD, His council seat was left vacant just under a year, In last few years we had 2 other vacant seats both was vacant for under a year, 1 was a Tory (the Tory party was reminded of the rule by the Mayor in the Council Chambers) the other was Labour (which a by-election happen this year local elections). Each Council in England have there own variations they are not all exactly the same[/p][/quote]With your understanding of politics, even at the most basic local level, it's no wonder no-one will touch you with a barge pole. Shoong
  • Score: 1

2:29pm Sun 6 Jul 14

southy says...

Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
You are Wrong Southy.

Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.
Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years.
The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]You are Wrong Southy. Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.[/p][/quote]Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years. The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth southy
  • Score: -5

5:00pm Sun 6 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
You are Wrong Southy.

Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.
Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years.
The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth
THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least.

What bit of that do you not understand?

The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections.

You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit).
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]You are Wrong Southy. Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.[/p][/quote]Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years. The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth[/p][/quote]THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least. What bit of that do you not understand? The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections. You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit). freefinker
  • Score: 5

5:10pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
mr.southampton wrote:
It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows.

To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster.

Royston will just be lobby-fodder
So let's get this straight! Our local Labour party didn't think our men were up to the job of MP so created a female only short list (sexism?) only then to decide our female councillors weren't up to the job so selected a councillor from Peckham & she looks like a good candidate?
Was she really selected by the local party or did Labour head office insist on her selection?
Who decided that the people of Itchen didn't get the best PERSON but a female?
With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest.
What a lot of voters fail to realise is instead of going the pay cut route to save jobs he could have gone the Labour way & implemented fortnightly bin collections & cut jobs but he wanted to save jobs & cut costs so his council actually applied for a grant which Labour ended up being the beneficiaries of.
Another example of loosehead showing his ignorance.

He has no idea of Labour's selection process.

By the same token, he can see no fault in his beloved Royston Smith, saying, "With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest."

He certainly did stick with his policies. A policy that saw rubbish rotting in the streets because he was too arrogant and pig-headed to negotiate. So full of his own grandiose ideas that, despite warnings of cost and being sited in the wrong area, he pushed ahead with the Sea City Museum, that is not a financial millstone around the neck of this, and future administrations. He is a person who, like loosehead himself, thinks that he is always right, and cannot accept advice.

He was a failure as Leader of the City Council, and in my opinion, would be a disaster as a Member of Parliament.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.southampton[/bold] wrote: It's fairly typical of Royston to go for the low blows. To me Rowena looks like a good candidate, who like John Denham will go on to get noticed at Westminster. Royston will just be lobby-fodder[/p][/quote]So let's get this straight! Our local Labour party didn't think our men were up to the job of MP so created a female only short list (sexism?) only then to decide our female councillors weren't up to the job so selected a councillor from Peckham & she looks like a good candidate? Was she really selected by the local party or did Labour head office insist on her selection? Who decided that the people of Itchen didn't get the best PERSON but a female? With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest. What a lot of voters fail to realise is instead of going the pay cut route to save jobs he could have gone the Labour way & implemented fortnightly bin collections & cut jobs but he wanted to save jobs & cut costs so his council actually applied for a grant which Labour ended up being the beneficiaries of.[/p][/quote]Another example of loosehead showing his ignorance. He has no idea of Labour's selection process. By the same token, he can see no fault in his beloved Royston Smith, saying, "With Royston you get a person who no matter if you disagree with his policies he sticks by them if he thinks it's in this cities best interest." He certainly did stick with his policies. A policy that saw rubbish rotting in the streets because he was too arrogant and pig-headed to negotiate. So full of his own grandiose ideas that, despite warnings of cost and being sited in the wrong area, he pushed ahead with the Sea City Museum, that is not a financial millstone around the neck of this, and future administrations. He is a person who, like loosehead himself, thinks that he is always right, and cannot accept advice. He was a failure as Leader of the City Council, and in my opinion, would be a disaster as a Member of Parliament. Linesman
  • Score: 4

5:29pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
...... But you would say that wouldnt you ....... hardly support from a neutral is it ....
.
You obviously see something that the residents of this City dont .... Did you not see the piles of rubbish in the streets ....... Did you not know that the Sea Museum has proven to be a failure built with taxpayers money which we are having to pay all over again for.
.
Perhaps you can explain EXACTLY what it is that makes you think Cllr Smith would EVER be an asset to this City
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best![/p][/quote]...... But you would say that wouldnt you ....... hardly support from a neutral is it .... . You obviously see something that the residents of this City dont .... Did you not see the piles of rubbish in the streets ....... Did you not know that the Sea Museum has proven to be a failure built with taxpayers money which we are having to pay all over again for. . Perhaps you can explain EXACTLY what it is that makes you think Cllr Smith would EVER be an asset to this City Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 4

9:14pm Sun 6 Jul 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

It's very telling that Smith, in his election launch, chooses to focus solely on his 'local' credentials.

Where is the policy? Where are the ideas? Where is the dynamism and vision? There isn't any. What there is is simply yet more evidence that Royston Smith is a self-obsessed narcissist who thinks this election will be all about personality and who is 'local'. It won't. It will be about who has the better policies and the vision to improve our city and our society.

A clue: it's not you, Royston.
It's very telling that Smith, in his election launch, chooses to focus solely on his 'local' credentials. Where is the policy? Where are the ideas? Where is the dynamism and vision? There isn't any. What there is is simply yet more evidence that Royston Smith is a self-obsessed narcissist who thinks this election will be all about personality and who is 'local'. It won't. It will be about who has the better policies and the vision to improve our city and our society. A clue: it's not you, Royston. WalkingOnAWire
  • Score: 1

11:20pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Balsamic says...

Ed who?
Oh I remember the Labour Party they were pre Blair.
Now just washed out Tory impersonators
Ed who? Oh I remember the Labour Party they were pre Blair. Now just washed out Tory impersonators Balsamic
  • Score: 0

1:24am Mon 7 Jul 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
You are Wrong Southy.

Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.
Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years.
The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth
THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least.

What bit of that do you not understand?

The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections.

You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit).
No they are not the rules are what the council decide on and vote on, there is no stute law on the matter, each council will decide for them selfs how to deal with vacant seats, some councils allow a nominated person to sit in. others put a time limit on vatcant seats other don't even do that.
There is no standard rule in England its down to each council to make the choice
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]You are Wrong Southy. Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.[/p][/quote]Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years. The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth[/p][/quote]THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least. What bit of that do you not understand? The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections. You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit).[/p][/quote]No they are not the rules are what the council decide on and vote on, there is no stute law on the matter, each council will decide for them selfs how to deal with vacant seats, some councils allow a nominated person to sit in. others put a time limit on vatcant seats other don't even do that. There is no standard rule in England its down to each council to make the choice southy
  • Score: -1

1:29am Mon 7 Jul 14

southy says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
It's very telling that Smith, in his election launch, chooses to focus solely on his 'local' credentials.

Where is the policy? Where are the ideas? Where is the dynamism and vision? There isn't any. What there is is simply yet more evidence that Royston Smith is a self-obsessed narcissist who thinks this election will be all about personality and who is 'local'. It won't. It will be about who has the better policies and the vision to improve our city and our society.

A clue: it's not you, Royston.
The policy will be one of Tory National Policy (which is cuts and giving public sector to the private sector).
Tory Term Off Office policy for 5 years after the next Genernal election will soon be annouce, And Labours will be annouce soon afterwards
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: It's very telling that Smith, in his election launch, chooses to focus solely on his 'local' credentials. Where is the policy? Where are the ideas? Where is the dynamism and vision? There isn't any. What there is is simply yet more evidence that Royston Smith is a self-obsessed narcissist who thinks this election will be all about personality and who is 'local'. It won't. It will be about who has the better policies and the vision to improve our city and our society. A clue: it's not you, Royston.[/p][/quote]The policy will be one of Tory National Policy (which is cuts and giving public sector to the private sector). Tory Term Off Office policy for 5 years after the next Genernal election will soon be annouce, And Labours will be annouce soon afterwards southy
  • Score: -1

8:09am Mon 7 Jul 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City.
This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.
.. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so.

Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.
There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)
You are Wrong Southy.

Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.
Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years.
The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth
THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least.

What bit of that do you not understand?

The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections.

You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit).
No they are not the rules are what the council decide on and vote on, there is no stute law on the matter, each council will decide for them selfs how to deal with vacant seats, some councils allow a nominated person to sit in. others put a time limit on vatcant seats other don't even do that.
There is no standard rule in England its down to each council to make the choice
.. there will NOT be 'vacant seats' if RS chooses to remain a councillor - when will you get that fact into your brain. There is no requirement whatsoever to resign (or be de-seated) anywhere in England on becoming an MP. There are NO local rules on this issue; FACT. It is NOT up to each council to make the rules: FACT.
You are deluded, and not for the first time. And you still haven't asked Parmajit. have you?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Can't see him winning a MP seat, high number of Tory voters will be switching over to UKIP on the East side of the City. This shows Royston Smith don't care about the City and its finances, for if he was to win next year he will create a by-election for his council seat that he won this year, an Honerable man would of step down this year from local elections if he had intensions in standing in a General Election next year, Royston is only thinking about his pockets and nothing else.[/p][/quote].. no southy, if he became an MP it would NOT create a local council by-election. Unless, that is, he chose to resign his council seat; but there is no compulsion or legal requirement to do so. Your knowledge of the political system in this country is truly minimal. But, then, why would you need such knowledge when you adhere to a political philosophy that is totally unelectable.[/p][/quote]There is a requirement to do so, you can't do both jobs, London would take up all his time and would not be able attain council meetings in which he must attend so many, every time a councillor as become an MP, the council ward become vacant and can only remain vacant for so long (a year I believe)[/p][/quote]You are Wrong Southy. Mike Hancock, the disgraced Portsmouth MP, was also a Portsmouth City Councillor until he lost out in the last council elections.[/p][/quote]Yes he was Lines and i have not said nay thing different but that was for Portsmouth not Southampton, If Southampton rules allowed it here, then there would of been a Tory councillor who seat would of been vacant for 2 years and a Labour councillor seat vacant for 3 years. The rules between Southampton and Portsmouth are a little bit different. You look up results for Hancock on how many times he turned up for Council Chambers Meetings and check results for turning up at the House of Commons can't be at both places at once, can't do both jobs at the same time one will give and here in southampton pass councils had reconise the proplem and made a ruling over it, Councillors have to turn up to so many council meetings in a quarter here in Southampton that rule is not present in Portsmouth[/p][/quote]THE RULES ARE THE SAME - throughout ALL of England, at least. What bit of that do you not understand? The rules are quite simple; an elected MP does NOT have to resign from being a local councillor. Nor do they stop any MP from standing for local elections. You are wrong (and have obviously not taken my advise and asked Paramjit).[/p][/quote]No they are not the rules are what the council decide on and vote on, there is no stute law on the matter, each council will decide for them selfs how to deal with vacant seats, some councils allow a nominated person to sit in. others put a time limit on vatcant seats other don't even do that. There is no standard rule in England its down to each council to make the choice[/p][/quote].. there will NOT be 'vacant seats' if RS chooses to remain a councillor - when will you get that fact into your brain. There is no requirement whatsoever to resign (or be de-seated) anywhere in England on becoming an MP. There are NO local rules on this issue; FACT. It is NOT up to each council to make the rules: FACT. You are deluded, and not for the first time. And you still haven't asked Parmajit. have you? freefinker
  • Score: 2

3:00pm Mon 7 Jul 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind!

Good luck and all the best!
Thank you, Councillor Galton. Most incisive.
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Royston would be an absolute asset in parliament and be in no doubt, Southampton's interests would always be in the forefront of his mind! Good luck and all the best![/p][/quote]Thank you, Councillor Galton. Most incisive. WalkingOnAWire
  • Score: 1
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