Container port to open seven days a week

Container port to open seven days a week

Container port to open seven days a week

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Southampton container port is to open on Sundays for the first time ever.

DP World Southampton will now operate seven days a week in anticipation of a surge of demand over the Bank Holiday and in the run up to Christmas.

The move is initially for businesses to play catch up during the four-day week but is also aimed at helping supply chain operators already gearing up for the festive period.

Traditionally August is one of the quietest for business, but the container terminal operator is encouraging customers to pick up cargo seven days a week as hauliers try to cram five days of deliveries into a four-day working week.

But the Bank Holiday also signals the run up to Christmas with a surge of containers arriving as retailers begin stocking up their shelves ahead of The festive season.

It will give customers a head start by opening from 7am on Sundays.

DP World Southampton operations head Steve McCrindle said: "By opening up for the full seven days for our customers, we believe we are providing more flexibility and opportunity to collect cargo which will assist the supply chain with their import deliveries.

"Traditionally there has not been the demand for weekend opening, but with the August Bank Holiday and the peak session. Upon us we will see an increase in volume and by extending our opening hours we can reduce the pressure on everyone in the supply chain."

He added: "often the container terminal feels the pressure of the bank holiday for a few weeks afterwards but it doesn't have to be this way.

"We are a 24 hour operation. We service ships 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so there is no reason why we can't service our land side customers too."

From Saturday it will open from 7am on Sundays and an extended three hours on Saturday's from midnight until 6pm.

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11:38am Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

More slave paid hours,
More slave paid hours, southy
  • Score: -25

11:50am Mon 18 Aug 14

aldermoorboy says...

More work, great.
More work, great. aldermoorboy
  • Score: 14

12:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

owen_thesaints says...

By Maxwell Kusi-Obodum, Senior reporter
"...already gearing up fiords the festive period."
"...as retailers begin sticking up their shelves..."

Top work!
By Maxwell Kusi-Obodum, Senior reporter "...already gearing up fiords the festive period." "...as retailers begin sticking up their shelves..." Top work! owen_thesaints
  • Score: 12

12:05pm Mon 18 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships.
More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships. good-gosh
  • Score: 11

12:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

forest hump says...

good-gosh wrote:
More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships.
Go back to cave, troglodyte. Why do you hate success so much? Must be related to Southy? He is the only one who would normally spout drivel like this.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships.[/p][/quote]Go back to cave, troglodyte. Why do you hate success so much? Must be related to Southy? He is the only one who would normally spout drivel like this. forest hump
  • Score: -1

12:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

forest hump says...

southy wrote:
More slave paid hours,
You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: More slave paid hours,[/p][/quote]You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple. forest hump
  • Score: 6

12:20pm Mon 18 Aug 14

halibutjackson says...

i spotted three errors, 'gearing up fiords the festive period', 'begin sticking up their shelves ahead ', 'August Bank Holiday and the peak session'. Maybe the proof reader should work 7 days a week.
i spotted three errors, 'gearing up fiords the festive period', 'begin sticking up their shelves ahead ', 'August Bank Holiday and the peak session'. Maybe the proof reader should work 7 days a week. halibutjackson
  • Score: 12

12:36pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

good-gosh wrote:
More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships.
If that was only true its not, larger compasity ships, fewer ships less jobs, just more profits for share holders and companys to be stash away in off shore tax free banking.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: More profit, more investment, more ships - then even more profit, more investment, more ships.[/p][/quote]If that was only true its not, larger compasity ships, fewer ships less jobs, just more profits for share holders and companys to be stash away in off shore tax free banking. southy
  • Score: -7

12:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
More slave paid hours,
You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.
Well maybe good-gosh as better understanding what is going on. You think for one moment these drivers will want to work more hours company's are not willing to employ enough drivers as it is unless they are force to, they will force drivers to work pass the limit a high number of operators have lobbied the government to change the driving laws on lorry drivers so they are moving a lot more than its safe to. Its all ready known that drivers are being threaten by the bosses to do it or lose your job as there plenty out there to fill there spot that will do it.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: More slave paid hours,[/p][/quote]You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.[/p][/quote]Well maybe good-gosh as better understanding what is going on. You think for one moment these drivers will want to work more hours company's are not willing to employ enough drivers as it is unless they are force to, they will force drivers to work pass the limit a high number of operators have lobbied the government to change the driving laws on lorry drivers so they are moving a lot more than its safe to. Its all ready known that drivers are being threaten by the bosses to do it or lose your job as there plenty out there to fill there spot that will do it. southy
  • Score: -3

12:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
More slave paid hours,
You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.
Hello hump, how are you today?
Now, I love success – so bigger the better.
But Southy's concerned about low pay and that can't be bad either, can it?
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: More slave paid hours,[/p][/quote]You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.[/p][/quote]Hello hump, how are you today? Now, I love success – so bigger the better. But Southy's concerned about low pay and that can't be bad either, can it? good-gosh
  • Score: 1

1:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay. southy
  • Score: -5

1:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

good-gosh wrote:
forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
More slave paid hours,
You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.
Hello hump, how are you today?
Now, I love success – so bigger the better.
But Southy's concerned about low pay and that can't be bad either, can it?
Forest don't take this into account also, these people being force to work longer hours will have even less time to spend there money in the economy, as it is things are beinning to look like theres going to be a housing price crash.
3000 homes in the last quarter have had court orders to be put on the market, there a slump coming
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: More slave paid hours,[/p][/quote]You need to move in with good-gosh! you would make a lovely couple.[/p][/quote]Hello hump, how are you today? Now, I love success – so bigger the better. But Southy's concerned about low pay and that can't be bad either, can it?[/p][/quote]Forest don't take this into account also, these people being force to work longer hours will have even less time to spend there money in the economy, as it is things are beinning to look like theres going to be a housing price crash. 3000 homes in the last quarter have had court orders to be put on the market, there a slump coming southy
  • Score: -5

1:10pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday? IronLady2010
  • Score: 6

1:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours southy
  • Score: -6

1:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy?

A zero contract surely is hourly pay?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy? A zero contract surely is hourly pay? IronLady2010
  • Score: 8

1:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

S!monOn says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that! S!monOn
  • Score: 5

1:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy?

A zero contract surely is hourly pay?
flat rate and at a min.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy? A zero contract surely is hourly pay?[/p][/quote]flat rate and at a min. southy
  • Score: -5

1:47pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
What Unions are left they have been saying about it, 35 years ago they would not of got away with it because the unions would of had some thing to say about it and would of done some thing about it, but where its all mainly job agencys supplying the work force they are to scared to say any thing about it because it would mean they would be replace.
Bosses black mail its workers now days they don't listen they just do what they want and if an employee don't like it they will get threaten by the bosses of being replace with some else who will do it.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]What Unions are left they have been saying about it, 35 years ago they would not of got away with it because the unions would of had some thing to say about it and would of done some thing about it, but where its all mainly job agencys supplying the work force they are to scared to say any thing about it because it would mean they would be replace. Bosses black mail its workers now days they don't listen they just do what they want and if an employee don't like it they will get threaten by the bosses of being replace with some else who will do it. southy
  • Score: -5

1:52pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy?

A zero contract surely is hourly pay?
flat rate and at a min.
Can you expand on that?

If someone is on a zero hour contract, that means they are not guaranteed any work, so how can it be salaried?

Zero hours means they may work 5 hours one week and 40 hours the next?

Please explain how they will work longer hours with no extra pay.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]How do you have a zero contract on a flat wage, Southy? A zero contract surely is hourly pay?[/p][/quote]flat rate and at a min.[/p][/quote]Can you expand on that? If someone is on a zero hour contract, that means they are not guaranteed any work, so how can it be salaried? Zero hours means they may work 5 hours one week and 40 hours the next? Please explain how they will work longer hours with no extra pay. IronLady2010
  • Score: 7

1:57pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

2:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays southy
  • Score: -5

2:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work? IronLady2010
  • Score: 7

2:05pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.[/p][/quote]UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts southy
  • Score: -1

2:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts
Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.[/p][/quote]UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts[/p][/quote]Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies. Torchie1
  • Score: 4

2:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra southy
  • Score: -4

2:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts
Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.
It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.[/p][/quote]UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts[/p][/quote]Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.[/p][/quote]It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract. southy
  • Score: -4

2:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts
Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.
It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract.
It is things like this is why workers should join a union to stop silly contracts from happening.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.[/p][/quote]UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts[/p][/quote]Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.[/p][/quote]It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract.[/p][/quote]It is things like this is why workers should join a union to stop silly contracts from happening. southy
  • Score: -4

2:23pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me! IronLady2010
  • Score: 11

2:37pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cyber__Fug says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
Frustration can be overcome Ironlady ...... but trying to "debate" with a thick, unemployed, blinkered left wing buffoon can not be overcome.

It's probably just best to leave him to wallow in his own hatred of life.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Frustration can be overcome Ironlady ...... but trying to "debate" with a thick, unemployed, blinkered left wing buffoon can not be overcome. It's probably just best to leave him to wallow in his own hatred of life. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 9

2:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

massimoosti says...

Container Terminal always operates 24hrs / 7 x days............only difference now will be a few more men allocated on Sundays for Land Vans.

Labour allocation varies daily dependant on vessel alongside so no different to normal for allocators or staff.
Container Terminal always operates 24hrs / 7 x days............only difference now will be a few more men allocated on Sundays for Land Vans. Labour allocation varies daily dependant on vessel alongside so no different to normal for allocators or staff. massimoosti
  • Score: 10

2:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

massimoosti says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
Clueless answer with no knowledge of the Port
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]Clueless answer with no knowledge of the Port massimoosti
  • Score: 7

2:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me![/p][/quote]I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 4

2:54pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers
That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me![/p][/quote]I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers[/p][/quote]That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them. IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

3:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Linesman says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers
That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them.
I disagree. I think they are forced into them, as there is no alternative. If they refuse, they get no benefits, and there is preciouls little else availabe.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me![/p][/quote]I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers[/p][/quote]That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them.[/p][/quote]I disagree. I think they are forced into them, as there is no alternative. If they refuse, they get no benefits, and there is preciouls little else availabe. Linesman
  • Score: -3

3:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Linesman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010

Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays
Great!!!

So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?
They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL.
These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to.
Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra
Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours

Sometimes you really frustrate me!
I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers
That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them.
I disagree. I think they are forced into them, as there is no alternative. If they refuse, they get no benefits, and there is preciouls little else availabe.
I see where you are coming from. As in jobs are hard to find, so maybe people just take what they can.

But, at the same time no-one forces anyone to stay with any employer, they are free to give notice and move on.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Zero houres contract means just what it says, you have no hour rate conditions, Zero hours means that you will work a flat rate, for as many hours the bosses chose you to work, there is no over time rate just 1 flat rate reguardless of how many hours work, you could work 1 hour to 168 hours a week all at the same rate, no holiday pay, no time off like if you work 7 days a week you will not get a day of in lue for working the sunday or bank hoildays[/p][/quote]Great!!! So now you accept that they won't be working longer hours for no extra pay, they'll infact be paid for the hours they work?[/p][/quote]They will not be paid extra for working longer hours, its one rate nomally at the NWL if its imported workforce from overseas then for the first 6 mths its below the NWL. These laws are attacking the National agreement that bosses do not want to keep to. Remember the swap over from the hourly rate contract to the salary contract (was not worth the paper it was printed on) where they put words in like average but the wage was base on a year, they could get you to work longer hours with out pay, this is what the zero contract is trying to achive, work longer with no extra[/p][/quote]Stop blagging. Zero hour contracts are paid by the hour. The more hours they work the more hours they get paid for. There is no set salary for someone who is contracted to work 0 hours Sometimes you really frustrate me![/p][/quote]I THINK that he means .... if you are on a zero hours contract you hourly rate will be the same if you work 10 hours or 100 hours. So no overtime or weekend rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay ...... thats why most beneftit claimants are in work ....... WE are subsidising poor employers[/p][/quote]That is fine, but people choose to take a job, no-one forces them.[/p][/quote]I disagree. I think they are forced into them, as there is no alternative. If they refuse, they get no benefits, and there is preciouls little else availabe.[/p][/quote]I see where you are coming from. As in jobs are hard to find, so maybe people just take what they can. But, at the same time no-one forces anyone to stay with any employer, they are free to give notice and move on. IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

5:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More work, great.
More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.
You may well be correct as I don't know.

But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens.

I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?
If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours
If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that!
The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.
UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts
Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.
It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract.
It is things like this is why workers should join a union to stop silly contracts from happening.
Get a job and then your opinion might be at least note worthy.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More work, great.[/p][/quote]More yes, more jobs no just that the workers will work longer hours for the same amount of pay.[/p][/quote]You may well be correct as I don't know. But I would assume for those who work a Sunday would get a day off in the week, that's what usually happens. I very much doubt they will work longer hours for no extra pay, they'll just get a day off elsewhere and work the Sunday?[/p][/quote]If that was really true but its not, what usually happens 35 years ago do not apply now, zero contract hours putting every one on the shop floor on a flat wage for unlimited hours, they don't employ more people they just force employees to work longer hours[/p][/quote]If that was true - I'm sure the Unions would have something to say about that![/p][/quote]The law would as well when someone waved a copy of the 'Working Time Directive'.[/p][/quote]UK government over ruled the the 1998 EU Working Time Directive that limits to a 48 hour week,, by bring in the Zero hour contracts[/p][/quote]Perhaps you ought to contact the administrators of Gov.UK website for offering false hope to employees by suggesting that the WTD law still applies.[/p][/quote]It still applies to those who have not switch over to the zero hour contract.[/p][/quote]It is things like this is why workers should join a union to stop silly contracts from happening.[/p][/quote]Get a job and then your opinion might be at least note worthy. Shoong
  • Score: 1

7:10pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jazzi says...

Thanks, glad you are making a profit from others misery, perhaps you could supply residents with earplugs. No that would cut into your profit and you are probably chuckling and rubbing your hands together at the stupidity of the sheeple
Thanks, glad you are making a profit from others misery, perhaps you could supply residents with earplugs. No that would cut into your profit and you are probably chuckling and rubbing your hands together at the stupidity of the sheeple jazzi
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Zexagon says...

I don't hear too many dockies moaning about the money they're earning. All the ones I know seem keen to do the overtime
I don't hear too many dockies moaning about the money they're earning. All the ones I know seem keen to do the overtime Zexagon
  • Score: 3

8:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

forest hump says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause. forest hump
  • Score: -2

10:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.[/p][/quote]I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

forest hump says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?
Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.[/p][/quote]I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?[/p][/quote]Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again forest hump
  • Score: -1

10:10am Tue 19 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?
Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again
Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.[/p][/quote]I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?[/p][/quote]Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again[/p][/quote]Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain. good-gosh
  • Score: 1

10:11am Tue 19 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

good-gosh wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?
Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again
Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain.
HaHaHa
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.[/p][/quote]I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?[/p][/quote]Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again[/p][/quote]Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain.[/p][/quote]HaHaHa good-gosh
  • Score: 1

10:14am Tue 19 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

good-gosh wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
forest hump wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.
Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.
I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?
Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again
Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain.
HaHaHa
HaHaHa - ops, I cant stop laughing - HaHaHa, HaHaHa
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Dibden Bay is what we need to relieve the congestion.[/p][/quote]Best post in this thread but alas, the left wing protagonists Southy and good gosh will disagree as their happiness would only rely on all large companies being nationalised and regressing into a loss making shambles. ABP WILL build Dibden Bay as they are the landowners who have invested in reclamation and solid plans for development. The lefty Luddites will huddle around their braziers pleading a lost cause.[/p][/quote]I was rather thinking it was the snobby yachties, and the new New Foresters that were making the most noise against it, plus a few tree huggers?[/p][/quote]Yeah, you are probably right. Just that pair were playing nobs again[/p][/quote]Bad night again? Try thinking upside down and backwards to unclog the brain.[/p][/quote]HaHaHa[/p][/quote]HaHaHa - ops, I cant stop laughing - HaHaHa, HaHaHa good-gosh
  • Score: 1

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