Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino in dark over summer transfer budget

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Mauricio Pochettino says he doesn’t yet know what sort of transfer budget he will be handed this summer.

There is a fear that Saints may have hit something of a glass ceiling.

An excellent season looks likely to bring them an eighth placed Premier League finish, equalling their best ever since the 1992 rebranding, but without large scale investment it may be hard to make the next step up.

It is something Pochettino is aware of and clearly needs to know the budgets on offer before making predictions as to whether the club can realistically progress much further.

He said: “You need to look at other teams and see other teams who are above us to look at average salaries and budgets.

“At this moment our only focus is to finish this season on a high to do as best as we can. Then we will be able to look at the pre-season and look ahead towards the new season whether we want to finish 8th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th.

“Then we will be able to decide what goals we impose on ourselves at Southampton, how that set-up is achieved and how we go about achieving those goals.”

Pochettino is waiting to hear what sort of funds he can use to strengthen his squad.

“We are working as we always do in the organisation of next season,” he reported. “We are working on pre-season, evaluating how the future of the squad is going to be, what players will be in the squad next season.

“We still have three-four weeks left to solely focus on the league and then after that we will be able to focus a lot more on what the future of the club is going to be.

“It is true at this moment in time I don’t have the information of what kind of funds will be made available for me for this summer. “I do not have that information yet.”

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8:52am Fri 18 Apr 14

Blackknight says...

Let's just hope whatever the budget is, it is spent wisely.

A Keeper, Centre Back, Left Back (if Shaw goes), Striker and a pacey Winger should all be on the shopping list.
Let's just hope whatever the budget is, it is spent wisely. A Keeper, Centre Back, Left Back (if Shaw goes), Striker and a pacey Winger should all be on the shopping list. Blackknight
  • Score: 7

8:58am Fri 18 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

There's a great interview with Calum Chambers on he Newsnow website. Looks like he is pretty happy and saying the Saints is the perfect place to be. Eat your heart out Wenger!
There's a great interview with Calum Chambers on he Newsnow website. Looks like he is pretty happy and saying the Saints is the perfect place to be. Eat your heart out Wenger! Clever Dick
  • Score: 21

9:01am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

Blackknight wrote:
Let's just hope whatever the budget is, it is spent wisely.

A Keeper, Centre Back, Left Back (if Shaw goes), Striker and a pacey Winger should all be on the shopping list.
I think 'pacey' should an attribute that all new signings have, whatever their position.
[quote][p][bold]Blackknight[/bold] wrote: Let's just hope whatever the budget is, it is spent wisely. A Keeper, Centre Back, Left Back (if Shaw goes), Striker and a pacey Winger should all be on the shopping list.[/p][/quote]I think 'pacey' should an attribute that all new signings have, whatever their position. Rising_Son
  • Score: 12

9:02am Fri 18 Apr 14

willygetaway says...

This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect .
COYR
This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect . COYR willygetaway
  • Score: -2

9:09am Fri 18 Apr 14

Saint Jinx says...

I believe that the decision made regarding Luke Shaw will be one of the most important in the history of the club. Sure, we sold Walcott, Ox and Bale, but we really had no choice. Now is the time to make a statement. Are we serious about our ambition to get into the Champions League, with Saints becoming a household name across Europe, or do we throw in the towel and accept mediocrity? I want to see Southampton up there with the greats before I die, so that I can watch the big matches from heaven.
I believe that the decision made regarding Luke Shaw will be one of the most important in the history of the club. Sure, we sold Walcott, Ox and Bale, but we really had no choice. Now is the time to make a statement. Are we serious about our ambition to get into the Champions League, with Saints becoming a household name across Europe, or do we throw in the towel and accept mediocrity? I want to see Southampton up there with the greats before I die, so that I can watch the big matches from heaven. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 26

9:26am Fri 18 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

willygetaway wrote:
This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect .
COYR
There is probably a huge amount going on behind the scenes. These guys are all new to it and like any job it takes a bit of settling in to. They probably feel that getting to know everything about the club is a little more important than reporting back to the supporters every five minutes.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect . COYR[/p][/quote]There is probably a huge amount going on behind the scenes. These guys are all new to it and like any job it takes a bit of settling in to. They probably feel that getting to know everything about the club is a little more important than reporting back to the supporters every five minutes. Clever Dick
  • Score: 21

9:33am Fri 18 Apr 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

willygetaway wrote:
This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect .
COYR
My guess is, they are waiting for the end of the season so that A; they know how much prize money we'll get and B; they can reveal the new sponsor, which could potentially be MASSIVE money!

Stay calm!

It's The Southampton Way!
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect . COYR[/p][/quote]My guess is, they are waiting for the end of the season so that A; they know how much prize money we'll get and B; they can reveal the new sponsor, which could potentially be MASSIVE money! Stay calm! It's The Southampton Way! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 29

9:43am Fri 18 Apr 14

miltonarcher says...

Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.
Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us. miltonarcher
  • Score: 12

9:50am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.
Why not make it easy for Poch and the rest of us? What is Everton's budget?
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.[/p][/quote]Why not make it easy for Poch and the rest of us? What is Everton's budget? Rising_Son
  • Score: 7

10:01am Fri 18 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -4

10:03am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Rising_Son wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.
Why not make it easy for Poch and the rest of us? What is Everton's budget?
I don't think we need to 'emulate any ones budget. Poch should know like most of the fans where we need to improve. We need to wheel n deal, maybe get some loan deals etc. I don't think we've been exactly successful in our dealings, little bit hit n miss. A lot may depend on the sale of osvaldo and others, can't believe we still have Barnard on the books!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.[/p][/quote]Why not make it easy for Poch and the rest of us? What is Everton's budget?[/p][/quote]I don't think we need to 'emulate any ones budget. Poch should know like most of the fans where we need to improve. We need to wheel n deal, maybe get some loan deals etc. I don't think we've been exactly successful in our dealings, little bit hit n miss. A lot may depend on the sale of osvaldo and others, can't believe we still have Barnard on the books! Rooflas
  • Score: 6

10:13am Fri 18 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Should of kept Puncheon, big mistake. Mayuka is still on the books as well
Should of kept Puncheon, big mistake. Mayuka is still on the books as well bigfella777
  • Score: -5

10:16am Fri 18 Apr 14

willygetaway says...

Clever Dick wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect .
COYR
There is probably a huge amount going on behind the scenes. These guys are all new to it and like any job it takes a bit of settling in to. They probably feel that getting to know everything about the club is a little more important than reporting back to the supporters every five minutes.
if you read this properly you would see i said TELL HIM, not us and get him signed. Actions speaks louder than words.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: This is what worries me about the latest board. there seems to be a lot of cooing, but nothing seems to be forthcoming. i,d be happier to see some action. Sign the manager, TELL HIM. how much he has got to spend ect . COYR[/p][/quote]There is probably a huge amount going on behind the scenes. These guys are all new to it and like any job it takes a bit of settling in to. They probably feel that getting to know everything about the club is a little more important than reporting back to the supporters every five minutes.[/p][/quote]if you read this properly you would see i said TELL HIM, not us and get him signed. Actions speaks louder than words. COYR willygetaway
  • Score: -2

10:19am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
I think you're being a bit harsh.

Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it?
It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!!
I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]I think you're being a bit harsh. Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it? It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!! I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained? Rooflas
  • Score: 2

10:20am Fri 18 Apr 14

willygetaway says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
i agree, have we learned nothing from the days of the dark lord ?
WTFILN COYR
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]i agree, have we learned nothing from the days of the dark lord ? WTFILN COYR willygetaway
  • Score: 0

10:21am Fri 18 Apr 14

invictus says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Spot on! In auctioneering terms it's like a 'come hither' tactic. Interestingly, right after Krueger's Guardian interview there was a piece about Luke Shaw's market value and how his future will soon be settled. I thought by now we would have heard that MoPo has been signed up on a long term contract with a club vision to consolidate as a top 6 team.

What's Krueger doing on the commercial side? Saints should be licensing their brand in Japan as that is one very large market where they already have high brand awareness. Not only would such a move generate revenue, it would also be soft advertising and could lead to sponsorship interest from Japanese MNCs.

Never mind getting up early to go water skiing in Ringwood, Krueger, put your energy into delivering a statement of intent so we can all clearly see what the club plan to do.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Spot on! In auctioneering terms it's like a 'come hither' tactic. Interestingly, right after Krueger's Guardian interview there was a piece about Luke Shaw's market value and how his future will soon be settled. I thought by now we would have heard that MoPo has been signed up on a long term contract with a club vision to consolidate as a top 6 team. What's Krueger doing on the commercial side? Saints should be licensing their brand in Japan as that is one very large market where they already have high brand awareness. Not only would such a move generate revenue, it would also be soft advertising and could lead to sponsorship interest from Japanese MNCs. Never mind getting up early to go water skiing in Ringwood, Krueger, put your energy into delivering a statement of intent so we can all clearly see what the club plan to do. invictus
  • Score: 7

10:27am Fri 18 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Good point about the contract, although I do have reservations as I have said before, I would go for 3 years. But give Ralph a chance he hasn't been here 5 minutes. I hope we get this sorted out in the next three weeks or so. But I am not expecting miracles.

Personally I would like to see us bring in a keeper, two centre backs, two strikers and a winger. I am not holding my breath for the winger. Next season I would like to see a 100% improvement on the home win rate (to date) so up to 12 and roughly the same performance away from home.

If MOPO can do that I would be very happy with him. But I am not sure we will get the funding to do that. Your psychology almost worked.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Good point about the contract, although I do have reservations as I have said before, I would go for 3 years. But give Ralph a chance he hasn't been here 5 minutes. I hope we get this sorted out in the next three weeks or so. But I am not expecting miracles. Personally I would like to see us bring in a keeper, two centre backs, two strikers and a winger. I am not holding my breath for the winger. Next season I would like to see a 100% improvement on the home win rate (to date) so up to 12 and roughly the same performance away from home. If MOPO can do that I would be very happy with him. But I am not sure we will get the funding to do that. Your psychology almost worked. george chivers
  • Score: 0

10:27am Fri 18 Apr 14

costa gaz says...

There will be a war chest, but just avoid the massive fail that was Dani Osvaldo.
The Mirror has stated that Juve are only willing to pay £7m for Osvaldo, not good but I'm afraid that is around his market value.
Most of the promotion wining squad who had huge pay rises inserted into their contracts will now move on freeing wages for a new signing or two.
But we have to be realistic and live within our means, Cortese's dream would have placed us into serious financial difficulties.
There will be a war chest, but just avoid the massive fail that was Dani Osvaldo. The Mirror has stated that Juve are only willing to pay £7m for Osvaldo, not good but I'm afraid that is around his market value. Most of the promotion wining squad who had huge pay rises inserted into their contracts will now move on freeing wages for a new signing or two. But we have to be realistic and live within our means, Cortese's dream would have placed us into serious financial difficulties. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

10:39am Fri 18 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

I'm not convinced Poch will even be here next season,I can see a big club in England or Europe taking him, his performance at Saints has put him on the map and he knows it.
I'm not convinced Poch will even be here next season,I can see a big club in England or Europe taking him, his performance at Saints has put him on the map and he knows it. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -12

10:51am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Jeezus!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Jeezus! Rising_Son
  • Score: -8

10:56am Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
I'm not convinced Poch will even be here next season,I can see a big club in England or Europe taking him, his performance at Saints has put him on the map and he knows it.
Well the signing of osvaldo had!
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: I'm not convinced Poch will even be here next season,I can see a big club in England or Europe taking him, his performance at Saints has put him on the map and he knows it.[/p][/quote]Well the signing of osvaldo had! Rooflas
  • Score: -1

11:34am Fri 18 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Intent is everything...were is it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Intent is everything...were is it. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

11:46am Fri 18 Apr 14

itsnotjustice says...

We have only just got the board in place... they are still getting to know the owner, the manager, the players and the fans...

just because they are not storming ahead and making things public it doesnt mean things are not happening...

As for luke shaw, im quite confident we will keep him. He wants to stay, we dont need the money...

Also, as we proved with osvaldo, going out and spending big money on players, on big wages, is not what we should do.
We have only just got the board in place... they are still getting to know the owner, the manager, the players and the fans... just because they are not storming ahead and making things public it doesnt mean things are not happening... As for luke shaw, im quite confident we will keep him. He wants to stay, we dont need the money... Also, as we proved with osvaldo, going out and spending big money on players, on big wages, is not what we should do. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 3

11:46am Fri 18 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

When I look back on all these worries, I remember the story of the old man who said on his deathbed that he had had a lot of trouble in his life, most of which had never happened.
― Winston Churchill.

The Saints bus is still on its journey albeit with a new executive, stay on and enjoy the ride, I believe we are in safe hands. Would you rather be in the doldrums at Aston Villa under their regime? Be careful what you wish for.
When I look back on all these worries, I remember the story of the old man who said on his deathbed that he had had a lot of trouble in his life, most of which had never happened. ― Winston Churchill. The Saints bus is still on its journey albeit with a new executive, stay on and enjoy the ride, I believe we are in safe hands. Would you rather be in the doldrums at Aston Villa under their regime? Be careful what you wish for. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

12:05pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Stop trying to stir it up Echo.

Worry about whether Poch is staying or not.
Worry about the retention of key players.
Worry about the direction the club intends to take.
Worry about the unpaid transfer bills.
Worry about the final bill for Staplewood.

Worry worry worry worry

None of those items above are anything to worry about - answers have been provided for all of them.

Now worry about next season's transfer budget.

For crying out loud! Just shut up will you?
The club is well run and in good hands. We have a loyal manager and a bunch of talented kids who all want to be here.
There's an £80m cheque in the post from the Premier League prize fund.
Kreuger is a winner and he will turn this club into winners.

For God's sake.
Stop trying to stir it up Echo. Worry about whether Poch is staying or not. Worry about the retention of key players. Worry about the direction the club intends to take. Worry about the unpaid transfer bills. Worry about the final bill for Staplewood. Worry worry worry worry None of those items above are anything to worry about - answers have been provided for all of them. Now worry about next season's transfer budget. For crying out loud! Just shut up will you? The club is well run and in good hands. We have a loyal manager and a bunch of talented kids who all want to be here. There's an £80m cheque in the post from the Premier League prize fund. Kreuger is a winner and he will turn this club into winners. For God's sake. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Fri 18 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rooflas wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
I think you're being a bit harsh.

Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it?
It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!!
I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained?
calling NC `titch` or `the small one` rather gives away your feelings towards him. I really think you are underestimating what NC has done for our club, ask fans of leeds, forest, qpr, sheff weds, Leicester, I could go on, and see if they think their club is really a prem club in every sense. so many clubs that are around our size have fallen out of the prem and despite new owners and promises of cash etc. have become financial disasters and are left in the champ and L1. we could have also ended up like leeds etc. yes some do get into the prem but then struggle without the real investment needed. NC took a failing L1 club and turned it into a mid-table prem team in just 4yrs. it meant he hard to make some really tough decisions, for which he took a lot of abuse, but he wasn't afraid to make them.
the debt you blame him for is nothing compared to most prem and some champs teams, qpr`s debt is huge! it is also very serviceable, prize money from the prem, tv money form sky and overseas and a change in the shirt sponsor will cover that debt and more.
I think we are a long way from thinking of prem survival next season and should be pushing for a top 6 place.
the academy will provide players for the team, it has done so for years, and there will be some players who wont make it to the first team. the players who are not going to be first team players will be the ones sold, with some of the older players who have come through who we will be able to replace with better/ younger players who are coming through. if we find another left back who is better than luke in 3/4 years then luke could be sold for a lot of money. that's how the academy will fund the club.
I want to trust the current board and from every statement they have put out I have no reason not to trust them. we were told by all of the media that KL had no interest in the club or in football, well I think she has been to every home game since NC left, and some away, I think she has a big emotional involvement with us and wants to respect her fathers wishes regarding the club. I also had full respect and trust for NC and think he is the main reason we got back to the prem as quickly as we have and without busting the bank.
to be able to make the step up we need to expand sms to around 40-45k, it wont be full for every game but the higher we can get up the prem the more fans will turn up. did chelski sell out the bridge before they started to get more successful? do villa sell out now they are on the slide.
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]I think you're being a bit harsh. Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it? It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!! I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained?[/p][/quote]calling NC `titch` or `the small one` rather gives away your feelings towards him. I really think you are underestimating what NC has done for our club, ask fans of leeds, forest, qpr, sheff weds, Leicester, I could go on, and see if they think their club is really a prem club in every sense. so many clubs that are around our size have fallen out of the prem and despite new owners and promises of cash etc. have become financial disasters and are left in the champ and L1. we could have also ended up like leeds etc. yes some do get into the prem but then struggle without the real investment needed. NC took a failing L1 club and turned it into a mid-table prem team in just 4yrs. it meant he hard to make some really tough decisions, for which he took a lot of abuse, but he wasn't afraid to make them. the debt you blame him for is nothing compared to most prem and some champs teams, qpr`s debt is huge! it is also very serviceable, prize money from the prem, tv money form sky and overseas and a change in the shirt sponsor will cover that debt and more. I think we are a long way from thinking of prem survival next season and should be pushing for a top 6 place. the academy will provide players for the team, it has done so for years, and there will be some players who wont make it to the first team. the players who are not going to be first team players will be the ones sold, with some of the older players who have come through who we will be able to replace with better/ younger players who are coming through. if we find another left back who is better than luke in 3/4 years then luke could be sold for a lot of money. that's how the academy will fund the club. I want to trust the current board and from every statement they have put out I have no reason not to trust them. we were told by all of the media that KL had no interest in the club or in football, well I think she has been to every home game since NC left, and some away, I think she has a big emotional involvement with us and wants to respect her fathers wishes regarding the club. I also had full respect and trust for NC and think he is the main reason we got back to the prem as quickly as we have and without busting the bank. to be able to make the step up we need to expand sms to around 40-45k, it wont be full for every game but the higher we can get up the prem the more fans will turn up. did chelski sell out the bridge before they started to get more successful? do villa sell out now they are on the slide. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 15

12:17pm Fri 18 Apr 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Well Poch is talking bout next season which is big a clue that hes staying at least to see his contract out as hes allways said...Could be a danger that Barca need a new boss but Poch also stated he wants to stay in the prem league....maybe only man utd would tempt him but why would he risk all hes acheiving here with a bunch of players he knows are gonna get better..His stock will rise and even if he failed after all people will say it only saints and thats as far as they go.....he cant lose really.
Id be amazed if Lallana left hes a saints fan thro and thro ..hes gonna be playing regulary for england..players left before sometimes because they wouldnt get england call ups..ofc the champs league would tempt any player but i reckon Lallana believes we can make it in next few years and he is only 25...
I dont think Shaw wants out ..yet hes smart and grounded enough to see the dangers of leaving too soon..ask Jack Rodwell if going to man city helped him he was the next big thing till went there to bench warm.And IF we did qualify for champs league next year hed have no reason to go yet...
AS for the others cant see them any of em wanting out..Jayrod may have been a big target and silly money may have bought him ..but thats noty gonna happen now.
Osvaldo must be sold not only coz hes a violent knob he didnt impress much on the pitch..whatever we can get im afraid even 7 million would add to the warchest..We need two strikers brought in actually unless Chambers turns it on in our last games Hope Poch picks him from the start we havent much to lose and this is the perfect time to try him out.
A gk cb a striker and a winger is the minimum we need to push on.
4 games to go....what a great season lets hope we can round it off by beating man utd with rickie and adam tearing them up!
Well Poch is talking bout next season which is big a clue that hes staying at least to see his contract out as hes allways said...Could be a danger that Barca need a new boss but Poch also stated he wants to stay in the prem league....maybe only man utd would tempt him but why would he risk all hes acheiving here with a bunch of players he knows are gonna get better..His stock will rise and even if he failed after all people will say it only saints and thats as far as they go.....he cant lose really. Id be amazed if Lallana left hes a saints fan thro and thro ..hes gonna be playing regulary for england..players left before sometimes because they wouldnt get england call ups..ofc the champs league would tempt any player but i reckon Lallana believes we can make it in next few years and he is only 25... I dont think Shaw wants out ..yet hes smart and grounded enough to see the dangers of leaving too soon..ask Jack Rodwell if going to man city helped him he was the next big thing till went there to bench warm.And IF we did qualify for champs league next year hed have no reason to go yet... AS for the others cant see them any of em wanting out..Jayrod may have been a big target and silly money may have bought him ..but thats noty gonna happen now. Osvaldo must be sold not only coz hes a violent knob he didnt impress much on the pitch..whatever we can get im afraid even 7 million would add to the warchest..We need two strikers brought in actually unless Chambers turns it on in our last games Hope Poch picks him from the start we havent much to lose and this is the perfect time to try him out. A gk cb a striker and a winger is the minimum we need to push on. 4 games to go....what a great season lets hope we can round it off by beating man utd with rickie and adam tearing them up! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 5

1:14pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Chicago Saint says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
I believe that the decision made regarding Luke Shaw will be one of the most important in the history of the club. Sure, we sold Walcott, Ox and Bale, but we really had no choice. Now is the time to make a statement. Are we serious about our ambition to get into the Champions League, with Saints becoming a household name across Europe, or do we throw in the towel and accept mediocrity? I want to see Southampton up there with the greats before I die, so that I can watch the big matches from heaven.
We must look at the big picture here.
1) The fact that Saints are 7 or 22 million in the red is not as bad as it sounds. In toda'y's pro game most professional clubs operate in the red on PAPER including some of the of big clubs in the PL. That does not stop them from spending big on signings as many times the entire fees for signings are not all paid in full up front.
2) Let's not forget that there is a substantial amount of prize money coming our way based on where we finish in the standings (I think mid table is in the range of about 60 million from articles I have seen). That has not been mentioned when the debt articles were written.
3) I think it is safe to say that Saints will be dealing Osvaldo in the summer and possibly even Gaston. Those two alone will bring in an additional 20 million minimum.
4) Best case scenario is that we keep ALL our stars, Shaw included, and have MP signed to a long term contract. But to be totally honest, if everyone else is kept and ONLY Shaw, Gaston and Dani were sold (netting around 50+M for the three), that would not be detrimental to the club, assuming that they re-invest that money, along with the additional prize money coming our way from the PL standings. This would amount to a sum of over 120M in summer income, well enough to wipe out the paper debt and with enough to spare for some very good signings. I may be wrong on the exact PL prize amount, but I don't think I'm too far off.
5) With regards to Shaw, as much as I would love for him to stay, sometimes it is wise to take a step back in order to move two steps forward. With that sort of budget from the three sales there are many big names we can sign.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: I believe that the decision made regarding Luke Shaw will be one of the most important in the history of the club. Sure, we sold Walcott, Ox and Bale, but we really had no choice. Now is the time to make a statement. Are we serious about our ambition to get into the Champions League, with Saints becoming a household name across Europe, or do we throw in the towel and accept mediocrity? I want to see Southampton up there with the greats before I die, so that I can watch the big matches from heaven.[/p][/quote]We must look at the big picture here. 1) The fact that Saints are 7 or 22 million in the red is not as bad as it sounds. In toda'y's pro game most professional clubs operate in the red on PAPER including some of the of big clubs in the PL. That does not stop them from spending big on signings as many times the entire fees for signings are not all paid in full up front. 2) Let's not forget that there is a substantial amount of prize money coming our way based on where we finish in the standings (I think mid table is in the range of about 60 million from articles I have seen). That has not been mentioned when the debt articles were written. 3) I think it is safe to say that Saints will be dealing Osvaldo in the summer and possibly even Gaston. Those two alone will bring in an additional 20 million minimum. 4) Best case scenario is that we keep ALL our stars, Shaw included, and have MP signed to a long term contract. But to be totally honest, if everyone else is kept and ONLY Shaw, Gaston and Dani were sold (netting around 50+M for the three), that would not be detrimental to the club, assuming that they re-invest that money, along with the additional prize money coming our way from the PL standings. This would amount to a sum of over 120M in summer income, well enough to wipe out the paper debt and with enough to spare for some very good signings. I may be wrong on the exact PL prize amount, but I don't think I'm too far off. 5) With regards to Shaw, as much as I would love for him to stay, sometimes it is wise to take a step back in order to move two steps forward. With that sort of budget from the three sales there are many big names we can sign. Chicago Saint
  • Score: 3

1:14pm Fri 18 Apr 14

batesieboy says...

Rooflas...you sound like you are the one with problems of size. (Never mind mate, apparently it's how you use it that counts, so you can comfort yourself with that thought.)
Rooflas...you sound like you are the one with problems of size. (Never mind mate, apparently it's how you use it that counts, so you can comfort yourself with that thought.) batesieboy
  • Score: 0

1:14pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
I think you're being a bit harsh.

Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it?
It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!!
I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained?
calling NC `titch` or `the small one` rather gives away your feelings towards him. I really think you are underestimating what NC has done for our club, ask fans of leeds, forest, qpr, sheff weds, Leicester, I could go on, and see if they think their club is really a prem club in every sense. so many clubs that are around our size have fallen out of the prem and despite new owners and promises of cash etc. have become financial disasters and are left in the champ and L1. we could have also ended up like leeds etc. yes some do get into the prem but then struggle without the real investment needed. NC took a failing L1 club and turned it into a mid-table prem team in just 4yrs. it meant he hard to make some really tough decisions, for which he took a lot of abuse, but he wasn't afraid to make them.
the debt you blame him for is nothing compared to most prem and some champs teams, qpr`s debt is huge! it is also very serviceable, prize money from the prem, tv money form sky and overseas and a change in the shirt sponsor will cover that debt and more.
I think we are a long way from thinking of prem survival next season and should be pushing for a top 6 place.
the academy will provide players for the team, it has done so for years, and there will be some players who wont make it to the first team. the players who are not going to be first team players will be the ones sold, with some of the older players who have come through who we will be able to replace with better/ younger players who are coming through. if we find another left back who is better than luke in 3/4 years then luke could be sold for a lot of money. that's how the academy will fund the club.
I want to trust the current board and from every statement they have put out I have no reason not to trust them. we were told by all of the media that KL had no interest in the club or in football, well I think she has been to every home game since NC left, and some away, I think she has a big emotional involvement with us and wants to respect her fathers wishes regarding the club. I also had full respect and trust for NC and think he is the main reason we got back to the prem as quickly as we have and without busting the bank.
to be able to make the step up we need to expand sms to around 40-45k, it wont be full for every game but the higher we can get up the prem the more fans will turn up. did chelski sell out the bridge before they started to get more successful? do villa sell out now they are on the slide.
How much would it cost to enlarge the ground? How long would it take to pay it off? After it's been paid off, how much extra revenue would it generate?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]I think you're being a bit harsh. Agreed under titch we were on the accendancy but it was like shooting tuna in a barrel. I'm only surprised he upset so many when we should have been rejoicing! We were a premier league club in every sense now we have levelled out, I think the small one would have struggled now. He has passed on debt or gone way over budget and we have wasted money on osvaldo who was signed under his watch. There's a good piece in the guardian, I don't think katharina wants to f11ck it all up, she has wisely surrounded herself with the right guys, she seeked out Krueger back when titch put his notice in. That's not the actions of some one without interest now is it? It's the end of season, not much to play for and a lot of it is paper talk which is full if squirrel sh1t!! I trust this board more than previous, yes we all want to improve on this season but more importantly I think is premier survival again. Every one bought into the accademy and using it to bring and eventually sell players from it, if we do we do. I think we are a long way off top 4 and it could cripple us getting there, I'm not hitting the chicken switch but can our improvement be financially sustained?[/p][/quote]calling NC `titch` or `the small one` rather gives away your feelings towards him. I really think you are underestimating what NC has done for our club, ask fans of leeds, forest, qpr, sheff weds, Leicester, I could go on, and see if they think their club is really a prem club in every sense. so many clubs that are around our size have fallen out of the prem and despite new owners and promises of cash etc. have become financial disasters and are left in the champ and L1. we could have also ended up like leeds etc. yes some do get into the prem but then struggle without the real investment needed. NC took a failing L1 club and turned it into a mid-table prem team in just 4yrs. it meant he hard to make some really tough decisions, for which he took a lot of abuse, but he wasn't afraid to make them. the debt you blame him for is nothing compared to most prem and some champs teams, qpr`s debt is huge! it is also very serviceable, prize money from the prem, tv money form sky and overseas and a change in the shirt sponsor will cover that debt and more. I think we are a long way from thinking of prem survival next season and should be pushing for a top 6 place. the academy will provide players for the team, it has done so for years, and there will be some players who wont make it to the first team. the players who are not going to be first team players will be the ones sold, with some of the older players who have come through who we will be able to replace with better/ younger players who are coming through. if we find another left back who is better than luke in 3/4 years then luke could be sold for a lot of money. that's how the academy will fund the club. I want to trust the current board and from every statement they have put out I have no reason not to trust them. we were told by all of the media that KL had no interest in the club or in football, well I think she has been to every home game since NC left, and some away, I think she has a big emotional involvement with us and wants to respect her fathers wishes regarding the club. I also had full respect and trust for NC and think he is the main reason we got back to the prem as quickly as we have and without busting the bank. to be able to make the step up we need to expand sms to around 40-45k, it wont be full for every game but the higher we can get up the prem the more fans will turn up. did chelski sell out the bridge before they started to get more successful? do villa sell out now they are on the slide.[/p][/quote]How much would it cost to enlarge the ground? How long would it take to pay it off? After it's been paid off, how much extra revenue would it generate? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:16pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list? Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

batesieboy wrote:
Rooflas...you sound like you are the one with problems of size. (Never mind mate, apparently it's how you use it that counts, so you can comfort yourself with that thought.)
Ha ha, I've got big tits though!
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: Rooflas...you sound like you are the one with problems of size. (Never mind mate, apparently it's how you use it that counts, so you can comfort yourself with that thought.)[/p][/quote]Ha ha, I've got big tits though! Rooflas
  • Score: 2

2:44pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

The bit that to me is of interest is that MoPo is talking about the Budget for 'NEXT SEASON' ......... Now that to me is a good sign ??????
The bit that to me is of interest is that MoPo is talking about the Budget for 'NEXT SEASON' ......... Now that to me is a good sign ?????? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

2:53pm Fri 18 Apr 14

willygetaway says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Intent is everything...were is it.
where is my phone call?/ you don,t write or call lol
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Intent is everything...were is it.[/p][/quote]where is my phone call?/ you don,t write or call lol willygetaway
  • Score: -1

3:12pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Just a thought, but if MP was to stop saying that he will discuss his contract in the summer and ask the board to sort it out now, he might have an inkling as to what the summer budget might be.

Everyone is castigating Krueger, for not getting MP to commit to the club, but if MP doesn't want to discuss it, then what do you guys suggest?

Ordering MP to attend a meeting, to discuss his contract, could be counter productive.
Also, letting MP know what our budget/plans are, before he has indicated that he wants to stay, could also be counter productive. Especially if he has already decided to move on and is only saying he will discuss his contract in the summer, to avoid unrest amongst the players, and dealing with the fans reaction at the next two home games.
If he moved on, he could take advantage of knowing, for example, what figure, for a certain player (if said player wanted to leave) the club would accept.

We are not privy to the goings on, behind closed doors, so we don't know for certain what efforts, if any, the board have made to get MP to the negotiation table.
What we do know is that MP is quite clear that he won't discuss his future, until the season has ended. And we know that because he has repeated it in almost every interview.
Just a thought, but if MP was to stop saying that he will discuss his contract in the summer and ask the board to sort it out now, he might have an inkling as to what the summer budget might be. Everyone is castigating Krueger, for not getting MP to commit to the club, but if MP doesn't want to discuss it, then what do you guys suggest? Ordering MP to attend a meeting, to discuss his contract, could be counter productive. Also, letting MP know what our budget/plans are, before he has indicated that he wants to stay, could also be counter productive. Especially if he has already decided to move on and is only saying he will discuss his contract in the summer, to avoid unrest amongst the players, and dealing with the fans reaction at the next two home games. If he moved on, he could take advantage of knowing, for example, what figure, for a certain player (if said player wanted to leave) the club would accept. We are not privy to the goings on, behind closed doors, so we don't know for certain what efforts, if any, the board have made to get MP to the negotiation table. What we do know is that MP is quite clear that he won't discuss his future, until the season has ended. And we know that because he has repeated it in almost every interview. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

4:38pm Fri 18 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid.
maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in.
how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium.
its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option.
our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?[/p][/quote]I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid. maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in. how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium. its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option. our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football). el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

5:10pm Fri 18 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid.
maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in.
how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium.
its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option.
our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).
The only I prob would be , we wouldn't sell out for every game
Only 4 or 5 games a season would sell out
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?[/p][/quote]I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid. maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in. how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium. its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option. our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).[/p][/quote]The only I prob would be , we wouldn't sell out for every game Only 4 or 5 games a season would sell out bullsbags
  • Score: 0

5:20pm Fri 18 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
Ralph can't do a lot about it today as he is cycling to Aston Villa, we will have to continue to wait.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]Ralph can't do a lot about it today as he is cycling to Aston Villa, we will have to continue to wait. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Fri 18 Apr 14

peregrine73 says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.
We wasted big money on Osvaldo and Ramirez and need to invest more wisely to move forward next season.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Poch, have you checked Evertons budget? I wouldn't describe them as big spenders. Surely the target is to emulate them next season, aim for fourth, see where it takes us.[/p][/quote]We wasted big money on Osvaldo and Ramirez and need to invest more wisely to move forward next season. peregrine73
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Fri 18 Apr 14

F Fan says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid.
maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in.
how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium.
its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option.
our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).
Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium..
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?[/p][/quote]I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid. maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in. how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium. its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option. our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).[/p][/quote]Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium.. F Fan
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

F Fan wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid.
maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in.
how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium.
its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option.
our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).
Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium..
Agree, el caba why comment without full facts?
In Krueger interview he is also aware we need to sell the club commercially, another thing titch failed to do.
[quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?[/p][/quote]I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid. maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in. how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium. its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option. our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).[/p][/quote]Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium..[/p][/quote]Agree, el caba why comment without full facts? In Krueger interview he is also aware we need to sell the club commercially, another thing titch failed to do. Rooflas
  • Score: 0

7:42pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I'm not sure what 'selling the club commercially' really means? Those that have expanded their merchandising internationally to any significance have done it on the back of winning things. I think you have to invest and create the success first - then you exploit the opportunities that arise due to having a much higher profile.
I'm not sure what 'selling the club commercially' really means? Those that have expanded their merchandising internationally to any significance have done it on the back of winning things. I think you have to invest and create the success first - then you exploit the opportunities that arise due to having a much higher profile. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

7:47pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one.
An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

7:58pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

What no war chest then you better sale mush then!
What no war chest then you better sale mush then! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -3

10:04pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one.
Do you think we would fill a bigger stadium? Being serious and this is very very delicate, but going with the head rather than heart ( I can't believe what I'm about to suggest) it would be a good idea financially to put a new stadium east side of the city, the park and ride at bursledon and try and attract those in fareham and such areas. Pinch the fair weather Pompey fans. Motorway and train stations are local but maybe not pubs.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one.[/p][/quote]Do you think we would fill a bigger stadium? Being serious and this is very very delicate, but going with the head rather than heart ( I can't believe what I'm about to suggest) it would be a good idea financially to put a new stadium east side of the city, the park and ride at bursledon and try and attract those in fareham and such areas. Pinch the fair weather Pompey fans. Motorway and train stations are local but maybe not pubs. Rooflas
  • Score: -2

10:52pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Rooflas wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one.
Do you think we would fill a bigger stadium? Being serious and this is very very delicate, but going with the head rather than heart ( I can't believe what I'm about to suggest) it would be a good idea financially to put a new stadium east side of the city, the park and ride at bursledon and try and attract those in fareham and such areas. Pinch the fair weather Pompey fans. Motorway and train stations are local but maybe not pubs.
If it's developed where it is they need to open the station on site and have trains from all the surrounding stations where people live or can park. A new one would surely be at Stoneham or next to The Ageas Bowl with a new motorway junction which has been talked about.

Can we fill it? That depends on how well we do on the pitch!

Firstly let's see what appetite the new directors have for moving the club forward.
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: An expanded stadium would be good and the rumours were that NC, or 'titch' as he seems to now be know as, was looking for a new site. New build is usually cheaper than extension and massive alteration. I like to have a few beers before and after the game so the traffic is not an issue to me. But I know several 'new' fans who have brought their kids along - at the demand of the kids - and they moan like mad about getting to and from St Mary's. But those in town like the fact they can walk or get the bus so it's a hard one.[/p][/quote]Do you think we would fill a bigger stadium? Being serious and this is very very delicate, but going with the head rather than heart ( I can't believe what I'm about to suggest) it would be a good idea financially to put a new stadium east side of the city, the park and ride at bursledon and try and attract those in fareham and such areas. Pinch the fair weather Pompey fans. Motorway and train stations are local but maybe not pubs.[/p][/quote]If it's developed where it is they need to open the station on site and have trains from all the surrounding stations where people live or can park. A new one would surely be at Stoneham or next to The Ageas Bowl with a new motorway junction which has been talked about. Can we fill it? That depends on how well we do on the pitch! Firstly let's see what appetite the new directors have for moving the club forward. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

11:11pm Fri 18 Apr 14

milton road says...

I know a lot of people do not like the Guardian but there was a very good interview from our chairman saying no player needs to be sold and seemed positive and upbeat.
As for Osvaldo he has been playing crap at Juventus and it is not likely they will buy him or anyone else.
Its not a surprise that Poch does not know the budget as he is the one who has refused to talk about anything until the end of the season.
In the last 28 games last season under Adkins and Poch we picked up 37 points.
In the last 24 games we have picked up 30 so other than the first ten games there has been no real improvement on last season and we may well struggle to equal the 37 points in 28 at the end of last season.
The squad certainly lacks depth and we certainly need a plan B because we get caught on the break time and again. So whilst it has been a good season it is one that has fallen away quite markedly in recent months.
I know a lot of people do not like the Guardian but there was a very good interview from our chairman saying no player needs to be sold and seemed positive and upbeat. As for Osvaldo he has been playing crap at Juventus and it is not likely they will buy him or anyone else. Its not a surprise that Poch does not know the budget as he is the one who has refused to talk about anything until the end of the season. In the last 28 games last season under Adkins and Poch we picked up 37 points. In the last 24 games we have picked up 30 so other than the first ten games there has been no real improvement on last season and we may well struggle to equal the 37 points in 28 at the end of last season. The squad certainly lacks depth and we certainly need a plan B because we get caught on the break time and again. So whilst it has been a good season it is one that has fallen away quite markedly in recent months. milton road
  • Score: 1

11:11pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Saint TGB says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
I agree with you, Seed. In order to make such decisions, Poch needs to know all the intentions of the Board, albeit that some will be conditional on future sponsorship and transfer income.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]I agree with you, Seed. In order to make such decisions, Poch needs to know all the intentions of the Board, albeit that some will be conditional on future sponsorship and transfer income. Saint TGB
  • Score: 0

9:09am Sat 19 Apr 14

ctsaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business .

The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business.

It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered.

I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point).

It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future .

Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years.

The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider.....
The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29

If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that.

3 points today would be nice ! COYR
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business . The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business. It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered. I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point). It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future . Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years. The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider..... The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29 If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that. 3 points today would be nice ! COYR ctsaint
  • Score: 3

10:33am Sat 19 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ctsaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business .

The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business.

It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered.

I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point).

It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future .

Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years.

The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider.....
The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29

If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that.

3 points today would be nice ! COYR
I agree with you ctsaint. But my point was not about announcing how much we intent to spend it was about NOT saying our financial position is 'awkward' and 'difficult' which could lead to more approaches than otherwise would have been the case.

The point is these youngsters also want success as well as the money. It is they who are calling on the board to strengthen the team, at least five to date. Keeping the manager and team together will require some important signings.
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business . The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business. It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered. I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point). It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future . Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years. The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider..... The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29 If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that. 3 points today would be nice ! COYR[/p][/quote]I agree with you ctsaint. But my point was not about announcing how much we intent to spend it was about NOT saying our financial position is 'awkward' and 'difficult' which could lead to more approaches than otherwise would have been the case. The point is these youngsters also want success as well as the money. It is they who are calling on the board to strengthen the team, at least five to date. Keeping the manager and team together will require some important signings. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

11:06am Sat 19 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches.

MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed.

This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash!

I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here.

I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.
If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business .

The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business.

It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered.

I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point).

It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future .

Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years.

The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider.....
The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29

If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that.

3 points today would be nice ! COYR
I agree with you ctsaint. But my point was not about announcing how much we intent to spend it was about NOT saying our financial position is 'awkward' and 'difficult' which could lead to more approaches than otherwise would have been the case.

The point is these youngsters also want success as well as the money. It is they who are calling on the board to strengthen the team, at least five to date. Keeping the manager and team together will require some important signings.
I also agree with most of ctsaints comments with one exception. arsenil and diverpool aren't well known for nurturing and bringing through their own youth players. arsenil just look to our academy, amongst others, I can only think of Wilshire as an arsenil product, I thought gibbs was but he started at Wimbledon. similar thing at diverpool, gerrard is a product of the club as is Flanagan and that's about it.
I agree with the sentiment but I don't think diverpool would be in the position they are without suarez, and arsenil have spent a small fortune on Mesut Özil in an attempt to challenge, the players celebrated finishing fourth last season like they had won the league!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: And here we have it. Ralph the motivational speaker wants to listen to his own speeches. MoPo was brought here to deliver a vision, we all knew what that vision was. Our then chairman, although a bit of a git, made it clear to other clubs our players were going no where and made it clear to us all where we were headed. This bloke pitches up, makes a speech about our financial situation being 'awkward' and 'difficult' which sends all the wrong signals to our competitors and effectively encourages them to put in bids for our players in the belief we need the cash! I've said all along MoPo won't commit to a new contract until he knows what the clubs ambitions now are - and who can blame him? The club need to sort it out so they can sign him up for 4 or 5 years and he can then persuade the players their future remains here. I know I'll get crucified for this (see what I did there?) but Ralph is in danger of wrecking everything that has been so painstakingly achieved over the last five years.[/p][/quote]If I turned up at a football club I would NOT let the world know we have pots of cash to spend , I certainly wouldn't publicise my budget or how wealthy the shareholders are, I would go quietly and professionally about my business . The owner and her newly selected and appointed board have clearly stated that the club needs to operate on a sustainable model, expenditure must be matched by income, that doesn't mean there won't be any investment, it does mean investment will be sensible and tied to revenues. We know by thconservative nature of the Liebhers that even though they could leverage the revenue , take a risk and under pin the safety of the club with their personal wealth , that this isn't their way of doing business. It's obviously not what many fans want to hear, it's also not as exciting as a Russian Oligarch or Saudi Oil Sheihk owning the club and playing the "I've got a bigger one than you" game with their wallets, however with FFP coming into play even those days are numbered. I believe Saints should model themselves on Arsenal and now Liverpool , build from within, nurture youth, create a real team, a club with a club feel to it founded on players who have grown within the club and augmented by a fees signings that fit the mould. Liverpool are a team, not a collection of expensively assembled , extremely talented individuals , they do have some of those and Suarez whilst a huge success this season has had a troubled and checkered history with the club.....could Osvaldo be our Suarez? (I doubt it , but it serves to illustrate my point). It's imperative we keep MOPO , and that will depend on keeping our you goungsters together and if say Shaw is sold , being given the funds to keep growing, progressing and building the future . Getting from league one to where we are has taken 5 years. The saints project should take another 5 years to develop and require similar cash to the previous 5 years, not much more when you consider..... The academy will keep producing, Lala will be the oldest at 29 in 5 years time.... Luke will only be 23, chambers, Clyne, ward-prowse, jay Rod, Gaston all will still be at or under their prime 27/29 If we do sell anyone because THEY want to go for financial reasons then Our only hope can be that we get the right money and spend it wisely. MOPO will know that the club can't say NO to every offer and that players will eventually be priced out of our purse, the assurance he will seek (I don't know this but I do know his history and that he is young,very intelligent , sensibly building a career ) is that he is allowed to re invest and that his youngsters won't just keep getting sold (like Espanyol). I don't see us needing to do that or the board wanting to do that. 3 points today would be nice ! COYR[/p][/quote]I agree with you ctsaint. But my point was not about announcing how much we intent to spend it was about NOT saying our financial position is 'awkward' and 'difficult' which could lead to more approaches than otherwise would have been the case. The point is these youngsters also want success as well as the money. It is they who are calling on the board to strengthen the team, at least five to date. Keeping the manager and team together will require some important signings.[/p][/quote]I also agree with most of ctsaints comments with one exception. arsenil and diverpool aren't well known for nurturing and bringing through their own youth players. arsenil just look to our academy, amongst others, I can only think of Wilshire as an arsenil product, I thought gibbs was but he started at Wimbledon. similar thing at diverpool, gerrard is a product of the club as is Flanagan and that's about it. I agree with the sentiment but I don't think diverpool would be in the position they are without suarez, and arsenil have spent a small fortune on Mesut Özil in an attempt to challenge, the players celebrated finishing fourth last season like they had won the league! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

11:50am Sat 19 Apr 14

Poole Tom says...

Rooflas wrote:
F Fan wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?
I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid.
maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in.
how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium.
its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option.
our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).
Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium..
Agree, el caba why comment without full facts?
In Krueger interview he is also aware we need to sell the club commercially, another thing titch failed to do.
About 10 years ago when Lowe was still in charge his number two said at one of the shareholders meetings that it would cost approximately £3000 per seat to increase the capacity of the stadium. On that basis it would cost 39 million to increase the capacity to 45,000 and that`s assuming that the cost has not increased since then which I`m sure you will agree is highly unlikely.
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: And finally, how high would it be on our priority list?[/p][/quote]I really don't know how much it would cost. lets say for example that it would cost £15mill to go to 45k and the average ticket was £30. we would have 13k extra £30`s for each game, if we sold out, so over a season of 19 prem games that would add £7.4mill. so 2 years and it would be paid. maths isn't my strong point though and of course these are figure I plucked out of the air, but it gives an example of how much the extra 13k would bring in. how high a priority it is? again I don't know, but as I said if we want to compete with the spuds and evertons of the prem we need to increase the stadium. its the board who will know the real figures regarding any expansion and its up to them if they think its a viable option. our catchment area is huge though and with the demise of the few there will be more kids from that area wanting to see prem football (or any decent football).[/p][/quote]Half of our catchment area is water. Long way yet from justifying a larger stadium..[/p][/quote]Agree, el caba why comment without full facts? In Krueger interview he is also aware we need to sell the club commercially, another thing titch failed to do.[/p][/quote]About 10 years ago when Lowe was still in charge his number two said at one of the shareholders meetings that it would cost approximately £3000 per seat to increase the capacity of the stadium. On that basis it would cost 39 million to increase the capacity to 45,000 and that`s assuming that the cost has not increased since then which I`m sure you will agree is highly unlikely. Poole Tom
  • Score: 0

9:55pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Why on earth would we need a 45k capacity stadium ? Even going well these past few seasons we struggle to fill SMS as it is and then only when the Top 4 come to town bringing a few thousand with them.

The South Coast just isn't a football hotbed, we are restricted by location as to how many additional supporters we can get from up the M3 or A34. Every South Coast team has experienced massive financial problems from Brighton across to Bournemouth in the last decade and let's face it if it hadn't been for a kindly Swiss Billionaire we would have been right up the swanny.it certainly wasn't the local population coming to the clubs aid when we were in peril.
Why on earth would we need a 45k capacity stadium ? Even going well these past few seasons we struggle to fill SMS as it is and then only when the Top 4 come to town bringing a few thousand with them. The South Coast just isn't a football hotbed, we are restricted by location as to how many additional supporters we can get from up the M3 or A34. Every South Coast team has experienced massive financial problems from Brighton across to Bournemouth in the last decade and let's face it if it hadn't been for a kindly Swiss Billionaire we would have been right up the swanny.it certainly wasn't the local population coming to the clubs aid when we were in peril. Freddie Flowerpot
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