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    MerseyMart wrote:
    I know that we go round in circles with these arguments but one matter that has not really been discussed is the grounds for Southampton's objection to the landing stage at Liverpool.

    Soton would have a case if it could prove that Liverpool had been given a commercial advantage by the investment of public money in its landing stage. If that were the case, then what is that advantage?

    The whole thrust of Keith Hamilton's argument is that Liverpool has got for free what other ports, including Southampton have to pay for using private money. So what is the equivalent facility at Soton to the floating landing stage at Liverpool and how much did it cost?
    Soton has 4 cruise terminals which cost between £40- £50m to provide

    Perhaps it may be worthwhile imagining this scenario
    A vehicle manufacturing company obtains a significant UK/EC grant to build a new commercial vehicle factory at Gosport (nr Soton) which is a pretty deprived town due to Navy downsizing.
    The terms are quite specific, commercial vehicle manufacturing only.
    However 2 years down the line the owners decide that the return on commercial vehicles is not too clever so they declare an interest in manufacturing SUV's
    The owners say that they will only produce about 3% of the Uk's SUV's and support their argument by saying that the markey for SUV's is high in the 'prosperous south!!!' and Gosport is right next door to the port of soton where most of the UK produced SUV's go from, so meeting internal demand and saving Co2 etc etc.
    I presume in such a circumstance the workers at Land Rover in Halewood would merely say 'fair enough no problems with competition you deserve your grant money we will just soldier on and hope that Tata will continue to support us.
    oh and by the way after Tata make a fuss the owners of the new SUV factory in Gosport reluctantly agree to pay back part of the grant but on the basis of an unspecified amount per car produced"
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Cunard quashes rumours of transatlantic cruises from Liverpool

Cunard quashes rumours of transatlantic cruises from Liverpool

Queen Mary 2

Queen Mary 2

First published in Business Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Shipping & Heritage Reporter

Southampton-based Cunard has categorically denied new reports that the company is to operate transatlantic voyages from the Mersey.

Cunard, which operates Queen Mary 2, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria from Southampton, is angry over what it says is totally false information.

In a terse statement the company said: “Cunard Line would like to clarify that they have no plans for transatlantic voyages from Liverpool to New York in 2012, 2013 or in the future.

“Cunard will continue to operate its successful transatlantic voyages from its home port of Southampton.’’

Many believe the reports are just another element of Liverpool’s campaign to persuade the Government that the northern port should be allowed to become a “turn-around’’ base for cruise ships.

It is now also being claimed in Liverpool this long-standing row has been “resolved’’, opening the way for cruise ships to operate from the city.

In fact the Government has made no decision and the EU, which supplied part of the public funding, is also taking a close look at Liverpool’s plans.

The long running wrangle centres around Liverpool’s attempts to use a multi-million pound handout of public money to develop and expand dockside facilities.

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Southampton and other UK docks, which rely purely on private investment, are demanding Liverpool pay back all of the public funding so competition between the ports is on a “level playing field’’.

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